I just wanted to let you know that you can replace the tensioner without removing the valve cover. You do not need to release the latch on the tensioner with a screwdriver after it is installed. If the tensioner is compressed all the way the latch will release itself. Engage the latch and install the tensioner, then you can use a socket on the crankshaft to rotate it slowly in a counter-clockwise direction. This will take the slack out of the timing chain without moving the cam sprocket. As the chain tightens it will depress the tensioner completely and release the latch. You can actually hear it click.
Awesome video, but I found somewhere that you can turn the crankshaft counter-clockwise until you hear the click of the latch releasing, and then turn it clockwise to make sure the tensioner released. It saves you the trouble of opening up your engine!
I also read on the 2zrfe engine they no longer have guide rails and even turning the engine by hand it will cause the chain to jump teeth. Any comments? I want to change this but worried something will go wrong. Thanks
You just turn the engine backwards a bit so it tensions the the slack side of the chain. It will push the plunger releasing the latch, the tensioner will pop out automatically 👍
24 September 2019 Thank you Peter Finn, this video helped a lot solving the problem on a Mitsubishi Colt Pick-up This LOAD TENSIONER is the SAME on the MITSUBISHI 4M40 Engine!!!!!! Thanks again! Kobus Pretoria, South Africa
Peter, To release the little retaining clip on the tensioner all you have to do is turn the engine over backwards with a wrench on the crank. It will release the clip by turning it about 180 degrees and you don't have to try to stick a screwdriver in through the valve cover.
Mike James I installed my tensioner and it wouldn’t go all the way in without pushing sorta hard so I could get the bolt on there. Every time I’d mess up and the tensioner would just expand and I’d have to reload it again. Then after finally getting it on I go to rotate the crank and it was really hard to rotate... it required a lot of torque.. not sure if that’s normal or not... and THEN my check engine light and slip indicator light came on and stayed on. Took it to advanced and it threw a p0016 code. Which means correlation between the cam shaft and timing chain.. I’m thinking some how some way I made it jump a tooth on the dam timing chain by trying to rotate the fucken crank smh now I don’t know what to do
@@tylersanders3818 Hi bro Just finish replacing the O-ring of tensioner Chain(following almost same but different people tutorials here in YT as well as in Toyota Nation), but my fear came when I try to start and then after starting I already heard some weird noise coming right where The tensioner and the chain is. I feel like I had done something wrong but as far As I remember I've done all right. It feels or sounds like the chain was more loosen, and now I'm sure there was something wrong to what I've done, zzz my bad.. I hope some of us here could help me about it, know something about it bro?
Draxus the timing chain could be worn out even tho it’s rare for that to happen it could have been worn making it a tad bit longer than it normally was. At that point you’d need a new timing chain. Before that tho make sure the right amount of oil is in there because running it low on oil will for sure have the timing chain and engine making noise
Draxus if the noise you hear is constantly going and you already have the right amount of oil in the motor then you’ll need a new timing chain, it is rare but sometimes they can stretch causing THAT problem
Great video. Very informative. My Toyota dealer told me $600 to fix an oil leak from my timing chain cover. I think it might just be the o-ring on the tensioner. Read that you need to hand turn the crankshaft to get the tensioner to unclip after it's installed.
You are very good at describing all your projects! I have watched several. Thanks for your thouroghness and patience. The word "tighten" is a little bit funny pronounced... but you´re O.K!! Keep on! Thanks for your clips!
btw..there is an "Inspection hole" on the front cover Crankcase Chain Cover, that is precisely meant to "FLIP" that Lock open that holds the spring in for installation..(it should be a rubber plug)
@@PeterFinnTheCarDoctor You gave wrong information for how to unhook the tensioner. YOu need to crank counterclockwise about a half turn and clockwise 1.5 full turn to put the tensioner in position. It is in dealer service manual
inside the tensioner is a small spring and valve! that lets oil pass through to help to tension the timing chain! the small hole in the valve can become blocked with sealant and will cause a noise from the timing chain as the engine warms up!
If l ever need to do this job I'm releasing the tensioner the way Pete describes here. It seems the safest and most certain way . But if l had to do it by turning the engine l would go counter clockwise as that would take the slack off the chain that is in contact with the tensioner and force it rearward, releasing the hook.
Hi Peter, I just removed the tensioner from my 2009 Corolla. I have a new tensioner that is locked in the closed (compressed) position but I am unable to get it in the engine far enough to secure with the bolts. I made sure it is not rotated 180° from the correct orientation. Is the black bumper supposed to move freely to allow the tensioner to be inserted? Could this part be seized I in my engine and preventing me from inserting this compressed tensioner? Thank you for your helpful videos!
