@@ixography Myslím si že ta moonlightka jak bere více světla že je na tom prostě líp i s ostrostí. každopádně na O3 se dá nastavit ostrost ale furt to asi nebude takové..Moonlightka se mi libi dost ale na WS se mi přecházet nechce každy v okolí má nějaké trable :D
I just got into the Goggles 3 after leaving the Goggles X. The only downside I've felt with DJI is that the lowlight is terrible compared to Walksnail.
Thanks for this video. Doing all the flights at the same time in the same place was very helpful. It gave me a lot of the information I was looking for. I'm really impressed with the video quality of the Walksnail goggles L.
Yes I will contact them! Maybe the newer versions are better but to be honest I still feel they are performing really well in 99% of the real life scenarios 😀
Nice test with a lot of case. But at your next video can you study for a more signal challenging path because your bitrate are very high for the most part. For example : -behind the white structure at 3:19 -behind the bando at the right 33:49 -Fly a path at low altitude
Thanks for test! I have 4 patches on Goggles X and Im so mad with its range and penetration compared to my analog... Havent tested DJI but its getting me crazy. BTW have you switched channel on goggles L? Usualy after switching from 25 to 50mbit I have to manualy change channel or it will be still on 25mbit (which is somehow much better than 50mbit) Edit: oh I didnt noticed that seccond flight with L was 50mbit. SonI have no clue:p my GX sucks, maybe yours too:D
I think I have an explanation for your issue. From what I 've seen on other channels, the Goggles X is not stable at 1200mw power, yet. The optimal power output is 700mw, and you get the best signal possible. Caddx is working on the more powerful modes, and will patch it when they are stable.
My Recon HD fatshark work very well, and I see that this Goggle L work also very well. And my GX have a bad video link like you, I don't know why. Very goog video, interesting test bench, I love your works.
well but for real life flying it is not limiting at all as you never push the system this far anyway when you fly for clients or even freestyle as you have seen even elrs had a failsafe so yes sure if you go 1w on elrs but lot of remotes go to 250mw anyway and even that is not legal :D
I have them, it works straight out of the box. You get the 5 pin 3.5mm to 4 pin 3.5 audio connector with the goggles, so you just plug in the 5 pin to the goggles and 4 pin to the sognal from your analog receiver. To enter the analog mode hold the return button for 5 seconds and that is that.
I just started to get into fpv and I did the simulations, it is very difficult to fly, these people who are doing all these tricks have really been flying for years omg!!!
Im owner of walksnail VRX module, and the stock antenas was actually garbage. After updating stock stub antenas and patch antenas it is pretty good, but this upgrade cost me almost a half of VRX price(VAS patch antenas and rush cherry v2 omni antenas). And now walksnail releases new pretty cheap goggles, and the stock antenas are exceptionaly good there. Which is a little weird to me.
Alot of people on the caddex forum say put spacers between the heatsink and the board something with the heat is interfering with the signal idk if its the updated heatsink on goggles x the goggles l antennas are maple antennas i think
I was told that to see an improvement with the dji goggles and true rc antennas you need to put LHCP antennas on the 03 air unit also. I haven’t gotten a chance to test that yet but I can say my range to my vista’s has improved since putting the true rc lhcp patch antennas on my G2. Which would make sense since the vista’s come with lhcp antennas.
So after selling my goggles 2 I went with goggles X (because I fly some analog as well) and on day 2 the extension board made my foxeer wildfire dead. I vouched for walksnail and they totally disappointed me. I dont know if it was the goggles, it was the expansion module or what, but it messed it up. Lost my trust. Dji is weird, but atleast they have more refined stuff.
i dont think anyone is surprised that the dji is substantially better in quality and penetration. Dji has always been ahead of the game. In a few weeks the 04 will only step it up again.
But walksnail announced a new product too. There were rumours, that caddx is working on a 4k transmission system. I dont know if that is true, but if they release a 4k transmission system, DJI is cooked.
