While he does mainly look like him, and that's great, there's a tendency to lighten established dark skinned characters. We've seen it with Halle Berry's Storm who is explictly darkskin and looks much more afrocentric in the comics, black people are allowed to be annoyed at the constant reducing of darker individuals. Darkskin people are already the subject of much criticism for their skintone, and Hollywood seems to follow a path of "acceptable blackness". I urge you to keep in mind the complexites of racial depiction in media, you may be blind to certain connotations, but black people are not.
Same ppl are like "skin colour doesn't matter if the performance is good" whenever a traditional white male or both character is gender/race swapped for "inclusivity". Identity politics has kinda killed entertainment
Nah people just got more boring with this but man "entertainment is dead" "is the end of art" bro boring people make boring media since humans got books and theater. Nothing new
I like the new casting a lot. And casting capable talent is important. I get that this content title is meant to insight and stir, but honestly, I feel it’s meant to paint black people as colorist and bigoted and does so with intent to let actual bigots and colorists off the hook. Especially obvious when there exists plenty of fan discussion content that counters what this video title seeks to imply and yet it is not included when it could just as easily have been done. That, I think is gross.
@@jamesmcclaren9759 dude tf are you talking about? Clearly no one thinks every black person has this dogshit opinion thats as simple as having common sense
He has strong black facial features and afro-textured hair. Also, even though his complexion is light, it has a brown tinge to it and isn't what I consider "high yellow." So, I don't think that he's unfit for the role.
This controversy is beyond stupid. It isn’t colorism. The dude isn’t THAT light skin. Yeah he’s obviously not darker but to say he’s not black enough and that they purposely casted him because they didn’t want a darker actor, y’all are reaching with that. Edit: Also, that comment. “Why would you as a light skin man accept a role for a dark skin man?” Will these people keep that same energy when POC actors take the roles of traditionally white characters?
Omg. He fits the role. Wtf? I don't recall all of this hoopla when a freaking biracial who is 5 foot 1 played Storm who is an AFRICAN and is meant to exude power and regalness. Furthermore, I don't think that people can tell the difference between light and dark-skin anymore. If this dude was Vin diesel light bright playing John Stewart, that would be weird. There's no question that this new guy is black. And I can clearly see him as the Lantern. I don't know what these other people are seeing.
Halle Berry has Storm was a bad choice. Storm is Kenyan and was seen as a goddess in Africa due to her powers and her linage. Halle Berry is a fine actress but the character is meant to be a pure African woman.
It's not, the only embarrasing thing would be it's approach. Black people are allowed to be mad at consistent watering down of dark skins, it plays into colourism. We shouldn't settle for less, especially when we know critique can go a long way.
@@Rev4mpz Aaron Pierre is not less though, he is a win. All shades of black will be within the new DCU. People are arguing about it being colorism, but in the same breath letting Aaron Pierre feel he’s not “black enough”… it’s absolutely insulting to the guy. It wasn’t a bunch of lighter toned black guys auditioning that had DC Studios interest. It was an array of tones, and they overlooked that because Aaron Pierre won them over in test screenings. This just isn’t exactly what people think it is. It’s literally because he fits the action star aesthetic they want. He has the presence, already has the build and martial arts skills to do the work! They start filming in January. It’s definitely not about skin color here, it’s about credentials. They were also interested in Damson Idris, but there was a scheduling conflict; he wouldn’t be able to film him from January to June. Aaron was medium brown in Rebel Ridge… it’s not an issue. Our tones can change up all the time depending on lighting or how much sun we get. He’s not Chris Brown … lol it will be OK.
Malcolm X’s mother is black woman from Grenada and his father is an African American man. Where do you guys get biracial from??? Stop this nonsense man.
Malcolm X was not biracial, he was a light skinned man with red hair, and who cares if he has red hair or hazel eyes, that is something black people can have.
@@PK-ex6nf he definitely didn't have Denzel's complextion, that's the point. Drkskn BM are always crying the minute some lighskn guy gets a role and , guess what? Lighskn BM whether mixed or not, are tired of your tears😢 except me, I just drink them - mmmm
This is why comic book fans are the worst. Nobody had anything to say when he was cast in The Underground Railroad. A far more meaningful role. He is black. Period.Colourism is not a factor in this role. People just want to make an issue for this black man in this role.
We don’t need any more reasons for division. We are one people, or at least we should be and we need to celebrate the success of our brothers and sisters, regardless of the shade of blackness!
Back when they added John Stewart to the Justice League cartoon roster, some fans were mad Hal wasn't on the team and referred to John as "Black Lantern." Yet, no one batted an eye when the Rock was cast as Black Adam. No pleasing some fans.
@@l.apastore4208 yeah , I don't know why people think The Rock is white , 😂 he's half black , half Samoan ! Black Adam is also a coloured man , the casting shouldn't be problematic !
The times change, I guess. There was never an uproar over Cesar Romero as the Joker or Eartha Kitt as Catwoman. In fact, they were really iconic in those roles.
This is really white right vs white left. They keep trying to speak for other groups when it doesn’t call for their input. That’s how you leverage power in a passive aggressive. It’s how they co-opt movements by disguising as allys and enemies. It’s an old strategy we have to continue to study and counter-subvert bc it’s meant to subvert real issues and divide and conquer so they can remain in control.
What are these people even talking about? Every example shown of John in animation isn't even dark skin. For the sake of the argument, even if he was, the argument is stupid and I'm sick of colorism, self-hate, and racism in general.
This dude is perfect I don’t understand why people are being so weird about it people acting like we don’t already have dark skinned black people playing superheroes we have Black Panther, Blade, and Rhodey.
The funny thing is in the comic book when he was first introduced he wasn’t a dark skin man. They started making him dark skin when the cartoon shows started coming out.
Heck, they even try to portray real life lightskn heros as darkskn in the movies. Denzel Washington playing Malcolm X and Chadwick Boseman playing Thurgood Marshell as an example. This whole faux narrative that Hollywood is pushing lightskn BM is a joke
On the other hand, I can't wait for people to get angry and call Lanterns "WOKE" if John mentions anything about his Black skin and his racial pride... y'know something that's been integral to his character for a long time!