Hey Jason, I'm having the same issue with my 2010 corolla (2zr-fe). How did you manage to get it installed again? Mine is sticking out by about half an inch, I can't even screw on the bolt caps. Your help would be appreciated, since I'm currently stuck without my car :(
Hi Peter, Your videos are great, even for a novice like me. My Toyota Avensis Verso VVTI engine makes a rattling noise when starting in the morning. When accelerating you can still hear it slightly, but its ten times worse in the morning. Could this be because of timing belt being loose? Any advise is really appreciated. I recently bought the car without noticing the problem. Thank you..
Roshen Britto Ok. You have little too long timing chain, but don't worry, your chain last. When noise is too hard and all time, please replace the chain.
Thank you for this wonderful video.your videos are very helpful. I replaced mine today then i started to rotate the pully forward and backward is that bad for the timing of the chain?
@@PeterFinnTheCarDoctor thank you peter for your advise.when i was done working on it on that day i started the engine didnt hear something wrong was running smooth but i will check the timing
I have a question my friend has a 2011 RAV4 2.5 vvti to make a long story short I found out it had no compression I pulled the valve cover and found all 8 intake rockers laying in the head, 5 of the 8 valves are stuck on which I assume are bent any idea on how that could of happened? I looked up the engine and read it's a non-interference engine even if the timing jumped it shouldn't have touched the valves, and help would be appreciated.
Hi my engine was forced backwards when my car stalled and rolled backwards in 1st gear, would this damage the tensioner. valves and timing are ok. engine is a 2tr-fe 2.7 hilux. Thanks.
Hello sir, may I ask if their is a reason you may want to take the timing chain tensioner out? Is this for cleaning purposes or is their a sort of upkeep? By the way I really like all your videos. I have an early 8th generation toyota corolla. While the car design is similar their are some minor differences so that I had to think outside the box. Having no prior mechanical knowledge
Hello, good question. Normally we take this tensioner out only, when we are disassembling the whole motor. And normally this tensioner last same time as timing chain estimate 300 000 miles/ 500 000 km or even more.
Hi Peter Finn, awesome video. I have a grinding noise for 1-2 seconds every time I start my 2010 Pontiac Vibe (1.8L toyota engine). Only happens if it has been sitting for a couple hours. I thought it was a sticky starter solenoid but replacing it did not fix the problem. Glad I found your videos on this engine!! Now I think the issue must be either the chain tensioner or the VVT-i camshaft gear. I have a couple questions if you could help me understand the problem: 1. What is the actual item that is rattling - is it the chain or something interfering in the engine? Will this eventually lead to the engine being damaged? I am not experienced in repair so if it is not causing damage I would rather not open up the engine. 2. I also get a bit of a shuddering when the engine is being pushed harder - is this because of an increase in oil pressure and caused by the same issue? 3. Maybe it is the VVT-i camshaft gear oil slowly draining out and back down into the pan - is there a gasket I can change to stop this? Possibly this would cause the shuddering at higher RPM as well as the higher pressure can not be maintained sufficiently by a leaky gasket. My car has 180,000 kms on it. This issue has been happening for about 10,000 km. thanks for the great videos - very informative for a hack like me!!!
+Peter Finn thanks a lot for helping me to understand. When you say "if engine works, you can drive" do you mean that this is not causing damage to the engine and I should not attempt any repair/replacement? Others online seem to think this rattle will eventually lead to damage. One individual wrote that he backed off the bolts on the tensioner until it clicked then tightened the bolts back down. Apparently this took up the extra slack in the chain and solved the issue - a good idea you think? www.toyotanation.com/forum/323-10th-gen-corolla-2nd-gen-matrix-engine-transmission-forum/395971-timing-chain-replacment.html
hi pete! I have a 2001 1.8 190 vvti and when I had the head gasket replaced the car doesn't want to rev over 6000 rpm which the vvti wont kick in. any ideas what the problem could be??? cheers
Hi, interesting issue. Please check all VVTi-systems electric cable wires connections and contacts again in motor area. Look my video VVTi system and cable wires: th-cam.com/video/T0G5KLN4a_w/w-d-xo.html
Nath Roberts u talking 600rpm? Or 6000? If at 6000 u don’t have vvt-I working then u have a big problem , to begin with u don’t usually need to reach 6000 rpm unless you’re on a race track , 6000 rpm is usually the red line anyways
Hellow Peter! Hi bro Just finish replacing the O-ring (it's getting oil leak) of tensioner Chain by just pulling out then it. (following almost same but different people tutorials here in TH-cam as well as in Toyota Nation), but my fear came when I put it all back in and I try to start and then after starting I already heard some weird noise coming right where the tensioner and the timing chain is. I thinkt' is getting more RATTLING SOUND before I turned off the engine. I feel like I had done something wrong also but as far As I remember I've done all right. It feels or sounds like the chain was more loosen and rattling, and now I'm sure there was something wrong to what I've done, zzz my bad.. I hope some of us here could help me about it, know something about it bro?
