Labour freebie scandal is an 'absolute salad of rollocks', says James O'Brien | LBC
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- James O'Brien questions what exactly he should be angry about regarding the row around Labour's 'freebies', as he maintains 'they've actually done nothing wrong'.
The PM came under fire after accepting work clothing donations worth £16,200, and multiple pairs of glasses, to the value of £2,485 from prominent Labour donor Lord Alli.
It has also emerged that Ms Rayner has accepted clothing donations worth around £2,200 from Lord Alli. Rachel Reeves further admitted that she had accepted money for clothes from donor Juliet Rosenfeld.
It was announced on Friday that Labour's top team will no longer accept donations to pay for clothing.
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I don't know why Labour don't BAN all personal donations/gifts, forget Declaration make it a FRAUD crime, that would shake up the Tories !!!!
@@bridget9396 There's just one - MINOR detail you may not be familiar with...
The banks own the corporations - the same banks to whom the government is in debt to with a currency that's only backed by its own debt and the continued belief by the masses that it has value. Physically it's utterly worthless.
More to the point the banks want their money back and since we can't even begin to pay it back, let alone it's interest; they expand their corporate controls and fund through them. So tell me - you think of a single politician prepared to utterly destroy the nation as a consequence?
Its labour that has been taking donations you Dohnut, that’s the whole story
No objection to people donating to MPs or political parties as long as there are no strings attached. No cost to Taxpayers if they get freebies from wealthy people.
These donations to Labour MPs and the Labour Party did not break Parliamentary Rules and the Laws have not been.broken! These MPs are not hiding the gifts and donations they are declaring them openly. Rules should be changed if the majority of MPs in all parties (without party whips being involved) vote to abolish freebies
It would hurt them more.
@@christinebrown2765 Oh come on - nothing is free and these "gifts" come with a price. If the ceo of a company donates a million to your cause - you're not going to put out a law that hinders their means for profit.
This is why I always knew that James' disdain for Jeremy Corbyn and his whole faux outrage towards the left of the Labour Party was *always* about him, his cushy establishment media job and his socioeconomic status. He absolutely reeks of Centrist Dad energy.
As it's been said a million times in a million different ways, it's not about the gifts given to the politicians. It's about the gifts given BY the politicians in return.
Nobody does something for nothing. And if you've spent the last 14 years cutting the Tories to ribbons for their 'mates rates' style of government, you have no credibility at all if you're not INCREDIBLY suspicious of what Starmer stands to gain from all these gifts.
At least they declared what they had received!
@@SandraT1107when it suited them, not before they were elected….
@@SandraT1107penning it into a book doesn’t make it any less corrupt, it’s open bribery.
These donors are buying influence.
@@SandraT1107only because the information was leaked
@@TeddyG-y6sit wasn't leaked. The info comes from the published register of members interests. It's been in the public domain for years. You can look at the declarations yourself on the UK parliament website. It's in pdf though.
journalistic accountability has been entirely subverted. it needs to be remade and bought back stronger for our modern time. and we need it now
Bit disingenuous James. Clearly it's not about what the gift is, so much as the who and why. Very naive of any politician to accept gifts and be then be surprised when it's regarded with suspicion
Yeah if it wasn't to sway their perception, were the companies just giving out free stuff because they enjoy giving out free things to people? Because I'll take some free stuff if the fact politicians were the recepients is irrelevant.
I agree. I also want to see Green hold Labour accountable over this very publicly.
Yeah. Imagine if the press had got so animated about it at the time, a year ago.
But for some reason they've decided to make this a huge issue now.
Trying to muddy the waters between legal gifts and corrupt Tory ppe contracts.
@@verystripeyzebra well he accepted box tickets to arsenal just as they are discussing a football association. We could say that this gift was a small bribe to sway kier into taken on some arsenal staff into the association which would be…corruption
@@King-balloon yes, if all your wild assumptions are true. Your assumptions are doing all the heavy lifting there.
Labour could pass a law within a week: no more freebies, gratuities etc etc for *all* MP's. We can talk about second jobs, donor money later.
Of course they could. But they won't, because the Red Tories' snouts are in the same trough.
