I might change to this exhaust... I have long tubes & 2 Carven Rs right now and the thing I hate about them is how much they clap when you step on it, I was looking for a clean, loud and aggressive sound. Very informative video, thanks for going out of your way to make it
I finally got the atak crate muffler installed. Omg it's loud. Truck sounds like a bomb going off when it cold starts lol. Way louder than Corsa Sport. Might take some getting used to.
I just removed the carven r and installed the atak. Sounds awesome. I have the same headers with the catted y except I have a somewhat aggressive cam. The carven sounded way too much like open exhaust and was unbearably loud
evertrules24 Awesome. Good choice. I actually just added the cratemuffler resonator to help remove that cackle you get when cold and under medium acceleration. It helped and didn't quiet it down much if at all.
That’s what I hated about the carven and how unbearably loud it was inside the cab having a side exit exhaust. The atak sounds much better, it’s still loud, but not unbearably loud. Plus with my cam it has a very nice lopey idle
@@mattofearle ok thanks im in the middle of putting headers and a borla atak on and i didn't know where i wanted to leave room incase i would want to put a resanator on but now il leave room in the front thanks
Shaneman20 I'm back! Lol it's been a rough last few months, but it was nice to be able to shoot some videos again. I even got the Volant CAI on in this video.
Matt, Would a Y in Y out work with a true dual setup? Would it alter the aggressive sound? MagnaFlow has Y connectors that would allow me to keep the true dual setup instead of completely going catback Y.
JGL25 Thanks. I like how it's coming along. Slowly but surely. 2015 RCSB Z71 4X4 4/5 drop Paint matched grille and headlight bezels Powder coated bumpers 1-3/4 Kooks headers with green catted y-pipe Various different mufflers depending on the day. Lol Volant CAI L86 Intake Manifold L86 ported TB from Katech Blackbear tune 22" Replicas
How does this compare to the Widowmaker as far as loudness? I have a cammed 5.3 with 2.5" piping, x-pipe and round borla xr-1s but I find them a little quiet at times. I'm trying to decide between the Atak and the Widomaker.
So I want to put the Borla ATAK on my Silverado and want to know if it is better to buy the kit or buy the crate muffler. Isn’t the crate muffler only designed for a specific vehicle
The ATAK catback system is designed for specific vehicles including the muffler itself. The cratemuffler is designed to be a universal muffler for specific engine families like an LS3 so you can have the ATAK sound in any vehicle with a muffler designed for a certain engine family in any vehicle. I feel the cratemuffler and catback muffler sound similar but have only compared videos on TH-cam.
Matt Earle do you feel that there is any need to go with full kit or do you think this muffler serves its purpose. I have an ‘18 Silverado and just want to make sure I don’t regret buying the wrong product! I want to have duel pipes out the sides, how do you think that would work with this muffler /sound
@@frankiebenitez7054 I love this muffler and think it sounds similar to the kit but may be deeper. It is definitely worth a shot just based off price difference because you can just put it in place of the stock muffler, remove the resonator and see how that sounds before you go further. I like my mufflers loud and have headers, but don't know how they different with stock manifolds
Thanks for posting all of these comparisons! You had commented that the super 10 was your least favorite, what is your favorite? I was about to pull the trigger on super 10 but a little hesitant now. Thanks again!
Thanks for the video. Borla's website doesn't do it justice. Any idea how the 40085 compares? Didn't want to spend the extra cash on the ATAK but it really sounds awesome. Is there much drone in the cab? I have a magna flow thats rusting away, it has a little bit of drone but still sounds good... Not as good as the ATAK in your truck. Not going with headers on my 07 so I might go with the 2 1/2 pipe size, 400826
The ATAK resonates in the cab a good but with headers meaning it is just that loud. I wouldn't call it drone per say like compraed with the Super 10. I can say how it would sound with stock manifolds though.
Hey man badass truck man! I’ve been wanting to put mufflers on my truck. It’s an 08 Silverado true dual straightpipe no cats and was debating on this muffler, a black widow neighborhater, and corsa sport. Can you tell me the difference and what you would recommend? I really hate how my truck claps now and want something aggressive
hi matt, i bought the exact same setup as you did but instead i went with a 3” kooks offroad y pipe.. did i made a mistake? and should of went with the green cated one? it’s not installed yet.
That's your call. I saw no benefit from the green cats. Still had codes and could still smell the exhaust at times. I ended buying the off-road y-pipe from Kooks as well as I wanted to tune in some cackles and pops but sold the truck before I installed it. The green cats don't really make it any quieter either.
How come you like Borla over corsa? I’m thinking about getting either borla or corsa and I can’t decide. What is your major deciding factor between the two?
The Borla ATAK is deeper, more throaty and louder at idle and lower RPMs. The Corsa will be quieter down low with less resonance in the cab but just as loud at full throttle.
@@jusincraze9527 it resonates pretty good inside the cab but I like it because of that. I like hearing my exhaust. Part of the reason I like it over Corsa. The Corsa almost sounds like stock at idle and cruise even with headers. The drone is minimal with the Borla and less with the Corsa.
Yes. You will have cat inefficiency codes even when using hi-flow cats and you definitely want to tune after headers. I recommend tuning after headers for safety of the engine let alone how much better it will run and shift.
Fernando Colmenero It's really aggressive. I really like it. It's a cross between the crisp and loud Corsa with the deep tone and rasp of the Carven TR. I'm not a fan of quiet. Lol
Matt Earle yes sir I agree with you ... the headers really wake it up as well so I'm most definitely gonna get the atak some day next week for sure lol hopefully it sounds as good as yours
Dakota Sketo Yeah. I like it best and have kept it on the longest. I used to switch back to Corsa after each muffler I tried and always liked the Corsa best until I put it back on after trying the ATAK and was actually anxious to take it off and put the ATAK back on.
@Matt Earle need some input man. My 2019 has 2 cats no resonators. Mid pipe and tail pipes are all 2.75”. Not sure what your truck if it was 3 cats plus resonators. There are 2 Borla ATAK crate muffler options. 2.5” inlet and outlet part #400945 and 3” inlet and outlet part #400844. One muffler shop recommended 3” pipes from mid to tail pipes w/4” tips. Another said they don’t put anything larger than 2.25” pipes on Silverado 1500’s because of power loss in the lower RPM range. There is no 2.75” inlet or outlets so it’s either I downsize a quarter inch from the stock 2.75” or up size a quarter inch to 3”. They also don’t have the Borla ATAK crate muffler on hand so I would have to order. What do you think? 2.5” or 3” pipes?
