M4 iPad Pro - Does iPadOS RUIN it?! (macOS at WWDC?)

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  • Apple's M4 iPad Pro is INCREDIBLY powerful, but is iPadOS good enough to make it a solid choice in 2024? Or is it time for Apple to REALLY step it up and give the M4 iPad Pro macOS support?
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  • @MaxTechOfficial
    @MaxTechOfficial  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

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    • @ahmedalsadi0010
      @ahmedalsadi0010 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Guys, just accept that apple Greedy won't add macos to ipad they will keep improving it and fore you buy from apple Store. They are private companies, not a charity....

    • @RIDEWITHGAME
      @RIDEWITHGAME 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Can you compare the m2 air 11 inch with the m2 pro 11 inch and which is better

  • @jlaw1901
    @jlaw1901 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +519

    MacOS when on the keyboard, iPadOS when off

    • @samlewis1433
      @samlewis1433 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +109

      Best idea but they won’t implement it because it will kill MacBooks

    • @SirusStarTV
      @SirusStarTV 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +48

      Just make it like DEX, turn on or off whenever user want.

    • @noinghenah2764
      @noinghenah2764 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +51

      Apple loves money more than their customers 😂 they will never let the ipad replace macbook until qualcomm chips and surface pro really can kill the ipad. At that time Apple will follow.

    • @ZoneTan10
      @ZoneTan10 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

      MacBook and iPad sales are tanking. At this point they might as well merge the two to save both.

    • @joselucnico
      @joselucnico 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I don’t think Apple want Old software on The iPad.

  • @Generic321
    @Generic321 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +275

    I want terminal, disk utility and a calculator. The basics shouldn't be this agonizing to beg for.

    • @sethfeldpausch4337
      @sethfeldpausch4337 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I have heard we'll be getting a native calculator app on iPad with iPadOS 18. Idk why it's taken so long though!😂

    • @hraqhraq
      @hraqhraq 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I need the Finder I am missing searching inside PDFs and other files due to lack of Indexing

    • @joselucnico
      @joselucnico 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@hraqhraqiOS already does that

    • @JM-ps9pl
      @JM-ps9pl 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I need time machine backup for iPad

    • @joselucnico
      @joselucnico 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      MacBook will die for sure.

  • @ZayasRaymond1
    @ZayasRaymond1 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +111

    My M1 iPad Pro still runs like new. Can’t justify the upgrade until a radical change to iPadOS.

    • @Sam-pn2kc
      @Sam-pn2kc 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Or the battery 10hours is a joke since 2010. I wait for 15 hour to 20hour battery life

    • @TheConstruct_VR
      @TheConstruct_VR 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      This. My m1 is great. And connecting a monitor gives me that Samsung dex feel. No reason to drop 2k

    • @EliR.-dt4lt
      @EliR.-dt4lt 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Sam-pn2kcYou on your ipad 10-15 hours a day? Get a shower.

    • @danielhenderson3247
      @danielhenderson3247 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      My thoughts exactly.

    • @UltimateGoober0
      @UltimateGoober0 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Probably becuase your a casual user, some people have work jobs that require high performance chips and the M4 is one of them

  • @jutleej4175
    @jutleej4175 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +114

    There is no way, they will announce macOS for iPads in WWDC 2024. They would never release Final Cut Pro 2 for iPadOS, when you can get full Final Cut Pro just a month later. What I can imagine, is that they are developing a "macOS like interface". Which still will be iPadOS, but which a better filesystem, better mouse and window manager.

    • @sammyjammy6647
      @sammyjammy6647 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      And why would they? You can get a keyboard with the iPad and then if you put macOS on it then why does the MacBook Product line need to exist?

    • @sethfeldpausch4337
      @sethfeldpausch4337 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      I honestly wish they'd allow the iPad to just dual boot both iPadOS AND macOS! iPadOS is a great system for general content consumption, but as soon as you need to do serious professional work, MacOS is just objectively better. The iPad hardware is capable of running both flawlessly, so IDK why they wouldn't just make it run both?

    • @sethfeldpausch4337
      @sethfeldpausch4337 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@sammyjammy6647
      Mac would exist for those that simply prefer its form factor. But eventually Apple is gonna have to bite the bullet and cancel one or the other, kind've like how the IPhone naturally drove the iPod into extinction! The iPad and MacBook are just gonna get harder and harder to coexist, because they serve such a similar function. Eventually one will acquire all the benefits of the other and effectively they will fuse into one singular product!

    • @sammyjammy6647
      @sammyjammy6647 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sethfeldpausch4337 funny how you bypassed my comment answering your question.

    • @sammyjammy6647
      @sammyjammy6647 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sethfeldpausch4337 right but I don’t think Apple is ready to give up it’s market share in laptops. Apple is trying to thread the needle to keep iPad going by giving it a keyboard and a pencil, but it can’t give it full macOS functionality. At least I don’t see that happening in the foreseeable future.

  • @tubecci
    @tubecci 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +134

    What I want is "MacPad"

    • @SirusStarTV
      @SirusStarTV 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Or modern ModBook, but officialy from apple

    • @vancouverisland771
      @vancouverisland771 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I am going to jump ship over to Samsung.
      The Tab S9 Ultra has a bigger display and has Dex.
      The display on the Ultra is very nice, just as nice as the new ipad pro.
      Done with Apple and there over priced tech.