Only by voting for proper principled progressive left-wingers, and not 'Sirs' like Starmer, will we ever get the Labour Party we deserve.
we could effectively reduce the number of MPs by 400 ..........and keep pensioners warm through winter ...
@mickreaddin4979 (who suggested): Labour could pass a law within a week: no more freebies, gratuities etc etc for all MP's.
@prspicaciouscritic replies: Read the news: they did. Last Friday, the prime minister and other senior Labour ministers said they would no longer accept donations for clothing.
As a Labour voter. It's just a disappointment for their lack of judgement and reinforcing the feeling political professionals live in another world.
I'm not trying to be combative, but let us take this individuals contributions as sincere and innocent. People determined to engage with people who care about looks and clothes etc. Get those people's vote. Have our leaders hold their heads high in front of other world leaders.
Is this REALLY the most terrible thing regarding judgment you can think of? I see you about to rock up to a meeting with the king in your M&S suit, and I say to you, "Let me sort this out for you."
When track and trace was a thing?! When PPE contracts were awarded to people's pub owning neighbours. And you are looking at Labour?!!
I'm a leftie James. And let me tell you. This is very important. Gifts and donations seek influence.
So you must be 100x more outraged at Tories and Reform then?
I guess this means you will vote Labour for the rest of your life given the alternatives....
Wow, thanks for letting us know
What if the gift was from a union leader who wanted stronger worker rights in return. Would that not be alright?
@@henryburton6529 Green/Independent and ethical and transparent. Does that help with the feedback you wanted?
The donator is a billionaire Labour peer in the houses of parliament. What more influence could he possibly have?
@@henryburton6529 Whataboutism? really?! "Oh no we can't call out corruption on our team.. look at the other worst people oooo!" Grow up.
You're supposed to be angry about donations from dodgy hedgefunds. They dont do that for nothing. They're buying something. Then there's all the tacky gifts on top.
Did we vote for think tanks, lobby groups and hedge funds - No.
Do they enhance democracy - No
Do they have a different agenda to to the wishes of the British People - Who knows? it is rarely transparent and the lack of transparency is a significant risk I think.
Why are people who weren't bothered last year, suddenly so bothered now though?
@alfsmith4936 Yeah, that is true, and the Tory party does not receive the same level of scrutiny the Labour party does either..
@@alfsmith4936 Nobody is bothered. We are bothered by Labour and James' hypocrisy...
@@ibexdnb2879 Hypocrisy is often shown by contradicting yourself - as you have done here!
It's ckear James will defend labour when they're doing things he rightly condemned the tories for doing. Unfortunately this means James is presenting in a completely biassed manner, which can only call into question everything that he says, sorry James you gave away your credibility again today.
Exactly why the BBC showed him the door.
The man...sorry, the guy is SLIME
Of course he is a completely biased presenter
James is a neo liberal, he will side with this right wing labour.... he hated corbyn who didn't take such things and offered real change...
Too right . Double standards. O’Brien is a centrist’s mouthpiece.
James would be levitating with pure rage had this been the Conservatives and he knows it
You're supposed to be angry that our politicians are on the take. It needs to stop.
Then you should have been angry about it for decades, why just now?
@@kevinsmarts9953 Who says I haven't been? For as long as I have been a bit more politically savvy I've seen the dangers of gifts or acting on behalf of Lobby's.
You're clearly blind, James. Making excuses, and saying the last lot were worse, doesn't change what's happening now. Especially while the rest of us are told that we have to deal with cuts. MORE CUTS after 15 years of cuts. Yet Labour's MPs getting handouts for favours.
Yes, favours. We're not going to start pretending that companies just hand out freebies and tickets and clothes, from their goodness of their hearts now, are we? You might be that naive, but don't insult the rest of us.
'As soon as you tell me what I'm supposed to be angry about I'll ask you to compare it to what went before'. If I get angry at a case of modern slavery would James reply with 'Well, it was worse before, so there'?
If modern slavery was legal in the UK you'd have a point.
@@kevinsmarts9953 It is and the government tacitly supports it by allowing mass immigration.
@@kevinsmarts9953 I have one now
What do these donors want in return? What man allows another to pay for his wife's clothes? How rich is free gear kier? Is he on the poverty line?
What if the answer is 'they want people to see the PM wearing their clothes'?
