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I like when bad guys end each other from sheer stupidity or hate... when good characters kill each other by accident or sure stupidity, it’s just sad. She didn’t deserve it. Auterism strikes again.
Something that always bothered me was how Juno was portrayed as bad for killing her friend. She just got jumped by two monsters, is in fight or flight mode, and the friend wants to sneakily say wazzaap. I would like to see anyone who would go through that and not swing at the thing they heard moving behind them.
Juno wasn't bad for that (although good luck living with yourself after that) but she was a bitch for having an affair with her friends husband when they had a kid together and everything
I don't blame her, when I saw the scene was a genuine "oh no". However, how she responded is what I blame her for. Overall though, yes... I think Juno is a bitch
I ALWAAAAAAYS hated Beth for that. Like bruh... You could have been a fairly decent fighter against these things but after that dumb asf move, I guess not lmfao.
Yeah but maybe it was because they were scared to speak because they know those things attack sound?? Idk if her death is before or after they learn the info
On the matter of echolocation - interestingly enough, echolocation is a learnable skill for present-day homo sapiens. There are a number of recorded cases of people who were born blind or lost their vision very early in life who have developed forms of echolocation. It appears that their brains were able to re-wire themselves so that auditory information activates the visual cortex of the brain.
I used to live in a borderline hoarder house, and would use my sense of hearing to walk around the junk at night. I wonder if that is like some form of echolocation? Even if things had been moved around by one of the animals or something I would "see" it in the dark. If I wore earbuds or there was music on too loud I would lose this ability, and it felt like walking around with a blindfold on in comparison.
When I was a kid I was on a tour in an old catacombs in Pilsner, Czech. When we were in the centre, lost somwhere in the labyrinth, they turned the lights off. I almost shat myself (but laughed as well wtf weird kid). Can't imagine going through it now 😅
Yeah.. kinda makes me think this dude either made the story up or did it on purpose as he said he'd already watched this film not long before going caving. I mean how does one get separated far enough from everyone that they get completely lost in the dark unless they did it intentionally?
I remember a story about a guy who got trapped in a cave-in in Mammoth Cave for a couple of days. The real problem wasn't food or water (which he had plenty of) but the deafening silence. It was so quiet that he could hear the blood rushing through the veins and arteries in his ears which was so loud he couldn't sleep so he kept smacking the cave wall just to make some kind of noise. Otherwise he'd have gone completely nuts by the time he was found.
Fun fact this movie is loosely based off a book of the same name by Jeff Long. The creatures are an off shoot of ancient men that hid underground during the ice age I think, and adapted to life underground. The surface world finds tunnels and cave systems that span nearly the entire world and under the oceans and colonize them, then find the creatures have massive tribes that live there. It's a pretty good horror book, but can be kind of long winded at times. Worth a read if you like the creatures and want some more back story and lore about them and an overall better story than the movie lol
I really enjoyed the book actually. How they discovered they had formed their own societies and developed culture wasn't even touched upon in the movie. I would watch a sequel as long as they expanded on the book. I don't think it even was a true horror novel.
Oh yeah, and the cave people were a global thing. At one time they were a large population, hadn't lost the ability to think critically, and colonized everywhere there was a cave system. The book still has issues, but it way better than the movie. The only similarity is that a number of people are killed by some sort of rat people in caves
Hot tip for city folk out there: if you're hiking in the woods and come across a dead animal that looks like it was killed by another animal but wasn't actually consumed, run, get out of there fast because that means a wild animal is killing for pleasure which generally means it's diseased.
@@Konghammer1Or, and this is pretty interesting but also scary, Predators will sometimes kill prey but leave it behind so that other Predators won’t try and poach their kills from them. Mountain Lions do this for Wolves IIRC and Cougars do it for Coyotes. What I wonder though is that could a Predator do this for a Human? It’s pretty half and half on whether Predators see us as fellow Predators as all so who knows lol
I was thinking the same thing : I didn't watch the movie, but the pieces that were shown makes me think immediately of Goblin Slayer. A live adaptation should totally looks like this !
The major rule of not getting into shit like this is not have friends who like to have “extra fun.” That’s how you end up in an abandon cabin in the woods, an untraversed plot of woods, a haunted house in some small town, etc. sadly I have a few of these kinds of friends.
@@dwighttheislander7369 you will have to keep waiting till you die then. Even after that pretty sure, well, there is no after. Cmon man grow up. No such thing as ghosts and stuff. Unlike the species in this movie which is very real
As a kid I watched this in theatre and remember thinking that the old equipment still stuck in the ceiling was indication that these creatures were other people lost in the cave and were forced to adapt to the dark. Looking back I guess it was just indication that people have been going missing there in the cave and probably eaten, serving as a bit of foreshadowing rather than explaining the creature’s origins lol
[Spoiler for The Cave] In the movie The Cave, it's exactly that. A team within the last 100 years went in to said cave and was mutated by something down there. It follows a modern team finding this out. Not a bad movie in my opinion(:
I watched a behind the scenes video about this movie and found it interesting that in the scene where the women first see the creature, their screams of terror are genuine. The director purposely didn’t let them see the monsters in full makeup until that scene was shot so their fear would be authentic.
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Same reason sky diving is fun I mean shit we think being an astronaut is fun but that is absolutely fucking terrifying. Stuck in a small space, no way out, oxygen is very much limited, you can't leave or you will die, and your chances of survival are in the hands of a person tens of thousands of kilometres away.
@@iljaradenkovs7150 yeah but these guys literally crawl in spaces barely able to fit them imagine being stuck and slowly dying down there if rather die in space or skydiving either way would be better than that shit
I love spelunking~ Just not so much swimming in neckdeep water that must have bat poop in it. ^^” Nor do I enjoy the occasional spooky sound or endless black pits you occasionally see.
@@wildspirewarrior211 You'd think we wouldn't be stupid enough to do such things. Turns out we really are, MrBallen a youtuber talks about many stories like this.
If you walk out into the woods far enough (at least in my experience), you'll find all kinds of weird, hidden and undiscovered things. Nature hides a great many secrets yet. ...but tbh it's usually people trying to hide something, or hide FROM something.
@@RoanokeGaming We fear the unknown the most. Unkown+threatening+uncanny valley=terrifying enemy. The degenerates in this movie, necromorphs, zombies, and Clickers are all good examples.
Regarding the smelling it’s possible the cave dwellers couldn’t differentiate between themselves and us. Also if infertility is an issue then the dead female might be the end of the line for them
@@fakename3891 I'm not a man, so I honestly don't know the answer to this, but I find it hard to believe that any human male would be able to get and maintain an erection in these circumstances. Not just the gross factor but the absolute terror from impending death. Any men want to speculate on whether or not it's possible? I'm genuinely curious.
@@dostagirl9551 ⚠️ NSFW: In the book a group of females go topside find a boy who was if I remember correctly 12. They used manual stimulation and fellatio. They succeed. Can't speak for all men but even if you don't want it stimulation is stimulation and the body reacts. I've heard of the same thing happening to women during unwanted sex.
Kay so if the Descent and the Ritual has taught me anything, its DONT GO EXPLORING NEW DANGEROUS PLACES WITH A CLOSE GROUP OF FRIENDS AS A WAY TO ESCAPE GRIEF
@@Ehh97 It's okay. ^^ Didn't realize it was a mistake because there is a movie called The Forest where the main character was grieving over her lost sister. Though the movie wasn't exactly good and was kind of comical at some points.
That's why going out to shop for expensive shit no one needs, going to the bar to have drinks and pick up hot guys to bang later is a better form of healing in the modern era
Hey, I actually noticed the way their skulls indent around the facial region up to the upper cheeks where their ears are! This is something you see in owls, actually.. That amplifies their hearing significantly without having protruding ears that would give away their location at night with a moving silhouette to potential prey. Of course, these things have protruding ears of sorts- but its not like they needed to worry about that too much.
I hope that video goes out of its way to point out the inefficient and sometimes backwards features of the human body, like how the cells in our retinas are "installed" backward and how the knee is held together with just a few flimsy ligaments that can't self-repair.
Look, some humans can survive being shot through the heart, only grow hair in a few places, and fashion new limbs from plastic and metal. Of course Humans are mythological cryptids, we just don't categorize ourselves as that!
@damian martinez Humans are totally fictional. we just believe ourselves to be real. We're probably fairy tale creatures in a book and are living in a sub-narative universe. 2020 is the climax of the third book and we're almost at the epilogue.
Hold on, so you watched a movie about friends cave diving and getting to know the local cave cannibals, while slicing each other apart and hallucinating about escaping and you still went cave diving?!!
I showed this movie to my mom without telling her it was a monster movie. Just letting her think it is simply a type of catastrophy survival movie. At one point she was like: "Is that a Gollum or something?"
I've always thought that the cave monsters were humans that got trapped and regressed, evolution wise, to monsters. I'd never thought of them as cavemen that never left the caves and never became "human" but became something completely different. I mean the evidence for that is there idk why I never made that connection.
Well it's a bit ridiculous really, it'd take like millions of years to change to a form of human that uses echolocation to hunt. This isn't something you get to within 100 generations, the adaptation is too big. Look at humans 50.000 years ago and now, we're almost the same.
