Dude, the lube is not for the vacuum cup surface!!! That is actually a silicon lube to lubricate the pump O-ring. If you put the silicon on the vacuum cup, you could loose your bikes!
Thank you very much for this recommendation! Just bought a set for my car directly from their factory. Indeed, it's excellent build quality and great product. Thanks again mate.
Just bought the single bike unit for an upcoming trip to Utah. I have to say having my 5,000$ bike trusted to this makes me more than a bit nervous. I do trust your opinion though and have used Aliexpress frequently since seeing one of your earlier videos. I really appreciate the lube comments however. I was going to use it on the suction cups. I will drop another comment after my trip on the 4th to let you guys know how it went. Thanks for the videos!
@@TheLetamu Worked out well. Trip to Utah was windy at the time so it was a bit scary having it up there. But it made it without incident there and back to Vegas. I haven't had a chance to use it again yet. But I trust it and would recommend.
Sin City Cycling Would you use it regularly? Can you share who you bought it from? My concern is when you go riding, leaving the rack on the car and having it stolen.
Check with MV authority that these are legal in your jurisdiction. In some cases not having a mechanical attachment, ie cable, rope or strap, the load is considered unsecured.
I remember the first day we lifted an aeroplane wing with a vacuum lifting rig....seriously twitchy bottoms....but no failures to date and that was 13years ago
I think I have a security solution - lockstraps.com make a 24 foot flat security strap with a stainless steel wire running through it. You could run it through the bike frames and through the windows in a big circle, closing the windows on the strap and lock inside the car. Or a cheaper way would be to get a long padlock lock cable - available up to 10m and do the same, lock in the car. You would need to crack the windows a little bit for this to work, but would be ok as a casual deterrent.
Is there some version where one doesn’t need to remove the front wheels? (I just hate removing my front wheels because of discs) Otherwise, this is pretty awesome
So these don't require any stabilising pole in the centre when driving ? Just wondering if the wind will play with the bike at a speed of 120km ... keen to get one
I use the seasucker and have it mounted on a high performance car...have used it for a year now and numerous fast take offs and not a single issue. Key is clean surface, ideally glass and moisture....all good.
When you drive a SUV with adequate room in the back to store your bikes with front wheels off, wtf would you put them on your roof, unsecured against theft? I often have coffee/meal after rides, so like bike to be securely out of sight and locked. No roof racks for me.
Like I said in the video; clenched butt-cheeks for the first few times, but the versatility is great. I like the idea of using one on a wall, bolting a Wahoo KICKR to the wall beneath it and having the world least practical ZWIFT setup. (But great space-saving!)
...because it probably rides really well. ...and if it's 10 grand it rides even better (of course if you're paying for the quality, not for marketing). Above 10 grand, it's just a fancy customization.
Heh, 5 grand is more like a sweet spot of weight to performance. After that its mostly weight savings and a few bells and whistles. Walmart bikes are mostly garbage. Any bike from there while ridable is no where close to the quality of a Specialized or a Trek or the various other actual bike brands. You can get a good specialized Mountain bike for around 800 dollars, or spend 400 at walmart and the walmart bike will fail in multiple places LOOOOONG before the specialized will even blink. That 800 dollar bike is Aluminum, so its heavier than the more costly bikes that use expensive Carbon for the frame. Lighter bikes ride better and maneuver easier. Then you have to factor in each component on that frame. The brakes on that 800 dollar bike are the kind that squeeze the wheel on both sides to stop. Step up to a slightly more expensive build on the same frame and you get actual rotors and hydraulic brakes and other better components across the board. Step up to a better frame, like Carbon, and you add a lot to the bike for that alone. Usually get some better components too. Then on top of that you can keep stepping up in the carbon bikes to better and better stuff like front shocks that cost 1500 all by themselves and you see where the cost comes from. They even have 1000 dollar wireless shifting now.
