In my opinion, the admissions by Graham Poll and Mark Clattenburg of holding biases and grudges against certain clubs and fanbases, alongside David Coote’s inappropriate remarks towards Klopp, the volume of inconsistent decisions, and clips showing referees revealing they were directed to be untruthful by the PGMOL and to give favorable decisions, all suggest a deeply flawed system that could reasonably be seen as compromising fairness.
'Men' like you is why the place is in bits! Us White folk have been slagging each other for hundreds of years, no problem. Suddenly, you want a man to lose his living for exactly that! ..., stop saying you're not someone this or you're not someone that! You are, you're heading the cancelling of this man for a private conversation!
The dobble standard shown by Terry is a new low for this channel. To expect that refs dont have an opinion on teams, managers and players is just naive. This whole thing with Coote has been blown way out of porportions. Not surprising though, since Terry has been driving this agenda for years. And i guess it does not help when all these lemmings are eating it up raw. It only goes to boost up he's ego and make him think that he is some kind of savior of football.
It's never been a secret that Chelsea are hated by referees since Mou made it public there was a campaign. The decisions made by Mark Clattenburg, Martin Artikinson, Howard Webb, Mike Dean and the most blatantly obvious one Anthony Taylor in Chelsea games have never been in question to a neutral. Now, with the emergency of David Coote and Michael Oliver biases against Arsenal and Liverpool respectively, the entire PGMOL needs to be investigated and held accountable. Notice how only 2 clubs have won a premier league when everyone agrees refs helped them? Both are manchester clubs. If other clubs and their fans don't step up, this nonsense won't stop. I have a feeling there's an agenda to have a manchester dominance over the prem. Yes, they're rivals but notice how refs would rather let city win than liverpool? In fact, they'd rather let city win than chelsea or arsenal lmao. This isn't a joke. When Utd fell off, city emerged. If city fall off, utd will return to their glory. Look at the treatment of chelsea under sanctions and then look at city under 115. If arsenal or liverpool ever face sanctions, they'll be treated like chelsea. Utd will be treated like city. We're soon starting to realize who are the real FA and media clubs. You're a moron if you think a non manchester club has a say in the FA or PGMOL. This is insane. These lot including the uk gov't were willing to liquidate chelsea over a war the club didn't start. Arsenal or liverpool are next in line.
Howard Webb is a major issue way back when he was a referee. Webb should never be head of PGMOL. Howard Webb has a beef with Liverpool and once told Luis Suarez to get up when he had been fouled in the box in an FA Cup quarter finals at the Emirates
@@CG.G8 don't get rid of it just have it run by none refs present or ex... Have it as the over site of the refs which is what it should be in the first place.
I personally don't think the PGMOL can be fixed. The rot of Webbs influence and the old boys club mentality runs right through it. The reputation of english refereeing is at its lowest point. How often do you see a PGMOL man in a top European tie? Not often. The PGMOL is a cancer at the heart of the English game, and it must be cut out and burned. Anything Webb is involved with is doomed to carry on poisoning the game.
@bigtoe333333 In other words, what you saying is the Prem League, FA and Football League is a cancer. You realize the PGMOL is a non profit organization. How about getting competent referees non bias referees to officiate matches for example the biggest rivalry in English Football is Liverpool vs man United. Why do referees from Manchester get to referee Liverpool matches like Cootes?
@@LFC_RAD , who said the PL was a cancer "in other words"? Stop inventing strawman arguments that I never made. By the way, the PGMOL might be non profit, but their salaries are high, e.g. £65k per game. So again, a side tracking non-argument to distract from the key issues. If this is your method of debating then you can play in the YT comments on your own, I'm not interested.
Quite simply, the PGMOL must be criminally investigated, all their electronic devices and social media accounts seized, immediately, and the lot of them investigated for bribery, corruption and tax avoidance. I want to see multiple prison sentences for this bunch of crooks.
What for?! For causing you emotional damage,- where this will end up, calling you a c..nt on facebook? Sacked - yes, banned from referring - yes, prison - wtf, are you mad?!
It's never been a secret that Chelsea are hated by referees since Mou made it public there was a campaign. The decisions made by Mark Clattenburg, Martin Artikinson, Howard Webb, Mike Dean and the most blatantly obvious one Anthony Taylor in Chelsea games have never been in question to a neutral. Now, with the emergency of David Coote and Michael Oliver biases against Arsenal and Liverpool respectively, the entire PGMOL needs to be investigated and held accountable. Notice how only 2 clubs have won a premier league when everyone agrees refs helped them? Both are manchester clubs. If other clubs and their fans don't step up, this nonsense won't stop. I have a feeling there's an agenda to have a manchester dominance over the prem. Yes, they're rivals but notice how refs would rather let city win than liverpool? In fact, they'd rather let city win than chelsea or arsenal lmao. This isn't a joke. When Utd fell off, city emerged. If city fall off, utd will return to their glory. Look at the treatment of chelsea under sanctions and then look at city under 115. If arsenal or liverpool ever face sanctions, they'll be treated like chelsea. Utd will be treated like city. We're soon starting to realize who are the real FA and media clubs. You're a moron if you think a non manchester club has a say in the FA or PGMOL. This is insane. These lot including the uk gov't were willing to liquidate chelsea over a war the club didn't start. Arsenal or liverpool are next in line.
@zeltazobs What for? Are you completely brainless? There is huge amounts of money involved here, that those clubs lost because of this. That, to me, is fraud. INVESTIGATE THE PGMOL ASAP!
Funny thing bad referring decisions started with the Bruno Fernandes offside call and y'all including Terry said by the letter of the law it wasn't offside and now want to cry foul years later
Facts! I watch European football & the refereeing there is on a different level, we hardly notice the ref. In England the refs want to be the stars of the show.
It's never been a secret that Chelsea are hated by referees since Mou made it public there was a campaign. The decisions made by Mark Clattenburg, Martin Artikinson, Howard Webb, Mike Dean and the most blatantly obvious one Anthony Taylor in Chelsea games have never been in question to a neutral. Now, with the emergency of David Coote and Michael Oliver biases against Arsenal and Liverpool respectively, the entire PGMOL needs to be investigated and held accountable. Notice how only 2 clubs have won a premier league when everyone agrees refs helped them? Both are manchester clubs. If other clubs and their fans don't step up, this nonsense won't stop. I have a feeling there's an agenda to have a manchester dominance over the prem. Yes, they're rivals but notice how refs would rather let city win than liverpool? In fact, they'd rather let city win than chelsea or arsenal lmao. This isn't a joke. When Utd fell off, city emerged. If city fall off, utd will return to their glory. Look at the treatment of chelsea under sanctions and then look at city under 115. If arsenal or liverpool ever face sanctions, they'll be treated like chelsea. Utd will be treated like city. We're soon starting to realize who are the real FA and media clubs. You're a moron if you think a non manchester club has a say in the FA or PGMOL. This is insane. These lot including the uk gov't were willing to liquidate chelsea over a war the club didn't start. Arsenal or liverpool are next in line.
@alfredthegreat9543 that's a long time ago. There's a reason why so few of them are ever asked to officiate in big tournaments and why they're happy to have them in the UAE.
But Coote isn't the only reason; Oliver, Tierney, etc. have also done their part to help 115 FC... That and the fact that they did cheat the FFP rules. Liverpool have had 8.5 million views on their official site in the last year, City have seen 5 million less... How on earth do they have more global revenue than LFC, Utd, Real, and Barca? They don't, they're fkn cheats and liars.