Is the 2.4 4cyl engine same as 1.8 corolla fix? Or only on the 1.8 4cyl corolla? Engine is different than 2.4 not as much room on 2.4 plus engine he works on is out of the car soooo look like
Hi peter iam george engenear from korinthos greece.the problem is that i replace o ring and oil leak no stop... i used and liquid red gascet and i wait 2hours before run the engine....the problem is problem... i dont no ...please peter help me ....thanks ... George GREECE
Dear Peter. Your demonstration has been very informative. Thank you very much. However, I still have one question. Is it, in your opinion, easy to release the hook from the timing chain tensioner's piston with the timing chain cover on the vehicle? Is there room? Thanks!
My Toyota Yaris 1.3vvti 2001. hawe a problem! in low RPM to 2000 RPM it interruption! diagnosis show error 1349! What do you mean? Thanks and hallo and respect from Serbia!
We had our '99 Corolla 1ZZFE engine rebuilt (according to this video 1ZZFE Oil Consumption Fix How-To 8th Gen VVTi Corolla +similar) and it started beautifully, but the mechanic put too much liquid gasket on the tensioner and it started smoking a lot. Anyway, he took out the tensioner to clean the liquid gasket off and it fell apart (spring and ball came out), so he installed a new tensioner. When the engine was restarted, we heard a strange sound by the timing chain (like jiggling a wrist bracelet), but it eventually went away (or got a lot less noticable). 1500 mi later, the oil pressure light went on and this was the engine sound (docs.google.com/file/d/0By-X...p=docslist_api). Now I wonder if the tensioner hole was clogged per Mr Fixit's comment, which caused the tensioner to fail. So the lesson is, the tensioner is a simple thing, but if it is installed incorrectly or the timing chain guide it acts upon slips, you could end up with a loose timing chain, damage to the main and rod bearings due to the vibration, loss of oil pressure and death of the engine (like me). Beware!
youeweu Hello. It sounds, that you have been really bad luck and your mechanic has not to be a top Toyota engine specialist. This engine assembly and timing chain set up are most difficult tasks in car service. Not a kids and trainees jobs ! And Thanks for your info.
Ha anyone on here had an issue where the old tensioner is stuck in like it’s caught on something(maybe to the chain?). I remove the nuts holding it and it comes out a smidge but it literally feels like there is something it’s caught on, not sure what to do to get it to pop out, I could fit the end of a screwdriver in the gap, but even gently coaxing it, it’s like it’s caught, any ideas? Thanks
I locked my tensioner but it won't go in the engine, not even enough to thread on the 2 nuts - it's like my chain guide is stuck there or something please help
@@PeterFinnTheCarDoctor Thanks for the reply, it's hard to get a hammer down there, engine is installed and cam chain cover still on. Car is Toyota Celica...does it usually require a lot of force to get in?
thank you Peter! the oil pressure is still low after the mechanic changed the timing chain. He is saying he can examine the condition of the pump with a special camera through the oil plug, without taking apart the engine cover. Is that true or not? I think he should take it apart as you have in your other video and check the tolerances with a gauge. About this video on the tensioner, could the chain still be loose if the tensioner is fully extended, if the guide slips or brown plastic guide surface is worn?
hi peter finn..i have had a persistent problem with my harrier 2004 model with a 1mz fe engine..3.0l..it makes a loud jerking sound when changing gear or when disengaging from gear 3 downwards.it also does not have power.I have changed the transmission fluid,the tensioner and belt,oil,plugs etc but no change.A recent mechanic says that i have to replace the gear now.what could be the problem?
Hello Peter, I have a question ...I hope you can help. I have a Toyota Avensis 1.8 vvti station wagon (2005) motorcode: 1ZZU.. There was a complete engine overhaul, due to engine oil consumption, like chain control replacement and cylinder head replacement. After that the engine is ringing / rattling for 1 second but only if the car is parked for several hours. I also made a video, if you can tell me what the problem is, I'd appreciate it, my mechanic said this sound is completely normal. I think it is not at all good for an engine to rumble at startup. Master what is your opinion? ttps://th-cam.com/video/695WONXoqrs/w-d-xo.html Thank You!
