Incredible car with amazing quality, amazing tech, and the ability to battery swap! The swapping is underrated. You can always make sure you have a healthy battery and healthy car.
The main problem is the economic viability of this system. NIO has made losses of $827million USD in Q3 23 and $647million in Q2 23, and the losses are getting bigger each quarter. It should be that the more cars they sell the less the charger swap network costs per car but Q3 they made $60 million profit on cars but spent $887million on the swap network and admin, that is unsustainable even with the backing of the CCP.
@@TB-up4xi they are building out their infrastructure early on, just like Amazon did when building out their warehouses and people were telling them they were crazy and burning too much money. It’s called having foresight. Their tech is spot on and their sub brands are on the way a $20,000 EV that can swap it’s battery is going to be revolutionary.
If they cannot make it then yes, if they can it offers a lot of possibilities. Of course charging times are going up but also how good is that for a battery and what with the grid going forward, EVs will not destroy the grid but massive investments are needed if we want to have a lot of fast charging. Battery swap offers a lot of possibilities like you ciuld use a cheaper smaller battery when you are driving in a city abd when you gave to drive long distance you temporarily swap it to big battery maybe. Also you can charge them slowly at night and offset peak fast charging that will also be a thing at holidays etc. when masses of people go somewhere
...and so is the price with a much worse efficiency. I think they are very different cars with a different target audience. EL6 is more beautiful and better quality. Would I pay 20k extra for that? probably not; but surely some people will. (I have a model Y)
My explanation for why the EL6 is cheaper than the Tesla Model Y. I think the correct comparison is Tesla Model y Performance, because there is a difference of less than 0.3 second in real acceleration. But for the sake of the example we will be conservative and choose the long range version which is hard to call sporty but not terrible. So we chose the long range, 20 inch rims, the most beautiful color of nio is standard, so we will also add white color, now we come to autonomous driving, which is standard for nio, (in fact nio has twice as many sensors) so we will add full autonomous driving , and the final price is 66 thousand euros. Only a guarantee that your battery will forever be in the maximum state of health, 150 kilowatts of free electricity, two swaps, and that the vehicle is really ready for autonomy and you don't need to connect it to an outlet every so often. Only this is worth 170 euros per month, so the rally price is 52 thousand euros, but then we have a problem, the range of the y long range model is 533 kilometers, while the range of the nio is 406 kilometers, (for the sake of conservatism I will ignore the fact that the real range of the nio closer to the WLTP range than Tesla) because the nio has upgrades on a daily basis it turns out that you need the larger battery less than 20 percent of the time, and with battery swap, 80 percent of the time with this large battery is saved, therefore, the price of the larger battery must be added to the price Less the price of the smaller battery divided by five. So 21 minus 12 equals 9 divided by five gives 1.8, rounded up to two thousand euros. So, it turns out that the price of the equivalent version is 54 thousand euros compared to 66 thousand euros with Tesla. Except that they are not really parallel because nio is much better.
Thank you for this very clear, detailed and absolutely awsome review. You have quickly become one of my favourite BEV reviewer. Also look smart in that jacket, perfectly matching the colour of the car.
Really really love this EL6. Would be my perfect EV SUV. Hope NIO can solve SW issues like ''reset trips and kWh/100km counter'' and improve powertrain efficiency :) Greetings from Barcelona !!! 😇
The vehicle is actually relatively efficient compared to an electric vehicle as wide and tall as this one, and the difference from the WLTP was only 5 percent at 80 km/h, Which is much closer to the WLTP range compared to Tesla. This problem is almost certain to be fixed with a software update.
One of the best reviews of the EL6 that I found on YT. Despite the short time that you had with the vehicle, very informative, learned many new things and nice to understand the differences compared to the original EL6. Great location enhanced by the nice video quality and drone shots. Last but not least, enjoyable and to-the-point presentation. Agree with your conclusion that this EL6 will become the top seller for NIO in Europe. NIO houses and lifestyle is a funky way to attract new customers, but I wouldn't use it much if I bought one.. Tack from Germany! :-)
VERY good (initial) review; thank you! I will take delivery of my top-spec EL6 in a few weeks, and I really wanted this review to be positive, which it definately is :-) I agree on the side-support in the seats (I sat in a pre-production EL6 a while back), but I hope all the other positive sides will eventually weigh up for that :-)
Drivers seat can be adjusted on the seat base button for thigh support length, agree on lack of side support, if driven hard you would need to hang on to the steering wheel to stop sliding around. Only 4 days since living with my new ES6 but so far very pleased with it. Your comments on ride firmness are very useful, I am running in comfort setting since I picked it up and on certain surfaces it does feel a bit like a boat the way it floats, it tends to make my wife travel sick, first thing tomorrow I will go for a stiffer setting.
Great review, amazing production quality, this channel really deserves more subscribers. As a foreigner living in China it's nice to get some English reviews of this car and this has confirmed my choice to buy this car.
@@ItsOnlyElectric We went for the ES8, for me it was the clear winner vs everything else available with 6/7 seats here in China. The new ES8 also feels like a huge upgrade compared to the old one.
The OUTSIDE camera footage is EXCELLENT. Now we can see the houses, people, streets, shops, fields, etc...Exciting video...MORE MORE...Lets see people STARING at NIO
Great review and great car in a fantastic environment. The only pending subject for Nio is the efficiency. I am of the opinion that this cars almost competes with cars like Mercedes EQE suv or BMW ix rather than Tesla model Y . Btw, how does NiO pilot conpares to Tesla standard Aitopilot? Regards from beautiful Bavaria
Nice, really jealous of that nature of yours!!! I have been testing Nio pilot a lot lately and must say that it's on par with an in some cases better than the Standard autopilot on the Tesla. But there are probably cases I haven't tested yet that's lacking. Overall impressed though. And you are right, it competes with EQE SUV, BMW IX, Q8 Etron and Xpeng G9 rather than Model Y.
I live in Florida US and I agree with you 100% on NIO House and all that goes with that...I hope NIO learns that early so they don't waste too much money on that stuff...Just because 2 people buy the same brand of car why does that mean we would want to hang out with each other?...Maybe it's a chinese thing and works there so ok but they're going to have a hard time selling that across the globe...I really hope NIO comes to the US soon because it's the only EV I'll buy...I'm all about battery swap...