    • @sly2792004
      @sly2792004 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      nah you want a touch screen Mac.

    • @goldmastersimulations
      @goldmastersimulations 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Get Minisforum V3 with Ryzen 7 8845HS instead. You have full Windows 11 and can even use eGPUs because it has 2 USB4 40Gbps ports.

    • @michaeltesta9965
      @michaeltesta9965 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Two existing options:
      (1) Purchase a discounted MacBook with broken screen and de-lid the device. Use the MacBook base as your Magic Keyboard for iPadOS with universal control or use the iPad as the MacBook screen via mirroring. There are shortcuts available to initiate macOS mirroring wirelessly to iPad screen - initiated from iPadOS.
      (2) Ditch MacOS and RDP into as many Windows desktopOS instances as you want. Cellular iPad is ideal for this. Either use your own windows hardware or your own virtualized windows instances on home server or cloud.

  • @laxliife
    @laxliife 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +95

    My M1 iPad Pro runs flawlessly, handles everything this wimpy ipadOS provides. No need to upgrade. I am worried that apple will pull some bullshit and say that only the m4 can run macOS… like the m1 laptops didn’t exist.

    • @JohnSmith762A11B
      @JohnSmith762A11B 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Even with an M1, on any machine having less than 16GB of RAM the experience would be complete trash. What percentage of iPads would that requirement eliminate?

    • @noelfletcher1149
      @noelfletcher1149 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JohnSmith762A11B i have an 8GB M1 MBA and my experience is fine, even working with Logic and Final Cut. 16GB is the minimum requirement for PCs, not Apple Silicon Macs

    • @rayray2283
      @rayray2283 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      They have already said it, “M4 ready for AI”, so we have to upgrade in order to benefit of the new features.

    • @Sam-pn2kc
      @Sam-pn2kc 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      My 12.9 m1 runs great. I will wait 2 more years and wait for 15 to 20hour battery life

    • @marvinvogtde
      @marvinvogtde 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I’m still using my 2019 iPad Pro, until they give the software more freedom, I don’t see myself upgrading until my current iPad is dead

  • @Drew1218s
    @Drew1218s 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    Even when the m4 comes to Mac’s I’m not sure that I’ll upgrade. The m4 finally looks like a nice boost over the m1 but my m1 still feels very fast. I’m content with what I have for now.

    • @johnpoe3012
      @johnpoe3012 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      they still aren’t using the potential of the 4 year old m1. when your using them there’s basically no difference between the m1 and m4 when the os limits it.

    • @OscarLiao-hy3oy
      @OscarLiao-hy3oy 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I don't even complain my iPad 7 with A10 at daily use. Only problem is the RAM size make things lag out.

    • @danielchamorro76
      @danielchamorro76 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      M1 was a huge jump at a very good price. Keep it

    • @skybluFr
      @skybluFr 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have a M1 max so I have no reason to switch

    • @AllenMarkel
      @AllenMarkel 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have a 2017 IPad Pro 10.5 and it’s fast enough for most apps! I’m interested if Mac OS is implemented!

  • @Epicgamer_Mac
    @Epicgamer_Mac 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I want iPadOS to get a better file manager, window manager, the ability to connect to more peripherals and devices, and a terminal for devs and people who work with code like me as a CS student.
    The way they could do this is just, when it detects you’ve connected a Magic Keyboard, it reveals a new hidden page on the Home Screen that is basically a Mac desktop. So all you have to do is swipe over from the side to get into “Mac mode”.

  • @wagsbass
    @wagsbass 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Why launch the M4 on a Netflix and chill tab

  • @AlexanderHowe95
    @AlexanderHowe95 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +62

    iPad OS needs widespread MacOS support for ALL M series iPad pros for me to keep my M1 iPad Pro - if they gatekeep this to the M4 I’m out

    • @MrQuay03
      @MrQuay03 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Probably can't. MacOS is not made for touchscreen. You're safe with iPadOS

    • @elgaen555
      @elgaen555 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      It will hopefully be iPadOS with almost all the functionality of MacOS. I’ve always preferred the IOS intuitiveness over MacOS

    • @Cilander4978
      @Cilander4978 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@MrQuay03 but it has a keyboard attachment, they could do something like Samsung dex

    • @shameermulji
      @shameermulji 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Cilander4978 Dex is overrated. it's nothign but a glorified windowing system. Big deal

    • @Cilander4978
      @Cilander4978 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@shameermulji no, i mean that you can switch to something like macos in just a few seconds

  • @kamal-ahmed
    @kamal-ahmed 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    If I could run desktop app like my phpstorm IDE for coding then I would replace my MacBook pro right away. Without desktop app , iPad is just a media player device for many people except content creators and artists and music composers.

  • @MehulSathyanarayan
    @MehulSathyanarayan 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    MacOS is never coming to iPad. Apple has made this clear multiple times. Everyone just has to accept and live with iPadOS

    • @Delena00
      @Delena00 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      But then why keep making an increasingly expensive device that is only capable of half the value?