My Question is: If the 10mm threaded shafts could have been an inch longer? So the Nuts would pull it in Unlocked This Prosses would be! Remove 10mm Nuts! Replace Old Junk with new Junk and replace Old Gasket with new Gasket! No Seal Gasket Adhesive and Turn This Engine Clockwise and 2009 Counter Clockwise and listen for the Click? The Threaded nut shafts are to short! I see how it works now that I did one and the timing Chain needs to be in the right tension to install this! Otherwise if you don't do it right your engine in finished! No covers need to be removed but Watch all the TH-cam Vids to do this Job! If you do it wrong you will know when you turn the key! I just for the first time did a 2010 and you have to turn the cam Counter Clockwise a 2008 Goes Clockwise to unlock the tensioner! If the morons at Toyota and Lexus could have made the Nut shafts an Inch longer this BS process would not happen and its a LEXUS Recall on VVT but not Toyota for Safety? Hey You Got Airbags Your on your Own! Lexus is a Toyota and Same Engine Same Problem! Same Tensioner!
I just wanted to let you know that you can replace the tensioner without removing the valve cover. You do not need to release the latch on the tensioner with a screwdriver after it is installed. If the tensioner is compressed all the way the latch will release itself. Engage the latch and install the tensioner, then you can use a socket on the crankshaft to rotate it slowly in a counter-clockwise direction. This will take the slack out of the timing chain without moving the cam sprocket. As the chain tightens it will depress the tensioner completely and release the latch. You can actually hear it click.
Randy M Many Thanks.
I though i saw some mechanics says clockwise.
It's actually in the clockwise direction.
@@uchekindness8698 Counter clockwise puts tension on the chain .
@@uchekindness8698 Per Haynes manual the 2008 and older 1.8L states it's clockwise, 2009 and later 1.8L Haynes manual states CCW *then* CW
You have to turn the engine manually clockwise after inserting the tensioner Wait for the click of the tensioner before staring the engine
Awesome video, but I found somewhere that you can turn the crankshaft counter-clockwise until you hear the click of the latch releasing, and then turn it clockwise to make sure the tensioner released. It saves you the trouble of opening up your engine!
geekometer96 Yes, this way works also.
This is the only way to do it. LOL.
I also read on the 2zrfe engine they no longer have guide rails and even turning the engine by hand it will cause the chain to jump teeth. Any comments? I want to change this but worried something will go wrong. Thanks
You just turn the engine backwards a bit so it tensions the the slack side of the chain. It will push the plunger releasing the latch, the tensioner will pop out automatically 👍
Good comment, Thanks 👍
24 September 2019
Thank you Peter Finn, this video helped a lot solving the problem on a Mitsubishi Colt Pick-up
This LOAD TENSIONER is the SAME on the MITSUBISHI 4M40 Engine!!!!!!
Thanks again!
Kobus
Pretoria, South Africa
kobus have you ever dealt with a sino truck
This video just saved me. I am putting together a 1zz Toyota motor and needed this information to finish. Thank you, Peter! :)
LD9user Thanks. And good work to You.
That god doctor
Peter, To release the little retaining clip on the tensioner all you have to do is turn the engine over backwards with a wrench on the crank. It will release the clip by turning it about 180 degrees and you don't have to try to stick a screwdriver in through the valve cover.
+Mike James Thanks for comment. :-)
Mike James I installed my tensioner and it wouldn’t go all the way in without pushing sorta hard so I could get the bolt on there. Every time I’d mess up and the tensioner would just expand and I’d have to reload it again. Then after finally getting it on I go to rotate the crank and it was really hard to rotate... it required a lot of torque.. not sure if that’s normal or not... and THEN my check engine light and slip indicator light came on and stayed on. Took it to advanced and it threw a p0016 code. Which means correlation between the cam shaft and timing chain.. I’m thinking some how some way I made it jump a tooth on the dam timing chain by trying to rotate the fucken crank smh now I don’t know what to do
@@tylersanders3818 Hi bro Just finish replacing the O-ring of tensioner Chain(following almost same but different people tutorials here in YT as well as in Toyota Nation), but my fear came when I try to start and then after starting I already heard some weird noise coming right where The tensioner and the chain is. I feel like I had done something wrong but as far As I remember I've done all right.
It feels or sounds like the chain was more loosen, and now I'm sure there was something wrong to what I've done, zzz my bad.. I hope some of us here could help me about it, know something about it bro?
