Freddie Mercury true, but.... There's no time for us There's no place for us What is this thing that builds our dreams Yet slips away from us? Who wants to live forever? Who wants to live forever? There's no chance for us It's all decided for us This world has only one Sweet moment set aside for us
I know,right? But the knowledge that is can twist any description enouch it can fit to almost anybody brings your ego down really quick. I once watched one of those videos about ADHD and the comment section was full of poeple self-diagnosing themselves. It makes you think of that one time you acted like that or even create a fake memory or exagorate some memory or something like that. Think of this like abou a.....physic. He/she starts with something that applies to almost anybody and that makes you tell everything to her and repeat it slightly differently.Or like a test. You just fill the correct answer. Or like a story on wattpad. (Y/N) means your name. (Y/N) is a human. See? Not that hard. Even better example is one youtube video. USSR anthem misheard. It shows show images and text of what that anthem sounds like and plays it. If you look at it and listen to it,you actually hear it. You know they're not the actual lyrics,but it's similiar and your brain just adjust it a little bit. It's just amazing.
I view INTPs less as lazy and more as interested in moving onto the next exploration than dotting the i's on things they feel they've already gotten the value out of. Also avoiding heavy burdens of obligation which might interfere with leaving space to explore ideas. If an INTP thinks an area is worth his or her attention, they're usually very hard working.
I can do stuff, in that I have the *intellectual capacity* and *physical ability* to, but idiots like Deborah Bernhardt who ARE *genuinely* lazy (at the inexcusable expense of others) keep taking my *resources* to be *productive* with leaving me homeless, broke and unemployed at the age of 30! I think it's unfair that INTP's have a bad reputation for being lazy. I don't think it's really got anything to do with being INTP, I think it's just an *individual* thing- chances are you'll find any number of incredibly lazy people in ALL 16 MBTI types. I'd like to note that there's a certain negative *implication* carried by the word "lazy" that might not reflect *reality* . Just because someone lies or sits around all day not exerting much physical energy, might mean they're "lazy" but doesn't mean it's a *problem* or that they're somehow "bad" people, or that they *should* be doing *more* with their lives etc. It's at the point where one sits or lies around all day, and then come dinner time, they get up and demand that their parents, spouse, partner, friends, family etc (anyone else) has to make them dinner, THAT'S when it's a *problem* . One can be "lazy" but still be very *responsible* for their own lives and not [inexcusably] *burden* anyone, on the other hand, someone could be *constantly* "on the go" DOING lots of things, but that doesn't mean they're *responsible* and can take care of themselves _without_ burdening others!
@The Zohan I could never get into (playing) music, despite several attempts at several different instruments. I could never stick with it long enough to get good enough to actually play a song and enjoy the experience. Also, I'm WAY too rigid. I could never relax enough to be comfortable while practicing.
Yeah, like when people say "Trump's bad and ugly and he hates gay people". I might even agree with that statement myself if it were presented as an actual argument, rather than just a default response to anything Trump-related, because that's what the media pushes you to believe. I just can't stand people who don't go into any depth or provide detail/reasoning. No topic is as simple as people make it out to be.
Brooo yes...i had a heated argument about why blm protests is a very important movement with an alm supporter...he was obnoxious but he was definitely giving good decent facts to his argument to the point he was convincing me...however when I gave my points he was yelling and wouldn't take it into account even though I gave sources to studies that support me...and that's when the conversation ended
I truly believe we fellow INTP's are misunderstood and underappreciated in our society. We don't engage in meaningless chit chat in order to climb the hierarchy in the workplace, so our talents are often times ignored. We will offer unique and logical solutions to problems that will often times be shut down by other types with enormous egos and inferior critical thinking capabilities.
I agree! We just tend to be on the quieter side and usually aren’t very outspoken, so I guess INTP’s are easily overlooked... I spend a bit too much time in my own head so I’ve been trying to engage more with the outside world to showcase what I have.
Indeed, I felt this my whole life, nobody understands me because I don't feel emotions as many do, I think logically and I give from the heart advices I don't tell them everything will be OK, no I tell them the possible paths and analyse what is happening and give them a possible way out. Now for me I don't know what's better, to lie to make someone feel better or the hard truth of getting them out of the situation
I get called out sometimes at work for not eating my lunch with others and not"networking." Oh well, if people can't appreciate me for what I do and not how I socialize than I'm not going to waste my time trying to prove my worthiness to them. I really don't care about them on a personal level anyway. I don't think we're the weird ones, I think everyone else is strange.
Wow. This is so me. Does it bother anyone else to be seen as quiet at first? I hate that. It takes forever for ppl to know who i really am. It always makes it awkward in new situations. I'm not quiet or shy i just have nothing to say until i know you.
Jeremy Smith I think it's an INTP thing. We are quiet until we get to know the other. We don't want useless and fruitless conversations. I am quiet by myself but I will be the loudest amongst my friends
this is exactly how i feel. I am shy already but, "i have nothing to say until I know you" is the perfect way to describe meeting someone new in my experience
@@pocket-slime yeah i also feel like it's inappropriate to ask someone i don't know personal questions. So i suck at getting to know people. I feel like everything is about rltnshps so if i don't have one w you then It's basically inappropriate to say anything.
deadlines must come from other people. If you dictate your own deadline, you will only file perpetual extensions and be more than willing to approve such request.
I wouldn’t say longer deadlines so much as better paced deadlines, if it’s a long deadline I’ll just save it for later when it’s more prevalent and do other things now. Though I think deadlines are annoying all around, I wouldn’t mind it if they just gave us a list of things to get done by the end of the year but only if they never bother me during the year about my progress.
I think we fellow INTP's are actually pretty well liked. We don't engage in hostile ego battles and generally keep to ourselves. We also have a unique sense of humor and value cooperation.
That's exactly why people don't like INTPs. Because believing yourself to be rational and that it should be a guideline is in itself not rational at all from a realistic perspective.
I only dislike rules if they are irrational or cause more harm than good. I do not have a problem with rules in general. I have found that many rules serve a good purpose to solve a problem. The trouble is when the purpose for the rule is misjudged or abused. I dispise corruption. Systems that are excessively corrupt need to be removed or replaced.
Kathleen 168 I love rules but if they make no sense or there are process in place that make the job longer and make no sense I wanna go crazy and shout
Are there any INTPs who like to study trends and how things change over time? Like studying the evolution of music, or language, or fashion, or whatever? That always intrigues me
Yes, societal trends, political trends, architecture trends, etc. Helps to have a wide and expansive understanding of history in order to further see modern trends and modern society in a different perspective. Helps to gain insight on things, as well as understanding the very cyclical nature of society and history in general. And then theres the desire to mix things, take old trends of music, architecture, fashion, and see how they would fair or look integrated in modern or future society
love fragrances! even collect them..basically we would like to know bout the whos hows whys whens wheres of everything! lol well depends though..we might start about smtg..then 5 mins later were already on a different matter lol
Yes all the way! I'm always diving into the rabbit hole on how things are connected. The evolution of comedy was the last thing I was checking out. I didn't realize how influential Laurel and Hardy was to the later slap stick stuff and Lenny Bruce's setting the foundations for stand up comedy of today. Stuff like this.
Sometimes, I feel like I'm not an intp cuz they're portrayed as super geniuses. I am not a genius but I would prefer logic over all and even if I am an intelligent individual, I'm too insecure to consider that fact. But this makes me feel like an intp again .
Someone told me self-doubt and second guessing is a common INTP thing and it makes sense because theres always some piece of the puzzle missing so you can never be fully certain. Its kinda relieving to consider it in this sense, that its a normal thing for ones type
INTPs are intellectually oriented but that doesn't mean we're all super smart. An MBTI personality type isn't an IQ score. Pretty sure I'm in the average range, maybe just slightly above average.
Me too. I failed many classes because i thought there were not important. I tend to put so much pressure to my self when it comes to big task at work, id want it to be perfect. But when i failed, i disgust myself while at the same time thinking that my boss are all dumb as fuck.
That is something that is needed to overcome. If good-looking people can admit they are good-looking (which they should...logically), you have to come to terms that you are intelligent (logically). But don't stop there, develop wisdom. Be wise on being confident that what you know at the moment is significant but always be welcoming of better ideas. Admitting that you don't know everything is a good start, but also be confident that better ideas can be acquired.
Amy INTPs having a blast right now? because so much time to think due to corona virus...plus we are basically experts at this quarantine thing, we have been practicing all along 😂
Maybe try looking for a job where you can work less than 5 days/week and still live comfortably. I literally work half the year (3-on/4-off then 4-on/3-off, rotating) and my mental well-being has never been better!
This feels about right. It's a bit on the flattering side though. You failed to mention our issues with "lying" or throwing out ideas we know are false or debunked to see how people respond and stuff like that. Fun fact, we're also one of the lowest earning personality types because we value time more than money on the whole.
@@kathleen1685 I put lying in quotes for a reason. I mean testing flawed ideas more than anything. I'll give the same argument that's already been debunked to 3 or 4 people to see how they respond to it or how they overcome it. I don't just lie to people, and it's never facts it's logic that I know is flawed.
It’s fun to throw out a misleading theory and see how people react. But I am not so sure about the lowest earning, at least for instance IT industry that I am currently in, with high payment and quite easy to manage for INTP
The most relatable thing is at the end. Other people frustrate me when they can’t make simple decisions. I wish people would use logic over emotion. Like they said... so much conflict could be avoided....
People annoyed me so much when they approach me for love or relationship advises like when their boyfriends/girlfriends cheat with them or any other problems then ask me what they should do with the situation. I give advises then they'll end up saying "but I love him/her" card. It's so annoying.
I’ve been told that it’s strange that I’m an INTP considering how artistic I am as I’m an artist, writer, theatre kid, book worm, etc. I have too many interests. I’m also more of a history and English person, although I do enjoy a few sub categories of science such as biology or astronomy. I’m not bad a math, if anything I’m really good at it, I just don’t particularly enjoy it. Not all INTPs have to be STEM people. They can be creative. For instance, Ellen Page is an INTP and she’s an actress. Although Einstein is a scientist, he was also very skilled in music, specifically the violin. I would disagree with the idea that INTPs are not artistic bc that’s far from the truth. If anything, we admire the arts since we admire and question abstract ideas.