    • @stefanjohnsson5661
      @stefanjohnsson5661 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Delena00 What is it you need to do on your iPad that you can’t? Why do you need to do this on an iPad instead of a Mac?

    • @Delena00
      @Delena00 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stefanjohnsson5661 Then the question then becomes why do people need to buy a MacBook as a companion to the iPad for all the things the iPad should be able to do but simply cannot because of its limitations?

    • @stefanjohnsson5661
      @stefanjohnsson5661 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Delena00What people do and why is not a great way to pick what works for you. Again, what do you need to do on an iPad that you can’t? Why do you need an iPad to do that thing?

    • @amazinglyaverage590
      @amazinglyaverage590 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stefanjohnsson5661 90% of my productive appliations for work

  • @TroubleshootLIfe
    @TroubleshootLIfe 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I’m still on my 2020 iPad Pro with the keyboard and pencil. It still looks new. When I bought it, the promise of full Photoshop lured me in. Just this year, they added some good features. I use my iPad as a laptop most of the time, and I jump to my Mac Studio when remote and need the desktop.
    If the browser on the iPad were the same as on the desktop, it would be awesome, and some features don’t work on the iPad.

  • @user-kp6rx5zw2x
    @user-kp6rx5zw2x 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Apple will never let the iPad Pro reach its full potential. They will keep it a bridge device to protect MacBook sales. Putting MacOS on an iPad Pro, would completely change their business model.

    • @I_like_science
      @I_like_science 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      MacBook sales ? Dawg. iPads are more expensive than their entry laptop (air) LOL more iPads more money and best of all (for them) is that there is only one port on the iPad meaning a huge point of potential failure.

    • @yujinm4161
      @yujinm4161 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It is too expensive to be called a bridge device. OS must be vastly improved to justify that high price.

    • @Hydrogen101
      @Hydrogen101 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lmao, the Mac is the bridge with the insane price point of the M4 iPad Pro 😂

    • @ysmg9010
      @ysmg9010 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      MacOs is not ready for touch input, to be fair.
      Most people in the comments think of a device with keyboard attached, but a (touch first) tablet has to work without keyboard or trackpad/mouse.
      I'm a user of Surface devices (with Intel, not ARM) from day 1.
      I seen the hate Windows 8 got and how Windows 10/11 still have issues on those devices (some things are even worse than with Win 8).
      The same time I been using Macbooks for work.
      MacOs is not even close to the level of "touch firendly", that Windows 8 was, when Microsoft launched Surface.
      Sure, Apple could invest to optimise MacOs for touch.
      But that is a heavy task, there are just so many sections to optimise ....

  • @nyanko2077
    @nyanko2077 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +85

    If they keep this shit ipadOS inside their ipad, I won't be buying it. Apple has to make it worth 2000$. For now, it's just a great piece of hardware run by a toy OS.

    • @JohnSmith762A11B
      @JohnSmith762A11B 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      I knew an engineer at Apple and he once called the iPad "a big, fat, iPod Touch."

    • @ahaimes6320
      @ahaimes6320 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The base is £1300 and spread over 7 years, the average upgrade cycle then £200 a year for an iPad Pro seems like a reasonable amount.

    • @JET34568
      @JET34568 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Agreed. With ipad OS the ipad pro is anything but pro! I’m done paying for a half baked product

    • @goldmastersimulations
      @goldmastersimulations 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Every US customer should be buying Minisforum V3 instead. There is no reason not to if you have a $1000+ tablet budget and when it has 32GB RAM, Ryzen APU, 1TB, and full Windows 11 at $1200 right with that early bird discount they're offering.

  • @brandoncvoliga1995
    @brandoncvoliga1995 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I think stage manager in the next update should activate something similar to DEX on the galaxy tablets where it’ll go from iPadOS to macOS with just a switch.

  • @WoWdOm18
    @WoWdOm18 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I ordered the 13 inch 512 gb pro to replace my 3rd gen iPad Pro. Im really hoping for big updated to IPad OS this year.

  • @EliteFpv
    @EliteFpv 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I literally did exactly everything in this video. Thought maybe it was time to update my MacBook Pro m1. Saw the price and also seen it was still iPad os and thought the price was crazy. Next thought I might as well wait for m4 MacBook Pro.

  • @AfatPanda98
    @AfatPanda98 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would this be viable for video editing or no? Would a mac still be better despite the new chip?

  • @SIMPLEisWIN
    @SIMPLEisWIN 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +71

    i mean what's the point when it's bottlenecked by its OS... And the fact that they changed the size from 12,9 to 13, means we need to buy new docks... So yeah..

    • @amanagarwal1939
      @amanagarwal1939 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      If you think it's bottlenecked by iPadOS, just buy a Mac and get yourself into MacOS.
      It supports most app functionality of iPad(barring touchscreen) and it will eventually get m4.
      We all have choices.
      Edit: People saying it needs MacOS just so that they can say they have options or "innovation" are welcome to do so if combining fridge and TV is innovative.
      Also I hardly remember any argument for s9 ultra tablet or whatever it's called for having the same windows functionallity.
      And don't start on Dex or whatever. It just presents a desktop UI. There is nothing desktop about it. Neither features or applications. Period

    • @whitecrowuk575
      @whitecrowuk575 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Screen got bigger bezels smaller, I thing size is the same only the connectors changes so incompatible with old keyboard as well as pencil because of magnets in different places. Of course done on purpose

    • @SirusStarTV
      @SirusStarTV 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@amanagarwal1939 people want "innovation" and not getting tablet os years after years, ipad is not regular tablet anymore with m series apple silicon. Naming it ipad "pro" when real professional people wouldn't use it is kinda stupid.