Draxus the timing chain could be worn out even tho it’s rare for that to happen it could have been worn making it a tad bit longer than it normally was. At that point you’d need a new timing chain. Before that tho make sure the right amount of oil is in there because running it low on oil will for sure have the timing chain and engine making noise
Draxus if the noise you hear is constantly going and you already have the right amount of oil in the motor then you’ll need a new timing chain, it is rare but sometimes they can stretch causing THAT problem
Excellent video Peter, Keep up the good work.
Thank You for comment. Best Regard Peter Finn
Excellent video, very detailed. Thank you!
Thanks and Good comment. :-)
Great video. Very informative. My Toyota dealer told me $600 to fix an oil leak from my timing chain cover. I think it might just be the o-ring on the tensioner.
Read that you need to hand turn the crankshaft to get the tensioner to unclip after it's installed.
***** Good work.
My repairmen quoted $400. Ok so that little tensioner is either way expensive!
You are very good at describing all your projects! I have watched several. Thanks for your thouroghness and patience.
The word "tighten" is a little bit funny pronounced... but you´re O.K!! Keep on! Thanks for your clips!
Thanks for feedback. I correct the "tighten" word. And please send more word info in future too. Thanks!
Obrigado, ajudou muito
Hi Peter, Thank you for your videos
Thanks for watching!
btw..there is an "Inspection hole" on the front cover Crankcase Chain Cover, that is precisely meant to "FLIP" that Lock open that holds the spring in for installation..(it should be a rubber plug)
Yes and Thanks for comment. :-)
@@PeterFinnTheCarDoctor You gave wrong information for how to unhook the tensioner. YOu need to crank counterclockwise about a half turn and clockwise 1.5 full turn to put the tensioner in position. It is in dealer service manual
inside the tensioner is a small spring and valve! that lets oil pass through to help to tension the timing chain! the small hole in the valve can become blocked with sealant and will cause a noise from the timing chain as the engine warms up!
Thanks for info.
you are the best car docter👍keep up doing the good work
Thanks, will do!
I need to know what you are a good car doctor like me
Bolshoe spaseeba, Peter for your helpful video :-)
Excellent!
Good series of videos very detailed.
Thanks. I try to do my best. :-)
Thank you so much for the information
Thanks Sir. :-)
What if you break one of the bolts? By getting it too tight? Can you fix it? Since it’s attached to the engine.
If l ever need to do this job I'm releasing the tensioner the way Pete describes here. It seems the safest and most certain way . But if l had to do it by turning the engine l would go counter clockwise as that would take the slack off the chain that is in contact with the tensioner and force it rearward, releasing the hook.
It sounds absolutely wonderful! You are a great guy and a wise man. thank you
nice video the vvti engine is very interesting how is design to work all the parts
Yes, I agree. :-)
Once installed and turning motor, what piece of hardware releases that hook allowing the bolt to pop into place?
the chain tension pushes the plunger in and it releases the hook
Hi Peter,
I just removed the tensioner from my 2009 Corolla. I have a new tensioner that is locked in the closed (compressed) position but I am unable to get it in the engine far enough to secure with the bolts. I made sure it is not rotated 180° from the correct orientation. Is the black bumper supposed to move freely to allow the tensioner to be inserted? Could this part be seized I in my engine and preventing me from inserting this compressed tensioner?
Thank you for your helpful videos!
Hey Jason, I'm having the same issue with my 2010 corolla (2zr-fe). How did you manage to get it installed again? Mine is sticking out by about half an inch, I can't even screw on the bolt caps.
Your help would be appreciated, since I'm currently stuck without my car :(
This lady install the tensioner effortlessly....
No need to open the cover.
th-cam.com/video/mmbvYEXZ9ds/w-d-xo.html
Hi Peter,
Your videos are great, even for a novice like me.
My Toyota Avensis Verso VVTI engine makes a rattling noise when starting in the morning. When accelerating you can still hear it slightly, but its ten times worse in the morning. Could this be because of timing belt being loose? Any advise is really appreciated. I recently bought the car without noticing the problem. Thank you..
Roshen Britto Ok. You have little too long timing chain, but don't worry, your chain last. When noise is too hard and all time, please replace the chain.
Great.... Really helpful
You are Welcome Sir. :-)
Thank you for this wonderful video.your videos are very helpful.
I replaced mine today then i started to rotate the pully forward and backward is that bad for the timing of the chain?
Hi, please check timing chain markings again. If we rotate the chain backward, the chain can jump wrong position.
