would have been better if the test was conducted on the same model with a different ram option but identical other specs including chipset.. 7t and 8 pro have different chipsets and many other specs are different too
I think a lot of people get confused about ram. Having 8gb ram or 12 GB will have absolutely no performance differences unless the app you are working with requires more than 8gb and in 2022 that's none! Or anything even close. Ram doesn't improve how fast a device will compare unless it's newer version. And then it's milliseconds. It makes a difference with background apps. And let's be fair does anyone really need 20 apps running in.the backgrounds? If so I would suggest they turn off their phone and get on the laptop. So people wondering I can categorically tell you 8 and 12 GB of ram if exactly the same speeds makes etc etc will perform exactly the same as far as speed is concerned. ( Well unless you 20 odd apps open ans the 12 GB will be faster not because it's actually better but because there's more) do you need 20.apps open? No
Yeah I agree to a point. If you are looking to have your phone for a long time, get 12 gb. But if you are gonna have it for two years or less, get one that's 8gb. But in this video it seems it all comes down to ram management.
@@anonym439for 4-5 years 8GB is enough, what defines the RAM speed is the technology they used (LPDDR3/LPDDR4/LPDDR5) if you buy a LPDDR5 8GB it Will last for 5 years easly
PCs: We work fine on 4GBs of RAM. Give us 8 and we'll run latest AAA games. Smartphone brands: *UpGRaDE tO 12GB fOR mORe spEeD* EDIT: TL;DR: The 4/8GB RAM on PC is an exaggeration. Many people have correctly pointed out that 8GB RAM is now minimum for modern PCs and games would probably require 16GB or even 32GBs. The point of this comparison was to mock the trend of more RAM means more speed. Mobile phones manufacturers had surpassed PCs in terms of RAM back in late 2018s. But if you don't game, I've seen many people being content with 4GBs on RAM for basic tasks like 1 or 2 chrome windows and editing documents. This is especially true for Linux users. All versions of Windows before 10 also run fine on 4 gigs. But now as 8GB has become the norm with 16 being the sweet spot, Microsoft has seen fit to let Windows consume more RAM for snappier switching between tasks. Besides, on PC, you can very easily use up 32 or 64GBs of RAM. On phone, I can't imagine a scenario where more than 8GBs would be required.
I can't honestly say a single time when I didn't feel that my phone with 6GB of RAM could handle a task. The amount of RAM truly is not that important past a point. For what the majority of people use their devices for, 6 is absolutely plenty. Even games run great with that amount.
@Whats in THE name I can't imagine better display than my oppo find x2 pro, but battery life is something every high end smartphone on the market is lacking, because of their high performance and 4k, 120 displays. :/
I regret getting a 4gb version of my phone instead of the 6gb version. My phone is constantly using 3.1gb of ram. Basically leaving 1gb for extra stuff.
@@dnegel9546 same but I got a phone with 2gb ram I was so stupid I cant even run games without lag 60% of the time I got the 2gb version instead of the 4gb ram one imma upgrade my phone in a few weeks tho
@@Airzacboy05YT I was going to upgrade soon as well.. but after the announcement of the next Snapdragon. I think I'll just wait, seems it will be a huge upgrade over the sd888. In the meantime I'll just save up. Looking at getting the next Sony Xperia. Or maybe I'll see what google will do. Not gona lie tho... I seriously want to upgrade now. 😥
Just to stir some water, if you are the casual smartphone user who doesn't have 10+ apps open simultaneously at once, 6gb for ram is plenty. Even mid-range phones like the A71 can provide this experience plenty. 8GB and 12GB is like mid-grade laptop levels that you'll probably never max out anyways unless you're into hardcore gaming. Bottom line is, if you judge smartphones solely by ram size, and are willing to pay an arm and a leg for them, they'll most likely never disappoint!
The funny thing with MIUI is that with 8,6 and 4gb of ram,you're getting similar results.The only bigger difference is between 8 and 4.Between 6 and both 8 and 4 there ain't that big of a difference.They definitely need to improve their ram management soon.
Truth is android os doesn't really use more than 4GB ram. After 20 or so open apps, it's a crapshoot whether the OS decides to start killing apps or not. Don't matter if the phone has 8 or 16 GB. It's excessive and just a marketing upgrade.
I rethink my decision after seen this video👍🏻 Actually i want to buy nubia red magic 5g with 12 gb now im making decision to buy 8gb which is more cheaper and not stress much about thinking which is better. Im not a user that use too many app at one time. Tq btw
Still using 4gb of ram still running perfectly 12gb or 16gb on a phone is Overkill Since let's be honest who's gonna bother of an app getting restarted after leaving it for a day
Once you've filled up a 3rd of the memory, which won't take long, it's about as fast as a 16gb 1gb ram phone. I've got an A50 with 4 gb of ram and it's perfect. Smartphone upgrades are the biggest rip off in electronic history. Every few years I buy a good 2nd hand phone cash. Contracts cost the earth, and you end up paying huge amounts for phones that aren't worth a 3rd of what you've paid. I hate being ripped off and am far happier having an older phone that's paid for. Also, I only change my phone when I absolutely have to. Being a non gamer I've only used up about 1/4 of my 128gb's. Tv's come down in price yet smartphones and cars go up non stop, and the gullible public go running after every single "must have" that's advertised. The advertisers sell the lie that you simply "MUST HAVE" the latest of everything, that's why most people are so miserable - because they literally BUY into the lie. "Not I" said the judge.
Nice work, bro. However, in my pov, i still recommend 12gb ram even though 8gb is enough, but due to longterm using, not anyone change their phone.1-2 year once. Some ppl use the phone for more than 4 years. Hence at that time, the maxed out spec u bought 4 years before is easy to sell and still in good function with the current daily usage.