    • @JasonTaylor-po5xc
      @JasonTaylor-po5xc 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Just marketing - the 13" is really the same 12.9" screen. It's like when LG refers to their 31.9-inch monitors as 32-inches. Same nonsense. You will still need new accessories simply because of the change in magnet locations for the new camera position. Understandable but still unfortunate - granted, if you can afford a Pro, not sure that is a deal breaker.

    • @broccoloodle
      @broccoloodle 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@amanagarwal1939 ipad having macos doesn't harm you, doesn't harm anyone. why not?

  • @orangeofmars2835
    @orangeofmars2835 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Nice video. My sentiments exactly.

  • @scupking
    @scupking 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    The new iPads are great but iPad OS doesn't take advantage of all that power. It never has... The only iPads that had struggles was the original iPad and iPad 3.

  • @user-jv4cb4tf7i
    @user-jv4cb4tf7i 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I really wish they opened up the iPad more. I would love to write and compile code on an iPad form factor

  • @EnochGitongaKimathi
    @EnochGitongaKimathi 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Waiting to see if Qualcomm delivers on a full Windows 11 experience with the Snapdragon X. I can't wait for Computex. Apple needs the competition. I actually think the iPad Pro getting the most advance tech is because of the shift in priority to the Vision Pro. Vision OS needs the performance efficiency offered by the M4 Silicon.

  • @alexandrustefanmiron7723
    @alexandrustefanmiron7723 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +66

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    • @Tigers.i
      @Tigers.i 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

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    • @RavenclawTruly
      @RavenclawTruly 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Nah! Water gets things wet. Water in itself is not wet.

    • @GodHeaven-dr3nm
      @GodHeaven-dr3nm 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

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    • @sly2792004
      @sly2792004 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I just dont get why they can't make water dry yet. we've been asking for it for years.

  • @cameralabs
    @cameralabs 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    I really miss the 11in MacBook, and find iOS doesn't give me the functionality I'm after. So YES, I'd love for the to put MacOS on an iPad for use with one of the keyboards to make a mini laptop.

    • @joselucnico
      @joselucnico 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Every Mac users say that, iOS too.

    • @nickbrough8335
      @nickbrough8335 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      so no other mac will do instead ?

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@nickbrough8335 are you asking me? I'm always looking for the smallest and lightest laptop that still runs a full OS, so right now,m the 13in Air is my best bet in the Apple lineup. BUT in the past they did have a smaller 11in MacBook and I'd love to have an updated version of that.

    • @nickbrough8335
      @nickbrough8335 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cameralabs I wonder why the old 12 inch was so critical for you. Thanks

    • @NotAnotherChannel_Channel
      @NotAnotherChannel_Channel 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes indeed! I find it mind boggling why they stubbornly refuse to pull this off.

  • @Ded-Ede
    @Ded-Ede 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    8:14 I use my iPad Pro with my headless m1 Mac mini with vnc. Please make this possible when I’m on the same Wi-Fi system I can use macOS on iPad Pro as if it was all one cohesive system.

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    @michellebarnes9241 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your video. Is unique. You gave more info about software. Thanks.

  • @s.m.mediaproductions5304
    @s.m.mediaproductions5304 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    It can't do anything that the iPhone can't do. It may do a few things better, or easier, but nothing extra. Unless it runs MacOS it's useless at that price.

    • @ahaimes6320
      @ahaimes6320 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      "useless" is very overdramatic. It has a small niche target audience, and obviously, most people would be better off with a laptop. For me, it's not brain surgery; I have both. I upgrade each device every six years. Best of both worlds and zero compromise. Anyone whining about carrying two devices, don't bother, as that is tiresome.

  • @matiriquelme293
    @matiriquelme293 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    So that is what microsoft did a long time ago with the surface (way slower though). Apple should have a Samsung dex competitor at least

  • @jdesmond68
    @jdesmond68 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It would definitely be welcomed for sure.
    But I'm chomping at the bit to know the performance of the nine core.

  • @rleha7788
    @rleha7788 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have a 2020 iPad pro and it still works flawlessly. Only issue is the battery, but it cost about $150 to replace. The only thing that would motivate me to upgrade to the new ones is Mac OS on iPad, if that doesn't materialize I don't see any reason to upgrade to the new ones. I would consider maybe getting one of the M2 iPads just for the external monitor support.

  • @mr_travismc1
    @mr_travismc1 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I watched the event... and thought "Ho Hum.... no big deal." The ipad pro is already powerful enough for me... but I'm switching to microsoft surface because it runs full blown apps that are not crippled, low-budget, rental apps that aggravate me with advertising...

    • @simpromovie
      @simpromovie 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      But the surface is much worse as a tablet...