Matt Earle you sure? Lol One shop says 3” mid pipe and tail pipes and others say 2.5 mid pipe and 2.25” Tail pipes. Reason I’m asking is I need to order 400844 Borla Atak 3” inlet and outlet. I plan to do all 3” pipes. Just was making sure I don’t have any power loss. I won’t run any headers. Only add a CAI down the road once released. Again my stock pipes front to back are 2.75”. Is it better to go to 3” then go down to 2.5?
@@crimsoncastillo1356 if you are going to keep stock manifolds, y-pipe and cats then go with a single 3" all the way after the y-pipe. There will be no power loss.
@Matt Earle yes everything will remain stock except from the mid pipe back. Going from 2.75” pipes to 3” mid pipe, then from the Borla Atak muffler add a Y pipe that splits into 2 3” tail pipes with either 3.5” or 4” tips. I would rather run dual tail pipes than one. The ATAK muffler is single in/out so a Y pipe will need to be added for dual tail pipes
@@crimsoncastillo1356 I would do a 3" mid pipe from the stock y-pipe to the ATAK then a 3" inlet dual 2.5" outlet with your dual 2.5" tailpipes. No need for dual 3" tailpipes. Won't hurt anything but isn't needed.
Matt Earle when you ran the Borla Atak crate muffler would yours crackle/pop when your coasting and let off on the gas? Mines all stock so doesn’t sound aggressive as yours. I love my Atak but hate the crackle/pop while driving in Drive. If I’m shifting manually with the + or - it’s not noticeable. My wife drives in drive so I can hear the muffler being bogged down while cruising. Any idea how I can fix that w/o adding headers? Lol I also don’t have a CAI installed yet hopefully soon. Thought about switching to a Carven R-Performance muffler but figure check with you first.
Carven R will probably do the same. As long as everything is working properly like clean MAF sensor, no exhaust leaks etc. The only thing you can do is get a tune. The Carven R or any muffler of that type will probably do the same as the ATAK.
Matt Earle thanks, I’ll probably wait for now. Mines a 2019 so no tune available at the moment. Everything is good exhaust wise just the crackle/pop when the rpm’s drop and your not accelerating. Truck already went back to the dealer for engine issues so tune gonna be awhile if anything. Other than that I love the ATAK. Maybe under load I won’t notice it as much and with Mud tires won’t be able to hear it lol
It's loud enough that it resonates in the cab but it's a sound I enjoy hearing and don't call it unwanted drone. It isn't annoying to me at all like some of the other mufflers are.
Do the headers make that much difference in the sound? What is a cratemuffler? If i get a new truck would have to wait on the headers because of warranty.
Easier, cheaper and deeper IMO. True duals requires a custom x-pipe after headers and two mufflers. Everything I have is a simple bolt on anybody can easily do and I didn't have to buy two mufflers each time for all my videos. I also feel a single 3" sounds better and deeper when I've compared it to true duals in the past. Plus I planned to exit it in front of the rear tire which I now have.
I have never tried the neighborhater or race venom but would imagine the neighborhater would be loudest followed by the ATAK then the race venom. I love the ATAK but the Widowmaker wasn't far off do the neighborhater should be louder than both.
@@elguero6753 the x-pipe is usually higher pitched and quieter when compared to a y-pipe into a single tailpipe. I have had both on another truck and the single was deeper and louder but the x-pipe had a more refined higher pitched tone.
How much louder is this compared to the XR1. I dont have headers. But just want to know the sound difference. I bought the XR1 and it isnt loud enough for me. Also, Does it drone bad? My XR1 has no drone
It will be louder in the cab but it is a sound I like and not what I would call drone. It is a good bit louder than both XR-1's I had with headers so it should still be louder without.
On a N/A 5.3L, 1.75" will be plenty but if adding a supercharger I would go 1.875". On a 6.2L I would go 1.875" no matter what. Smaller tubes may be a little bit quieter and not as deep.
Installing this part number muffler (X2) using true duals should result in similar sound on 2018 Silverado, yes. I do not have headers at this point but may install in the future. Great video! Love the sound of your truck. Clean, deep and powerful
@@garretts8672 true dual 3" will be too big. Might be better off with dual 2.5" instead. Either will sound different than a single 3" like mine. If using an X or H- pipe, I find it is less throaty and a little more refined and quieter than a larger single. Without headers, these trucks are much quieter.
Sorry I didn't clarify. I would definitely be doing 2.5" piping g for true duals. I appreciate your inlput. Just so hard to find the right crate muffler for my Silverado as very few have videos with them installed. Love the Atak series specifically made for the truck but they want me to purchase the whole lot rather than sell me the mufflers. Thanks again.
Wusup Man, so I just got the borla oval xr1, definitely louder than the magnaflow 4x9 I had. But still not loud enough lol. How does the oval xr1 compare to the ATAK muffler?
I had the ATAK cratemuffler. It is a universal muffler sold separately. Then I just used a catback kit I bought used and made it all work. You need the y-pipe with the headers unless you are going with true duals.
Hey man! I have a 2003 Silverado 5.3, would it fit you think? I'd check but I'm currently away lol. I'd just get the muffler tbh since that's the sound lmao
Just ordered this muffler should get it in a couple days, this is my third muffler I try with my 05 silverado has kooks long tubes with BTR stage 3 truck cam. The 1st muffler had an oval 12” case borla xr1 u can barely hear the cam super quite had to go! Lol the Second and current muffler is the shorty borla xr1 sportsman 8” round muffler 40004s which literally no one has probably because it comes with 3.5” in and outlet, with this one the cam is way noticeable but I think the atak crate muffler will sound meaner.
Heey man, I love how it sounds, I have a 2016 single cab Silverado 5.3L and was wondering if the 400844 Atak muffler you got was meant for 5.3’s because it says is for sbc high output and I saw another video that have a 400826 Atak muffler but that muffler says stock sbc so does yours affect anything or mess up anything ?
It doesn't mess anything up. The 400844 is a 3" inlet/ outlet muffler and the 400826 is a 2.5". Our stock piping is 2.75" so I wanted to go up to 3" and not smaller than stock.
