2 Useful Tips: 1) Instant Friction AOE attack goes to Healers. Timed Friction that shows red AOE area goes to DPS. Keep healers and DPS separate and it will greatly reduce how much healers have to heal. Reckoning should be the ONLY thing that causes damage to DPS through the entire fight. 2) After Reckoning, when plumes are going to come out, have everyone stack right behind Garuda. This will cause all the Razor Plumes to swarm onto Garuda. OT moves spiney away. This makes it so no one even has to change target off of Garuda and can simply AOE attack her and it will damage her AND Razor plumes. After razor plumes are dead- DPS can stay there, healers should move away to prevent Friction damage to everyone else. Utilize these tips and you'll be on your way to having a single healer party. Or a very confident 2 healer party. Hope this helps. Happy hunting!
This video is the reason of so many wipes, use the triangle method, let the party take Chirada, her damage will be divided between all the people it hits.
my fc got the funniest first clear on this ever! someone accidentally popped the spiney too soon. we all thought we were screwed until someone just yealled in voice chat, LAST BASTION! the off tank used the teir 3 lb and we managed to survive easily...followed but lots of laughter
Killing Suparna only during the tornado phase saves a LOT of headache. It allows the off tank to provoke the spiny, whether it goes to the main tank or ranged members, and makes the dps check MUCH easier. It's hard killing both if you brought melee or aren't covered in i90 gear (which most people aren't). You DO run the risk of melee being hit with WW by attacking Suparna first, but you can mitigate this by putting Garuda n Suparna in the corner next to the tornado and the outside wall (as far from center as possible) to allow melee room to back up and avoid it. As long as the spiny is weakened and ready to go when she jumps, you're good to go!
Probably wasn't widely known at the time this video went out, but Garuda's Friction (the instant one) is always aimed at a healer, so it's a good idea to have your healers away from the rest of your party to cut down on AoE damage.
Was hoping I'd have a few days to play around with the mechanics before you posted a guide on it :P Oh well, I'm all about efficiency! Thanks for the great guide again, Mr. Happy~
I have to agree with Jack. Especially because not all FCs have the damage that mr happys has. Also I think it works better with provokes cooldown. Ot provokes plume as sisters spawn, party can pop some aoes on MTs mobs, then when Chirada dies: ot has provoke again and tanks trade plume for Superna.
As a tank I have noticed that if the party downs kill Churada shortly after Garuda and Suprana do their jump and land, that Suprana will do "Whicked Wheel" with Garuda which will instant kill a tank with full health and defense buffs active. (iLVL 82 with 6100+ HP) Of course using Holy Ground will save the tank, but if you are using the first time they pop then you really don't have the DPS needed to continue. Also my friend and I believe that during the "Corner" phase that tanks should tank their "prey" with their backs on the center tornado, this way the "Spiney Plume" will always be in range of a tanks provoke without having to move targets and melee DPS will still have flank and behind positions. We have yet to confirm it as our FC is super small with only me and my friend the only two really geared out to so anything. Anyways if anyone testes this theory out please let me know how well it worked. (If I get it tested out then I will post on this comment on results.
it is Hallowed Ground, as I was typing on phone and tired when i posted. If anyone ass advice for me on what to do with the double "Wicked Wheel" please help me out. Any advice would be useful. This fight is so easy, yet this one mechanic is what is stopping me from completing Garuda extreme.
Jauhn Chinera I've not Tanked it yet but how quick is the telegraph? Is it possible to move so you only get hit by one of them when it comes up? Assuming you can survive one of them with just a normal defence buff?
i can survive both; its the auto attack(s) right after that i die at most of the time. But if i am not topped off before hand even with one of my damage reductions i will die
I ran this once with a complete failure. I killed spiney right when it showed up -___- I didn't know and everyone blamed me. Next time I go, I'll be a pro. Thanks Mr. H!!
well it's nice to know that the extreme mode fights are completely different from the other modes, but to think of all the effort they put into making it a completely new fight; why not just make it a completely new boss itself? i'm glad they added ultima weapon as a fight though. his fight in the story was so upsetting lol.
