Always learning...at the end of the video we share a take away Landon told us that he learned from his dad about whitetail deer and then ducking in certain positions vs others.
I'm guessing the reasoning behind the advice of not to shoot when their head is down is because the animal is in it's most vulnerable position at that time so they're naturally more prone to a super quick reflex reaction? That makes sense to me. That buck moved FAST.
This is one of the many lessons my father had taught to me, that not every hunt is successful, but enjoying your time in nature and the experience is what it's all about! Hope yall smoke a big one next time around!
Poor penetration and still shooting mech heads? Y'all should have gotten with Ranch Fairy down in TX. THP is on the high FOC, single bevel or COC train now as well, so they probably can help out some.
Thank for sharing the hunt. The head down thing is real for sure because for a deer to duck, it must first lower its head. If its head is already lowered, its already got a jump on the duck. I stalked within 60 yards of a feeding axis doe about 2 months ago, set up my video cam, pulled back and let er fly. The arrow was perfectly on target but with her head down feeding, she was already ducking within a split second of the shot. By the time the arrow reaches her, she is tucking her butt under with the arrow passing just behind her butt. I have never see a deer react so fast to get out of the way of an arrow. I'm shooting a 440 gran arrow at 290'/sec. That's some quick reaction time.
There are a few good vids from multiple spurces abut deer ducking more when their head is down compared to at alert. I appreciate all the fail vids even more than the ones who act like it never happens to them.
A lot of guys would just blame the whole thing on the deer jumping the string, a lot of respect for Eric admitting is was a marginal shot to begin with. Great video guys!
I shot a mule deer same place. Saw him 2 weeks later in an alfalfa field like nothing happened. The will to survive is pretty amazing, gotta give them kudos
Scariest segment was the chair breaking, almost! My heart sank when that buck dropped, much like yours did I’m sure. That would take some serious discipline to aim lower just in anticipation of him dropping like that at the very last moment before impact. Excellent footage and good take away as always. Invaluable. Looking forward to many more episodes.
I enjoy seeing you guys hunt all these different animals. I do not get the chance to hunt all that much these days. I hope that will change as my little one gets older. I need to be a daddy first. Can we get a tour of the place the Casey works out of? Also can you guys do a video talking about your favorite animals that you have taken since you all have started working with one and other?
This series was fun to watch! So happy to see that both of you were able to harvest a buck that’s so awesome! Man I’m sorry you weren’t able to find your buck Eric. can’t wait for the season to start it’s going to be epic! Awesome video!
My dad has that happen with a whitetail he shot and the buck ducked and the arrow shot clean right over him. On the bright side I guys are going hone with 2 beautiful bucks! Good job guys
Dr. Grant Woods on Growing Deer TV did a segment on ducking deer and he has footage of deer ducking with their head down against deer ducking with their head up. It was actually pretty impressive 👍
Insane how much they drop like the most spooky eastern whitetail. Awesome video and content as always guys! Always love the videos keep up the amazing work!
What stabilizer are you using in the blind? Sorry to bother with this as I’m sure you get a LOT of gear questions... I’m looking for something low pro that can be offset
Definitely sux but u would be amazed what those axis deer survive from. Wrkd at my uncles wild game processing shop near there (NW of San Antonio) n we would find old wounds, whole arrows, etc inside n scarred over in those deer. Definitely a hearty animal. Sorry for ur loss though,.
Never shoot when their head is down.... heard that all my life. I tried it last yr at 12 yds and the doe completely ducked my arrow... the still frame shows the arrow about 3inches over her back and her chest almost on the ground.
Get on the FOC band wagon for more penetration. It will even make your bow more quite at the release. It is amazing how much difference it makes. Yes you lose speed but if you can’t penetrate what good does that do. You owe it to the animal.
having been born and raised in Texas, I would add a caveat to Brian's comment about the opportunity to hunt. That is IF you own land to hunt on. 99+% of land in Texas is private land. No access = no hunting.
This is true, if you don’t own land you can find some great places to hunt. Now that we have visited a few states like that we sure enjoy our public lands.
To the ranch fairy is going to hit the roof if he see,s this Using lite arrows should be illegal. It sounded like a dry fire, no wonder it moved so much.
@hushin you should check out growing deer tv on youtube episode 462 i beleive. Dr. Woods done a video on deer dropping out of the way of an arrow. He talks about when the head is down vs. up. He done an excellent job and has hopefully helped a lot of hunters be more successful. it sucks to wound an animal and not know whether it survived or died. been there and know the feeling. yall do a great job representing the hunters. keep up the great videos.