My explanation for why the EL6 is cheaper than the Tesla Model Y. I think the correct comparison is Tesla Model y Performance, because there is a difference of less than 0.3 second in real acceleration. But for the sake of the example we will be conservative and choose the long range version which is hard to call sporty but not terrible. So we chose the long range, 20 inch rims, the most beautiful color of nio is standard, so we will also add white color, now we come to autonomous driving, which is standard for nio, (in fact nio has twice as many sensors) so we will add full autonomous driving , and the final price is 66 thousand euros. Only a guarantee that your battery will forever be in the maximum state of health, 150 kilowatts of free electricity, two swaps, and that the vehicle is really ready for autonomy and you don't need to connect it to an outlet every so often. Only this is worth 170 euros per month, so the rally price is 52 thousand euros, but then we have a problem, the range of the y long range model is 533 kilometers, while the range of the nio is 406 kilometers, (for the sake of conservatism I will ignore the fact that the real range of the nio closer to the WLTP range than Tesla) because the nio has upgrades on a daily basis it turns out that you need the larger battery less than 20 percent of the time, and with battery swap, 80 percent of the time with this large battery is saved, therefore, the price of the larger battery must be added to the price Less the price of the smaller battery divided by five. So 21 minus 12 equals 9 divided by five gives 1.8, rounded up to two thousand euros. So, it turns out that the price of the equivalent version is 54 thousand euros compared to 66 thousand euros with Tesla. Except that they are not really parallel because nio is much better.
But for the same reason, above price calculation could be argued A Tesla model Y long range with 75kw battery has only marginal worse performance and same range as a NIO EL6 with 100kw battery. Tesla Standard Autopilot is good enough to spend an extra penny on FSD that doesn't add much. In this case, Tesla is ca. 20k eur cheaper. I'm not saying Tesla is better, but it's clearly cheaper. NIO EL6 belongs to a higher class for it's quality and dimensions . No doubt
Love your reviews. Calm and collected. You focus on whats important and not stupid gimmics. I really value your opinions when im now looking for a new ev. Keep it up! 👌
Lenovo/NIO with their innovative battery swapping stations around Asia and Europe faster than fast charging and NIO EP9 was world's fastest fully autonomous EV in 2017, then BYD, Xiaomi, Dongfeng, Hongqi, Huawei and so on.. Seriously China is way ahead than the rest of the world. Don't be surprised many designers of already established brands in Europe has migrated to Chinese brands including head designers team of Rolls Royce to Hongqi, etc.
There is a button for the thigh support. You push the metallic part of the front most button. There are small marks on it, but its far from obvious. I'm not surprised you missed it. Maybe not the best design there. 😅
Actually that is the problem with NIO, priced higher than a BMW (like for like) but is a new Chinese brand, 639k Kr + 3k Kr a month or +240k Kr if you want a 100kWh battery = 879k kr v 669k Model 3 LR or 699k iX3.
@TB-up4xi get your point, price is set high for a new brand. But I would compare it to the BMW IX xdrive 50 or the EQE SUV, then it's cheaper for similar space, performance and comfort.
I prefer the updated seats in the model y, EQE, bmw I4 etc. But not to forget, the EL6 has an amazing massage built-in to the seats! They are def not bad and the best seats from Nio yet.
10!.. question, is it possible to update the software of the operating system? Great review! Fully agree with the NIO houses, in EU i do not think we are that Social o we need that part of NIO
This is a bigger car..the biggest difference is the driving comfort. The Fisker feels sportier, like the model y whilst el6 more to the comfortable side
I really like my Model y, but to be honest it's always tempting to change car. And to be honest this one of few cars that I think is a real alternative for me. So time will tell!
@@ItsOnlyElectric Please do it! You could be one of the very few European reviewers reviewing a NIO long-term. There's lots of potential clicks and views to be had there. On the other hand, Tesla has really become OLD news.
First of all fantastic video! But I do miss a direct comparison with the competitors, yes you talked about the advantages and disadvantages of it against the y model, but I would be happy for an in-depth head-to-head comparison, maybe even a separate video that only talks about the product against its competition, because in the end that is the thing that most affects The choice of which vehicle to purchase.
Thanks for the review. Do you know about, or do you have a price comparison sheet (excel or so) about the variants, the 3 purchasing options and timeline (eg 5,6,10,12 years) based on a certain reference use in km’s?
Hope you get to test a production ready version of the Xpeng G9 also soon, to compare with this 😎 What I don't like with the G9 is very low payload and the passenger seat, other than that, this Nio better be really good to beat it, imo.
Really nice review, as always! There is also much to like about G9, for sure, but compared to EL6, it lacks some important features for me such as: matrix led, head up, 40/20/40 backseats and a sunroof, doesn't it? My choice, after driven both, and considering the price point i Norway, would definitely be EL6. The interior in the G9 looks good, and feels 95 % good, but I can't stand the piano black and the "thin silver" on the steering wheel. The G9 is already facelifted (small one) in China, maybe they've sorted those things out?
Yea, I would also really like matrix on the G9 also, but at least it have very good light, even though no matrix/ pixel functionality. Headup, meh, I haven't tested the car yet, but have tested a few other with headup that hasn't impressed me at all. It might be good on the EL6 though, I can't say yet. Had cars before with sunroof that I only opened a few time 'for fun'/ show, but don't see the big thing about it. What I think I'm really going to appreciate, at least on longer roadtrips, are the passenger screen you get in G9. It's a shame really that Nio doesn't have one. Also G9 has a bit more space, like the frunk, which is very practical on roadtrips. More towing weight, but still to bad it doesn't have even more, they both should have, being they both are pretty large and very powerful. G9 looks to be more efficient and very fast charging. Battery swap could be great in time, depending on where you drive, but for now I would rather choose faster charging. Even though the suspension on the EL6 is good, it doesn't have air-suspension, and it's a bit more noisy (from what I have read/ heard, but I guess we will see some more comparison between the two soon). And 7 year warranty on the G9 vs 5 on EL6. Piano black surfaces is easy to fix with some wrap 😉So I don't know, they are both candidates for me still.