When has John’s racial pride been integral to his character? Stop talking bs man. Dude is Green Lantern who fights against intergalactic threats. His skin colour or so called black pride has nothing to do with his character
I like the new casting a lot. And casting capable talent is important. I get that this content title is meant to insight and stir, but honestly, I feel it’s meant to paint black people as colorist and bigoted and does so with intent to let actual bigots and colorists off the hook. Especially obvious when there exists plenty of fan discussion content that counters what this video title seeks to imply and yet it is not included when it could just as easily have been done. That, I think is gross.
@@kingjoeblack5 Good to know you don't really like the guy's acting as much as I do. But I disagree with you. I think he has played characters before that have shown willpower. But if you disagree with me that's okay, I'm not here to convince anyone. It's just who I was hoping for
People are so weird over this, John Stewart is not dark skin, he is brown skinned. Us Black people have different views on what is light skin, brown skin and dark skin. What I’m hearing is that people want a darker skin actor for the role not the best actor for the role. If the studio was just looking for a light skin actor then those other named darker skinned actors would not have even been considered or screen tested.
How many light-skinned superheroes are there compared to Dark skinned superheroes. There are way more dark skinned comic characters right now than light-skinned ones. Lol the selctive outrage is very lazy... Smh 😏
Yeah he’s a responsible Marine with a sense of duty who demands respect if he’s not considered black enough that is something the black community should maybe reflect on
2:29... at the end of the day, it's a character based on Danish culture.. white culture.. if it was based on black african culture and someone made her white, every black person would start crying their asses off. As for Aaron Pierre.. he's gonna be 🔥 Blacks are happy when a white character is played by a black guy but can't handle a slightly light skinned black man playing John Stewart.... get outta here with that 💩
Alright i agree but saying "blacks" is a little crazy. The amount of people complaining is a minority compared to those who like the casting. I'm black, I liked it. This isn't really a big enough issue to casually say a that all black people are doing.
Light skin verses dark skin, guess it's too much ask for some people to get there head out of their asses. Think the argument should be that writing is solid and it's a good story.
Denzel Washington playing Malcolm X and Chadwick Boseman playing Thurgood Marshell. In the the immortal words of Robert A Smith, we don't care 😅😅😅 we don't care....😅😅😅
Also Halle Berry as Beautiful as she is Sucked on that Glass Sausage in Spike lee's Jungle fever and Bounced on William Cartwright pogo stick in monsters ball aside from playing the Iconic Storm , nobody ain't got no smoke for her though !
😤DAM good vid. And as a board member of the light skin coalition myself I did expect that they'd pick a darker brotha for the role but yeah folks need to calm down Im just happy to see my ppls of color onscreen. Salute.
I guarantee U that these people who are complaining don’t even know who John Stewart is 😂 they only know Arron and not the character of John. Which is evident that Arron played him well in the audition . Come on now. I’m black and he’s black. The world sees him as black. Will a police officer stop an arrest for a light skin drug dealer-“ my bad , u light skin not darker as the other”. 😂😂
this same shyt happened when Halle Berry was cast as Storm. Angela Bassett turned down the role b/c she saw how limited the role was in the 1st film. the thing is, Colorism is a deep issue. as much as people profess about representation, Hollywood is in the money making business. they will cast people for roles that would garner mass appeal (acceptable for viewers).
Is colourism against black men a thing or is it black women. Unless a guy as that deep DR Congo black dark skinned male actors don't have that sort of issue. On the other hand, dark skinned women are marginalised all the time. I saw the trailer for that live action Jemm film and "black" actress they chose was so light skinned that the Hispanic girl was actually darker than her, no cap. Except his skin tone he looks a lot like John Stewart. As you said, if we had more roles that are legitimately for black people, this wouldn't even be a conversation.
The casting doesn’t bother me, I’m more so considered about how they are gonna to do his eyes, are they gonna be a cgi glowing green, or are they gonna be contacts, I juss want they eyes to look good😂
“Bullsh*t Black Trauma” Yo, I have struggled to give all media focusing on black suffering a name, and you just handed it to me. For that, I thank you.
Aaron Pierre fits the role drastically better. The other guys are great actors too, but I would never cast them for John Stewart. Their not MANISH enough. We hung up on the hue of the skin. Dam, we're a primitive species on this planet.
Arial controversy makes sense because its based on a Nordic folklore and her appearance is desribed in explicit detail. Same like Snow White. You can't take over a culture beliefs and then change their mythology. Then chop it up to singing. Its like finding a Chinese or African folklore and then revamping them as white. The hate was justified.
Bruh, John Stewart is black and Aaron Pierre is also black, people are complaining about nothing, if he's good enough to play the character, why are they angry?
I think it's because he's already super hero size. Hell as a light skin guy myself, all Arron has to do is spend about a week on the beach & he'll be 3-4 shades darker. Easy fix. I can be outside for 1.5-2 hours cutting grass. When I come in, my arms & belly no longer looked related😂. But hey, I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I'd be more concerned about having actors close to the same size as thise they're portraying, than their color. Hugh Jackman is like 6'3" and Wolverine is supposed to be 5'8". But, he also did a damn good job playing him. Also, what about the guy playing Cyborg on Doom Patrol? He's nowhere near the size of Cyborg from the comics/movies.
I like Pierre for the role. John Stewart in Justice League had green glowing eyes from the lantern power flowing through him so long. Pierre is halfway there 😂 Love the casting of the dude Marvel played as Darwin in X-Men First Class as Mr. Terrific. I'd like to see Winston Duke or Dennis Haysbert as Icon. Since Dennis is older he can mentor and pass the torch to Rocket. Maybe Kelvin Harrison Jr. for Anasi? Loved him on Static Shock. Speaking of Carl Lumby voice acting roles, I honestly can't take Martian Manhunter seriously unless he right out of the island of Mars. Gotta be Jamaican. Right near the beach, boy. There's gotta be a role for John Boyega, as well. Is Michael B Jordan's Static happening yet? I know James Gunn is gonna bring us The Wonder Twins, so we likely getting Black Lightning. I'd like to see Anthony Jeselnik aa Booster Gold because Patrice O'Neal roasted the hell out of him at the Charlie Sheen roast and i can't see anyone fitting the role better. I agree I need to see the suit because if i see ONE Green Lantern motorcycle jacket I'ma flip!