@@alexvaldez8087 Kooks, ARH and SW seem to be the top three in terms of fitment, quality and materials but you pay the price. Speed engineering is the next step down. I've heard a lot of good and no negative comments but I have never owned a set. I went with the Kooks because I found a set with the catted y-pipe I wanted used on the forum for cheap. If I had to buy new I would probably went Speed Engineering for the money since I plan to go turbo soon anyway. The Kooks are great though and they will be for sale. Lol
have you tried any of the other atak mufflers for the GM motors? are there any sound differences? im trying to change out my flowmaster 44 muffler for a borla atak but borla customer service wont give me any information other then to buy the whole system.
JCDET no. This is the only 3" Borla ATAK cratemuffler that fit my needs. I'd like to try the whole system but I think this one sounds pretty good and don't see spending the money on the system unless I sell all the mufflers I have just to do so. Lol
haha yea i hear you there. thats pretty much where im at. i cant justify the $1300 price tag for the whole kit but they wont offer the muffler seperately and keep telling me that the crate mufflers will not sound the same as the one offered in the kit
I got a ?? Man. I’m keeping my truck motor stock for awhile but I’m delete the 3rd cat which muffler would sound the best. The borla atak, carven r , or the black widow neighborhater
What sound are you going for? Carven R and Neighborhater will sound similar all around and the ATAK will be almost as loud but deeper in the lower RPM range.
Ok Matt first I want to just say that you are the fucking man, you're very knowledgeable about these different mufflers and you respond to people's questions. I have a SRT 300 with Corsa Extremes and plan on a true dual set-up with 2 round ATAK mufflers on my Trailblazer SS. I'm curious of the loudness levels between the Borla XR1s, SLP Loudmouth2s, Borla S-Types, Flowmaster Flow FX, Thrush Rattlers, Pypes M80 Racepros, and Magnaflow Magnapacks in some sort of order. Please Matt!
@LaneWarrior III Ridez. Thanks for the kind words. I can only truly speak on a few of those mufflers. The ATAK would be loudest then SLP, Magnaflow, XR-1 and S-Type being quietest. I had an SLP in for about an hour and I thought it was similar to the Magnaflow I tried but a tad louder.
@@mattofearle now we are talking about the Loudmouth2s perferated muffers not them Loudmouth1 resonator bullets? I always figured that Loudmouth2s were simply a cheaper version of what the S-Types were but had a more raw throatier sound.
@@mattofearle yes sir because the Loudmouth 1s like a piece of straight pipe and could be louder than every exhaust known to man in a bad way most cases. My Lincoln Mark 8 has Thrush Rattlers, Mustang GT vert has Super 44 Series, SRT Chrysler 300 has Corsa Extremes, Trailblazer SS has Original 40 Series, and the 5.0 liter Premier Mountaineer (Explorer Limited) had a true dual setup with 2 SLP Loudmouth2s, but putting that 24inch X-pipe on has turned my SLP Loudmouth2s into some Flowmaster Hushpowers (quiet) lol. It sucks but that truck is moving faster than it ever did so I need more throatier muffers to defeat that X-pipe. That's it lol!
@@lanewarriorillridez3739 I know what you mean. I have a V8 S10 you will see videos I posted of it recently. It was a single 3" XR-1 then I went to 2.5" duals with an x-pipe and it was way too quiet that I ended up with the shortest Magnaflows known to man before I was happy with the sound.
josh plummer Tires are 285/45-22 and everything is Belltech. 2" spindles, 2" struts and camber bushings up front. Belltech flip kit and shocks out back.
Corsa was probably loudest at WOT but ATAK was loudest at all RPM's. I loved them both but liked ATAK because it was loudest at all RPM's. The Carven TR was a close fourth with the BBE being my third favorite but those two were not on the same level of loudness as the Corsa and ATAK.
@@gilbertmunoz331 the Carven R may have been louder but not as deep or aggressive. It was basically a straight pipe so it wasn't as crisp and clean but was a tad louder I'd say.
No. The crate muffler is universal and the one from the kit is designed for each vehicle specifically. I believe the muffler in the kit is single inlet/ dial outlet too.
The volume of the ATAK resonated in the cab but I don't call it drone. It didn't bother me like some of the other ones but I enjoy hearing my exhaust inside and out.
@@mattofearle ah you hear that good rumble lol reason I asked is cause I have a t56 swapped ls3 headers x pipe true duals through 2 magnaflow bullet mufflers and the drone is fucking horrible your truck sounds fucking good lol so I'm gonna buy some ataks and see what they do hopefully they help 😅
@@labisk I noticed less drone than the Magnaflow and even XR1's. It is a lot louder but it's a crisp and higher pitch deep loud that doesn't make sense in writing. Lol it doesn't have the packing like those others so it doesn't have the low vibrating annoying drone tone that rattles that plastic going down the highway.
Richard Morici This is a Kooks green catted y-pipe. With or without aftermarket cats, you will need to tune out cat inefficiency codes because they are not as efficient as the stock ones. I tuned my codes out and still have the O2 sensors functional as well.
@CarGuruGalore tough to answer. If you want loud, deep and aggressive all the time, go ATAK. If you want loud cold starts, quiet warm idle and cruise but loud WOT, go Corsa.
@@mattofearle what corsa muffler would you recommend for a 5.3 truck. I already have a full borla exhaust so I don’t wanna swap it out for a whole new corsa one, so I just want a interchangeable crate muffler
John Robinson If you want as loud as you can get while being crisp and clean with a little tone, go ATAK. If you want less noise, but a deeper tone, go XR-1. The ATAK was louder inside the cab overall but good and the XR-1 being deeper had more drone sound most don't like. I like the ATAK more due to me always wanting louder, but I wish it was just a tad cleaner under medium loads where it can have that "farmtruck cackle" other than that it's almost perfect for me. There is no being quiet with this one. It's as loud or louder than the Corsa, but has a deeper tone down low that the Corsa doesn't have and that's where you can keep the Corsa quieter but not the ATAK. The XR-1's both had a deep clean tone, aggressive sound but not over the top at WOT.
I don't have inspections here but I would say it would not pass and needs tuned as it will throw codes that leave engine light on. I tuned mine out but not sure it would pass certain places.