I was using Samsung s7 edge until last month, it has 4GB ram and the most painful for me was the speed in app, probably the low CPU speed with low ram speed. If I compare to current cheap 4GB phone, it's much faster then top galaxy phone from 2016 with the best spec in 2016. So what happened is that it has firstly problem with speed, than the capacity. I would also prefer 12G just for safe way, but no 12GB Xiaomi mi 10 Pro was on global market. I expect with my 8GB it will again start being slow than having insufficient amount. And when you get to phase that the real app usage is slow, you don't bother with app being killed on background and reopening 3 more seconds, because the slow usage is much worse.
Even if I tried to use a smartphone for more than 2 years it's battery would be used up after this time with all those warp charging and sometimes charging even twice a day with my heavy usage.
At some point it will stop going up, like it happened to computers years ago. You can't just expect to daily use 16 GB of RAM in a phone. Prices will go down though, so buying an overpowered phone (and not using its full power) will not make it a better choice against future phones (cheaper and new). Battery should need to be replaced too after 4 years to compete against new phones in the market, which also have warranty...
I guess, all Androids has built-in app killer that kills apps when not in used for a couple of minutes or seconds?🤔 And I also guess, it was from battery energy saving or data saving, which either are annoying?🤔 iPhone used to freeze apps but not totally killing them?🤔 On this feature, the best RAM Management and overall OPTIMIZATION goes to iPhones/iPads?🤔 _(Sorry, English is not my first language)_
@@i_hate_rock_and_metal Apps in Android, don't just consume ram, they also consume other resources such as cpu, network and hence battery...Meanwhile Apple just freezes them ( with the exception of some media apps). Also most androids apps are written in java which by its nature requires more ram usage than compiled languages such as ones used for iOS. So in the end it's not about optimization, just different approaches.
it always make me laugh about this so called Hardcore mobile gamers choosing 12gb ram above.. cause they really thought bigger ram makes the game performance better. when literally theres no difference cause ram is for multitasking. 8gb ram is more than enough
@@Kyogen. I said more than enough, 4 gb phones will work like a charm too for daily use, if you buy a phone seeing how much ram it has, I have news for you._.
People are getting to worked up about 12 or 8gb ram. It doesn’t make any difference at this level. It all boils down to software management. Look how well Apple does with 4gb !!! 6gb is overkill in iPhone. The only advantage to 12gb ram is that it usually come with more storage and that is a worthy upgrade. But folks if you 8gb ram your phone will run absolutely the same as your buddy’s phone whinges 12gb
Better to test the same units to get the accurate result.. One plus 8 Pro should not be compared on One Plus 7t.. It should be One Plus 8 Pro 8GB/12GB to get the exact difference..
I couldn't agree more my friend. I used what I had. If OnePlus want me to do that then they better send me some phones 😉 I used the 7T and 8 Pro because because they are the only phones I have that share the same software that is very stock Android in order to test as accurate as possible with what I have. But thanks for watching bud✌️
Also this is the first time i seen video cut into different parts. I wanted to see the reopening again and it dragged me into the start of that section. SO CONVINENT. Ur videos r like Oxygen Os😘
Great video, so it appears that you don’t need 12gbs of ram? And that 8gbs is just fine. What is thoughts on those two phones, do you think it is worth upgrading from the 7t to the 8 Pro and paying all that extra money?
It isn't necessary tbh.. I think it'll be better for you to get whatever comes in 2021 just because phones will get much better in that year (especially with 5 nm chipsets). Oh and everything comes down to optimisation.
If you take a lot of pictures, want wireless charging, and care for waterproofing and have the money to spend then it is definitely worth it. If those things don't matter to you then I'd stick to the 7T since there isn't much of an improvement in the performance department if you ask me. Cheers🍻
In all honesty this is nothing to do with Ram management but what the OEM (OnePlus) has set in their modified version of Android, you don't want to many applications left open because thats increased system load, higher impact on CPU resources = more heat and in turn and far more importantly battery life. 50 apps open and you will be watching your battery deplete in real time. That's why despite iPhones having tiny batteries and pathetic amount of ram can get away with it as it suspends tasks and compresses the application. A operation that Android needs really rather than running all the time.
TechNick ur the best, ur Filipino fan here watching in Malaysia.👏🏼👍🏼 Give me a Lenovo Z6 Pro haha joke, hoping for more subscriber here. You deserved more!
Depends on the user. 3 GB is enough for the most common phone users in 2020. Maybe 4 GB will be the standard in 2021 and 2022. That means, for gaming you should have at least a step more than that.
@@cheeps1329 Dude, people used to have less than 2gb ram. 3gb is more than enough to play even pubg or Cod. Not in extreme settings but definitely in normal.
@@d.shadocx9277 If I'm not mistaken Apple only uses 4gb-6gb of ram and they can pretty much play any game. Usually the bottleneck is the cpu, not the ram. You can have 12gb of ram but with a bad processor that means nothing. Or a good processor with 3gb of ram and be able to play any game decently. Evidently, you can pay more for more ram and a better experience. But that is not the question. For someone who just plays casually or isn't interested in extreme quality, just have to pay what they need. No reason for more, nor to argue that he needs more even though he doesn't. If the market requires a better phone for better games or an specific game, he could buy other phone until that. Anyways, people spend money for a phone every year or two-three years if they have to.