@ixography fair enough. I fly my helion up mountains. I've done 5km each way on 03 air unit and that's far enough for me. Other than that I fly 3-5" quads so I don't need anything other than a good image. All these other hd protocols are always behind dji. It's just the way it is. The biggest difference is dji stuff just works and support is good. You don't get that with company's like caddx that promise stuff and never deliver or have hardware issues and poor manufacturing. You get what you pay for which is why dji is more expensive and delivering a far superior product.
@@mplouis yeah I've heard all this for years. It's always the same thing. It used to be that fatshark was "gonna" have a massive update and it was gonna easily beat dji. Then it was orqa are releasing some amazing hd product which again never happened. Then there was hdzero which also never happened. Now it's caddx and I bet you it won't happen again. These companies are drop in the ocean compared to the research and development budget available to dji. They just can't compete and it will likely stay like this for many more years. Yeah it's good to have competition but these companies will always be a step behind. I get that people hope that something will come along and be amazing but the fact is that the technology is extremely difficult and expensive to develop. I'm pretty sure djis next gen 04 air unit have a single board 30x30 air unit and a full size capable of 15ms in race mode and improved video quality again. How are these others going to keep up with that?
What do you recommend for best Goggles DVR, the moonlight or gt? The GT has really good penetration and the pro camera but the moonlight is well the moonlight. I only care about goggles dvr while flying.
@@ixography Yeah they are the same camera. I am just looking for the best possible goggles DVR, I looked at your older video comparing o3 to the pro kit, and pro kit looks much worst compared to moonlight in this video. Did they update it or something? What's your take, between moonlight and pro camera, does moonlight look better in goggles dvr (except in low light, on which pro looks better.) Thanks a lot!
@@ixography That's good to know! Did WS update how Pro Kit camera looks on goggles DVR? Your older video with Pro kit looks a lot worst than this video with moonlight. I am guessing they updated software which makes the Pro Kit look better?
Looking at the Bitrate and the Latency.. may be we're seeing some of the newer tech Caddx talked about in the Goggles L..? Im waiting on my Goggles X bit gutted really...
Well it is actually possible. If felt the goggles L felt a lot better and I felt no stutters . But as I have one of the earliest pre release goggles it could be the newer goggles X are updated too
Well I don't think caddx will replace my goggles or maybe they will but they will ask me to send the ones I have in and I don't really want to do that for 8mbps 😀 so probably not and I have 4 walksnail drones and I think that is more than enough at this point
I don't like goggles X so much :(, I had never had as uncomfortable goggles. I had to print new face plate, new foam. New antennas are needed as well, I bought truerx X2 (2X) and truerc stubby (2x), byt still I don't have as good range as my friend with O3 + integra with stock antennas. I was a big fan of walksnail, I have plenty of trasmiters, GX VTX, moonlights, 1s, plenty of V2 VTXs, GT3 gimbal, VRX module and goggles X :(. I like that walksnail listen comunity but still they need a guy like Jobs was. Walksnail creates new products, and intead of make product better, they create new one.
Let us know what caddx will say about that strange signal on X I’m using both systems as well just interesting what will be the answer My gX acting same
I'm a Walksnail user but that DJi picture - wow, just wow
Yes it looks nice indeed, but walksnail is sharper imo
But I can't wait for O4 as dji avata 2 video in goggles looks sooo much better
@@ixography Myslím si že ta moonlightka jak bere více světla že je na tom prostě líp i s ostrostí. každopádně na O3 se dá nastavit ostrost ale furt to asi nebude takové..Moonlightka se mi libi dost ale na WS se mi přecházet nechce každy v okolí má nějaké trable :D
@@Maskyn97 mas dji tak neries walksnail :D
@@ixography O3 neni tak dobrá do tmy a horsiho svetla.. bohuzel :D
I just got into the Goggles 3 after leaving the Goggles X. The only downside I've felt with DJI is that the lowlight is terrible compared to Walksnail.