I suppose I am inclined to agree. Hopefully with both HM and EX primals coming out simultaneously as of Patch 2.2 (with Leviathan getting both his HM and EX at the same time) I suppose it'll make a lore more sense.
because it takes a large amount of time. Designing a new fight + new model(rigging,texturing etc.) + animations. So doing a new fight with pre-existing characters is a lot less work.
I'm glad they did it really, Ifrit and Garuda HM had become completely trivial and even Titan HM is easy now with all the lag fixes, really left something to be desired in the way of difficulty and now we got it.
What is your opinions of the alchemist potions for elemental resistances. do they actually make any difference at all? and would they help in the extreme fights.
I´ve been trying to figure this out. when the 2nd Spiny plume spawns, what exactly is the off tank doing to get it both Chirada´s and Spiny´s aggro. Since the Spiny plume should automatically aggro the MT so the off tank have to try to aggro both of them right?
Had a problem when during some pulls, our main tank with Suparna and Garuda would get double wicked wheeled before Chirada died. It seemed to happen when Chirada was still up, so before the off tank would come to pull Suparna off. Average ilvl of 80+ also, so I dont think it was an issue of killing Chirada fast enough. It seemed very inconsistent though, with it just not happening sometimes. Is this something you had to deal with at all? and if so, how did you avoid it?
Wicked Wheel just likes to happen from time to time, from what we can tell it just depends on where all of Garuda's other cooldowns are when you enter the phase. Strong cooldowns and lots of attention are key to surviving Suparna+Garuda
first off Chirada does not use wicked wheel, only downburst. Downburst is marked by bullseye from Chirada and if timed right can be avoided. At the same time, Garuda and Suparna will drop wicked wheel.
Mrhappy1227 Debatable, allagan provides 2 pretty useless stats when you're capped in accuracy, only benefit being the higher P.DMG but for BRD. Imo, the Elfin is far better due to providing much better stats
***** If you are wearing the right set of gear Allagan Bow's Accuracy allows you to use Bard Pants, which has nearly identical stats to the Elfin Bow. With the Elfin Bow you just wear Allagan Pants instead, which yields higher Crit. Unfortunately, Crit scales VERY poorly, as about 50 crit = ~1% crit chance against TT.
I've only had Chirada use it ONCE in one of our very first attempts right before Garuda jumped for Aerial Blast. I'd say its a non-factor on serious attempts.
I also found that one of the main problems that most tanks make in this fight is bringing Spiny way 2 soon to Garuda/Suprana not allowing any kind of aoe's to be casted on them. I really dont find the reason why the OT cant hold Spiny on the other side while ppl bane/dot and place static aoe's around both targets in order to add more dps to the fight...
how do you deal with wicked wheel as a melee, especially in phase 4? what's the range of wicked wheel? do you have room to avoid it or where does the tank have to tank suprana so you have the room?
Correct me if I'm wrong, if not enough DPS is done to Garuda after Suprana/Chi start spawning does she herself pretty much negating any dmg you do to her. I ran this the other day and Garuda's health didnt seem to go down at all. We did 4 cycles of the spawns and she was not going down mainly because we didnt have enough AOE on the feathers and single target AOE was pretty much being wasted on them. Does she heal herself as much or possibly more than Hard Mode?
The red AoE that spawns when Garuda jumps into the air is the new mechanic, Feather Rain I think it was called. Garuda's frictions work like they did in HM she targets someone and does friction to them, I think it has a cast time but it's probably only about 0.5-1 second, Chirada and Suparna have slightly different frictions where they target someone and then leave an AoE circle around them and they can be dodged by the looks of it.
What about Eating 2xWicked Wheels as MT? so far in my exp me and pld's that are well geared are taken nearly to no health by eating supurna and garuda's wheel.
***** Our coil group went at this fight yesterday and noticed something interesting. From the (many) failed issues with the sisters, it appears as though only Suparna and Garuda are able to Wicked Wheel. Chirada would never use. Our tank kept dropping to double Wicked Wheels while holding Suparna. Once we swapped to killing Suparna first, Wicked Wheel was used once on each tank where Chirada wouldn't use it at all. This happened well over 15 times during our runs and was consistent every time. Would love some verification on this and also potential downsides to that method. Also, I know Wicked Wheel is PBAoE but I haven't found anything that gives warning of when to move out of range as tank. Short of winging it and randomly popping CD's, is there a better way to handle them? Thanks!