    • @mr_travismc1
      @mr_travismc1 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@simpromovie Perhaps the surface is worse.... I've bought CUBASIS as a sketchpad Digital Audio Workstation for iPad. I don't like it. I own Cubase. I would like to run Cubase. Cubase can run on a dumbed-down M1 mac mini, but it cannot run on an M1 ipad. I'm not renting Logic Pro, I own a copy. I'm not paying for it again. This is obviously not for me. I'm not a graphical artist. I'm not a videographer. There is a lot to NOT like about an iPad. I'm happy with my Macbook Pro and Mac Studio... But the iPad pro has been the worst money that I have ever spent on technology.

    • @simpromovie
      @simpromovie 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mr_travismc1 Isn't this the same for the Surface Pro? If you need real desktop apps a real laptop would be also even better. I used the Surface Pro for a year and than switched to the Surface laptop. It was the much besser device....(at last until Apple released the 15" MacBook Air which I am using now)

    • @sly2792004
      @sly2792004 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@simpromovie so true I tried it at demo. the pencil on it is horrible. such latency compared to iPad and less accurate.

    • @unkown34x33
      @unkown34x33 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      mannnvth3 surface looks nice! but I ended up getting the rog ally the handheld windows device. mind blowing what I can do, that I can't on the ipad

  • @amirtorhan2762
    @amirtorhan2762 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Personally I really need the M4 power on my iPad, like how else am I gonna watch Netflix or Yotube in PIP while browsing Safari?

  • @IrishRebel45
    @IrishRebel45 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Still using the 10.5 inch 2017 iPad Pro still works great.

  • @justinm848
    @justinm848 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So what do you do with all the product you order to make videos with? Return it?

  • @chris
    @chris 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    At the beginning I kept waiting for "But Wait, There's More! And if you act now you get a free fondue pot..."
    But in all seriousness, to answer your question at the end... YES, Apple needs to make iPadOS more PRO to justify the Pro price tag. I am NOT ok paying MBPro prices for a tablet that can't do everything my MBPro can. Their pricing is getting OOC.

  • @lofiadore
    @lofiadore 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    it would be awesome if iPadOS could run macOS based apps.

    • @PaolaHernandez-oe6lr
      @PaolaHernandez-oe6lr 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Exactly!

    • @hectorrodriguez4384
      @hectorrodriguez4384 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That would defeat the purpose of a iPad lol 🤣

    • @GuillermoDorado
      @GuillermoDorado 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@hectorrodriguez4384why? What do you think is the “purpose” of an iPad?

    • @lordtitanium
      @lordtitanium 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@hectorrodriguez4384 Yes and no, that would defeat the purpose of the "regular iPad", not the iPad Pro

    • @sammyjammy6647
      @sammyjammy6647 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You can get that keyboard with the iPad that has function keys at the top and then if you put macOS on the iPad, then Apple would need to scrap its whole MacBook product line

  • @Johnov
    @Johnov 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thank you for this video. As a iPad Pro 12.9 M1 user, I agree that it is a bit of a hard sell for me to replace it and all of my major accessories for the M4 Pros at this time. My current iPad is still snappy and has actually improved in usability with every iPadOS update. Even if a few of the iPadOS18 additions could end up being exclusive to the M4 iPads, I’m skeptical that there would be anything major enough for me to justify a hardware upgrade.
    IPadOS is so lightweight and efficient that 2018 iPads are still great, and I don’t believe that is a bad thing at all by itself as a customer. To justify more users paying $2000 or over on newer iPads, though, there needs to be more use-cases to take advantage of all of that extra power.

  • @fourthtunz
    @fourthtunz 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    These are crazy expensive! I think I can wait to get one of these as refurbished. The display alone kills anything they’re putting out as a MacBook, which is why I want it along with Face ID and the M4 processor. Nice to have all these options.!

  • @acaiv1797
    @acaiv1797 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Definitely not worth the upgrade. I still have an M1 IPad Pro that I could not use; I upgraded it to 1T to get the 16GB of ram😢 I am just able to use some features on it, so I am definitely not willing to lose anymore money unless it’s warranted. Also, my magic keyboard did not hold up well.

    • @stefanjohnsson5661
      @stefanjohnsson5661 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      What do you want to do on the iPad that you can’t?

    • @toobalicious
      @toobalicious 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      100% agree with everything you said - and yes, my $300+ iPad keyboard cracked the first year. Some of the apps I need won't run or aren't offered on iPadOS and you're limited to Safari or webkit-based products. When I bought the M1 iPad Pro, I bought into this (and other reviewer's) "hopeful hype" and also went for 1TB/16GB RAM in hopes of a dual-boot or virualized MacOS option. This time - I'll hold off until actual product ships.

    • @BSingh-on4qr
      @BSingh-on4qr 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@toobaliciousIf you have it and keep it on iPadOS 16.3.1, you can virtualise windows properly with UTM. I’m about to pull the trigger and buy one second hand, but I’m also hesitant to do it in case wwdc actually delivers for the iPad this time

    • @andrewwood4013
      @andrewwood4013 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stefanjohnsson5661you should be able to use it like an enhanced display Wacom with your desktop, it should have enterprise level file system and the Ui should be elegant, Final Cut should be bi-directional between your Mac and iPad, you should be able to target the iPad from your Mac when previewing Final Cut Projects, you should be able to drive a Cinema Display from your iPad in slave mode while using a standard keyboard and mouse, and the iPad should support Mac-like UI conventions when using it as a desktop machine. As a pro consumer, I expect a pro level product and constant refinement for pro workflows so that my projects can travel with me and I can have maximum productivity.