The fact that they wanted Damson Idris as John Stewart just shows that the pool of black actors is shallow and you can't just keep throwing them in every role just because they're black. They have to be able to carry the role. Franklin Saint? Really? Gtfoh.
I knew this was going to come up...and frankly I don't know how I feel about it. Now if Black Panther is re cast as a lightskin brotha .....get my picket sign, comfortable shoes and a torch😅😅😅😅
I don’t care how dark…… or not dark… He is perfect for the role let the man do the job! When I first saw him, I thought he would make a great John Stewart. They will have to do a little with his eyes and get this movie made… But I don’t agree that he should have a mentor… I think that is bull crap, keep HAL Jordan out of this… Most of the world only knows John Stewart!
No matter their ancestry, or if they or not human, I will always prefer a character look like how they were made to look when they debuted in non-live-action (or respect the original live-action people they are physically based on, like Yvonne Craig's Barbara Gordon, John Constantine being based on Sting, Raven (DC) based on Persis Khambatta, Mortal Kombat characters, etc.). And one could argue whether the casting call should include "Must have accurate skin and hair color (if not, we can dye the hair)". Especially as one who has loved John Stewart since watching the 'Justice League' cartoon air, of course I wanted less like Common in JL: Mortal, more like Wayne T. Carr in the Snyder Cut. I even had the same energy for the Nani casting in the live-action Lilo & Stitch. Although, that's a case where dark-skin Pacific Islander women nearly never get any roles in anything, so I much rather a live-action Nani had "only dark skin Polynesian women" in the casting call. I may not like the realistic Disney rehash movie stuff, but if they are gonna do it, go all the way, but they don't, hence Sebastian and Flounder and the Cave of Wonders are ugly. But I can have preferences while still enjoying the potential of a good performance on inaccurate physical appearance. According to Gunn himself, Aaron's audition had the most convincing performance out of all they looked at. Just like with Halle Bailey as Ariel. And, apparently, with the actress who played Musa in Netflix's Winx who did not look like Musa (I did not care for that show, I wanted the Musa I grew up with to be East Asian, but she is the best actor in the show). It is what it is. Plus, Aaron has the proper head/facial structure. For non-live-action portrayals, I don't accept skin tone changes, that's a deliberate choice. Nor raceswapping, it's boring *unless* original non-Euro human characters are also present, and unless the Redhead raceswap keeps the Redhead genes. Nothing wrong with Afro, Latin, Polynesian, Asian Redhead rep. BUT, since we already had light-skin Storm, I am only hoping for accurate-skin Ororo Munroe. Comic book artists already have an issue with flip-flopping on African women's skin tone, same with Karen Beecher/Bumblebee. Anna Diop is on my mind for Storm. Marsai Martin is on my mind for Bumblebee. Edit: Wait, I do have exceptions when it comes to preferring characters looking as they were intended to be. The Umbrella Academy being made in the 2000s with randomly selected women becoming asexually pregnant with superbabies should never have been all or mostly one shared ancestry. They were mostly European, but I'd say the same if they were any type of Asian, African, Indigenous American, etc., they should be diverse. Also, He-Man came out in the 1980s, that and other such cartoons are in a time when being more diverse was way more acceptable than when the Fantastic Four were created. I want at least some to be swapped (I hope Camila keeps the red hair for Teela). X-Men is one where I want all Euro-descent Mutants to stay as is, as I rather the underlying narrative of "Hetero white people knowing what it's like to face heavy discrimination for what they were born as (especially without being Redheads), and technically being safer than non-Euro Mutants if their mutation disappeared". That is a strong aspect that many don't realize.
Folks got to choose their battles Wisely , for Example Ray Fisher played Cyborg who is also light skinned but nobody had no smoke , Mike Colter is a dark brotha who played Luke Cage , but he didn't have that raw Street mentality and Hood venacular , so the character development fell flat , John Stewart is one of my favorite Characters so I ask that the Character be done Justice over all this other foolishness !!
I don't think it's anything to do with the colour of his skin as to why they cast Aaron P his personality is a lot like the character on the cartoon, I think that he's a good fit they chose well they need to stop complaining and wish this black man well.
Claiming "not black enough" is EVIL. If it were a case like Zendaya’s, you could understand where people are coming from she’s in ALL major blockbusters and can profit from roles where she's black often cast in roles where her ethnicity can appear ambiguous, like in Dune and other youth-focused films, which might make you wonder if Hollywood realizes there are other Black actresses. But come on, this is a young actor who’s only starting to get noticed! Aaron Pierre is just beginning to land bigger roles, and people are already criticizing him for 'not being Black enough'? Shame on YALL ! Besides, in comic books, character appearances change from artist to artist. The same goes for Cyborg sometimes he’s drawn with darker skin, other times lighter.
Really great point! And thats the thing. I know colorism appears different for men and women, but also we tend to talk about this a lot where I think the main problem is that Hollywood just doesnt push as many great Black actors. so they will keep feeding us the same 5 people we see in a ton of other projects.
Im not gonna lie that is crazy how red heads be getting recasted 😂 But again the point is always gonna come down to talent, after that I can worry about apperance
I’m going to say the quiet part out load: super heroes are good looking. Those people you showed that didn’t get the role are not as good looking as Aaron. They just happen to be darker skinned but it isn’t colorism, it’s Hollywood. Captain America is good looking. If Jack Black was Captain America the MCU would not exist. Even straight men don’t want basic, or ugly men portraying their favorite hero.
Everything doesn't have to be comic book accurate to a T. Let's be happy we're in this DCU. If necessary Aaron Pierre can start getting in the tanning bed now before shooting the movie lol. I'm ok with the casting
Why are they casting old men… I’m 57 and Kyle chandler is two years older than me… Nathan Fillion and Josh Brolin are both too old to play a young hotshot pilot…. wtf?
Weird complaint since i seen a black guy once played Indian characters and white lady played Indian lady some Hollywood movies in the past 😢. So why complaint for not dark enough? 😡
This do is perfect Casting I don't get what everyone is tripping about His a black Man playing a Black man STFU everyone plz... he looks the part what's the problem
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What about marvel x-men sunspot?can wevtalk about blue marvel racism?