I like your comment, and reasoning! It's lots of pros, and maybe just a couple of small cons, with these two, and it really is a customers market, with alot to choose from, and I'm just glad not everybody is getting in line to get more Y's, ID.4's and e-trons 😉 (nothing wrong with them, but a bit more diversity wouldn't hurt)
If you drove a NIO, its the best EV. The preformance with the class and quality. Hard to beat, and if you are based near a battery swap, then you know what i am talking about. The service world class.
Great review. Well done. Could I ask how much this car will cost in Europe? I'm in Ireland which always tends to be well above European average so I'm expecting to be priced out of this car. Unfortunately.
Thank you! :) Not available on Irland yet unfortunately. Price starting from 639k SEK (Sweden) / 54k Eur (germany). Thsts without the battery. Talking about the price and pricing model around 30 minutes in..
Also you mentioned the screen is not designed for movies...exactly...NIO GLASSES are design for movies. I don't know if they are available outside China but in China you can sit in the back seat on a road trip wearing a pair of NIO GLASSES that are some kind of VR emergence that gives your eyes its own cinema screen.
I have nausea in general when I watch movies while traveling. But since the seats are comfortable, it is also possible to do movie night even when not traveling.
I have Netflix and a big horizontally aligned screen in my Tesla and on top of that amazing sound. I'm dreaming about watching movies in the car, but it never happens. 😂😂
By the way, if anyone happen to fly through Munich and would like to see and touch NIO EL6 and ET5 wagon, they are shown at Munich airport at the outdoor space between terminals 1 and 2 between
Though question!! Today: 1. Fisker 2. Model Y 3. Audi Depending on the looks of the updated model Y I may choose the Model Y over the Fisker. 1. New Model Y 2. Fisker 3. Audi
@@ItsOnlyElectric I don’t have a Model Y. Like the interior of the EL6, looks of the Ocean and the complete package (and network) of the Model Y… difficult choices…
I think the NIO houses will be good for some people, to go to NIO events or chill or do business and while the children play in their area. I would probably go a few times a year to the cafe and use a swap station if they have one, because I live a fair way from the city, but I would probably do other events like touring holiday or a concert.
I am in China and I can tell you why Nio house is working here. Nio house usually organize some family activities and arrange some group travel for Nio owner's during national holidays or weekends. Chinese Owners are si much enjoy that and Nio fellows are full supporting that. which makes an loyal inner circle for the Nio life's.😊 but first thing comes first. your city needs a basic quantity of Nio user somewhere arounds 500 owner I assume.
Thanks for sharing. I guess it also cooks down to culture and living patterns..big parts of Europe don't have that usage pattern. Maybe it will change with enough users. Future will tell 🙂
@@ItsOnlyElectric I already was in Düsseldorf and Frankfurt. There were some people that met or did some work/studying. Even if you don't own a NIO you can hang out there. It is definitely worth a visit while in town or if they have an event like some evening music. I like the idea to be able to go somewhere to hang out weather it is planned or not. I wouldn't overdo it but from time to time it is a nice addition.
Nio seems to address this by cutting costs and making the company more efficient. Rumors say that a fighting sub brand in the shape of more affordable EVs is under the making, for selling higher volumes. Not sure when or on what markets. Heard anything about it?
@@ItsOnlyElectric Not sure if you’re aware but NIO announced in Dec last year that they’re upgrading/introducing the latest charging station to new ultra fast charging output with 500kW maximum power at 650A current. Similarly other EV brands such as Li Auto, GAC, Geely are also rolling out their own ultra fast charging points in China. Since March 2023 there are already 600kw changing points being built near Shenzhen. All indications point to the latest CATL Shenxing (LFP) battery is capable of delivering 400 km of driving range with a 10-minute charge, which will be fitted to NIO and a number of other EV makers. Although there are no further details about the CATL Shenxing battery. I think we just need to wait few more months or 1-2 yrs for Sweden. Lol.
@@tani123 Battery swapping is still a good ideal for ppl whose NIO cars are on old battery but wish to swap the newer ones, which can be appealing for some consumers. Although from a production cost point of view the possibility of battery swapping will potentially cost NIO cars much more than the competitors i.e. Tesla.
@@ItsOnlyElectric good to know^^ also a other question: if regen is set to very low, can you coast and when pressing the brakes it regen first whats max possible and then uses friction brakes?
@@ItsOnlyElectric thanks^^ sadly cant test myself yet as nio isnt avaible in switzerland yet. drive to münchen just to testdrive is expensive in time^^ but if it first regen then its amazing, because i love that on the fiat 500e ^^
The regulated sounds goes for all brands but it's new for 2024 models. The Asian beepings are for the general aid systems especially for distraction monitoring and land keeping assistance
Let's hope that the part of the Nio ecosystem that disappears is the f*cking beeping! I would buy this car yesterday if they make a quick setting to turn off all sounds. Isn't a visual warning on the instument cluster enough to satisfy the EU regulations?
Unfortunately visual warnings are mandatory in the eu regulation case. So other brands gas the same beefing. But would be good to be able to be able to permanently turn of nios other beeping functions in an easier way. Maybe possible to add a shortcut for that, didn't try that.
The Chinese EV maker Nio has hired senior designers from Jaguar Land Rover and Volkswagen Group as it seeks to expand its product offerings and enter the European market. Joaquin Garcia becomes a senior design director at Nio's Munich design studio after almost six years at VW Group's Seat and another five at Skoda. Jaguar Land Rover's Alister Whelan has also been named a senior design director at the Munich studio after 21 years at the UK automaker. Both executives started their new positions Oct. 1 and report to Nio design director Kris Tomasson. Thats why Nio looks so good and Bavarian.
Dude it's you again! Your English is horrible LOL.... The EL6 looks so nice but I still prefer the look of the ET5T. Thanks again for putting all your EV content. I've learned a lot listening to your videos.