Yes I have both and walksnail for low light
Thanks for this video. Doing all the flights at the same time in the same place was very helpful. It gave me a lot of the information I was looking for. I'm really impressed with the video quality of the Walksnail goggles L.
Glad it helped mate! Yes me too
Great review, thanks a lot ! Would be great to have the test with the patch antenna + true RC on the goggles X :D
You mean the walksnail patch?
And thanks!
Very interesting test. I like watching the things like this. Still in the process of deciding what I should buy.
Thanks! Already decided?😀
solid thorough range test thanks!
no problem glad it helped
Nice video. This is the stuff I like
Thanks! Happy you liked it😀👌🏼
How about a long distance test with the goggles L and X against dji
I could do that soon although I don't feel comfortable going so far the signal goes low
Interesting test, and incfedible cool spot to fly 🤩
Thanks! And yes the spot is way too cool
I'd like to see comparison between new and old X's. In case you get some updates from caddx make sure to upload a vid 😉
Yes I will contact them! Maybe the newer versions are better but to be honest I still feel they are performing really well in 99% of the real life scenarios 😀
2:04 you need to put 2 files from caddx into the SD card to be able to set the bitrate to high and "unlock" more mW. Did you do that?
Yes I did but if you notice on the next flights I have 50mbps it was the channel that didn't allow me to have more than 25 somehow 😀
@ixography Ah. I didnt know this. I am only allowed to fly on 25mW and channel 1,5,6,7 in my country.
@ isn't everyone?🤣
GOOD and honest content bro thanks i smashed the sub
Thanks bro!
Nice test with a lot of case. But at your next video can you study for a more signal challenging path because your bitrate are very high for the most part.
For example :
-behind the white structure at 3:19
-behind the bando at the right 33:49
-Fly a path at low altitude
well sure I can look for some other spot to do this and keep this in mind
@@ixography Thank you. I like your versus video.
Thanks for test! I have 4 patches on Goggles X and Im so mad with its range and penetration compared to my analog... Havent tested DJI but its getting me crazy.
BTW have you switched channel on goggles L? Usualy after switching from 25 to 50mbit I have to manualy change channel or it will be still on 25mbit (which is somehow much better than 50mbit)
Edit: oh I didnt noticed that seccond flight with L was 50mbit. SonI have no clue:p my GX sucks, maybe yours too:D
Yeah there is definitely something wrong with mine too
I think I have an explanation for your issue. From what I 've seen on other channels, the Goggles X is not stable at 1200mw power, yet. The optimal power output is 700mw, and you get the best signal possible. Caddx is working on the more powerful modes, and will patch it when they are stable.
I should try that, thanks for the tips
Hi, thank for this good test, Bro
You are welcome 🫶🏼
@@ixography Thank you Bro 😉
My Recon HD fatshark work very well, and I see that this Goggle L work also very well. And my GX have a bad video link like you, I don't know why.
Very goog video, interesting test bench, I love your works.
yeah they do
Fascinating test. Seems like WS messed up badly with the GogglesX. Be interesting to see how the V1 goggles would perform at this location.
well but for real life flying it is not limiting at all as you never push the system this far anyway when you fly for clients or even freestyle as you have seen even elrs had a failsafe so yes sure if you go 1w on elrs but lot of remotes go to 250mw anyway and even that is not legal :D
I am surprised by this result of L goggles
Exactly me too
think sometimes ever a reboot or changing channels will then apply the 50mbs, still watching your video, thank you for the upload
Yes exactly it was the channel 😀 found it out later! Thank you
I just started watching, stoked to see the results. Immediately jumping to my PC to watch in full rez 👌
Awesome! Hope you will like it! Thank you so much for your support it helps a lot
To create more 🫶🏼
Hello, is analog with goggle X work good now ? Hesitating btw hdzero and goggle x
Hey, I have no idea I never tried
I have them, it works straight out of the box. You get the 5 pin 3.5mm to 4 pin 3.5 audio connector with the goggles, so you just plug in the 5 pin to the goggles and 4 pin to the sognal from your analog receiver. To enter the analog mode hold the return button for 5 seconds and that is that.
