Black Sabbath Forbidden Full Album Documentary 'Rusty Angels Can't Fly' Anno Domini Tony Martin

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  • Original Documentary, The Story of Forbidden as told by Tony Iommi, Tony Martin, Cozy Powell, Neil Murray, Boddy Rondinelli, Geoff Nicholls. Featuring the story behind the lineup change, the tour and the songs from the album such as Get A Grip, I Won't Cry for You, Kiss Of Death, and all the others. Plus, we dive into the ICE-T controversy. Using more recent interviews and archival footage. Crosses & Thorns book: edtradernet.weebly.com/black-s... And don't forget to catch Tony Iommi and Brian May on Greatest Guitar Riffs 2023 on the BBC. Black Sabbath: Anno Domini 1989-1995 Tony Martin Boxset, will be released as 4CD and 4LP set. Check out Headless Cross 2024 Remastered HD Music Video
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  • @gregjohnson298
    @gregjohnson298 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    A very underrated era of Sabbath.Really hope to hear the Tony's together again someday.

  • @RobertWeingher
    @RobertWeingher 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I said it once and i'll say it again, it seems that a lot of artists don't understand their own music, Ozzy Osbourne hated the album The Ultimate Sin and some of Black Sabbath members never said something good about the album Forbidden, i loved the album back in 1995, i was the first one to buy the album in my city, i still love the album today, the song Sick And Tired has a great drum intro and a great guitar solo by Tony Iommi but nobody in the band ever mentioned that song, there is only one bad thing about the album, the production, the album sold more copies than the album Born Again, Black Sabbath had two main problems in 1995, a bad label and a bad producer, i saw most of the live shows from Forbidden tour on TH-cam, some of the shows were highly energised, most of the Forbidden albums were sold in the USA, so after all is said and done this album deserves more love, thanks for the Documentary video.

    • @jaredaviet8297
      @jaredaviet8297 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Preach! I feel exactly the same
      Way. I still do and have always enjoyed this album- the final album in the Tony Martin era. My fave songs are Get A Grip, Can’t Get Close Enough and Rusty Angles.

    • @richardhincemon
      @richardhincemon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Born Again reached #4 in the UK and #40 in the US

    • @EdwardBaggettEdtrader
      @EdwardBaggettEdtrader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can't turn to your current wife and say your ex-wife is better in bed. It's like that.

    • @alwilson3204
      @alwilson3204 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @viet8297 Agreed, along with I Won't Cry For You.

  • @augustabiehly7225
    @augustabiehly7225 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Love that era of the band. Neil Murray is one of the greatest rock bass players ever. The whole Tony Martin era is highly underrated which is a shame as it produced some amazing music.

    • @EdwardBaggettEdtrader
      @EdwardBaggettEdtrader  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I loved it so much that I wrote a book about it!! edtradernet.weebly.com/black-sabbath-crosses--thorns-book.html

  • @fraternachash6015
    @fraternachash6015 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The Tony Martin era is so underrated. What an amazing singer! Can't wait for the box set

  • @lordcevap96
    @lordcevap96 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love the 2024 remix! It became one of my favourite Sabbath albums!

  • @jonesy2111
    @jonesy2111 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I have to admit as a kid who got into Black Sabbath when I was barely over 12 (and have been into all different kinds of music over years and back into my favorites again) I have never listened to the Tony Martin era Sabbath but after seeing this and a few other things online I’ll have to give it a chance. He is an excellent singer, musician and frontman from what I’ve seen 👍💯

  • @Stockholm.sweden
    @Stockholm.sweden 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The Forbidden album is raw. I love it. Sabbath at it's best.

  • @luizfelipebrandao6238
    @luizfelipebrandao6238 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This channel has, by far, the best Black Sabbath's content on TH-cam,

    • @Hydrophish
      @Hydrophish 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I've been binging these for days. Love all of the behind-the-scenes stuff!

    • @analogwavelength
      @analogwavelength หลายเดือนก่อน

      Except for the annoying AI voice used for narration…

  • @jamie.777
    @jamie.777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Tony Martin sounds like a cool dude

  • @bikmellown4515
    @bikmellown4515 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "Rusty Angels" and "Can't Get Close Enough" are outstanding Sabbath Songs. Damn, are they overlooked.

    • @EdwardBaggettEdtrader
      @EdwardBaggettEdtrader  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Won't Cry For you is my favorite from the album. And my fav TM era song overall.