I am looking to upgrade my One Plus 5T and I was wondering which of the following phones you would recommend:- The One Plus 8 Pro (because I am used to the One Plus UI and I believe the cameras are good on it) the Huawei P30 Pro (because you gave it a favourable long term report and it has still got Google Play Store and I have an Honour Watch) the iPhone 11 ( because I have a MacBook Pro and I have had an iPhone in the past and Left the Apple Ecosystem because they messed up their software a couple of years back but I think it is better now). Or can you suggest another one beside these? I don't want to spend over £1000 for a phone as I feel that is way too expensive for a phone. I would appreciate your feedback as I do feel your reviews and recommendations are honest....thanks
Hey bud, did you watch my OnePlus 8 Pro unboxing and review? If not, definitely check it out. Since you are on a 5T I think you would probably be the happiest person in the world owning the new 8 Pro. What I tell you now is my true honest opinion, stats aside. Huaweis are great and the P30 Pro is a great option but it's already been replaced so you are kinda only upgrading one generation of phones instead of 2. I think the cameras on the P30 are brilliant and when compared to a OnePlus 7 the P30 dominates but the main sensor on the 8 Pro is so darn brilliant I would put it on par with the quality of the P30 Pro. Also, if you are coming from a OnePlus, going to a Huawei is going to be hard, it's probably the phone furthest from stock Android and OnePlus, as I'm sure you know has the best Android software around because it's so simple and stock. If you used to love apple, the iPhone 11 seems like a decent option provided you want to keep your phone for long, apple supports like 4 years of updates but I would recommend getting the Pro Max since it has a screen size on par with leading Android's and a much better battery. The regular 11 doesn't have an OLED display like the pro models. But even then... Let me tell you, I have an iPhone 11 pro Max. I used it for a while, and then went back to my Samsung. I then decided to give it another try a few months ago and used it for about a week and couldn't handle it anymore, it's like I'm not in control of my own phone. You know when you play a game and there is a setting missing that you would really like to change but can't? Well that's how I see iPhones. They are brilliant devices and have excellent hardware, the software is fantastic but the limitations put me off way too much. I am a sucker for the best Samsung around, but since I got the OnePlus 8 Pro, I honestly couldn't recommend a better phone to anyone. It's incredible. P.S. make sure you pickup the sandstone case with it, it's amazing 😉
TechNick wow.....amazing and extremely quick and detailed answer....thank you so much. I have only recently started watch your in-depth reviews and subscribed to channel. At 65 I am a bit old in the tooth but I still like gadgets and especially mobiles. I don’t change my phones that often but over the last 10 yrs I have had about 4 iPhones and was quite happy with their quality and their reliability but then they had trouble with one of their upgrades and just felt they just couldn’t care less about the consumer. Plus on iPhone 7 (I think it was the battery died very quickly and then we found out that they where doing something with the batteries to make you buy newer models.....that’s when I decided to move to Android to One Plus 5T) . It wasn’t easy moving from Apple to Android but the quality and reliability of the one Plus was just superb and reasonably priced was the icing on the cake). Recently, I have felt the 5T is getting on and sometimes can be a bit buggy, especially with installing new apps but I just feel I need a change. I totally agree, the oxygen os on the one plus is so so easy to use and so stock Android like. I was so looking forward to the One Plus 8 pro but then when it came out and the price hike and the not so great reviews I kinda went off it. But as you say if I went for the Huawei P30 pro I would be year back in the technology compared to the one Plus 8 Pro and if you say the camera would be better on the one plus 8 Pro....then I think I would be better with that. Plus living in the UK I don’t want to go with restrictions regarding Google devices with the P40 Pro ( yes I know there are ways round that.....I just don’t want the hassle). As for the iPhone.....I just don’t want to give the over £1000 to them for that ugly notch and really ugly camera set up. One Plus just has style compared to the larger iPhones. So it looks like I am going to get the One Plus 8 Pro. So thanks a million for helping me make up my mind....it’s just so hard trying to choose when you live in Northern Ireland where there is little or no chance to have a hands on experience to try out these phones....so then you have to rely on guys like you giving unbiased reviews.....again thanks a million...keep up the good work PS I will take up your advice and get the sandstone case as you recommended....what do you think of their new bullet headphones?
Amount of RAM is not as important as the WAY the RAM is managed. Classic example You will find that SONY phones though with less RAM than Samsung phones about perform them in terms of real-world application opening speed. You can have all the RAM you want, however if its not managed properly then its crap. RAM management is something that Sony phones do REALLY well........as your OWN videos have shown.
@@justsomepandawithinternet it still is, 8 and 12gb of RAM on a phone is high, for comparison an average PC has only 8gb of RAM and an average gaming PC has 16gb.
With modern UI and Android10 you probably should have at least 6GB RAM, so after rebooting and precaching there is about 2 or 2.5 GB RAM free. So about 4GB are used for the system _only_ .
I'm not sure if it's similar to PC, but on a computer, ram allocation doesn't mean you actually use it. For exemple, you could use 10gb out of your 16gb but only use 5gb in reality. That's also why when you got 16gb vs 32gb on a PC when you look at how much you "use" the amount of ram "used" in the 32gb one will be bigger than the 16gb.
Well, for some is may seem wrong, but it's TRUE, at some point, ram numbers dont matter unless there is a good speed+optimisation, then also the 8pro has more complex software which means more memory took away, also a phone cant give away all ram or the phone would be LITERALLY unusable, so my theory says op8pro kept more ram unusable just because its unnecessary and would make the phone unusable, cause at some point ram numbers are either for heavy tasks like montaging or super heavy files+lots and lots of them that you should keep open, but sometimes or even most it kills apps just cause; well not much use for. Please next time try force holding apps in the ram that would be interesting, thanks!
Couldn't have said it better myself. Will definitely include holding apps in the next one. Some phones only allow for 5 to stay held so I'll do it with some longer loading apps. Cheers bud 🍻
apple proved that 4 gb is more than enough if chipset and os are optimised perfectly. Sadly for android we need 6 or 8 gb ram to be sure that everything works smoove. 12 16 gb ram is absolute overkill even for pc it would be for high end build
I don't think there's a major difference between these phones, in the benchmarks as well, i think one should get oneplus 7t if in a tight budget, unbelievably great performance at its price
This is wrong. You can set weather you want to keep a certain application working on background. The reason it kills some other apps is because its not allowed to keep running on background. Since its not the same because some apps are closed on other phone it means the settings isnt similar.