Rate the EL6 1 to 10! 👇👇
8
I would say 9, looks great. Would be 10 with better efficiency
Fantastica 10!
9 looks good and nice quality
I owned an ES6 of the previous generation and it’s fantastic for its comfort and premium service . So I would rate it a 10 for this new one .
Incredible car with amazing quality, amazing tech, and the ability to battery swap! The swapping is underrated. You can always make sure you have a healthy battery and healthy car.
The main problem is the economic viability of this system. NIO has made losses of $827million USD in Q3 23 and $647million in Q2 23, and the losses are getting bigger each quarter.
It should be that the more cars they sell the less the charger swap network costs per car but Q3 they made $60 million profit on cars but spent $887million on the swap network and admin, that is unsustainable even with the backing of the CCP.
@@TB-up4xi they are building out their infrastructure early on, just like Amazon did when building out their warehouses and people were telling them they were crazy and burning too much money. It’s called having foresight. Their tech is spot on and their sub brands are on the way a $20,000 EV that can swap it’s battery is going to be revolutionary.
@@TB-up4xi long live CPC
If they cannot make it then yes, if they can it offers a lot of possibilities. Of course charging times are going up but also how good is that for a battery and what with the grid going forward, EVs will not destroy the grid but massive investments are needed if we want to have a lot of fast charging. Battery swap offers a lot of possibilities like you ciuld use a cheaper smaller battery when you are driving in a city abd when you gave to drive long distance you temporarily swap it to big battery maybe. Also you can charge them slowly at night and offset peak fast charging that will also be a thing at holidays etc. when masses of people go somewhere
Impressive car! Quality seems stellar for its category! Also software package seems to be up with the best.
Yes, seems to be a nice package overall
This car looks way way better than the Model Y from Tesla.
Quality is much higher too.
...and so is the price with a much worse efficiency.
I think they are very different cars with a different target audience.
EL6 is more beautiful and better quality. Would I pay 20k extra for that? probably not; but surely some people will.
(I have a model Y)
Also a much bigger car in most aspects.
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My explanation for why the EL6 is cheaper than the Tesla Model Y. I think the correct comparison is Tesla Model y Performance, because there is a difference of less than 0.3 second in real acceleration. But for the sake of the example we will be conservative and choose the long range version which is hard to call sporty but not terrible. So we chose the long range, 20 inch rims, the most beautiful color of nio is standard, so we will also add white color, now we come to autonomous driving, which is standard for nio, (in fact nio has twice as many sensors) so we will add full autonomous driving , and the final price is 66 thousand euros. Only a guarantee that your battery will forever be in the maximum state of health, 150 kilowatts of free electricity, two swaps, and that the vehicle is really ready for autonomy and you don't need to connect it to an outlet every so often. Only this is worth 170 euros per month, so the rally price is 52 thousand euros, but then we have a problem, the range of the y long range model is 533 kilometers, while the range of the nio is 406 kilometers, (for the sake of conservatism I will ignore the fact that the real range of the nio closer to the WLTP range than Tesla) because the nio has upgrades on a daily basis it turns out that you need the larger battery less than 20 percent of the time, and with battery swap, 80 percent of the time with this large battery is saved, therefore, the price of the larger battery must be added to the price Less the price of the smaller battery divided by five. So 21 minus 12 equals 9 divided by five gives 1.8, rounded up to two thousand euros. So, it turns out that the price of the equivalent version is 54 thousand euros compared to 66 thousand euros with Tesla. Except that they are not really parallel because nio is much better.
Thank you for this very clear, detailed and absolutely awsome review. You have quickly become one of my favourite BEV reviewer. Also look smart in that jacket, perfectly matching the colour of the car.
Yes, very well dressed today!
Thank you that's not a bad statement! Maybe I should do all my reviews better dressed!
Tack!
Really really love this EL6. Would be my perfect EV SUV. Hope NIO can solve SW issues like ''reset trips and kWh/100km counter'' and improve powertrain efficiency :)
Greetings from Barcelona !!! 😇
The charging is a lot better now, but there's room for improvement. Trip info is really an issue, but that would be an easy fix.
The vehicle is actually relatively efficient compared to an electric vehicle as wide and tall as this one, and the difference from the WLTP was only 5 percent at 80 km/h, Which is much closer to the WLTP range compared to Tesla. This problem is almost certain to be fixed with a software update.
This is a timeless design. I'm never tired of looking at it all the time. Clean and silky. ❤❤❤
Couldn't agree more
Great review: good calm thorough to the point review and no unnecessary yelling or drama.
Thank you! Trying to be balanced yet detailed enough
Amazing car, hope Nio will soon be available in Switzerland!
Great review, thanks!
🙏 Let's hope so!
One of the best reviews of the EL6 that I found on YT. Despite the short time that you had with the vehicle, very informative, learned many new things and nice to understand the differences compared to the original EL6. Great location enhanced by the nice video quality and drone shots. Last but not least, enjoyable and to-the-point presentation. Agree with your conclusion that this EL6 will become the top seller for NIO in Europe. NIO houses and lifestyle is a funky way to attract new customers, but I wouldn't use it much if I bought one.. Tack from Germany! :-)
Glad you enjoyed it and appreciate your nice feedback!
The EL6 still one of my favorite SUVs out there. So nice!
Greetings from Sweden
VERY good (initial) review; thank you! I will take delivery of my top-spec EL6 in a few weeks, and I really wanted this review to be positive, which it definately is :-) I agree on the side-support in the seats (I sat in a pre-production EL6 a while back), but I hope all the other positive sides will eventually weigh up for that :-)
It for sure will! Let me know what you think when you get it
Tbh, I am a bit jeleous😅. But I wish lots of fun and enjoyment with the car. It is an absolute beauty.✌️
Picked up my new ES6 (in China) 4 days ago, absolutely loving it. Fantastic car.
Germany is absolutely gorgeous this time of year. Thanks for the review.
Yes absolutely stunning. My first visit to the Bavarian Alps. Amazing!!
NIO houses are not only social, it's also just a quiet and pleasant place to work.
Thanks for sharing. Would you utilize it regularly?
Amazing review of an amazing car! This is NIO's nr #1 in my opinion. It just have it all and things are in the right places!