Hi China Cycling, if providing an unbiased product review/comparison is your goal I would suggest doing a little more research. For example, SeaSucker originally started making products for the marine market, hence their products use stainless steel throughout and are UV stabilised. By the time SeaSucker moved into the automotive space almost 15 years ago, their vacuum mounts were well-proven given they were originally designed to withstand the harsh saltwater environment. In terms of your reference to SeaSucker popularising the "suction-cup based roof rack for carrying surfboards," this is incorrect. SeaSucker's move into the automotive space began with their bike racks, not the roof racks for carrying surfboards. Also, the reference to SeaSucker using "a large piece of aluminium" on their bike rack is also incorrect, it's not aluminium it's HDPE. Whilst, you mentioned Rassine is a UCI World Tour Sponsor you neglected to mention that SeaSucker is also a UCI World Tour Official Supporter and their products are a UCI Official Licensed Product as is clearly displayed on their website. And finally, as others have mentioned the Lube Tube included in the Rassine bike rack is for pump maintenance, not for providing moisture.
I apologise, I'm a one-man show and have limited resources (time) - but, I realize I have responsibility to fact-check more. I think most of my inaccuracies you pointed out (such as the history of SeaSucker ) don't detract from the review. I will however aim to improve my research. May I ask if you're related to SeaSucker? You seem very knowledgeable.
Oh catch a grip fella your Seasucker history lesson is utterly irrelevant to this review, it's not a comparison, just a guy reviewing the product he already has. This review is way more useful than your pompous contribution.
Dude, the lube is not for the vacuum cup surface!!! That is actually a silicon lube to lubricate the pump O-ring. If you put the silicon on the vacuum cup, you could loose your bikes!
The truth is always in the comments.I'm an idiot.
@@ChinaCycling I agree
I got the dual suction cup version..
Took on 2 rides...so far so good,
Don’t forget to Lube up mate
Thank you very much for this recommendation! Just bought a set for my car directly from their factory. Indeed, it's excellent build quality and great product. Thanks again mate.
Can you please post the link where to buy directly from the factory? Thanks
5:15 - Auto focus, focused on autos. What were you expecting?
Just bought the single bike unit for an upcoming trip to Utah. I have to say having my 5,000$ bike trusted to this makes me more than a bit nervous. I do trust your opinion though and have used Aliexpress frequently since seeing one of your earlier videos. I really appreciate the lube comments however. I was going to use it on the suction cups. I will drop another comment after my trip on the 4th to let you guys know how it went. Thanks for the videos!
Awesome! Looking forward to your opinion.
How did it work out?
@@TheLetamu Worked out well. Trip to Utah was windy at the time so it was a bit scary having it up there. But it made it without incident there and back to Vegas. I haven't had a chance to use it again yet. But I trust it and would recommend.
Sin City Cycling awesome. Appreciate the reply 👍👍
Sin City Cycling Would you use it regularly? Can you share who you bought it from? My concern is when you go riding, leaving the rack on the car and having it stolen.
Check with MV authority that these are legal in your jurisdiction. In some cases not having a mechanical attachment, ie cable, rope or strap, the load is considered unsecured.
the lube isnt for the suction cup surface its for the pump
I never knew that, thanks!
@@ChinaCycling lmfao 😂 why would you put lube on the suction cup surface itself makes sense to keep that area as clean as possible.
I remember the first day we lifted an aeroplane wing with a vacuum lifting rig....seriously twitchy bottoms....but no failures to date and that was 13years ago
I think I have a security solution - lockstraps.com make a 24 foot flat security strap with a stainless steel wire running through it. You could run it through the bike frames and through the windows in a big circle, closing the windows on the strap and lock inside the car. Or a cheaper way would be to get a long padlock lock cable - available up to 10m and do the same, lock in the car. You would need to crack the windows a little bit for this to work, but would be ok as a casual deterrent.
I was just thinking the same thing, while watching the video.
leaving your windows open a little is a bigger security risk
The stainless steel wire would need to be thin. So thin that could be cut with pliers. A deterrent against a casual thief, maybe.
Is there some version where one doesn’t need to remove the front wheels? (I just hate removing my front wheels because of discs) Otherwise, this is pretty awesome
Get yourself a brake caliper spacer and you’ll never have an issue with it again.
So these don't require any stabilising pole in the centre when driving ? Just wondering if the wind will play with the bike at a speed of 120km ... keen to get one
@ 00:48 can anyone identify the car on the top right?
Probably an '05 Ford Thunderbird
@@ersindeger5155 thanks
I use the seasucker and have it mounted on a high performance car...have used it for a year now and numerous fast take offs and not a single issue. Key is clean surface, ideally glass and moisture....all good.