  • @gregcohen6158
    @gregcohen6158 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I'm glad Tony kept the flag flying ! Or as he said in interviews...he felt the need to carry on ! So glad he did .for all the posers that think this is rubbish ...let them think what they want....everyone has there opinions...! This album led to reformation of the original band ! Tony martin ...! Is so underrated! Hope one day .they start a new band ....the Headless Cross perhaps !

  • @Hydrophish
    @Hydrophish 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My favorite thing to do when watching these interviews is look at how uncomfortable Tony is when they're talking about band drama.

  • @sonicmojo
    @sonicmojo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Im a huge Black Sabbath fan from way back. Well, way back to my teen years. Since i was born in 69, those albums are Heaven and hell and beyond... By the time the mid 80s came i was branching out to other music. From Thrash to Alternative and Grunge. Though i hate all of those tittles. Nothing worse than how these "intelligensia" come up with these genre goddamn names is beyond me. But anyhow, i had stopped listening just before Tony Martin had come in. Hell, i didnt even know he existed, or any of those 90s albums. Now i just bought their entire discography on the Rhino box set, and its amazing. I specially love Forbidden! Cross Purposes is not bad either. Dehumanizer is amazing as well. Just alot of great music i missed out on. Thanks for making these documentaries and help catching me up! Amazing job. 😊🤘😊

    • @EdwardBaggettEdtrader
      @EdwardBaggettEdtrader  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have docs on other TM era albums on my channel!!!!! Thank you for the kind words

    • @sonicmojo
      @sonicmojo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EdwardBaggettEdtrader Absolutely, also cheking them out. Great channel!

  • @ThemFuzzyMonsters
    @ThemFuzzyMonsters 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    7:15 - the place in the AZ desert where planes are stored was selected because it is extremely dry: nothing rusts!
    Planes go there to serve as part storage, but sometimes they also get back into service, years later … because they didn’t rust.
    🙂

  • @ChapelTapes
    @ChapelTapes 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    great work! such an underrated album

  • @docvader82
    @docvader82 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great job finding the live clips of each song. Great video period.

    • @EdwardBaggettEdtrader
      @EdwardBaggettEdtrader  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My website is dedicated to archiving footage of the band.edtradernet.weebly.com/

  • @gladiator22666
    @gladiator22666 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tony Martin should have done more albums with Sabbath ……..

  • @buddylove346
    @buddylove346 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I must say the new remixed albums sound much better and as a long time Black Sabbath fan I think looking back over history it is clear to me that Tony Martin is the best singer the band ever had because of his voice and range he is the only one who could sing any song on all 19 albums.

  • @vaneipontes3824
    @vaneipontes3824 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Colin "Cozy Powell" Trevor Flooks 😢
    Geoffrey James Nicholls 😢
    Anthony Philip Harford
    Anthony Frank Iommi
    Neil John Murray

  • @RSBurgener
    @RSBurgener 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It just sucks that people in the 90's had the audacity to tell venerable musicians like Black Sabbath they needed to modernize. How well did that work out? They couldn't have just let them be and do what they do. Then in 2013, they told them they had to go back to the first album! It's such a bad thing to do. Iommi knows best.

  • @NagyDavidDVD
    @NagyDavidDVD 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great album!🤘

  • @jamie.777
    @jamie.777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good stuff! I got i.r.s forbidden cassette, and a bootleg vinyl... love the riffs

  • @ThibautKurt23
    @ThibautKurt23 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One of the first sabbath albums I bought. For a long time I only listened to I won’t cry for you and kiss of death (and they are still my favorite songs from that album) but I learned to appreciate the other songs too. I feel an old school vibe in that album and also a very rush feeling. Maybe if they had more time to polish the sound and refine the compositions it would have been better.

    • @EdwardBaggettEdtrader
      @EdwardBaggettEdtrader  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well said, even Tony Martin has said the songs just stopped progressing.

  • @hoosierhandgunner6232
    @hoosierhandgunner6232 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I always liked this album. Some good riffs

    • @EdwardBaggettEdtrader
      @EdwardBaggettEdtrader  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Shaking Off The Chains is my riff favorite from this album

    • @hoosierhandgunner6232
      @hoosierhandgunner6232 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, definitely a good riff and song. Also, Kiss of Death, Rusty Angel's are good songs. I always liked the riff in Illusion of Power as well. Not a terrible album by any stretch

  • @joshashley1156
    @joshashley1156 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nice work. I enjoyed the documentary quite a bit as I was "there" during the album and tour stop. Martin sounded good on both this album and the previous "Cross Purposes".
    Might be viewed as low point in Sabbath's discography, but far better than at least a few other Sab albums.
    Tough luck being a name band for SO long with such a storied, legendary body of work!
    I enjoy the music and the confidence, misguided or not of musicians creating art.