Liverpool have been dealing with this for years, arsenal have been dealing with it since they became genuine title contenders. It's simple the pgmol are pro man city and we all know why
what would arsenal sue for? They havent had anything go against them more than any other premier league club. If anything ive noticed for a while they actually get a fair bit of favour from the refs.
Chelsea were denied two FA trophies in finals by a foolish red card. Then Sanchez held the ball brought it down and scored on another fa final. Two FA trophies given to Arsenal. Then carling cup final line three years ago btn Chelsea and Liverpool. The match official cancelled two chelsea Lukaku straight goals against Liverpool, Liverpool went on to win in penalties
Someone made a great point in the comments yesterday, the PGMOL is a self-governing body. That is always a recipe for bias, possible corruption and cover-ups. Now that there is evidence of it out there you can't put the toothpaste back into the tube. It's almost impossible for humans to remove their biases, but you can minimise them and it's up to the FA, the PGMOL and an independent body to disclose how they are going to do that. Transparency is needed and that is full transparency, not the pick and choose type fans have been subjected to the last few years.
Mate we had Howard Webb the same when he refereed Man u v LFC some of the decisions against LFC stood out but when our fans brought it up it was brushed under the carpet
PGMOL is like a cartel. They do whatever they want based on whatever motivates them. This is what you get when you have ZERO accountability and ZERO oversight. I think club owners, who in the end, sing all the check should create an independent panel which would scrutinize and investigate everything these people do. Also, the fact that all refs are basically from the same region is suspect to say the least. Another point, refs that do "private" work for clubs (City and Oliver) should NEVER be allowed to ref in any capacity matches involving the clubs that pay them. Conflict of interest to say the least.
At the end of the day, the biases have now been expised. For years, the PGMOL have denied this, and covered for corrupt officials. Its a shame that the sport I love has come to this. As a Liverpool fan, I have mixed feelings. On one hand, I'm glad that we've been proven right, but on the other, I'm angry, at the thought that we (and otjer teams) have been robbed, cheated out of a result. Unfortunately, nothing will be done. Loke you have said, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea will face the full force of the PGMOL, letting the officials screw us over. Webb will do absolutely nothing. Never has done, never will do. He was aa bad as the officials in his day. His decisions sometimes were horrendous.
Chelsea were robbed in two cup finals because of Anthony Taylor…. The second one was a horrendous decision to send off kovicic just because Xhaka screamed and of course it was overturned a few days later because he wasn’t even touched
Not only that, he cost Tuchel the job vs Spurs when there was a blatant violent conduct by Romero when he pulled down Cucurella using his hair, and Spurs scoring an equalizer after that. Countless other decisions as well, and he still gets to referee Chelsea games. Disgusting
Not having independent regulation is wild in an industry that generations so much revenue. The same body and officials in charge of VAR and protecting their mates says it all. We have similar issues in policing with the culture of protecting their own.
Seriously what do you expect when the head is an ex-copper. And we all know how they protect each other from the crap they do. The blue wall. And the black wall of silence with referees. I agree they should NOT GOVERN THEMSELVES. AS A VERY SMART PERSON ONCE SAID A CONSPIRACY THEORY IS A TRUTH IN WAITING. (Roughly 6 months until everyone who wants the truth discovers the TRUTH) PGMOL ALSO JUST AS BAD AS THE MSM. WITH THE LYING BBC THE WORSE.
We have an independent regulatory body in the written press but it’s still corrupt to the core, we have independent regulatory bodies in tv but the BBC and Sky are still corrupt to the core, we have independent bodies in energy, water, telecommunications, retails and politics but they’re all still corrupt to the core. So what exactly makes you think an independent regulator would end corruption in football?
Even with their bias, if these guys where actually competent, there'd have said something like, "I shouldn't matter if you hold grudges towards teams, it should not affect your officiating". They're straight up defending and showing sympathy towards this guy!
when Liverpool came second with one point behind Man City twice both times we lost the points by an official decision each time we lost the league over it, as a fan would you like that to happen to your team and then be told by the rest to shut up about it just like when we demanded justice for the 96 yet we're still waiting just like here most of the mainstream media is more concern about the guy who did wrong there must be a way the voice of the fans is heard, the fact they hid it from Liverpool tells you everything
It happened in 2014 as well. Man City got extra points v Liverpool when a Liverpool goal was incorrectly ruled out, and City won the title due to those extra points.
This scandal explains why PGMOL were quick to issue an apology to Liverpool last year. Whereas all the Arsenal complaints were rubbished with a nasty attitude. They knew there was video evidence in support of liverpool whereas there is no video evidence to support Arsenal claims dispite the evidence on the field.
@redboyjan yes but why were all other clubs supporters rubbishing Arsenal fans when we complained about Referees. If all clubs had one voice then the standard of refereeing would be better. But when one club complains, they are laughed at, the next week it is another club facing ref bias and they are laughed at. Soon the whole league is just a joke
@arientshole114 the conspiracy part is fruitless, but there are plenty unhappy about specific refs. The focus has to be that, all together. It's a lot of decisions that are questionable that smells worse but probably isnt
@patman-bp3qg the evidence is on the pitch. Either the refs are the most incompetent refs ever or it is clear based on their decisions that they are out to hurt arsenal. It is not just Arsenal
It's never been a secret that Chelsea are hated by referees since Mou made it public there was a campaign. The decisions made by Mark Clattenburg, Martin Artikinson, Howard Webb, Mike Dean and the most blatantly obvious one Anthony Taylor in Chelsea games have never been in question to a neutral. Now, with the emergency of David Coote and Michael Oliver biases against Arsenal and Liverpool respectively, the entire PGMOL needs to be investigated and held accountable. Notice how only 2 clubs have won a premier league when everyone agrees refs helped them? Both are manchester clubs. If other clubs and their fans don't step up, this nonsense won't stop. I have a feeling there's an agenda to have a manchester dominance over the prem. Yes, they're rivals but notice how refs would rather let city win than liverpool? In fact, they'd rather let city win than chelsea or arsenal lmao. This isn't a joke. When Utd fell off, city emerged. If city fall off, utd will return to their glory. Look at the treatment of chelsea under sanctions and then look at city under 115. If arsenal or liverpool ever face sanctions, they'll be treated like chelsea. Utd will be treated like city. We're soon starting to realize who are the real FA and media clubs. You're a moron if you think a non manchester club has a say in the FA or PGMOL. This is insane. These lot including the uk gov't were willing to liquidate chelsea over a war the club didn't start. Arsenal or liverpool are next i line.
I mean for your last point, Chelsea was owned and got their financial power through being owned by a Russian oligarch close to Putin. Not that it excuses any decisions against them like the penalty not given in last year’s FA Cup semi final.
Mike Dean is the biggest garbage you can find and yet people was celebrating this horrendous referee. PGMOL must be disbanded and referees need to add transparency in communication.
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We've ALWAYS known something dodgy was going on because some of decisions were truly bizarre 😕
Bias against Arsenal started with Arsene wenger since he was non british and the first to field non british teams. This put a target on Arsenal from the Media, oppositions & supported by biased refereeing.
Just the competition that a new pool of competent refs are entering the pgmol will cause all the existing refs to focus Harder and improve. Without the competition for positions, the refs don't have the appropriate incentives to stay at the top of their games and these biases have a greater chance to manifest and persist in the game.