I just started to get into fpv and I did the simulations, it is very difficult to fly, these people who are doing all these tricks have really been flying for years omg!!!
Yeah just practice😀
Im owner of walksnail VRX module, and the stock antenas was actually garbage. After updating stock stub antenas and patch antenas it is pretty good, but this upgrade cost me almost a half of VRX price(VAS patch antenas and rush cherry v2 omni antenas).
And now walksnail releases new pretty cheap goggles, and the stock antenas are exceptionaly good there. Which is a little weird to me.
Well indeed, I also don't really get it but maybe the newer goggles X will have a better range. And maybe just mine are not completely okay
Alot of people on the caddex forum say put spacers between the heatsink and the board something with the heat is interfering with the signal idk if its the updated heatsink on goggles x the goggles l antennas are maple antennas i think
Hmm I never opened mine so there is not heatsink at all, they never overheated tbh
I notice 25mbps is always smoother than 50mbps, i get stutters at 50mbps too
Hmm could be I should try that
I was told that to see an improvement with the dji goggles and true rc antennas you need to put LHCP antennas on the 03 air unit also. I haven’t gotten a chance to test that yet but I can say my range to my vista’s has improved since putting the true rc lhcp patch antennas on my G2. Which would make sense since the vista’s come with lhcp antennas.
Well I have lhcp on my drone so idk
So after selling my goggles 2 I went with goggles X (because I fly some analog as well) and on day 2 the extension board made my foxeer wildfire dead. I vouched for walksnail and they totally disappointed me. I dont know if it was the goggles, it was the expansion module or what, but it messed it up. Lost my trust. Dji is weird, but atleast they have more refined stuff.
I have 0 experience with analog so I would not know tbh
I would not be surprised if Google L has a better signal than Google X
Yes well they are newer so they probably did more testing too. I have pre release goggles.
Why? I'm currently running GV2. Looking for another Goggles between upcoming O4 and WS ecosystem.
@@serang the newer version should be better I have the first pre release goggles. So they fixed
The newer versions.
i dont think anyone is surprised that the dji is substantially better in quality and penetration. Dji has always been ahead of the game. In a few weeks the 04 will only step it up again.
Well for long range walksnail is better . In open space with LOS and when you mountain dive walksnail wins by miles
But walksnail announced a new product too. There were rumours, that caddx is working on a 4k transmission system. I dont know if that is true, but if they release a 4k transmission system, DJI is cooked.
@ixography fair enough. I fly my helion up mountains. I've done 5km each way on 03 air unit and that's far enough for me. Other than that I fly 3-5" quads so I don't need anything other than a good image. All these other hd protocols are always behind dji. It's just the way it is. The biggest difference is dji stuff just works and support is good. You don't get that with company's like caddx that promise stuff and never deliver or have hardware issues and poor manufacturing. You get what you pay for which is why dji is more expensive and delivering a far superior product.
@@mplouis yeah I've heard all this for years. It's always the same thing. It used to be that fatshark was "gonna" have a massive update and it was gonna easily beat dji. Then it was orqa are releasing some amazing hd product which again never happened. Then there was hdzero which also never happened. Now it's caddx and I bet you it won't happen again. These companies are drop in the ocean compared to the research and development budget available to dji. They just can't compete and it will likely stay like this for many more years. Yeah it's good to have competition but these companies will always be a step behind. I get that people hope that something will come along and be amazing but the fact is that the technology is extremely difficult and expensive to develop. I'm pretty sure djis next gen 04 air unit have a single board 30x30 air unit and a full size capable of 15ms in race mode and improved video quality again. How are these others going to keep up with that?
@@mplouisYeah...that was announced for September.