I can't recall Chirada using it, and its likely the way its being done most commonly to deal with Garuda/Suparna's swap is not the intended way to be done. Usually one tank can just rotate cooldowns on Suparna + Garuda only until the off-tank can provoke it off, and with their phases being so far apart you usually have all defensives up for every Garuda + Suparna.
Mrhappy1227 Thanks for the quick response. I just thought it was interesting that Chirada never used. The double Wicked Wheel's definitely caused some issues with our MT PLD at 6400 HP who was rotating CD's. HM sisters granted damage/heal buffs to Garuda; is it possible XM mechanics no longer include those buffs and are instead based on available skillets for the sisters? Didn't notice any regeneration on Garuda with Chirada being left alone for an extended period of time but I could very well be mistaken.
robsyx84 Yeah the new sisters don't grant buffs other than Stoneskins+Wicked Wheel now. Chirada is just there to give you trouble with killing Suparna.
have you ever even tried heroic raiding in current wow? please gtfo this game is a sinch compared to heroic wow raiding. so many tools that can do LFR think that it earns them the right to talk smack on the best MMO raiding experiance ever made.. FFXIV still has a long way to get to that level. having said that its on the right road. Unlike every mmo since wow. (maybe with exceptions to LOTR)
You're probably one of the people who never did heroic, at least not current content. That being said, I still think this is pretty hard, and fun. Raiding heroic Siege of Orgrimmar at the moment, I'd say the difficulty of this is pretty much identical, which is actually pretty good, I'm glad to see the game turning out like this.
Vasana612 So it's hard because many people can fuck up? No, I haven't done current level raiding, I was endgaming TBC and WOTLK. Why have I not done current level raiding? Because just playing the game for 10 minutes bores me nowadays. Everything up to pandaria is a slugfest. No challenge or enjoyment whatsoever. You're saying that you have to get to the endgame until things will change up from something braindead would handle to something actually fun and challenging? I do take my words back in that case, WoW is that complex and might be really awesome currently. I am just one who will never understand why the trip has to be so boring when the destination isn't in that case.
you know what's funny...garuda hm is the easiest of the extreme primals. nothing in wow can even compare whatsoever to ifrit extreme. go ahead and rage wow people, i invite you.
The tanks in my group have the hardest time getting the sisters and the plume in phase three. Specifically, after chirada dies they cant get both spiral plume and Suprana
This may seem like a silly question but...as a BLM should I be using single spells like Fire and Thundercloud against the swarms of Razor plumes? Or should I A.O.E like crazy? I was told not to A.O.E. when the Spiney Plume to make sure I didnt kill it but we dont kill the Razor Plumes fast enough. :(
I've been too scared to try this fight again after wiping a group like 4 times, i90 war, I can get to the tornado phase fine, but juggling aggro with the spiny, it just scares me too much, also by scared I mean the fear of letting everyone down and getting ripped into.
Thanks for this.. My group had all of this down the only thing I didn't know about was spine plume exploding.. Every time I mentioned the stacks my party was just like it's just a resistance debuff.. Moral of the story.. Listen to your healer lol
So, I'm curious. I hear Happy's favourite class isn't bard, despite him using it for his guides a lot. What's his favourite, then? Also, did he fantasia his falafel into an elezen at some point? Or does he simply have several bard characters? I just.. I'm curious.
You've got a new subscriber Mr.Happy! :) As OT, I was clueless about this fight. Provoke is so important for a tank; shame i didn't even consider it until this one kicked my ass.
Did they ever fix all the massive issues with latency? Because I can't see how anyone can win more of these dodge mechanic fights when Titan and coil was already impossible for a large chunk of players due to the horrible latency in the game.
Lieoney Yeah she switches positions even if you leave her next to Garuda. They just jump up and do Feather Rain once in the phase regardless, and also switch.
During twister phase if you have chirada in place of suprana instead it's a pain. My FC found out it is better to take down suprana first. Due to wicked wheel no longer casting once suprana is downed instead of taking down chirada first. Still tank the same mt/ot.