Yes, the balance in the design is perfect!
Nio is killing it. Please bring these cars to Canada! I'd love to get an ET5 Touring.
that car is amazing
Stellar Review, Thank you ! GO NIO !
Drivers seat can be adjusted on the seat base button for thigh support length, agree on lack of side support, if driven hard you would need to hang on to the steering wheel to stop sliding around. Only 4 days since living with my new ES6 but so far very pleased with it. Your comments on ride firmness are very useful, I am running in comfort setting since I picked it up and on certain surfaces it does feel a bit like a boat the way it floats, it tends to make my wife travel sick, first thing tomorrow I will go for a stiffer setting.
Yes, I recommend driving on the stiffest mode.
Congratulations to your car!
Great review, amazing production quality, this channel really deserves more subscribers. As a foreigner living in China it's nice to get some English reviews of this car and this has confirmed my choice to buy this car.
Thank you, glad you liked it! Spread the word for me. 🙏😃
👍👍👍 I also chose Nio, waiting for my delivery in Shanghai!
@danieledwards9856 nice which one did you go for?
@@ItsOnlyElectric We went for the ES8, for me it was the clear winner vs everything else available with 6/7 seats here in China. The new ES8 also feels like a huge upgrade compared to the old one.
@danieledwards9856 nice!
Amazing review!
Thanks 🙏
Nice and detailed review. Added to our frontpage and to the EV database for EL6 reviews. Keep up the good work!
Thank you! 👍👍
The Ability to Swap ( Upgrade ) the Battery , far Superior to Fixed Batt.
Bravo. An interesting review. Now we are waiting for EC6 in Europe.
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Best review on ES6! Thanks a lot 😊
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
Good works with all the camera angles, give me the real feel when using the car.
Thank you, glad you liked it
The OUTSIDE camera footage is EXCELLENT. Now we can see the houses, people, streets, shops, fields, etc...Exciting video...MORE MORE...Lets see people STARING at NIO
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*This is the current standard CAB CAR in NORWAY today... The interior space, built quality, comfort, top notch.*
Great review, as always, so balanced and informative beyond specs....😊
Always nice feedback, thanks 🙏
Great review and great car in a fantastic environment. The only pending subject for Nio is the efficiency.
I am of the opinion that this cars almost competes with cars like Mercedes EQE suv or BMW ix rather than Tesla model Y .
Btw, how does NiO pilot conpares to Tesla standard Aitopilot?
Regards from beautiful Bavaria
Nice, really jealous of that nature of yours!!!
I have been testing Nio pilot a lot lately and must say that it's on par with an in some cases better than the Standard autopilot on the Tesla. But there are probably cases I haven't tested yet that's lacking. Overall impressed though.
And you are right, it competes with EQE SUV, BMW IX, Q8 Etron and Xpeng G9 rather than Model Y.
I live in Florida US and I agree with you 100% on NIO House and all that goes with that...I hope NIO learns that early so they don't waste too much money on that stuff...Just because 2 people buy the same brand of car why does that mean we would want to hang out with each other?...Maybe it's a chinese thing and works there so ok but they're going to have a hard time selling that across the globe...I really hope NIO comes to the US soon because it's the only EV I'll buy...I'm all about battery swap...
Exactly my point. Thank you for sharing your thoughts about it.
Hope nio arrives in US so you can get one. 👍
Me too. I want one.
Very good review!! Bra gjort!
Tackar tackar!
My explanation for why the EL6 is cheaper than the Tesla Model Y. I think the correct comparison is Tesla Model y Performance, because there is a difference of less than 0.3 second in real acceleration. But for the sake of the example we will be conservative and choose the long range version which is hard to call sporty but not terrible. So we chose the long range, 20 inch rims, the most beautiful color of nio is standard, so we will also add white color, now we come to autonomous driving, which is standard for nio, (in fact nio has twice as many sensors) so we will add full autonomous driving , and the final price is 66 thousand euros. Only a guarantee that your battery will forever be in the maximum state of health, 150 kilowatts of free electricity, two swaps, and that the vehicle is really ready for autonomy and you don't need to connect it to an outlet every so often. Only this is worth 170 euros per month, so the rally price is 52 thousand euros, but then we have a problem, the range of the y long range model is 533 kilometers, while the range of the nio is 406 kilometers, (for the sake of conservatism I will ignore the fact that the real range of the nio closer to the WLTP range than Tesla) because the nio has upgrades on a daily basis it turns out that you need the larger battery less than 20 percent of the time, and with battery swap, 80 percent of the time with this large battery is saved, therefore, the price of the larger battery must be added to the price Less the price of the smaller battery divided by five. So 21 minus 12 equals 9 divided by five gives 1.8, rounded up to two thousand euros. So, it turns out that the price of the equivalent version is 54 thousand euros compared to 66 thousand euros with Tesla. Except that they are not really parallel because nio is much better.
Nice calculation..add to the calculation that the nio is a bigger car in general and more comparable to an EQae SUV or a BMW IX.
@@ItsOnlyElectricpassenger space in the Nio is far superior than the model Y, much nicer place to spend time when on the road
@stevehale4712 I agree
But for the same reason, above price calculation could be argued
A Tesla model Y long range with 75kw battery has only marginal worse performance and same range as a NIO EL6 with 100kw battery. Tesla Standard Autopilot is good enough to spend an extra penny on FSD that doesn't add much.
In this case, Tesla is ca. 20k eur cheaper. I'm not saying Tesla is better, but it's clearly cheaper.
NIO EL6 belongs to a higher class for it's quality and dimensions . No doubt
...and I still love my Tesla model Y after 1 month of use and happy with its "cheap" interior 😂.
Thank you for a very good review😊
Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching
Great review, I want this car, now let's fix the financials! :)
😂😂 lets do it!
Thanks
With the 20-inch winter wheels that cost another 500 euros, the car looks much more beautiful.
Love your reviews. Calm and collected. You focus on whats important and not stupid gimmics. I really value your opinions when im now looking for a new ev. Keep it up! 👌
Tack! 🙂 Glad you like it.