@@PeterFinnTheCarDoctor thank you peter for your advise.when i was done working on it on that day i started the engine didnt hear something wrong was running smooth but i will check the timing
I have a question my friend has a 2011 RAV4 2.5 vvti to make a long story short I found out it had no compression I pulled the valve cover and found all 8 intake rockers laying in the head, 5 of the 8 valves are stuck on which I assume are bent any idea on how that could of happened? I looked up the engine and read it's a non-interference engine even if the timing jumped it shouldn't have touched the valves, and help would be appreciated.
Thanks, very strange thing.
Do you know if the 4.0 on a 2007 FJ Cruiser uses this same tensioner?
MAybe no
curious, can the tensioner be replaced without removing the front engine components? what all needs to be removed to make this repair.
yes
do you have a picture of the crank and oil pump gear assembly? Thanks
Hi, you need a repair manual. Haynes?
thanks for your video. could you post a video about A/C compressor clutch less for toyota camry 2007?
Thanks for info. I planning to work with Camry.
Peter Finn thank you very much. I am waiting.
Thanks so math! It's vary interesting because i need change same tensioner on Toyota engine 1nr-fe!
Саня Поздняков Thank You.
Hi my engine was forced backwards when my car stalled and rolled backwards in 1st gear, would this damage the tensioner. valves and timing are ok. engine is a 2tr-fe 2.7 hilux.
Thanks.
+carlin hicks Hello. Toyota engines are robust like steel. Your engine should be OK.
Do you have to take the engine out to do the job or can it be done with the engine still in the car?
You can also do this with engine on in car.
Thanks
Hello sir, may I ask if their is a reason you may want to take the timing chain tensioner out? Is this for cleaning purposes or is their a sort of upkeep? By the way I really like all your videos. I have an early 8th generation toyota corolla. While the car design is similar their are some minor differences so that I had to think outside the box. Having no prior mechanical knowledge
Hello, good question. Normally we take this tensioner out only, when we are disassembling the whole motor. And normally this tensioner last same time as timing chain estimate 300 000 miles/ 500 000 km or even more.
Or if you want to service the valve stem seals
Hi Peter Finn, awesome video. I have a grinding noise for 1-2 seconds every time I start my 2010 Pontiac Vibe (1.8L toyota engine). Only happens if it has been sitting for a couple hours. I thought it was a sticky starter solenoid but replacing it did not fix the problem. Glad I found your videos on this engine!!
Now I think the issue must be either the chain tensioner or the VVT-i camshaft gear. I have a couple questions if you could help me understand the problem:
1. What is the actual item that is rattling - is it the chain or something interfering in the engine? Will this eventually lead to the engine being damaged? I am not experienced in repair so if it is not causing damage I would rather not open up the engine.
2. I also get a bit of a shuddering when the engine is being pushed harder - is this because of an increase in oil pressure and caused by the same issue?
3. Maybe it is the VVT-i camshaft gear oil slowly draining out and back down into the pan - is there a gasket I can change to stop this? Possibly this would cause the shuddering at higher RPM as well as the higher pressure can not be maintained sufficiently by a leaky gasket.
My car has 180,000 kms on it. This issue has been happening for about 10,000 km.
thanks for the great videos - very informative for a hack like me!!!
+Olas Hi, Here are some answers:
1) The chain. It stretch.
2) Engines vibrates when old
3) It could be
If engine works, you can drive.
+Peter Finn thanks a lot for helping me to understand. When you say "if engine works, you can drive" do you mean that this is not causing damage to the engine and I should not attempt any repair/replacement?
Others online seem to think this rattle will eventually lead to damage. One individual wrote that he backed off the bolts on the tensioner until it clicked then tightened the bolts back down. Apparently this took up the extra slack in the chain and solved the issue - a good idea you think?
www.toyotanation.com/forum/323-10th-gen-corolla-2nd-gen-matrix-engine-transmission-forum/395971-timing-chain-replacment.html
+Olas There is a TSB about this issue. Replace the Camshaft Timing Gear.
Anderson D Intake or Exhaust Cam Gear? Link to TSB or TSB Name/Number? Thanks
thnank u man ,but when i replace valve cover gasket is that necessary to clean the tension timing chain
No. You need this tensioner in cylinder head change.
thnx
hi pete! I have a 2001 1.8 190 vvti and when I had the head gasket replaced the car doesn't want to rev over 6000 rpm which the vvti wont kick in. any ideas what the problem could be??? cheers
Hi, interesting issue. Please check all VVTi-systems electric cable wires connections and contacts again in motor area. Look my video VVTi system and cable wires: th-cam.com/video/T0G5KLN4a_w/w-d-xo.html
Nath Roberts u talking 600rpm? Or 6000? If at 6000 u don’t have vvt-I working then u have a big problem , to begin with u don’t usually need to reach 6000 rpm unless you’re on a race track , 6000 rpm is usually the red line anyways
Hellow Peter! Hi bro Just finish replacing the O-ring (it's getting oil leak) of tensioner Chain by just pulling out then it. (following almost same but different people tutorials here in TH-cam as well as in Toyota Nation), but my fear came when I put it all back in and I try to start and then after starting I already heard some weird noise coming right where the tensioner and the timing chain is. I thinkt' is getting more RATTLING SOUND before I turned off the engine. I feel like I had done something wrong also but as far As I remember I've done all right.