Free Gear Kier Lol
@@drummingtildeath He's not David Beckham.
@fumbleBumble82 responses like that only serve to highlight the fact that you don't want to answer the question
Re the clothes, perhaps what they got in return was having their clothes seen by the rich and powerful.
Your missing the point. They should not be accepting at all, both parties. The rules need changed. If they can't live on their salaries, then how can they expect someone living else to live on 12k.
Why not??? A gift is a gift and just as long as nothing is wanted in return such as a government contract then they are totally fine.
@@patarciepaulit's corruption
@@firebyrd437 Nope. Giving someone a present is not corruption just as long as a government contract isn't given in return. Rolls Royce used to give the queen a new car every year absolutely free. Is that corruption???
@@patarciepaul it can be misconstrued as a bribe, whether it is or isn't. This is why the corporate world has rules about accepting gifts and hospitality, and it largely stopped in the late 90s because of anti-bribery legislation. How this doesn't apply in politics absolutely baffles me.
He’s not “missing” the point he’s purposely turning a blind eye
I think the problem with this is Lord Starmer was very critical of Tory mp gifts and freebies. He also campaigned on integrity and honesty. Now couple this with austerity 2.0 or just the lack of positive spin from labour, well can you really blame people for being angry? Of course I understand it’s no different than other mps have done in the past, but I think the key word is “optics” it’s a massive political blunder much like the winter fuel allowance.
undeclared on the right, not a word said by the right. declared on the left but complained about by *most* party members and a load of Labour MPs. You're a hypocrite.
Just imagine James’ righteous indignation had it been the Tories 😂
why would it have been? since the outrage was when torries lied about it all..labour have not nor is anything wrong with this
Or indeed....the left wing side of the labour party. Its almost like he's performing mental gymnastics to defend his unwavering support for the new Labour contrarians. This was happening last week too....is the news so slow that there's nothing else to talk about? Nah.... he's been asked to do this or he's feeling guilty about being conned I'd wager.
just imagine, when the tories were taking the exact same freebies, NOTHING said by the right - that's you and people like you. Can you say hypocrite?
Starmer's is chicken feed compared to Tory grift. Boris's £800,000 loan, Jacob Rees-Mogg staunchly supporting Brexit, and making £7 million off it, Michelle Mone and Matt Hancock's sister making millions out of defective PPE for COVID, maintenance costs for listed Tory residences with moats paid as parliamentary expenses... need I go on? The Labour party are amateurs at this sort of thing.
Totally different, the tories were bought by the rich, Johnson paid for nothing.
It feels like the right-wing media held back on criticising Labour during the election, only to hit them hard now that they're in power-over issues their preferred party handled even worse.
The fact that this stuff is even coming up indicates how desperate they are to have something to talk about.
If this guy didn't have double standards he'd have no standards at all.
They are not double standards though. You just can't see the difference between accepting a gift as a gift or accepting gifts as bribes like Tories do.
Speaking of hsndouts. Our feudal Lords get 6.4 Billion in housing benefits payments. 😂
This is the real scandal.
Which brings us neatly back to Tony Blairs cash for peerages scandal.
@@jasonallen6081 It's appears you get knighted for defending the wealth divide.
The usual O'Brien desperate mental gymnastics to absolve Saint Keir of anything and everything
He says with a straight face that there is no left/liberal media as he sits there and defends Keir Starmer and Labour without question.
Are you honestly calling James O'Brien Left wing? He was more venomous towards Jeremy Corbyn than most of the right wing media
The Guardian for one. No left media, indeed.
The "media" in this case being LBC where the preceding show is hosted by the biggest Tory, to pick just one.
I'd have a straight face saying the same 🤷♂️
@@hobanagerik I can open the guardian right now and see multiple articles critical of Labour
Labour is not left... Trust me, most of us lefties hate Keir for this too.
It was wrong when Boris Johnson did it and it’s wrong when Kier Starmer does it. Now you’re falling prey to the “footballification” stuff you’re always slagging others off for.
Boris did not declare donations, Keir declared them much earlier and more clearer than the rules require. These things are not the same.
