I bought my A4 few days back bcs I got a discount , and the 5 wasn't available in stock in many stores . My preferred one will be 6 :)) a combination of 4 and 5 will work best ! Bdw what settings did you use on 4? /thx
The 5 has a warmer and brighter picture over the 4, though the 4 is much sharper details and shows the clouds more than the 5, both look good for an action camera 👍👍
Great video. OA5 normal color looks strange, very sharp and saturated, OA4 looks more natural. But both on the D-LOG M look basically the same, and you can match the images easily. I think if you already have OA4, it's not worth upgrading.
Yeh, it feels like DJI tried to cram in other improvements, pressure sensor for under water, larger battery (which you can buy for the OA4), larger and much better screens (OLED instead of LCD), software improvements like the zooming/following you, but the sensor is the same size and basic video quality is largely unchanged in DLOGM. That's a skip for me.
@@BikePOV-PauloRodrigo-ow6hm Absolutely, it's really not difficult to do. It's fun to have it in the camera, but feels like DJI were just trying to cram things in because otherwise the image quality is largely the same so not much reason to upgrade.
@@DigiDriftZone And this "SuperNight" is super processed, looks bad, its a SuperNightmare hahaha. You can set your own settings and get a way better low light footage even with a Action 3.
Yes the lower Mbps is a big contributing factor and DJI has said that they will release a firmware update to offer a higher bitrate option, Right now the Action 5 Pro at 4K@30 is 55 Mbps vs 90 Mbps out of the Action 4 and it's noticeable.
I'd use the A5Pro if I was going to court for doing a burnout. It really seems to hide the tire marks you've obviously laid down with the Challenger. So am I wrong...does the A4 actually provide a more accurate depiction of what is real world? The A5Pro seems to clean up fine details...or is that the 5 bit thing impacting the recording?
Jimmy, Yes there is more detail in the Action 4, and the Action 5 Pro almost looks like some noise reduction has been added. The Action 5 records at a lower bitrate 55 Mbps vs 90 Mbps from the Action 4, but DJI said they were going to release a new firmware to offer a higher bitrate option, so that should help a lot with detail.
I’ve been waiting for your review of this camera as you’re one of the few TH-camrs I trust to be brutally honest about products. When will you have your full review out with your overall thoughts?
Thanks Trey, I have a LOT of tests to do with this camera and waiting on the new firmware update from DJI, then I'll release my full review video. Hopefully in the next 2 weeks so I can be fair to this camera.
Disappointed. The 4 looks better than the 5, which looks a couple of stops too bright - where have the details gone? Looks like I'll have to wait again for DJI to issue a 'fix'. After numerous firmware updates, it took them 6 months to dispatch cameras without the focus problem that some people encountered with the original release of the Action 3. 🙏
Exactly. Reminds me of GoPro colour: overexposed and oversaturated. From what I can tell, the DlogM is excellent however, apart from the nasty bitrate issue
The 5 seemed to have a bit "warmer" tonal quality than the 4. Other than that, I didn't see much difference. Any other significant useful additions / changes to the 5 over the 4 to make it worth the additional $50 for the standard combo?
The Action 5 Pro records at a lower bitrate and DJI has said they will offer a new firmware soon to offer a higher bitrate option which should fix the detail issue.
@@WORTHITORNOT I know you shot in auto for testing purposes, but I just drop my exposure by a stop or two in bright exposure situations and video seems fine.
The 4 and the 5 are the same size but the Action 4 weights 143.8 grams and the Action 5 Pro weights 146.3 grams, also the Action 5 Pro has an OLED screens now and the rear screen is from edge to edge.
Same sensor size but max photo resolution is higher on the 5Pro, and it has higher ISO range, so maybe not the same sensor after all. Firmware is going to fix a lot on the 5Pro footage, currently a lot of the detail is blown out. SuperNight is the one where there might be a noticeable difference, even if low light is indeed niche with an action cam. Looking forward to the next video !
I think a lot of it has to do with the low bitrate giving such poor detail when compared to the Action 4. The Action 5 Pro does have a new image sensor, this is from DJI " Our new sensor captures your best. From city nights to dramatic sunrises, get crystal-clear images with a 4nm chip. Experience vibrant imagery with 2.4 μm pixels and 13.5 stops of dynamic range, rivaling pro cameras." Knowing DJI, they will release some firmware updates to improve this camera fast, DJI already acknowledged that they will release a firmware for a higher bitrate option.
@@StirfriedGerman DJI did say they were going to release a new firmware very soon to offer a higher bitrate, Action 5 Pro 55Mbps Action 4 90Mbps, which can account for a huge difference is detail.