I hate the fact that logic is always associated with STEM subjects. You can apply logic creatively or even, with a little work emotionally. You just need to have a mind that is ready to think, analyse and come to a conclusion on a given topic by certain rules you have set not through any emotions
Agreed. I get what you mean about math. I’m ok with it, but I don’t like doing the calculation part - I’m more interested in what the calculations tell us. And thinking about what you said about history, honestly, the world is a system of systems. Systems don’t have to all be "STEM". History is a set of systems too - socioeconomic, cultural, technological, geopolitical, social psychological, geophysical, biological, etc. systems that lead to events in history. It gets really fun when you look for the cross points between systems. For example, biophilic architectural design can lead to better recovery outcomes in hospital patients - why? Is it because the introduction of plants and full spectrum light alters the microbiome and consequently the neurotransmitters and immune system? Could biophilic design be introduced to inner cities, making a more pleasing environment, which has been shown to make alterations in the DNA of the residents through better DNA methylation and demethylation. Or, (fact) famed art nouveau designer William Morris used a lot of green in his designs (like his wallpaper) because he had an arsenic mine, and arsenic was used to make green pigment. This meant that the wealthy who could afford his wallpapers became gravely ill, many died, and they never knew why. How did that impact them socioeconomically. Sorry - stream of consciousness. I’ve thought about writing a story in which every Meyers Briggs type is represented in a character - thereby giving expression to the interactions between types. I’m an INTP, so naturally, I never got around to doing it. I’ve moved on to other topics (like you, biology, astronomy, and now physics a little). Wouldn’t that be fun, though, for theater? If you have more motivation to be creative than me, and if you like that idea, and you do that, reply to this message and I’ll come see it.
I'm going to do this next time I write an unusually descriptive and detailed book with a slight yellow tint on it's paper making a replication of the sand laying near the beach on a hot summer day. I'm joking, this was both good and horrible at the same time. I laughed at it though.
Fellow INTP here. Sometimes my brain hurts from analyzing TOO MUCH. I rarely speak out but my brain just won't stop thinking. Im also lazy af. Maybe because all of our energy are used for the brain so we're physically 'tired' most of the time.
You know what really sucks? If you think about things for hours and feel more clueless afterwards than before. Also INTPs are often poor and low status, work at walmart and tend to have borderline political views. Additionally we're the most clumsy and incompetent in social settings, have few to none friends or sexual contact and spend our time on the internet. This is where we find (besides certain hell holes that drag us in) a test that tells us we belong to a class of geniuses.
You’re not lazy. You just need a more challenging job that uses your skills. I find the imposed structure helps for some set hours per day. And then the rest of the day can be dedicated to meandering learning.
I made my whole "judgy" family uncomfortable because I was always questioning silly rules. I tried to argue once as a young that having pizza on Sunday night after church once in a while wasn't going to hurt. But they kept insisting that eating pizza that late would cause them all to gain a bunch of weight. I tried that wouldn't be possible if it didn't become a habit. I didn't win that argument, I was so bummed out =( But seriously, I was quite bored with my overly serious, rule obsessed family so I broke them stupid rules any chance I got. Plus I felt a tad controlled and I wasn't having that. I didn't see the logic in sticking to rules that were unnecessary and needlessly restrictive to creativity and problem solving.
Judgementalness is basically the essence of being able to identify trouble and steer it away quickly in present time. It is almost always paired with short-sightedness and logical fallacies. It gets worse, if a bunch of judgemental people share a same belief, they'll gang up on you and try to apply group pressure to make you yield. It is a very nasty tactic that happens almost everywhere (70% of the world are feeler types, 40% of that are sensing feeling). The trick is not to fight against it, its to learn how to manipulate it. I get that it goes against your morals, but those morals will without a doubt never be in your favor unless you'll become a reclusive. My advice: Learn how to speak their language. Make them think whatever they need to keep their idea of danger in you to an absolute minimum. And then do everything you were set out to do anyway. Its easy to explain, if they ever figure it out, you can play the emotional game in how their unrelenting and unfair rule abiding behaviour had pushed you to that point and the only way you saw fit was to do as you have done. In short: Not even your judgemental family wants to be honest with you. Its because they don't understand the value in it. You can fight against it, or you can have them think it goes their way. Your choice.
Same with the seemingly silly or unreasonable rules... But instead of breaking them I try to understand why they exist and attempt to rationalize from there. =D
@@mariejean8016 Even if you can rationalise the existance of like rules, doesn't mean they're fair towards you or more people. This happens around traditions, which are quite often based on situational relevance (and thus not beneficial to you in another situation), a lot. Would you accept a rule that you can perceive to damage you or the environment? I wouldn't. I would work around it, make them think the rule is abided but in reality you deviate cleverly to prevent damage.
I was horrible at school and did that too. I just guessed whatever was on the test because I wanted to get out of there as soon as possible, but then the teacher had this rule that's "Don't answer the next question unless everyone is done" which made me a bit irritated because I thought it was pointless. I think they were trying to teach cooperation or something and I probably hated it because I sucked at it. I don't go to school now.
You can see the perfect example of INTPs portrayed by the comment section xD I’m an ENFJ and I’ve always admired INTPs, it’s amazing how their minds work.
That's nice to say, but you should try being one. The internal monologue NEVER stops. When I don't have anything with which to occupy my mind, it tends to drift in ways that are irritating/annoying, like a friend that isn't comfortable with periods of silence so they fill the void with mundane chit chat. All of this goes on subconsciously. I will repeatedly ask myself what day of the week it is over and over, or I get hung up on spelling certain words, specifically ones that are pronounced similar to how they are spelled. "Definitely" is a word that I have caught myself spelling over and over again. Only now do I realize that I have been spelling it wrong in my head all these years (i-n-i, not i-n-a). I will also frequently run through the days of the week from outside in (Monday, Friday, Tuesday, Thursday, Wednesday), omitting the weekends for some reason. I used to drive over an hour two and from work each day, so one week I taught myself to recite the alphabet backwards just so I wouldn't drive myself nut.
@Varna Iswara Lorganden Just personal experience and a bit of reading. I actually came across "INTP" before I knew anything about MBTI. I have always struggled with finishing tasks, so I Googled the phrase "Why can't I finish projects" and one of the first articles that popped up was about being an INTP. I read through the description and was able to instantly relate with about 95% of it. When I finally got around to actually taking a test I tested as INTJ. I retook the test, changing only one answer, and I came back INTP. The question I changed was "Do you like to make lists?"; which, upon reflection, I really don't like list making, particularly when compared to a friend of mine who lives his entire life off of lists.
@Amber Morrison. lol indeed, good data though, data that can lead to better understanding, new insights, different perspectives about oneself and others, and ones relation to society etc... its like the more you know the more you can refine your own understanding of MBTI, your type, and how it all relates to you and others in society
I think it's kinda crazy how for a small bunch that often feels different,many of us who have been typed as INTPs are on here accepting that. It's like an above average society,intelligent individuals with a nice worldview allowing themselves to be defined by someone's(Myers Briggs) perspective on who they are. I don't deny the fact that I've related to many of the things that have been said about INTPs and I found it really nice to be so understood & see many others similar to me in the comments section but I still don't wanna be boxed in by this classification. I can't help but feel like the more I research about this personality type,the more I strip myself off of a bit of authenticity because then there begins to be a certain biasness in my approach on things that I hadn't yet experienced but were said to be a part of the INTP personality type. Anyway,I should be studying for my upcoming practical exams that will determine whether I go do my 4th year in medicine or not but here I am,because I want to understand myself better.
If you're an INTP, then you probably agree that knowing words and labels is good because it allows for classification and communication. But it never means they should stick. Reading about types while accepting or thinking yourself to be a certain type will without a doubt cause confirmation bias. I'm sure you'd try to be critical, but unless you spend years trying to understand individual functions described in Jung's research (or a couple of weeks intensively!), you won't be able to type yourself properly. I strongly suggest C.S. Joseph's channel if you're interested in personality types. That being said. Myers Briggs Type Idenfication tests, they are not good with nuances and not at all with cross-personality interaction steered growth. Meaning, the whole MBTI neglects the continuous influence of your environment. I wrote it under this video somewhere else too, but if you find fitting properties but yet it does not quite fit, you might still be an INFP with nurtured Ti from environment. In the latter case, you will not have any trouble producing any thoughts that fit the INTP stereotype. Everyone has access to any type of thinking pattern, but litterally chooses not to for many varying reasons.
@@TheTigero At the very least, we can say that looking inwards is more of an introverted function than extroverted. Wanting to understand the world is probably mainly thinking with intuitiveness. There are various types that are capable of producing thinking with intuitiveness. The only differences between the type INTP and those others (e.g. INFP) is the frequency at which those thought patterns are accessed. As suggested in Jung's research, we're inclined to use other functions if we are in states of stress and inability. As such, even dramatically different personalities may produce INTP behaviour as long as the stress or inability persists. Now granted, the original poster does not sound to be in distress, so I do think its more safe to assume that the original poster's personality is either INTP or INFP. This is however a single moment in time, and does not guarantee a persistence in behaviour.. in other words, you can't know unless you observe yourself (or have someone else observe you) for extended periods of time.
@M SC thank you for your insight.I fit the standard definition of an assertive INTP by the way. I think the problem with typing accurately is assuming certain behaviors are only unique to a particular personality type,as opposed to acknowledging that certain personality types exhibit those behaviors more strongly in comparison to the others.I've observed a lot of people on the net say they fall between (insert two different personality types) and I don't know why they do that;can you not be an INTP that can impressively navigate their way through an emotionally charged situation?If you can,then does that mean you fall between INTP & INFP?I think not,I think it just makes you an INTP that has matured enough to be able to develop some of the traits that are typically seen to be weak or inferior about your personality type. Oh and,update...I'm doing my 4th year now : )
I feel like these comment sections are one of the best hubs for INTP's to mingle. Going through the comments, the replies are like 80% INTPs who agree, 10% INTPs who've learned to succeed offering advice, and 10% other MBTI... honestly i only looked through one comment, but i bet i'm still somewhat accurate
@@jugulawang8696 Good to meet you too! Funny, when I was a teenager and first took the test I was an INFP. Don't if that was because I didn't know myself as well back then or if I have genuinely changed into being an INTP.