Thank you a very thoughtful presentation. Totally agree Webb must go. Coote will be off to Dubai soon. "Come home agent Coote". You have completed your mission.
That video being released at the start of an international break, when we have just signed a german manager who hasnt turned up yet is surely on purpose
Could you imagine what would have happened if Jurgen - when he was manager of LFC! - had said publicly or privately! - "That Coote is an English er....country boy!" lol He would probably have been banned from football for 10 years and fined more money than Elon Musk has!!! It's blatantly obvious that there is bias in refereeing, etc! THAT non goal in the Spurs v Liverpool game - while VAR were watching golf...or sleeping off that foreign trip a few days before! - is just unforgivable and should NEVER happen in a million years, BUT IT DID!!!
the biggest issue is when for example Arsenal fans call out refs integrity, they are made fun of.. no one takes it seriously.. when clubs/coaches make a statement, they get sanctioned and criticised by the pundits... this won't get solved until everyone decides to stop being tribal and look at things without bias
When Liverpool fans call it out, these tribal morons immediately say “always playing the victim”……..We tried to call it out, and now it’s proven. Goes to show how pathetically tribal and disgusting people can be
@@coltonconner782you and @blueviper3861 are exactly the reason he made this comment and the problem. It’s not about Arsenal it’s about the PGMOL being pricks
You can and should call it corruption, when PL referees are getting paid handsomely to work in the UAE and Saudi Arabia, and those nations are also backing PL clubs. It does not matter whether individual referees are making conscious decisions to favour their paymasters. It is an actual corrupt situation pure and simple, not just an appearance (though that would be bad enough).
Mike Dean was always the worst referee in the Premier league, and now he's on God knows how much spouting his crap on Sky Sports news, he always defends his pals and just won't say a word against any of the many awful decisions given, what a waste of time, I now always watch super Saturday 10 minutes behind just so I can skip over his moronic comments
I remember when gary Neville dissed arsenal for coming out supporting arteta for his ‘disgrace comments’ and you got him saying what graham poll said. Where’s the energy for these corrupt refs
Labour’s manifesto mentioned governance and accountability in football. If enough people write to their MPs, they will want to be seen to be doing something in Parliament and will raise it in the chamber and through written questions.
Don't even mention Man Utd regarding referee bias. For years, they had the benefit of referee bias , and made no secret of the fact that ferguson intimdated referees. They won leagues on the back of referee bias. And watch neville sheepishly laugh whenever its brought up.
The PGMOL is a closed shop and should be made more open to the public and fans in particular. Perhaps it should become or run by a more independent organisation that is more transparent. The referees should be miced up like they are in rugby so we can all hear what is being said.
The 3rd party stuff will only happen if ALL fans drop their tribalism and protest for change. I've said for the past couple of seasons that the PGMOL and Webb are bent, I've said that there is no transparency in why officials make the decisions they make and that there is no transparency in how Webb recruits. There is not a single official from south of Watford gap, but so many from the north and in particular, Greater Manchester. Change is needed but the likes of City fans will be quite happy with the status quo given they have benefited more than anyone else from these corrupt officials.
Barcelona v Chelsea at Stamford bridge was the most obvious cheating in football history, they didnt want another utd chelsea final as the previous year
The friend being an ex cricketer is also suspicious and he too should be looked at. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s working for a gambling syndicate and only released the videos because Coote refused to do whatever they asked him to. Maybe they have other refs working for them because they also have compromising videos of them they don’t want coming out. It did look like a classic “honey trap” in many ways. Is his friend a City fan?
As football fans we need to come together everytime they make a bad decision to keep the pressure on. David Coote leaked video could be the start for radical change. I like the suggestion for independent third party regulator. Terry, keep up the good work.
I'd be interested to see the % of games Manchester United have lost when Oliver is either the on field Ref or VAR. I prepared to bet it's in the high 90s.
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The Sun has JUST released a photo of David Coote SNORTING coke at the EUROS. !! Watch this space......
Look, leagues like the NFL first: don’t have celebrity, untouchable referees… but second: they have panels with lots of people, including former players and coaches, separated from each other as well, that go through and trade every second of every game. If your score is below a benchmark, you get suspended. Get suspended more than a certain number of times? You don’t referee anymore. It’s not a cozy career. The integrity of the game and the players are your ONLY two precious resources. Even managers are expendable.. With referees like Oliver, the PGMOL has threatened both of those things to protect …. Referees? That seems mad.
Companies face audit, bankers face regulations and compliance, organic cotton farmers face quality standards and inspection, so why are English referees not subject to any form of monitoring or audit? Its nonsensical, and hence, potentially corrupted.
This is why Referee's comms need to be live so we can hear what is being communicated in real time. I keep saying it rugby union does it the best. and the ref asks for for the replay of incidents on the big screen in the stadium.
All this is because there’s a LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY for referees. I agree with what u said before Terry, I THINK THERE IS A CONSPIRACY THAT ENCOURAGES CONTROVERSIAL DECISION MAKING BECAUSE OF MEDIA AND POLITICAL BENEFITS !!!! There are videos online showing the controversial decisions by ANTHONY TAYLOR against Chelsea. Decisions that have cost Chelsea points and titles OVER THE YEARS!!!
It’s true what you say Terry, football fans need to band together and we must force change within the PGMOL, even go as far as to say to get rid of it and have an independent referee system where we hire refs from abroad. Nottingham Forest, Wolves, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man U and Arsenal think how many fans that would be all wanting change, it’s enough that they would have to do something, especially non Sky media outlets getting wind of it.
The mask of impartiality in the English game is finally starting to slip.........What we've been good at compared to other leagues in Europe is hiding our level of corruption......We can't close this door now, got to see it all the way through & what Terry says is spot on. Let's start reviewing all ref performances. It's not like the money isn't there to implement it. You could even have a referee league with the best refs remaining in the prem & the worst ones being relegated. That would help drive standards think...
Nothing’s gonna happen till all fans and every club, except City of course, boycott matches, cancel subscriptions & take a stand. But we all know that’s never gonna happen as do PGMOL, so the shenigans will simply continue. I have lost my interest in football the past few years now as it appears to be a little scripted. Maybe this is how football loses its appeal.
How many terrible/bias decisions by refs cost Liverpool the titles in the years where man city won by 1 or slightly more points. This equates to match fixing. The PGMOL needs to be disbanded and a new independent body as was stated should be put in place. If there are bad calls made during a match should be investigated and if found guilty the ref needs to be fined their match fees and suspended from reffing for 2 further games without pay and all of this should be done publicly to expose these reffs and for them to be held accountable. And as much as I hate to say it technology may just need to take over and and step in to irradicate human error/bias.
I follow many youtubers and enjoy their content. However, there is only 2 that I automatically like before I even watch and TFT is one of those. Always informative and non bias. Keep it up!
Totally agree,Tel, the blatant incompetence PLUS the xenophobic abuse is too far. I hope FSG pursue this from a legal point of view, even though this is difficult as LFC are signed up to the Premier League.
Use of foreign VARs who don't have contact with the other match officials before and after the game would introduce a greater level of independence of VAR. They could be situated in their own country because they only need access to live footage of the games and communication with the referees.