    • @billschwenke790
      @billschwenke790 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Many miss Cozy Powell, he seems like the Keith Moon of Heavy Metal in dome respects

    • @billschwenke790
      @billschwenke790 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Typo obviously: some

    • @timmackenzie8145
      @timmackenzie8145 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@billschwenke790 Cozy only wishes he had Moons chops!! Or Bill’s!

    • @richardhincemon
      @richardhincemon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cozy Powell amazing drummer absolutely brilliant 👏 😊

  • @nickmansfield1
    @nickmansfield1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To me this is actually a lot like ZZ Top Eliminator there isn't a single song I can say I don't like even though some are better than others. Some of Martin's live stuff was a bit weak but where he's got his voice it is pretty amazing and the band could really rock in this lineup. Saw Sabbath, first and only time, with Ozzy about a decade ago now. A must see, but I would have so loved to have seen this! I never even knew this existed until recent years it was so poorly promoted. The talk of a Sabbath tour in Australia being cancelled, that I may have heard but it's so long ago I can't be sure.

    • @ThemFuzzyMonsters
      @ThemFuzzyMonsters หลายเดือนก่อน

      IMHO, Black Sabbath started becoming less popular from about 1985 on, with a small resurgence in 1992 when Dio rejoined briefly. By 1993 Tony Martin’s big vocals just didn’t fit the times very well and the band wasn’t marketed as effectively as Ozzy was.
      The production level on those ’90s Black Sabbath tours was getting smaller (no more stage props), the venues were often smaller, so the live material we get to see now is mostly bootlegs, or not very well put together in the first place.

    • @nickmansfield1
      @nickmansfield1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThemFuzzyMonsters Only good Ozzy album was Ozmosis but he did make some singles.

    • @DaPoopIsInDaPudding
      @DaPoopIsInDaPudding 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nickmansfield1wrong. Way wrong

  • @kevinhodgson8508
    @kevinhodgson8508 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The footage of Bobby Rondinelli speaking about being told to avoid Cozy Powell is in relation to when Bobby joined Rainbow ( this occurred at Castle Donnington ) ... "It's a shit business !"

    • @EdwardBaggettEdtrader
      @EdwardBaggettEdtrader  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bobby said this on another Sabbath documentary. Where he also talks about getting Tony's number.

  • @billschwenke790
    @billschwenke790 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love Eternal Idol the most, such a Heaven and Hell or Back in Black type slab of Heavy Rock, not dated by 40 years at all!!!!

    • @EdwardBaggettEdtrader
      @EdwardBaggettEdtrader  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have a documentary on that album on my channel as well, check it out!!!!!

  • @tome.302
    @tome.302 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I listened to the first song and shut it off during the second song, couldn’t take any more.

    • @alwilson3204
      @alwilson3204 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I still feel it is better than Headless Cross.

    • @alanthorne3921
      @alanthorne3921 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alwilson3204Better than Headless Cross?Im gobsmacked.

  • @thesgkiddave
    @thesgkiddave 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Forbidden is not a bad album definitely not their best but has really cool moments.

    • @EdwardBaggettEdtrader
      @EdwardBaggettEdtrader  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      If nothing else Tony Iommi has some cool riffs on the album.

  • @tomvarley1020
    @tomvarley1020 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the single cut guitar Tony is playing on Can't Get Close Enough Together?

  • @kevinhodgson8508
    @kevinhodgson8508 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For me , nothing is Black Sabbath other than the original 4 members . That said , because of the professionalism / experience and raw talent ( especially Tony Martin in this case ) there have been some great shows / tracks and albums ( usually with awful artwork / covers in my view ) along the way . There is more to Tony Martin's vocals than heavy rock / metal . I think he would be perfect to work again with Iommi and Bill Ward in a post Sabbath project leaning slightly more towards jazz / blues ( not unlike the earliest Sabbath material ) .