@@TechNick i have the exact same thing i just can find a good phone that non Chinese that also good for gming samsung here 32k phones with snapdragon 730 with iqoo here is making snapdragon 865 144hz display phones at the same price but i think im gonna get rog 3 i saw a varient thats about 43k of the rog 3
would have been better if the test was conducted on the same model with a different ram option but identical other specs including chipset..
7t and 8 pro have different chipsets and many other specs are different too
Exactly what I was going to comment
But this scenario ought to have rather favoured the oneplus 8Pro judging it has superior RAM speed, latest SoC, more RAM and many other things.
@@achman2621 yes but not necessarily because like dude said in video 7t has received more updates being around longer optimized more.
does anyone know a video where they benchmark test the same exact phone with 2-3 different ram sizes tested?
No matter what you do, no one will ever be happy smh.
Do ur own test
I think a lot of people get confused about ram. Having 8gb ram or 12 GB will have absolutely no performance differences unless the app you are working with requires more than 8gb and in 2022 that's none! Or anything even close. Ram doesn't improve how fast a device will compare unless it's newer version. And then it's milliseconds. It makes a difference with background apps. And let's be fair does anyone really need 20 apps running in.the backgrounds? If so I would suggest they turn off their phone and get on the laptop. So people wondering I can categorically tell you 8 and 12 GB of ram if exactly the same speeds makes etc etc will perform exactly the same as far as speed is concerned. ( Well unless you 20 odd apps open ans the 12 GB will be faster not because it's actually better but because there's more) do you need 20.apps open? No
Yeah I agree to a point. If you are looking to have your phone for a long time, get 12 gb. But if you are gonna have it for two years or less, get one that's 8gb. But in this video it seems it all comes down to ram management.
@@Peterstarzynskitech bruh ram 8 gb can be with for 6 to 5 years bruh in now we even have game get 8gb ram
@@sitdown8302 you sure 8gb still capable for the next 5-6 years? Cuz im boutta buy new phone and hoping it will last me minimum 3 years
@@anonym439for 4-5 years 8GB is enough, what defines the RAM speed is the technology they used (LPDDR3/LPDDR4/LPDDR5) if you buy a LPDDR5 8GB it Will last for 5 years easly
@@anonym439I disagree. I bought a 4gb ram phone in 2019 rather tha 8gb and in 2022/23 it hangs like shit. Always buy a higher variant for long term
PCs: We work fine on 4GBs of RAM. Give us 8 and we'll run latest AAA games.
Smartphone brands: *UpGRaDE tO 12GB fOR mORe spEeD*
EDIT: TL;DR: The 4/8GB RAM on PC is an exaggeration.
Many people have correctly pointed out that 8GB RAM is now minimum for modern PCs and games would probably require 16GB or even 32GBs. The point of this comparison was to mock the trend of more RAM means more speed. Mobile phones manufacturers had surpassed PCs in terms of RAM back in late 2018s. But if you don't game, I've seen many people being content with 4GBs on RAM for basic tasks like 1 or 2 chrome windows and editing documents. This is especially true for Linux users.
All versions of Windows before 10 also run fine on 4 gigs. But now as 8GB has become the norm with 16 being the sweet spot, Microsoft has seen fit to let Windows consume more RAM for snappier switching between tasks. Besides, on PC, you can very easily use up 32 or 64GBs of RAM. On phone, I can't imagine a scenario where more than 8GBs would be required.
8 GB its bad for a pc, minimum 16 GB those days
Mean while iphone with 3 gb ram can run almost anything smoothly
@@jasonammy3222 yukkhhh....iOS...bleh >_
@@jasonammy3222 the power of OS optimization
@@JustKirill-f Some?
I can play GTA V on Ultra 1080p with 8Gb RAM
same with far Cry 5
both at 55fps
I just bought 7t and I want to see how 8 gigs holds up and you got a video with the 7t wow quality content right here
Should have bought the 9R
@@rakhijaiswal594 that's like saying you wish you weren't born
Comment is 10 months old bro
@@xvaylertherion551 ikr
@@xvaylertherion551 lmao
This video should be on trending
I can't honestly say a single time when I didn't feel that my phone with 6GB of RAM could handle a task. The amount of RAM truly is not that important past a point. For what the majority of people use their devices for, 6 is absolutely plenty. Even games run great with that amount.
@Whats in THE name I can't imagine better display than my oppo find x2 pro, but battery life is something every high end smartphone on the market is lacking, because of their high performance and 4k, 120 displays. :/
I regret getting a 4gb version of my phone instead of the 6gb version.
My phone is constantly using 3.1gb of ram. Basically leaving 1gb for extra stuff.
@@dnegel9546 same but I got a phone with 2gb ram I was so stupid I cant even run games without lag 60% of the time I got the 2gb version instead of the 4gb ram one imma upgrade my phone in a few weeks tho
@@Airzacboy05YT I was going to upgrade soon as well.. but after the announcement of the next Snapdragon. I think I'll just wait, seems it will be a huge upgrade over the sd888.
In the meantime I'll just save up. Looking at getting the next Sony Xperia. Or maybe I'll see what google will do.
Not gona lie tho... I seriously want to upgrade now. 😥
@@dnegel9546 same I hate saving 😴to much waiting I rlly need 1 now
Just to stir some water, if you are the casual smartphone user who doesn't have 10+ apps open simultaneously at once, 6gb for ram is plenty. Even mid-range phones like the A71 can provide this experience plenty.