Well dang. The 4 looks Sharp and the 5 looks smooth is it worth it to get a 5 just for better screens oled not lcd and the option to have two mics and more under water depth? Hmm i don't know. I'll wait for more videos from your testing before I make a decision. Thank you for all your work on the videos you provided for us.
action 5 brighter than action 4 i the main difference is the sharpness of the image quality at a distance action 5 had better long distance image quality close up the action 4 might be sharper maybe well should i upgrade maybe i will wait heard there will be a few more action cameras coming out thank you for your amazing video
I don’t see any earth shattering upgrades. The 5 is really a step or two backwards. Maybe with some firmware updates they’ll get it upto the level of the 4. But then why spend the $$$ if it’s only a 4. Thanks for the review Andre.
@@TimHWolfe Hey Tim, well the 5 does have a new sensor and added a 4nm chip. I think after some firmware updates it can be much better. But with saying that, the Action 4 is a rock solid camera.
@@WORTHITORNOT I saw it does have some good new features. Strange that with all the effort that goes into bringing a new product to market. That they wouldn’t have cleaned up the bit rate. I think their hardware is there. I liked that one description - beautified. 👍 sort of looks like a filter they put on cameras to smooth out peoples wrinkles on screen. We’ll see how they do on the firmware update. Thanks Andre.
@@JimmyJinIA Seems like it! Kelly has an Action 4 and the convenience of the built in receiver for the DJI mic, plus the realistic colors and decent image quality make it a go-to for our quick on the go shots.
That would be cool if they offered it, but I do like that they added stems now, gives us the ability to tailor the song just the way we want for certain scenes.
Weird , at 2:25 the skies on the Action 4 has a lot of banding in the sky where the 5 is smooth. I thought the 4 was also 10 bit. Looking forward to more test clips
I noticed that too, they were both recording 4K@30 10bit normal color profile. Not sure what causes that as it shouldn't be TH-cams compression as that would have affected both clips.
I agree, I think between noise reduction added in camera and the lower bitrate "may" have had something to do with it. DJI stated they will release a new firmware offering a higher bitrate option which I think will help with detail.
The sky colour look weird and as soon as there are some smaller thin clouds, in the new 5 pro they just turn into blue purple something…….and the colours are to pop . I li,e more the colours and image of the 4. Look at the road……the one on 4 looks like the real road, with marks on it……..well maybe is just me. But I ll get the 4 for my filming on my channel
01:00 oa5 need that update. Looks like it sucks in to much light. But the color profiles wery close. They will be same, when dji send out update. This is where dji are the only cam you can trust. Rest are a joke
Yes ! The new sensor is capable of a high ISO range hence why it's soo good in low light now, but the low bitrate coupled with needing to tweak the overall image is something I am sure DJI will take care of as they are always on top of fixing issues when possible
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I bought my A4 few days back bcs I got a discount , and the 5 wasn't available in stock in many stores . My preferred one will be 6 :)) a combination of 4 and 5 will work best ! Bdw what settings did you use on 4? /thx
@ The Action 4 was 4K@30 all auto
I found the action too fast to see all the detail. Have to say at times the 4 showed more detail on the roads, like grooves and tyre marks etc.
I agree Glen, The Action 5 Pro has a lower bitrate recording and DJI has said they will offer a higher bitrate option in the next firmware update.
The 5 has a warmer and brighter picture over the 4, though the 4 is much sharper details and shows the clouds more than the 5, both look good for an action camera 👍👍
Great video. OA5 normal color looks strange, very sharp and saturated, OA4 looks more natural. But both on the D-LOG M look basically the same, and you can match the images easily. I think if you already have OA4, it's not worth upgrading.
I think it has something maybe to do with the new sensor that needs some firmware updates or that new 4nm chip..
Yeh, it feels like DJI tried to cram in other improvements, pressure sensor for under water, larger battery (which you can buy for the OA4), larger and much better screens (OLED instead of LCD), software improvements like the zooming/following you, but the sensor is the same size and basic video quality is largely unchanged in DLOGM. That's a skip for me.
@@DigiDriftZone Zooming/following can be done in Davinci Resolve.
@@BikePOV-PauloRodrigo-ow6hm Absolutely, it's really not difficult to do. It's fun to have it in the camera, but feels like DJI were just trying to cram things in because otherwise the image quality is largely the same so not much reason to upgrade.
@@DigiDriftZone And this "SuperNight" is super processed, looks bad, its a SuperNightmare hahaha. You can set your own settings and get a way better low light footage even with a Action 3.
There's more compression artifacts with the 5 due to the lower bit issue
Yes the lower Mbps is a big contributing factor and DJI has said that they will release a firmware update to offer a higher bitrate option, Right now the Action 5 Pro at 4K@30 is 55 Mbps vs 90 Mbps out of the Action 4 and it's noticeable.