@@jaredporter7450 really? I hated the Super10. That's why I hate describing mufflers to people as my taste is not for the average person. Lol I'm in Ohio. What don't you like about it?
victor bazan it started life as a 4X4 Z71 then belltech drop struts set to 2", removed rear lift blocks and added 2" drop shackles. Just recently added the belltech 2" drop spindles and rear axle flip kit set at 5".
That just sounds like how a small block chevy should sound loud when you want it but quiet if you need too. Love it.
I might change to this exhaust... I have long tubes & 2 Carven Rs right now and the thing I hate about them is how much they clap when you step on it, I was looking for a clean, loud and aggressive sound. Very informative video, thanks for going out of your way to make it
same here 😂 it starting to annoy me
Joel Sauceda so I just threw on some flowmaster high flow cats and it got rid of the clappy noise. Though it is a bit quieter now
X pipe
Thanks for posting this it is really helpful am getting one of this pretty soon for my 2007 Ford f 150.
Lord have mercy that thing sounds wicked
Sounds awesome! Thanks for the great comparison clips . Well done 👍
Nice to see u got rims since the magnaflow video
This sounds so dope! I love everything about it.
I finally got the atak crate muffler installed. Omg it's loud. Truck sounds like a bomb going off when it cold starts lol. Way louder than Corsa Sport. Might take some getting used to.
I loved it. Lol
@@mattofearle dude the atak makes the corsa sport sound like the library edition. You better put a disclaimer on your videos lol
I know I’m late but I have 2022 Silverado with the Corsa. Y’all sure the ATAK is gonna make a difference if I get it?
@@uaespetsnaz2391 yes cuz the corsa muffler is huge. Usually the shorter the muffler the louder the exhaust sound.
@@grandizer4531 Seems like I’m going with the Borla ATAK muffler+Kooks short tube headers combo
I just removed the carven r and installed the atak. Sounds awesome. I have the same headers with the catted y except I have a somewhat aggressive cam. The carven sounded way too much like open exhaust and was unbearably loud
evertrules24 Awesome. Good choice. I actually just added the cratemuffler resonator to help remove that cackle you get when cold and under medium acceleration. It helped and didn't quiet it down much if at all.
That’s what I hated about the carven and how unbearably loud it was inside the cab having a side exit exhaust. The atak sounds much better, it’s still loud, but not unbearably loud. Plus with my cam it has a very nice lopey idle
@@mattofearle where did you put the resonator in front or after the muffler
@@cherry2036 tried both and ended up in front. Sounded more crisp in front letting the ATAK be the final note.
@@mattofearle ok thanks im in the middle of putting headers and a borla atak on and i didn't know where i wanted to leave room incase i would want to put a resanator on but now il leave room in the front thanks
This is a clean fucking setup. Exactly what I've been thinking of doing to the T. Thanks for posting this, now I know it can be done!!!
That setup sounds good 👌
He's back!
Shaneman20 I'm back! Lol it's been a rough last few months, but it was nice to be able to shoot some videos again. I even got the Volant CAI on in this video.
Sounds like pure art.
Matt,
Would a Y in Y out work with a true dual setup? Would it alter the aggressive sound? MagnaFlow has Y connectors that would allow me to keep the true dual setup instead of completely going catback Y.
Out of curiosity, what’s all done to the truck besides all of the exhaust work. Love the look of her with black wheels.
JGL25 Thanks. I like how it's coming along. Slowly but surely.
2015 RCSB Z71 4X4
4/5 drop
Paint matched grille and headlight bezels
Powder coated bumpers
1-3/4 Kooks headers with green catted y-pipe
Various different mufflers depending on the day. Lol
Volant CAI
L86 Intake Manifold
L86 ported TB from Katech
Blackbear tune
22" Replicas
How does this compare to the Widowmaker as far as loudness? I have a cammed 5.3 with 2.5" piping, x-pipe and round borla xr-1s but I find them a little quiet at times. I'm trying to decide between the Atak and the Widomaker.
Edward Carrillo I found the ATAK louder at all times than the Widowmaker.
Dose anyone els notice that lil wine sounds with the kooks headers 😍👀
A K&N cold air intake makes it sound like supercharger too 🤣 dudes look at me funny when the throttle body opens and it hisses
Can’t wait to do my 2019 like this
Crimson Castillo love to see / hear how it turns out !?
So I want to put the Borla ATAK on my Silverado and want to know if it is better to buy the kit or buy the crate muffler. Isn’t the crate muffler only designed for a specific vehicle
The ATAK catback system is designed for specific vehicles including the muffler itself. The cratemuffler is designed to be a universal muffler for specific engine families like an LS3 so you can have the ATAK sound in any vehicle with a muffler designed for a certain engine family in any vehicle. I feel the cratemuffler and catback muffler sound similar but have only compared videos on TH-cam.
Matt Earle do you feel that there is any need to go with full kit or do you think this muffler serves its purpose. I have an ‘18 Silverado and just want to make sure I don’t regret buying the wrong product! I want to have duel pipes out the sides, how do you think that would work with this muffler /sound
@@frankiebenitez7054 I love this muffler and think it sounds similar to the kit but may be deeper. It is definitely worth a shot just based off price difference because you can just put it in place of the stock muffler, remove the resonator and see how that sounds before you go further. I like my mufflers loud and have headers, but don't know how they different with stock manifolds
Do you know the part nunber? There is several different Borla ATAK part numbers and want to make sure I get the right one.
400844
I wonder if the atak sounds better than the xr1 or proxs. Also how bad is the drone if you have long tubes and no cats?
That is all in each person's definition of "better".
Thanks for posting all of these comparisons! You had commented that the super 10 was your least favorite, what is your favorite? I was about to pull the trigger on super 10 but a little hesitant now. Thanks again!
Jeff Reminga The Borla ATAK is my favorite then Corsa followed by BBE then Carven TR and Gibson M.W.A.
Matt Earle Thank you! I’m ordering the Borla!
Jeff Reminga Awesome. Let me know what you think.
Jeff Reminga kj
Thanks for the video. Borla's website doesn't do it justice.
Any idea how the 40085 compares?
Didn't want to spend the extra cash on the ATAK but it really sounds awesome.
Is there much drone in the cab? I have a magna flow thats rusting away, it has a little bit of drone but still sounds good... Not as good as the ATAK in your truck.
