What To Expect When Running 285s On Your 4runner:
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- Thinking of putting a set of 285/70/17 tires on your 4th Gen Toyota 4runner? Here's my experience (and pros and cons) after 5 years.
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Definitely one of the most helpful videos out there concerning this topic. I have a 4.0L 5th Gen 4Runner TRD Pro. My main goals have nothing to do with off-road. This video confirmed my choice to staying with the stock size. For me, while the larger tires would definitely look cool. They wouldn't look cool enough.
Thanks for watching!
Man that looks fantastic!! Great job
Thanks!
Excellent……just excellent. Thank you..
Well now, isn’t this video a nice find. One of the better “general” 285 tire reviews on the 4Runner. Well done!
Thanks for watching!
Slippery and expensive slope once you go the bigger tire route vs. stock. Kudos for presenting pros/cons. Ford and Jeep figured it out by offering 35s-37s as factory tires on the Bronco and Wrangler Recon. Have a 2021 4x4 Tacoma with XP Predator package which gives you nice looking TRD wheels and 265 series Nitto Ridge Grappler tires. Couldn't be happier. Looks fine and rides great. See if Toyota offers bigger tire packages on the next gen whenever it comes out.
Looks great. I had 285s on 2nd gen taco and it ran fine I didn’t have any issues.
Bought my 4Runner used and had the 285’s already almost new. That means I can’t do any comparisons but I sure like ‘em! My wife’s car is the fuel efficient one. I kinda doubt I’ll be doing any off-roading. I do need to do a few of the things you did, like trimming the front finder. Maybe not the wisest choice of a car for me but I sure do love everything about it so far!
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Love your content brother!
I have an ‘09 Sport V6 with a 3/2.5” bilstein & OME heavy spring set up, falken wildpeak 275/70/17’s KMC Recon -12mm offset rims and JBA UCA’s. Removed the stock bumper for lil b’s armor so I don’t have the front rubbing issue at all. Once I put the rims on I had to do a bmc chop and additional fender trimming. Even after that, I still have to grind down some sort of thin metal piece hitting the rear of the front tires. The chopping never ends.
You shouldn’t have to do a BMC for that size tire so you are doing something very wrong.
That’s what I thought but I defer to the expertise of the mechanics doing the work. What do you think the problem is?
Love your content bro, I really appreciate the time you put into all your videos, you most likely have the most comprehensive info on the 4th gen 4Runners. One thing maybe you left out ( I’ll be honest I skipped a little) do you have a lift kit on your truck? It looks like it but maybe it’s just the bigger tires and lack of running boards. I just have a leveling kit on the front on mine and am wondering what the biggest tire I can fit is. I’m fine with some trimming or whatever but can’t afford a lift right now ( just spent about 2k on exhaust) thanks for any info!
Hey John, you're right I did leave that out but it was in the original vid that I mentioned. Mine is lifted about 2.25" up front and 2" in the rear. Thanks for the kind words!
35x12.50 is way to heavy but the 285/70s are not bad at all i have learned something on this video THANK YOU so much 🤝😎👏
Very informative video! I’m installing 285/70/17s next week. Will my factory 16 inch wheel with 265s work for the spare tire?
I have 285/70r/17 Duratracs on my 4th gen. 3 inch lift with 1 inch body lift and BMC. Aftermarket UCA's. Drives amazing even at high speeds.
Any rubbing on slopes or dirt piles? Full lock or in reverse?
@@nataliamiliano150 No rubbing at all.
After having 285/75 and 255/85 (which are taller) I prefer the 255/85. They are plenty wide and seem to have less wear on ball joints and bushings.
aftermarket arm with added castor will help you with the tramlining you were talking about!
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Nice breakdown on the pros/cons... lots of cons for sure. Think I'll stick with my 270 wildpeak at3's on my 4th gen 4runner... not too big, not too small. Just right for me.
Yes there are more cons, but the pros are so good!
I just bought a 4runner today, is yours stock ride height?
@@kentbremner7828 I have the adjustable bilstein 5100's set at 2 inch height. Cheers.