I truly see both sides I think he is good for the role and is a great actor but I agree the skin tone is a bit jarring ngl it’s like making miles morales or storm lightskin which they did lol
The outrage… I can understand it in some cases, but this particular casting ain’t it. The comic films don’t usually stick to lore 100% so when it comes to casting they have veered. Consistently. In the MCU, Sam is a brown man. Wonder Man is about to be a dark brown man, where he was previously a white character. Bishop is dark brown. Nick Storm is dark brown and he was always white in the comics. Roadie went from light to dark brown. Black Panther was dark brown and the next one will also be. Relax. WTF? The first Green Lantern in the brand new DCU is the Black one, and he’ll do a fine job. Ya’ll are right. We just need more Black ppl in good projects period. None of these projects need to be Black trauma films either.
It's not that he's not black enough. It's that comic book movies have a habit of not portraying dark-skinned people and trading them for lighter people. I aint hatin though
What habit? What about Bloodsport, Amanda Waller, Black Manta, Okoye, Nakia, Shuri, Nick Fury, Don Cheadle War Machine, Kang, Falcon, Hawkman, Spawn, Wesley Snipes Blade...is it a pattern or do people just have selective memory?
Blade was originally biracial but darkskin black in the movies, war machine was dark skin, black lightning was dark skin, black Panther was dark skin, a majority of black heroes adapted are portrayed by darkskin people
How many light-skinned superheroes are there, in the movies currently? Don't worry I'll wait. Name me a light-skinned superhero right now if Hollywood has this "pattern" you're talking about 🤔💁🏾♂️
Like it or not but they are right and yo clown ass lightskin friend just talking shit it been like this in Hollywood for a long time they just use lightskin ppl for dark characters watch Stephen get cast as black panther would be even better and that John Stewart show flop 😂 I’m happy he didn’t get it he gone kill it as t’challa and dc gone regret it
My biggest issue with ppl complaining is who are light skinned brothas suppose to play then? Besides Miles morales there’s no light skin/mixed heroes, so who else are they suppose to play? Like cmon, we are finally getting Jon in live action and their even pushing Hal to the side as the mentor role instead of the main lantern but ppl still complaining😒…They’re treating this like Storm who is 100% AFRICAN so she has to be dark skin being cast as Halle Berry and having no accent when this is not that at all.
Calling “Rebel Ridge” Mid??? I have no faith in any of your criticism or opinions. 😂. But you did get me to comment so you doing something right 🤷🏽♂️✌🏾
Where was this energy when idris played Heimball?? Changed him from white to black! What about Electro? Last time I checked Jamie Fox was black and the comic book electro is white! Changed war machine from light skin to dark skin! They need to stop the hate. Dude will be just fine as Green lantern
I think a lot of the people upset about this arent even going to watch the show. Yeah, there is a genuine issue with race in hollywood. but this one just isnt that. And thats the crazy part
He’s not green enough.
He’s built like him, sounds like him, and even looks like him. What are they complaining about?
It’s sad tbh
While he does mainly look like him, and that's great, there's a tendency to lighten established dark skinned characters. We've seen it with Halle Berry's Storm who is explictly darkskin and looks much more afrocentric in the comics, black people are allowed to be annoyed at the constant reducing of darker individuals. Darkskin people are already the subject of much criticism for their skintone, and Hollywood seems to follow a path of "acceptable blackness". I urge you to keep in mind the complexites of racial depiction in media, you may be blind to certain connotations, but black people are not.
No he doesn't
And we are mad because he's not black American
He looks gay tho...
@@KneedsG You can't look gay, grow up and stop trying to push homophobic rhetoric.
Same ppl are like "skin colour doesn't matter if the performance is good" whenever a traditional white male or both character is gender/race swapped for "inclusivity".
Identity politics has kinda killed entertainment
Nah people just got more boring with this but man "entertainment is dead" "is the end of art" bro boring people make boring media since humans got books and theater. Nothing new
lol why do people like you make it so easy not to listen. or take you peons seriously?
@@chaserseven2886did you're goofy ass actually just use mother fkn "peons" unironically? Get back to your 9-5
I like the new casting a lot. And casting capable talent is important. I get that this content title is meant to insight and stir, but honestly, I feel it’s meant to paint black people as colorist and bigoted and does so with intent to let actual bigots and colorists off the hook. Especially obvious when there exists plenty of fan discussion content that counters what this video title seeks to imply and yet it is not included when it could just as easily have been done. That, I think is gross.
@@jamesmcclaren9759 dude tf are you talking about? Clearly no one thinks every black person has this dogshit opinion thats as simple as having common sense
He has strong black facial features and afro-textured hair. Also, even though his complexion is light, it has a brown tinge to it and isn't what I consider "high yellow." So, I don't think that he's unfit for the role.
This controversy is beyond stupid. It isn’t colorism. The dude isn’t THAT light skin. Yeah he’s obviously not darker but to say he’s not black enough and that they purposely casted him because they didn’t want a darker actor, y’all are reaching with that.
Edit: Also, that comment. “Why would you as a light skin man accept a role for a dark skin man?” Will these people keep that same energy when POC actors take the roles of traditionally white characters?
Omg. He fits the role. Wtf? I don't recall all of this hoopla when a freaking biracial who is 5 foot 1 played Storm who is an AFRICAN and is meant to exude power and regalness. Furthermore, I don't think that people can tell the difference between light and dark-skin anymore. If this dude was Vin diesel light bright playing John Stewart, that would be weird. There's no question that this new guy is black. And I can clearly see him as the Lantern. I don't know what these other people are seeing.
Halle Berry has Storm was a bad choice. Storm is Kenyan and was seen as a goddess in Africa due to her powers and her linage. Halle Berry is a fine actress but the character is meant to be a pure African woman.
There was always a hoopla about Storm being lightskinned. The reason you don’t remember is because social media wasn’t a thing in 2000
Also… lightskinned doesn’t and has never meant white passing. This conversation is above you
@@kingjoeblack5tell that to the folks to constantly confuse light skinned with white passing.
@@Leviathan_Art that’s literally what I’m doing.