Uhh wow!! Walksnail suprisingly made Goggles L better than X 😮
The footage from the moonlight looks a lil bit over saturated compared to the O3.
yes it is weird but nice haha, and yes a little bit and O3 is more contrasty
Move the path antennas in Google X from the upper connections to the lower ones. Range should improve and timings should decrease.
No that is not correct they should be like this
What do you recommend for best Goggles DVR, the moonlight or gt? The GT has really good penetration and the pro camera but the moonlight is well the moonlight. I only care about goggles dvr while flying.
Well imo the pro kit for the lowlight but it depends what camera you pair it with I guess the GT and Pro Kit have the same one in the box?
@@ixography Yeah they are the same camera. I am just looking for the best possible goggles DVR, I looked at your older video comparing o3 to the pro kit, and pro kit looks much worst compared to moonlight in this video. Did they update it or something? What's your take, between moonlight and pro camera, does moonlight look better in goggles dvr (except in low light, on which pro looks better.) Thanks a lot!
@ look the same too me. Pro kit looks better cause the low light is better than moonlight
@@ixography That's good to know! Did WS update how Pro Kit camera looks on goggles DVR? Your older video with Pro kit looks a lot worst than this video with moonlight. I am guessing they updated software which makes the Pro Kit look better?
@ I have no clue bro
Which font are you using. For the Google l/x mine wont work properly😥
I will look into it and send it to you
Looking at the Bitrate and the Latency.. may be we're seeing some of the newer tech Caddx talked about in the Goggles L..? Im waiting on my Goggles X bit gutted really...
Well it is actually possible. If felt the goggles L felt a lot better and I felt no stutters . But as I have one of the earliest pre release goggles it could be the newer goggles X are updated too
According to Walksnail wiki goggles L have two 7dBi patch antennas, that explains good performance.
@@ixography Just watched a fixed wing review where the pilot had way better results with the Goggles X on 25mb. May be something to try?
@ yeah I can try that indeed
Will you try the GT Kit and different X goggles?
Well I don't think caddx will replace my goggles or maybe they will but they will ask me to send the ones I have in and I don't really want to do that for 8mbps 😀 so probably not and I have 4 walksnail drones and I think that is more than enough at this point
I have both. Walksnail Cons: price, products compability. Cons: product quality, bugs, poor support/software, overheating. DJI Pros: stability and quality, support/sowtfare Cons: price, poor compability
I agree completely with you!
looks like the latency is higher with the goggles X at 45ms and with the goggles L it was on 37 and more stable
Yes indeed, noticed that too, could have been also cause I had the drone plugged in for longer and the unit was hot but idk it's still weird
I don't like goggles X so much :(, I had never had as uncomfortable goggles. I had to print new face plate, new foam. New antennas are needed as well, I bought truerx X2 (2X) and truerc stubby (2x), byt still I don't have as good range as my friend with O3 + integra with stock antennas. I was a big fan of walksnail, I have plenty of trasmiters, GX VTX, moonlights, 1s, plenty of V2 VTXs, GT3 gimbal, VRX module and goggles X :(. I like that walksnail listen comunity but still they need a guy like Jobs was. Walksnail creates new products, and intead of make product better, they create new one.
Let us know what caddx will say about that strange signal on X
I’m using both systems as well just interesting what will be the answer
My gX acting same
Yes will send it to support 👌🏼
Worth it to spend more money un goggles x?
For the formfactor yes, could be mine are just defective
So what we're seeing here is what you're actually seeing through the goggles right?
Yes indeed it's dvr from the goggles
Try with 1000mW instead of 1200mW. Weirdo, but I have better signal with that... :O :/
Alright! Will do next time!
paradni misto, bryle za tu cenu perfektni jsem prekvapen jak to maka s moonlightem
hej hej je to bomba miesta a presne aj ja jedine by bolo lepsie keby lepsie drzali na tvar lebo mam pocit ze padaju trosku z nosa
@@ixography ja hledam krtky pro me akorat tedy 😅
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