Same, maybe you should look into cognitive functions? INFP have very strong Fi which makes them very certain of their emotions and values, they also make decisions based on feelings and emotion. I sometimes do not understand why I am having certain emotions so I think I am INTP.
lets see, infps use Fi, intps Ti primarily. so.. theyre pretty different tbh. If intps use Fe, and infps Fi then by how you talk about feelings and people it should be quite clear. If you talk about people generalizing, like everyone, we all, etc then its Fe, example: Humanity should do this; everyone thinks that,.. If its more of an I think that, I feel that, I see or believe etc. Youre an INFP. example: I think that this isnt that way, etc. hopefuly its understandable..
And how are You FEELING about that ?:P... - Do not try to answer that question unless you are INFP!:D - ... The true INTP is still keep thinking how this test is build and how is relieble and...and... altrough it is in the end completly unessential:P ... But seriously, INTP dont give a fuck about unknown people in yt, so they dont have naked chest in pictures beside:D You are INFP ! blemeyourselfforbeingdifferentfromuslol
Anybody wanna be in an INTP group chat? Since we all have issues with being in our heads too often and not being more outspoken I feel this could be a good way to shake loose of some of our more introverted ways. Just a thought.
If other personality types have as much trouble with logic as I do emotional intelligence no wonder some of the stupid stuff humans are tricked into believing. I do think critical thinking skills is needed more in schools I know we have not reached a satisfactory average countrywide in the US.
@@Clothadin Well, "all that matters" if you're just trying to make money I suppose. Even with that goal in mind, you've left out extroversion, which could partially be equated with the aforementioned "emotional intelligence". If you think the ability to get along with people in your life (without them hating you, or you hating them) is some kind of overrated, useless expense of your energy, you shouldn't expect to get very far at all my dude. Good luck.
@@Clothadin Emotional intelligence does matter considering more than half of our population is emotionally oriented. You can excel greatly in the professional world if you can stroke your superiors ego for example. Critical thinking is not taught in public schools because our overlords want malleable individuals just capable enough to run the machines but not capable enough to ask the crucial questions as George Carlin put it.
Cahzinar X, One of the frustrating things about being an INTP is trying to explain to irrational people that illogical arguments aren’t debatable. Another is trying to get anyone to directly address really good arguments that refute some half-baked idea or unsupported opinion.
Intp's have to get in touch with their feelings but that's hard because a lot of us get so caught up in thought loops that an emotional state seems so distant and unreachable. I found that the best way to get in touch with your emotions is by spending time and acknowledging how you feel. Don't explain why u feel what you feel, what's causing it or trying to justify it just try and match your feelings with their names (sad happy anxious mad annoyed empty lonely etc) and repeat their names as long as they're there and when the emotions change name the new emotions. Once you do this more and more and you get good at identifying what your emotions are then stop thinking at certain times throughout the day and feel and acknowledge the emotion that arises. I believe whatever emotions arose when we stop thinking are the emotions that drive us. After that it's good to start describing what those emotions are. This is good if you're emotions are to deep for you to look at. It helped me to slow things down a bit just so I could see get grounded a little bit. I did it after I learned a CBT trick where you just point and name things in your surroundings. All it's basically doing is switching your cognitive Mose and giving you a little distance to start so you have a wiser view of the problem.
I think I get it now, the conflict avoidance thing is because conflicts prevent progress, and prevents "the things" from falling into place, the temporary resistance to change. Avoidance seems like the wrong word, more like conflict prevention?
But I also think that sometimes thinkers can rationalize about something that just IS a feeling. Confrontations are hard emotionally. Especially when you aren't use to accepting emotion. From a fellow (female) intp
...But militarize the rules that help me to do what I want... oh f*, will I become a Karen?... No, because the rules says I am allways right, and a Karen must defy logic
INTP here. That last part: I do not think people should follow our lines of thinking and that it will "solve all problems", a lot of this is pretty stereotypical and black and white. For example with the government work we all obviously know that it's much more complicated than what our answers appear to be. INTPs are notoriously misunderstood and I see it here as well.
Indeed. And what's with the robotic thinking. I can't be 100% sure that I am an intp - but eventhough my thinking process is logical it is also inspired and very associative. Creative, if you will.
I’m an intp and I hate math. I hate subjects that have too many rules or formulas. I like writing, English, technology, and art. I find books boring too as I’d rather just surf the web.
I had an honour to be INTP's close friend and I loved her brutal honesty and sarcastic sense of humor. Very authentic person just like myself and a great listener but way too emotionally closed and distant. Sometimes It would feel like you don't know her at all. (I'm INFP)
Just wondering if I’m the only INTP that is basically obsessed with outer space and aliens and feel like I’d rather be out there than here on earth. I wonder if spacey related interests are common for INTP or just me
INTP also obssesed with space here, its probably common, loved space, space travel and scifi since I can remember. The immensity and vastness of space, the scale of worlds, suns and galaxies, the complexity and vastness of it all and our place within it. But also how its all governed by the same rules, and principles no matter if we're here in our solar system or 50 million light years away, how the cosmos is simultaneously ordered yet chaotic, and of course thinking of what the universe would be like under different rulesets, like I personally hate the Roche limit, its a very lame restriction on the beauty of the cosmos, thankfully it doesnt have to be a concern in scifi and fantasy and planets can be much closer there Also the idea of us being all alone in the universe, or the universe teeming with intelligent life and aliens, both fascinate me for different reasons, which one is the truth I wonder
I have a sarcastic humor and love word playing jokes. Also love languages and learning about different cultures. Hate math though, in general we’re logical people but Im a person of faith as well. Solitude has its beauty as we see things others miss. Love being an INTP never a dull day
Half intp and half infp, it's honestly confusing sometimes. When there's a conflict between 2 people, i can think logically about the source of that problem and how to solve it logically, but then i am able to relate emotionally to those 2 people and how they can solve the problem through emotions. I ended up being a confused mediator.
I was going to say the same thing the other commenter wrote. Lol. The world is a system of systems. Not all systems are STEM, and even non-STEM systems are integrated together and with STEM systems. Psychological, social psychological systems are tied into tons of other kinds of systems - biological, socioeconomic, transportation, geopolitical, etc.
When your teacher teach math and you think the next level, you think how could it possibly like that, where is it come from, what is it for. Then you miss the teacher explanation.
My last boyfriend was an INFJ. (We were at incompatible life stages, but we stayed friends. I appreciate his structure, creativity, organization, follow through and well-meaningness).
This is really me. Specially the learning alone part, I hate schools so much. I just wanna learn what I want like an open world game. And if I don't understand something go backwards or switch to another book or something about it I have 0 creativity tho I also need rules to not go paranoid
I missed the boat in school, as the internet was in its infancy... But with the resources we have today like TH-cam, INTPs could easily be set loose to learn what interests them, and learn much more than in a traditional school setting. Also, feel you on the creativity thing... Were creative in a different way - the way we view problems and solve them is often incredibly creative, but I for one struggle more so artistically.
Took several online tests and got INTP as a result on all of them. Pretty accurate. Can sum it up with my 5th grade report card: does not work at potential. Detention for messy desk. Nothings changed LOL
I usually score INFP (occasionally INTP) on these tests, but I relate far more to INTPs in every way and I don't really understand the emotion INFPs have. I love learning new things and I don't really account for others' feelings that much. I shouldn't let a test determine how I live my life anyways though. I'll just be the INFP that poses as an INTP lulz
The part about desiring harmony in society and relationships was a relief to hear. I've always wondered if maybe I'm secretly an INFP, even though I always test as an INTP, because that seems so "feely" to me.
yeah, I (according to the tests I've taken) am an INTP and I also have ADD. A lot of the more intricate "symptoms" of ADD overlap with the descriptions of INTP
I did a test many years ago and figured I was an ISTP, but although technically inclined I've struggled with the rigidity of such tasks and always felt a need for deeper meaning and soulfulness. Only now I realise that I'm much more likely a INTP and this makes a lot more sense to me. Feels like coming out of a closet 😅😅😅
@@nique27cool =P was jk and i never really liked that sticks and stones saying i thought it was inaccurate its more like stick and stones may break my bones but names will make me kill myself not me personally but to correct the saying in general ....and that got dark quickly
I’ve always had trouble with teachers about meeting deadlines for things I already understand and simply see doing assignments for them pointless because I’ve already learnt what I needed to.
INTJ passing through. INTP's prefer to be in the background, so if you need an INTJ with plans for world domination to join, hit me up. I'm right-wing, but apparently that doesn't matter to INTP's as long as they get to be involved? INTP: I'm joining the rebellion! INTJ: What are you rebelling against? INTP: Doesn't matter!
Kakto Tak As an INTP myself, I think we are rather inclined to hold libertarian values either way. As this video pointed to, I think a lot of us tend to dislike overcomplicated or unnecessary authoritative involvement, which could be attached to either side of the political aisle.
"overcomplicated or unnecessary authoritative" All of these qualifiers are subjective. And since you most likely aren't familiar with the reasons why government structures work the way they do, and therefore can't really make a justified positive claim of the kind you made in your comment, it means that your attitude towards any kind of "involvement" like that is more of an instance of your general attitude towards government. It doesn't look like you are a small government conservative, which means you are a plain libertarian. And libertarianism is leftist (crossover at best). It is leftist in its goal (destroy order), in its assumptions (e.g., conflicts don't exist, only confrontations), and values (unrestrained control by an individual at all costs).
Kakto Tak At least to me, the goal of libertarianism is not to “destroy order.” I’m a firm believer in the social contract (I do think that, generally, government is indeed necessary). If I wanted to get rid of all of it, including that, it would just be anarchy. The point is to get the government out of things it doesn’t need to be involved in (hence why I say “unnecessary”). Furthermore, of course what one does and doesn’t find necessary is completely subjective, but as INTPs tend to look for an objective way without a lot of “subjective” overcomplicated exceptions, I think we’re inclined to prefer a less restrictive set of fundamental laws, which is something I find represented by libertarianism. Eg. “Don’t encroach on the liberties and property of other people.”
So you think a fair and stable social order, with rights, liberties, NAP, etc, can be sustained primarily (if not exclusively) through informal social contract, with little to no governmental authority involved?