@@taserrrthen again, environmental pressures didn't exactly push us to favorize new traits with evolution as not only we are rather well adapted for many environments we didn't really have to biologically adapt to changes, but instead technologically do so. Though I do slightly agree
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I'm not sure we can say these things would be stronger than humans, because in so many altercations the girls, especially Sarah and Juno, are able to overpower and kill them. That, and the crawlers tend to use surprise attacks, which to me would indicate they aren't very strong.
I don't think this is a matter of strength so much as other factors. The humans can plainly see and combat the monsters in the light with precision, which gives them an advantage; The monsters using ambush tactics doesn't so much represent a weakness so much as a well developed sense of predatory instinct and self preservation, since catching prey defenseless minimizes damage sustained to the predator. Raw physical strength isn't exactly gauged here, except for the fact that that the monsters can boulder across cave walls and ceilings, which does suggest a large amount of training and strength because people who do that are crazy and usually super wirey from years of practice.
Massive phenotype alterations can happen in relatively short periods of time. Remember all Dog breeds are less than 10,000 years old. I understand that that example is one of selective breeding.
Granted, breeding and raising a dog takes several years and not several decades or centuries as with humans. But, it's certainly possible to change humans by simply putting them in situations over time. Also, with dogs, they all tend to follow the same patterns unless we look at flatfaced ones. But it's essentially the same as picking someone with down syndrome and referring to them as a new breed of person.
@@alphadoge3604 humans are already very genetically varied and only came into existence in their current form roughly 300,000 years ago. We'll keep changing until there's more than one again, it was always going to drift apart at some point.
@@alphadoge3604 itd just take 14 years to raise a generation in prehistoric time, I guess 7 times longer than dogs but humans can also selectively breed a lot better than other animals due to higher self awareness.
Human generations are longer, so evolution is slower. Humans on average can produce max 10-12 offspring (of which in the past only less than half survived to adulthood) during a lifetime, while dogs can potentially have 1-5 offspring every year
It's funny that he brought up Dog Soldiers since The Descent is the same director and team. The subtext that he said he didn't really understand is that Juno was having an affair with the husband (Great example of "show, don't tell."). This is actually a really good, and really smart movie filmed on a low budget. The camera work is great, when they're in tight spaces they don't just take the easy approach and cut a hole in the "rock" for the camera, for example once the attached it to a piece of wood and crammed it in there with the actors to give the viewer the same feeling of claustrophobic feeling that the character is having. There are several shots of the monsters that you can easily miss if you're not paying attention, and they don't zoom in and do a loud boom sound effect like most horror films. I highly recommend giving this one a watch for the artistry behind it alone.
This makes sense. The last 9 months, I'm essentially living in a lightness cave called m bedroom where nutrition is pizza and salty noodle packs.My eyesight and cognitive function are rapidly deteriorating.
@@michaelmanrahan8059 look at my op im fumbling repeatedly, im not sure why i dont proof read before posting anymore, im devolving! humans aren't meant to live alone, especially in a cave.
The thing with Beth's death is there is no fault in either of their actions. Beth would likely be too in shock to speak, wanting to get to her friend. Juno killed her by accident. However, Juno lied about it and left her friend for dead. She should have just admitted "It was an accident" and/or put Beth out of her misery.
@@b33lze6u6 Or female entomology student: A new friend! :D (Followed by disappointment after realizing it was just dirt...) Oh! Or female lizard: DINNER! (Also followed by disappointment after realizing it was just dirt...)
Minor point of order on the early description of the divergence: ancient human ancestors likely didn't go too deep into caves because they didn't have much need and light would have been an issue. Yes you can take a crude fire torch in deeper for light or even start a campfire if you have the wood, but eventually that would become dangerous between gasses and smoke, not to mention start having logistical issues maintaining the light. So for some reason, the ancestors of this offshoot felt a need to go deeper into the caves, and also survived in there. Part of me wants to speculate the ice age might have been involved, as I could see ancient humans running out of wood and furs in a cave with a natural heat source choosing to go deeper for that reason before finding a way to survive somehow.
I actually blame this movie for my irrational hatred of the Falmer from Elder Scrolls. When I first encountered them in Skyrim, I was genuinely terrified of the creatures. I actively avoided any mission or exploration that might have led to me encountering them. Eventually though, as my skills in the arts of an arcane assassin developed, I became exceptionally competent in hunting them.
@@samuelbishop3316 I remember The Falmer and I like Skyrim too it's my favorite Elder Scrolls game my Argonian Dovahkiin character sometimes gets killed easily by the Falmer but luckily he's a Werewolf and can easily attack them better in his Werewolf form.
I played a month or so of Skyrim without ever encountering the Falmer, (I guess I just got lucky with the particular quests I and exploring I was doing not leading me there? lol) and by then I thought I pretty much had all the mobs logged in my head so when I saw one for the first time in one of those watery caves, blue mist clouding my ability to see it patrolling it felt like an actual fucking nightmare
I don't usually do the "read the book" thing. But in this case, you should read the book these movies are based on. It goes into so much more detail and works to build an entire world as it were around the creatures, as well as humanity's response to them.
I'm very interested in the book, though I have to say I'm glad they abstained from divulging any real info on the dwellers in the movie. Lends itself well to the pacing as well as getting your imagination to run wild as to what dreadful shit led to them being what they are.
@@fraundakelmbrilpondaprost90 I agree completely, but the book did it very well. The reveal in the book was basically done as like a worldwide anthropological/ genetic research into it. Kinda cool.
@@Ryan-bc6cb Yeah, from other input I've read it seems to be very different in spirit from the film. I'm definitely not arguing that the concept of exploring the dwellers isn't cool as hell (a big part of why I want to read it), just that I think for the film itself, the mystery was a good call.
The presence of the blood pool is one of the biggest tells without much thinking that this is probably a form of hell. I highly doubt that the monsters would be able to kill enough to maintain something like that.
"I know a great idea, I'll get my friends to explore an uncharted hole inside the earth just to name it to my traumatized friend" -a dumb fucking idea.
Nah she just wanted to explore it for the rush. But was probably too chicken shit to go by herself and knew her friends wouldn't want to. So she lied about where they were going. The fact that she didn't even register where they were secretly means she's also a dumbass. Though I guess the park rangers might try to stop her and probably wouldn't be able to save them in time even if they knew. Still Juno sucks
@@InvaderGIR98 as far as I know, there are communities of cave explorers that share non-explored cave locations for eventual mapping. She likely found it through one of those communities and decided to give it a shot in the dumbest way possible. Mostly to hog the glory.
I'm from Scotland and can almost pinpoint where some of those outdoor scenes were shot. For any Amrican viewers, Scotland is a very small country and if you live there, you usually know the roads/hills/fields by the fauna.
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Neanderthals weren't 'stupid cave men' they had a different type of intelligence that we might look down on, but they werent stupid. What are those examples of a progenitor of Neanderthals the Hedielburg man? Larger, stronger, and with larger brains than neanderthals or homo sapiens?
Didn't know there was a "happier" ending to this. The one I saw ends with her smiling at the hallucination of her daughter and a birthday cake as the subhumans crawl along the walls and ceiling.
I'd personally argue the alternate ending is way darker. Sarah escapes, but now she lives with not only the grief of her family, but also the grief that comes with the loss of all her friends and guilt from dooming Juno. I love the alternate ending because it's one of the few horror endings where escaping the monsters doesn't equate to any form of relief.
@@Rizwaan122 Because literally anything can get a sequel these days, it's apparently way easier than trying to pitch something original, 'brand recognition' or some lazy shit like that
I love these movies bc it's a horror with a female cast and they're not all useless scream queens but actually fight back. It's badass! Had no idea there was an English version though! Now I need to see that.
If I recall correctly, just some time within the past 5 years, archeologists discovered some pretty convincing evidence that our understanding of the fossil record is way off, and that even complex evolution can happen much, MUCH faster than we originally thought. It still takes a long time, don’t get me wrong, but if my memory isn’t too far off, it turns out that evolution which we thought took tens of millions of years, only took hundreds of thousands. If I can find where I got this information, I’ll be sure to post a link to it.
I think it mostly depends on what’s evolving. Like evolving some extra minor bone probably takes a pretty short amount of time relatively but then Dolphins going fully aquatic will take a long ass time.
@@ManiacallyQuiet I’ve found one of my sources, there were at least two others though, so I’ll keep looking. The link is at the bottom, what this study has found is that extensive alterations to genetic structures can occur via entirely natural means, 15 times faster than previously believed. University of Oxford. (2015, October 27). Chicken study reveals evolution can happen much faster than thought: New study of chickens overturns popular assumption that evolution is only visible over long time scales. ScienceDaily. www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/10/151027213417.htm
@@ManiacallyQuiet Found another! This one shows how birds, plants, and spiders in urban environments are evolving with relatively incredible speed to better survive in human cities. They’ve been developing physical changes that allow them to find food more easily in an environment of steel and concrete, learning to use human devices to their advantage, and even developing genetically enforced behaviors that make them more endearing to humans. www.nytimes.com/2016/07/24/opinion/sunday/evolution-is-happening-faster-than-we-thought.amp.html?0p19G=2103
I love how you originally think Juno was Sarah's truest friend for being the only one there at the hospital w/her, visibly devistated for her friend, when in fact, those actions were the result of self-serving betrayal - being that she'd been screwing her "bff's" husband! Juno was only there( & inconsolable) out of concern for her lover - not her "friend".