I'd use the A5Pro if I was going to court for doing a burnout. It really seems to hide the tire marks you've obviously laid down with the Challenger.
So am I wrong...does the A4 actually provide a more accurate depiction of what is real world? The A5Pro seems to clean up fine details...or is that the 5 bit thing impacting the recording?
Need a update. That's how dji do it. Go to the Forum and describe problems. They are there to fix it.
@hurtighansen1 they've already acknowledged that they will be adding the bitrate increase to their next update.
Jimmy, Yes there is more detail in the Action 4, and the Action 5 Pro almost looks like some noise reduction has been added. The Action 5 records at a lower bitrate 55 Mbps vs 90 Mbps from the Action 4, but DJI said they were going to release a new firmware to offer a higher bitrate option, so that should help a lot with detail.
@WORTHITORNOT You kinda sidestepped admission of who could have laid down those tire tracks in your neighborhood...hmmmm...lol! 😄😁😆
@@JimmyJinIA I have no idea of what you’re talking about :)
The road surface tells the story for me the 4 looks real the 5 looks beautified.
Haha, beatified is a good analogy,
I’ve been waiting for your review of this camera as you’re one of the few TH-camrs I trust to be brutally honest about products. When will you have your full review out with your overall thoughts?
Thanks Trey, I have a LOT of tests to do with this camera and waiting on the new firmware update from DJI, then I'll release my full review video. Hopefully in the next 2 weeks so I can be fair to this camera.
5 looks over processed. It does look like GoPro footage. I’ll stick to my 4. I shoot in D-Log anyway.
Disappointed. The 4 looks better than the 5, which looks a couple of stops too bright - where have the details gone? Looks like I'll have to wait again for DJI to issue a 'fix'. After numerous firmware updates, it took them 6 months to dispatch cameras without the focus problem that some people encountered with the original release of the Action 3. 🙏
Exactly. Reminds me of GoPro colour: overexposed and oversaturated. From what I can tell, the DlogM is excellent however, apart from the nasty bitrate issue
The new DJI looks more Gopro than Gopro now.
That’s a great way to describe it
Yes Brandon it does for sure
Agree, where the OA4 looks more classy and cinematic the OA5 looks cheap and overprocessed. At least there is DlogM
The 5 seemed to have a bit "warmer" tonal quality than the 4. Other than that, I didn't see much difference. Any other significant useful additions / changes to the 5 over the 4 to make it worth the additional $50 for the standard combo?
It does offer some good upgrades over the Action 4 and I'll discuss those in my final review video
Great music by the way
The DJI Action 4 appears to be sharper with less red over tone, both appear to be very stable.
What happened to the fine detail in the road on the OA5?
The Action 5 Pro records at a lower bitrate and DJI has said they will offer a new firmware soon to offer a higher bitrate option which should fix the detail issue.
Good comparison. The Action 5 video looked overexposed at times, and the Action 4 looked great as always. Thanks for sharing.
Hey there Ronald, Yes I agree 100%, let's see what DJI offers regarding a firmware update to fix some of these things and improve it.
@@WORTHITORNOT I know you shot in auto for testing purposes, but I just drop my exposure by a stop or two in bright exposure situations and video seems fine.
Are the Action 3 4 and 5 have the same size dimensions body wise? Can they fit in the same cases?
The 4 and the 5 are the same size but the Action 4 weights 143.8 grams and the Action 5 Pro weights 146.3 grams, also the Action 5 Pro has an OLED screens now and the rear screen is from edge to edge.
Same sensor size but max photo resolution is higher on the 5Pro, and it has higher ISO range, so maybe not the same sensor after all. Firmware is going to fix a lot on the 5Pro footage, currently a lot of the detail is blown out. SuperNight is the one where there might be a noticeable difference, even if low light is indeed niche with an action cam. Looking forward to the next video !
I think a lot of it has to do with the low bitrate giving such poor detail when compared to the Action 4. The Action 5 Pro does have a new image sensor, this is from DJI " Our new sensor captures your best. From city nights to dramatic sunrises, get crystal-clear images with a 4nm chip. Experience vibrant imagery with 2.4 μm pixels and 13.5 stops of dynamic range, rivaling pro cameras."
Knowing DJI, they will release some firmware updates to improve this camera fast, DJI already acknowledged that they will release a firmware for a higher bitrate option.
@@WORTHITORNOT Lol I don't know where I got the same sensor info from. Bitrate can hopefully be upped.
@@StirfriedGerman DJI did say they were going to release a new firmware very soon to offer a higher bitrate, Action 5 Pro 55Mbps Action 4 90Mbps, which can account for a huge difference is detail.