Come OFF those mechanicals guys! Though they fly like field points, they are sooooooo notorious for LACK of penetration on marginal or hard quarterin shots! Had that had been a cut on contact you would have most likely cut the spine or atleast the femoral artery and that Buck would have been goin home witcha. Trust me I've shot atleast half a dozen different mechanicals and had success with them but BY FAR I have had MORE consistent success with Cut on contacts!
@@gethushin Unfortunately nothing recent only 3 kills on a 15 yr old camera, but this comin up season I have a two of my huntin buds that just bought 2 Camera's from that came from Cambell Cameras in Illinios so hopefully we will be gettin some kills on vidja this year. Over the last 20 yrs, I'm 57 yrs young by the way I've shot Wasp Jack hammers, Rage, Killzone and a few others with a fair amount of success out of my Mathews Drenalin. About 6 or 7 years ago I went back Cut on Contacts after not recovering the only 2 Deer I ever lost due to mechanical broadhead failure and havent lost a single Deer since. I shoot a 300 spine arrow with 100 grain Brass inserts, and a 125 grain Magnus Black Hornet Serazor, or a 125 grain G-5 Blazer and sometimes tip'em with a 150 grain Valkarie. I'm here to tell you what you loose in speed you GAIN in PENETRATING DEVASTATION on a Deer! I even lowered the poundage of my bow from 70lbs to 65 lbs and have BLOWN THROUGH both shoulders on Whitetails and Hogs believe it or not! I got the Idea from a guy in Texas called The Ranch Fairy! He has a You tube channel that you should check out on Forward Of Center (FOC) setups that will completely change yer thinkin on Huntin Arrows and Bow Set ups. I wouldn't believe it myself til I started watchin and tryin fer myself. He and Dr. Ashbery have both done extensive research on this and are slowly changin the way Archers Hunt. We, myself included always wanted speed and high poundage and lighter arrows and thought that's what you needed to be successful. They concentrate on what the arrow does once it hits the animal and thier results are INCREDIBLE! Check him out and you will be as Shocked and Happy as I was once you see what your set up does even on Elk and Moose size game! Theres a vidja of a lady shootin a 45 lb bow at an Asiatic Water Buffalo with a FRONTAL SHOT and she kills it DEAD with the arrow completely passing into the hind quarter after entering the Bull between the front shoulder and the brisket!!! My total arrow weight is about 575 to 600 grains. By the way Love the Hushin channel, EC Outside, and havent missed any episodes ya'all's content and footage is always nothin short of AMAZING!! Keep them vidja's comin guy's!!
I don't know if the outcome would have been any different with a fixed blade. Don't get me wrong, I shoot heavy fixed blades and think that it is the way to go, but IMO that impact was just too high no matter which broadhead was on the arrow. Definitely no chance of hitting a femoral artery. The closest artery would have been the abdominal or thoracic aorta, which would kill him real quick, but the aorta sits just under the spinal column, and it looks like the arrow impacted just above it. There is a chance that the arrow hit a part of the spinal vertebrae called the spinus process and bounced off because it is a pretty solid bone. Maybe an arrow with better penetration and momentum could have punched into that and at least stunned him, but still probably would have missed the actual spine because it runs under the spinus process.
Looks like you hit no mans land. Just above the lungs but below the spine. The fact that you didn't punch through tells me you need a heavier arrow/broadhead setup. Lose some speed but punch through and the lower speed often makes the bow a bit quieter.
Quick question here: I`m not familiar with the laws in Texas (or the US for that matter), but arent you bound by law to persue and kill an animal that has been wounded? The hunting laws where i`m from strictly states that the hunt is not over until the animal has been found and taken care of (either put down or found dead). You are even allowed to enter someone elses land (you should notify them ofc.) to persue an injured animal. If you after a certain ammount of time cant find the injured animal yourself, the "case" i sent over to the state and or Police depending on what type of game you injured. (different ways to handle predatory game (Bears, lynx etc.) Anyways, good luck on the next hunts and lets hope the land owner (or anyone) finds the injured deer.