@@ItsOnlyElectricWould be cool if you did a review of zeekr 001 btw 🙏
@markuslinda244 visiting zeekr tomorrow. Stay tuned for some short form content.
Thanks ❤ thats the best Nio review i have ever watched in TH-cam
Thank you sir! 👍 Yeni kanalına bol şanslar dilerim
Lenovo/NIO with their innovative battery swapping stations around Asia and Europe faster than fast charging and NIO EP9 was world's fastest fully autonomous EV in 2017, then BYD, Xiaomi, Dongfeng, Hongqi, Huawei and so on..
Seriously China is way ahead than the rest of the world.
Don't be surprised many designers of already established brands in Europe has migrated to Chinese brands including head designers team of Rolls Royce to Hongqi, etc.
Oh my Jesus I love your suit! So appropriate to the car for today!!
You are such a gentleman
😂
Thanks! Didn't know the color of the car beforehand but it played out well!
I like Nio cars.
Thanks!
Really nice car. I like the square display very much! 👍👍
It looks good, and is conveniently placed.
There is a button for the thigh support. You push the metallic part of the front most button. There are small marks on it, but its far from obvious. I'm not surprised you missed it. Maybe not the best design there. 😅
Very good input! Really tried to find that 😅😅
12:23 As a german I tell you... 120 is absolute ok. I drive around 110-120 the most time.
Thanks for confirming that
I love it, I want one!😍😍😍
Amazing car and review !! especially for the price.. cant talk bad about chinese ev anymore !
Thank you!
Actually that is the problem with NIO, priced higher than a BMW (like for like) but is a new Chinese brand, 639k Kr + 3k Kr a month or +240k Kr if you want a 100kWh battery = 879k kr v 669k Model 3 LR or 699k iX3.
@TB-up4xi get your point, price is set high for a new brand. But I would compare it to the BMW IX xdrive 50 or the EQE SUV, then it's cheaper for similar space, performance and comfort.
@@ItsOnlyElectric I agree just about everything is cheaper than an EQS but I also think these are wildly overpriced.
Thank you for the great video! Which cars do you feel have better seats than EL6?
I prefer the updated seats in the model y, EQE, bmw I4 etc. But not to forget, the EL6 has an amazing massage built-in to the seats! They are def not bad and the best seats from Nio yet.
38:31 ...it looks really, really handsome 😮
10!.. question, is it possible to update the software of the operating system? Great review! Fully agree with the NIO houses, in EU i do not think we are that Social o we need that part of NIO
Gets frequent OTA updates
Thanks 🙏
Thanks. Now sell your model Y and order one of these...😊
Not an impossible task actually!
Thanks for the detailed review :)
Glad it was helpful!
Very nice review on the road.👍
Thank you!
How does it compare for you to the Fisker Ocean?
This is a bigger car..the biggest difference is the driving comfort. The Fisker feels sportier, like the model y whilst el6 more to the comfortable side
Love your reviews but would you buy a NIO EL6 next? Thanks
I really like my Model y, but to be honest it's always tempting to change car. And to be honest this one of few cars that I think is a real alternative for me. So time will tell!
Thank you.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Please do it! You could be one of the very few European reviewers reviewing a NIO long-term. There's lots of potential clicks and views to be had there. On the other hand, Tesla has really become OLD news.
First of all fantastic video! But I do miss a direct comparison with the competitors, yes you talked about the advantages and disadvantages of it against the y model, but I would be happy for an in-depth head-to-head comparison, maybe even a separate video that only talks about the product against its competition, because in the end that is the thing that most affects The choice of which vehicle to purchase.
I get your point. This was on a release event didn't have time for that. But maybe a separate video for comparing cars SUVs in the same class
I spoke generally. I think in general comparison videos will be more interesting.
what would you choose?
A plastic car that has no quality control but has the best software
or
A premium electric car with battery swap tech
Thanks for the review. Do you know about, or do you have a price comparison sheet (excel or so) about the variants, the 3 purchasing options and timeline (eg 5,6,10,12 years) based on a certain reference use in km’s?
Unfortunately not. Would be an interesting calculation.
yes, youre right. the seats looking better here, than in the touring. so sad, cause i like the touring very much
One of the best looking SUV
Agree 👍 very well balanced
Gorgeous looking car
I love NlO
gorgeous car inside and out. looks super high quality and has so many real luxury features, unlike a tesla model y or x.
Is the chemistry of small battery pack of the LFP kind?
The small battery is of mixed chemistry so partly NMC and partly LFP.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Thanks for the swift reply! Interesting solution!
Great Video. Can you also comment on auto drive , lane assist etc..
The nio pilot works really good and my view on as a tesla owner is that it is very close to or on par with Teslas autopilot sometimes even better
Hope you get to test a production ready version of the Xpeng G9 also soon, to compare with this 😎 What I don't like with the G9 is very low payload and the passenger seat, other than that, this Nio better be really good to beat it, imo.
I have the G9 now, the real production version. 😃
Really nice review, as always! There is also much to like about G9, for sure, but compared to EL6, it lacks some important features for me such as: matrix led, head up, 40/20/40 backseats and a sunroof, doesn't it? My choice, after driven both, and considering the price point i Norway, would definitely be EL6. The interior in the G9 looks good, and feels 95 % good, but I can't stand the piano black and the "thin silver" on the steering wheel. The G9 is already facelifted (small one) in China, maybe they've sorted those things out?
Good reasoning. Stay tuned for my comparison.
Yea, I would also really like matrix on the G9 also, but at least it have very good light, even though no matrix/ pixel functionality. Headup, meh, I haven't tested the car yet, but have tested a few other with headup that hasn't impressed me at all. It might be good on the EL6 though, I can't say yet. Had cars before with sunroof that I only opened a few time 'for fun'/ show, but don't see the big thing about it. What I think I'm really going to appreciate, at least on longer roadtrips, are the passenger screen you get in G9. It's a shame really that Nio doesn't have one. Also G9 has a bit more space, like the frunk, which is very practical on roadtrips. More towing weight, but still to bad it doesn't have even more, they both should have, being they both are pretty large and very powerful. G9 looks to be more efficient and very fast charging. Battery swap could be great in time, depending on where you drive, but for now I would rather choose faster charging. Even though the suspension on the EL6 is good, it doesn't have air-suspension, and it's a bit more noisy (from what I have read/ heard, but I guess we will see some more comparison between the two soon). And 7 year warranty on the G9 vs 5 on EL6. Piano black surfaces is easy to fix with some wrap 😉So I don't know, they are both candidates for me still.