What jobs do INTP's do? I'm 34 and have been a support worker for 10 years, before then was in the Navy (Which I left early due to depression at the time). I'm not that fond of the support work I do now but I work flexible hours and the people who I support are actually relatively independent so the job is very easy, but I feel I need to move on because of the bad pay and I'm not feeling content. My hobbies are reading non fiction books on a wide range of subjects (Whatever interests me at the time), I go running (to loose weight. I took it up 5 months ago), I play Poker (I make a profit throughout the course of a year, but not enough to make a living, due to low end bank roll atm), I play chess, I watch movies and TH-cam videos and I go out for a few beers maybe 3 times a month with a couple of close friends. So yeah, that's me..... Any Ideas what I can do? I'm thinking about learning Accountancy, but I'm not sure it suits my personality, another thing I've thought about is Forensic Science. I've starting to teach myslef computer coding to see if I can get into that, but after only a couple of days I'm already getting frustrated with it, whenever I get "errors" etc, not really enjoying it. pffffff. Any help or ideas would be great. Thanks
Well we're all INTPs here and therefor also have the same problem as far as jobs and not knowing what to do with ourselves, so maybe we aren't the best ones to ask but... Myself? I'm an exotic dancer (aka yes a stripper). Might seem like a weird thing for an INTP but It pays the bills, I make my own schedule, am my own boss and don't have to work that often (11 or 12 nights per month at most). I don't particularly like it but don't hate it as much as working some regular 5 day/week 9 to 5 job. My only suggestion is to try and find something that will allow you to work from home or work fairly independently and offer a flexible schedule. That's what I'm working towards - Art and graphic design. Some writing too. The coding would be cool but not sure if I'd have the patience for it either. It seems like everything interests us but nothing holds us 😒 When I encounter anything that ends up having a lot of mundane intricacies, I get bored and lose interest.
I worked in steel machining for 14 years, now i weld furniture. They're good jobs, i work alone and have control over my work space, my creative input is valued. My free time hobbies go all over the place. From art to tech and anything that interests me enough. Lot's of fun but it's also a curse, i guess it's worth it.
The key things to learn and accept as an INTP is that the emotional states of the people around you are a part of the larger constructed framework of the social ‘systems’ that govern your life. The even harder thing to learn is how to recognize and healthily digest those emotional states within yourself. The imaginative over-analysis we are prone to spend mental effort on can be detrimental if the focus and outcome is towards correcting your own flaws, but through a lens of punishment and negativity. You can’t change yourself and your habits overnight, but if you learn to accept your own inconsistencies and imperfections in the context of patience and positive reinforcement of good habits, you’ll find it much easier to change. It also becomes easier to extend the same type of acceptance and grace to those around you, which ultimately helps create and sustain much healthier, more complete relationships with others. In other words, we may be the best equipped people to find happiness in ourselves and others, because we tend to think deeply and abstractly and apply our ideas to our emotional selves. But we can also be the worst at it, sustaining ‘darkness’ within ourselves over what we perceive to ‘work’ for us within a shallow, albeit logical, cultivated cage of self-doubt and self-loathing.
I remember sitting on my bed looking at the moon and then I had the sudden urge to try to make a mental image of where the sun is located based on which side the moon was illuminated on, the time of day and the position of the moon. Then just going to my computer to google maps and trying to see if my guess was correct. Then just going to Chat-GPT learning about the moon phases. Its honestly pretty fulfilling and interesting. My favourite thing to do when I have nothing else to entertain myself with is just trying to mentally practise spatial awareness and visualization from different angles, just imagining how things would look like from someone elses perspective, my face, body, the view from behind me. Or if I was looking in the room from the corner. Sometimes trying out abstract angles, maybe a top down view and layering it. For example How the roof would look, since now the view would be 2D and there wouldn't really be noticeable depth, then mentally getting rid of the roof and trying to look inside the building itself from such an angle, in this position you would be able to see things inside different rooms when normally you wouldn't because there would be a wall separating you. It would look like a schematic that architects use when designing rooms, but instead it would be colored and more lively. I would progressively add more details the longer I try to visualize it, like how light would be scattering in the rooms. It just gets even more detailed the longer I try to visualize said thing, and I would just zone out completely. When I am satisfied with the visualization I would just try to do another visualization of another thing. I would make some made up ''simulations'' of me interacting with objects or other people that I've experienced in the past, basically reliving my memories but like VR without the VR headset, or make these ''simulations'' based on hypothetical scenarios. I would either do these ''simulations'', try to entertain myself with own made challenges based on spatial awareness and visualization, or just wander into typical imagination. And sometimes just being nostalgic or thinking about the future. I would mostly do all of these things when I have absolutely nothing to entertain myself with, which would typically be waiting for a queue, waiting for the bus or simply when its break time. Time passes quickly when I do these things and I do not become bored, its very enjoyable :D
Maybe I am not a INTP..I took the online test almost 50 times and got INTP in result...but i don't think I qualify to be an INTP..But more on a balanced side...
MBTI tests can't differentiate between INTP and INFP well. This is due that Jung himself has neglected growth as a large component in classification of thought. In other words, if your environment is more thinking than feeling, you'll be able to adopt similiar thinking patterns as INFP (or INTP surrounded by INFP). The behaviour for INTP and INFP in that case is only deviating in social environments rather than internal world. Check it out, perhaps you're INFP.
Yeah they're pretty borderline. I just took a test that said I'm 1% more t than f. I watched the intp and infp vids and I fit in both pretty well depending on the situation
One thing every INTP wants more of: time.
Ouch.
A girl friend and a life would be two more things.
Freddie Mercury true, but....
There's no time for us
There's no place for us
What is this thing that builds our dreams
Yet slips away from us?
Who wants to live forever?
Who wants to live forever?
There's no chance for us
It's all decided for us
This world has only one
Sweet moment set aside for us
So true :')
Yessss
ah, time for some ego stroking.
Lmaooo
Agreed.
I know,right?
But the knowledge that is can twist any description enouch it can fit to almost anybody brings your ego down really quick. I once watched one of those videos about ADHD and the comment section was full of poeple self-diagnosing themselves.
It makes you think of that one time you acted like that or even create a fake memory or exagorate some memory or something like that.
Think of this like abou a.....physic.
He/she starts with something that applies to almost anybody and that makes you tell everything to her and repeat it slightly differently.Or like a test. You just fill the correct answer. Or like a story on wattpad. (Y/N) means your name. (Y/N) is a human.
See? Not that hard.
Even better example is one youtube video. USSR anthem misheard. It shows show images and text of what that anthem sounds like and plays it. If you look at it and listen to it,you actually hear it. You know they're not the actual lyrics,but it's similiar and your brain just adjust it a little bit. It's just amazing.
Oh no,that comment is too long...
Now I look like a douche.
😂
@@badsoup8857 You are referring to what is known as the Barnum Effect.
Did anyone else accidentally zone out several times during this video?
Yeah, sshhh...
Dialog’s a bit slow...
#Feelsbadman
INTP zone-out
I wish I could give a grr rection to this comment
We are also super lazy, we can do stuff but are too lazy to it
But when we are in the game, we accomplish twice as much twice as quickly in comparison to most other types.
I view INTPs less as lazy and more as interested in moving onto the next exploration than dotting the i's on things they feel they've already gotten the value out of. Also avoiding heavy burdens of obligation which might interfere with leaving space to explore ideas. If an INTP thinks an area is worth his or her attention, they're usually very hard working.
That's actually bullshit. Laziness is a choice. I used to be lazy, but im far from it now.
I can do stuff, in that I have the *intellectual capacity* and *physical ability* to, but idiots like Deborah Bernhardt who ARE *genuinely* lazy (at the inexcusable expense of others) keep taking my *resources* to be *productive* with leaving me homeless, broke and unemployed at the age of 30! I think it's unfair that INTP's have a bad reputation for being lazy. I don't think it's really got anything to do with being INTP, I think it's just an *individual* thing- chances are you'll find any number of incredibly lazy people in ALL 16 MBTI types. I'd like to note that there's a certain negative *implication* carried by the word "lazy" that might not reflect *reality* . Just because someone lies or sits around all day not exerting much physical energy, might mean they're "lazy" but doesn't mean it's a *problem* or that they're somehow "bad" people, or that they *should* be doing *more* with their lives etc. It's at the point where one sits or lies around all day, and then come dinner time, they get up and demand that their parents, spouse, partner, friends, family etc (anyone else) has to make them dinner, THAT'S when it's a *problem* . One can be "lazy" but still be very *responsible* for their own lives and not [inexcusably] *burden* anyone, on the other hand, someone could be *constantly* "on the go" DOING lots of things, but that doesn't mean they're *responsible* and can take care of themselves _without_ burdening others!
As an Enfp, this is me
Am I the only INTP not into math? I love history, linguistics, astronomy, psychology, and some sciences, but math just doesn't do it for me.
I hate math and I'm an INTP as well. I excel in English and Art which is strange for an INTP hmm
No, you aren't alone. The only mathematic discipline I ever found stimulating was geometry.
@Rachel Wood Me 100%. INTP is one of four personalities that most musicians fall under, and I've been playing guitar for 10 years.
I'm a writter and i'm INTP, also i love music. But i really like science and chess problems. I don't hate math, i'm just bad at it but i like geometry
@The Zohan I could never get into (playing) music, despite several attempts at several different instruments. I could never stick with it long enough to get good enough to actually play a song and enjoy the experience. Also, I'm WAY too rigid. I could never relax enough to be comfortable while practicing.
I literary hate it when someone argues with me without any logic or fact backing up his arguments.
No you don't
Yeah, like when people say "Trump's bad and ugly and he hates gay people". I might even agree with that statement myself if it were presented as an actual argument, rather than just a default response to anything Trump-related, because that's what the media pushes you to believe. I just can't stand people who don't go into any depth or provide detail/reasoning. No topic is as simple as people make it out to be.
Of course we do.
easy there ben sharpiro
Brooo yes...i had a heated argument about why blm protests is a very important movement with an alm supporter...he was obnoxious but he was definitely giving good decent facts to his argument to the point he was convincing me...however when I gave my points he was yelling and wouldn't take it into account even though I gave sources to studies that support me...and that's when the conversation ended
Lots of INTP's in the comments... Never met one in real life.
Same
Thats because they dont go outside
You can easily find them at music concerts especially with artists that don’t use lyrics all too much. We tend to enjoy music without lyrics better
We don't socialize that much.
Our population is just 2,5% and we love lonelines
I truly believe we fellow INTP's are misunderstood and underappreciated in our society. We don't engage in meaningless chit chat in order to climb the hierarchy in the workplace, so our talents are often times ignored. We will offer unique and logical solutions to problems that will often times be shut down by other types with enormous egos and inferior critical thinking capabilities.