Not going with headers on my 07 so I might go with the 2 1/2 pipe size, 400826
The ATAK resonates in the cab a good but with headers meaning it is just that loud. I wouldn't call it drone per say like compraed with the Super 10. I can say how it would sound with stock manifolds though.
Hey man badass truck man! I’ve been wanting to put mufflers on my truck. It’s an 08 Silverado true dual straightpipe no cats and was debating on this muffler, a black widow neighborhater, and corsa sport. Can you tell me the difference and what you would recommend? I really hate how my truck claps now and want something aggressive
Sounds great...I have super tens but may purchase the Ataks soon.....sound much better than the flows
Hemi Fire yes it does. I love it.
hi matt, i bought the exact same setup as you did but instead i went with a 3” kooks offroad y pipe.. did i made a mistake? and should of went with the green cated one? it’s not installed yet.
That's your call. I saw no benefit from the green cats. Still had codes and could still smell the exhaust at times. I ended buying the off-road y-pipe from Kooks as well as I wanted to tune in some cackles and pops but sold the truck before I installed it. The green cats don't really make it any quieter either.
Wonder what it will sound like if I do this but with kooks shorty headers
Probably a little less raspy.
Or even what would you recommend as the most agreesive and best sounding muffler. Any brand.
I'd go with the ATAK for loud and aggressive
Thanks man!
How come you like Borla over corsa? I’m thinking about getting either borla or corsa and I can’t decide. What is your major deciding factor between the two?
The Borla ATAK is deeper, more throaty and louder at idle and lower RPMs. The Corsa will be quieter down low with less resonance in the cab but just as loud at full throttle.
Matt Earle how bad is the borla on resonance and drone in the cab?
@@jusincraze9527 it resonates pretty good inside the cab but I like it because of that. I like hearing my exhaust. Part of the reason I like it over Corsa. The Corsa almost sounds like stock at idle and cruise even with headers. The drone is minimal with the Borla and less with the Corsa.
Matt Earle thanks man I’m about to
Buy the borla now. Actually I got to buy 2 of them becuase of my true dual pipes😂
Did you have any check engine lights come on? And did you tune it so it would run better with the headers, looking to do the same.
Yes. You will have cat inefficiency codes even when using hi-flow cats and you definitely want to tune after headers. I recommend tuning after headers for safety of the engine let alone how much better it will run and shift.
Man that atak sounds aggressive... I have the borla pro xs with tsp long tubes and it sounds too quiet for me lol... great video bro
Fernando Colmenero It's really aggressive. I really like it. It's a cross between the crisp and loud Corsa with the deep tone and rasp of the Carven TR. I'm not a fan of quiet. Lol
Matt Earle yes sir I agree with you ... the headers really wake it up as well so I'm most definitely gonna get the atak some day next week for sure lol hopefully it sounds as good as yours
whats your favorite setup youve ran soo far?? soo far i think these or the widomakers are my favorite.. hard to choose
Dakota Sketo ATAK then Corsa, Carven and BBE.
Matt Earle so atak is your favorite soo far?? i like them alot too.. just soo many to choose from
Dakota Sketo Yeah. I like it best and have kept it on the longest. I used to switch back to Corsa after each muffler I tried and always liked the Corsa best until I put it back on after trying the ATAK and was actually anxious to take it off and put the ATAK back on.
@Matt Earle need some input man. My 2019 has 2 cats no resonators. Mid pipe and tail pipes are all 2.75”. Not sure what your truck if it was 3 cats plus resonators. There are 2 Borla ATAK crate muffler options. 2.5” inlet and outlet part #400945 and 3” inlet and outlet part #400844. One muffler shop recommended 3” pipes from mid to tail pipes w/4” tips. Another said they don’t put anything larger than 2.25” pipes on Silverado 1500’s because of power loss in the lower RPM range. There is no 2.75” inlet or outlets so it’s either I downsize a quarter inch from the stock 2.75” or up size a quarter inch to 3”. They also don’t have the Borla ATAK crate muffler on hand so I would have to order. What do you think? 2.5” or 3” pipes?
3" without question. There will be no power loss whatsoever.
Matt Earle you sure? Lol One shop says 3” mid pipe and tail pipes and others say 2.5 mid pipe and 2.25” Tail pipes. Reason I’m asking is I need to order 400844 Borla Atak 3” inlet and outlet. I plan to do all 3” pipes. Just was making sure I don’t have any power loss. I won’t run any headers. Only add a CAI down the road once released. Again my stock pipes front to back are 2.75”. Is it better to go to 3” then go down to 2.5?
@@crimsoncastillo1356 if you are going to keep stock manifolds, y-pipe and cats then go with a single 3" all the way after the y-pipe. There will be no power loss.
@Matt Earle yes everything will remain stock except from the mid pipe back. Going from 2.75” pipes to 3” mid pipe, then from the Borla Atak muffler add a Y pipe that splits into 2 3” tail pipes with either 3.5” or 4” tips. I would rather run dual tail pipes than one. The ATAK muffler is single in/out so a Y pipe will need to be added for dual tail pipes
@@crimsoncastillo1356 I would do a 3" mid pipe from the stock y-pipe to the ATAK then a 3" inlet dual 2.5" outlet with your dual 2.5" tailpipes. No need for dual 3" tailpipes. Won't hurt anything but isn't needed.
Matt Earle when you ran the Borla Atak crate muffler would yours crackle/pop when your coasting and let off on the gas? Mines all stock so doesn’t sound aggressive as yours. I love my Atak but hate the crackle/pop while driving in Drive. If I’m shifting manually with the + or - it’s not noticeable. My wife drives in drive so I can hear the muffler being bogged down while cruising. Any idea how I can fix that w/o adding headers? Lol I also don’t have a CAI installed yet hopefully soon. Thought about switching to a Carven R-Performance muffler but figure check with you first.
Carven R will probably do the same. As long as everything is working properly like clean MAF sensor, no exhaust leaks etc. The only thing you can do is get a tune. The Carven R or any muffler of that type will probably do the same as the ATAK.
Matt Earle thanks, I’ll probably wait for now. Mines a 2019 so no tune available at the moment. Everything is good exhaust wise just the crackle/pop when the rpm’s drop and your not accelerating. Truck already went back to the dealer for engine issues so tune gonna be awhile if anything. Other than that I love the ATAK. Maybe under load I won’t notice it as much and with Mud tires won’t be able to hear it lol
Is there any drone..