I put 285 m/t toyos on 03 v8 with a 2” lift. I did have to do trimming and still get some rubbing. It performs great off road, gas mileage sucks but I was prepared for it. Only problem is my teenage son is going to start driving and wants my truck as his first vehicle😢
I like the way you review things, I need you to change to a 5th gen ;)
Who knows, maybe some day!
From what i've read, adjusting the castor will bring back stability on uneven surfaces and return your steering wheel to center itself. I think I saw that there are aftermarket adjustable bushings that adjust castor that I'm going to try.
Yeah it definitely could, but I drove this on the OEM wheels and tires for a bit and noticed a difference with the same alignment specs
I love duratraks
The one thing you need to make clear is that 33" tires will not work unless you also add a lift kit. They absolutly will rub terribly with a stock suspension. I installed Falken Wildpeak 285/70/17's on my 3rd Gen. 4Runner w/ 17"x8.5" wheels w/ -10 offset. Also did a 2" lift w/ Bilstein 5100's and OME springs. I sprung for new SPC adjustable upper control arms so that my alignment could get back close to original factory....it tracks and steers really well. I still had to trim the front of the wheel well flares a little and I still get a slight rub on the back of the wheel wells at almost full lock in reverse only...I can live with that. I did have a vibration between 60-65 mph, so I added a front differential drop kit that gets the angle of the front axels back close to factory, and that solved the vibration issue. So the moral of the story is that there are quite a few things that need to be addressed to really dial in the ride and clearance once you commit to the larger tires. They do look great, and this thing is a beast off road. I was getting about 20mpg on the highway and that dropped to 18mpg...3.4 L V-6. Another issue is the speedometer is off. When the dial reads 70mph, I'm actually going close to 75mph. This also means that your mileage on the odometer will be off...I travel about 7 additional miles per 100 miles traveled on the odometer reading....bigger tires cover more ground on every rotation. You have to check your gas mileage with GPS to get an accurate reading.
I thought it was pretty obvious that you need a lift to fit these tires but I did include it in the original vid that I referenced. The speedometer/odometer reading is a great point - I wish I could add it to the video. I always account for the difference in tire size when calculating fuel economy.
@@CanadianGearhead not obvious if you are just learning about this. Thanks.
He did mention it it in the video. It's in his other video. Stop trying to be right. Wow.
@@mclarenf115 Settle down Beavis! Just sharing my experience....wow!
@@stephenvice1019 sorry you're not to bright.. bright butthead. Seriously pay attention
Great video once again, do you have a link to the hood bug deflector?
Unfortunately I don't, I think it could only be ordered at Canadian Toyota dealerships
Amazing video bro! Learned a lot I just have one question, how many inches is the lift?
Mine is about 2.25" up front and 2" in the rear
275 70 17 are pufect, I'm 63 and built one a year or two since 1987,
Anothing thing to consider is tire rating. For example with KO2's most people get E rating which for a Toyota daily driver with occasional off roading is not necessary, a C rating handles all of that, but is roughly 10 pounds lighter per tire. When you consider a tire weighs about 50 lbs thats a huge fraction of the overall weight.
There is one other con, bad weather. Wider tires in general decrease handling/braking capability in rain and snow. There's a guy from Australia who has travelled extensively in his vehicle, over 400K miles. He noticed that people in N America tend to go for the bigger tire/wheel setup and the rest of the overlanding community outside of N America stays with stock. There are many reasons why, but two really stuck out. That is price and availability. In S. America, as well as other parts of the world, it can take up to 2 months to get a replacement tire that is a large, aftermarket tire at often 2 to 3 times the price.
That's all very true, skinny tires do perform well in many situations
I’m running 295/70r17s nitto trail grapplers on my 2003 4runner v6 with a 3 inch toytec/ bilestein lift, and stock upper control arms. I had to trim a couple inches off of the bumper, do the body mount chop, and hammer the pin heels flat. It doesn’t ride good at speed with the factory upper control arms and panhard bar. But my tires won’t rub anywhere, even turning while fully flexed out.
Great video.
I split the difference in my 5th gen and went 275. I’d have gone 285 but I definitely did not want a BMC. Tough to avoid with 285s on a 5th gen
I’m actually surprised more people don’t go 275. They seem to either go 265 or 285. Not sure why
Because 275s are almost all E rated tires which are heavy truck tires. They'll give a rougher ride and waste even more MPG. The one notable exception is the Wildpeak which is a C rated tire.