That makes no sences not sending Taylor to the screan so he don’t get a load of abuse he got more for not getting it right so it would of helped him if he did send him to the screen what’s he even taking about
they are all crooks. Even the number of yellows Chelsea are getting this season is very suspicious as this Chelsea is not a dirty team. Every game Chelsea players receive multiple very soft yellow cards. There sems to be a bet going with the refs on that
An extreme lack of professionalism from the PGMOL. They are being run as if this is some kind of sunday league organisation, not the biggest football league on the planet...
Thank you for continuing to put the spotlight on this topic. Please make these points. - PGMOL officials should all be subjected to drug testing. They are athletes and influential figures in our sport. - should PGMOL be defunded and match officials hired in-house by EPL and recruited from a pool of the best refs from around the world
It’s a sad reality that this subject is what I feel most strongly about in the sport today, where my team are challenging for major honours again for the first time since I was in primary school… They’re ruining the game and it’s finally for all to see!
Unfortunately Howard Webb won't resign and the clubs don't seem to have any appetite to go against PGMOL. So, im not sure how we will get the changes that we need, particularly when the likes of SKY seem to be in cohoots with PGMOL
Gary Neville having a go at players and clubs for bringing up poor decisions is laughable considering how his Man Utd sides used to act towards officials
Andy D'Urso awarded a diabolical decision in a close game, and the players reacted badly. We've been paying the price with referees ever since. th-cam.com/video/TlvQ4VjlFLE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=urPgqWiTN8aZOqpB
Michael Oliver is known to be on the payroll of the City owners, this is far worse than David Coote going off on that bullying mouthy prick Jurgen Klopp to be honest
The black market sports betting industry is worth BILLIONS, annually. We are seeing the professional sports industry getting theirs. I can't see it ever changing.
In 2023, VAR decisions against UTD were as many as their injuries. Arsenal spoke out but UTD chose to act gentlemanly and kept quite. They need to grow a pair and start acting like a real club.
utd were -18 on the var subjective table... it was nuts. I was actually saying eth shud of spoken out more... its was insane how much utd were being shafted this season utd again already received 2 formal apologies after only 9 games
This is horrifying from ‘officials’. The thing that worries me just as much is that managers and players can’t criticise referees after a game without getting a fine. WHO takes away the right for freedom of speech?? And everyone is okay with that? WHO can’t admit that they’ve got something wrong??? Even though everyone can see it And who thinks they’ll ever get better without critism? No one. It won’t get better until they can admit they’re shit at officiating. No one improves when they think they’re the best. The egos need to go. And some real healing needs to go on in the pgmol. Don’t ref if you can’t take criticism. Get the dead wood out of there. And the FA ALLOW REFS TO BE CRITISED!!! How else will they improve if they’re protected for every wrong decision!!!!!!!
To resolve this problem is so simple, but the politic make it impossible to be solved. Make Ref conversation live and open for public to hear. Like Formula 1.
The problem is we have now familiarised ourselves with these referees far too much. They are on TV, media podcasts and many are now more famous than players and have become celebrity's. You can see the ego from all of them. They all want to be involved and discussed. Webb is useless called him out before he was even appointed. Whole system needs reviewing
Tel, thx again for the content. When I worked for a stock brokers and were governed by the FSA (now FCA), there were checks to conforn to the rules in place due to the amount of money. We are talking about an organisation who is NOT regulated, making decisions on a billion pound business. Ridiculous.
The premise of the enterprise is fair competition. Once it's established that refereeing biases exist, the whole thing becomes pointless. It's harder to sell pointless stuff. You will never see the sellers (TV rights holders or other media selling the circus) admit to any bias, ever. You have to open up the VAR and ref mikes on air as an optional audio channel
In my opinion, the admissions by Graham Poll and Mark Clattenburg of holding biases and grudges against certain clubs and fanbases, alongside David Coote’s inappropriate remarks towards Klopp, the volume of inconsistent decisions, and clips showing referees revealing they were directed to be untruthful by the PGMOL and to give favorable decisions, all suggest a deeply flawed system that could reasonably be seen as compromising fairness.
'Men' like you is why the place is in bits! Us White folk have been slagging each other for hundreds of years, no problem. Suddenly, you want a man to lose his living for exactly that! ..., stop saying you're not someone this or you're not someone that! You are, you're heading the cancelling of this man for a private conversation!
@@kevinb9830That makes no sense at all. PGMOL loves brainwashed fools like you.
The dobble standard shown by Terry is a new low for this channel. To expect that refs dont have an opinion on teams, managers and players is just naive. This whole thing with Coote has been blown way out of porportions. Not surprising though, since Terry has been driving this agenda for years. And i guess it does not help when all these lemmings are eating it up raw. It only goes to boost up he's ego and make him think that he is some kind of savior of football.
It's never been a secret that Chelsea are hated by referees since Mou made it public there was a campaign. The decisions made by Mark Clattenburg, Martin Artikinson, Howard Webb, Mike Dean and the most blatantly obvious one Anthony Taylor in Chelsea games have never been in question to a neutral. Now, with the emergency of David Coote and Michael Oliver biases against Arsenal and Liverpool respectively, the entire PGMOL needs to be investigated and held accountable. Notice how only 2 clubs have won a premier league when everyone agrees refs helped them? Both are manchester clubs. If other clubs and their fans don't step up, this nonsense won't stop. I have a feeling there's an agenda to have a manchester dominance over the prem. Yes, they're rivals but notice how refs would rather let city win than liverpool? In fact, they'd rather let city win than chelsea or arsenal lmao. This isn't a joke. When Utd fell off, city emerged. If city fall off, utd will return to their glory. Look at the treatment of chelsea under sanctions and then look at city under 115. If arsenal or liverpool ever face sanctions, they'll be treated like chelsea. Utd will be treated like city. We're soon starting to realize who are the real FA and media clubs. You're a moron if you think a non manchester club has a say in the FA or PGMOL. This is insane. These lot including the uk gov't were willing to liquidate chelsea over a war the club didn't start. Arsenal or liverpool are next in line.
It was said 2024 will be the year of revelation, first Hollywood now our beloved EPL, it's a shame really sad
Putting someone controversial as Howard Webb at the head of PGMOL was a clear signal.
Howard Webb is a major issue way back when he was a referee. Webb should never be head of PGMOL. Howard Webb has a beef with Liverpool and once told Luis Suarez to get up when he had been fouled in the box in an FA Cup quarter finals at the Emirates
And he was replacing a more corrupt official.
@@henrykemka2164wonder how many EPL trophy's they have influenced
You mean the inventor of "Fergie Time"?
they had Mike Riley before that :) as if they want to tell us something
Fans have felt for years refs have something against them, such a shame they were right
So much evidence in the video
@@TheFootballTerracegreat video
Disband the PGMOL, restore integrity.
@@CG.G8 don't get rid of it just have it run by none refs present or ex... Have it as the over site of the refs which is what it should be in the first place.
The PGMOL is owned and funded by the Premier League, the Football League, and the Football Association.
Your comment makes no sense!
I personally don't think the PGMOL can be fixed. The rot of Webbs influence and the old boys club mentality runs right through it.
The reputation of english refereeing is at its lowest point. How often do you see a PGMOL man in a top European tie? Not often.
The PGMOL is a cancer at the heart of the English game, and it must be cut out and burned. Anything Webb is involved with is doomed to carry on poisoning the game.