The complaint is understandable. But our people need to learn how to choose our battles wisely. Because this outrage is completely embarrassing.
Facts
It's not, the only embarrasing thing would be it's approach. Black people are allowed to be mad at consistent watering down of dark skins, it plays into colourism. We shouldn't settle for less, especially when we know critique can go a long way.
@@Rev4mpz Aaron Pierre is not less though, he is a win. All shades of black will be within the new DCU. People are arguing about it being colorism, but in the same breath letting Aaron Pierre feel he’s not “black enough”… it’s absolutely insulting to the guy. It wasn’t a bunch of lighter toned black guys auditioning that had DC Studios interest. It was an array of tones, and they overlooked that because Aaron Pierre won them over in test screenings. This just isn’t exactly what people think it is. It’s literally because he fits the action star aesthetic they want. He has the presence, already has the build and martial arts skills to do the work! They start filming in January. It’s definitely not about skin color here, it’s about credentials. They were also interested in Damson Idris, but there was a scheduling conflict; he wouldn’t be able to film him from January to June. Aaron was medium brown in Rebel Ridge… it’s not an issue. Our tones can change up all the time depending on lighting or how much sun we get. He’s not Chris Brown … lol it will be OK.
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Exactly, this diminishes valid criticism when it arises.
Where was this energy when Denzel Washington played Malcolm X. A biracial red haired hazel eyes man.
Malcolm X’s mother is black woman from Grenada and his father is an African American man. Where do you guys get biracial from??? Stop this nonsense man.
I think both are stupid tbh
Malcolm X was not biracial, he was a light skinned man with red hair, and who cares if he has red hair or hazel eyes, that is something black people can have.
@@PK-ex6nf he definitely didn't have Denzel's complextion, that's the point. Drkskn BM are always crying the minute some lighskn guy gets a role and , guess what? Lighskn BM whether mixed or not, are tired of your tears😢 except me, I just drink them - mmmm
@@PK-ex6nfMalcom x was still light skinned. And a dark skinned man played his role
Shitting on someone for the color of their skin? A little regressive, isn't it?
I mean white people do it all the time
When did that happen?
Stewart is black and Aaron is black what's wrong???
Lmao… The internet man. The Internet.
@@kaylex3 Facts 100%
People are being brain dead and want attention
This is why comic book fans are the worst. Nobody had anything to say when he was cast in The Underground Railroad. A far more meaningful role. He is black. Period.Colourism is not a factor in this role. People just want to make an issue for this black man in this role.
We don’t need any more reasons for division. We are one people, or at least we should be and we need to celebrate the success of our brothers and sisters, regardless of the shade of blackness!
Back when they added John Stewart to the Justice League cartoon roster, some fans were mad Hal wasn't on the team and referred to John as "Black Lantern." Yet, no one batted an eye when the Rock was cast as Black Adam. No pleasing some fans.
Black Adam is supposed to be Middle Eastern. The rock can pass for that tbh
@@l.apastore4208 yeah , I don't know why people think The Rock is white , 😂 he's half black , half Samoan ! Black Adam is also a coloured man , the casting shouldn't be problematic !
The times change, I guess. There was never an uproar over Cesar Romero as the Joker or Eartha Kitt as Catwoman. In fact, they were really iconic in those roles.
If the rock wasn’t the rock then he would’ve been the perfect black Adam lmao
This is really white right vs white left. They keep trying to speak for other groups when it doesn’t call for their input. That’s how you leverage power in a passive aggressive. It’s how they co-opt movements by disguising as allys and enemies. It’s an old strategy we have to continue to study and counter-subvert bc it’s meant to subvert real issues and divide and conquer so they can remain in control.
What are these people even talking about? Every example shown of John in animation isn't even dark skin. For the sake of the argument, even if he was, the argument is stupid and I'm sick of colorism, self-hate, and racism in general.
This dude is perfect I don’t understand why people are being so weird about it people acting like we don’t already have dark skinned black people playing superheroes we have Black Panther, Blade, and Rhodey.
Nick Fury, too, and the guy who played Hawkman in the Black Adam movie
The funny thing is in the comic book when he was first introduced he wasn’t a dark skin man. They started making him dark skin when the cartoon shows started coming out.
The Cyborg point was an elite take
Aaron Pierre's acting chops are really good
Some people really complain about anything
This shows me that this show is going to be absolute fire
He was in the show "Krypton", sort of an underrated show imo.
I think he’s been in many things. He was also in krypton.
Actually, the first thing that came to my mind was, "He doesn't look anything like John Stewart."
Dem eyes give him a green lantern look
Most Black male action heroes are dark skin. 💯
Heck, they even try to portray real life lightskn heros as darkskn in the movies. Denzel Washington playing Malcolm X and Chadwick Boseman playing Thurgood Marshell as an example. This whole faux narrative that Hollywood is pushing lightskn BM is a joke
Even Mr. Terrific in Superman '25 will be played by Edi Gathegi, who has dark skin.
On the other hand, I can't wait for people to get angry and call Lanterns "WOKE" if John mentions anything about his Black skin and his racial pride... y'know something that's been integral to his character for a long time!
When has John’s racial pride been integral to his character?
Stop talking bs man.
Dude is Green Lantern who fights against intergalactic threats.
His skin colour or so called black pride has nothing to do with his character
I called it, I knew this outrage was going to happen
This outrage is lowkey brain dead!
@@kaylex3is it tho? They casted a light skin man to play a dark skinned character 😐 the outrage was bound to happen
0:47 the other bro is not happy with his life😭😭😭
What is it with all of these grown men complaining about everything online? Men complain more than women nowadays.
And here we go again with the crabs in a barrel mentality.
I like the new casting a lot. And casting capable talent is important. I get that this content title is meant to insight and stir, but honestly, I feel it’s meant to paint black people as colorist and bigoted and does so with intent to let actual bigots and colorists off the hook. Especially obvious when there exists plenty of fan discussion content that counters what this video title seeks to imply and yet it is not included when it could just as easily have been done. That, I think is gross.
Seen Aaron twice in theatre. Once was Othello with Andre Holland and he bodied it.