@@wewd update on the 275s. I ended up getting 285s.
Can you cut the front bumper?
I ran 285s on my stock wheels (16’ trd premium with KDSS) with a 1 inch spacer and TRD pro shocks didn’t rub what so ever. They only rubbed when I got my after market wheels because they are wider and have a slightly different offset. But with the stock wheels it was fine. I now have 285 and they only barley rub at full crank. Not even enough to cut/weld anything I’ve had it for 5 years it’s been fine I think it’s hugely overkill to cut and weld the inside of the frame like people do u less your running’s 305s or bigger also just did a cross country road trip and was able to get 22MPG across NM/TX I WAS SHOCKED
Thank you for the input. 2015 metallic grey 4 runner with KDSS suspension on Toytec coil overs and heady duty springs. My next set was in the fence 285’s. Thanks bro. You knocked me off that fence. You sir are the guy I’ve been searching ti hear from 👍🏼
I run KO2 34x10.5 on my V8.
They killed my mileage until I regeared to 4.88.
I went from 24 l /100k around town.
To 18 l /100k around town.
15l/100k highway
An 13.5l/100k if I keep it under 85 km per hour.
That's very interesting!
Many women go weak in knees when they they see a dark-coloured SUV/truck with dark-coloured wheels with oversized tires. They think, "he's laying it down!"
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I've read so many things about people having to do the body mount chop on their 4th gens with that size tire. Even off-road you haven't noticed it rubbing? Its time for new wheels and tires on mine and I have a really good deal on some 285/70/17s but I would really like to avoid cutting that mount if possible.
I've never rubbed it as far as I know but it really comes down to wheel offset and alignment specs
Last word looking cool isnt cheap!
I just put 285 on mine as well. I was lucky like you, didn't have to do a body chop. However, I am running on a +15 offset 5th gen rims and tires rub on UCA and on the sway bar at full lock. Considering wheel spacers but I am on the fence a little bit. Did you have any rubbing on UCA and the sway bar?
Nope I didn't have any rubbing on either
I would love to know what company makes that bug deflector!
It's a Toyota one
If soccer moms started running 33s with 2 inch lift kits...I would just give up.
Damn.. soccer moms likes this stuff. 285 going on all my vehicles.
Just did eibach lift and level on my 4th gen iam just wondering how would 275s would work on it ?? Any thoughts
They shouldn't require as much trimming
What abt 275
Have you had to replace your axles yet on this truck? Any recommendations on what axles to go with?
Axles have been fine so far, the angles aren't bad at all at this height
I’d trim the fender some more
Are those wheels the Method mr301s? And i may have missed it but are 17x8.5? And whats the offset? Thanks
Yes they're Method Standards with 0 offset
Ironic you posted this I am shopping right now for the same size tires for my 4th gen....I have the updated bigger brakes...what size are the wheels 17x?
Wheels are 17x8.5 with 0 offset, there's a link to them in the description
Do you have to upgrade the upper and lower control arms? It won’t premature tire wear?
My tires have 45k kms on them and still look pretty good, I'm on factory control arms
Why not run 275x70 17R ? Will fit without trimming ! It’s a 275x70 17R is 32.2inch tall vs 285x70 17R at 32.7 inch tall so your 4Runner would be 1/4 inch not as tall. Of road is 1/4 inch a deal breaker ?
True, but with that logic you could also argue that staying with 265s is almost as good but with better MPG. You also have a bit of extra width and the 285s being more common also means many options for tire choice
Just a question, I could definitely be missing something here, but does the weight of the wheels really have that much of an effect on breaking? Even if your aftermarket setup was something dramatic like 100 lbs more than the stock wheels, it's a small fraction of 4000 lbs, maybe 6000 if you're loaded right up.
Unsprung weight has exponential effects, it's much different than say putting a 100 lb heavier bumper on it
@@CanadianGearhead Interesting, I'll have to do some research
Are you 2.5 on front and back with lift? For these tires? Looking for same concept.