I really hope an effort was made to find that deer and if not kill it at least make sure it was gonna be ok if injured and not just die somewhere. The video was good and this could happen to anyone of course I’m just not sure what one would do in this situation
this is why i never let bow hunters on my ranch..... regardless of how good they think they are the lost animals they have to pay for always pizzes them off,,, but it's an economic loser for the ranch owner.... you want to bow hunt buy your f....... ranch
Always learning...at the end of the video we share a take away Landon told us that he learned from his dad about whitetail deer and then ducking in certain positions vs others.
Lol😂😂I want to see Eric get scared more often flippin hilarious lol 🤣🤣
I'm guessing the reasoning behind the advice of not to shoot when their head is down is because the animal is in it's most vulnerable position at that time so they're naturally more prone to a super quick reflex reaction? That makes sense to me. That buck moved FAST.
This is one of the many lessons my father had taught to me, that not every hunt is successful, but enjoying your time in nature and the experience is what it's all about! Hope yall smoke a big one next time around!
Growing deer TV did a really good episode on that proving that they react five times as much as they do with their head up
Poor penetration and still shooting mech heads? Y'all should have gotten with Ranch Fairy down in TX. THP is on the high FOC, single bevel or COC train now as well, so they probably can help out some.
And not to only sound negative, I've really enjoyed the hunts and the content overall the last few years. Keep up the good work, guys!
You beat me to this comment
Time for adult arrows
I must agree... at least watch the ranch fairy and consider it
that's why B macs shot got a pass through. I believe he said in the archery setup vid he was running heavier.
Thank for sharing the hunt. The head down thing is real for sure because for a deer to duck, it must first lower its head. If its head is already lowered, its already got a jump on the duck. I stalked within 60 yards of a feeding axis doe about 2 months ago, set up my video cam, pulled back and let er fly. The arrow was perfectly on target but with her head down feeding, she was already ducking within a split second of the shot. By the time the arrow reaches her, she is tucking her butt under with the arrow passing just behind her butt. I have never see a deer react so fast to get out of the way of an arrow. I'm shooting a 440 gran arrow at 290'/sec. That's some quick reaction time.
There are a few good vids from multiple spurces abut deer ducking more when their head is down compared to at alert. I appreciate all the fail vids even more than the ones who act like it never happens to them.
A lot of guys would just blame the whole thing on the deer jumping the string, a lot of respect for Eric admitting is was a marginal shot to begin with. Great video guys!
I shot a mule deer same place. Saw him 2 weeks later in an alfalfa field like nothing happened. The will to survive is pretty amazing, gotta give them kudos
Scariest segment was the chair breaking, almost! My heart sank when that buck dropped, much like yours did I’m sure. That would take some serious discipline to aim lower just in anticipation of him dropping like that at the very last moment before impact. Excellent footage and good take away as always. Invaluable. Looking forward to many more episodes.
Thanks for watching! That chair was sketchy.
I enjoy seeing you guys hunt all these different animals. I do not get the chance to hunt all that much these days. I hope that will change as my little one gets older. I need to be a daddy first. Can we get a tour of the place the Casey works out of? Also can you guys do a video talking about your favorite animals that you have taken since you all have started working with one and other?
Yeah that could make some cool content. Thanks for the tip
This series was fun to watch! So happy to see that both of you were able to harvest a buck that’s so awesome! Man I’m sorry you weren’t able to find your buck Eric. can’t wait for the season to start it’s going to be epic! Awesome video!
Gonna keep shooting expandables? That buck dropped a ton. Crazy to see.
Need some plan B arrows!!
Ranch Fairy time with adult arrows
7:15 best part of the whole video. Cheap chairs. Broken more then one myself.
My dad has that happen with a whitetail he shot and the buck ducked and the arrow shot clean right over him. On the bright side I guys are going hone with 2 beautiful bucks! Good job guys
Yes we did, and two coolers full of meat.
Love the vids keep it up
Time for Eric to jump on the high FOC bandwagon.
And get rid of the mechanical heads!
Plan B arrows and adult broadheads
B Mack went heavier this season and he got a pass through in the previous video.
Just saying.
What outfitter did you go with we are looking to go next winter
Time for some adult arrows and time with the Ranch a Fairy and The Ashby Foundation.
Love the vids..you guys need to get to Hawaii..let’s hunt
Dr. Grant Woods on Growing Deer TV did a segment on ducking deer and he has footage of deer ducking with their head down against deer ducking with their head up. It was actually pretty impressive 👍
This is exactly right. Dr. Woods is in the know.
Great channel to watch, even for a public land hunter like myself. A few of his videos definitely changed my perspective on the importance of speed.