8GB and 12GB is like mid-grade laptop levels that you'll probably never max out anyways unless you're into hardcore gaming.
Bottom line is, if you judge smartphones solely by ram size, and are willing to pay an arm and a leg for them, they'll most likely never disappoint!
Nick: 4, 6, 8, 12 and 16
Me checking my phone: RAM 2.00GB
NICCEEE:)
Me2😂
Me 1go lmao
4mb
Ikr
Whenever I read the word nice. I think of iFerg
00:10 and 3GB if you buy the SE2
The funny thing with MIUI is that with 8,6 and 4gb of ram,you're getting similar results.The only bigger difference is between 8 and 4.Between 6 and both 8 and 4 there ain't that big of a difference.They definitely need to improve their ram management soon.
This made no sense, "between 6 and both 8 and 4". What? Lol
Truth is android os doesn't really use more than 4GB ram. After 20 or so open apps, it's a crapshoot whether the OS decides to start killing apps or not. Don't matter if the phone has 8 or 16 GB. It's excessive and just a marketing upgrade.
But cache stored matters.
Then you need more than 4gb for faster apps and content loading
Exactly.
I rethink my decision after seen this video👍🏻
Actually i want to buy nubia red magic 5g with 12 gb now im making decision to buy 8gb which is more cheaper and not stress much about thinking which is better. Im not a user that use too many app at one time. Tq btw
i’ll buy the nubia red magic 5g too but i’m still gonna take the 12 gigs one cause it also has double the internal storage
Dont buy nubia it has errors on phone it self you will regret to buy the phone after 2 month
Still using 4gb of ram still running perfectly
12gb or 16gb on a phone is Overkill
Since let's be honest who's gonna bother of an app getting restarted after leaving it for a day
Your profile pic is a sad image. It was sad to see itachi die.
@@justadude5491 if only he has a 16gb ram, he wont have to die
Once you've filled up a 3rd of the memory, which won't take long, it's about as fast as a 16gb 1gb ram phone. I've got an A50 with 4 gb of ram and it's perfect. Smartphone upgrades are the biggest rip off in electronic history. Every few years I buy a good 2nd hand phone cash. Contracts cost the earth, and you end up paying huge amounts for phones that aren't worth a 3rd of what you've paid.
I hate being ripped off and am far happier having an older phone that's paid for. Also, I only change my phone when I absolutely have to. Being a non gamer I've only used up about 1/4 of my 128gb's.
Tv's come down in price yet smartphones and cars go up non stop, and the gullible public go running after every single "must have" that's advertised. The advertisers sell the lie that you simply "MUST HAVE" the latest of everything, that's why most people are so miserable - because they literally BUY into the lie.
"Not I" said the judge.
Its just because its new it will be better within the next months obviously
why?
But 12gb ram means 12 and it should be better
@@seth6042 it is not optimize like 4 in iPhone but faster than 12 optimization is more important
When you said Tech Nick I thought you said "we're gonna reboot phone to clear the background apps, this is technique".
You always bring something new on the table that's why i like you..🌝
hello
@@arbindsribastab6563 hi
no homo
Nice work, bro. However, in my pov, i still recommend 12gb ram even though 8gb is enough, but due to longterm using, not anyone change their phone.1-2 year once. Some ppl use the phone for more than 4 years. Hence at that time, the maxed out spec u bought 4 years before is easy to sell and still in good function with the current daily usage.
Good point, future proofing ✌️
I was using Samsung s7 edge until last month, it has 4GB ram and the most painful for me was the speed in app, probably the low CPU speed with low ram speed. If I compare to current cheap 4GB phone, it's much faster then top galaxy phone from 2016 with the best spec in 2016. So what happened is that it has firstly problem with speed, than the capacity. I would also prefer 12G just for safe way, but no 12GB Xiaomi mi 10 Pro was on global market. I expect with my 8GB it will again start being slow than having insufficient amount. And when you get to phase that the real app usage is slow, you don't bother with app being killed on background and reopening 3 more seconds, because the slow usage is much worse.
Even if I tried to use a smartphone for more than 2 years it's battery would be used up after this time with all those warp charging and sometimes charging even twice a day with my heavy usage.
At some point it will stop going up, like it happened to computers years ago. You can't just expect to daily use 16 GB of RAM in a phone. Prices will go down though, so buying an overpowered phone (and not using its full power) will not make it a better choice against future phones (cheaper and new). Battery should need to be replaced too after 4 years to compete against new phones in the market, which also have warranty...
Yeah but the price is different..
One word: *OPTIMIZATION*
Can't have all that power, but not use it well XD
This could never happen with some other OEMs
I guess, all Androids has built-in app killer that kills apps when not in used for a couple of minutes or seconds?🤔 And I also guess, it was from battery energy saving or data saving, which either are annoying?🤔 iPhone used to freeze apps but not totally killing them?🤔 On this feature, the best RAM Management and overall OPTIMIZATION goes to iPhones/iPads?🤔
_(Sorry, English is not my first language)_
@@i_hate_rock_and_metal Apps in Android, don't just consume ram, they also consume other resources such as cpu, network and hence battery...Meanwhile Apple just freezes them ( with the exception of some media apps). Also most androids apps are written in java which by its nature requires more ram usage than compiled languages such as ones used for iOS. So in the end it's not about optimization, just different approaches.
Imagine comparing opening apps by a split second?
Very good explanation confusion solved thank you 8 gb ram is sweet spot
it always make me laugh about this so called Hardcore mobile gamers choosing 12gb ram above.. cause they really thought bigger ram makes the game performance better. when literally theres no difference cause ram is for multitasking. 8gb ram is more than enough
That is the question.. Nice analysis
When it comes to gaming we can see the difference..