You’re a lot like a feminist I know... LoL. A bit more logical though but similar. Great sense of plot analysis and savvy. I felt similar but didn’t deduce it so well. 😏
@@jagerdergroe8604 I believe so yes, watched a documentary on them aaaages ago. Imagine all these different types of hominids(or whatever) were still around today, it'd be super strange.
I remember watching this movie years ago but don’t remember Juno and Sarah being killing machines. Imagine if they teamed up instead of turning on each other
Already subbed to Roanoke Tales. If I ever went caving I'd bring all of the batteries and all of the flashlights. In fact that is all I would bring, I'd be loaded down with flashlights and batteries, flares, glow sticks, survival candles, I would have head lamp lights strapped to every part of my body. It would be like a concert in that frigging cave. I might die from exposure or starvation but I would have light damn it!
You know the worst part of all this is that this scenario is actually super realistic, there 100% could be a species of human out there in the woods/caves/ocean/jungle that lives like this and would do this. After all, there's no way _ALL_ of the woods behind grandma's house could be explored...
@@IzzyAndAndy yes, but some people become vegan correct? It affects them of course, but if you have like, 10 generations worth of vegans, you'll have a genetically different being that may not even be able to process meat at all. So when someone lives solely off of meat, it's probably a less drastic change that happens over a long time, until that body can support itself.
@@alphadoge3604 no..... no. That's not how it would happen. You need proteins and other things from meats, and being a vegan you can substitute it, but your body still needs the same things someone who eats meat would need. So it wouldn't change anything about our anatomy, maybe just turning into a tradition instead but no. They'd definitely still be able to digest and eat meat. We can also digest and eat small amounts of dirt, but it's not like we're actively snacking on some of that sweet soil. They'd also maybe have different taste, but that's also linked to just where you grew up anyway so it's not like they'd be any different than people from another country.
@@alphadoge3604 you (a human) can get all the nutrients you need being vegan. You (a human) CANNOT get all the nutrients you need strictly from meat. Veganism isn’t an equivalent example in any way, especially because raw veganism (no modern vegan replacements, sticky what you yourself can grow and harvest) is statistically ineffective and even dangerous for some people because of the lack of nutrients you receive.
Great review & study! I "accidentally" saw The Descent as part of a double feature at the drive-in. It showed after 28 Weeks later I believe. Glad we stayed! I don't remember seeing any commercials or any other promotional stuff for it's release. We were blown away by it! What a cool concept. Oddly, the cut we saw had the European ending, not the US cut. I still watch this & part 2 about once a year.
@@yetanotherretroreview4476 Oblivion takes place in Cyrodiil, otherwise known as the "Heartland". Instead of Falmer, they used Zombies and such. The Falmer in Skyrim are a completely different thing. They were Snow Elves that fled the Nords who were attacking them, and seeked help from the Dwemer(AKA Dwarves, and also known as Deep Elves). The Dwemer then forced them to eat a certain type of Mushroom only found in "Blackreach"(the underground of Skyrim), which after the Dwemer disappeared mysteriously, they began to adapt to the darkness of Blackreach. So yeah, a bunch of lore on the Falmer.
They would already be mostly extinct. And would die out shortly no matter what those girls did. Genetic bottle neck. Not enough people. In the book, the cave people were worldwide.
@@fluffyone1882 True, not enough of those things. Only 20 of them there... yeah, definitely not. Only thing to gain by their continued existence would be some biological science and stuff
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The Cave (2005) actually has a very similar, and even more interesting, concept of devolution. It's a similar movie scenario, but the mutations are enabled by a symbiotic pathogen that mutates the hosts to better fit their environment by snatching genes from other animals in the environment (ie. in a partially flooded cave system, it causes them to develop gills to supplement their lungs and echolocation to replace their vision, along with claws and bat-like wings).
Fun fact about Scotland is that it sits on the Great Glenn fault, which is a Strike-Slip fault, means that it runs side-by-side and thus can't make mountains under normal circumstances. Something similar has happened on the island of Newfoundland in Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada, in Northeastern America. Considering plate tectonics and continental drift, and the only real mountainous regions of Northeastern Ameroca this means that at one point, Scotland was indeed a part of the Appalachian Mountain Range.
It does. Also explains why, when Scottish people started settling down in the Appalachian ranges they would say it was because it reminded them of Scotland.
@skeptically pissed I'm just saying evolution is not random of course it effected by environment but it's programmed from beginning to finally reach to humans
There is no such thing as a “de-evolution”. Evolution has just one direction - towards more fit for the environment. “More evolved” does not mean “better” or “smarter” or “more complex”, just “better suited for survival”. That can be smarter, dumber, simpler, more complex, weaker, stronger - whatever fits the environment an organism lives in better, and rates its chances of survival higher.
Devolution does exist and evolution doesn't always work out for all the members of a species because some members don't evolve and get left behind. Or devolution is a mutation that makes the host worse.
First of all, observing a single organism, or a subset of a species does not work in term of evolution. Second, a mutation that makes a species maladapted will also cause it to die off. It didn't devolve. Dying off and making more space for lineages that DID adapt is PART of the evolution.
@@MasterNabber I think de-evolution is just like evolution but you need to lose something. like penguins. They became flightless but in return they become a great swimmer
This was a very fun video to watch. The movies were good but the books were amazing. To answer the problem with them getting to America. In the books there is a massive cave system that spans even under the oceans. There are thousands of these creatures known as the Hadal. They also kidnapped humans on a regular basis as slaves for breeding or labor. They are shockingly organized even having cities. The author does go into great detail on how they came to be with a pretty crazy twist that I won't spoil. The books are horrifying and honestly my favorite series. The first book is called The Descent the second is The Deeper written by Jeff Long. We are still waiting on the third.
@@Emistotle ayyo thanks man i havent been kept up with the forest since the 2019 trailer, i hope the guns in this game have realistic mechanics like say tarkov
I think they used cheetah, pig, and hyena calls to make the communication of those cave monsters. By the way in case you were curious, the mountains in Scotland used to be connected to the appellations when North America and Europe were still together. Interesting considering some of the folklore has very big parallels.
The ending to the sequel made me laugh and then go « what the fuck »😂. One thing I know, I for sure wouldn’t even be down there for any reason. Just because it’s undiscovered by modern civilization, doesn’t mean no one lives there. Also, I sure as HELL wouldn’t go back down there knowing all my friends never came back.
@@missantonia14goldsby I mean, I guess. You always got a choice tho. Plus she already wasn’t in her right mind after the first time so by law they’d have to get her some help before having her make those types of important decisions.
I mean, it seems like she doesn't have any choice from the summary. Like...they found Juno's blood on her. She was going to jail otherwise. But yeah, everything in that summary sounds like a batshit, terrible movie.
Extending that caves mess up sound note: Many caves muffle sound due to their stone, limestone for example is porous and messes up sound because it acts like a sound diffuser but caves with a less porous rock gives you those echoes. Andesite caves for example, can carry sounds deep into their recesses.
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"Troglophiles, not to be confused with trogloxines, moving in and out of caves, like bats, or troglobites, which cannot exist outside of caves, or are permanent cave dwellers, " Or troglodites, the creatures from greek myth, or Troglodytae, the people mentioned by Herodotus in Histories, who dwelled around Lybia, eating meat raw, and were the fastest runners of all the humans, or... you get the point. Oh, and if you want, "Trogloditae" would mean "cave-goer" in English, could be a good middle ground between Trogloxines and Troglobites. Or something like that. My greek is a tad rusty, and mostly unused. And on the patreon rule change (I'm NOT a patron!), completely fair.
Been Waiting for this One! This cave cannibal creatures movie genuinely *terrified* me There was also another cave movie that explores an ecosystem full of symbiotic enhancing virus - edit the name ia literally 'the cave'
Juno had an affair with Sarah’s husband. That’s why Juno cried in the hospital and also why she tried to get them all together again out of guilt. After Juno accidentally kills Beth, Sarah’s truest friend, and lies about it - Sarah turns on Juno, Sarah finds out about the affair through Beth because remember Beth took Junos necklace during the attack. The necklace has a quote her husband lived by inscribed on it.
Roanoke: They would likely be stronger than your adult male. Also Roanoke : Female X Y and C overpowers said creatures pretty much any time in the movie. Hmhm...
@@thegoodfather1177 Legit reminds me of Doomsday. Except he usually adapted after a ressurection. Somebody needs to explain how he adapted ressurection. I want that.