@@kevinsmarts9953because he was found out
Different rules when it's your tribe, eh James? Honestly these political pundits are hilarious with their blatant hypocrisy... Make a career out of bellyaching about every single thing from the "opposing" party but it's no big deal when it comes to their own. I'm pretty much a mix of views... Some left, some right... But I voted Labour to get Rishi out. And it seems to have made no difference to anything. If you vouch for someone you're meant to hold them to the highest standards, not make excuses because you want to "win" the argument.
Oh James, put down the bottle. Literally the most insufferable person on LBC.
I admire people who lead by example - We have to question people that don't.
Boris couldn't get away with being given a slice of birthday cake so I don't see why Kier should get away with anything... especially with Impartial Sue Gray advising him
@@MatthewSmith-j1l I have a lot of respect for Sue Grey holding Boris to account - one of the few people that did. If it wasn't for people like Sue Grey, our democracy would be heading the same way as the US even faster. I still have grave concerns for it.
@@KeithBattye One of the few people? Impartial Sue Gray was the ringleader of the massive partygate circus which included many in the media and the legal system.
Two wrongs don’t make a right ! You can’t excuse Starmer behaviour just because others have done similar
It is the Hypocrisy
"Labour" shouldn't be manipulated by billionaires.
Starmer is a tory in a red tie. The party exec threw out the real socialists. Liberals are the same, tories together, so they all behave the swen together. Shameful. I won't be a member of Labour ever again
So you don’t want an economy? You want Zimbabwe..
Even China now recognise that wealth is only created by capitalism. To drag millions out of poverty they allowed a few to become millionaires and billionaire.
@@johnrussell3961 being manipulated by them is not working with them now is it? If the rich paid their fair share of taxes there would be more than enough to have equality and growth. We will wait to see if tory in a red tie Starmer does Labour policies or not , to create prosperity, decency and equality
@@johnrussell3961Lol the commentors on LBC are all socialists mate if you have not noticed yet. All they talk about on here is taxing the rich more.. 😂
@@johnrussell3961 Millionaires and billionaires on a currency that has no actual value outside of the debt it has accrued, you mean.
More to the point, OP is pointing out that if the Torys were to have done the same, Labour would be heckling and jeering them with every slur out there and you know it. And I say that as someone who knows the parties only difference is their name and ribbon colour - they all answer to the same few regardless.
Defending the indefensible ..please James ,listen back to your pre election rants and recognise your hypocrisy on a grand scale.
even James couldnt suffer his own show. Britains second biggest twt behind his other hero Alastair Campbell
Trust James to defend champagne socialism. He once criticised private schooling then sent his own kids to one.
Leftist hypocrisy…don’t do as I do… do as I say…
It's a pretty bad look to be accepting luxury items as gifts when the rest of us are being told to tighten our belts 🤷♂
This isn't a new story it's fake outrage by the media, if you don't want them accepting hospitality then write to your MP to change the rules.
I'd rather it be declared and above board rather than under the table
Has James ever thought about how much influence does this donor have on the Labour Party at all?
Is he a real journalist?
He’s a Starmer moonboy what do you expect?
That’s the political system, parties rely on ‘donations’ I am less bothered about a Labour peer buying Starmer a suit than the Russians or Big Oil/ tobacco buying influence with the other parties
Tell me, what influence?
@@henryburton6529Brexit
@@henryburton6529well enough to get a downing st pass for starters
OK sorry O’Brien but this is the sort of cronyism that the Tories partook in for 14 years and with correct condemnation from yourself. Labour shouldn’t be indulging in the same behaviour.
It's the political game they play. None of them are different...
You obviously voted Labour, didn't you? You have been played and you need to accept it.
"I can't see what your problem is because whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout." It's another way of NOT LOOKING.
Laughable hypocrisy this bloke is a joker
Is it being treated as a much bigger story than it actually is? Yes.
Were the Tories magnitudes more guilty of this kind of behaviour and worse? Absolutely.
Is it still a morally incorrect thing to do? Yes.
Would you be able to accept tens of thousands of pounds of gifts in any other job without suspicions of corruption/impropriety? Absolutely no way.
Being less wrong doesn't make you right
Well put!
💯
Excellent analysis - Socratic method to understanding and knowledge perhaps.
its either illegal or it isn't, which is it?
@@shaun906It isn’t illegal to walk past somebody dying but still morally wrong 🤷🏼♂️
If this was the Tories now you'd be going to town in your condemnation of them.