Once when I was a kid, I waited outside in the woods standing perfectly still for over twelve hours with some bird seed on my shoulder, and when a bird finally came I punched it right in the face.
what happens if mt has to provoke spiny off of ot? I don't think walking through tornadoes with garuda and suparna on his ass would be a good idea.... oh and btw your warrior in the video is too overgeared for the fight so simply he's not just a tank and he can take the damage from tornadoes...
You can calmly go from the far end to one of the closer ends without running directly through, and that gets you in Provoke Range :) Provoke has a range of about a Tornado. Also, if your group has lethargy, putting it on the Spiny will cause the stacks to apply slower :)
Can't beat this shit for the life of me. The OT always fucks up with suprana. The healers sometimes never use holy. A noob kills spiny. A noob doesn't kill spine plume. Someone gets wheeled. Someone forget there's a tornado all over the place. and the worst...someone forgets to hide behind the fucking pillar at the beginning of the fight!!!! It's an endless barrage of badluck and angering bullshit i'm having.
Just watched this to prepare myself for the Garuda EX as I didn't do too well in HM, wish me the best and maybe I'll record to share. One quick question, what are your hotbar settings? I too play a BRD and was wondering on what you use etc etc.
I just want to say that the way this fight is being done requires no mistakes from the MT and gets screwed up if Spiny lands on anyone other than the OT initially A much easier method is to have the dps face tank Chirada, MT take Garuda/ and then Suparna on switch, and the OT take Suparna/ and then Garuda No more double wicked wheels, no more cd timing, and no more "provoke cd nonsense"
May want to add that ALL of the DPS/healers need to facetank it to split the Downburst :) For those wondering this is the JP method, which most NA players refer to as the Triangle Method, since it splits up all three mobs.
2 Useful Tips:
1) Instant Friction AOE attack goes to Healers. Timed Friction that shows red AOE area goes to DPS. Keep healers and DPS separate and it will greatly reduce how much healers have to heal. Reckoning should be the ONLY thing that causes damage to DPS through the entire fight.
2) After Reckoning, when plumes are going to come out, have everyone stack right behind Garuda. This will cause all the Razor Plumes to swarm onto Garuda. OT moves spiney away. This makes it so no one even has to change target off of Garuda and can simply AOE attack her and it will damage her AND Razor plumes. After razor plumes are dead- DPS can stay there, healers should move away to prevent Friction damage to everyone else.
Utilize these tips and you'll be on your way to having a single healer party. Or a very confident 2 healer party.
Hope this helps. Happy hunting!
I keep saying, but you have the best strategy videos on the TH-cams.
This video is the reason of so many wipes, use the triangle method, let the party take Chirada, her damage will be divided between all the people it hits.
Thank you so much for your extreme guides. It should be mandatory for all people who have not ran something to watch your videos.
my fc got the funniest first clear on this ever! someone accidentally popped the spiney too soon. we all thought we were screwed until someone just yealled in voice chat, LAST BASTION! the off tank used the teir 3 lb and we managed to survive easily...followed but lots of laughter
That was funny and a close call
2nd part of the breakdown is much better, thanks!
Magipwn here, Thank you so much Mr. Happy.
We downed Garuda EM soon after the Twitch live stream.
Killing Suparna only during the tornado phase saves a LOT of headache. It allows the off tank to provoke the spiny, whether it goes to the main tank or ranged members, and makes the dps check MUCH easier. It's hard killing both if you brought melee or aren't covered in i90 gear (which most people aren't). You DO run the risk of melee being hit with WW by attacking Suparna first, but you can mitigate this by putting Garuda n Suparna in the corner next to the tornado and the outside wall (as far from center as possible) to allow melee room to back up and avoid it. As long as the spiny is weakened and ready to go when she jumps, you're good to go!
Probably wasn't widely known at the time this video went out, but Garuda's Friction (the instant one) is always aimed at a healer, so it's a good idea to have your healers away from the rest of your party to cut down on AoE damage.
Was hoping I'd have a few days to play around with the mechanics before you posted a guide on it :P Oh well, I'm all about efficiency! Thanks for the great guide again, Mr. Happy~
I like the second half of the video much better. Easier to understand when you explain it as you're actually doing it. Thanks
i resubb'd ffxiv cuz of your channel. here we go 2.1!