I'll admit, I was really hoping on John Boyega as a personal Fan Casting for how dirty Star Wars did him but I'm fine with this guy
Nothing about John Boyega says John Stewart.
@@kingjoeblack5 Good to know you don't really like the guy's acting as much as I do. But I disagree with you. I think he has played characters before that have shown willpower. But if you disagree with me that's okay, I'm not here to convince anyone. It's just who I was hoping for
People are so weird over this, John Stewart is not dark skin, he is brown skinned. Us Black people have different views on what is light skin, brown skin and dark skin. What I’m hearing is that people want a darker skin actor for the role not the best actor for the role. If the studio was just looking for a light skin actor then those other named darker skinned actors would not have even been considered or screen tested.
How many light-skinned superheroes are there compared to Dark skinned superheroes. There are way more dark skinned comic characters right now than light-skinned ones. Lol the selctive outrage is very lazy... Smh 😏
They don't want light skinned black people to have anything, no movie roles at all, especially light skinned men.
Watch them change his appearance in the comics/animated series to match Pierre's appearance
If the costume is even remotely similar to the image of the two in the ad, I would love it.
Yeah he’s a responsible Marine with a sense of duty who demands respect if he’s not considered black enough that is something the black community should maybe reflect on
2:29... at the end of the day, it's a character based on Danish culture.. white culture.. if it was based on black african culture and someone made her white, every black person would start crying their asses off.
As for Aaron Pierre.. he's gonna be 🔥
Blacks are happy when a white character is played by a black guy but can't handle a slightly light skinned black man playing John Stewart.... get outta here with that 💩
I agreee
Alright i agree but saying "blacks" is a little crazy. The amount of people complaining is a minority compared to those who like the casting. I'm black, I liked it. This isn't really a big enough issue to casually say a that all black people are doing.
@@jboy544Yes but the people complaining are black no?
Therefore “blacks”
0:12 "Usually portrayed as a dark skin man" shows one of the least dark skinned versions we've seen
Light skin verses dark skin, guess it's too much ask for some people to get there head out of their asses. Think the argument should be that writing is solid and it's a good story.
Denzel Washington playing Malcolm X and Chadwick Boseman playing Thurgood Marshell. In the the immortal words of Robert A Smith, we don't care 😅😅😅 we don't care....😅😅😅
Also Halle Berry as Beautiful as she is Sucked on that Glass Sausage in Spike lee's Jungle fever and Bounced on William Cartwright pogo stick in monsters ball aside from playing the Iconic Storm , nobody ain't got no smoke for her though !
@@TerenceThomas-x4c wasn't puff playing some kind of kid on a spectrum in that movie? I guess real life played out for him
The only one with a super hero build out of the final 3 is the guy who got it. Idk why “we” made about this.
He looks just like the character. I'm tired of this shii.
People in my community ignorant and racist as hell.
All I gotta say: if Aaron says he is not black.. we would be up in arms 🥴
It be ya own people.
5:33 bro that's a real concern
The suits
😤DAM good vid. And as a board member of the light skin coalition myself I did expect that they'd pick a darker brotha for the role but yeah folks need to calm down Im just happy to see my ppls of color onscreen. Salute.
I guarantee U that these people who are complaining don’t even know who John Stewart is 😂 they only know Arron and not the character of John. Which is evident that Arron played him well in the audition . Come on now. I’m black and he’s black. The world sees him as black. Will a police officer stop an arrest for a light skin drug dealer-“ my bad , u light skin not darker as the other”. 😂😂
Is that Kuckle’s Pumpkin Hill song playing in the background from Sonic Adventure 2? Childhood memories 🔥😤
LMAO! Yup! you peeped lol. The Sonic Adventure 2 tracks went DUMMY hard!
Are we really still doing the light skin vs dark skin black....we are the most divided people on the earth.
He's not a foundational black American either. But if he does well in the character, then so be it
Tom Holland isn't American
Malcolm x was a light skinned black man. No light skinned man was outraged by Denzel playing the role.
this same shyt happened when Halle Berry was cast as Storm. Angela Bassett turned down the role b/c she saw how limited the role was in the 1st film. the thing is, Colorism is a deep issue. as much as people profess about representation, Hollywood is in the money making business. they will cast people for roles that would garner mass appeal (acceptable for viewers).
Is colourism against black men a thing or is it black women.
Unless a guy as that deep DR Congo black dark skinned male actors don't have that sort of issue.
On the other hand, dark skinned women are marginalised all the time.
I saw the trailer for that live action Jemm film and "black" actress they chose was so light skinned that the Hispanic girl was actually darker than her, no cap.
Except his skin tone he looks a lot like John Stewart. As you said, if we had more roles that are legitimately for black people, this wouldn't even be a conversation.
The casting doesn’t bother me, I’m more so considered about how they are gonna to do his eyes, are they gonna be a cgi glowing green, or are they gonna be contacts, I juss want they eyes to look good😂
Woah woah woah, that's pretty racist of them to say.
“Bullsh*t Black Trauma”
Yo, I have struggled to give all media focusing on black suffering a name, and you just handed it to me. For that, I thank you.
LMAO we gotta call it what it is lol. They're always trying to capitalize on the BS. Give us some more dope shit
Time to pull up the skin chart. That apparently we all supposed know about and follow.
He's perfectly cast....bravo
Nah he is perfect af for this role. Always remember that sex sells and Aaron is sexy af. I'm excited
Gotta constantly pray for the human race; not black enough, too black, God save us! 😢
should be a great movie not a tv show
Aaron Pierre fits the role drastically better. The other guys are great actors too, but I would never cast them for John Stewart. Their not MANISH enough. We hung up on the hue of the skin. Dam, we're a primitive species on this planet.
They should leave Aaron Alone , he already has the job , if you don’t like it, go and sit in the art’s corner and count your fingers
Next, their going to get upset and say, "he's not fba".
Arial controversy makes sense because its based on a Nordic folklore and her appearance is desribed in explicit detail. Same like Snow White. You can't take over a culture beliefs and then change their mythology. Then chop it up to singing. Its like finding a Chinese or African folklore and then revamping them as white. The hate was justified.
No one said this when a dark skin man (denzel Washington) plated malcom x. End of the day hes pretty close and does look like him.