I like your comment, and reasoning! It's lots of pros, and maybe just a couple of small cons, with these two, and it really is a customers market, with alot to choose from, and I'm just glad not everybody is getting in line to get more Y's, ID.4's and e-trons 😉 (nothing wrong with them, but a bit more diversity wouldn't hurt)
Was it just me or was it a quiet experience in the cabin? I currently have 19'' on my Model Y, but this seems quieter, even on 21'' 😬
It's quieter for sure
I have a model y. it is not quiet. tesla cheaped out and only did double pane on the front windows.
@randomname931 agree. But since a while back MY cones with acoustic glass also in the back, but still not silent
If you drove a NIO, its the best EV. The preformance with the class and quality.
Hard to beat, and if you are based near a battery swap, then you know what i am talking about.
The service world class.
Great review. Well done. Could I ask how much this car will cost in Europe? I'm in Ireland which always tends to be well above European average so I'm expecting to be priced out of this car. Unfortunately.
Thank you! :)
Not available on Irland yet unfortunately.
Price starting from 639k SEK (Sweden) / 54k Eur (germany). Thsts without the battery. Talking about the price and pricing model around 30 minutes in..
@@ItsOnlyElectric cheers mate. Keep up the good work 👍
Now please explain to all these people why NIO is " more" expensive than the plastic car made, Tesla
@@danped8338And way more equipment and tech.
Exactly, but when you read comments... majority are complaining about the price " too expensive". However how much is a Model Y performance in Sweden?
@@GM-lq7swYP is base 709k SEK, and EL6 is 639k SEK without battery. Add 240k SEK if you want to buy the 100 kWh (who does?)
Model y performance costs 709k sek. El6 starts at 639 without battery. 759k sek with the small pack and 879k sek with the big pack .
Thank you. Then I will not have any doubts. NIO is the winner
Also you mentioned the screen is not designed for movies...exactly...NIO GLASSES are design for movies. I don't know if they are available outside China but in China you can sit in the back seat on a road trip wearing a pair of NIO GLASSES that are some kind of VR emergence that gives your eyes its own cinema screen.
Haven't seen them in Europe yet. Don't you get nauseous riding in the back with VR glasses?
I have nausea in general when I watch movies while traveling. But since the seats are comfortable, it is also possible to do movie night even when not traveling.
@@ItsOnlyElectric Yes I would personally I think all this viewing in-car is madness.
I have Netflix and a big horizontally aligned screen in my Tesla and on top of that amazing sound. I'm dreaming about watching movies in the car, but it never happens. 😂😂
@itsonlyelectric How would you compare this car vs the Xpeng G9?
Will do a comparison soon. 😃
Thanks - I didn’t get it. With BAAS you get 2 free swap per month, or do you have to pay for them on top of the BAAS subscription?
2 free swaps included in the BaaS per month.
How is the auto pilot and all those things in that category??
Tested it several times and it has really evolved and now one of the better systems I have tried. For sure on par with many of the big players
Great review thank you. How much does this car cost?
Starting from 639k SEK./ 54k Euro. Talking about the price around 30 minutes in..
By the way, if anyone happen to fly through Munich and would like to see and touch NIO EL6 and ET5 wagon, they are shown at Munich airport at the outdoor space between terminals 1 and 2 between
Can you make an comparison between Nio EL6 and Voyah Free?
Currently not possible to get hold of a Voyah Free I Sweden. But will see what I can do.
hello, can you also do a review on the lights please?
Hi, didn't get the chance to drive it during night time. Hopefully possible to do that later.
I have found one review who managed to test it at night: th-cam.com/video/H6IYUKDetfE/w-d-xo.htmlm30s
It should also have matrix lights.
@@tani123 It does.
If you would need to choice between the upcoming Model Y, FIsker Ocean or Audi Q6, what would you do? And why?
Though question!!
Today:
1. Fisker
2. Model Y
3. Audi
Depending on the looks of the updated model Y I may choose the Model Y over the Fisker.
1. New Model Y
2. Fisker
3. Audi
What happens if we put the Nio EL6 in the mix?
The EL6 is one of my favorites and since I have a model Y today I would go for the Fisker with recently lowered price or the EL6.
@@ItsOnlyElectric I don’t have a Model Y. Like the interior of the EL6, looks of the Ocean and the complete package (and network) of the Model Y… difficult choices…
Yes it sure is.. though choice
Game changer. NIO is a disrupter and will be right behind Tesla in the future. Don’t let the stock price scare you.
I think the NIO houses will be good for some people, to go to NIO events or chill or do business and while the children play in their area. I would probably go a few times a year to the cafe and use a swap station if they have one, because I live a fair way from the city, but I would probably do other events like touring holiday or a concert.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
I am in China and I can tell you why Nio house is working here. Nio house usually organize some family activities and arrange some group travel for Nio owner's during national holidays or weekends. Chinese Owners are si much enjoy that and Nio fellows are full supporting that. which makes an loyal inner circle for the Nio life's.😊
but first thing comes first. your city needs a basic quantity of Nio user somewhere arounds 500 owner I assume.
Thanks for sharing. I guess it also cooks down to culture and living patterns..big parts of Europe don't have that usage pattern. Maybe it will change with enough users. Future will tell 🙂
Actually the NIO Houses in Europe are open to everyone. Only in china the are for NIO owners only :)
Good that you pointed that out. What your thoughts about it?
@@ItsOnlyElectric I already was in Düsseldorf and Frankfurt. There were some people that met or did some work/studying. Even if you don't own a NIO you can hang out there. It is definitely worth a visit while in town or if they have an event like some evening music.
I like the idea to be able to go somewhere to hang out weather it is planned or not. I wouldn't overdo it but from time to time it is a nice addition.