Yes, of course he would. Hypocrisy was expected on this.
Undeclared back handers buying influence and the Tory press don't care Vs declared donations, no evidence of influence (yet) and the Labour are the devil.
Give your head a wobble.
Imagine the righteous indignation 😂
Except if it was the tories, the rules breaking would be transparent, and the sums involved would be vast. Thanks for playing, Barbie.
For what? Recieving donations, or something *even worse?*
If these people don't want influence in return for their 'gifts' then where do we all apply for our gifts from them ?
You can claim he followed the rules/procedure etc, but you could have just the same amount of outrage at the perception of impropriety as you had when Tories were doing it.
Sorry mate, I'm a lefty, and if this was the Tories you'd be apoplectic with rage....
James not reading the room here.
The room not reading how they're being played by the Tory media.
The gifts were declared a year ago, why the outrage now.
See also: client journalism.
James O Brian is payed for by who ever is in power
@@krisradjpaul278 If the Tories were paying him when they were in power then they should ask for their money back...
Perish the thought that centrists would criticise their golden boy, for the rest of us the leaf is flaking off.
James simply can’t be well. To be this infatuated with Liebour and to not have a balanced view is rather sad to see. He really needs to seek professional help.
The point is Starmer spent every minute scrutinising the tories about ethics and cronyism yet turns out to have had the largest amount of personal donations in parliament since 2019 and has given several donors top jobs or governmental perks.
😂😂
You wont get through james' thick skull plus he's a bought and paid for labour puppet so forget it
It's a bit like the snp up here,holier than thou and all that.
Evidence?
@@SandraT1107 have you been under a rock for the last month or so?
James ur moral compass is broken, I agree with all you said about the tories. But if you are not equally critical of the labour party then you come across as disingenuous and not a free thinker. I really question your ability to free think and your intellect, was your intellectual dismantelmant towards the tories fueled by personal gains?
Surely you can't be that switched on to their wrong doings and defend the Labour the way you are now?
Should be taxing them not taking freebies from them.
Is James playing dumb about this, or is he actually just dumb about this?
He doesn't like when his lot are dodgy like the last lot.
His mask has come off.
No he is not, I agree with him. The right have mastered the art of qualifying nonsense for something of worthy.
@@MzeeMoja1And you most likely agree with free movement of anyone, and don't see a problem with it.
Just dumb.
O brien is so indocrinated he will never see anything wrong with anything labour does. He's quite pathetic.
James, I thought you were against "whataboutism" but indulged copiously. These people earn enough to be able to fund their own work clothing given they claim allowances for almost every other facet of life as an MP.
Imagine if the tories were held to 1/10 the standard that Labour are held to.
you can't use Tory corruption to justify Labour corruption though
Imagine if the tories got away with 1/10 of what labour have.
sorry way worse 100/1
So your point is, 'Labour are corrupt but not as corrupt as the Tories'. That's ok then, 😂
@@Gambit771 What have Labour got away with? How does its value compare to the millions Tory mates and donors got away with?
Give James his due....... his mental gymnastics are amazing!
This guy talks about other peoples bias and in the same breath describes the issue being the ‘price of starmers spectacles’ - incredible 🤡
Oh look. It's another recently purchased bot farm account.
@@Cannon_Fodder_Russians haha nice try sweetheart. Disagreeing with Labour doesn’t make me a bot.
You lot are entertaining though so thanks for that 😂
James o’Brien the apologist in chief.
I will fall out of my chair the day I hear James admit that Labour and all Politicians play the same game the same way..
He is the anti Kuensberg. Will excuse anything Labour do.
Well they don't. Similarities, to a degree, but the same ...that's the Tory propaganda line.
@@verystripeyzebra No mate that is my astute observation. Similarities is too close. Do you seriously think Kier Starmer does not claim the same expenses that Boris did? Do you think Starmer panders to his donors any differently than Boris did? Do you think Starner will borrow money off the banks and drag the country further into debt just like Boris did? Do you think the lives of the people will improve under Starmer?
Here we go again.
I vote for no political party and never have since i was able to vote 16 years ago..
@@ibexdnb2879 yes. Things will improve.