Le iphone 4GB sipping some good tea...
6 gb is more than enough,
More like 8
@@Kyogen. I said more than enough, 4 gb phones will work like a charm too for daily use, if you buy a phone seeing how much ram it has, I have news for you._.
@@gamingotaku1703 whats the news?
@@gamingotaku1703 all i said is that 8 is more than enough so i dont see the problem. Never said 6 or 4 gb isnt good ;-;
Guys even 12 gb is less.....I want 32 gb on my phone or else how will I give my hard earned money to these brands every year?
People are getting to worked up about 12 or 8gb ram. It doesn’t make any difference at this level. It all boils down to software management. Look how well Apple does with 4gb !!! 6gb is overkill in iPhone. The only advantage to 12gb ram is that it usually come with more storage and that is a worthy upgrade. But folks if you 8gb ram your phone will run absolutely the same as your buddy’s phone whinges 12gb
Better to test the same units to get the accurate result..
One plus 8 Pro should not be compared on One Plus 7t..
It should be One Plus 8 Pro 8GB/12GB to get the exact difference..
I couldn't agree more my friend. I used what I had. If OnePlus want me to do that then they better send me some phones 😉 I used the 7T and 8 Pro because because they are the only phones I have that share the same software that is very stock Android in order to test as accurate as possible with what I have. But thanks for watching bud✌️
@@TechNick I see.. 😊
I understand..
I always watch your videos buds from 20k subscribers until now. 😊
---Keep up..
Also this is the first time i seen video cut into different parts. I wanted to see the reopening again and it dragged me into the start of that section. SO CONVINENT. Ur videos r like Oxygen Os😘
Yeah it's awesome hey? Glad you noticed ✌️
Thank you for the time stamps!
I just subbed.
I have 6gb OnePlus 7 pro and its been a year and still works like charm❤️
Never knew the 7 pro had 6gb, i still use the oneplus 6 and that has 8gb :/
@@Tenma_Gold haha u got bigger turbo in older car kudos👍😂😂
Ur smartphones scientist!
What do I need to buy 8 Pro 12GB version or 8GB version and is there a performance or battery difference?
Great video, so it appears that you don’t need 12gbs of ram? And that 8gbs is just fine. What is thoughts on those two phones, do you think it is worth upgrading from the 7t to the 8 Pro and paying all that extra money?
I think wait till oneplus 9 pro and buy 8 pro or buy 9 pro.
It isn't necessary tbh.. I think it'll be better for you to get whatever comes in 2021 just because phones will get much better in that year (especially with 5 nm chipsets).
Oh and everything comes down to optimisation.
If you take a lot of pictures, want wireless charging, and care for waterproofing and have the money to spend then it is definitely worth it. If those things don't matter to you then I'd stick to the 7T since there isn't much of an improvement in the performance department if you ask me. Cheers🍻
855+ is an sd865 without 5g.. performance between the two is so so similar
More RAM is better for some heavy apps and heavy games and editing video... More Ram and faster Ram like LPDDR5 to 2750 MHz is always welcome
In all honesty this is nothing to do with Ram management but what the OEM (OnePlus) has set in their modified version of Android, you don't want to many applications left open because thats increased system load, higher impact on CPU resources = more heat and in turn and far more importantly battery life. 50 apps open and you will be watching your battery deplete in real time. That's why despite iPhones having tiny batteries and pathetic amount of ram can get away with it as it suspends tasks and compresses the application. A operation that Android needs really rather than running all the time.
Just saying that it’s not really a fair comparison as it should be the exact same device but only with the ram changed
We need 2GB vs 12GB!
Ok!!! can someone say me which is better? Either 8gb ram or 12gb...
Lmao, watch the video.
Doesn’t this also depend on the optimizations of the software?
TechNick ur the best, ur Filipino fan here watching in Malaysia.👏🏼👍🏼
Give me a Lenovo Z6 Pro haha joke, hoping for more subscriber here. You deserved more!
Thank you! Really appreciate the support 😎 haha I would love to, hopefully when my channel is bigger😉
@@TechNick it will definitely be bigger soon.👍🏼
This was a very interesting video. 🍻cheers
i sure was
it
Thanks bud! Glad to hear it😎
The results are not satisfactory just because they are 2 different phones, meaning 2 different RAM management efficiency and optimisation
4 is enough for me still in 2020 will see if I require more in 2021.
I think maybe in 2021 6 GB is average
@@surajnanda1712 hmm 8GB would be adequate.
@@ramzirmz786 i think 6gb is more than enough
12gb is overkill
And the sweet spot is 8gb
Depends on the user. 3 GB is enough for the most common phone users in 2020. Maybe 4 GB will be the standard in 2021 and 2022. That means, for gaming you should have at least a step more than that.
This should have been done with the same model phone with different RAM options
Hence why I'd never buy more than 8gb (which seems to be the minimum nowadays) and got the 8gb oneplus 8!
This test applies only to OnePlus. Every ROM uses RAM differently. On my phone with 12GB I have 8GB used on average.
iPhone wait that’s illegal
3gb is enough for a minimalist gamer like me
You play Snake or what?
@@cheeps1329 Dude, people used to have less than 2gb ram. 3gb is more than enough to play even pubg or Cod. Not in extreme settings but definitely in normal.
@@kevinmartincossiolozano8245 And PUBG or CoD didn't exist when phones had less than 2 GB RAM...
@@d.shadocx9277 If I'm not mistaken Apple only uses 4gb-6gb of ram and they can pretty much play any game.
Usually the bottleneck is the cpu, not the ram. You can have 12gb of ram but with a bad processor that means nothing. Or a good processor with 3gb of ram and be able to play any game decently.