BenFrank OG agreed
Accurate.
I agree! We just tend to be on the quieter side and usually aren’t very outspoken, so I guess INTP’s are easily overlooked... I spend a bit too much time in my own head so I’ve been trying to engage more with the outside world to showcase what I have.
Indeed, I felt this my whole life, nobody understands me because I don't feel emotions as many do, I think logically and I give from the heart advices I don't tell them everything will be OK, no I tell them the possible paths and analyse what is happening and give them a possible way out. Now for me I don't know what's better, to lie to make someone feel better or the hard truth of getting them out of the situation
I get called out sometimes at work for not eating my lunch with others and not"networking." Oh well, if people can't appreciate me for what I do and not how I socialize than I'm not going to waste my time trying to prove my worthiness to them. I really don't care about them on a personal level anyway. I don't think we're the weird ones, I think everyone else is strange.
Anyone else here who technically has stuff to do, but can't be bothered.
Hanro50 you described my life story
Like sleep...
yeah. It's like i am 6 units of spanish behind, but i just can't be fu**ed to sit down and learn it.
Yeah I have homework but I can't bring myself to do it
@@Lea-ov8vq samee
Wow. This is so me. Does it bother anyone else to be seen as quiet at first? I hate that. It takes forever for ppl to know who i really am. It always makes it awkward in new situations. I'm not quiet or shy i just have nothing to say until i know you.
Jeremy Smith I think it's an INTP thing. We are quiet until we get to know the other. We don't want useless and fruitless conversations. I am quiet by myself but I will be the loudest amongst my friends
this is exactly how i feel. I am shy already but, "i have nothing to say until I know you" is the perfect way to describe meeting someone new in my experience
@@pocket-slime yeah i also feel like it's inappropriate to ask someone i don't know personal questions. So i suck at getting to know people. I feel like everything is about rltnshps so if i don't have one w you then It's basically inappropriate to say anything.
Very true
Yes i totally agree. It makes things so hard
INTP: I don't always troll but when I do I feel like I'm better at it than most people...
what up brother
pfft. When I do troll I always get banned, cause not even the moderators can stand my sass.
This
dude my friends think I’m crazy or abnormal cuz I troll but they don’t understand it xD
Something something introverted something
Just an INFP passing by to say hello to our rational brothers
To your *slightly more* rational brothers lol 😉 cheers, friend!
aww thats nice .....next time knock first now get out of my room
Hi
Hi, irrational sisters
@@mmkkad lol
I would love to be stuck in a room with 9 other intps to learn
8 of us will be late for the session and 1 "died"
And if you're not an INTP yourself, you would leave the room of your own accord in 3...2...
Look up Sam Ovens..
Exactly !
Then who will speak first
There’s something INTPs need: LONGER DEADLINES
I would have said "love", but love can wait a bit more :P
deadlines must come from other people. If you dictate your own deadline, you will only file perpetual extensions and be more than willing to approve such request.
I wouldn’t say longer deadlines so much as better paced deadlines, if it’s a long deadline I’ll just save it for later when it’s more prevalent and do other things now. Though I think deadlines are annoying all around, I wouldn’t mind it if they just gave us a list of things to get done by the end of the year but only if they never bother me during the year about my progress.
No what we need is lots of small deadlines instead of 1 big deadline.
Y E S
"You should Act as I Do." Oh...that's why people don't like me.
I think we fellow INTP's are actually pretty well liked. We don't engage in hostile ego battles and generally keep to ourselves. We also have a unique sense of humor and value cooperation.
But it’s true! :c
Can't say the same, maybe you're just an idiot!
@@DrMattFen aren't we all?
That's exactly why people don't like INTPs.
Because believing yourself to be rational and that it should be a guideline is in itself not rational at all from a realistic perspective.
I only dislike rules if they are irrational or cause more harm than good. I do not have a problem with rules in general. I have found that many rules serve a good purpose to solve a problem. The trouble is when the purpose for the rule is misjudged or abused. I dispise corruption. Systems that are excessively corrupt need to be removed or replaced.
Sometimes I just too lazy to follow the rules
I agree with that. Some rules are simply mechanisms for ruthless control.
Perfect!
Truth
Kathleen 168 I love rules but if they make no sense or there are process in place that make the job longer and make no sense I wanna go crazy and shout
Are there any INTPs who like to study trends and how things change over time? Like studying the evolution of music, or language, or fashion, or whatever?
That always intrigues me
Definitely. My recent obsession has been historical urbanism.
Yes, societal trends, political trends, architecture trends, etc. Helps to have a wide and expansive understanding of history in order to further see modern trends and modern society in a different perspective. Helps to gain insight on things, as well as understanding the very cyclical nature of society and history in general.
And then theres the desire to mix things, take old trends of music, architecture, fashion, and see how they would fair or look integrated in modern or future society
love fragrances! even collect them..basically we would like to know bout the whos hows whys whens wheres of everything! lol well depends though..we might start about smtg..then 5 mins later were already on a different matter lol
yep, our thing is that we like patterns. spot on.
Yes all the way! I'm always diving into the rabbit hole on how things are connected. The evolution of comedy was the last thing I was checking out. I didn't realize how influential Laurel and Hardy was to the later slap stick stuff and Lenny Bruce's setting the foundations for stand up comedy of today. Stuff like this.
Sometimes, I feel like I'm not an intp cuz they're portrayed as super geniuses. I am not a genius but I would prefer logic over all and even if I am an intelligent individual, I'm too insecure to consider that fact. But this makes me feel like an intp again .
Someone told me self-doubt and second guessing is a common INTP thing and it makes sense because theres always some piece of the puzzle missing so you can never be fully certain. Its kinda relieving to consider it in this sense, that its a normal thing for ones type
@@planetsec9 exactly
INTPs are intellectually oriented but that doesn't mean we're all super smart. An MBTI personality type isn't an IQ score. Pretty sure I'm in the average range, maybe just slightly above average.
Me too. I failed many classes because i thought there were not important. I tend to put so much pressure to my self when it comes to big task at work, id want it to be perfect. But when i failed, i disgust myself while at the same time thinking that my boss are all dumb as fuck.
That is something that is needed to overcome. If good-looking people can admit they are good-looking (which they should...logically), you have to come to terms that you are intelligent (logically). But don't stop there, develop wisdom. Be wise on being confident that what you know at the moment is significant but always be welcoming of better ideas. Admitting that you don't know everything is a good start, but also be confident that better ideas can be acquired.
Amy INTPs having a blast right now? because so much time to think due to corona virus...plus we are basically experts at this quarantine thing, we have been practicing all along 😂
mattR Mega No, I mean expertise not adapting, other people are adapting right now, we being productive friend 😎😂
Maybe try looking for a job where you can work less than 5 days/week and still live comfortably. I literally work half the year (3-on/4-off then 4-on/3-off, rotating) and my mental well-being has never been better!
im having a great time due to corona virus
True. It's like nothing really changed.
I’m actually in heaven. Like literally. Can it stay this way?
it’s hard out there for us INTPs in an extroverted driven society
mhm
@Es gibt keinen Gott relatable.
@Es gibt keinen Gott I would also say feeling, humans these days tend to only make decisions off of their emotions
This feels about right. It's a bit on the flattering side though. You failed to mention our issues with "lying" or throwing out ideas we know are false or debunked to see how people respond and stuff like that. Fun fact, we're also one of the lowest earning personality types because we value time more than money on the whole.
I'm not a fan of lying or testing people. That sounds more like INTJs to me.
I dont have a problem with lying.
Googled it made some research on how to detect a liar and became amazing at it
@@kathleen1685 I put lying in quotes for a reason. I mean testing flawed ideas more than anything. I'll give the same argument that's already been debunked to 3 or 4 people to see how they respond to it or how they overcome it. I don't just lie to people, and it's never facts it's logic that I know is flawed.
It’s fun to throw out a misleading theory and see how people react. But I am not so sure about the lowest earning, at least for instance IT industry that I am currently in, with high payment and quite easy to manage for INTP
I know an annoying INTP like this and he pisses me off -ISTP
The most relatable thing is at the end. Other people frustrate me when they can’t make simple decisions. I wish people would use logic over emotion. Like they said... so much conflict could be avoided....
I often feel like a horrible person when someone is having a melt down over a decision and instead of empathy I just feel annoyed by it.
Same^
joanna cancel
Same. I feel bad at the fact that I don’t care more than the reason they’re upset.
People annoyed me so much when they approach me for love or relationship advises like when their boyfriends/girlfriends cheat with them or any other problems then ask me what they should do with the situation. I give advises then they'll end up saying "but I love him/her" card. It's so annoying.
as I learned to accept eventually, which I have discovered, it's not that emotional people do not use logic but they use "emotional logic"
I’ve been told that it’s strange that I’m an INTP considering how artistic I am as I’m an artist, writer, theatre kid, book worm, etc. I have too many interests. I’m also more of a history and English person, although I do enjoy a few sub categories of science such as biology or astronomy. I’m not bad a math, if anything I’m really good at it, I just don’t particularly enjoy it. Not all INTPs have to be STEM people. They can be creative. For instance, Ellen Page is an INTP and she’s an actress. Although Einstein is a scientist, he was also very skilled in music, specifically the violin. I would disagree with the idea that INTPs are not artistic bc that’s far from the truth. If anything, we admire the arts since we admire and question abstract ideas.
Agree
I hate the fact that logic is always associated with STEM subjects. You can apply logic creatively or even, with a little work emotionally. You just need to have a mind that is ready to think, analyse and come to a conclusion on a given topic by certain rules you have set not through any emotions
This is completely me.
Accurate
Agreed. I get what you mean about math. I’m ok with it, but I don’t like doing the calculation part - I’m more interested in what the calculations tell us. And thinking about what you said about history, honestly, the world is a system of systems. Systems don’t have to all be "STEM". History is a set of systems too - socioeconomic, cultural, technological, geopolitical, social psychological, geophysical, biological, etc. systems that lead to events in history. It gets really fun when you look for the cross points between systems. For example, biophilic architectural design can lead to better recovery outcomes in hospital patients - why? Is it because the introduction of plants and full spectrum light alters the microbiome and consequently the neurotransmitters and immune system? Could biophilic design be introduced to inner cities, making a more pleasing environment, which has been shown to make alterations in the DNA of the residents through better DNA methylation and demethylation. Or, (fact) famed art nouveau designer William Morris used a lot of green in his designs (like his wallpaper) because he had an arsenic mine, and arsenic was used to make green pigment. This meant that the wealthy who could afford his wallpapers became gravely ill, many died, and they never knew why. How did that impact them socioeconomically.