I have to agree with Jack. Especially because not all FCs have the damage that mr happys has. Also I think it works better with provokes cooldown. Ot provokes plume as sisters spawn, party can pop some aoes on MTs mobs, then when Chirada dies: ot has provoke again and tanks trade plume for Superna.
Thanks for the guide. Got the mechanic down in one sitting. Great one so far. Can't wait for Titan and Ifrit.
As a tank I have noticed that if the party downs kill Churada shortly after Garuda and Suprana do their jump and land, that Suprana will do "Whicked Wheel" with Garuda which will instant kill a tank with full health and defense buffs active. (iLVL 82 with 6100+ HP) Of course using Holy Ground will save the tank, but if you are using the first time they pop then you really don't have the DPS needed to continue.
Also my friend and I believe that during the "Corner" phase that tanks should tank their "prey" with their backs on the center tornado, this way the "Spiney Plume" will always be in range of a tanks provoke without having to move targets and melee DPS will still have flank and behind positions. We have yet to confirm it as our FC is super small with only me and my friend the only two really geared out to so anything. Anyways if anyone testes this theory out please let me know how well it worked. (If I get it tested out then I will post on this comment on results.
As a tank, I'd call it "hallowed ground".
Armando Gonzalez
The attacks don't have the same name in every language, Esuna is called Dispel apparently in French :P
it is Hallowed Ground, as I was typing on phone and tired when i posted. If anyone ass advice for me on what to do with the double "Wicked Wheel" please help me out. Any advice would be useful. This fight is so easy, yet this one mechanic is what is stopping me from completing Garuda extreme.
Jauhn Chinera
I've not Tanked it yet but how quick is the telegraph? Is it possible to move so you only get hit by one of them when it comes up? Assuming you can survive one of them with just a normal defence buff?
i can survive both; its the auto attack(s) right after that i die at most of the time. But if i am not topped off before hand even with one of my damage reductions i will die
I ran this once with a complete failure. I killed spiney right when it showed up -___- I didn't know and everyone blamed me. Next time I go, I'll be a pro. Thanks Mr. H!!
well it's nice to know that the extreme mode fights are completely different from the other modes, but to think of all the effort they put into making it a completely new fight; why not just make it a completely new boss itself? i'm glad they added ultima weapon as a fight though. his fight in the story was so upsetting lol.
I suppose I am inclined to agree. Hopefully with both HM and EX primals coming out simultaneously as of Patch 2.2 (with Leviathan getting both his HM and EX at the same time) I suppose it'll make a lore more sense.
because it takes a large amount of time. Designing a new fight + new model(rigging,texturing etc.) + animations. So doing a new fight with pre-existing characters is a lot less work.
I'm glad they did it really, Ifrit and Garuda HM had become completely trivial and even Titan HM is easy now with all the lag fixes, really left something to be desired in the way of difficulty and now we got it.
Thank you so much for your videos. They are a tremendous help, especially from a tanks perspective.
Just to mention: Both tanks standing at the edge of the center circle should bring mobs close enough to Provoke swap plume/Suparna.
gosh. this is so much to take in.
What is your opinions of the alchemist potions for elemental resistances. do they actually make any difference at all? and would they help in the extreme fights.
Nah we tried them on Hard Modes and it barely did anything, can't imagine they are worth much more here.
I´ve been trying to figure this out. when the 2nd Spiny plume spawns, what exactly is the off tank doing to get it both Chirada´s and Spiny´s aggro. Since the Spiny plume should automatically aggro the MT so the off tank have to try to aggro both of them right?
Provoke Spiny, Tomahawks Chirada :)
great thanks.. kinda self explanatory but was thinking that the provoke still would be on cooldown after killing her=)
Had a problem when during some pulls, our main tank with Suparna and Garuda would get double wicked wheeled before Chirada died. It seemed to happen when Chirada was still up, so before the off tank would come to pull Suparna off. Average ilvl of 80+ also, so I dont think it was an issue of killing Chirada fast enough. It seemed very inconsistent though, with it just not happening sometimes. Is this something you had to deal with at all? and if so, how did you avoid it?