@@TheKing-qz9wd from what i can gather doomsday gained the abilty to adapt from being constanly cloned from a baby that constanly got murderd in one of the harshest envoirments in the universe prehistoric krypton for decades at probably a baby per day the best biological guess i can make is that some special set of doomsdays cells likely repurposed ones responsible for "reproduction" adapted the abilty to upon death identitfy the cause of death and rapidly mutate these cells to be immune to that fate again these few cells would leave doomsdays corps by rot blood or saliva etc etc then find a safe envoirment then regrow slowly into another doomsday kind of like how orks reprouduce in warhammer 40k but unless someone else creates them there is never naturally more then one doomsday and like the orks doomsday has genetic memeory so every natural doomsday is a mental contiuntation of the previous one the odd thing is no one in to my knowledge in the dc universe has found doomsday regenrating somewhere after death or found some half formed doomsday
@William King yeah the orks genetic memory is only for technology while doomsdays only gives him the past memories and personality of doomsday fun facy doomsday has experinced shifts in his intelligence after death sometimes even reaching full sapieance but ironically this makes him weaker as superman says it makes him unable to fight without restraint like a wild beast due to being aware of fear and pain
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Sup, this movie was pretty good ngl
I’m so glad you went over this series cuz the movies were great and the weird mutant humans were so Kool
Also the reason Paul gets so personal is cause he's cheating on his wife with her
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Moral of the story: Don't quietly approach someone in a blood rage from behind. You're asking to get hit at this point.
Don’t sleep with yours best friends husband
I like when bad guys end each other from sheer stupidity or hate... when good characters kill each other by accident or sure stupidity, it’s just sad. She didn’t deserve it. Auterism strikes again.
@@nickolausafon5458 auterism?
The moral I got was don’t leave home XD
@@shinsukecorbin425 we all do it?
Something that always bothered me was how Juno was portrayed as bad for killing her friend. She just got jumped by two monsters, is in fight or flight mode, and the friend wants to sneakily say wazzaap. I would like to see anyone who would go through that and not swing at the thing they heard moving behind them.
Juno did nothing wrong, main protagonists however was a major bitch
Juno wasn't bad for that (although good luck living with yourself after that) but she was a bitch for having an affair with her friends husband when they had a kid together and everything
Most sane people would agree with this. In her friends defense, safety in numbers and now there is one less...
@@fluffyone1882 well in book that decision fucked her up. Now she is alone in cave.
I don't blame her, when I saw the scene was a genuine "oh no". However, how she responded is what I blame her for. Overall though, yes... I think Juno is a bitch
I can completely agree with Beth’s death, why would she just sneak up behind Juno like that, she was askin to get ganked
I agree when you seeing someone kill like that why would you approach them quietly
She deserved it
I ALWAAAAAAYS hated Beth for that. Like bruh... You could have been a fairly decent fighter against these things but after that dumb asf move, I guess not lmfao.
True, junno's guard is so active and you would approac someone just like that
Yeah but maybe it was because they were scared to speak because they know those things attack sound?? Idk if her death is before or after they learn the info
On the matter of echolocation - interestingly enough, echolocation is a learnable skill for present-day homo sapiens. There are a number of recorded cases of people who were born blind or lost their vision very early in life who have developed forms of echolocation. It appears that their brains were able to re-wire themselves so that auditory information activates the visual cortex of the brain.
very good point
I used to live in a borderline hoarder house, and would use my sense of hearing to walk around the junk at night. I wonder if that is like some form of echolocation? Even if things had been moved around by one of the animals or something I would "see" it in the dark. If I wore earbuds or there was music on too loud I would lose this ability, and it felt like walking around with a blindfold on in comparison.
@@lobsterbark That's probably more just having intimate familiarity with the surroundings.
@@planescaped That doesn't explain how hearing helped me navigate.
@@lobsterbark OMG have you seen the movie Daredevil?! 😑😂
Saw these and immediately taught “ Falmer”
I believe they used this film as part of the design inspiration.
Honestly, I could see that, just comparing the two, the only differences are their intelligence and the fact the Falmer don't even have eyes
I thought I was the only one who thought that
*what are you doing step snow elf?*
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Dude...lost in a cave and no light...I’m not a skiddish man but that would reduce me to tears pretty quick.
I think that would be enough to make anyone sleep with a light on for the rest of their life.
When I was a kid I was on a tour in an old catacombs in Pilsner, Czech. When we were in the centre, lost somwhere in the labyrinth, they turned the lights off. I almost shat myself (but laughed as well wtf weird kid). Can't imagine going through it now 😅
Yeah.. kinda makes me think this dude either made the story up or did it on purpose as he said he'd already watched this film not long before going caving. I mean how does one get separated far enough from everyone that they get completely lost in the dark unless they did it intentionally?
I remember a story about a guy who got trapped in a cave-in in Mammoth Cave for a couple of days. The real problem wasn't food or water (which he had plenty of) but the deafening silence. It was so quiet that he could hear the blood rushing through the veins and arteries in his ears which was so loud he couldn't sleep so he kept smacking the cave wall just to make some kind of noise. Otherwise he'd have gone completely nuts by the time he was found.
Skiddish??
Fun fact this movie is loosely based off a book of the same name by Jeff Long. The creatures are an off shoot of ancient men that hid underground during the ice age I think, and adapted to life underground. The surface world finds tunnels and cave systems that span nearly the entire world and under the oceans and colonize them, then find the creatures have massive tribes that live there. It's a pretty good horror book, but can be kind of long winded at times. Worth a read if you like the creatures and want some more back story and lore about them and an overall better story than the movie lol
You are amazing! Thanks for my new book of the week.
The book is great. i read it almost 20 yrs ago in middle school.
I really enjoyed the book actually. How they discovered they had formed their own societies and developed culture wasn't even touched upon in the movie. I would watch a sequel as long as they expanded on the book. I don't think it even was a true horror novel.
Oh yeah, and the cave people were a global thing. At one time they were a large population, hadn't lost the ability to think critically, and colonized everywhere there was a cave system. The book still has issues, but it way better than the movie. The only similarity is that a
number of people are killed by some sort of rat people in caves
Thank you for the suggestion, the book sounds fascinating. Will definitely check it out
Hot tip for city folk out there: if you're hiking in the woods and come across a dead animal that looks like it was killed by another animal but wasn't actually consumed, run, get out of there fast because that means a wild animal is killing for pleasure which generally means it's diseased.
Or you've startled it off and it's coming back lol
@@thecatthatgotaway also bad, don't want to be between a bear/mountain lion and it's meal.
@@Konghammer1Or, and this is pretty interesting but also scary, Predators will sometimes kill prey but leave it behind so that other Predators won’t try and poach their kills from them.
Mountain Lions do this for Wolves IIRC and Cougars do it for Coyotes.
What I wonder though is that could a Predator do this for a Human? It’s pretty half and half on whether Predators see us as fellow Predators as all so who knows lol
Or it was killed by something territorial. Also bad for you, as you are now *in that creature’s territory*
@@maylabrown4584Mountain Lions and cougars are the same thing….
Goblin Slayer would like to know the location of this cave.
And DoomSlayer will let him use his soundtrack
I was thinking the same thing : I didn't watch the movie, but the pieces that were shown makes me think immediately of Goblin Slayer. A live adaptation should totally looks like this !
Darth Vader enters the cave with his buzzing red light saber
@@SomeGamer1111 epic
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The major rule of not getting into shit like this is not have friends who like to have “extra fun.” That’s how you end up in an abandon cabin in the woods, an untraversed plot of woods, a haunted house in some small town, etc. sadly I have a few of these kinds of friends.
If you ever see any ghosts or ajy type of monsters, post them on your social media and then link it here, I'd love to see them🙏
@@dwighttheislander7369 you will have to keep waiting till you die then. Even after that pretty sure, well, there is no after. Cmon man grow up. No such thing as ghosts and stuff. Unlike the species in this movie which is very real
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@@observeoutofthebox7806 damn I was making a joke, bruh🙏
@@dwighttheislander7369 Buzzkill Bob up there don't joke. He serious face. He no smile no laugh. All thing serious all time.
As a kid I watched this in theatre and remember thinking that the old equipment still stuck in the ceiling was indication that these creatures were other people lost in the cave and were forced to adapt to the dark.
Looking back I guess it was just indication that people have been going missing there in the cave and probably eaten, serving as a bit of foreshadowing rather than explaining the creature’s origins lol
I mean, it's not impossible that both are the case.
It would take hundreds, if not thousands of years to evolve like that.
I assumed the same
[Spoiler for The Cave] In the movie The Cave, it's exactly that. A team within the last 100 years went in to said cave and was mutated by something down there. It follows a modern team finding this out. Not a bad movie in my opinion(:
I watched a behind the scenes video about this movie and found it interesting that in the scene where the women first see the creature, their screams of terror are genuine. The director purposely didn’t let them see the monsters in full makeup until that scene was shot so their fear would be authentic.
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The reason why it's awkward is because Juno is slurpalating Paul.
Beautiful terminology, I'll be using that haha
Ah you got to the explanation before me
What in gods name does slurpalating mean
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Still don’t understand why spelunking is considered “fun” you’re literally crawling around in a cavity deep underground where oxygen must be limited
Same reason sky diving is fun
I mean shit we think being an astronaut is fun but that is absolutely fucking terrifying. Stuck in a small space, no way out, oxygen is very much limited, you can't leave or you will die, and your chances of survival are in the hands of a person tens of thousands of kilometres away.
@@iljaradenkovs7150 yeah but these guys literally crawl in spaces barely able to fit them imagine being stuck and slowly dying down there if rather die in space or skydiving either way would be better than that shit
The forbidden fruit is the Darwin award
@@iljaradenkovs7150 mm... I don't know pretty sure astronauts main priority isn't really fun but rather, 'the betterment of humanity!'