    • @toobalicious
      @toobalicious 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@BSingh-on4qr I just spent an hour or so reading about this on Reddit. According to the threads I've followed, UTM is unusably slow because of QEMU. And sadly, I cannot experiment and "see for myself" because my iPad is iPadOS 17.+ - oh well...

  • @sylvainbeausoleil9889
    @sylvainbeausoleil9889 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Totally agree. I ordered the 13 inch ipad pro with 1tb, but it would be so much worth it if it could run a version of mac os, even if it’s within an app that runs a virtual machine, like a version of Parallel, so that way we could even run a version of windows, for theses rare times that we need it.

    • @simpromovie
      @simpromovie 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I ordered the 1 TB M1 iPad Pro 12.9 today. Cost less than half the money and can do anything that an iPad should do. For anything else I have my MacBook or desktop Mac....

  • @captmrgn7040
    @captmrgn7040 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Will the nano texture screen be any better in sunlight?

  • @klauszinser
    @klauszinser 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As they have shown the iPad with M4, could it be that the starting level M4 MacBook (Air) will be something faster?

  • @dustcake2576
    @dustcake2576 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    apple is gonna be like this at WWDC: “now you have been wondering why the new ipad is so expensive?”

  • @meFatuations
    @meFatuations 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Don't want a laptop. I purchased a 1 TB 13in and the total was $2,735. I can't wait to get the machine. I know I'll love it. Super excited. Love Apple products.

    • @henryabecker
      @henryabecker 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I ordered a iPad Pro 11 1TB people just don’t understand that the whole reason to get a tablet is the fact it isn’t a laptop.

  • @user25312
    @user25312 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The new Magic Keyboard function keys are not engraved with the F1 to F12 characters that are used in many computer programs, indicating that they have no plans to support MacOS.

    • @I_like_science
      @I_like_science 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s because you are not expecting them to release the Magic Keyboard ultra

  • @danielchamorro76
    @danielchamorro76 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One question. Would they had updated final cut or logic if they would let you use mac os in the ipad? I think this year it will be a new dissapointing OS moment.

  • @ysk249
    @ysk249 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I want to buy the new M4 iPad, but the incapable IPadOs won't cut it. So I will skip the M4 iPad this time.

  • @JKPOrigins
    @JKPOrigins 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I just realized that l even if the new version of iPad OS next month is amazing, it doesn’t release until September… which means the pros are still limited to the bad OS for another 3-4 months 😵‍💫

  • @phileoness
    @phileoness 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My M1 MBP is still rocking it. I’d consider an upgrade just because my current iPad Pro is like 8 years old now, but even that still does what I need it to do. Having something that I can use like I do my MBP but also can be clipped to my mic stand…yeah, I’d consider an upgrade.

  • @MatrixRoland
    @MatrixRoland 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What sucks is that power apps like FCP require subscription on iPad. Unless you’re using it to make money or you have lots of money to waste, FCP on iPad doesn’t make sense.

  • @aviralgarg9165
    @aviralgarg9165 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    We all know it does

  • @AxemanMessiah
    @AxemanMessiah 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Glad I got an 9 inch android which was $700 less and has 144hz

  • @RonaldBrown59
    @RonaldBrown59 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm not upgrading, keeping my M1 iPad Pro for now. Thanks for sharing.

  • @leel0000
    @leel0000 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’m happy with my M1 iPad Pro. No need to upgrade. The only thing is limiting the iPad is the iPadOS.

  • @robjohnson1079
    @robjohnson1079 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I just can't seem Apple adding support for MacOS. Apple makes an astronomical amount of $$$ from the AppStore. Any support for MacOS would eat into that revenue.

  • @marianilie7321
    @marianilie7321 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    ipad os Suks

    • @tonyburzio4107
      @tonyburzio4107 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      List why:
      1)

    • @marianilie7321
      @marianilie7321 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tonyburzio4107 file managmant and can not instal Lightroom Clasic !

  • @joshbonner9409
    @joshbonner9409 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What if iPadOS 18 brings full macOS to iPad pros, when connected to the keyboard?

    • @gregedwards69
      @gregedwards69 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Or when attached to an external monitor

    • @JamesWilliam70
      @JamesWilliam70 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      or pencil

  • @RyanPerrella
    @RyanPerrella 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2:11 this would be a game changer, to transform the interface from handheld touch to a MacOS experience when docked to the keyboard would be INSANELY RAD!
    Great job Max and Vadim for digging into all this lovely stuff. Let’s hope it happens at WWDC24

  • @chrisvanhorn
    @chrisvanhorn 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This is such a tired take.

  • @mikerahl123
    @mikerahl123 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm definitely looking to get one of these. I've wanted a good tablet for a little while. And those dual OLED displays will be stunning!

  • @user-jv4cb4tf7i
    @user-jv4cb4tf7i 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hope you guys do a comparison between the 9 core base model with 8 gb of ram and 10 core with 16 gb of ram. I’m really interested in the difference

  • @davidahn4130
    @davidahn4130 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm sticking with my 15" MBA + 13" M2 iPad Pro until iPad available w/ full macOS, even then I'm not sure about downgrading the screen.