Wicked Wheel just likes to happen from time to time, from what we can tell it just depends on where all of Garuda's other cooldowns are when you enter the phase. Strong cooldowns and lots of attention are key to surviving Suparna+Garuda
Thanks for the guide!
first off Chirada does not use wicked wheel, only downburst. Downburst is marked by bullseye from Chirada and if timed right can be avoided. At the same time, Garuda and Suparna will drop wicked wheel.
Can someone tell me the weapon from beating 3 Extreme Primal is any better then +1 Relic? Otherwise, I won't even bother with it. Thanks!
Depends on Class, for BRD, yes, its better than all weapons.
***** Allagan Bow is Best in Slow
Mrhappy1227 Debatable, allagan provides 2 pretty useless stats when you're capped in accuracy, only benefit being the higher P.DMG but for BRD. Imo, the Elfin is far better due to providing much better stats
***** If you are wearing the right set of gear Allagan Bow's Accuracy allows you to use Bard Pants, which has nearly identical stats to the Elfin Bow. With the Elfin Bow you just wear Allagan Pants instead, which yields higher Crit. Unfortunately, Crit scales VERY poorly, as about 50 crit = ~1% crit chance against TT.
Very nice video, the only thing, are you 100% sure that both chirada and suparna get wicked wheel? I've seen only Suparna using it!
I've only had Chirada use it ONCE in one of our very first attempts right before Garuda jumped for Aerial Blast. I'd say its a non-factor on serious attempts.
Mr.happy great video question have you heard of the jp method for Garuda extreme and if possible your opinion thank you
I also found that one of the main problems that most tanks make in this fight is bringing Spiny way 2 soon to Garuda/Suprana not allowing any kind of aoe's to be casted on them. I really dont find the reason why the OT cant hold Spiny on the other side while ppl bane/dot and place static aoe's around both targets in order to add more dps to the fight...
how do you deal with wicked wheel as a melee, especially in phase 4? what's the range of wicked wheel? do you have room to avoid it or where does the tank have to tank suprana so you have the room?
Correct me if I'm wrong, if not enough DPS is done to Garuda after Suprana/Chi start spawning does she herself pretty much negating any dmg you do to her. I ran this the other day and Garuda's health didnt seem to go down at all. We did 4 cycles of the spawns and she was not going down mainly because we didnt have enough AOE on the feathers and single target AOE was pretty much being wasted on them. Does she heal herself as much or possibly more than Hard Mode?
Does friction have a cast time or is it the red aoe that spawns when she disapears?
The red AoE that spawns when Garuda jumps into the air is the new mechanic, Feather Rain I think it was called. Garuda's frictions work like they did in HM she targets someone and does friction to them, I think it has a cast time but it's probably only about 0.5-1 second, Chirada and Suparna have slightly different frictions where they target someone and then leave an AoE circle around them and they can be dodged by the looks of it.
Great guide,Happy. :) Helps alot watching the process on vids rather than asking for the strategy in-fight which can be distractive. ^_^
What about Eating 2xWicked Wheels as MT? so far in my exp me and pld's that are well geared are taken nearly to no health by eating supurna and garuda's wheel.
Our tanks rotate CDs through the phase and can usually get away with a good deal of health. We've done it with both Warrior and Paladin.
***** Our coil group went at this fight yesterday and noticed something interesting. From the (many) failed issues with the sisters, it appears as though only Suparna and Garuda are able to Wicked Wheel. Chirada would never use. Our tank kept dropping to double Wicked Wheels while holding Suparna. Once we swapped to killing Suparna first, Wicked Wheel was used once on each tank where Chirada wouldn't use it at all. This happened well over 15 times during our runs and was consistent every time. Would love some verification on this and also potential downsides to that method.
Also, I know Wicked Wheel is PBAoE but I haven't found anything that gives warning of when to move out of range as tank. Short of winging it and randomly popping CD's, is there a better way to handle them? Thanks!
I can't recall Chirada using it, and its likely the way its being done most commonly to deal with Garuda/Suparna's swap is not the intended way to be done. Usually one tank can just rotate cooldowns on Suparna + Garuda only until the off-tank can provoke it off, and with their phases being so far apart you usually have all defensives up for every Garuda + Suparna.