Insane how much they drop like the most spooky eastern whitetail. Awesome video and content as always guys! Always love the videos keep up the amazing work!
Amazing, boom, well done fellas ....
What stabilizer are you using in the blind? Sorry to bother with this as I’m sure you get a LOT of gear questions... I’m looking for something low pro that can be offset
Definitely sux but u would be amazed what those axis deer survive from. Wrkd at my uncles wild game processing shop near there (NW of San Antonio) n we would find old wounds, whole arrows, etc inside n scarred over in those deer. Definitely a hearty animal. Sorry for ur loss though,.
Never shoot when their head is down.... heard that all my life. I tried it last yr at 12 yds and the doe completely ducked my arrow... the still frame shows the arrow about 3inches over her back and her chest almost on the ground.
Tough break man! That's hunting though. Still an awesome trip! Thanks for filming!
First time I've ever seen a guy tracking deer in flip flops.
He’s crazy! Did you see all the cactus 🌵
What was the reason for the low penetration, and I see a lot of people talking about ‘adult arrows’ what’s that? I don’t know anything about archery 😂
You taught us all a lesson man! Most know to aim low but you taught us to aim even lower. Thank you!
And at 27 yards wow!
Siri shut up im tracking a big ol'e buck haha 😄
Freakin Siri 😂
With those big boys I like to aim for the bottom of the heart to bad that was a really good buck
Get on the FOC band wagon for more penetration. It will even make your bow more quite at the release. It is amazing how much difference it makes. Yes you lose speed but if you can’t penetrate what good does that do. You owe it to the animal.
Thanks for sharing. Great video.
Love yalls videos keep up the great work
Where in Texas is this?
Outside of San Antonio
Ranch Fairy Ranch Fairy Ranch Fairy...
Need to go to fixed blade heads. You will have a tough time on elk with those heads this fall. Sorry you lost your stag.
Gonna shoot the slick trick 4 blades again this year, I use them every year in Idaho.
having been born and raised in Texas, I would add a caveat to Brian's comment about the opportunity to hunt. That is IF you own land to hunt on. 99+% of land in Texas is private land. No access = no hunting.
This is true, if you don’t own land you can find some great places to hunt. Now that we have visited a few states like that we sure enjoy our public lands.
Love the vids and keep up the good work
To the ranch fairy is going to hit the roof if he see,s this
Using lite arrows should be illegal. It sounded like a dry fire, no wonder it moved so much.
Dude my phone turns on Siri all the time and it scared the crap out of me😂
Make sure their head is up. They wont drop hardly any once the head is up
Archery spot and stalk north western SD mule deer and whitetails sept 1st opening day
Love the vids thanks for the content
I am not a hunter.
Does a more powerful bow could make a difference, and killed the dear?
When are y’all going to invite to tag along? Great content gentlemen keep it up!
Bummer on that last buck you couldn’t find
I think the buck will be just fine.
@hushin you should check out growing deer tv on youtube episode 462 i beleive. Dr. Woods done a video on deer dropping out of the way of an arrow. He talks about when the head is down vs. up. He done an excellent job and has hopefully helped a lot of hunters be more successful. it sucks to wound an animal and not know whether it survived or died. been there and know the feeling. yall do a great job representing the hunters. keep up the great videos.
Come OFF those mechanicals guys! Though they fly like field points, they are sooooooo notorious for LACK of penetration on marginal or hard quarterin shots! Had that had been a cut on contact you would have most likely cut the spine or atleast the femoral artery and that Buck would have been goin home witcha. Trust me I've shot atleast half a dozen different mechanicals and had success with them but BY FAR I have had MORE consistent success with Cut on contacts!
Might have to. Do you have any videos and kill shots of your setup you can share with us? Would love to see them in action.