Sorry - stream of consciousness.
I’ve thought about writing a story in which every Meyers Briggs type is represented in a character - thereby giving expression to the interactions between types. I’m an INTP, so naturally, I never got around to doing it. I’ve moved on to other topics (like you, biology, astronomy, and now physics a little). Wouldn’t that be fun, though, for theater? If you have more motivation to be creative than me, and if you like that idea, and you do that, reply to this message and I’ll come see it.
For some strange reason I feel better looking at the comments and realising I am not the only one, thank you
I'd say we can be fairly rebellious actually.
INTPs write great books! Just keep a dictionary close.
Fayt Wind I love writing but I always have to rewrite multiple paragraphs and have someone else read it over to make sure it makes sense haha.
I'm going to do this next time I write an unusually descriptive and detailed book with a slight yellow tint on it's paper making a replication of the sand laying near the beach on a hot summer day.
I'm joking, this was both good and horrible at the same time. I laughed at it though.
hahaha the dictionary is a must!
If we ever get past daydreaming about them
I love dictionaries!
Me: ooo im an INTP lets watch
My brain :*wonders off like 5 times during this video.*
Read the comment section, I love us omg
lol this made my day, you right we are awesome
That's the only reason I even came here.
*Soviet anthem intensifies*
Fellow INTP here. Sometimes my brain hurts from analyzing TOO MUCH. I rarely speak out but my brain just won't stop thinking. Im also lazy af. Maybe because all of our energy are used for the brain so we're physically 'tired' most of the time.
You know what really sucks? If you think about things for hours and feel more clueless afterwards than before. Also INTPs are often poor and low status, work at walmart and tend to have borderline political views. Additionally we're the most clumsy and incompetent in social settings, have few to none friends or sexual contact and spend our time on the internet. This is where we find (besides certain hell holes that drag us in) a test that tells us we belong to a class of geniuses.
If I could just convert 5% of my analyzing to constructive action. Hmm, now it makes me wonder if that is possible.
You’re not lazy. You just need a more challenging job that uses your skills. I find the imposed structure helps for some set hours per day. And then the rest of the day can be dedicated to meandering learning.
I made my whole "judgy" family uncomfortable because I was always questioning silly rules. I tried to argue once as a young that having pizza on Sunday night after church once in a while wasn't going to hurt. But they kept insisting that eating pizza that late would cause them all to gain a bunch of weight. I tried that wouldn't be possible if it didn't become a habit. I didn't win that argument, I was so bummed out =(
But seriously, I was quite bored with my overly serious, rule obsessed family so I broke them stupid rules any chance I got. Plus I felt a tad controlled and I wasn't having that. I didn't see the logic in sticking to rules that were unnecessary and needlessly restrictive to creativity and problem solving.
Judgementalness is basically the essence of being able to identify trouble and steer it away quickly in present time. It is almost always paired with short-sightedness and logical fallacies. It gets worse, if a bunch of judgemental people share a same belief, they'll gang up on you and try to apply group pressure to make you yield. It is a very nasty tactic that happens almost everywhere (70% of the world are feeler types, 40% of that are sensing feeling). The trick is not to fight against it, its to learn how to manipulate it. I get that it goes against your morals, but those morals will without a doubt never be in your favor unless you'll become a reclusive.
My advice: Learn how to speak their language. Make them think whatever they need to keep their idea of danger in you to an absolute minimum. And then do everything you were set out to do anyway. Its easy to explain, if they ever figure it out, you can play the emotional game in how their unrelenting and unfair rule abiding behaviour had pushed you to that point and the only way you saw fit was to do as you have done.
In short: Not even your judgemental family wants to be honest with you. Its because they don't understand the value in it. You can fight against it, or you can have them think it goes their way. Your choice.
Same with the seemingly silly or unreasonable rules... But instead of breaking them I try to understand why they exist and attempt to rationalize from there. =D
@@mariejean8016 Even if you can rationalise the existance of like rules, doesn't mean they're fair towards you or more people. This happens around traditions, which are quite often based on situational relevance (and thus not beneficial to you in another situation), a lot. Would you accept a rule that you can perceive to damage you or the environment? I wouldn't. I would work around it, make them think the rule is abided but in reality you deviate cleverly to prevent damage.
Well, prove them wrong next time
I was horrible at school and did that too. I just guessed whatever was on the test because I wanted to get out of there as soon as possible, but then the teacher had this rule that's "Don't answer the next question unless everyone is done" which made me a bit irritated because I thought it was pointless. I think they were trying to teach cooperation or something and I probably hated it because I sucked at it. I don't go to school now.
You can see the perfect example of INTPs portrayed by the comment section xD
I’m an ENFJ and I’ve always admired INTPs, it’s amazing how their minds work.
That's nice to say, but you should try being one. The internal monologue NEVER stops. When I don't have anything with which to occupy my mind, it tends to drift in ways that are irritating/annoying, like a friend that isn't comfortable with periods of silence so they fill the void with mundane chit chat.
All of this goes on subconsciously. I will repeatedly ask myself what day of the week it is over and over, or I get hung up on spelling certain words, specifically ones that are pronounced similar to how they are spelled. "Definitely" is a word that I have caught myself spelling over and over again. Only now do I realize that I have been spelling it wrong in my head all these years (i-n-i, not i-n-a). I will also frequently run through the days of the week from outside in (Monday, Friday, Tuesday, Thursday, Wednesday), omitting the weekends for some reason. I used to drive over an hour two and from work each day, so one week I taught myself to recite the alphabet backwards just so I wouldn't drive myself nut.
@@jimjob28 lololol
@@jimjob28 who is tat friend though? 🤔 have you did a research on this yet? lol
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Just personal experience and a bit of reading. I actually came across "INTP" before I knew anything about MBTI. I have always struggled with finishing tasks, so I Googled the phrase "Why can't I finish projects" and one of the first articles that popped up was about being an INTP. I read through the description and was able to instantly relate with about 95% of it. When I finally got around to actually taking a test I tested as INTJ. I retook the test, changing only one answer, and I came back INTP. The question I changed was "Do you like to make lists?"; which, upon reflection, I really don't like list making, particularly when compared to a friend of mine who lives his entire life off of lists.
@@jimjob28 And who is talking to who anyway? How many me's are there?
As an INTP, I hate the music at the beginning.
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I didn't even notice there was music at the beginning lol
I immediately muted and turned on CC. Actually, it was unusual for me to have sound on to begin with.
I wasn’t know it existed
I don’t think that has anything to do with INTP
This is why I love being an INTP. Our wit and humor and creativity is amazing
Best video I've seen on INTPs. And obviously, I've tried to watch most of them.
@Amber Morrison. lol indeed, good data though, data that can lead to better understanding, new insights, different perspectives about oneself and others, and ones relation to society etc... its like the more you know the more you can refine your own understanding of MBTI, your type, and how it all relates to you and others in society
I think it's kinda crazy how for a small bunch that often feels different,many of us who have been typed as INTPs are on here accepting that.
It's like an above average society,intelligent individuals with a nice worldview allowing themselves to be defined by someone's(Myers Briggs) perspective on who they are.
I don't deny the fact that I've related to many of the things that have been said about INTPs and I found it really nice to be so understood & see many others similar to me in the comments section but I still don't wanna be boxed in by this classification.
I can't help but feel like the more I research about this personality type,the more I strip myself off of a bit of authenticity because then there begins to be a certain biasness in my approach on things that I hadn't yet experienced but were said to be a part of the INTP personality type.
Anyway,I should be studying for my upcoming practical exams that will determine whether I go do my 4th year in medicine or not but here I am,because I want to understand myself better.
If you're an INTP, then you probably agree that knowing words and labels is good because it allows for classification and communication. But it never means they should stick. Reading about types while accepting or thinking yourself to be a certain type will without a doubt cause confirmation bias. I'm sure you'd try to be critical, but unless you spend years trying to understand individual functions described in Jung's research (or a couple of weeks intensively!), you won't be able to type yourself properly.
I strongly suggest C.S. Joseph's channel if you're interested in personality types.
That being said. Myers Briggs Type Idenfication tests, they are not good with nuances and not at all with cross-personality interaction steered growth. Meaning, the whole MBTI neglects the continuous influence of your environment.
I wrote it under this video somewhere else too, but if you find fitting properties but yet it does not quite fit, you might still be an INFP with nurtured Ti from environment. In the latter case, you will not have any trouble producing any thoughts that fit the INTP stereotype. Everyone has access to any type of thinking pattern, but litterally chooses not to for many varying reasons.
Understanding how your mind works and adjusting how you interact with the world accordingly actually sounds like a VERY INTP thing to me!
@@TheTigero At the very least, we can say that looking inwards is more of an introverted function than extroverted. Wanting to understand the world is probably mainly thinking with intuitiveness. There are various types that are capable of producing thinking with intuitiveness. The only differences between the type INTP and those others (e.g. INFP) is the frequency at which those thought patterns are accessed. As suggested in Jung's research, we're inclined to use other functions if we are in states of stress and inability. As such, even dramatically different personalities may produce INTP behaviour as long as the stress or inability persists. Now granted, the original poster does not sound to be in distress, so I do think its more safe to assume that the original poster's personality is either INTP or INFP. This is however a single moment in time, and does not guarantee a persistence in behaviour.. in other words, you can't know unless you observe yourself (or have someone else observe you) for extended periods of time.
You shouldn't expect absolute accuracy from this
@M SC thank you for your insight.I fit the standard definition of an assertive INTP by the way.
I think the problem with typing accurately is assuming certain behaviors are only unique to a particular personality type,as opposed to acknowledging that certain personality types exhibit those behaviors more strongly in comparison to the others.I've observed a lot of people on the net say they fall between (insert two different personality types) and I don't know why they do that;can you not be an INTP that can impressively navigate their way through an emotionally charged situation?If you can,then does that mean you fall between INTP & INFP?I think not,I think it just makes you an INTP that has matured enough to be able to develop some of the traits that are typically seen to be weak or inferior about your personality type.
Oh and,update...I'm doing my 4th year now : )
It’s not 5 minutes
It will be when TH-cam monetises it. 🐸☕
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5mins is the limit - it is within 5mins..