When you drive a SUV with adequate room in the back to store your bikes with front wheels off, wtf would you put them on your roof, unsecured against theft?
I often have coffee/meal after rides, so like bike to be securely out of sight and locked. No roof racks for me.
Thats actually the only downfall of these racks for me - longtime user already, but leaving bikes on a roof makes me scared, haha!
I'm tempted to get one mate.
Like I said in the video; clenched butt-cheeks for the first few times, but the versatility is great. I like the idea of using one on a wall, bolting a Wahoo KICKR to the wall beneath it and having the world least practical ZWIFT setup. (But great space-saving!)
How about PALFA suction cup? Is it ok?
Not heard of that one. I assume many of the designs are very similar.
Thank you for great review
Scares the crap out of me to put my bikes on this, but I’m going to have to. Speed limits of 80-85mph
The suctions work, until the weather temps change or the rubber deteriorates...then "pop"...there goes your bikes!
Here is the TreeFrog rack website, which has TUV German certification, so it is legal to use them on the European roads!
treefrogracks.eu
Not available in India
Wish someone will test the same rack with a heavy e mtb. Rassine LX400A should load 28 kgs. Let’s see how it works.
I have the sea sucker on my mountain bike it weighs 30lb and it works perfect. I have it over 2 year all ready
He showed someone hanging off of a wall on them 😂
Man, i really love your video. Do you have interest do some bike business together? I am from China and currently study at Michigan State University.
Hi Tim. What are you up to these days?
First question why the hell is a bike 5 grand ?
...because it probably rides really well. ...and if it's 10 grand it rides even better (of course if you're paying for the quality, not for marketing). Above 10 grand, it's just a fancy customization.
Heh, 5 grand is more like a sweet spot of weight to performance. After that its mostly weight savings and a few bells and whistles. Walmart bikes are mostly garbage. Any bike from there while ridable is no where close to the quality of a Specialized or a Trek or the various other actual bike brands. You can get a good specialized Mountain bike for around 800 dollars, or spend 400 at walmart and the walmart bike will fail in multiple places LOOOOONG before the specialized will even blink. That 800 dollar bike is Aluminum, so its heavier than the more costly bikes that use expensive Carbon for the frame. Lighter bikes ride better and maneuver easier. Then you have to factor in each component on that frame. The brakes on that 800 dollar bike are the kind that squeeze the wheel on both sides to stop. Step up to a slightly more expensive build on the same frame and you get actual rotors and hydraulic brakes and other better components across the board. Step up to a better frame, like Carbon, and you add a lot to the bike for that alone. Usually get some better components too. Then on top of that you can keep stepping up in the carbon bikes to better and better stuff like front shocks that cost 1500 all by themselves and you see where the cost comes from. They even have 1000 dollar wireless shifting now.
Hi China Cycling, if providing an unbiased product review/comparison is your goal I would suggest doing a little more research. For example, SeaSucker originally started making products for the marine market, hence their products use stainless steel throughout and are UV stabilised. By the time SeaSucker moved into the automotive space almost 15 years ago, their vacuum mounts were well-proven given they were originally designed to withstand the harsh saltwater environment. In terms of your reference to SeaSucker popularising the "suction-cup based roof rack for carrying surfboards," this is incorrect. SeaSucker's move into the automotive space began with their bike racks, not the roof racks for carrying surfboards. Also, the reference to SeaSucker using "a large piece of aluminium" on their bike rack is also incorrect, it's not aluminium it's HDPE. Whilst, you mentioned Rassine is a UCI World Tour Sponsor you neglected to mention that SeaSucker is also a UCI World Tour Official Supporter and their products are a UCI Official Licensed Product as is clearly displayed on their website. And finally, as others have mentioned the Lube Tube included in the Rassine bike rack is for pump maintenance, not for providing moisture.
I apologise, I'm a one-man show and have limited resources (time) - but, I realize I have responsibility to fact-check more. I think most of my inaccuracies you pointed out (such as the history of SeaSucker ) don't detract from the review. I will however aim to improve my research. May I ask if you're related to SeaSucker? You seem very knowledgeable.
Oh catch a grip fella your Seasucker history lesson is utterly irrelevant to this review, it's not a comparison, just a guy reviewing the product he already has. This review is way more useful than your pompous contribution.