@bigtoe333333
In other words, what you saying is the Prem League, FA and Football League is a cancer.
You realize the PGMOL is a non profit organization.
How about getting competent referees non bias referees to officiate matches for example the biggest rivalry in English Football is Liverpool vs man United.
Why do referees from Manchester get to referee Liverpool matches like Cootes?
@@LFC_RAD , who said the PL was a cancer "in other words"?
Stop inventing strawman arguments that I never made.
By the way, the PGMOL might be non profit, but their salaries are high, e.g. £65k per game. So again, a side tracking non-argument to distract from the key issues.
If this is your method of debating then you can play in the YT comments on your own, I'm not interested.
Quite simply, the PGMOL must be criminally investigated, all their electronic devices and social media accounts seized, immediately, and the lot of them investigated for bribery, corruption and tax avoidance.
I want to see multiple prison sentences for this bunch of crooks.
What for?! For causing you emotional damage,- where this will end up, calling you a c..nt on facebook? Sacked - yes, banned from referring - yes, prison - wtf, are you mad?!
It's never been a secret that Chelsea are hated by referees since Mou made it public there was a campaign. The decisions made by Mark Clattenburg, Martin Artikinson, Howard Webb, Mike Dean and the most blatantly obvious one Anthony Taylor in Chelsea games have never been in question to a neutral. Now, with the emergency of David Coote and Michael Oliver biases against Arsenal and Liverpool respectively, the entire PGMOL needs to be investigated and held accountable. Notice how only 2 clubs have won a premier league when everyone agrees refs helped them? Both are manchester clubs. If other clubs and their fans don't step up, this nonsense won't stop. I have a feeling there's an agenda to have a manchester dominance over the prem. Yes, they're rivals but notice how refs would rather let city win than liverpool? In fact, they'd rather let city win than chelsea or arsenal lmao. This isn't a joke. When Utd fell off, city emerged. If city fall off, utd will return to their glory. Look at the treatment of chelsea under sanctions and then look at city under 115. If arsenal or liverpool ever face sanctions, they'll be treated like chelsea. Utd will be treated like city. We're soon starting to realize who are the real FA and media clubs. You're a moron if you think a non manchester club has a say in the FA or PGMOL. This is insane. These lot including the uk gov't were willing to liquidate chelsea over a war the club didn't start. Arsenal or liverpool are next in line.
@zeltazobs What for? Are you completely brainless? There is huge amounts of money involved here, that those clubs lost because of this. That, to me, is fraud. INVESTIGATE THE PGMOL ASAP!
@@zeltazobsMatch fixing in sport is illegal you bell-end... It's called fraud
Take your tinfoil hat off
Funny enough this happens to everyone except 115 FC and its sickening!
cant remember when spurs got something wrong
@@savvasmichael7663indeed
City’s win rate when Coote refs = 100%
Funny thing bad referring decisions started with the Bruno Fernandes offside call and y'all including Terry said by the letter of the law it wasn't offside and now want to cry foul years later
Vs spurs?grealish through on goal and ref called a freekick for city even though he initially played advantage
I detest gangs, and the PGMOL is nothing but an exclusive gang that always looks to protect its members, no matter what.
A boys club.
The world knows England has the worst officiating, but now we're finally seeing why. The PGMOL must be dismantled!
Facts! I watch European football & the refereeing there is on a different level, we hardly notice the ref. In England the refs want to be the stars of the show.
It's never been a secret that Chelsea are hated by referees since Mou made it public there was a campaign. The decisions made by Mark Clattenburg, Martin Artikinson, Howard Webb, Mike Dean and the most blatantly obvious one Anthony Taylor in Chelsea games have never been in question to a neutral. Now, with the emergency of David Coote and Michael Oliver biases against Arsenal and Liverpool respectively, the entire PGMOL needs to be investigated and held accountable. Notice how only 2 clubs have won a premier league when everyone agrees refs helped them? Both are manchester clubs. If other clubs and their fans don't step up, this nonsense won't stop. I have a feeling there's an agenda to have a manchester dominance over the prem. Yes, they're rivals but notice how refs would rather let city win than liverpool? In fact, they'd rather let city win than chelsea or arsenal lmao. This isn't a joke. When Utd fell off, city emerged. If city fall off, utd will return to their glory. Look at the treatment of chelsea under sanctions and then look at city under 115. If arsenal or liverpool ever face sanctions, they'll be treated like chelsea. Utd will be treated like city. We're soon starting to realize who are the real FA and media clubs. You're a moron if you think a non manchester club has a say in the FA or PGMOL. This is insane. These lot including the uk gov't were willing to liquidate chelsea over a war the club didn't start. Arsenal or liverpool are next in line.
@limofootball how many times are you going to repeat this. Stop copy and pasting.
It's a shame because we used to have the best refs.
@alfredthegreat9543 that's a long time ago. There's a reason why so few of them are ever asked to officiate in big tournaments and why they're happy to have them in the UAE.
Barcelona paid off the referees when Pep Guardiola was in charge and now Man City has paid off the PGMOL whilst Pep Guardiola is in charge!
LB the city fan is already worrying about the 115 charges. The last thing he wants is David Coote being the only reason City "won" 4 prems in a row
But Coote isn't the only reason; Oliver, Tierney, etc. have also done their part to help 115 FC... That and the fact that they did cheat the FFP rules. Liverpool have had 8.5 million views on their official site in the last year, City have seen 5 million less... How on earth do they have more global revenue than LFC, Utd, Real, and Barca? They don't, they're fkn cheats and liars.
Talk some shit ya melt
Its abit daft to say that david coote won them any of those titles. Last season arsenal wouldnt have been in the race without michael olivers help
Liverpool have been dealing with this for years, arsenal have been dealing with it since they became genuine title contenders. It's simple the pgmol are pro man city and we all know why
Big brown envelopes.
Exactly 👍
Cry louder 😂😂
@@CitrusBlue9367wow a Man City fan. So rare too see 🤣
Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea should SUE everyone involved in this. Especially Liverpool, who were denied at least TWO TITLES!!
what would arsenal sue for? They havent had anything go against them more than any other premier league club. If anything ive noticed for a while they actually get a fair bit of favour from the refs.
@@bb5979 then u sorry to say u need to watch the matches again
@@bb5979should buy a book of football look at the pictures 😅😅😅
Chelsea were denied two FA trophies in finals by a foolish red card. Then Sanchez held the ball brought it down and scored on another fa final. Two FA trophies given to Arsenal. Then carling cup final line three years ago btn Chelsea and Liverpool. The match official cancelled two chelsea Lukaku straight goals against Liverpool, Liverpool went on to win in penalties
Someone made a great point in the comments yesterday, the PGMOL is a self-governing body. That is always a recipe for bias, possible corruption and cover-ups. Now that there is evidence of it out there you can't put the toothpaste back into the tube. It's almost impossible for humans to remove their biases, but you can minimise them and it's up to the FA, the PGMOL and an independent body to disclose how they are going to do that. Transparency is needed and that is full transparency, not the pick and choose type fans have been subjected to the last few years.
PGMOL'S owned by the Premier League you buffoon.
