The Dark Ages - A VTuber History Lecture

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  • Here is the lecture on the origins of the "Dark Ages'", and why Historians don't like using it! Apologies for a few of the technical issues (no bgm/my microphone kinda peaking a bit!), I hope you enjoy!
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    Henry Thomas Buckle 1857. History of Civilization in England.
    Eltjo Buringh, Jan Luiten van Zanden 2009. 'Charting the "Rise of the West": Manuscripts and Printed Books in Europe, A Long-Term Perspective from the Sixth through Eighteenth Centuries"' The Journal of Economic History.
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  • @vivanraj
    @vivanraj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Why the Terminology of "Dark Ages" Isn't Entirely Accurate
    2:41 Why the terminology of "The Dark Ages" isn’t exactly correct? A bit of misnomer
    3:01 How is the term 'Dark Ages' typically understood?
    5:01 Quick Note
    8:56 What were the "Dark Ages"?
    14:24 Where does the term comes from? - Petrarch
    24:36 Petrarch's letter to Cicero
    28:17 Petrarch's world
    42:24 Mediaeval attitudes on the past
    48:17 What was new? Establishing 2 periods
    56:04 Petrarch's quote
    58:47 Q&A with viewers regarding graph
    1:13:03 Propagation of the darkness & decline
    1:17:55 Baronius, or, The Catholics strike back
    1:25:58 The enlightenment, or looking down on the past
    1:31:05 British historians
    Why do Historians dislike the term?
    1:41:51 Historiography
    1:43:58 Why don’t Historians like the term Dark Ages?
    2:03:22 The "Dark Ages", or Europe after the fall of Rome
    2:10:46 Migration period figure
    2:12:28 Justinian's conquest
    2:14:39 Dude, where's my Western European population?
    2:28:27 So, was Petrarch correct to call it a Dark Age?
    2:59:11 But did Christianity result in an intellectual "Dark Age"?
    3:15:06 Looping back on earlier discussions
    3:16:45 What did Petrarch want?
    3:18:32 "Dark Age", but actually just some parts of Western Europe
    3:24:23 It wasn’t even that dark, or an age!
    3:31:08 In Conclusion

  • @MakiKuronami
    @MakiKuronami 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    I think my favorite thing about Clio's lecture is how she becomes more confident in streaming and how it improves over time alongside making it more engaging overall.

  • @Zombie_Bun
    @Zombie_Bun 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    We have now entered the Hag Ages

  • @chaostourist2951
    @chaostourist2951 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    i love these lectures

  • @Skullnaught
    @Skullnaught 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Missed it live but excited to go back through the vod

  • @kulasfic
    @kulasfic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It's been some time since I last caught a live. Thanks for the vod Clio! And thanks for the lecture too~!

  • @flagro
    @flagro 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    thank you for posting it here, I will set aside some free time to enjoy the lesson ❤️

  • @louisbeaumesnil8133
    @louisbeaumesnil8133 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    another bit of history force into my brain by Clio Aite.
    Damn you, would you never stop??!

  • @DeusExDraconian
    @DeusExDraconian 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Reminds me of the cliche that the ancients all thought the world was flat came from snobby Victorians who thought they were so much smarter than everyone who came before them. The Dark Ages were not very dark at all. Unless you consider the classical world dying a tortured death to make way for the Medieval and eventual early modern is a dark thought.

  • @norad_clips
    @norad_clips 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks for posting this vod, Clio!

  • @BlackEpyon
    @BlackEpyon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Do you remember Age of Empires?" "Monty Python and the Holy Grail?"
    Damn! Right away, you've forced me to obligatorily date myself!

  • @Vampy_Rhombus5006
    @Vampy_Rhombus5006 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    19:12 brb
    1:12:52
    2:07:31 I’ll pick this back up tomorrow
    Great lecture on “The Dark Ages!”

  • @jegantdragoch.7088
    @jegantdragoch.7088 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    much appreciation for history streams and happy to have found you through a recent reddit post

  • @acg3934
    @acg3934 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As an indigenous briton, I think its reasonable for us to think of it as the dark ages.

  • @arsene-holmes
    @arsene-holmes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    new to your channel really love your history streams!!
    … and id liketo say the way you say ‘yes’ reminds me of lin-manuel miranda

  • @SagittariusAyy
    @SagittariusAyy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ah yes, Clio’s brand. We love to see it 🤎

  • @Teh_Hats
    @Teh_Hats หลายเดือนก่อน

    The saeculum obscurum is such a fun period to read about, despite a lot of it being Baronius interpreting through Liutprand of Cremona's ranting and complaining about all the people he hated. Still, it's honestly astonishing how much of the century goes right back to people trying to sort out whether Pope Formosus was based or cringe.

  • @CallMeRito
    @CallMeRito 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Listening to this while playing EU4.

  • @epyon_avenger
    @epyon_avenger 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Appreciate the lecture Clio!

  • @tøxic_2003
    @tøxic_2003 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Now that's a new vtuber....
    🤔

  • @wonderm-tm4ji
    @wonderm-tm4ji 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    this is why clio is the goat

  • @tapiocajack3004
    @tapiocajack3004 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When I was a kid I always thought the dark age meant that the world is in a perpetual state of dimness.

  • @quinnjohnson9750
    @quinnjohnson9750 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A Vtuber historian? Holy crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @renatocpribeiro
    @renatocpribeiro 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    People 2 hours into the lecture still saying "the dark ages" is making me insane

  • @nocomplyyy
    @nocomplyyy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thank you my HOAT, very educational

  • @Salvius.Praetor
    @Salvius.Praetor 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Splendid

  • @HighEndForce
    @HighEndForce 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    the dork ages

  • @OfficialFo
    @OfficialFo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    just what i need at 3 AM

  • @edulalo-q3y
    @edulalo-q3y 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When does this age finish ? Because there isn't an exact period . Some pepole say with the discover of America, other say that is later (the conquer of aztec empire).

  • @Blick.Winkel
    @Blick.Winkel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @Bam_Bizzler
    @Bam_Bizzler 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The slightly dim times

  • @njwolf22
    @njwolf22 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Clio is awesome

  • @Shiptoast0
    @Shiptoast0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting.

  • @SyntaxError0287
    @SyntaxError0287 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    So, It was called 'The Dark Ages' but not because it was dark?

  • @StardustSynchron
    @StardustSynchron 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    :D

  • @Brave_SJ
    @Brave_SJ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hahahahaha how the fuck are Dark Ages real hahaha dude just turn on the lights like dude get a flashlight haha

  • @Ephys
    @Ephys 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dark Ages. Ages where Religion has too much power technically.