Mrhappy1227
Thanks for the quick response. I just thought it was interesting that Chirada never used. The double Wicked Wheel's definitely caused some issues with our MT PLD at 6400 HP who was rotating CD's. HM sisters granted damage/heal buffs to Garuda; is it possible XM mechanics no longer include those buffs and are instead based on available skillets for the sisters? Didn't notice any regeneration on Garuda with Chirada being left alone for an extended period of time but I could very well be mistaken.
robsyx84 Yeah the new sisters don't grant buffs other than Stoneskins+Wicked Wheel now. Chirada is just there to give you trouble with killing Suparna.
thank you for the tips :D learn alot
Great video, thanks!
Very nice! Now for Mog King please lol.
Nothing in WoW was ever this complex.
have you ever even tried heroic raiding in current wow? please gtfo this game is a sinch compared to heroic wow raiding. so many tools that can do LFR think that it earns them the right to talk smack on the best MMO raiding experiance ever made.. FFXIV still has a long way to get to that level. having said that its on the right road. Unlike every mmo since wow. (maybe with exceptions to LOTR)
You're probably one of the people who never did heroic, at least not current content. That being said, I still think this is pretty hard, and fun. Raiding heroic Siege of Orgrimmar at the moment, I'd say the difficulty of this is pretty much identical, which is actually pretty good, I'm glad to see the game turning out like this.
Vasana612
So it's hard because many people can fuck up?
No, I haven't done current level raiding, I was endgaming TBC and WOTLK. Why have I not done current level raiding? Because just playing the game for 10 minutes bores me nowadays. Everything up to pandaria is a slugfest. No challenge or enjoyment whatsoever.
You're saying that you have to get to the endgame until things will change up from something braindead would handle to something actually fun and challenging? I do take my words back in that case, WoW is that complex and might be really awesome currently. I am just one who will never understand why the trip has to be so boring when the destination isn't in that case.
you know what's funny...garuda hm is the easiest of the extreme primals. nothing in wow can even compare whatsoever to ifrit extreme. go ahead and rage wow people, i invite you.
BookOfSaints You seem to be inexperienced in both the extreme primals and WoW current heroics actually, so not much to say here.
The tanks in my group have the hardest time getting the sisters and the plume in phase three. Specifically, after chirada dies they cant get both spiral plume and Suprana
If DPS is too fast, it can be difficult to have Provoke Up for the Spiny Plume/Suparna switch. Lethargy helps with this A LOT.
Mrhappy1227 It doesn't go to dpses. The Spiny Plume goes back to the main tank instead of going to the off tank.
paradigmfellow I think he just means the dps is so fast that Provoke is still on cooldown the next time you need it.
Happy...you wouldn't happen to know the drop rate for her vortex feather, would you??
This may seem like a silly question but...as a BLM should I be using single spells like Fire and Thundercloud against the swarms of Razor plumes? Or should I A.O.E like crazy? I was told not to A.O.E. when the Spiney Plume to make sure I didnt kill it but we dont kill the Razor Plumes fast enough. :(
I've been too scared to try this fight again after wiping a group like 4 times, i90 war, I can get to the tornado phase fine, but juggling aggro with the spiny, it just scares me too much, also by scared I mean the fear of letting everyone down and getting ripped into.
Thanks for this.. My group had all of this down the only thing I didn't know about was spine plume exploding.. Every time I mentioned the stacks my party was just like it's just a resistance debuff.. Moral of the story.. Listen to your healer lol
Good video sir.
My Brynhildr people better be watching this -_-
Lol thats how I feel
Brynhildr is the only server worth being on!
has anyone else had trouble where people didn't reaceive the thermal high buff even though they were in the shield in time?
Does there drop a ring for tanks too?
this guide helped me soooo much! TY happy
Thanks for the guide and help!
So, I'm curious. I hear Happy's favourite class isn't bard, despite him using it for his guides a lot. What's his favourite, then? Also, did he fantasia his falafel into an elezen at some point? Or does he simply have several bard characters? I just.. I'm curious.
I've had minstral streak cast from north, east, then east again
You've got a new subscriber Mr.Happy! :) As OT, I was clueless about this fight. Provoke is so important for a tank; shame i didn't even consider it until this one kicked my ass.
I'm not sure if you mention to not use Flare
Did they ever fix all the massive issues with latency? Because I can't see how anyone can win more of these dodge mechanic fights when Titan and coil was already impossible for a large chunk of players due to the horrible latency in the game.