They are a QANGO
Mate we had Howard Webb the same when he refereed Man u v LFC some of the decisions against LFC stood out but when our fans brought it up it was brushed under the carpet
PGMOL is like a cartel. They do whatever they want based on whatever motivates them. This is what you get when you have ZERO accountability and ZERO oversight. I think club owners, who in the end, sing all the check should create an independent panel which would scrutinize and investigate everything these people do. Also, the fact that all refs are basically from the same region is suspect to say the least. Another point, refs that do "private" work for clubs (City and Oliver) should NEVER be allowed to ref in any capacity matches involving the clubs that pay them. Conflict of interest to say the least.
At the end of the day, the biases have now been expised. For years, the PGMOL have denied this, and covered for corrupt officials. Its a shame that the sport I love has come to this.
As a Liverpool fan, I have mixed feelings. On one hand, I'm glad that we've been proven right, but on the other, I'm angry, at the thought that we (and otjer teams) have been robbed, cheated out of a result.
Unfortunately, nothing will be done. Loke you have said, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea will face the full force of the PGMOL, letting the officials screw us over. Webb will do absolutely nothing. Never has done, never will do. He was aa bad as the officials in his day. His decisions sometimes were horrendous.
This really is the year of TRUTH!
Yep
Kurt Williams called it
@@mwendwabrian695Kat 😂
@@viewsfromthesix1281man said Kurt 😂😂😂
Very prophetic of Katt Williams
Chelsea were robbed in two cup finals because of Anthony Taylor…. The second one was a horrendous decision to send off kovicic just because Xhaka screamed and of course it was overturned a few days later because he wasn’t even touched
And now arsenal fans hate him because of that game when saliba fouled evanilson when he was through on goal smh 🤦
@@eaganadams3314We lost at least TWO titles because of them. LIVERPOOL SHOULD SUE!!!
Interesting that you blame Anthony Taylor for being conned by Xhaka cheating but don’t blame Xhaka for actually cheating in the first place
@ It was right in front of Taylor no excuses it was a shocking decision and rescinded the next day
Not only that, he cost Tuchel the job vs Spurs when there was a blatant violent conduct by Romero when he pulled down Cucurella using his hair, and Spurs scoring an equalizer after that. Countless other decisions as well, and he still gets to referee Chelsea games. Disgusting
Not having independent regulation is wild in an industry that generations so much revenue.
The same body and officials in charge of VAR and protecting their mates says it all.
We have similar issues in policing with the culture of protecting their own.
I agree
Completely correct
Seriously what do you expect when the head is an ex-copper. And we all know how they protect each other from the crap they do. The blue wall. And the black wall of silence with referees. I agree they should NOT GOVERN THEMSELVES. AS A VERY SMART PERSON ONCE SAID A CONSPIRACY THEORY IS A TRUTH IN WAITING. (Roughly 6 months until everyone who wants the truth discovers the TRUTH) PGMOL ALSO JUST AS BAD AS THE MSM. WITH THE LYING BBC THE WORSE.
We have an independent regulatory body in the written press but it’s still corrupt to the core, we have independent regulatory bodies in tv but the BBC and Sky are still corrupt to the core, we have independent bodies in energy, water, telecommunications, retails and politics but they’re all still corrupt to the core.
So what exactly makes you think an independent regulator would end corruption in football?
@anthonybariek997 ha thats an understatement. BBC are the worse organisation. Lying is their 1st and only choice.
Even with their bias, if these guys where actually competent, there'd have said something like, "I shouldn't matter if you hold grudges towards teams, it should not affect your officiating". They're straight up defending and showing sympathy towards this guy!
when Liverpool came second with one point behind Man City twice both times we lost the points by an official decision each time we lost the league over it, as a fan would you like that to happen to your team and then be told by the rest to shut up about it just like when we demanded justice for the 96 yet we're still waiting just like here most of the mainstream media is more concern about the guy who did wrong there must be a way the voice of the fans is heard, the fact they hid it from Liverpool tells you everything
It happened in 2014 as well. Man City got extra points v Liverpool when a Liverpool goal was incorrectly ruled out, and City won the title due to those extra points.
Ricky Gervais once said, "I don't care, I know he's your friend but I don't care"
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This scandal explains why PGMOL were quick to issue an apology to Liverpool last year. Whereas all the Arsenal complaints were rubbished with a nasty attitude. They knew there was video evidence in support of liverpool whereas there is no video evidence to support Arsenal claims dispite the evidence on the field.
It affects all clubs
@redboyjan yes but why were all other clubs supporters rubbishing Arsenal fans when we complained about Referees. If all clubs had one voice then the standard of refereeing would be better. But when one club complains, they are laughed at, the next week it is another club facing ref bias and they are laughed at. Soon the whole league is just a joke
@arientshole114 the conspiracy part is fruitless, but there are plenty unhappy about specific refs. The focus has to be that, all together. It's a lot of decisions that are questionable that smells worse but probably isnt
There's no evidence therefore nothing is happening with arsenal
@patman-bp3qg the evidence is on the pitch. Either the refs are the most incompetent refs ever or it is clear based on their decisions that they are out to hurt arsenal. It is not just Arsenal
It's never been a secret that Chelsea are hated by referees since Mou made it public there was a campaign. The decisions made by Mark Clattenburg, Martin Artikinson, Howard Webb, Mike Dean and the most blatantly obvious one Anthony Taylor in Chelsea games have never been in question to a neutral. Now, with the emergency of David Coote and Michael Oliver biases against Arsenal and Liverpool respectively, the entire PGMOL needs to be investigated and held accountable. Notice how only 2 clubs have won a premier league when everyone agrees refs helped them? Both are manchester clubs. If other clubs and their fans don't step up, this nonsense won't stop. I have a feeling there's an agenda to have a manchester dominance over the prem. Yes, they're rivals but notice how refs would rather let city win than liverpool? In fact, they'd rather let city win than chelsea or arsenal lmao. This isn't a joke. When Utd fell off, city emerged. If city fall off, utd will return to their glory. Look at the treatment of chelsea under sanctions and then look at city under 115. If arsenal or liverpool ever face sanctions, they'll be treated like chelsea. Utd will be treated like city. We're soon starting to realize who are the real FA and media clubs. You're a moron if you think a non manchester club has a say in the FA or PGMOL. This is insane. These lot including the uk gov't were willing to liquidate chelsea over a war the club didn't start. Arsenal or liverpool are next i line.
I mean for your last point, Chelsea was owned and got their financial power through being owned by a Russian oligarch close to Putin. Not that it excuses any decisions against them like the penalty not given in last year’s FA Cup semi final.
Mike Dean is the biggest garbage you can find and yet people was celebrating this horrendous referee. PGMOL must be disbanded and referees need to add transparency in communication.
We've ALWAYS known something dodgy was going on because some of decisions were truly bizarre 😕
Bias against Arsenal started with Arsene wenger since he was non british and the first to field non british teams. This put a target on Arsenal from the Media, oppositions & supported by biased refereeing.
Correct.Also being a Etonion snob White collar entity
We in need of a mic on live on these referees🤔🤔🤔
@@joelhenry6434 nah we need common sense on these referees
@cecilarthur3579 but what's common about the sense now a days..
@@joelhenry6434 valid point
They all need investigating for corruption, betting and blackmail. If there's one there's others
Get refs from France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Scotland, Wales, etc to ref EPL games....
Just the competition that a new pool of competent refs are entering the pgmol will cause all the existing refs to focus Harder and improve. Without the competition for positions, the refs don't have the appropriate incentives to stay at the top of their games and these biases have a greater chance to manifest and persist in the game.