It is also in the fifth minute..
Minus the 9 second music intro and end music, the video stands at 4:26. Hm.
I feel like these comment sections are one of the best hubs for INTP's to mingle. Going through the comments, the replies are like 80% INTPs who agree, 10% INTPs who've learned to succeed offering advice, and 10% other MBTI... honestly i only looked through one comment, but i bet i'm still somewhat accurate
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Hi I'm an INFP, nice to meet you 😊
@@jugulawang8696 Good to meet you too! Funny, when I was a teenager and first took the test I was an INFP. Don't if that was because I didn't know myself as well back then or if I have genuinely changed into being an INTP.
@@Ralndrath Nice! I consider my INTP friends as meaningful, genius and we easily get along too, especially deep conversations.
I agree with it too.
@@jugulawang8696 INFPs are good people.
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i still dont know if im INTP or INFP... im like a hybrid of those 2 🙈🙈
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Same bro I just took a test and it said I'm 1% more t than f and I fit in both pretty well depending on the situation
Same, maybe you should look into cognitive functions? INFP have very strong Fi which makes them very certain of their emotions and values, they also make decisions based on feelings and emotion. I sometimes do not understand why I am having certain emotions so I think I am INTP.
lets see, infps use Fi, intps Ti primarily. so.. theyre pretty different tbh.
If intps use Fe, and infps Fi then by how you talk about feelings and people it should be quite clear.
If you talk about people generalizing, like everyone, we all, etc then its Fe, example: Humanity should do this; everyone thinks that,..
If its more of an I think that, I feel that, I see or believe etc. Youre an INFP. example: I think that this isnt that way, etc.
hopefuly its understandable..
And how are You FEELING about that ?:P... - Do not try to answer that question unless you are INFP!:D - ... The true INTP is still keep thinking how this test is build and how is relieble and...and... altrough it is in the end completly unessential:P ... But seriously, INTP dont give a fuck about unknown people in yt, so they dont have naked chest in pictures beside:D
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took several tests and ended up with intp each time. it definitely describes me through and through
I've been taking these tests since elementary school and I just graduated college a few months ago, the results have stayed the same
Anybody wanna be in an INTP group chat? Since we all have issues with being in our heads too often and not being more outspoken I feel this could be a good way to shake loose of some of our more introverted ways. Just a thought.
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when i took this test i realized how terrible of a person i am. its ya boi memelord intp.
Lol sameu
If other personality types have as much trouble with logic as I do emotional intelligence no wonder some of the stupid stuff humans are tricked into believing. I do think critical thinking skills is needed more in schools I know we have not reached a satisfactory average countrywide in the US.
Emotional intelligence is a meme. It doesn't exist. All that matters is IQ and conscientiousness.
@@Clothadin Well, "all that matters" if you're just trying to make money I suppose. Even with that goal in mind, you've left out extroversion, which could partially be equated with the aforementioned "emotional intelligence". If you think the ability to get along with people in your life (without them hating you, or you hating them) is some kind of overrated, useless expense of your energy, you shouldn't expect to get very far at all my dude. Good luck.
@@Clothadin Emotional intelligence does matter considering more than half of our population is emotionally oriented. You can excel greatly in the professional world if you can stroke your superiors ego for example. Critical thinking is not taught in public schools because our overlords want malleable individuals just capable enough to run the machines but not capable enough to ask the crucial questions as George Carlin put it.
Cahzinar X, One of the frustrating things about being an INTP is trying to explain to irrational people that illogical arguments aren’t debatable. Another is trying to get anyone to directly address really good arguments that refute some half-baked idea or unsupported opinion.
Intp's have to get in touch with their feelings but that's hard because a lot of us get so caught up in thought loops that an emotional state seems so distant and unreachable. I found that the best way to get in touch with your emotions is by spending time and acknowledging how you feel. Don't explain why u feel what you feel, what's causing it or trying to justify it just try and match your feelings with their names (sad happy anxious mad annoyed empty lonely etc) and repeat their names as long as they're there and when the emotions change name the new emotions. Once you do this more and more and you get good at identifying what your emotions are then stop thinking at certain times throughout the day and feel and acknowledge the emotion that arises. I believe whatever emotions arose when we stop thinking are the emotions that drive us. After that it's good to start describing what those emotions are. This is good if you're emotions are to deep for you to look at. It helped me to slow things down a bit just so I could see get grounded a little bit. I did it after I learned a CBT trick where you just point and name things in your surroundings. All it's basically doing is switching your cognitive Mose and giving you a little distance to start so you have a wiser view of the problem.
INTPs are the only true rationals.
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What about INTJ's?
@@MrWorm-mp6vw We rank them 2nd.
@@MrWorm-mp6vw INTJ's are less objective because of Fi
Hahahahahahahahaha. No.
I think I get it now, the conflict avoidance thing is because conflicts prevent progress, and prevents "the things" from falling into place, the temporary resistance to change. Avoidance seems like the wrong word, more like conflict prevention?
But I also think that sometimes thinkers can rationalize about something that just IS a feeling. Confrontations are hard emotionally. Especially when you aren't use to accepting emotion. From a fellow (female) intp
I avoid rules that stop me from doing what I want
yup agree
...But militarize the rules that help me to do what I want... oh f*, will I become a Karen?... No, because the rules says I am allways right, and a Karen must defy logic
INTP here. That last part: I do not think people should follow our lines of thinking and that it will "solve all problems", a lot of this is pretty stereotypical and black and white. For example with the government work we all obviously know that it's much more complicated than what our answers appear to be.
INTPs are notoriously misunderstood and I see it here as well.
Indeed. And what's with the robotic thinking. I can't be 100% sure that I am an intp - but eventhough my thinking process is logical it is also inspired and very associative. Creative, if you will.
I’m an intp and I hate math. I hate subjects that have too many rules or formulas. I like writing, English, technology, and art. I find books boring too as I’d rather just surf the web.
Same here lol hate maths but love illustration, music and philosophy!
i love math, history and art
3:43 this is exactly me and the weird part is that the thing I like the most is astronomy 😳
I had an honour to be INTP's close friend and I loved her brutal honesty and sarcastic sense of humor. Very authentic person just like myself and a great listener but way too emotionally closed and distant. Sometimes It would feel like you don't know her at all. (I'm INFP)
*This is so amazingly accurate*
Just wondering if I’m the only INTP that is basically obsessed with outer space and aliens and feel like I’d rather be out there than here on earth. I wonder if spacey related interests are common for INTP or just me
I like space. Space is big,
INTP also obssesed with space here, its probably common, loved space, space travel and scifi since I can remember. The immensity and vastness of space, the scale of worlds, suns and galaxies, the complexity and vastness of it all and our place within it. But also how its all governed by the same rules, and principles no matter if we're here in our solar system or 50 million light years away, how the cosmos is simultaneously ordered yet chaotic, and of course thinking of what the universe would be like under different rulesets, like I personally hate the Roche limit, its a very lame restriction on the beauty of the cosmos, thankfully it doesnt have to be a concern in scifi and fantasy and planets can be much closer there
Also the idea of us being all alone in the universe, or the universe teeming with intelligent life and aliens, both fascinate me for different reasons, which one is the truth I wonder
Fun fact: You’ll never see an ESFJ comment spying “the others”
I have a sarcastic humor and love word playing jokes. Also love languages and learning about different cultures. Hate math though, in general we’re logical people but Im a person of faith as well. Solitude has its beauty as we see things others miss. Love being an INTP never a dull day
Thanks, this helped me understand myself a bit better
Half intp and half infp, it's honestly confusing sometimes. When there's a conflict between 2 people, i can think logically about the source of that problem and how to solve it logically, but then i am able to relate emotionally to those 2 people and how they can solve the problem through emotions. I ended up being a confused mediator.
You should try to incorporate the system of emotions into logic. (Yes, emotions are a system and has their own internal relations!)
I was going to say the same thing the other commenter wrote. Lol. The world is a system of systems. Not all systems are STEM, and even non-STEM systems are integrated together and with STEM systems. Psychological, social psychological systems are tied into tons of other kinds of systems - biological, socioeconomic, transportation, geopolitical, etc.
When your teacher teach math and you think the next level, you think how could it possibly like that, where is it come from, what is it for. Then you miss the teacher explanation.
So you just have to teach yourself.
I am an INFJ and I love INTPs! You guys are the best people to have the most meaningful conversations with~ 😊
My last boyfriend was an INFJ. (We were at incompatible life stages, but we stayed friends. I appreciate his structure, creativity, organization, follow through and well-meaningness).
I know the meaning of everything
Oh my gosh, this has to be me. It has to be. This is probably the most relatable video I have ever seen.
Hello there, just an ISFJ passing by, wishing y'all a blessed day.
im intp and you got me right on the nose with this video lmao
Best Intp video ever!!
This is really me. Specially the learning alone part, I hate schools so much. I just wanna learn what I want like an open world game. And if I don't understand something go backwards or switch to another book or something about it
I have 0 creativity tho
I also need rules to not go paranoid
I missed the boat in school, as the internet was in its infancy... But with the resources we have today like TH-cam, INTPs could easily be set loose to learn what interests them, and learn much more than in a traditional school setting.
Also, feel you on the creativity thing... Were creative in a different way - the way we view problems and solve them is often incredibly creative, but I for one struggle more so artistically.
@@TheTigero oh. huh maybe I a creative then!
@@TheTigero that's the exact reason I quit university. that and the fact they taught me useless theory poetry nonsense and used really outdated stuff!
Took several online tests and got INTP as a result on all of them. Pretty accurate.
Can sum it up with my 5th grade report card: does not work at potential. Detention for messy desk.
Nothings changed LOL
I still get comments at work about my messy desk. But in my mind, it is considered organized, at least I know where things are.
I usually score INFP (occasionally INTP) on these tests, but I relate far more to INTPs in every way and I don't really understand the emotion INFPs have. I love learning new things and I don't really account for others' feelings that much. I shouldn't let a test determine how I live my life anyways though. I'll just be the INFP that poses as an INTP lulz
The part about desiring harmony in society and relationships was a relief to hear. I've always wondered if maybe I'm secretly an INFP, even though I always test as an INTP, because that seems so "feely" to me.