Now dark-skinned can't be casted has John Stewart 😒
Bruh, John Stewart is black and Aaron Pierre is also black, people are complaining about nothing, if he's good enough to play the character, why are they angry?
I think it's because he's already super hero size. Hell as a light skin guy myself, all Arron has to do is spend about a week on the beach & he'll be 3-4 shades darker. Easy fix. I can be outside for 1.5-2 hours cutting grass. When I come in, my arms & belly no longer looked related😂.
But hey, I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I'd be more concerned about having actors close to the same size as thise they're portraying, than their color. Hugh Jackman is like 6'3" and Wolverine is supposed to be 5'8". But, he also did a damn good job playing him.
Also, what about the guy playing Cyborg on Doom Patrol? He's nowhere near the size of Cyborg from the comics/movies.
I like Pierre for the role. John Stewart in Justice League had green glowing eyes from the lantern power flowing through him so long. Pierre is halfway there 😂
Love the casting of the dude Marvel played as Darwin in X-Men First Class as Mr. Terrific.
I'd like to see Winston Duke or Dennis Haysbert as Icon. Since Dennis is older he can mentor and pass the torch to Rocket.
Maybe Kelvin Harrison Jr. for Anasi? Loved him on Static Shock.
Speaking of Carl Lumby voice acting roles, I honestly can't take Martian Manhunter seriously unless he right out of the island of Mars. Gotta be Jamaican. Right near the beach, boy.
There's gotta be a role for John Boyega, as well.
Is Michael B Jordan's Static happening yet? I know James Gunn is gonna bring us The Wonder Twins, so we likely getting Black Lightning.
I'd like to see Anthony Jeselnik aa Booster Gold because Patrice O'Neal roasted the hell out of him at the Charlie Sheen roast and i can't see anyone fitting the role better.
I agree I need to see the suit because if i see ONE Green Lantern motorcycle jacket I'ma flip!
The fact that they wanted Damson Idris as John Stewart just shows that the pool of black actors is shallow and you can't just keep throwing them in every role just because they're black. They have to be able to carry the role. Franklin Saint? Really? Gtfoh.
I’m assuming you’re new here. we already made that exact point in our last green lantern video
I knew this was going to come up...and frankly I don't know how I feel about it. Now if Black Panther is re cast as a lightskin brotha .....get my picket sign, comfortable shoes and a torch😅😅😅😅
I don’t care how dark…… or not dark… He is perfect for the role let the man do the job! When I first saw him, I thought he would make a great John Stewart. They will have to do a little with his eyes and get this movie made… But I don’t agree that he should have a mentor… I think that is bull crap, keep HAL Jordan out of this… Most of the world only knows John Stewart!
No matter their ancestry, or if they or not human, I will always prefer a character look like how they were made to look when they debuted in non-live-action (or respect the original live-action people they are physically based on, like Yvonne Craig's Barbara Gordon, John Constantine being based on Sting, Raven (DC) based on Persis Khambatta, Mortal Kombat characters, etc.). And one could argue whether the casting call should include "Must have accurate skin and hair color (if not, we can dye the hair)". Especially as one who has loved John Stewart since watching the 'Justice League' cartoon air, of course I wanted less like Common in JL: Mortal, more like Wayne T. Carr in the Snyder Cut. I even had the same energy for the Nani casting in the live-action Lilo & Stitch. Although, that's a case where dark-skin Pacific Islander women nearly never get any roles in anything, so I much rather a live-action Nani had "only dark skin Polynesian women" in the casting call. I may not like the realistic Disney rehash movie stuff, but if they are gonna do it, go all the way, but they don't, hence Sebastian and Flounder and the Cave of Wonders are ugly.
But I can have preferences while still enjoying the potential of a good performance on inaccurate physical appearance. According to Gunn himself, Aaron's audition had the most convincing performance out of all they looked at. Just like with Halle Bailey as Ariel. And, apparently, with the actress who played Musa in Netflix's Winx who did not look like Musa (I did not care for that show, I wanted the Musa I grew up with to be East Asian, but she is the best actor in the show). It is what it is. Plus, Aaron has the proper head/facial structure. For non-live-action portrayals, I don't accept skin tone changes, that's a deliberate choice. Nor raceswapping, it's boring *unless* original non-Euro human characters are also present, and unless the Redhead raceswap keeps the Redhead genes. Nothing wrong with Afro, Latin, Polynesian, Asian Redhead rep.
BUT, since we already had light-skin Storm, I am only hoping for accurate-skin Ororo Munroe. Comic book artists already have an issue with flip-flopping on African women's skin tone, same with Karen Beecher/Bumblebee. Anna Diop is on my mind for Storm. Marsai Martin is on my mind for Bumblebee.
Edit: Wait, I do have exceptions when it comes to preferring characters looking as they were intended to be. The Umbrella Academy being made in the 2000s with randomly selected women becoming asexually pregnant with superbabies should never have been all or mostly one shared ancestry. They were mostly European, but I'd say the same if they were any type of Asian, African, Indigenous American, etc., they should be diverse. Also, He-Man came out in the 1980s, that and other such cartoons are in a time when being more diverse was way more acceptable than when the Fantastic Four were created. I want at least some to be swapped (I hope Camila keeps the red hair for Teela). X-Men is one where I want all Euro-descent Mutants to stay as is, as I rather the underlying narrative of "Hetero white people knowing what it's like to face heavy discrimination for what they were born as (especially without being Redheads), and technically being safer than non-Euro Mutants if their mutation disappeared". That is a strong aspect that many don't realize.
Folks got to choose their battles Wisely , for Example Ray Fisher played Cyborg who is also light skinned but nobody had no smoke , Mike Colter is a dark brotha who played Luke Cage , but he didn't have that raw Street mentality and Hood venacular , so the character development fell flat , John Stewart is one of my favorite Characters so I ask that the Character be done Justice over all this other foolishness !!
Studios should have been like "Aight bet, now we casting a white man". Because how dark yall want GL? Nigerian? Haitian?
Say someone his complexion was cast to play Luke Cage.
I think we’d get it.