It feels or sounds like the chain was more loosen and rattling, and now I'm sure there was something wrong to what I've done, zzz my bad.. I hope some of us here could help me about it, know something about it bro?
Hi, you made something wrong. So repeat it again
Why repeat when it was wrong?
hello peter. i wanna ask you . where is vehcile speed sensor location in camry 2010 . 2.4 engine .. thanks alot.
Hi, I will do new video.
Do you have viber or whatsapp?
Is the 2.4 4cyl engine same as 1.8 corolla fix? Or only on the 1.8 4cyl corolla? Engine is different than 2.4 not as much room on 2.4 plus engine he works on is out of the car soooo look like
Almost similar.
You good job
Thanks
Whats this car. Milleage while. Doing this replacement. Many thanks. I think. My reliable vios also needs this. Change.
Toyota Corolla. year 2002. Miles 150 000 miles.
Peter I love your videos but for the love of God do you have to keep repeating every single word!!! Lol
Hi peter iam george engenear from korinthos greece.the problem is that i replace o ring and oil leak no stop... i used and liquid red gascet and i wait 2hours before run the engine....the problem is problem... i dont no ...please peter help me ....thanks ...
George GREECE
George Rousakis Hello. Could you send video or picture to me on your oil leak? Send link please.
HI the clip will be release by it self after instill the tensioner and turn the crankshaft
Thank You for comment. :-)
Nothing to do with the electrical side. Had that checked. Lot of people think it could be the lift bolts. Do you
Think that??
Hi, this tensioner is very simple. There is spring inside.
Get your cams in the right spot. INTAKE CAM ON LEFT
Thanks for feedback. :-)
Dear Peter.
Your demonstration has been very informative. Thank you very much. However, I still have one question. Is it, in your opinion, easy to release the hook from the timing chain tensioner's piston with the timing chain cover on the vehicle? Is there room? Thanks!
Hi, it is possible to release when cylinder head cover is open. And it is accurate job.
Thanks!
My Toyota Yaris 1.3vvti 2001. hawe a problem! in low RPM to 2000 RPM it interruption! diagnosis show error 1349! What do you mean? Thanks and hallo and respect from Serbia!
Hello, here are possible reasons, please check:
- Dirty or low engine oil
- Valve timing
- Oil control valve
- Variable Valve Timing controller assembly
- Engine Control Module (ECM)
engine-codes.com/uploads/toyota/EG007-03.pdf
www.google.fi/#q=toyota+error+code+p1349
Read more: engine-codes.com/p1349_toyota.html#ixzz2rxWFRrrr
Thanks! It was Variable Valve Timing controller.
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We had our '99 Corolla 1ZZFE engine rebuilt (according to this video 1ZZFE Oil Consumption Fix How-To 8th Gen VVTi Corolla +similar) and it started beautifully, but the mechanic put too much liquid gasket on the tensioner and it started smoking a lot. Anyway, he took out the tensioner to clean the liquid gasket off and it fell apart (spring and ball came out), so he installed a new tensioner. When the engine was restarted, we heard a strange sound by the timing chain (like jiggling a wrist bracelet), but it eventually went away (or got a lot less noticable). 1500 mi later, the oil pressure light went on and this was the engine sound (docs.google.com/file/d/0By-X...p=docslist_api). Now I wonder if the tensioner hole was clogged per Mr Fixit's comment, which caused the tensioner to fail. So the lesson is, the tensioner is a simple thing, but if it is installed incorrectly or the timing chain guide it acts upon slips, you could end up with a loose timing chain, damage to the main and rod bearings due to the vibration, loss of oil pressure and death of the engine (like me). Beware!
youeweu Hello. It sounds, that you have been really bad luck and your mechanic has not to be a top Toyota engine specialist. This engine assembly and timing chain set up are most difficult tasks in car service. Not a kids and trainees jobs ! And Thanks for your info.
Can the timing tensionar make noise in the engine when the timing chain is rotating ❓❓❓
Yes
question. ..why we don't put all ready open?