@@gethushin Unfortunately nothing recent only 3 kills on a 15 yr old camera, but this comin up season I have a two of my huntin buds that just bought 2 Camera's from that came from Cambell Cameras in Illinios so hopefully we will be gettin some kills on vidja this year. Over the last 20 yrs, I'm 57 yrs young by the way I've shot Wasp Jack hammers, Rage, Killzone and a few others with a fair amount of success out of my Mathews Drenalin. About 6 or 7 years ago I went back Cut on Contacts after not recovering the only 2 Deer I ever lost due to mechanical broadhead failure and havent lost a single Deer since. I shoot a 300 spine arrow with 100 grain Brass inserts, and a 125 grain Magnus Black Hornet Serazor, or a 125 grain G-5 Blazer and sometimes tip'em with a 150 grain Valkarie. I'm here to tell you what you loose in speed you GAIN in PENETRATING DEVASTATION on a Deer! I even lowered the poundage of my bow from 70lbs to 65 lbs and have BLOWN THROUGH both shoulders on Whitetails and Hogs believe it or not! I got the Idea from a guy in Texas called The Ranch Fairy! He has a You tube channel that you should check out on Forward Of Center (FOC) setups that will completely change yer thinkin on Huntin Arrows and Bow Set ups. I wouldn't believe it myself til I started watchin and tryin fer myself. He and Dr. Ashbery have both done extensive research on this and are slowly changin the way Archers Hunt. We, myself included always wanted speed and high poundage and lighter arrows and thought that's what you needed to be successful. They concentrate on what the arrow does once it hits the animal and thier results are INCREDIBLE! Check him out and you will be as Shocked and Happy as I was once you see what your set up does even on Elk and Moose size game! Theres a vidja of a lady shootin a 45 lb bow at an Asiatic Water Buffalo with a FRONTAL SHOT and she kills it DEAD with the arrow completely passing into the hind quarter after entering the Bull between the front shoulder and the brisket!!! My total arrow weight is about 575 to 600 grains. By the way Love the Hushin channel, EC Outside, and havent missed any episodes ya'all's content and footage is always nothin short of AMAZING!! Keep them vidja's comin guy's!!
I don't know if the outcome would have been any different with a fixed blade. Don't get me wrong, I shoot heavy fixed blades and think that it is the way to go, but IMO that impact was just too high no matter which broadhead was on the arrow. Definitely no chance of hitting a femoral artery. The closest artery would have been the abdominal or thoracic aorta, which would kill him real quick, but the aorta sits just under the spinal column, and it looks like the arrow impacted just above it. There is a chance that the arrow hit a part of the spinal vertebrae called the spinus process and bounced off because it is a pretty solid bone. Maybe an arrow with better penetration and momentum could have punched into that and at least stunned him, but still probably would have missed the actual spine because it runs under the spinus process.
Pretty sure the hush boys just put you on blast and you had no idea @hushin
Looks like you hit no mans land. Just above the lungs but below the spine. The fact that you didn't punch through tells me you need a heavier arrow/broadhead setup. Lose some speed but punch through and the lower speed often makes the bow a bit quieter.
Might have to weight up for the next hunt. Especially for elk
Quick question here: I`m not familiar with the laws in Texas (or the US for that matter), but arent you bound by law to persue and kill an animal that has been wounded? The hunting laws where i`m from strictly states that the hunt is not over until the animal has been found and taken care of (either put down or found dead). You are even allowed to enter someone elses land (you should notify them ofc.) to persue an injured animal. If you after a certain ammount of time cant find the injured animal yourself, the "case" i sent over to the state and or Police depending on what type of game you injured. (different ways to handle predatory game (Bears, lynx etc.)
Anyways, good luck on the next hunts and lets hope the land owner (or anyone) finds the injured deer.
Why not search with dog? It is good hunting practice in Europe.
That’s a great idea, I wish we had one a available close by. I’m not even sure the laws in ya s on that but would if we could.
Always aim at the hart
That's unfortunate you weren't able to recover your buck. Next time.
Sucks the Buck was not found but it happens.
Sorry man. It's a gut wrenching feeling to lose an animal that way.
You guys should sell beanies
Sucks, gotta aim low heart on those twitchy jokers!
I really hope an effort was made to find that deer and if not kill it at least make sure it was gonna be ok if injured and not just die somewhere. The video was good and this could happen to anyone of course I’m just not sure what one would do in this situation
It was time to hire a blood tracking dog.
gun
What a waste of a good hunt, good axis and a suffering animal. Shame shame.
It’s not always Hollywood out there peter. It never will be either.
That sucks 😢. Time to move on though 🙂
Can I come work for you
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EXPANDING TIPS SUCK ASK Ask B mack
this is why i never let bow hunters on my ranch..... regardless of how good they think they are the lost animals they have to pay for always pizzes them off,,, but it's an economic loser for the ranch owner.... you want to bow hunt buy your f....... ranch
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Troughs, blinds and feeders. Farm deer
Wild axis deer that roam wherever they want. Really fun to hunt and great meat. You should try it