  • @sagichdochned
    @sagichdochned 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Im considering if I switch my Mac mini M2 to a iPad Pro M4 but idk ... Mainly to have the freedom so take it around the home. Otherwise it would be sitting on the desk and connected to a Monitor for Daily driver with a keyboard and mouse to game (Cloud Gaming PC), surft, TH-cam, etc. All stuff I do atm with my Mac^^

  • @terjerendalsvik5461
    @terjerendalsvik5461 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    since you are showing two ipads pro. are this the new or old ones?

    • @sneakkyz3696
      @sneakkyz3696 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Obviously the old ones bro. He literally even said he ordered 5 of them and waiting on them

  • @m89hu
    @m89hu 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    who needs the 1TB model with 16gb memory? I mean which app can utilise that?

    • @labroomes
      @labroomes 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Video editing apps and vector editing apps? I bought 1TB version and I edit video, photos, play emulation games, download movies, download Apple Arcade games - 1TB is a good size fit this stuff

  • @mariosaternus
    @mariosaternus 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What catches my attention is the Escape key!
    This may be a very good hint for upcoming changes to iPadOS.
    I’m coming from the iPad Pro 12.9 2021 and ordered the 1 TB iPad Pro 13 inch with the Keyboard and the new Pencil Pro. It costs 2827€ including VAT of 19% here in Germany (3047$).
    I’m keen to see how much iPadOS will be changed in order to get some better pro experience.
    My MacBook Pro will stay in any case, I think.
    They will not cannibalise the MacBooks even though iPad are more expensive if you spec them up.

  • @alejandropeyre7701
    @alejandropeyre7701 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hola, alguien sabe cuanto pesa las nuevas IPAD PRO 13 con el Magic Keyboard ? no figura esa informacion en ningun lado? gracias

    • @I_like_science
      @I_like_science 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Pesa como 3 mangos maduros

  • @kingjustice1831
    @kingjustice1831 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another great video Max! I do believe that now that we’ve hit price parity with the Macs they will likely offer MacOS for the iPad.

  • @RVDL
    @RVDL 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    iPad Mini to be updated later this year since it has an A- series chip?

    • @StayPeace69
      @StayPeace69 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      was hoping apple would release the ipad mini upgrade or at least a pro version in this event, then they just have to f things up with NO updates whatsoever
      f em

    • @marksapollo
      @marksapollo 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes it is rumoured to be updated later in the year, hopefully with the latest A series chip as it will be able to play all the latest games and support Ray Tracing.

  • @coralreef909
    @coralreef909 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When will they bring Xcode to the iPad Pro?

  • @DeborahCarlston
    @DeborahCarlston 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just ordered the new iPad Pro 11" with 1T so got the M4 chip. I'm hoping that they do something with the software too. I needed a new iPad this year anyway, but might not have spent $1800 on one, plus extra for the keyboard and pencil, if I can't truly edit videos on it. I'll have to work with it and see. If I end up having to shell out that much again for a MACbook I'll be really ticked off. Incidentally, I read a lot of comments from people saying that Apple will never fix the software because it would kill off sales of MACbooks. But maybe that's where Apple is headed. It would make sense for we customers in some ways. But we'd really need more ports for that to work, as well as the software.

  • @MrMatdech
    @MrMatdech 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wasnt happy with this video until Max recognized that the bar is high for upgrades …..subtle changes don’t cut it anymore

  • @MyNameJeff..
    @MyNameJeff.. 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Still using 2018 ipad pro 11 inch, with 94% battery health. Probably the most future proof ipad ever made.

  • @Frnzi5ko
    @Frnzi5ko 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is 13inch iPad Pro m4 too big. I got 11inch iPad but always wanted bigger screen for watching Netflix

    • @ponraul1221
      @ponraul1221 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      13” is too cumbersome in my opinion for an iPad

  • @ljdobles8104
    @ljdobles8104 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’m gonna buy the 11 inch iPad Pro, it would be nice a full macOS but I don’t really need it; I’m upgrading from a 7 year old iPad. I like that they put the M4 and the tandem oled, I’ll be keeping the new tablet by at least 5 years so is a future proof item.

  • @Tigers.i
    @Tigers.i 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Imagine the nano coating on that iPad reflecting the honeycomb light

  • @thetoolmat8632
    @thetoolmat8632 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yeah I want one, of course after the initial release I needed one! - but, a few days of reflection, I will wait again..presently on my iPad 2018, which I use 99% of the time over my MBP 2021

  • @terrellclark
    @terrellclark 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That’s what I’ve been waiting for to purchase another iPad. I will place an order even if it’s in beta if that happens. My fingers are crossed.

  • @Ledit_lheure
    @Ledit_lheure 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have the 12.9 iPad Pro 6th gen m2 chip. Not sure I’m changing

  • @ncc-pr8po
    @ncc-pr8po 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just ordered the 13 inch 256gb ipad and was wondering if I should switch to the 1tb option because of the benefits

    • @geauxtigers86
      @geauxtigers86 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I originally bought the 256 but switched to the 1tb because I’m goofy

    • @ncc-pr8po
      @ncc-pr8po 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@geauxtigers86 im about to do that should I

    • @geauxtigers86
      @geauxtigers86 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ncc-pr8po if you got the $, might as well

  • @matsta177
    @matsta177 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just order the 13 inch and and Magic Keyboard. Can’t wait!