I love spelunking~
Just not so much swimming in neckdeep water that must have bat poop in it. ^^”
Nor do I enjoy the occasional spooky sound or endless black pits you occasionally see.
Why is it always " let's go to the unexplored part that only has one tiny entry and exit point that could easily cave in"
@@neonreef3 indeed brother
Change a few words and that's pretty much the plot for a lot of horror movies
@@wildspirewarrior211 You'd think we wouldn't be stupid enough to do such things. Turns out we really are, MrBallen a youtuber talks about many stories like this.
It's the desire to explore untouched parts of the world, or to experience something only a few people round the world have. It's human nature.
Otherwise there'd be no horror. Cause nothing would go wrong.
(A group enters the cave)
The Creatures: LOOKS LIKE MEATS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS!!!
Yes! 🤣🤣
(Orc/Urukai energy intensifies)
THE LAUGH THAT CAME OUT OF ME WAS INHUMAN 🤣🤣🤣🥲
*Excited creature noises*
Which implies that Orcs know what Menus are. Ergo we can assume that Mordor has restaurants.
Prove me wrong children. Prove me wrong.
@@darthlazurus4382 Can't argue with this degree of logic. You earned like.
This movie has a sense of there can be something out there unknown and undiscovered. That is what makes it even scarier.
I can get down with that haha
Exactly
If you walk out into the woods far enough (at least in my experience), you'll find all kinds of weird, hidden and undiscovered things. Nature hides a great many secrets yet.
...but tbh it's usually people trying to hide something, or hide FROM something.
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@@RoanokeGaming We fear the unknown the most. Unkown+threatening+uncanny valley=terrifying enemy. The degenerates in this movie, necromorphs, zombies, and Clickers are all good examples.
Why is it that in *Every* horror movie, everyone has old 80s/90s flashlights?
To fit the time setting I suppose, most modern horror films use phone flashlights
Seriously tho. I have a wickedly powerful flashlight.
MANdrew Manderson I don't, I guess some people,have good flashlights and others don't
@@sparkyphantom92 dude my maglight was $20 i can literally blind pilots with this thing if i was that messed to do so
Because movie gotta movie
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@@natebush8217 I see you’re a man of culture
@@sailorshark3334 Thanks! If you wanted to call a severe series of drug-induced hallucinations given physical form "culture!" XD
Regarding the smelling it’s possible the cave dwellers couldn’t differentiate between themselves and us. Also if infertility is an issue then the dead female might be the end of the line for them
Oof
In the book fertility is an issue. The hadidalmus would umm steal baby batter from men and boys.
@@fakename3891 I'm not a man, so I honestly don't know the answer to this, but I find it hard to believe that any human male would be able to get and maintain an erection in these circumstances. Not just the gross factor but the absolute terror from impending death. Any men want to speculate on whether or not it's possible? I'm genuinely curious.
@@dostagirl9551 ⚠️ NSFW: In the book a group of females go topside find a boy who was if I remember correctly 12. They used manual stimulation and fellatio. They succeed.
Can't speak for all men but even if you don't want it stimulation is stimulation and the body reacts. I've heard of the same thing happening to women during unwanted sex.
@@fakename3891 so it was death by snu snu??
Kay so if the Descent and the Ritual has taught me anything, its DONT GO EXPLORING NEW DANGEROUS PLACES WITH A CLOSE GROUP OF FRIENDS AS A WAY TO ESCAPE GRIEF
The Ritual as well. Going into unmapped places while still trying to get over the loss of someone close to you is a very bad idea.
@@darrelsam419 Ah fack I meant to say the Ritual. I'll edit that. X,Y
@@Ehh97 It's okay. ^^
Didn't realize it was a mistake because there is a movie called The Forest where the main character was grieving over her lost sister. Though the movie wasn't exactly good and was kind of comical at some points.
It taught me the opposite that's fucking awesome.
That's why going out to shop for expensive shit no one needs, going to the bar to have drinks and pick up hot guys to bang later is a better form of healing in the modern era
If I ever go caving, this is what will happen. 1.) Enter cave 2.) Walk 10ft in 3.) Turn around and sprint out to get a burger.
I don't believe you will sprint.
@@disbeafakename167 I will sprint cuz I’m only 10 ft in. Plus that burger is calling my name.
@@hyperhydra9042 this happened to me, twice in the same cave, just not for a burger
@@hyperhydra9042 there was a 9ft drop you had to jump over, huge fuck no
Usually I stick my hand in the cave for a millisecond and be like that’s enough for the day
If you listen closely you can hear fus ro dah echoing through the caves.
Dragon born :0
(quiet echoing) "I am sworn to carry your burdens"
Luckily, the Chaurus eggs hasn't hatched yet.
Hey, I actually noticed the way their skulls indent around the facial region up to the upper cheeks where their ears are! This is something you see in owls, actually.. That amplifies their hearing significantly without having protruding ears that would give away their location at night with a moving silhouette to potential prey. Of course, these things have protruding ears of sorts- but its not like they needed to worry about that too much.
The scariest part of this movie for me was when she was trapped in the cave. I have claustrophobia and I would've just had a heart attack right there.
If you think that's scary read up on the crazy putty cave incident.
@@wayneamelie278 damn, I saw a video recently about that incident. What a terrifying end for that poor guy.
So you mean the entire movie?
That part I almost had a nightmare about Juno in the car 🥺😩
Descent ending
I want to see an April fools video where Roanoke talks to the viewers like a teacher about how "unrealistic" humans are
I hope that video goes out of its way to point out the inefficient and sometimes backwards features of the human body, like how the cells in our retinas are "installed" backward and how the knee is held together with just a few flimsy ligaments that can't self-repair.
Just look at the humam spine
Look, some humans can survive being shot through the heart, only grow hair in a few places, and fashion new limbs from plastic and metal. Of course Humans are mythological cryptids, we just don't categorize ourselves as that!
@damian martinez Humans are totally fictional. we just believe ourselves to be real. We're probably fairy tale creatures in a book and are living in a sub-narative universe. 2020 is the climax of the third book and we're almost at the epilogue.
@@amohotepv I don’t know about cryptids but we are definitely supernatural
Hold on, so you watched a movie about friends cave diving and getting to know the local cave cannibals, while slicing each other apart and hallucinating about escaping and you still went cave diving?!!
Ha
And then got separated by everyone and flashlight died.
what a Chad
I showed this movie to my mom without telling her it was a monster movie. Just letting her think it is simply a type of catastrophy survival movie.
At one point she was like: "Is that a Gollum or something?"
I've always thought that the cave monsters were humans that got trapped and regressed, evolution wise, to monsters. I'd never thought of them as cavemen that never left the caves and never became "human" but became something completely different. I mean the evidence for that is there idk why I never made that connection.
I think it was people who got trapped because they saw some cave diving things that were like 100 years old or something like that
I think the cave paintings were supposed to be the hint
Well it's a bit ridiculous really, it'd take like millions of years to change to a form of human that uses echolocation to hunt.
This isn't something you get to within 100 generations, the adaptation is too big.
Look at humans 50.000 years ago and now, we're almost the same.
@@taserrrthen again, environmental pressures didn't exactly push us to favorize new traits with evolution as not only we are rather well adapted for many environments we didn't really have to biologically adapt to changes, but instead technologically do so.
Though I do slightly agree
"It lets out a yell, alerting other nearby subhumans."
*savage*
"AYO CHECK DIS SHIT OUT!"
I agree that Beth's death was 110% her own fault honestly if I were juno I'd've done the same
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I'm not sure we can say these things would be stronger than humans, because in so many altercations the girls, especially Sarah and Juno, are able to overpower and kill them. That, and the crawlers tend to use surprise attacks, which to me would indicate they aren't very strong.
I don't think this is a matter of strength so much as other factors. The humans can plainly see and combat the monsters in the light with precision, which gives them an advantage; The monsters using ambush tactics doesn't so much represent a weakness so much as a well developed sense of predatory instinct and self preservation, since catching prey defenseless minimizes damage sustained to the predator. Raw physical strength isn't exactly gauged here, except for the fact that that the monsters can boulder across cave walls and ceilings, which does suggest a large amount of training and strength because people who do that are crazy and usually super wirey from years of practice.
And Juno survived, that's right, one pickaxe, 20 mutants. No problem.
Rip and tear!
@@thevisitor1032 yessir
The Visitor until it is done
@@thevisitor1032 The slayers time is now
Nah that was 100% hallucinations at the end of her escaping
Massive phenotype alterations can happen in relatively short periods of time. Remember all Dog breeds are less than 10,000 years old. I understand that that example is one of selective breeding.
Granted, breeding and raising a dog takes several years and not several decades or centuries as with humans. But, it's certainly possible to change humans by simply putting them in situations over time. Also, with dogs, they all tend to follow the same patterns unless we look at flatfaced ones. But it's essentially the same as picking someone with down syndrome and referring to them as a new breed of person.
@@alphadoge3604 humans are already very genetically varied and only came into existence in their current form roughly 300,000 years ago. We'll keep changing until there's more than one again, it was always going to drift apart at some point.
@@wintersking4290 dogs have a much shorter lifespan so evolution happens faster
@@alphadoge3604 itd just take 14 years to raise a generation in prehistoric time, I guess 7 times longer than dogs but humans can also selectively breed a lot better than other animals due to higher self awareness.