@@WORTHITORNOT i'd trade up for $50, but I'm not buying one on top of the 4 and the Pocket 3😂
@@StirfriedGerman Haha I don’t blame you, I’d do it too. You’re really set with the Action 4 and the Pocket 3, no need to upgrade imo
Well dang. The 4 looks Sharp and the 5 looks smooth is it worth it to get a 5 just for better screens oled not lcd and the option to have two mics and more under water depth? Hmm i don't know. I'll wait for more videos from your testing before I make a decision. Thank you for all your work on the videos you provided for us.
That's why I waited for the reviews of the Action 5 "Pro" and got instead the Action 4. 😅
Great video btw!
@@thetanweerali Thank you and thanks for watching !
action 5 brighter than action 4 i the main difference is the sharpness of the image quality at a distance action 5 had better long distance image quality close up the action 4 might be sharper maybe well should i upgrade maybe i will wait heard there will be a few more action cameras coming out thank you for your amazing video
Hey Jeff, let's see what DJI offers regarding a new firmware to fix some small issues
It’s easier to see the dynamic range on the bike ride I think, a little slower. More detail on the 4. I like the color on the 5.
I don’t see any earth shattering upgrades. The 5 is really a step or two backwards. Maybe with some firmware updates they’ll get it upto the level of the 4. But then why spend the $$$ if it’s only a 4. Thanks for the review Andre.
@@TimHWolfe Hey Tim, well the 5 does have a new sensor and added a 4nm chip. I think after some firmware updates it can be much better. But with saying that, the Action 4 is a rock solid camera.
@@WORTHITORNOT I saw it does have some good new features. Strange that with all the effort that goes into bringing a new product to market. That they wouldn’t have cleaned up the bit rate. I think their hardware is there. I liked that one description - beautified. 👍 sort of looks like a filter they put on cameras to smooth out peoples wrinkles on screen. We’ll see how they do on the firmware update. Thanks Andre.
I kind of like the Action 4 better. 👀
They seem to be at a nice price point right now. I was waiting to see how good the A5P was, maybe I just need an A4 right now...hmmm.
@@JimmyJinIA Seems like it! Kelly has an Action 4 and the convenience of the built in receiver for the DJI mic, plus the realistic colors and decent image quality make it a go-to for our quick on the go shots.
At this time Kris, I agree, let's see what DJI offers in the next few firmware updates.
Sorry for the silly question but does the 5 have the option to timestamp the footage?
Yes the Action 5 Pro has the ability to record internal timecode, or are you asking about date/time on the video?
@@WORTHITORNOT actually I meant a time stamp right on the video, like a watermark so it’s not necessary to add it in post production if needed
@@carlodefilippi6914 Humm, I’ll have to take a look, I’ll report back in a few hours when I get back home.
@@WORTHITORNOT thank you!
4 looks better , and dji knows it , they pulled the sale on the action 4 , the price went back up to where it was before the action 5 was released !!
@@Tonellacam Humm. Let’s see what DJI’s new firmware offers the Action 5 Pro.
As usual we think alike.
Love the stems feature in Artlist - just need a mobile version still 😅
That would be cool if they offered it, but I do like that they added stems now, gives us the ability to tailor the song just the way we want for certain scenes.
Weird , at 2:25 the skies on the Action 4 has a lot of banding in the sky where the 5 is smooth. I thought the 4 was also 10 bit. Looking forward to more test clips
I noticed that too, they were both recording 4K@30 10bit normal color profile. Not sure what causes that as it shouldn't be TH-cams compression as that would have affected both clips.
Humm the Action 5 pro looks artificial at times
Yeah, I get what you're saying and agree.
The 5 Pro looks brighter to me.
It is, just wait for the HLG video I'll post lol
I didn't see even one cloud on the 5. Better dynamic range, my ass.
I agree, I think between noise reduction added in camera and the lower bitrate "may" have had something to do with it. DJI stated they will release a new firmware offering a higher bitrate option which I think will help with detail.
The sky colour look weird and as soon as there are some smaller thin clouds, in the new 5 pro they just turn into blue purple something…….and the colours are to pop . I li,e more the colours and image of the 4. Look at the road……the one on 4 looks like the real road, with marks on it……..well maybe is just me. But I ll get the 4 for my filming on my channel
For now not wort it at all , there is alot of problims compare with ac4
01:00 oa5 need that update. Looks like it sucks in to much light. But the color profiles wery close. They will be same, when dji send out update.
This is where dji are the only cam you can trust. Rest are a joke
Yes ! The new sensor is capable of a high ISO range hence why it's soo good in low light now, but the low bitrate coupled with needing to tweak the overall image is something I am sure DJI will take care of as they are always on top of fixing issues when possible
dji osmo 4 is far better and cheaper now
Action 4 is better than 5 series.
Too much A i gets me down... 😢
I get what you're saying Tom, unfortunately, A.I. is now a thing that is not going away.