Any Tips for healers ? for this one?
pretty simple just follow the mechanics, we have it easy
LoganBladeTv if you say so...
what is ur bow ?
Elfin Bow, from beating all 3 EX Primals
Mrhappy1227
now that's epic bow tho :o
Mrhappy1227 It's better than Relic +1 (or Zenith now)?
MTTGamerX Only if you have the Allagan Pants to make up for the loss of Accuracy. Allagan Bow still Best in Slot.
what is considered to over geared for this fight? Say an I80 mnk?
すごくわかりやすくていいですねー
Succor is pronounced like "sucker" man. Great vid though. :)
Why you're saying they're names and not they're beams colors?
The beam colors on Extreme are consistent every attempt both Chirada and Suparna both have the same functionality every fight.
Mrhappy1227 Oh, well that's a relief, thank you.
JingRoku Fromy understanding suprana will actually switch positions with garuda if you pull her to ot and do not dps her first.
Lieoney Yeah she switches positions even if you leave her next to Garuda. They just jump up and do Feather Rain once in the phase regardless, and also switch.
During twister phase if you have chirada in place of suprana instead it's a pain. My FC found out it is better to take down suprana first. Due to wicked wheel no longer casting once suprana is downed instead of taking down chirada first. Still tank the same mt/ot.
Once when I was a kid, I waited outside in the woods standing perfectly still for over twelve hours with some bird seed on my shoulder, and when a bird finally came I punched it right in the face.
Sounds like my strategy for Slender, wait 12 hours until the sun comes up.
why would anyone want to tank in this fight on ps3? that would be nuts.
Mr Happy what is your FC name ? ? im looking for a good FC that do raids and primal and stuff =)
Im scared! Lol Im a healer and i reallly dont want to let anyone down.
Fight looks awesome!
you the best happy
I keep getting to juuust before the second Reckoning... Gonna throw my corpse at it some more tomorrow
He kept accidentally saying, "Dumps in the air."
Who's that scrubby bard? >.>
I think I can heal better than that white mage!
what happens if mt has to provoke spiny off of ot? I don't think walking through tornadoes with garuda and suparna on his ass would be a good idea....
oh and btw your warrior in the video is too overgeared for the fight so simply he's not just a tank and he can take the damage from tornadoes...
You can calmly go from the far end to one of the closer ends without running directly through, and that gets you in Provoke Range :) Provoke has a range of about a Tornado. Also, if your group has lethargy, putting it on the Spiny will cause the stacks to apply slower :)
Can't beat this shit for the life of me. The OT always fucks up with suprana. The healers sometimes never use holy. A noob kills spiny. A noob doesn't kill spine plume. Someone gets wheeled. Someone forget there's a tornado all over the place. and the worst...someone forgets to hide behind the fucking pillar at the beginning of the fight!!!! It's an endless barrage of badluck and angering bullshit i'm having.
Going into Garuda EX for the first time in a few minutes. Wish my SCH luck lol
Easy enough just need to get ppl that can handle the mechanics.
Just watched this to prepare myself for the Garuda EX as I didn't do too well in HM, wish me the best and maybe I'll record to share. One quick question, what are your hotbar settings? I too play a BRD and was wondering on what you use etc etc.
I just want to say that the way this fight is being done requires no mistakes from the MT and gets screwed up if Spiny lands on anyone other than the OT initially
A much easier method is to have the dps face tank Chirada, MT take Garuda/ and then Suparna on switch, and the OT take Suparna/ and then Garuda
No more double wicked wheels, no more cd timing, and no more "provoke cd nonsense"
May want to add that ALL of the DPS/healers need to facetank it to split the Downburst :) For those wondering this is the JP method, which most NA players refer to as the Triangle Method, since it splits up all three mobs.
What the hell are stacks and why is this fight the first time Iv heared people saying something like "I got 2 stacks" :/
This seems impossible with random groups
Cleared it 3 times today with the duty finder! It's tough! So much fun though!
Kill suparna only would down garuda faster
As long as party members hp is above 4k.
bring the cat back!
easiest EX in FFXIV so far x_x
this vid is 4times to long
the repeat of video helps so much more tho
soooo many things to remember.....good gods x__x