Human generations are longer, so evolution is slower. Humans on average can produce max 10-12 offspring (of which in the past only less than half survived to adulthood) during a lifetime, while dogs can potentially have 1-5 offspring every year
I was in a cave when my flashlight died once. It was only about twelve minutes, but damn if your imagination and claustrophobia doesn't take over.
Quick question: why do people go into caves for fun? Like dude why are you in a cave?
@@hangry265 returning to monke
AZIZ, LIGHT!
@@chucklytell excellent movie reference
@@hangry265 go look it up smh you'll find your answer
It's funny that he brought up Dog Soldiers since The Descent is the same director and team. The subtext that he said he didn't really understand is that Juno was having an affair with the husband (Great example of "show, don't tell."). This is actually a really good, and really smart movie filmed on a low budget. The camera work is great, when they're in tight spaces they don't just take the easy approach and cut a hole in the "rock" for the camera, for example once the attached it to a piece of wood and crammed it in there with the actors to give the viewer the same feeling of claustrophobic feeling that the character is having. There are several shots of the monsters that you can easily miss if you're not paying attention, and they don't zoom in and do a loud boom sound effect like most horror films. I highly recommend giving this one a watch for the artistry behind it alone.
This makes sense. The last 9 months, I'm essentially living in a lightness cave called m bedroom where nutrition is pizza and salty noodle packs.My eyesight and cognitive function are rapidly deteriorating.
And every 2 days a kind woman comes in to check on you.
@@zetokaiba5867 negative i live alone, but i do have a cat and doge.
Your choice "genius" lol
@@michaelmanrahan8059 look at my op im fumbling repeatedly, im not sure why i dont proof read before posting anymore, im devolving! humans aren't meant to live alone, especially in a cave.
Remember, those noises outside are things made of meat. When there is no cursed light, you should hunt.
Juno actually wasn't killed; she turns up in the godawful sequel.
We don't talk about it
Unless you’re British. It’s implied they all died at the end.
@Bud Borne he obviously didn't have the intelligence to understand that on his own 😂.
I will thank you on his behalf, the poor fool.
@@theargonianmercenary184 Correct. It was a deleted scene and it does matter if you prefer that version.
The sequel is an absolute abomination that was made as a pure cash-in! The Descent is one of if not the greatest horror movie of the 21st Century!
Being stuck in a cave is one of my worst fears. Thanks for covering this monster that haunts my dreams
The movie is good but it only scratches the surface of fear. The books will make sure you never look in a caves general direction.
The thing with Beth's death is there is no fault in either of their actions. Beth would likely be too in shock to speak, wanting to get to her friend. Juno killed her by accident.
However, Juno lied about it and left her friend for dead. She should have just admitted "It was an accident" and/or put Beth out of her misery.
Female characters: *Scream*
Crawlers: Whom’st has summoned the ancient one?
slightly bug shaped piece of dust: vibing
female anything: SCREAM
Its just like...bro dont scream!
@@b33lze6u6 Or female entomology student: A new friend! :D (Followed by disappointment after realizing it was just dirt...)
Oh! Or female lizard: DINNER! (Also followed by disappointment after realizing it was just dirt...)
@@Amy_the_Lizard exceptions aside 🙄
@@RoanokeGaming yep thats right
These aren't Humans, they're Elves! Haven't you ever heard of the Falmer? No? Lucky you, I guess...
I was more scared of the mf Charus 🙂🔫
Shut the hell up Baragon
Have you heard of the high elves?
@@littlelizard3483 Make me, Orphan!
I took one look at this and thought: *”Until Dawn”*
**Cue Wendigo PTSD Flashbacks** 😭
In the beginning of the video the Until Dawn OST is playing
It's just a prank, Han!
**Handigo has entered the chat**
Lol
That gsme is great! Have you played Miasma?
Eh? Not at all similar to Until Dawn....
Minor point of order on the early description of the divergence: ancient human ancestors likely didn't go too deep into caves because they didn't have much need and light would have been an issue. Yes you can take a crude fire torch in deeper for light or even start a campfire if you have the wood, but eventually that would become dangerous between gasses and smoke, not to mention start having logistical issues maintaining the light. So for some reason, the ancestors of this offshoot felt a need to go deeper into the caves, and also survived in there. Part of me wants to speculate the ice age might have been involved, as I could see ancient humans running out of wood and furs in a cave with a natural heat source choosing to go deeper for that reason before finding a way to survive somehow.
I actually blame this movie for my irrational hatred of the Falmer from Elder Scrolls. When I first encountered them in Skyrim, I was genuinely terrified of the creatures. I actively avoided any mission or exploration that might have led to me encountering them.
Eventually though, as my skills in the arts of an arcane assassin developed, I became exceptionally competent in hunting them.
Yeah, I made a point of oeving none of the violent creatures still standing in my last playthrough
@@samuelbishop3316
I remember The Falmer and I like Skyrim too it's my favorite Elder Scrolls game my Argonian Dovahkiin character sometimes gets killed easily by the Falmer but luckily he's a Werewolf and can easily attack them better in his Werewolf form.
As a Skyrim warrior, I can guarantee that the Falmer are extremely terrifying even with my maxed daedric armor.
Those things are nightmares to fight.
I played a month or so of Skyrim without ever encountering the Falmer, (I guess I just got lucky with the particular quests I and exploring I was doing not leading me there? lol) and by then I thought I pretty much had all the mobs logged in my head so when I saw one for the first time in one of those watery caves, blue mist clouding my ability to see it patrolling it felt like an actual fucking nightmare
This is why I hate the falmer too!
This movie gave me anxiety before the monsters even showed up.
Dude me too! Hahaha I can’t deal with caves like that
Yup
YUUUUPPPPP
you are not alone my guy
yes!!!
that's the beauty of this film.
Claustrophobia shit man :((
I don't usually do the "read the book" thing. But in this case, you should read the book these movies are based on. It goes into so much more detail and works to build an entire world as it were around the creatures, as well as humanity's response to them.
Whats the book called?
@@TheDirtyBum900 It’s called The Descent, written by Jeff Long. The only real similarity to the movie is the underground dwelling...people? Things?
I'm very interested in the book, though I have to say I'm glad they abstained from divulging any real info on the dwellers in the movie. Lends itself well to the pacing as well as getting your imagination to run wild as to what dreadful shit led to them being what they are.
@@fraundakelmbrilpondaprost90 I agree completely, but the book did it very well. The reveal in the book was basically done as like a worldwide anthropological/ genetic research into it. Kinda cool.
@@Ryan-bc6cb Yeah, from other input I've read it seems to be very different in spirit from the film. I'm definitely not arguing that the concept of exploring the dwellers isn't cool as hell (a big part of why I want to read it), just that I think for the film itself, the mystery was a good call.
The presence of the blood pool is one of the biggest tells without much thinking that this is probably a form of hell.
I highly doubt that the monsters would be able to kill enough to maintain something like that.
"they are part of the same kingdom, a united kingdom. A UK perhaps"
Killed me
When do we get the morphological analysis of Caveman Roanoke?
It's nothing but Roanoke saying "Unga Bunga" for twenty minutes.
@@krullachief669 HAHAHAAHHA
Neaderthals were actually very smart, but the joke is kinda funny ngl
*Starting at the feet-*
Starting with the feet
Don't worry guys, the movie's totally fiction...
Caves don't exist.
This is minecraft cave update
who is stupid enough to believe that caves weren't made up by notch to sell more copys of minecraft
@@alpharius7216 r/woooosh
@@thatkidoverthere5750 you did not read my comment correctly, also please don't link subreddits outside of reddit.
@@idoitonastick8689 we all are Alpharius, brothers!
"I know a great idea, I'll get my friends to explore an uncharted hole inside the earth just to name it to my traumatized friend"
-a dumb fucking idea.
Lol, perfectly put.
Nah she just wanted to explore it for the rush. But was probably too chicken shit to go by herself and knew her friends wouldn't want to. So she lied about where they were going. The fact that she didn't even register where they were secretly means she's also a dumbass. Though I guess the park rangers might try to stop her and probably wouldn't be able to save them in time even if they knew. Still Juno sucks
Juno is a bit of a nob.
How did she even find this particular cave lmao
@@InvaderGIR98 as far as I know, there are communities of cave explorers that share non-explored cave locations for eventual mapping. She likely found it through one of those communities and decided to give it a shot in the dumbest way possible. Mostly to hog the glory.
I'm from Scotland and can almost pinpoint where some of those outdoor scenes were shot. For any Amrican viewers, Scotland is a very small country and if you live there, you usually know the roads/hills/fields by the fauna.
Aren't the highlands a bit of a maze though?
Don't you mean flora? Fauna is living moving animals like cats. Flora is plants
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my brain: me Roanoke, me make video on blind cave people
Me Roanoke me like cave people but not speak.
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@@endousclarifroar3738 lol
Neanderthals weren't 'stupid cave men' they had a different type of intelligence that we might look down on, but they werent stupid. What are those examples of a progenitor of Neanderthals the Hedielburg man? Larger, stronger, and with larger brains than neanderthals or homo sapiens?
@@PraxisAbraxis dude it is just a joke i know that stereotype is inaccurate i just can't stop imagining the scenario in my head.