@brianfuller4258 I'm guessing you're a plastic Arsenal fan right?
You guys blamed refs for defeat to inter Milan so I highly doubt you guys will benefit
Continental European refs make shoddy decisions across Europe all the time. Barcelona were called Uefalona for a long time.
@@RichardJones-p2zI'm guess your spurs whatever 😅😅
Thank you a very thoughtful presentation. Totally agree Webb must go.
Coote will be off to Dubai soon.
"Come home agent Coote". You have completed your mission.
I wonder how Thomas Tuchel is feeling about 75% of the country playing down and excusing Coote's xenophobia?
He's probably thinking, "british c u next tuesdays" but won't say it
That video being released at the start of an international break, when we have just signed a german manager who hasnt turned up yet is surely on purpose
@@jamesrawl3648 quiet week maximum traction
Xenophobia. Lmaooooooo . U lot are so deluded .
@@grealish2234 ok it's discrimination. What do you think it is? He literally has an issue with Klopp being German lol
Could you imagine what would have happened if Jurgen - when he was manager of LFC! - had said publicly or privately! - "That Coote is an English er....country boy!" lol He would probably have been banned from football for 10 years and fined more money than Elon Musk has!!! It's blatantly obvious that there is bias in refereeing, etc! THAT non goal in the Spurs v Liverpool game - while VAR were watching golf...or sleeping off that foreign trip a few days before! - is just unforgivable and should NEVER happen in a million years, BUT IT DID!!!
There's footage of Mike Dean celebrating Spurs goals IN MATCHES HE IS OFFICIATING....
Definitely Mike Dean always had it in for Arsenal when Arsene was in charge.. nasty little man
Two words :- Howard Webb. Bent as a ref, still bent as head of PGMOL.
the biggest issue is when for example Arsenal fans call out refs integrity, they are made fun of.. no one takes it seriously.. when clubs/coaches make a statement, they get sanctioned and criticised by the pundits... this won't get solved until everyone decides to stop being tribal and look at things without bias
When Liverpool fans call it out, these tribal morons immediately say “always playing the victim”……..We tried to call it out, and now it’s proven. Goes to show how pathetically tribal and disgusting people can be
Arsenal are a clown club
Arsenal only have themselves to blame crying every 2 mins
As you can see from the comments on your post, we still have a long way to go before people let go of tribalism. My hopes are very low.
@@coltonconner782you and @blueviper3861 are exactly the reason he made this comment and the problem. It’s not about Arsenal it’s about the PGMOL being pricks
You can and should call it corruption, when PL referees are getting paid handsomely to work in the UAE and Saudi Arabia, and those nations are also backing PL clubs. It does not matter whether individual referees are making conscious decisions to favour their paymasters. It is an actual corrupt situation pure and simple, not just an appearance (though that would be bad enough).
Neville thanking Mike Reilly for his assistance in ending Arsenal's 50 game run over 3 seasons. Whats that about eh?
I will never forget that match bro. The match made me realize there’s corruption in football.
How much did Forest just get fined for daring to question the integrity of PGMOL?
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Mike Dean was always the worst referee in the Premier league, and now he's on God knows how much spouting his crap on Sky Sports news, he always defends his pals and just won't say a word against any of the many awful decisions given, what a waste of time, I now always watch super Saturday 10 minutes behind just so I can skip over his moronic comments
It’s always been my major issue. VAR is fine, the standards of officiating in the U.K. is terrible. Really really bad
I remember when gary Neville dissed arsenal for coming out supporting arteta for his ‘disgrace comments’ and you got him saying what graham poll said. Where’s the energy for these corrupt refs
Labour’s manifesto mentioned governance and accountability in football. If enough people write to their MPs, they will want to be seen to be doing something in Parliament and will raise it in the chamber and through written questions.
Don't even mention Man Utd regarding referee bias. For years, they had the benefit of referee bias , and made no secret of the fact that ferguson intimdated referees. They won leagues on the back of referee bias. And watch neville sheepishly laugh whenever its brought up.
only way this can be fixed is for VAR to be separated from the PGMOL and VAR should review referees performances as well as on field decisions
Arsenal have been victimised against this for years and years why are people suddenly just realising this ?
Interesting over the last 7 years, the only teams that have been affected by poor refereeing are the teams competing with City for the title…
The PGMOL is a closed shop and should be made more open to the public and fans in particular. Perhaps it should become or run by a more independent organisation that is more transparent. The referees should be miced up like they are in rugby so we can all hear what is being said.
The 3rd party stuff will only happen if ALL fans drop their tribalism and protest for change.
I've said for the past couple of seasons that the PGMOL and Webb are bent, I've said that there is no transparency in why officials make the decisions they make and that there is no transparency in how Webb recruits.
There is not a single official from south of Watford gap, but so many from the north and in particular, Greater Manchester.
Change is needed but the likes of City fans will be quite happy with the status quo given they have benefited more than anyone else from these corrupt officials.
Barcelona v Chelsea at Stamford bridge was the most obvious cheating in football history, they didnt want another utd chelsea final as the previous year
The friend being an ex cricketer is also suspicious and he too should be looked at. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s working for a gambling syndicate and only released the videos because Coote refused to do whatever they asked him to. Maybe they have other refs working for them because they also have compromising videos of them they don’t want coming out. It did look like a classic “honey trap” in many ways. Is his friend a City fan?
As football fans we need to come together everytime they make a bad decision to keep the pressure on.
David Coote leaked video could be the start for radical change. I like the suggestion for independent third party regulator.
Terry, keep up the good work.
Thank you for the super thanks and comment bro
I agree. Something is rotten with these so called top refs
lol Michael Oliver’s percentages for city would be insane
I'd be interested to see the % of games Manchester United have lost when Oliver is either the on field Ref or VAR. I prepared to bet it's in the high 90s.
The Sun has JUST released a photo of David Coote SNORTING coke at the EUROS. !!
Watch this space......
Look, leagues like the NFL first: don’t have celebrity, untouchable referees… but second: they have panels with lots of people, including former players and coaches, separated from each other as well, that go through and trade every second of every game. If your score is below a benchmark, you get suspended. Get suspended more than a certain number of times? You don’t referee anymore. It’s not a cozy career. The integrity of the game and the players are your ONLY two precious resources. Even managers are expendable.. With referees like Oliver, the PGMOL has threatened both of those things to protect …. Referees? That seems mad.
Could be a bigger cartel of match fixing here.
A start to rebuild trust is to Mic Up Referees and Post Match Interviews
I don’t understand why since var as turned up the referee’s have gotten soooo much more power it’s really wrong
Companies face audit, bankers face regulations and compliance, organic cotton farmers face quality standards and inspection, so why are English referees not subject to any form of monitoring or audit? Its nonsensical, and hence, potentially corrupted.
It’s funny veltman should have been red carded for kicking Declan rice yet Rice gets carded
Im looking forward to see someone suing PGMOL ..
We need to lobby out MP's that some independant review of this needs to be done & legislation to stop this happening again. All clubs are affected.
This is why Referee's comms need to be live so we can hear what is being communicated in real time. I keep saying it rugby union does it the best. and the ref asks for for the replay of incidents on the big screen in the stadium.
All this is because there’s a LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY for referees. I agree with what u said before Terry, I THINK THERE IS A CONSPIRACY THAT ENCOURAGES CONTROVERSIAL DECISION MAKING BECAUSE OF MEDIA AND POLITICAL BENEFITS !!!! There are videos online showing the controversial decisions by ANTHONY TAYLOR against Chelsea. Decisions that have cost Chelsea points and titles OVER THE YEARS!!!