It's loud enough that it resonates in the cab but it's a sound I enjoy hearing and don't call it unwanted drone. It isn't annoying to me at all like some of the other mufflers are.
Sounds great!! Missing CAMS ;)
O alruwai I'm hoping to do a cam swap in the next few months.
This sounds menacing. I always thought that having no cats made the longtubes so loud? Is it? Yours has cats and still loud.
2Low4u High flow cats don't tame it very much at all especially compared to the three stock cats.
Matt Earle which high flow cats did you have here? Magnaflow?
Alright man I’m back haha. Did you like the ATAK or Carven more? I’m about to pull the magnaflow off and put something else on.
ATAK by far
Do the headers make that much difference in the sound? What is a cratemuffler? If i get a new truck would have to wait on the headers because of warranty.
Headers could void warranty if they can prove the headers cause the issue. They gave me the most bang but with a tune which I highly recommend.
It sounds badass but why go with a single exhaust instead of a dual exhaust.
Easier, cheaper and deeper IMO. True duals requires a custom x-pipe after headers and two mufflers. Everything I have is a simple bolt on anybody can easily do and I didn't have to buy two mufflers each time for all my videos. I also feel a single 3" sounds better and deeper when I've compared it to true duals in the past. Plus I planned to exit it in front of the rear tire which I now have.
@@mattofearle Sounds awesome.
Sounds sick bro, what do you recommend for my 2004 Silverado RST V8 5 speed, I want it real loud & crispy. I already have shorty headers.
The ATAK or Corsa are both loud and crisp.
Matt Earle I’m going with the borla attack just saw it on amazon for $240. Thnx for your help & vids keep them coming 💪
@@MONDIZY01 Glad they helped. I've got a few more videos soon.
In stereo!!!????? Nice 👍🏾
Those upshifting sounds are nasty!!! GM all the way
What’s your exhaust set up header back? Do you have factory of aftermarket cats and resonators, or did you delete them all? Did you go with 3” piping?
Each video has details in the description. Kooks cats, no resonators and 3" piping.
i cant wait for my Y PIPE xD
Are you running one or 2 of them the site says you need to run 2
Just one.
Sounds like I'm watching Days of Thunder again !
Would you recommend this Borla exhaust over the Race Venom muffler and the neighborhater muffler? Looking for loudness and aggressiveness.
I have never tried the neighborhater or race venom but would imagine the neighborhater would be loudest followed by the ATAK then the race venom. I love the ATAK but the Widowmaker wasn't far off do the neighborhater should be louder than both.
Matt Earle I’ve read X-type is more aggressive sounding but I see you got a Y-pipe, any Inputs on that?
@@elguero6753 the x-pipe is usually higher pitched and quieter when compared to a y-pipe into a single tailpipe. I have had both on another truck and the single was deeper and louder but the x-pipe had a more refined higher pitched tone.
How much louder is this compared to the XR1. I dont have headers. But just want to know the sound difference. I bought the XR1 and it isnt loud enough for me. Also, Does it drone bad? My XR1 has no drone
It will be louder in the cab but it is a sound I like and not what I would call drone. It is a good bit louder than both XR-1's I had with headers so it should still be louder without.
@@mattofearle I wouldnt mind hearing it in the cab, just dont want the drone/awful vibration that gives you a headache after 5 minutes.
i know that the 1 3/4 is a smaller diameter than the 1 7/8, do you think there is much difference in sound/performance between the two?
On a N/A 5.3L, 1.75" will be plenty but if adding a supercharger I would go 1.875". On a 6.2L I would go 1.875" no matter what. Smaller tubes may be a little bit quieter and not as deep.
Matt Earle thanks man, your truck sounds excellent
Do you know the part number for the crate mufflers? I'm looking to do a true duals exhaust with an x pipe and two Atak mufflers on my 2018 Silverado
It says at the beginning of the video and in the description I believe. 400844
Installing this part number muffler (X2) using true duals should result in similar sound on 2018 Silverado, yes. I do not have headers at this point but may install in the future. Great video! Love the sound of your truck. Clean, deep and powerful
Your input would be greatly appreciated as I'm not that mechanically savvy.
@@garretts8672 true dual 3" will be too big. Might be better off with dual 2.5" instead. Either will sound different than a single 3" like mine. If using an X or H- pipe, I find it is less throaty and a little more refined and quieter than a larger single. Without headers, these trucks are much quieter.
Sorry I didn't clarify. I would definitely be doing 2.5" piping g for true duals. I appreciate your inlput. Just so hard to find the right crate muffler for my Silverado as very few have videos with them installed. Love the Atak series specifically made for the truck but they want me to purchase the whole lot rather than sell me the mufflers. Thanks again.
Does it still have the 3 cats
Not in this video. Just the two aftermarket Kooks green cats.
Wusup Man, so I just got the borla oval xr1, definitely louder than the magnaflow 4x9 I had. But still not loud enough lol. How does the oval xr1 compare to the ATAK muffler?
No comparison. ATAK is louder and more aggressive at every RPM vs. the XR-1
What do you have to join the kooks Y pipe to the atak and I'm also wanting to do side exit before the axle..
I had the ATAK cratemuffler. It is a universal muffler sold separately. Then I just used a catback kit I bought used and made it all work. You need the y-pipe with the headers unless you are going with true duals.
Hey man! I have a 2003 Silverado 5.3, would it fit you think? I'd check but I'm currently away lol. I'd just get the muffler tbh since that's the sound lmao
It's a universal muffler but you'll need 3" piping or adapt to it somehow.
Nice man , will this fit a stock piping location on a 2018 sierra do you think,?
5.3L?
@@mattofearle yes
@@RyanLorenzo454 stock piping will be 2.75" but an exhaust shop can flare a pipe to fit this muffler no problem.
Just ordered this muffler should get it in a couple days, this is my third muffler I try with my 05 silverado has kooks long tubes with BTR stage 3 truck cam. The 1st muffler had an oval 12” case borla xr1 u can barely hear the cam super quite had to go! Lol the Second and current muffler is the shorty borla xr1 sportsman 8” round muffler 40004s which literally no one has probably because it comes with 3.5” in and outlet, with this one the cam is way noticeable but I think the atak crate muffler will sound meaner.