Evidently, you can pay more for more ram and a better experience. But that is not the question. For someone who just plays casually or isn't interested in extreme quality, just have to pay what they need. No reason for more, nor to argue that he needs more even though he doesn't.
If the market requires a better phone for better games or an specific game, he could buy other phone until that. Anyways, people spend money for a phone every year or two-three years if they have to.
@@kevinmartincossiolozano8245 apple has a more optimized system than android...
Ddr5 Vs ddr4 and different chip sets doesn't make it a fair playing ground .
2069: Smartphones come with 128gb ram
I hate that OP doesn't have an option for a Glacial Green 12gb version in the US.
I had glacial green for two weeks and it was beautiful, my phone now is anthracite which is soo boring.
I am looking to upgrade my One Plus 5T and I was wondering which of the following phones you would recommend:- The One Plus 8 Pro (because I am used to the One Plus UI and I believe the cameras are good on it) the Huawei P30 Pro (because you gave it a favourable long term report and it has still got Google Play Store and I have an Honour Watch) the iPhone 11 ( because I have a MacBook Pro and I have had an iPhone in the past and Left the Apple Ecosystem because they messed up their software a couple of years back but I think it is better now). Or can you suggest another one beside these? I don't want to spend over £1000 for a phone as I feel that is way too expensive for a phone. I would appreciate your feedback as I do feel your reviews and recommendations are honest....thanks
Hey bud, did you watch my OnePlus 8 Pro unboxing and review? If not, definitely check it out. Since you are on a 5T I think you would probably be the happiest person in the world owning the new 8 Pro. What I tell you now is my true honest opinion, stats aside. Huaweis are great and the P30 Pro is a great option but it's already been replaced so you are kinda only upgrading one generation of phones instead of 2. I think the cameras on the P30 are brilliant and when compared to a OnePlus 7 the P30 dominates but the main sensor on the 8 Pro is so darn brilliant I would put it on par with the quality of the P30 Pro. Also, if you are coming from a OnePlus, going to a Huawei is going to be hard, it's probably the phone furthest from stock Android and OnePlus, as I'm sure you know has the best Android software around because it's so simple and stock. If you used to love apple, the iPhone 11 seems like a decent option provided you want to keep your phone for long, apple supports like 4 years of updates but I would recommend getting the Pro Max since it has a screen size on par with leading Android's and a much better battery. The regular 11 doesn't have an OLED display like the pro models. But even then... Let me tell you, I have an iPhone 11 pro Max. I used it for a while, and then went back to my Samsung. I then decided to give it another try a few months ago and used it for about a week and couldn't handle it anymore, it's like I'm not in control of my own phone. You know when you play a game and there is a setting missing that you would really like to change but can't? Well that's how I see iPhones. They are brilliant devices and have excellent hardware, the software is fantastic but the limitations put me off way too much. I am a sucker for the best Samsung around, but since I got the OnePlus 8 Pro, I honestly couldn't recommend a better phone to anyone. It's incredible. P.S. make sure you pickup the sandstone case with it, it's amazing 😉
TechNick wow.....amazing and extremely quick and detailed answer....thank you so much. I have only recently started watch your in-depth reviews and subscribed to channel. At 65 I am a bit old in the tooth but I still like gadgets and especially mobiles. I don’t change my phones that often but over the last 10 yrs I have had about 4 iPhones and was quite happy with their quality and their reliability but then they had trouble with one of their upgrades and just felt they just couldn’t care less about the consumer. Plus on iPhone 7 (I think it was the battery died very quickly and then we found out that they where doing something with the batteries to make you buy newer models.....that’s when I decided to move to Android to One Plus 5T) . It wasn’t easy moving from Apple to Android but the quality and reliability of the one Plus was just superb and reasonably priced was the icing on the cake). Recently, I have felt the 5T is getting on and sometimes can be a bit buggy, especially with installing new apps but I just feel I need a change. I totally agree, the oxygen os on the one plus is so so easy to use and so stock Android like. I was so looking forward to the One Plus 8 pro but then when it came out and the price hike and the not so great reviews I kinda went off it. But as you say if I went for the Huawei P30 pro I would be year back in the technology compared to the one Plus 8 Pro and if you say the camera would be better on the one plus 8 Pro....then I think I would be better with that. Plus living in the UK I don’t want to go with restrictions regarding Google devices with the P40 Pro ( yes I know there are ways round that.....I just don’t want the hassle). As for the iPhone.....I just don’t want to give the over £1000 to them for that ugly notch and really ugly camera set up. One Plus just has style compared to the larger iPhones. So it looks like I am going to get the One Plus 8 Pro. So thanks a million for helping me make up my mind....it’s just so hard trying to choose when you live in Northern Ireland where there is little or no chance to have a hands on experience to try out these phones....so then you have to rely on guys like you giving unbiased reviews.....again thanks a million...keep up the good work
PS I will take up your advice and get the sandstone case as you recommended....what do you think of their new bullet headphones?
Omygossh you both are giving a speech instead of comments
Great video 👍 always wondered if more ram would benefit you at all since the newer the phones the more ram they throw at it 😡 pointless IMHO 😱😱
Ram is very much needed in a smartphone in 2020 for multitasking and duing gaming and remebring background apps memory 📱📱💯🧐🧐🧐
Of course it's needed, but how much do you need is the question 😉
12gb is overkill and useless
16gb would be killer RAM in a smartphone
Amount of RAM is not as important as the WAY the RAM is managed. Classic example You will find that SONY phones though with less RAM than Samsung phones about perform them in terms of real-world application opening speed. You can have all the RAM you want, however if its not managed properly then its crap. RAM management is something that Sony phones do REALLY well........as your OWN videos have shown.
One plus 8 screen looks amazing
How much RAM do you need?
Me: YES
Great comparison, and we know how RAM is used and how much should be RAM .