Yeah, im subscribing. These guys are funny
I don't think it's anything to do with the colour of his skin as to why they cast Aaron P his personality is a lot like the character on the cartoon, I think that he's a good fit they chose well they need to stop complaining and wish this black man well.
Claiming "not black enough" is EVIL. If it were a case like Zendaya’s, you could understand where people are coming from she’s in ALL major blockbusters and can profit from roles where she's black often cast in roles where her ethnicity can appear ambiguous, like in Dune and other youth-focused films, which might make you wonder if Hollywood realizes there are other Black actresses. But come on, this is a young actor who’s only starting to get noticed! Aaron Pierre is just beginning to land bigger roles, and people are already criticizing him for 'not being Black enough'? Shame on YALL ! Besides, in comic books, character appearances change from artist to artist. The same goes for Cyborg sometimes he’s drawn with darker skin, other times lighter.
Really great point! And thats the thing. I know colorism appears different for men and women, but also we tend to talk about this a lot where I think the main problem is that Hollywood just doesnt push as many great Black actors. so they will keep feeding us the same 5 people we see in a ton of other projects.
2:31 Nah Fam Phuck that, they should've stuck with a white redhead. Only makes Sense.
Im not gonna lie that is crazy how red heads be getting recasted 😂
But again the point is always gonna come down to talent, after that I can worry about apperance
ALDIS HODGE should have been Green Lantern !
Watch the movie “Brother” you’ll see his range.
I’m going to say the quiet part out load: super heroes are good looking. Those people you showed that didn’t get the role are not as good looking as Aaron. They just happen to be darker skinned but it isn’t colorism, it’s Hollywood.
Captain America is good looking. If Jack Black was Captain America the MCU would not exist. Even straight men don’t want basic, or ugly men portraying their favorite hero.
My only problem ist that bro looks way to young and John stewart looks like he is in his 40
Make up exists
this is supposed to be john stewarts origin so it makes sense
Considering this universe hal Jordan is old and boutta retired make sense to make John younger and be the next successor to the green lantern
In the comics John is implied to be in his mid to maybe late 30s so the casting is just fine
Everything doesn't have to be comic book accurate to a T. Let's be happy we're in this DCU. If necessary Aaron Pierre can start getting in the tanning bed now before shooting the movie lol. I'm ok with the casting
Why are they casting old men… I’m 57 and Kyle chandler is two years older than me… Nathan Fillion and Josh Brolin are both too old to play a young hotshot pilot…. wtf?
Weird complaint since i seen a
black guy once played Indian characters and white lady played Indian lady some Hollywood movies in the past 😢. So why complaint for not dark enough? 😡
And Denzel Washington playing Malcolm X and Chadwick Boseman playing Thurgood Marshell 😮
This do is perfect Casting I don't get what everyone is tripping about His a black Man playing a Black man STFU everyone plz... he looks the part what's the problem
What about marvel x-men sunspot?can wevtalk about blue marvel racism?
I truly see both sides I think he is good for the role and is a great actor but I agree the skin tone is a bit jarring ngl it’s like making miles morales or storm lightskin which they did lol
People know that's racist right even if ya black lol
The outrage… I can understand it in some cases, but this particular casting ain’t it. The comic films don’t usually stick to lore 100% so when it comes to casting they have veered. Consistently.
In the MCU, Sam is a brown man. Wonder Man is about to be a dark brown man, where he was previously a white character. Bishop is dark brown. Nick Storm is dark brown and he was always white in the comics. Roadie went from light to dark brown. Black Panther was dark brown and the next one will also be. Relax. WTF?
The first Green Lantern in the brand new DCU is the Black one, and he’ll do a fine job.
Ya’ll are right. We just need more Black ppl in good projects period. None of these projects need to be Black trauma films either.
damson idris wouldve been lit though
It's not that he's not black enough. It's that comic book movies have a habit of not portraying dark-skinned people and trading them for lighter people. I aint hatin though
What habit? What about Bloodsport, Amanda Waller, Black Manta, Okoye, Nakia, Shuri, Nick Fury, Don Cheadle War Machine, Kang, Falcon, Hawkman, Spawn, Wesley Snipes Blade...is it a pattern or do people just have selective memory?
@@vaporsaver Or what about Mr. Terrific, a dark skin character being played by a dark skin man in the literal same franchise as this John Stewart.
Blade was originally biracial but darkskin black in the movies, war machine was dark skin, black lightning was dark skin, black Panther was dark skin, a majority of black heroes adapted are portrayed by darkskin people
How many light-skinned superheroes are there, in the movies currently? Don't worry I'll wait. Name me a light-skinned superhero right now if Hollywood has this "pattern" you're talking about 🤔💁🏾♂️
You have amnesia??
How you guys feeling about this Green Lantern Casting?
Like it or not but they are right and yo clown ass lightskin friend just talking shit it been like this in Hollywood for a long time they just use lightskin ppl for dark characters watch Stephen get cast as black panther would be even better and that John Stewart show flop 😂 I’m happy he didn’t get it he gone kill it as t’challa and dc gone regret it
My biggest issue with ppl complaining is who are light skinned brothas suppose to play then? Besides Miles morales there’s no light skin/mixed heroes, so who else are they suppose to play? Like cmon, we are finally getting Jon in live action and their even pushing Hal to the side as the mentor role instead of the main lantern but ppl still complaining😒…They’re treating this like Storm who is 100% AFRICAN so she has to be dark skin being cast as Halle Berry and having no accent when this is not that at all.
@@Pluto24 right a I'm African if was tchalla no
@@Pluto24 lies
I'm fine with that.
i dont care what the do with it. G.L. is one of my all time favs. but not subscribing to yet another channel just for that.
I'm so mf sick of gender and race politics
Calling “Rebel Ridge” Mid??? I have no faith in any of your criticism or opinions. 😂. But you did get me to comment so you doing something right 🤷🏽♂️✌🏾
Where was this energy when idris played Heimball?? Changed him from white to black! What about Electro? Last time I checked Jamie Fox was black and the comic book electro is white! Changed war machine from light skin to dark skin! They need to stop the hate. Dude will be just fine as Green lantern
I think a lot of the people upset about this arent even going to watch the show. Yeah, there is a genuine issue with race in hollywood. but this one just isnt that. And thats the crazy part