You were basically describing me DAMN
Soo precise
Anyone else have ADHD and feel like a lot of these apply to ADHD symptoms as well? Lol I'm noticing a ton of overlaps
Totally relatable. Thought I'm ADHD once
yeah i also think i had adhd
yeah, I (according to the tests I've taken) am an INTP and I also have ADD. A lot of the more intricate "symptoms" of ADD overlap with the descriptions of INTP
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Better description than the 4 minutes one
This is the most accurate presentation of an intp.
I hate conformity! Love my solitude! And logic! My social preferences do revolve around harmony!
This resonated
“Societal processes create over complex solutions” ; Kinda creepy that I said almost the exact same thing today..
I did a test many years ago and figured I was an ISTP, but although technically inclined I've struggled with the rigidity of such tasks and always felt a need for deeper meaning and soulfulness. Only now I realise that I'm much more likely a INTP and this makes a lot more sense to me. Feels like coming out of a closet 😅😅😅
I found this spot on.
can someone explain more about being into harmony socially? the video goes on to say that INTP assume everyone is logically minded
Describes me perfectly
conformist
@@billylion3073 sticks and stones😁😊
@@nique27cool =P was jk and i never really liked that sticks and stones saying i thought it was inaccurate
its more like stick and stones may break my bones but names will make me kill myself not me personally but to correct the saying in general ....and that got dark quickly
LOL that last bit got me. "If only ya'll could see things from my logical pov...." gosh, emotions are so messy!
I’ve always had trouble with teachers about meeting deadlines for things I already understand and simply see doing assignments for them pointless because I’ve already learnt what I needed to.
INTPs are like Daleks...
-"Convert to logic and reason or be EXTERMINATED!"
INTJ passing through. INTP's prefer to be in the background, so if you need an INTJ with plans for world domination to join, hit me up. I'm right-wing, but apparently that doesn't matter to INTP's as long as they get to be involved? INTP: I'm joining the rebellion! INTJ: What are you rebelling against? INTP: Doesn't matter!
That actually makes INTPs definitively left wing.
Kakto Tak As an INTP myself, I think we are rather inclined to hold libertarian values either way. As this video pointed to, I think a lot of us tend to dislike overcomplicated or unnecessary authoritative involvement, which could be attached to either side of the political aisle.
"overcomplicated or unnecessary authoritative"
All of these qualifiers are subjective. And since you most likely aren't familiar with the reasons why government structures work the way they do, and therefore can't really make a justified positive claim of the kind you made in your comment, it means that your attitude towards any kind of "involvement" like that is more of an instance of your general attitude towards government. It doesn't look like you are a small government conservative, which means you are a plain libertarian. And libertarianism is leftist (crossover at best). It is leftist in its goal (destroy order), in its assumptions (e.g., conflicts don't exist, only confrontations), and values (unrestrained control by an individual at all costs).
Kakto Tak At least to me, the goal of libertarianism is not to “destroy order.” I’m a firm believer in the social contract (I do think that, generally, government is indeed necessary). If I wanted to get rid of all of it, including that, it would just be anarchy. The point is to get the government out of things it doesn’t need to be involved in (hence why I say “unnecessary”).
Furthermore, of course what one does and doesn’t find necessary is completely subjective, but as INTPs tend to look for an objective way without a lot of “subjective” overcomplicated exceptions, I think we’re inclined to prefer a less restrictive set of fundamental laws, which is something I find represented by libertarianism. Eg. “Don’t encroach on the liberties and property of other people.”
So you think a fair and stable social order, with rights, liberties, NAP, etc, can be sustained primarily (if not exclusively) through informal social contract, with little to no governmental authority involved?
“They’re more interested in understanding things work than how they could personally stand to gain from them” that one described me a little too well
This is a very good video!
I’m INTP and this is very true!!
What jobs do INTP's do? I'm 34 and have been a support worker for 10 years, before then was in the Navy (Which I left early due to depression at the time). I'm not that fond of the support work I do now but I work flexible hours and the people who I support are actually relatively independent so the job is very easy, but I feel I need to move on because of the bad pay and I'm not feeling content.
My hobbies are reading non fiction books on a wide range of subjects (Whatever interests me at the time), I go running (to loose weight. I took it up 5 months ago), I play Poker (I make a profit throughout the course of a year, but not enough to make a living, due to low end bank roll atm), I play chess, I watch movies and TH-cam videos and I go out for a few beers maybe 3 times a month with a couple of close friends.
So yeah, that's me..... Any Ideas what I can do? I'm thinking about learning Accountancy, but I'm not sure it suits my personality, another thing I've thought about is Forensic Science. I've starting to teach myslef computer coding to see if I can get into that, but after only a couple of days I'm already getting frustrated with it, whenever I get "errors" etc, not really enjoying it. pffffff.
Any help or ideas would be great. Thanks
Well we're all INTPs here and therefor also have the same problem as far as jobs and not knowing what to do with ourselves, so maybe we aren't the best ones to ask but...
Myself? I'm an exotic dancer (aka yes a stripper). Might seem like a weird thing for an INTP but It pays the bills, I make my own schedule, am my own boss and don't have to work that often (11 or 12 nights per month at most). I don't particularly like it but don't hate it as much as working some regular 5 day/week 9 to 5 job.
My only suggestion is to try and find something that will allow you to work from home or work fairly independently and offer a flexible schedule. That's what I'm working towards - Art and graphic design. Some writing too. The coding would be cool but not sure if I'd have the patience for it either.
It seems like everything interests us but nothing holds us 😒 When I encounter anything that ends up having a lot of mundane intricacies, I get bored and lose interest.
I worked in steel machining for 14 years, now i weld furniture. They're good jobs, i work alone and have control over my work space, my creative input is valued. My free time hobbies go all over the place. From art to tech and anything that interests me enough. Lot's of fun but it's also a curse, i guess it's worth it.
Do you think it suitable for an INTP to pursue a medical career? Cause I'm forced to have one. An INTP pre med student here✌🏻
*Called out again, boosts ego.*
The key things to learn and accept as an INTP is that the emotional states of the people around you are a part of the larger constructed framework of the social ‘systems’ that govern your life. The even harder thing to learn is how to recognize and healthily digest those emotional states within yourself. The imaginative over-analysis we are prone to spend mental effort on can be detrimental if the focus and outcome is towards correcting your own flaws, but through a lens of punishment and negativity. You can’t change yourself and your habits overnight, but if you learn to accept your own inconsistencies and imperfections in the context of patience and positive reinforcement of good habits, you’ll find it much easier to change. It also becomes easier to extend the same type of acceptance and grace to those around you, which ultimately helps create and sustain much healthier, more complete relationships with others.
In other words, we may be the best equipped people to find happiness in ourselves and others, because we tend to think deeply and abstractly and apply our ideas to our emotional selves. But we can also be the worst at it, sustaining ‘darkness’ within ourselves over what we perceive to ‘work’ for us within a shallow, albeit logical, cultivated cage of self-doubt and self-loathing.
I remember sitting on my bed looking at the moon and then I had the sudden urge to try to make a mental image of where the sun is located based on which side the moon was illuminated on, the time of day and the position of the moon. Then just going to my computer to google maps and trying to see if my guess was correct.
Then just going to Chat-GPT learning about the moon phases.
Its honestly pretty fulfilling and interesting. My favourite thing to do when I have nothing else to entertain myself with is just trying to mentally practise spatial awareness and visualization from different angles, just imagining how things would look like from someone elses perspective, my face, body, the view from behind me. Or if I was looking in the room from the corner. Sometimes trying out abstract angles, maybe a top down view and layering it. For example How the roof would look, since now the view would be 2D and there wouldn't really be noticeable depth, then mentally getting rid of the roof and trying to look inside the building itself from such an angle, in this position you would be able to see things inside different rooms when normally you wouldn't because there would be a wall separating you. It would look like a schematic that architects use when designing rooms, but instead it would be colored and more lively. I would progressively add more details the longer I try to visualize it, like how light would be scattering in the rooms.
It just gets even more detailed the longer I try to visualize said thing, and I would just zone out completely. When I am satisfied with the visualization I would just try to do another visualization of another thing.
I would make some made up ''simulations'' of me interacting with objects or other people that I've experienced in the past, basically reliving my memories but like VR without the VR headset, or make these ''simulations'' based on hypothetical scenarios.
I would either do these ''simulations'', try to entertain myself with own made challenges based on spatial awareness and visualization, or just wander into typical imagination. And sometimes just being nostalgic or thinking about the future.
I would mostly do all of these things when I have absolutely nothing to entertain myself with, which would typically be waiting for a queue, waiting for the bus or simply when its break time.
Time passes quickly when I do these things and I do not become bored, its very enjoyable :D
I got bored of being an intp. How can I be an enfj or smh? Please! Someone?
Impossible
I think you were in a dark place during the time this comment was posted
Could easily be a description of the Logical Intuitive Integrator.
and mostly the intuitive subtype
Wow I’m such an airhead intp that I completely zoned out of the video and got super involved in reading people’s comments
I've never heard of a self-aware airhead so you probably aren't one =)
I really like that comparison with the entp because I do linger between these two it’s just at this point of my life that I feel most introverted
Maybe I am not a INTP..I took the online test almost 50 times and got INTP in result...but i don't think I qualify to be an INTP..But more on a balanced side...
MBTI tests can't differentiate between INTP and INFP well. This is due that Jung himself has neglected growth as a large component in classification of thought. In other words, if your environment is more thinking than feeling, you'll be able to adopt similiar thinking patterns as INFP (or INTP surrounded by INFP). The behaviour for INTP and INFP in that case is only deviating in social environments rather than internal world. Check it out, perhaps you're INFP.
Yeah they're pretty borderline. I just took a test that said I'm 1% more t than f. I watched the intp and infp vids and I fit in both pretty well depending on the situation
In times of conflict, the most logical thing to do, is put yourself in the other persons shoes.
Edit: Was Jon Forbes Nash an INTP?
Hard to tell because the schizophrenia masks personality traits.
@@kathleen1685 Thanks for your input.
"Personality 'traits?'"
Hmmm...
How about cognitive functioning?
I think he was an INTJ, based in real life, not in the movie. But I'm not sure really.
NFP... Thanks.
John Forbes Nash was most likely an Alien that doesn't fit inside any MBTI test
Loved the "offbeat directions" part. I'm really into things that are not mainstream, I hate things that are too popular, it just loses value.
agree
I'm not rebellious, I just can't follow rules. Society's rule, expected manners, trends whatsoever..