I’ve been voting Labour since 1970. I’m a Party member. I expect Labour politicians to live on the income we pay them for a full-time job. Nothing else will do.I expect them to refuse gifts and treats from people who might be seeking access or influence.
I don't subscribe to the argument that two wrongs make a right..ie, just because Boris did it bigger, doesn't mean that Kier has done nothing wrong.
What we don't know is what donors get in return. As a member of the public, how does Lord Waheed Alli get a pass to Downing Street and I don't?
In fact..how did he become Lord Alli.....Tony Blair made him a Lord because of his donations to the Labour Party.
James Obrian loves the sound of his own voice
Er....he's a radio DJ hosting a talk show. I'm not sure it's a great job for a shy retiring quiet type.
A talk show host who talks? Oh No!
You should be very angry because Starmer said he wanted to clean up politics. He has shown on numerous occasions a terrible sense of judgement by accepting these "legal" donations while the average Labour voter and electorate is suffering so much because of the last government actions. And as the old saying goes, there's no such thing as a free lunch!
Double standards. Labour as bad as Tories. Snouts already in the trough in just eight weeks.
Starmer accepts he shouldn’t have done it , apologised for it, and declared he will not do it again.
Compare that with Boris. He defended the huge gift which redecorated his Downing Street flat to the bitter end.
Depressingly, that’s one reason why Bojo will always be more popular
Why did he do it in the first place? And not defending Boris here, but let's admit they are the same unfortunately...
Easy to say sorry after the event. If he doesn’t have the money to buy clothes himself how does he expect those subject to the 2 child benefit cap for example to manage
@@Bdistrict20 No human is perfect. If you are seeking perfection , become a Buddhist.
You win’t achieve it via the ballot box.
Talk is cheap.
James, you're supposed to be cross about the state of journalism, where the blatant hypocrisy is visibly and risably rife.
How can you be so against the conflict in the middle East currently, I am avoiding trigger words here. And at the same time defend the party who is currently fueling the conflict? James, today I see that you are a disingenuous person who speaks from both sides of his mouth.
Forked tongue syndrome.
They aren't gifts or freebies. Let's call them what they are. Bribes!
Exactly
You don't have to be annoyed it's a case of calling out bad practice
James, the next time you get angry at 'client journalists' on the Right, remember this period and cringe with embarrassment. I hope you're paid enough to debase yourself by tonguing Starver's ring every day.
Haha yes. He’s pathetic
it’s embarrassing at this point
@@crayontom9687 Yet here you are, listening and commenting - adding to the algorythm.
What does LBC stand for? Labour Broadcasting Corporation 🤔🙄
Its clearly a gift for influence, they should be allowed to take gifts at all. It doesn't matter that the rules allow for it, its something that shouldn't be allowed. Not for anybody
James you are so far up kier backside your starting to look like him
It doesn't take a genius to see that these gifts are buying influence, James, this is incredibly shoddy from you.
In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.
Corruption in public life is bad, especially of those who are paid by the public purse to represent their voters. It should be rooted out, and donations from the privileged 1% to MPs and political parties made illegal.
If it had been the Tories,he would be all over it
James O'Brien defending Labour doing exactly the same things as he pilloried the Tories for. He has always been a tool.
You see the thing is that James hated the Labour party when it was a socialist party funded by the membership as it looked like a threat to his beloved Establishment. Now it is being funded by the oligarchy the Establishment are safe so he can relax. No, we don’t expect James to be angry but watching himself twisting into a pretzel defending Labour corruption while simultaneously condemning the Tories for basically the same practices is just embarrassing.
Freebies issues only contribute to the dissatisfaction . Underlying it all is the fact of the small amount of the voting population that voted for the government with their particular brand of management.
That will not go away . The prime minister is now not appearing anywhere that a public voice can be spoken.
People aren’t angry about the free gifts, people are angry because they don’t know if their elderly relatives will make a cold winter, they are angry because the government might introduce pay per mile, they’re angry because the government claimed they would be different from the Tories, only to break their promises as soon as they got into power.
People are just angry that they are broke
O’Brien is happy for pensioners to be cold whilst starmer is sponging freebies
Labour propaganda at its finest
Oh dear this is the world we now live in 2 months down the line and the Labour Spuperfan is doing U turns........