This goes far deeper than Premier league, I firmly believe this goes right down football pyramid EFL as well.
It’s true what you say Terry, football fans need to band together and we must force change within the PGMOL, even go as far as to say to get rid of it and have an independent referee system where we hire refs from abroad. Nottingham Forest, Wolves, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man U and Arsenal think how many fans that would be all wanting change, it’s enough that they would have to do something, especially non Sky media outlets getting wind of it.
The mask of impartiality in the English game is finally starting to slip.........What we've been good at compared to other leagues in Europe is hiding our level of corruption......We can't close this door now, got to see it all the way through & what Terry says is spot on. Let's start reviewing all ref performances. It's not like the money isn't there to implement it. You could even have a referee league with the best refs remaining in the prem & the worst ones being relegated. That would help drive standards think...
It's funny cuz I've always suspected Michael Oliver of being the bent one in the ref cartel
Nothing’s gonna happen till all fans and every club, except City of course, boycott matches, cancel subscriptions & take a stand. But we all know that’s never gonna happen as do PGMOL, so the shenigans will simply continue. I have lost my interest in football the past few years now as it appears to be a little scripted. Maybe this is how football loses its appeal.
Anthony Taylor is one of those guys who has a great hate for Chelsea Fc and that hair pull is straight out of the books
Mourinho and Chelsea been saying this for years
The question that should be asked is why know after 4+years that this video has surfaces?
Exactly! Why now ? Keep ur eyes on this 115 saga !
How many terrible/bias decisions by refs cost Liverpool the titles in the years where man city won by 1 or slightly more points. This equates to match fixing. The PGMOL needs to be disbanded and a new independent body as was stated should be put in place. If there are bad calls made during a match should be investigated and if found guilty the ref needs to be fined their match fees and suspended from reffing for 2 further games without pay and all of this should be done publicly to expose these reffs and for them to be held accountable. And as much as I hate to say it technology may just need to take over and and step in to irradicate human error/bias.
I follow many youtubers and enjoy their content. However, there is only 2 that I automatically like before I even watch and TFT is one of those. Always informative and non bias. Keep it up!
Totally agree,Tel, the blatant incompetence PLUS the xenophobic abuse is too far. I hope FSG pursue this from a legal point of view, even though this is difficult as LFC are signed up to the Premier League.
Use of foreign VARs who don't have contact with the other match officials before and after the game would introduce a greater level of independence of VAR. They could be situated in their own country because they only need access to live footage of the games and communication with the referees.
That makes no sences not sending Taylor to the screan so he don’t get a load of abuse he got more for not getting it right so it would of helped him if he did send him to the screen what’s he even taking about
they are all crooks. Even the number of yellows Chelsea are getting this season is very suspicious as this Chelsea is not a dirty team. Every game Chelsea players receive multiple very soft yellow cards. There sems to be a bet going with the refs on that
An extreme lack of professionalism from the PGMOL. They are being run as if this is some kind of sunday league organisation, not the biggest football league on the planet...
Thank you for continuing to put the spotlight on this topic.
Please make these points.
- PGMOL officials should all be subjected to drug testing. They are athletes and influential figures in our sport.
- should PGMOL be defunded and match officials hired in-house by EPL and recruited from a pool of the best refs from around the world
Pgmol need an oversight they need to be govern they need to be disciplined
It’s a sad reality that this subject is what I feel most strongly about in the sport today, where my team are challenging for major honours again for the first time since I was in primary school… They’re ruining the game and it’s finally for all to see!
Unfortunately Howard Webb won't resign and the clubs don't seem to have any appetite to go against PGMOL. So, im not sure how we will get the changes that we need, particularly when the likes of SKY seem to be in cohoots with PGMOL
Your mike volume is very low in comparison to the clips mate.
Gary Neville having a go at players and clubs for bringing up poor decisions is laughable considering how his Man Utd sides used to act towards officials
Andy D'Urso awarded a diabolical decision in a close game, and the players reacted badly. We've been paying the price with referees ever since.
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14:25 when the ref sent Rice off the message to the ref was "protect yourself, protect yourself"
Michael Oliver is known to be on the payroll of the City owners, this is far worse than David Coote going off on that bullying mouthy prick Jurgen Klopp to be honest
The black market sports betting industry is worth BILLIONS, annually. We are seeing the professional sports industry getting theirs. I can't see it ever changing.
In 2023, VAR decisions against UTD were as many as their injuries. Arsenal spoke out but UTD chose to act gentlemanly and kept quite. They need to grow a pair and start acting like a real club.
utd were -18 on the var subjective table... it was nuts. I was actually saying eth shud of spoken out more... its was insane how much utd were being shafted
this season utd again already received 2 formal apologies after only 9 games
@@J.R.S.G.S not just a real club. United are a massive club. They should start being vocal irrespective of their position on the league
This is horrifying from ‘officials’.
The thing that worries me just as much is that managers and players can’t criticise referees after a game without getting a fine.
WHO takes away the right for freedom of speech?? And everyone is okay with that?
WHO can’t admit that they’ve got something wrong??? Even though everyone can see it
And who thinks they’ll ever get better without critism? No one. It won’t get better until they can admit they’re shit at officiating. No one improves when they think they’re the best. The egos need to go. And some real healing needs to go on in the pgmol. Don’t ref if you can’t take criticism. Get the dead wood out of there. And the FA ALLOW REFS TO BE CRITISED!!! How else will they improve if they’re protected for every wrong decision!!!!!!!
To resolve this problem is so simple, but the politic make it impossible to be solved. Make Ref conversation live and open for public to hear. Like Formula 1.
The problem is we have now familiarised ourselves with these referees far too much. They are on TV, media podcasts and many are now more famous than players and have become celebrity's. You can see the ego from all of them. They all want to be involved and discussed. Webb is useless called him out before he was even appointed. Whole system needs reviewing
Graham Poll vs. Josip Šimunić - 3 yellows and a red in one game. That's some grudge
Tel, thx again for the content. When I worked for a stock brokers and were governed by the FSA (now FCA), there were checks to conforn to the rules in place due to the amount of money. We are talking about an organisation who is NOT regulated, making decisions on a billion pound business. Ridiculous.
Make all audio communications on and off pitch be fully accessible. That way everyone hears their bullshit in real time.
It's all just a "boy club" refs in the UK have been a joke for as long as I've been a football fan 30+yrs
That quote was for a Chelsea game against spurs for cucurella hair pulling but it's all about arsenal Liverpool and united😂😂😂
Sorry?
That's the clubs he's kissing their *** to overthrow City 😂
The premise of the enterprise is fair competition. Once it's established that refereeing biases exist, the whole thing becomes pointless. It's harder to sell pointless stuff. You will never see the sellers (TV rights holders or other media selling the circus) admit to any bias, ever. You have to open up the VAR and ref mikes on air as an optional audio channel
I watched a clip of Neville! Not a video trying looking for the clip instead
What do you mean
@TheFootballTerrace I saw the ref comment 🤷🏾♂️ from Neville in the shorts video! I couldn't find the actual video! 👍🏾
@@TheFootballTerrace I've searched for the shorts on yt and they have taken it down!!! About the ref question ⁉️