  • @pigcharmer9926
    @pigcharmer9926 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Forbidden doesn't deserve all the s**t that it gets, a lot of good songs in here
    and to be honest, Ice T + Black Sabbath album would have been an interesting idea, imagine the hate😂

  • @311superfly
    @311superfly 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Martin looks like George Carlin. LMAO saw him with BSin Jacksonville around 2000. Iommi rules

  • @EdwardBaggettEdtrader
    @EdwardBaggettEdtrader  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    YT forced me to make a small edit

    • @aleksandarpejcic2077
      @aleksandarpejcic2077 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Eddie, great material as usual, thank you. 🙏❤️

    • @EdwardBaggettEdtrader
      @EdwardBaggettEdtrader  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      TH-cam forced me to make a few edits. So you might notice a jump in a few spots@@aleksandarpejcic2077

    • @aleksandarpejcic2077
      @aleksandarpejcic2077 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EdwardBaggettEdtrader yeah, I've noticed, and wanted to ask you is there some useful info, or just the music that was not allowed?

    • @EdwardBaggettEdtrader
      @EdwardBaggettEdtrader  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Changes live in 1995 was blocked, but it was just the audio. And it took off like 5 seconds of dialogue with. Just that the bands last gig on the tour was canceled. I am trying to earn some revenue so I can afford to keep doing these videos

  • @scarborosasquatchstation1403
    @scarborosasquatchstation1403 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tony Martin... Just can't tell the difference from one song to the next.. lol

  • @DarksaberForce
    @DarksaberForce 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's the song at 29:16?

  • @brentstewart59
    @brentstewart59 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sounds like this was Tony Iommi's band with no Sabbath members

    • @kasperkjrsgaard1447
      @kasperkjrsgaard1447 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They have been in Black Sabbath before.

    • @richardhincemon
      @richardhincemon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      IOMMI is Sabbath 😊

  • @TheWolfe666
    @TheWolfe666 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They could've got Leif Masses as producer, but instead they got Ernie C. That's really a step.

    • @EdwardBaggettEdtrader
      @EdwardBaggettEdtrader  วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheWolfe666 if Sabbath wouldn't have hired Ernie, some other band would have eventually. Someone has to be the first to see if it would work or not. Ice T worked with Motorhead, which a lot of folks overlook.

  • @Solidballofrock
    @Solidballofrock 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is there nothing but piano music during the last quarter of the video

    • @EdwardBaggettEdtrader
      @EdwardBaggettEdtrader  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      TH-cam audio copyright claim after the video had been up awhile. The documentary picks back up after it.

  • @edwhite7475
    @edwhite7475 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This guy sounds like a 'poor mans Dio', but i never liked anything after Ozzy left.
    Hard to believe the guy with the least amount of vocal 'chops' was the best, and Geezer wrote the best lyrics, but thats the case here.
    anybody who tells Cozy Powell how to play drums is fucking up.
    Im a big Bill Ward fan-
    He was THE 'Sabbath' drummer, nobody 'swings' like Bill,
    but Cozy's albums w Jeff Beck Group and Rainbow are SO great,
    its sad how ignorant the public can be.😢

  • @isaiaslimadesouza1
    @isaiaslimadesouza1 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love Black Sabbath but for me these is the worst album, Ice- T put a kind rap and I hate it.

  • @tommymaier3017
    @tommymaier3017 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    then again i think all Tony Martin stuff suxx

    • @ThibautKurt23
      @ThibautKurt23 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There are incredible songs on the Martin albums : I love the whole eternal idol I rank it at the same level of Heaven and Hell.
      On headless cross many great songs : Headless cross, When death calls, Nightwing
      Tyr : Anno Mundi , Sabbath Stones, Jerusalem , Battle of Tyr/Odin’s court / Valhalla are great
      Cross purposes is a great album and a worthy successor to Dehumanizer .
      Although I don’t like forbidden that much is still enjoy it

    • @alwilson3204
      @alwilson3204 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ThibautKurt23 Most of the stuff on Tyr and Eternal Idol were good songs.

    • @ThibautKurt23
      @ThibautKurt23 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@alwilson3204iommi never made bad songs

  • @blakedawson2129
    @blakedawson2129 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I found the whole iceT thing embarrassing.

    • @EdwardBaggettEdtrader
      @EdwardBaggettEdtrader  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      What's funny is that no one gives Lemmy Kilmister any lip about doing a song with IceT. Or Tony Iommi with Wu Tang Clan.

    • @blakedawson2129
      @blakedawson2129 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@EdwardBaggettEdtrader I didn't care for that much either. I like body count a lot. but to me sabbath is kinda sacred.

  • @tommymaier3017
    @tommymaier3017 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    pretty bad album lol

  • @briankehew579
    @briankehew579 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Probably one of the worst album covers.

  • @pegetox1
    @pegetox1 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Terrible album.

  • @timmackenzie8145
    @timmackenzie8145 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh it’s the sucky sabbath…..never mind