10/10
Why are they struggling to sell such a good product? Marketing and Sinophobia....
Yes, and too complex business model I think.
Question is if the company will survive. Not that you are left with a 100k computer with no software support
Nio seems to address this by cutting costs and making the company more efficient. Rumors say that a fighting sub brand in the shape of more affordable EVs is under the making, for selling higher volumes. Not sure when or on what markets. Heard anything about it?
Caught me off guard on seated heats lmao
Haha!!!
Check out the financials and share price of the company
What's your analysis of the share and the company? A stock price is not the same as the actual company and does not always correlate.
Totally agree that at least in Europe NIO Houses are a waste of money and space. I can guarantee I will never be hanging out in one.
Then we are on the same page. Thanks for sharing your thoughts 👍
how tall is this guy? This enormous SUV looks like a mini clubman behind him.
He is 193cm..6,3 mini clubman.... 😂😂
Nice
Whats the price tho?
Price explained in the second half of the video. Starts at 539k SEK or 54k Euro. Without battery
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I can’t wait for NIO to fit he latest CATL battery to their cars that can rapid charge over 600kw.
That would be dope!!
It will only be for those who choose to give up battery swap.
What capacity will it be and are there any communicated release of it at nio?
Are we talking about CATL semi solid state 150kWg pack?
@@ItsOnlyElectric Not sure if you’re aware but NIO announced in Dec last year that they’re upgrading/introducing the latest charging station to new ultra fast charging output with 500kW maximum power at 650A current. Similarly other EV brands such as Li Auto, GAC, Geely are also rolling out their own ultra fast charging points in China. Since March 2023 there are already 600kw changing points being built near Shenzhen. All indications point to the latest CATL Shenxing (LFP) battery is capable of delivering 400 km of driving range with a 10-minute charge, which will be fitted to NIO and a number of other EV makers. Although there are no further details about the CATL Shenxing battery. I think we just need to wait few more months or 1-2 yrs for Sweden. Lol.
@@tani123 Battery swapping is still a good ideal for ppl whose NIO cars are on old battery but wish to swap the newer ones, which can be appealing for some consumers. Although from a production cost point of view the possibility of battery swapping will potentially cost NIO cars much more than the competitors i.e. Tesla.
nio need to give us true onepedal driving. so they need to add slow down and come to a full stop by itself if you lift the foot of the accelerator
Probably on the way, I mean it's only software needed for applying it.
@@ItsOnlyElectric good to know^^
also a other question: if regen is set to very low, can you coast and when pressing the brakes it regen first whats max possible and then uses friction brakes?
@megahuntinsocke don't know if it works that way, but it's technically possible. I think it first adds regen before adding physical breaks.
@@ItsOnlyElectric thanks^^ sadly cant test myself yet as nio isnt avaible in switzerland yet. drive to münchen just to testdrive is expensive in time^^
but if it first regen then its amazing, because i love that on the fiat 500e ^^
@megahuntinsocke most brands do regen first and so probably the case for nio too. Seems like a must to save energy.
Interesting that only Chinese cars have these sounds. You are mentioning it is regulations related, but why do the others don’t have it?
The regulated sounds goes for all brands but it's new for 2024 models. The Asian beepings are for the general aid systems especially for distraction monitoring and land keeping assistance
Let's hope that the part of the Nio ecosystem that disappears is the f*cking beeping! I would buy this car yesterday if they make a quick setting to turn off all sounds. Isn't a visual warning on the instument cluster enough to satisfy the EU regulations?
Unfortunately visual warnings are mandatory in the eu regulation case. So other brands gas the same beefing. But would be good to be able to be able to permanently turn of nios other beeping functions in an easier way. Maybe possible to add a shortcut for that, didn't try that.
Set the speed to at least 180kmph on the Autobahn.
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Literally all other reviews say EL6 is much louder than ET5T. Who to trust...
I don't agree on that. Haven't measured the cabin noise in the el6 as I did In the et5t but I'm pretty sure it's the opposite way.
Why did ES6 become EL6? What are the key factors for S→L?
They key factor is the lawsuit from Audi I Europe
...which Audi lost btw, but now ES7 and ES6 are EL7/6. 🤷🏻♂️
Eu Law 6 😂😂
Correct
NIO has been making really beautiful cars lately. Not so far behind with Germans..
Agree. For me the design of Nio is very Bavarian.
The Chinese EV maker Nio has hired @@ItsOnlyElectric
The Chinese EV maker Nio has hired senior designers from Jaguar Land Rover and Volkswagen Group as it seeks to expand its product offerings and enter the European market.
Joaquin Garcia becomes a senior design director at Nio's Munich design studio after almost six years at VW Group's Seat and another five at Skoda.
Jaguar Land Rover's Alister Whelan has also been named a senior design director at the Munich studio after 21 years at the UK automaker.
Both executives started their new positions Oct. 1 and report to Nio design director Kris Tomasson.
Thats why Nio looks so good and Bavarian.
@cryptomoon9932 exciting times. I met Kris st the event in Munich. Great guy.
ES8>Q7
Dude it's you again! Your English is horrible LOL.... The EL6 looks so nice but I still prefer the look of the ET5T. Thanks again for putting all your EV content. I've learned a lot listening to your videos.
It's not horrible. I think it's quite good grammar. Just have a Swedish accent. Doesn't make it bad :) BTW is that a DT1 ( diabetes ) armband? If so,
😂😂😂 stop pulling my leg man!! Glad you enjoyed it
@Mrawelon82 he is just joking after my et5 video.
The bracelet is a band I got from the nio event in munich. 😅 but you are right it looks like a DT1.
better than me
@@Mrawelon82 I'm just messing with him. I've previously mentioned that his grammar and vocabulary is better than most Americans I talk you.
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Looks very similar to the mg4
Does it?
@@ItsOnlyElectric from what is see on camera yes, I haven’t seen either in real life so there is that
I think you must mean another car, the MG4 is a small golf-class hatchback with a totally different look?
On the front there is a kind of drop like this, in MG4 there is also it but in a much more noticeable way.