Jose Sainez Good choice. I love this muffler. Let me know how you like it.
Sure will!
I had the same problem I’m cam with borla xr1 with headers and was quite and did the magnaflow bullet can hear the cam lope more now.
Heey man, I love how it sounds, I have a 2016 single cab Silverado 5.3L and was wondering if the 400844 Atak muffler you got was meant for 5.3’s because it says is for sbc high output and I saw another video that have a 400826 Atak muffler but that muffler says stock sbc so does yours affect anything or mess up anything ?
It doesn't mess anything up. The 400844 is a 3" inlet/ outlet muffler and the 400826 is a 2.5". Our stock piping is 2.75" so I wanted to go up to 3" and not smaller than stock.
Matt Earle okay thank you !
Heey man one more question, what made you go with kooks header ? Because I’m deciding wether to go with tsp, pacesetters, speed engineering or kooks
@@alexvaldez8087 Kooks, ARH and SW seem to be the top three in terms of fitment, quality and materials but you pay the price. Speed engineering is the next step down. I've heard a lot of good and no negative comments but I have never owned a set. I went with the Kooks because I found a set with the catted y-pipe I wanted used on the forum for cheap. If I had to buy new I would probably went Speed Engineering for the money since I plan to go turbo soon anyway. The Kooks are great though and they will be for sale. Lol
Matt Earle so you wouldn’t recommend Texas speed performance headers ?
have you tried any of the other atak mufflers for the GM motors? are there any sound differences? im trying to change out my flowmaster 44 muffler for a borla atak but borla customer service wont give me any information other then to buy the whole system.
JCDET no. This is the only 3" Borla ATAK cratemuffler that fit my needs. I'd like to try the whole system but I think this one sounds pretty good and don't see spending the money on the system unless I sell all the mufflers I have just to do so. Lol
haha yea i hear you there. thats pretty much where im at. i cant justify the $1300 price tag for the whole kit but they wont offer the muffler seperately and keep telling me that the crate mufflers will not sound the same as the one offered in the kit
I got a ?? Man. I’m keeping my truck motor stock for awhile but I’m delete the 3rd cat which muffler would sound the best. The borla atak, carven r , or the black widow neighborhater
What sound are you going for? Carven R and Neighborhater will sound similar all around and the ATAK will be almost as loud but deeper in the lower RPM range.
I like that crackle sound yours make when shifting gears. I want a nice deep aggressive sound.
@@dackerystone2014 ATAK is my choice then.
Alright thanks for the help.
More interested in that LNF beside the truck
There are videos of it on here too if you look at my channel. F40 swap, EFR7163 turbo. It's a fun car
The kooks isn’t legal in California right ?
Is it difficult to install ?
I don't believe anything aftermarket is legal in California. Lol It's not bad to install if you're somewhat mechanically inclined already.
Have you ran the Carven R yet? I’m on the fence about which one I should run
Mario Acosta I ran the Carven R before I got headers. Seriously nearly identical to a straight pipe I ran before it.
Single exit bro?
Sure is bro
Ok Matt first I want to just say that you are the fucking man, you're very knowledgeable about these different mufflers and you respond to people's questions. I have a SRT 300 with Corsa Extremes and plan on a true dual set-up with 2 round ATAK mufflers on my Trailblazer SS. I'm curious of the loudness levels between the Borla XR1s, SLP Loudmouth2s, Borla S-Types, Flowmaster Flow FX, Thrush Rattlers, Pypes M80 Racepros, and Magnaflow Magnapacks in some sort of order. Please Matt!
@LaneWarrior III Ridez. Thanks for the kind words. I can only truly speak on a few of those mufflers. The ATAK would be loudest then SLP, Magnaflow, XR-1 and S-Type being quietest. I had an SLP in for about an hour and I thought it was similar to the Magnaflow I tried but a tad louder.
@@mattofearle now we are talking about the Loudmouth2s perferated muffers not them Loudmouth1 resonator bullets? I always figured that Loudmouth2s were simply a cheaper version of what the S-Types were but had a more raw throatier sound.
@@lanewarriorillridez3739 I had the loudmouth 2 which has packing vs. the loudmouth 1 doesn't I don't think.
@@mattofearle yes sir because the Loudmouth 1s like a piece of straight pipe and could be louder than every exhaust known to man in a bad way most cases. My Lincoln Mark 8 has Thrush Rattlers, Mustang GT vert has Super 44 Series, SRT Chrysler 300 has Corsa Extremes, Trailblazer SS has Original 40 Series, and the 5.0 liter Premier Mountaineer (Explorer Limited) had a true dual setup with 2 SLP Loudmouth2s, but putting that 24inch X-pipe on has turned my SLP Loudmouth2s into some Flowmaster Hushpowers (quiet) lol. It sucks but that truck is moving faster than it ever did so I need more throatier muffers to defeat that X-pipe. That's it lol!
@@lanewarriorillridez3739 I know what you mean. I have a V8 S10 you will see videos I posted of it recently. It was a single 3" XR-1 then I went to 2.5" duals with an x-pipe and it was way too quiet that I ended up with the shortest Magnaflows known to man before I was happy with the sound.
What size tires are you running? Also what brand lowering kit?
josh plummer Tires are 285/45-22 and everything is Belltech. 2" spindles, 2" struts and camber bushings up front. Belltech flip kit and shocks out back.
Cats?
Yes
VOLKS RIMS 17 FRONT ONLY? what do you think ?
O alruwai I'm not sure I understand the question.
Matt Earle th-cam.com/video/yQTnvBYd0ZQ/w-d-xo.html on a truck?
O alruwai those would look good.
Are running with/ without cats
@Salvador Torres jr. With
@@mattofearle what the setup you got
@@torresalvador15 the description of the video should have what you need. Kooks headers with their green cat y-pipe
Of all the mufflers you tested which one is the loudest and you like best?
Corsa was probably loudest at WOT but ATAK was loudest at all RPM's. I loved them both but liked ATAK because it was loudest at all RPM's. The Carven TR was a close fourth with the BBE being my third favorite but those two were not on the same level of loudness as the Corsa and ATAK.
@@mattofearleok is the borla atak louder than carven r also?