Didn't know there was a "happier" ending to this. The one I saw ends with her smiling at the hallucination of her daughter and a birthday cake as the subhumans crawl along the walls and ceiling.
I'd personally argue the alternate ending is way darker. Sarah escapes, but now she lives with not only the grief of her family, but also the grief that comes with the loss of all her friends and guilt from dooming Juno. I love the alternate ending because it's one of the few horror endings where escaping the monsters doesn't equate to any form of relief.
The hallucination ending is now non-canon, with the release of the sequel to this movie
@@theshermantanker7043 how did this god awful movie get a sequel?
@@Rizwaan122 Because literally anything can get a sequel these days, it's apparently way easier than trying to pitch something original, 'brand recognition' or some lazy shit like that
@@Rizwaan122 god awful? its an amazing horror movie
I love these movies bc it's a horror with a female cast and they're not all useless scream queens but actually fight back. It's badass! Had no idea there was an English version though! Now I need to see that.
The Appalachian mountains are absolutely covered in ever greens like that...
They also stretch all the way up north and I dont remember the movie stating a specific place it takes place beyond appalachian mountains
@@dyzerio1 I think just somewhere in North Carolina.
Appalachian mountains are covered in cryptids and folklore legends
I love this place
@@secondheaven9545 beautiful area with a great mystical vibe for sure 👍
@Dr. Jimmy_Rustle you have single -sentencedly roasted almost the entirety of the area I live in well done my good man
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Hope you enjoy it!
If I recall correctly, just some time within the past 5 years, archeologists discovered some pretty convincing evidence that our understanding of the fossil record is way off, and that even complex evolution can happen much, MUCH faster than we originally thought.
It still takes a long time, don’t get me wrong, but if my memory isn’t too far off, it turns out that evolution which we thought took tens of millions of years, only took hundreds of thousands.
If I can find where I got this information, I’ll be sure to post a link to it.
I think it mostly depends on what’s evolving. Like evolving some extra minor bone probably takes a pretty short amount of time relatively but then Dolphins going fully aquatic will take a long ass time.
I'm interested please if you find the link reply to your comment 😊
@@ManiacallyQuiet
I’ve found one of my sources, there were at least two others though, so I’ll keep looking.
The link is at the bottom, what this study has found is that extensive alterations to genetic structures can occur via entirely natural means, 15 times faster than previously believed.
University of Oxford. (2015, October 27). Chicken study reveals evolution can happen much faster than thought: New study of chickens overturns popular assumption that evolution is only visible over long time scales. ScienceDaily.
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/10/151027213417.htm
@Dr. Jimmy_Rustle My girl takes around 17 LATs to get ready
@@ManiacallyQuiet Found another! This one shows how birds, plants, and spiders in urban environments are evolving with relatively incredible speed to better survive in human cities. They’ve been developing physical changes that allow them to find food more easily in an environment of steel and concrete, learning to use human devices to their advantage, and even developing genetically enforced behaviors that make them more endearing to humans.
www.nytimes.com/2016/07/24/opinion/sunday/evolution-is-happening-faster-than-we-thought.amp.html?0p19G=2103
Dude you rock, I can't believe I just found your channel, thanks for the great content and sweet ass in depth breakdowns man.
I love how you originally think Juno was Sarah's truest friend for being the only one there at the hospital w/her, visibly devistated for her friend, when in fact, those actions were the result of self-serving betrayal - being that she'd been screwing her "bff's" husband! Juno was only there( & inconsolable) out of concern for her lover - not her "friend".
No he said Beth was her truest friend lol but he did shout out Juno being there
I'm glad my wifes friends are ugly. I don't have to worry about distracted driving getting me killed.
You’re a lot like a feminist I know... LoL. A bit more logical though but similar. Great sense of plot analysis and savvy. I felt similar but didn’t deduce it so well. 😏
@Deez Nutz god grow up
@Deez Nutz what is this 2012? Get a new routine or we’ll put the lid on your casket
One fact I love is that there used to be a race of essentially Hobbits way back.
What happened to them?
Apparently...we ate them...
oof, humans suck
You talking of Florensis?
They would've done the same to us if they could. That's just how animals be.
I mean, some people eat monkeys too so....
@@jagerdergroe8604 I believe so yes, watched a documentary on them aaaages ago. Imagine all these different types of hominids(or whatever) were still around today, it'd be super strange.
I remember watching this movie years ago but don’t remember Juno and Sarah being killing machines. Imagine if they teamed up instead of turning on each other
Yeahh right😫they could have killed every single creatures😢
Plot twist: these were warhammer mordants and the cavers were interrupting the wedding of the duchess of tunnelshire.
Neanderthals are still around. His name is Ron. He works at the 76 gas station near my house and talks real slow
Has he mastered stone tools yet?
@I'll taketh thy cheese by force I am Ron
He talks real slow? That trait reveals more about the people he has to deal with than it does about the person whose trait is attributing to.
There are literally tens of us!
Honestly if I was trapped in a cave that would be the scariest part. At that point I would just welcome death.
That’s why I would bring a katana and a gun
@@flamestoyershadowkill a katana in a cave? It would be better to bring something smaller
@@johnnysins4715 yeah a shortsworrd or dagger would be better
@@flamestoyershadowkill or a spear/short spear
@@archosauropre-historico8708
One can hardly use certain spears in a hallway, nevermind a cave.
Already subbed to Roanoke Tales.
If I ever went caving I'd bring all of the batteries and all of the flashlights. In fact that is all I would bring, I'd be loaded down with flashlights and batteries, flares, glow sticks, survival candles, I would have head lamp lights strapped to every part of my body. It would be like a concert in that frigging cave. I might die from exposure or starvation but I would have light damn it!
don't forget the hatched and the backup hatchet
Yanuchi Uchiha: Anime, Games and Ramdomness and each hatchet will be equipped with a flashlight.
Bro what the hell haven't u done, cave climbing, construction work, a scientist and the best of all a youtuber..
The Descent is SUUUUCH an amazing movie. Though, the second one isn’t nearly as good.
The books f*cking metal
You know the worst part of all this is that this scenario is actually super realistic, there 100% could be a species of human out there in the woods/caves/ocean/jungle that lives like this and would do this. After all, there's no way _ALL_ of the woods behind grandma's house could be explored...
Thanks, the FBI.
Humans are omnivorous, I doubt a population of us could have survived long enough on 100% meat to evolve into a new species.
@@IzzyAndAndy yes, but some people become vegan correct? It affects them of course, but if you have like, 10 generations worth of vegans, you'll have a genetically different being that may not even be able to process meat at all. So when someone lives solely off of meat, it's probably a less drastic change that happens over a long time, until that body can support itself.
@@alphadoge3604 no..... no. That's not how it would happen. You need proteins and other things from meats, and being a vegan you can substitute it, but your body still needs the same things someone who eats meat would need. So it wouldn't change anything about our anatomy, maybe just turning into a tradition instead but no. They'd definitely still be able to digest and eat meat. We can also digest and eat small amounts of dirt, but it's not like we're actively snacking on some of that sweet soil. They'd also maybe have different taste, but that's also linked to just where you grew up anyway so it's not like they'd be any different than people from another country.
@@alphadoge3604 you (a human) can get all the nutrients you need being vegan. You (a human) CANNOT get all the nutrients you need strictly from meat. Veganism isn’t an equivalent example in any way, especially because raw veganism (no modern vegan replacements, sticky what you yourself can grow and harvest) is statistically ineffective and even dangerous for some people because of the lack of nutrients you receive.
Caveman Roanoke passed on his feet interest to his descendants
Great review & study! I "accidentally" saw The Descent as part of a double feature at the drive-in. It showed after 28 Weeks later I believe. Glad we stayed! I don't remember seeing any commercials or any other promotional stuff for it's release. We were blown away by it! What a cool concept. Oddly, the cut we saw had the European ending, not the US cut. I still watch this & part 2 about once a year.
It’s one best horror movies of all time no doubt
Fun fact: The Falmer from TES V: Skyrim were inspired by the Descent Monsters. Fucking terrifying tbh.
Weren't the falmer in oblivion?
@@yetanotherretroreview4476 No.
@@yetanotherretroreview4476 Oblivion takes place in Cyrodiil, otherwise known as the "Heartland". Instead of Falmer, they used Zombies and such. The Falmer in Skyrim are a completely different thing. They were Snow Elves that fled the Nords who were attacking them, and seeked help from the Dwemer(AKA Dwarves, and also known as Deep Elves). The Dwemer then forced them to eat a certain type of Mushroom only found in "Blackreach"(the underground of Skyrim), which after the Dwemer disappeared mysteriously, they began to adapt to the darkness of Blackreach. So yeah, a bunch of lore on the Falmer.
@@yetanotherretroreview4476 The descent was originally a book written in the 90s. The monsters were called the Hadal and very similar to the Falmer.
@@KingDerpy13 attacking…? The birds responded in force for what the snow elves did.
This is actually a very good movie, even the opening scenes are very anxiety inducing
Imagine stumbling upon the only 20 living non-homo-sapiens humans and killing half of them. that's not very cool
they kinda asked for it tbh...
They would already be mostly extinct. And would die out shortly no matter what those girls did. Genetic bottle neck. Not enough people. In the book, the cave people were worldwide.