+jameel jamal There is special adjusting spring.
Thanks
You just turn the crank and the clip pops open on the tensioner.
Ok and Thanks. :-)
could you check the condition of your chain this way??
Little
@@PeterFinnTheCarDoctor they could make a easy tool.. to fit in and shows the total strech .. i wonder if its on the market
Ok so thats the click letting go when u turn the pulley after installation, gottit!
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Oil leak/seepage occurs after a period of time..need to reseal with new liquid gasket.
That's right.
Ha anyone on here had an issue where the old tensioner is stuck in like it’s caught on something(maybe to the chain?). I remove the nuts holding it and it comes out a smidge but it literally feels like there is something it’s caught on, not sure what to do to get it to pop out, I could fit the end of a screwdriver in the gap, but even gently coaxing it, it’s like it’s caught, any ideas? Thanks
Ok and Thanks 👍😃
Peter Finn the Car Doctor that didn’t really answer my question at all 🙂. But I like your videos so thanks
I wonder if this guy has understood how it works and why there is a not-returning latch ...
Thanks and good idea. 👍
I locked my tensioner but it won't go in the engine, not even enough to thread on the 2 nuts - it's like my chain guide is stuck there or something please help
Hi, please hammer it by sides
@@PeterFinnTheCarDoctor Thanks for the reply, it's hard to get a hammer down there, engine is installed and cam chain cover still on. Car is Toyota Celica...does it usually require a lot of force to get in?
Yes.
One question: where is the oil pump in this picture?
youeweu Hello. Here is video on oil pump: th-cam.com/video/p9QDRUT_YZc/w-d-xo.html
thank you Peter! the oil pressure is still low after the mechanic changed the timing chain. He is saying he can examine the condition of the pump with a special camera through the oil plug, without taking apart the engine cover. Is that true or not? I think he should take it apart as you have in your other video and check the tolerances with a gauge.
About this video on the tensioner, could the chain still be loose if the tensioner is fully extended, if the guide slips or brown plastic guide surface is worn?
Does any one know the dimensions of the O ring?
Thanks 👍😀
hi peter finn..i have had a persistent problem with my harrier 2004 model with a 1mz fe engine..3.0l..it makes a loud jerking sound when changing gear or when disengaging from gear 3 downwards.it also does not have power.I have changed the transmission fluid,the tensioner and belt,oil,plugs etc but no change.A recent mechanic says that i have to replace the gear now.what could be the problem?
+Eng Gachengo Yes, the your sound looks like bearing issue.
+Peter Finn so I have to buy a new gearbox?
Yes, I suppose so.
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Good to hear. :-)
45 ft pounds to 50 ft pounds nomore or it will strip
How are you also
Great Sir
tansx
And then this part becomes in here
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Hello Peter,
I have a question ...I hope you can help.
I have a Toyota Avensis 1.8 vvti station wagon (2005) motorcode: 1ZZU..
There was a complete engine overhaul, due to engine oil consumption, like chain control replacement and cylinder head replacement.
After that the engine is ringing / rattling for 1 second but only if the car is parked for several hours.
I also made a video, if you can tell me what the problem is, I'd appreciate it, my mechanic said this sound is completely normal.
I think it is not at all good for an engine to rumble at startup.
Master what is your opinion?
ttps://th-cam.com/video/695WONXoqrs/w-d-xo.html
Thank You!
Oky
Thanks Man ! 👍
his accent is so strong that his spoken English is barely understandable
Good comment and Thanks ! 😀👍
My Question is: If the 10mm threaded shafts could have been an inch longer? So the Nuts would pull it in Unlocked This Prosses would be!
Remove 10mm Nuts! Replace Old Junk with new Junk and replace Old Gasket with new Gasket! No Seal Gasket Adhesive and Turn This Engine Clockwise and 2009 Counter Clockwise and listen for the Click? The Threaded nut shafts are to short! I see how it works now that I did one and the timing Chain needs to be in the right tension to install this! Otherwise if you don't do it right your engine in finished! No covers need to be removed but Watch all the TH-cam Vids to do this Job! If you do it wrong you will know when you turn the key!
I just for the first time did a 2010 and you have to turn the cam Counter Clockwise a 2008 Goes Clockwise to unlock the tensioner! If the morons at Toyota and Lexus could have made the Nut shafts an Inch longer this BS process would not happen and its a LEXUS Recall on VVT but not Toyota for Safety? Hey You Got Airbags Your on your Own! Lexus is a Toyota and Same Engine Same Problem! Same Tensioner!
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