If this was the tories ? Can you imagine the outrage. And the tories where corrupt.
Yes, James, let us, the general public, try and remember the past few years when such egregious activities involving huge amounts of dosh were carried out almost on a daily basis.
James O Brien stumbling clumsily past his hypocrisy .Does he honestly think that listeners are fooled by his laborious rhetoric and that he wouldnt be screaming about the criminal disgusting behaviour of the party if it was the Tories. How long did he bang on about partygate and skip past currygate.
Perhaps unintentional, but "the lie of the land" has an apt ring to it.
Sorry James, your tribalism is in fact showing here. Your what-aboutism arguments miss the point entirely. Everyday people are tired of politicians from all sides of the fence taking gifts, donations and hand outs from donors that clearly have a motive other than “because he’s me mate”. You’re better than this, pal.
JoB being a hypocrite...what a shocker...😂
The fact he follows politics so deeply and doesnt realise both sides are going to f over the common person is hard to believe
whataboutism doesnt cut it james. you used to be better than that, and thats why i unsubscribed. your blind sycophancy to new new labour sticks in the craw.
Nothing to see here folks. Only our poor millionaire PM taking freebies from a benevelent billionaire.
There is nothing wanted in return.
Didn`t you know that billionaires always give away their money for nothing.
E-mail Ali he may give you some as well.
only 1 person out ther who cant see labour are whrong is this guy for real no wonder his ratings are crashing
Out with John Sopal? The guy who was cosy to the Nat West Chief on a mission to get Farage debanked. Oh dear. You're a secret admirer of Farage, come on, admit it. You love Farage. You'd have no show without him.
Complete double standard, James.
How so? I'd love to hear it, I've been saying exactly what he's said for the last week or so.
It's not so much about wrongdoing as it is about degrees of wrongdoing. These things are like weeds. The more they are ignored, the more they tend to grow! It's been less than two months and already standards are slipping!
These “gifts’
Are not gifts and don’t come without some form of payment. They are used to sway political decisions.
100%
Politicians are allowed to accept "gifts". But other public service workers are not allowed to accept gifts? Why?
How to look a total clown in a few minutes.......
Who is benefitting from the Johnson wallpaper right now, which you spent a whole programme bellowing how dreadful that was. Of course now it’s Labour it’s all perfectly innocent.
This reflects American politics. The Conservative party list of "things they did" over 14 years is egregious. Undeniably egregious. And the historical events plague us as a country today, and will do for years to come, HS2 being an example. Right now, any Government that isn't them, is going to be pelted and dredged for everything they say and do. Some of it, like the donor (hardly a) "scandal", sits in the, "all politicians are the same" bucket. The way parliament works has been the same for years, regardless who is in power. Personally, there is a long, long way to go before I'll be saying the current lot are doing a bad job.
In the US, Kamala Harris is being scrutinised over everything she says, and even the slightest misstep is blown up, whereas Trump's obscene behaviour is judged on a curve - "it's just Trump being Trump".
I don't think JO'B is being partisan - he is simply giving balance to the "everyone should be outraged" rhetoric, and reminding us of where these current events sit in balance to things past.
The fact that the conservatives are corrupt does not excuse Labour's corruption.
As for Trump(vile individual that he is) there are no shortage of media outlets who criticize him so when it comes to him you are creating a straw man. Not to mention the fact that Kamala Harris has made it very clear she will carry on giving unconditional support to Israel's genocidal war in Gaza.
JO'B is being partisan because he is playing down Labour corruption by using " what about" tactics.
I feel like a freezing traveller invited in for a warm only to be offered a seat beside the fridge.
POLITICIANS SHOULD NOT TAKE FREEBIES
Why not? And what about freebies from members of their own party?
Yeah james has proved to me now 100% bias to labour if you get angry about boris and wall paper then you should about clothes and glasses for kier's wife its litterally the same thing.
Just because it's been going on for years or the values involved are much less than their opposition took doesn't mean it should continue.
I can't accept gifts from companies I work with as it would potentially be seen as a conflict of interest.
Are politicians above that?
This isn't the odd bottle of wine at Christmas, this is meaningful amounts of gifting, and people aren't giving their gifts for nothing.
Cant stand this side of JOB. They shouldnt be accepting any "gifts"!!!