@@gilbertmunoz331 the Carven R may have been louder but not as deep or aggressive. It was basically a straight pipe so it wasn't as crisp and clean but was a tad louder I'd say.
@@mattofearle how much louder was the borla atak to the flowmaster super 10
@@gilbertmunoz331 not too much louder just more aggressive and sounded so much better.
I called borla to order the crate muffler and they told me the inside of the crate muffler is different from the kit. Is that bs?
No. The crate muffler is universal and the one from the kit is designed for each vehicle specifically. I believe the muffler in the kit is single inlet/ dial outlet too.
@@mattofearle so what about sound level? The same?
@@grandizer4531 I've never heard the kit in person. I can't compare.
@@mattofearle Matt which did you like better Corsa Db or Borla Atak?
@@grandizer4531 ATAK
Is the farm truck crackle bad like a glass pack?
Chase Trent it's not too bad. Just under certain loads and when cold.
Are the cats still stock?
No
@@mattofearle are they high flows or catless?
Kooks Hi-flow green cats
Holy shit sounds like NASCAR. Are those shorty headers and how much of a pita were they to install?
cinder 99 long tube headers and not too bad at all.
Does it drone in cab?
The volume of the ATAK resonated in the cab but I don't call it drone. It didn't bother me like some of the other ones but I enjoy hearing my exhaust inside and out.
@@mattofearle ah you hear that good rumble lol reason I asked is cause I have a t56 swapped ls3 headers x pipe true duals through 2 magnaflow bullet mufflers and the drone is fucking horrible your truck sounds fucking good lol so I'm gonna buy some ataks and see what they do hopefully they help 😅
@@labisk I noticed less drone than the Magnaflow and even XR1's. It is a lot louder but it's a crisp and higher pitch deep loud that doesn't make sense in writing. Lol it doesn't have the packing like those others so it doesn't have the low vibrating annoying drone tone that rattles that plastic going down the highway.
are these catless headers? and if so what did you with the 02's
Richard Morici This is a Kooks green catted y-pipe. With or without aftermarket cats, you will need to tune out cat inefficiency codes because they are not as efficient as the stock ones. I tuned my codes out and still have the O2 sensors functional as well.
Sounds like a nascar 😂😂😍😍
Have you heard a nascar it sounds nothing like a nascar
Anyone know if this muffler is better or the corsa atak one?
I'm not sure I understand what you are asking.
@@mattofearle is the corsa xtreme or the borla atak better sounding?
@CarGuruGalore tough to answer. If you want loud, deep and aggressive all the time, go ATAK. If you want loud cold starts, quiet warm idle and cruise but loud WOT, go Corsa.
@@mattofearle what corsa muffler would you recommend for a 5.3 truck. I already have a full borla exhaust so I don’t wanna swap it out for a whole new corsa one, so I just want a interchangeable crate muffler
@@CarGuruGalore headers? How loud do you want it?
Where did you mount this? Like close to engine or back?
About where the stock muffler ended right before it turns up over the rear axle.
I putt 2 on today and I can’t hardly hear the truck, I have no cats, dumped right after axle and you can’t hardly hear it at idle and I’m sad now.
@@jusincraze9527 stock manifolds? True duals?
Yeh stock headers, no cats true duals.
@@jusincraze9527 any x or h pipe? Duals will be quieter than a single. Slower velocity and more sound suppression.
do you know the decibel level per chance, have strict rules where I live
No. I never checked the decibel levels.
@@mattofearle I'm only allowed like 88 here lol
@@trevrox2 I'm pretty sure all the mufflers I tried with headers will be over 88 on a cold start except the solo performance.
What tire size is that
Did you lower the truck?
Uriel_C Cordero yep. Lol for the third and final time I think.
I got a 4/6 for mine but haven’t gotten around to getting it installed
Uriel_C Cordero that's basically where mine is now.
Your thoughts on the ATAK vs the XR-1?
John Robinson If you want as loud as you can get while being crisp and clean with a little tone, go ATAK. If you want less noise, but a deeper tone, go XR-1. The ATAK was louder inside the cab overall but good and the XR-1 being deeper had more drone sound most don't like. I like the ATAK more due to me always wanting louder, but I wish it was just a tad cleaner under medium loads where it can have that "farmtruck cackle" other than that it's almost perfect for me. There is no being quiet with this one. It's as loud or louder than the Corsa, but has a deeper tone down low that the Corsa doesn't have and that's where you can keep the Corsa quieter but not the ATAK. The XR-1's both had a deep clean tone, aggressive sound but not over the top at WOT.
is this setup legal? can you pass inspection with it? does it throw codes and leave engine light on?
I don't have inspections here but I would say it would not pass and needs tuned as it will throw codes that leave engine light on. I tuned mine out but not sure it would pass certain places.
Selling this truck?
Sold it in January.
Is this atak louder than or as loud as a flowmaster super 10
Yes
@@mattofearle thanks man thinking about switching it up I have an 05 with headers
@@jaredporter7450 I felt the ATAK was loudest at all RPM range of all the mufflers I tried
Hey where are you located you want this muffler I like the super 10 more
@@jaredporter7450 really? I hated the Super10. That's why I hate describing mufflers to people as my taste is not for the average person. Lol I'm in Ohio. What don't you like about it?
Whats the loudest exhaust u had?
The ATAK was the loudest all around in my opinion.
What part of Ohio are you from.
Southeastern Ohio. Marietta area.
@@mattofearle Sounds awesome brother.
@@CJColvin thanks.
@@mattofearle You're welcome brother.
what drop kit does this have?
4/6 Belltech
No cats?
tyler listebarger Kooks "green" cats are in place.
What drop is that I’m curious
victor bazan Belltech 4/5
Matt Earle that’s so weird it looks taller than a 3/5 drop lol I thought it was a 2/4 but I think my eyes are playing tricks on me
victor bazan it started life as a 4X4 Z71 then belltech drop struts set to 2", removed rear lift blocks and added 2" drop shackles. Just recently added the belltech 2" drop spindles and rear axle flip kit set at 5".
Guess I gotta get me one
- nobody I recommend it.
That warm start sounded like a wet fart
Which is louder super 10 or the atak?
Ivan Gonzalez The ATAK seems to be louder all around without the interior noise like the Super 10.
Is there any cats on the truck still??
Yes
Just get a borla don’t chance it