  • @max_wheelwright
    @max_wheelwright 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Introducing iPadOS 18! We updated stage manager so it can run TEN apps at once!

  • @joshthiel7187
    @joshthiel7187 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have been waiting for a compelling reason to upgrade from my 2020 13in iPad Pro. The M1 and M2 were not enough for me to justify upgrading. While I don’t use the iPad Pro for editing etc, the pro motion is absolutely essential in my opinion. The writing experience (with Apple Pencil) between my iPad Air 5th generation with the m1 and my 2020 pro is dramatically different (the pro significantly better) and I write on my iPad taking notes as a counselor 5-6 hours per day. I am finally pulling the trigger to upgrade to the m4, but honestly the primary reason is because the battery life on my 2020 has just become unbearably bad….

    • @SchaufussTV
      @SchaufussTV 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You know you can have your battery replaced by Apple for a small price, right? Much better option if you don’t need the extra power.

  • @bennysanchez96
    @bennysanchez96 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What would be cool if the iPad was similar to the surface pro where you could switch from windows 11 to tablet mode. You could have iPad os and then switch to macOS

  • @jmpersic
    @jmpersic 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I agree, it's gettin' weird over there in Cupertino. I suspect they'll converge all the things eventually, but not at the speed that will give them their own Windows 8-style debacle. I'm not sure what a touch-MacOs convergence looks like, but I sure don't want what Windows is doing.

  • @juanjavier962
    @juanjavier962 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have the iPad Pro 3rd generation, I use it for everything, can’t wait to upgrade with the new iPad Pro M4

  • @AgathaWhispers
    @AgathaWhispers 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can see Apple providing a MacOS app that allows you to run a good variety of Mac apps within it. This would require you to partition some memory for MacOS only.

  • @nameno8735
    @nameno8735 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I need 24in or 32 in iPad or touch screen iMac to use Procreate.

  • @Ria-vj3ch
    @Ria-vj3ch 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If I don’t have an iPad, which one should I get?
    It’s just for school, notes, work, etc

  • @TomoFit
    @TomoFit 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have a 2018 iPad Pro and it runs just fine. I’m really considering an upgrade but WWDC then I’ll just buy a MacBook instead

  • @Fen2C
    @Fen2C 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have ordered an 11" base model Pro to replace the iPad mini 6 that I have had since launch. I want it as an iPad to do iPad stuff and I know the Pro is way overkill, but I want to try the display - I can return it if it doesn't feel like a worthwhile upgrade.
    I bought the M1 iPad Pro when it launched three years ago because I hoped it would get macOS or something similar - and I wanted the mini LED display. I returned it after WWDC because; iPadOS (and the display was identical to my 2018 12.9" Pro for SDR). I did re-buy an M1 12.9" iPad Pro on special in 2022, and I bought the Magic Keyboard that time. In the end I sold it after a few months and bought a MacBook Air 13" M2 to replace it, but I would be all over an iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard that runs macOS. I have a 16" M1 Max MBP and an M1 Mac mini to cover Mac needs, so the Air / iPad is for using on the couch / carrying around, but a big screen iPhone that iPadOS delivers doesn't work for me even for that.

  • @adamslawson
    @adamslawson 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have two M1 iPad Pro’s each 2TB, not cheap in cost and it would be great to be able to actually do real work on them, and be able to use the camera as an MacOS ability enhancement. Normal Safari/Chrome, normal Mail, normal Finder with local networking, normal manual application installation. Let’s go!!

  • @romieorock
    @romieorock 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When are you going to talk about the back camera?

  • @ancienbelge
    @ancienbelge 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Maybe they should rebrand iOS as ParisHiltonOS? ;) Seriously, I love the iPad Pro, but find myself using it less and less in favor of my Macbook Pro with a portable external screen. For stuff that doesn't need that, often my 15 Plus phone does the job...

  • @rocketmunkey1
    @rocketmunkey1 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Even if Apple does give it dual boot OS Ability there are still several major problems
    1) £1300 Base model STILL only has 8GB of Ram and a 256GB SSD
    2) You have to fork out £1900 for the 1TB 16GB and get the 10 core M4 performance
    3) SSD upgrades are a shocking and disgusting £400 per 512GB !!!!
    4) Right to repair STILL Not addressed !
    5) There is only ONE USB C Port !
    So I'm not sure if and when they intend to announce Mac OS support but they haven't prepared for it !

    • @sly2792004
      @sly2792004 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      never

  • @agustingrube5048
    @agustingrube5048 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Am I the only person who saw the larger / wide iPad during the recent iPad event? Look at the iPad shown at the 18:48 time then compare it to the 13in at 18:46. Looks wide to me. Looks like a 16 in.

  • @8spiro
    @8spiro 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i selled my pro and lose money and got the basic one... still do the same things , hope they make a hybrid mac os if not ipad pro is the same as the ipad 10 just nonsense more power