Those are just the ones we've found. Turns out an uglier version lives in the sub caves, and comes up to hunt them...
@@fluffyone1882
True, not enough of those things. Only 20 of them there... yeah, definitely not. Only thing to gain by their continued existence would be some biological science and stuff
It's either you or them. You wouldn't be thinking about how rare these specimen are when they rip your friend's throat out and eat her/him alive
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They embody the meme "Return to Monke" so well.
The Cave (2005) actually has a very similar, and even more interesting, concept of devolution. It's a similar movie scenario, but the mutations are enabled by a symbiotic pathogen that mutates the hosts to better fit their environment by snatching genes from other animals in the environment (ie. in a partially flooded cave system, it causes them to develop gills to supplement their lungs and echolocation to replace their vision, along with claws and bat-like wings).
Wings sound like a terrible adaptation for a human sized creature in a cave system. Even more so if it's blind.
Fun fact about Scotland is that it sits on the Great Glenn fault, which is a Strike-Slip fault, means that it runs side-by-side and thus can't make mountains under normal circumstances. Something similar has happened on the island of Newfoundland in Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada, in Northeastern America. Considering plate tectonics and continental drift, and the only real mountainous regions of Northeastern Ameroca this means that at one point, Scotland was indeed a part of the Appalachian Mountain Range.
That explains a lot actually...
It does. Also explains why, when Scottish people started settling down in the Appalachian ranges they would say it was because it reminded them of Scotland.
You don't de-evolve,you just evolve into something different .
Evolve is programmed before humans is the result of countless programmed evolve
@@robabahanii4469 Could you please repeat that in English because I don't have any idea what you just Said.
@skeptically pissed I'm just saying evolution is not random of course it effected by environment but it's programmed from beginning to finally reach to humans
@@robabahanii4469 so do you think we are done evolving?
@skeptically pissed my opinion yes
But maybe slights adjustments on face height. Every generation face looks different
There is no such thing as a “de-evolution”. Evolution has just one direction - towards more fit for the environment. “More evolved” does not mean “better” or “smarter” or “more complex”, just “better suited for survival”. That can be smarter, dumber, simpler, more complex, weaker, stronger - whatever fits the environment an organism lives in better, and rates its chances of survival higher.
Devolution does exist and evolution doesn't always work out for all the members of a species because some members don't evolve and get left behind.
Or devolution is a mutation that makes the host worse.
First of all, observing a single organism, or a subset of a species does not work in term of evolution.
Second, a mutation that makes a species maladapted will also cause it to die off. It didn't devolve. Dying off and making more space for lineages that DID adapt is PART of the evolution.
@@oorcinus That is true but devolution is so rare people think it doesn't exist.
@@MasterNabber I think de-evolution is just like evolution but you need to lose something. like penguins. They became flightless but in return they become a great swimmer
@@funicat Yeah it's like a genetic trade.
Oh man, let's take a descent into this video.
hope you like it man!
I'm not getting close to any caves ever in my life! Holy hell, that felt and looked terifying!
You're never more than a mile and a half from a cave. Unless you're in a plane... or spaceship... or submarine... okay, never mind.
@@disbeafakename167 It makes me uncomfortable to know I'm so close to a cave.
This was a very fun video to watch. The movies were good but the books were amazing. To answer the problem with them getting to America. In the books there is a massive cave system that spans even under the oceans. There are thousands of these creatures known as the Hadal. They also kidnapped humans on a regular basis as slaves for breeding or labor. They are shockingly organized even having cities. The author does go into great detail on how they came to be with a pretty crazy twist that I won't spoil. The books are horrifying and honestly my favorite series. The first book is called The Descent the second is The Deeper written by Jeff Long. We are still waiting on the third.
So basically, you’re telling me these are mole people?
No, mole people would make their own tunnels. These are more like Golem with swarm tactics.
Mole science yet mole men are completely fictional,.
right? 😦
They don't have toughened digging claws...
No, they’re wardens
Yeah basically
If you’ve played The Forest, you’ll be fine.
I loved the forest. I suggest burning them
still waiting for sons of the forest, the hot legsies tho
@@merkymurk7534 new trailer dropped recently. Go check it out. Got some crazy looking mutants in it.
@@Emistotle ayyo thanks man i havent been kept up with the forest since the 2019 trailer, i hope the guns in this game have realistic mechanics like say tarkov
Or skyrim
Evolution is a complicated process
Go back I wanna be monke
"Reject Humanity, Embrace Monke"
@@KingDerpy13 I reject my Humanity! WRYYYYYYYY!
*reverse evolution noises intensifies*
jokes on you monkeys came from a branch we aren't on its impossible to return to monke because we were never monke
@@thesilverblueman so your saying....
... the game was rigged from the start
I think they used cheetah, pig, and hyena calls to make the communication of those cave monsters. By the way in case you were curious, the mountains in Scotland used to be connected to the appellations when North America and Europe were still together. Interesting considering some of the folklore has very big parallels.
I would be able to let go the cheating. But that morning energy after a night of drinking is unforgivable
Juno was an absolute bad ass in this film, I think the scream at the end was the creatures... 😁
The ending to the sequel made me laugh and then go « what the fuck »😂. One thing I know, I for sure wouldn’t even be down there for any reason. Just because it’s undiscovered by modern civilization, doesn’t mean no one lives there. Also, I sure as HELL wouldn’t go back down there knowing all my friends never came back.
The police forced her
@@missantonia14goldsby I mean, I guess. You always got a choice tho. Plus she already wasn’t in her right mind after the first time so by law they’d have to get her some help before having her make those types of important decisions.
I mean, it seems like she doesn't have any choice from the summary. Like...they found Juno's blood on her. She was going to jail otherwise. But yeah, everything in that summary sounds like a batshit, terrible movie.
Extending that caves mess up sound note: Many caves muffle sound due to their stone, limestone for example is porous and messes up sound because it acts like a sound diffuser but caves with a less porous rock gives you those echoes. Andesite caves for example, can carry sounds deep into their recesses.
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"Troglophiles, not to be confused with trogloxines, moving in and out of caves, like bats, or troglobites, which cannot exist outside of caves, or are permanent cave dwellers, "
Or troglodites, the creatures from greek myth, or Troglodytae, the people mentioned by Herodotus in Histories, who dwelled around Lybia, eating meat raw, and were the fastest runners of all the humans, or... you get the point. Oh, and if you want, "Trogloditae" would mean "cave-goer" in English, could be a good middle ground between Trogloxines and Troglobites. Or something like that. My greek is a tad rusty, and mostly unused.
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Been Waiting for this One! This cave cannibal creatures movie genuinely *terrified* me
There was also another cave movie that explores an ecosystem full of symbiotic enhancing virus - edit the name ia literally 'the cave'
hope you enjoyed it man!
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Juno had an affair with Sarah’s husband. That’s why Juno cried in the hospital and also why she tried to get them all together again out of guilt. After Juno accidentally kills Beth, Sarah’s truest friend, and lies about it - Sarah turns on Juno, Sarah finds out about the affair through Beth because remember Beth took Junos necklace during the attack. The necklace has a quote her husband lived by inscribed on it.
Probably one of my favorite horror movies of all time, that first jump scare with the car accident got me good
Roanoke: They would likely be stronger than your adult male.
Also Roanoke : Female X Y and C overpowers said creatures pretty much any time in the movie.
Hmhm...
Lack of vision gives them a huge advantage though
@@RoanokeGaming if I closed my eyes I bet I could still beat my wife.
Could be the creatures have lighter, weaker bones than humans; if that were the case, they'd need less strength to support their weight climbing
@@satan7350 but could you beat her after that in a court?
@@NotSaddamHussein bold of you to assume she's legal and can file court cases.
Are you gona do "The Cave" next?
its kinda the same, but not
An organism evolving constantly while still alive, not generational. Interesting concept
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Legit reminds me of Doomsday. Except he usually adapted after a ressurection.
Somebody needs to explain how he adapted ressurection. I want that.
@@TheKing-qz9wd from what i can gather doomsday gained the abilty to adapt from being constanly cloned from a baby that constanly got murderd in one of the harshest envoirments in the universe prehistoric krypton for decades at probably a baby per day the best biological guess i can make is that some special set of doomsdays cells likely repurposed ones responsible for "reproduction" adapted the abilty to upon death identitfy the cause of death and rapidly mutate these cells to be immune to that fate again these few cells would leave doomsdays corps by rot blood or saliva etc etc then find a safe envoirment then regrow slowly into another doomsday kind of like how orks reprouduce in warhammer 40k but unless someone else creates them there is never naturally more then one doomsday and like the orks doomsday has genetic memeory so every natural doomsday is a mental contiuntation of the previous one the odd thing is no one in to my knowledge in the dc universe has found doomsday regenrating somewhere after death or found some half formed doomsday
@William King yeah the orks genetic memory is only for technology while doomsdays only gives him the past memories and personality of doomsday fun facy doomsday has experinced shifts in his intelligence after death sometimes even reaching full sapieance but ironically this makes him weaker as superman says it makes him unable to fight without restraint like a wild beast due to being aware of fear and pain
Tabby, where's Alexei?
Adds a whole new meaning to the word "caveman".