One plus 7T ❤️
8 Pro is just GIGANTIC!
Well, higher RAM is not needed if you're not heavy user. 3 GB is still enough.
Haha Ur joking
Stop with your broke man mentality
6 GB is enough
@@surajnanda1712 no
It depends on the how you use your phone, but 3GB Ram is way too small. At least 4GB i would suggest.
Who do you advice me 8 ram or 12 ram
wow so ram numbers in phone is just for marketing i think
No, stop with your broke man mentality
@@justsomepandawithinternet it still is, 8 and 12gb of RAM on a phone is high, for comparison an average PC has only 8gb of RAM and an average gaming PC has 16gb.
but if you go on 12gb ram, you'll be future proof especially if you decide to keep it for 3 years
Awesome video Nick.
Nice bro, so much love to u😘
...keep it up. And give us such a Nc video
Lol me here watching in 1GB ram phone
My old phone had internal storage of 8gb 🤣🤣
Which phone?
@@nownow1681 I've had iPhone 4 with 8 gb storage lol
Hey tech nick you should give podcasts a try
Watching on OnePlus 8 8gb. Upgraded from Pixel 1 4gb. 4gb wasn't cutting it after end of 2019 update.
With modern UI and Android10 you probably should have at least 6GB RAM, so after rebooting and precaching there is about 2 or 2.5 GB RAM free. So about 4GB are used for the system _only_ .
Not sure about other phones but my Redmi Note 8 Pro with 6GB of Ram will usually maintain around 3.5-4GB of Ram when i didn't open any apps.
I'm not sure if it's similar to PC, but on a computer, ram allocation doesn't mean you actually use it. For exemple, you could use 10gb out of your 16gb but only use 5gb in reality. That's also why when you got 16gb vs 32gb on a PC when you look at how much you "use" the amount of ram "used" in the 32gb one will be bigger than the 16gb.
Nice work Nick!
Thanks!
Well, for some is may seem wrong, but it's TRUE, at some point, ram numbers dont matter unless there is a good speed+optimisation, then also the 8pro has more complex software which means more memory took away, also a phone cant give away all ram or the phone would be LITERALLY unusable, so my theory says op8pro kept more ram unusable just because its unnecessary and would make the phone unusable, cause at some point ram numbers are either for heavy tasks like montaging or super heavy files+lots and lots of them that you should keep open, but sometimes or even most it kills apps just cause; well not much use for.
Please next time try force holding apps in the ram that would be interesting, thanks!
Couldn't have said it better myself. Will definitely include holding apps in the next one. Some phones only allow for 5 to stay held so I'll do it with some longer loading apps. Cheers bud 🍻
@@TechNick 😊😊😊( dont tell me cheers cause its forbidden in our relegion (islam) with all respect buddy).
apple proved that 4 gb is more than enough if chipset and os are optimised perfectly. Sadly for android we need 6 or 8 gb ram to be sure that everything works smoove. 12 16 gb ram is absolute overkill even for pc it would be for high end build
What kind of person who opens 50 apps a day?
I open 50-60 apps a day, heavy user. And I don't like PCs too much :)
@@awdadwadwad1723 what does that even mean? Smartphones are PCs too.
3:49 The reason why the messenger app opened is because you tapped the messenger app icon with you ring finger.
It would be better though if you compared oneplus 8 pro 8gb version vs 12gb version. So that everything else would be the same.
Yup, because of that the test was pointless.
Wow you make great videos! Better than other big channels.
I don't think there's a major difference between these phones, in the benchmarks as well, i think one should get oneplus 7t if in a tight budget, unbelievably great performance at its price
MIUI left the chat..🤭
Miui needs 16 gb of ram
What is wrong with miui?
@@awdadwadwad1723 agressive ram management
@@beanfactory_youtube exactly the same as on iPhone which in both is great, because users get huge battery time...
@@beanfactory_youtube There is an option called memory exceptions where you can make certain apps stay while your gaming
4:29 what did they say in message?
This is wrong. You can set weather you want to keep a certain application working on background. The reason it kills some other apps is because its not allowed to keep running on background. Since its not the same because some apps are closed on other phone it means the settings isnt similar.
who tf is opening 50 apps? im an addict at turning off my apps.
10 march 2021 : umm , 18 Gb is enough 😂😣ROG
Great vid thanks
Nice content nick!!!!!
very cool love it as always
Cheers 🍻
@@TechNick oh hi i wanted to ask a question what's the best gaming phone under 43k rupees thats non Chinese
Do you regard the rog phone as a gaming phone? Otherwise it's hard to say. What gaming phones aren't Chinese lol?
@@TechNick i have the exact same thing i just can find a good phone that non Chinese that also good for gming samsung here 32k phones with snapdragon 730 with iqoo here is making snapdragon 865 144hz display phones at the same price but i think im gonna get rog 3 i saw a varient thats about 43k of the rog 3
@@TechNick also rog literally means Republic of gamers
50 apps 6 minutes nice
I got a 12GB
Awesome video
How to examine the RAM speed before buying a new phone?
I'm using pocophone F1 with 6GB ram and 128GB internal storage with SD card 128GB to, Snapdragon 845 I'm fully satisfied.
Love it bro. Bro please unbox realme x50 pro player edition
Thx for the video!
Everyone using 8/256
Me using 2/16 tablet 😢
Really a nice questions is put up!
It will be wealthy competition if both are same models
Me seeing this video with 50$ 2gb ram phone lol. Gets my job done though
2 GB is enough for OS, basic apps and web searching.
Conclusion: 12gb is worse than 8gb😅
Nope
Ye said at the last that the 7T is more optimized at present
There are a big difference in battery (consum) between 12 and 16 GB ram?
Ram matters for games.
Excelent video!!! Very useful
Cheers🍻