The rear is only 2"
Not sure I understand this comparison. This is comparing 285 vs 265 but they are not on the same wheels. The 285's look like they have more offset than the 265's. Clearance actually gets worse with more offset not better, according to other channels. Why not compare the tire sizes with stock wheels, no lift, no spacers, standard offset, so that we can know the impact of tire size? This is frustrating because my tire shop tells me once they mount them, they are mine. So I need to KNOW if they are going to rub beforehand. I'm only looking to add enough size so that the 4 Runner doesnt look like the tires came off a Honda Civic. Tire Compare lists 285/65-17 as tallest/widest tire for SR5 but a minimum 8in wheel width. Im not looking to spring for wheels after paying $50k for the vehicle. Not sure why Toyota, knowing many people change tires on the 4 Runner, limit the clearance at the body mount and front fender liner when theres so much space elsewhere.
Greetings! Bro do you think with a 2.5” lift and 275/70r17 tyres will be needed to do trimming or will affect the same way 285 affects a V6 4runner? Thanks!
It'll definitely hurt your MPG but maybe not as much. As for trimming, it really depends on your wheel offset, alignment specs etc
@@CanadianGearhead Thanks!
I wanna lift mine plz help me guys
I wanna put 285 on my 4runner, but I'm curious if yours is lifted at all? Mines lifted about 3 extra inches all round.
Mine's lifted a bit over 2"
With the lift and tires did you need to install longer brake lines?
Nope, all OEM
@@CanadianGearhead what is oem?
@@kulutz9565 Original Equipment (from) Manufacturer.
Hell, I'm running 305's on a gen 1 Tundra lol
Im looking for new 33s tires have gone up so much in price. 4 yrs ago my atturo blade XT were $800 for a 295/60/20 now a 33x12.5/20 are $1200. Even budget 33s are now $1000 before tax and mounting
honestly I feel like the world as we know it is ending and now youll have to be rich to enjoy basic things
@@TrayJayRecords whatever i get ill just have to put stocks back on during the winter to save tread.
v8 4 runner? Nice. wow with that kind of mileage you should consider a regear
@@DavidRamirez-fe5dd huh? why would i regear when i have all the power still and still getting 15mpg with 34s? ill get even better mpg and more power back going to a 33
Are V6 Tacomas the same weight as V8 4Runners?
I'd assume they're different
I thought you said you had an offset. But you commented you had 0 offset on your 17× 8.5 wheels
Nope, must have been someone else. These were always 0 offset with 4.75 backspacing
What window visors are you using?
AVS
Would it still rub if you were to go off road?
Maybe a slight rub with the wheel fully stuffed in the fender
Are your methods a zero offset?
Yes they are
Do I have to lift the truck to run on 285s?
Yes, likely at least 2"
what height of lift are you running? I just added a 2.5/1.5 lift on mine and I want to add 285s on OEM 17x7
It's about 2.25" and 2" in the rear
I've been running 285/70/17 falken wildpeak M/Ts for about six months now and I've noticed that they are rubbing quite a bit on the stock upper control arms. Are you running a larger offset wheel or spacers to make this work?
I'm running 0 offset with these wheels, if you're running stock wheels you'll probably need a mild spacer
@@CanadianGearhead Damm, ive really been trying to avoid running spacers. I think I'm gonna try to see if aftermarket upper might fix the issue.
@@CanadianGearhead got an 06 sport v6 with Tacoma struts up front and 285s with 15 offset Wheels and got rub on stock upc at full lock off-road. Recently purchased 06 V8 sport and stuffed same wheels on stock xreas haven’t had it rub upc but thinking it’s bc tires worn about 1/3. Will get a lift and exhaust later.
Does this take premium gas or the lowest one?
It calls for premium but I've always run 87
curious what do you have as a spare tire?
4.0 is much slower off the hop… especially in winter running non-Toyota diff fluid
32s are baby tires gotta upgrade to 285 75 17
Ok.
A lot of money poured into a 4th gen 😂😂😂
Not really. What's wrong with 4th gens?
@@CanadianGearhead nothing at all
Have you priced used 4Runners lately? Especially 4th gens with the V-8. That was the only generation that offerd a V-8. They are in high demand and they hold their value.
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