@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24 There's a difference between releasing a good product for price x and asking for price x to get a usually buggy game that feels unfinished, but you can get the complete experience if you get the season pass for more money. Look at gta 5 for example. Huge success, no DLC, still played today. If you take CoD as the "opponent": season pass, no single player, new one every year. Sure both want to make money, but one of the examples respects its customers.
@@rebel4466 so games weren’t buggy in the old days? Y’all need to stop that nostalgia bias. And GTA did have dlc and it’s live service, cod has single player. Honestly bro you can do better than that
My major complaint for 'The Last of Us' in a nutshell. It's a movie with gameplay as an afterthought, it was already using the outdated arena-shooter genre from the 360.
@@mainstreetsaint36 saints row 2 dlc was great but you and other saints row fans deserved a complete game with the dlc already in it you can’t say it was a complete game and tho simultaneously say “the dlc was great” if there’s dlc then it’s not a complete game also paying for dlc is ridiculous
@@amarg7657 What made the DLC of SR2 a bit different was technically it wasn't needed to understand the game. Unlike most DLC which carries huge chunks of the main story. Either way, I wish they would give us another Saint's Row game like 2 again.
its more because popular games sucessor still arent released. Skyrim came out 13 years ago, the sucessor still takes a while to come out. GTA 5s sucessor also isnt avaiable right now.
Overpriced, boring, lack of creativity, forced politics, predatory microtransactions and rng mechanics, poor optimization, forced diversity, game devs being hostile to the customers... just to name a few.
Aside from “forced politics/diversity”, I strongly agree with you. I feel like the video games that are coming out or just over bloated garbage that cost way too much money and takes up way too much space on my computer. It’s way easier to play a game from 1998 and it is to play the soulless slop coming out this day and age.
Any card based game, and RPG (Japanese or western) utilize RNG mechanics. That's what decides if an attack hits or misses (the same is true with physical pen and paper RPGs (the dice are the random number generator)). Or what card gets drawn during a players turn.
Tango studios being shutting down after the Hi-fi rush success still baffles me. So even if you done everything right, you still may get the boot because of some top executive bullshit
@@w0t_m818 nah bro, he's only listing the pros of older games. That being said, having no forced diversity and/or pointless censoring of "offensive content" is definitely a good thing
@@Darmani2MB diversity is a good thing 🗿 I will admit games are becoming more generic though, but that's because of capitalism anyway, as if you want to maximise your potential profit you want to create products with as broad an appeal possible, meaning you don't want to exclude anyone with insensitive material and want to represent as many groups as possible, that's just business.
@@xavier5297 Vimms aint dead, i just downloaded Future Cop: LAPD from them. Other sites have already sprung up to offer what vimms cant. We're all good fam.
Which was already a thing. Most old games on GOG and Steam are unplayable, even with patches it's all outdated and dont work. Its been like this since the early days of Windows 7 the games were never ported over at all or never fixed properly for new OS or new systems.
Simple answer. About 10 years ago developers simultaneously got greedy and lazy. They saw that mobile games were profitable and now they are trying to make every game a whale trap with cosmetics and battle passes instead of focusing on FUN.
@@ryanfitzgerald9833 That doesn't change that they did it, just changes who made the decision. (And to be fair to your sentiment that I share, who is to blame.)
@@Etymon-jt3zw That's an interesting thing to say. Considering it was saved after white people basically destroyed it in the early '80s by Japanese people in the late '80s and early '90s. Or did you forget how Sega and Nintendo got bigger than Atari?
Remakes, prequels, unoriginality, lack of creativity, predatory microtransactions, anti-consumer practices, forced diversity, and game devs hating consumers, among other things. I've been playing Neverwinter Nights and a select few F2P MMOs while waiting for the game industry to regain common sense and imagination. That's right, a 20 year old game has been tying me over while weathering the crappy modern game industry storm. And it is doing an outstanding job of keeping me entertained.
I’m with you all the way ! I currently play Ultima VII both parts , Ultima underworld 1 & 2 , Ultima 8 , Daggerfall , Tron 2.0 , X-wing , Tie fighter , Thief 1 & 2 , Severance-Blade of darkness , Vietcong 1 & 2 , Medal of honor - Allied assault & Pacific assault. Imo , these games were made before the ”Greed” pandemic among publishers and developers.
Games still hold up, graphics are bareable. I love beat em ups from the PS2 era like Beat Down, God Hand, Def Jam, Yakuza... Here comes the pain and early Smackdown vs Raw games were simpler to play and more fun to me.
Also! You can buy hard drives for your older consoles that have every single game in there. There's literally no reason to get into their modern brainwashing depressing games of today
Right, as though food and other necessities aren't expensive enough. Now we're expected to buy these, for games we won't even own, many of them we wouldn't want to anyway. How hyped are some games that end up being complete flops, and how often now? They destroyed the future for arkham games, while even having a shell eject from a revolver. These developers are completely disrespectful towards the audience, the properties they're working with, then they try to shame us when their games fail. The entire "entertainment" industry is a joke right now, it literally cares nothing at all for the customer. Let the next crash occur, i think its for the best. Most people now are more interested in classics and indie games, not just for the price difference, but the quality.
That's what many studios overlook while focusing WAY to much on pushing graphics to the max investing hundreds of hours on that... Often times I find myself seeing a game I'm really interested in - for example on steam - and I'm one second away from hitting the Buy button and giving them my money, but then I look at the system requirements and be like "hmm.. nah I think my pc will burn" and I end up not buying it. Potential customer lost guys, whoops. Everyone's WAY to focused on graphics nowadays and we're at a point where we wouldn't even have to focus on that, bc nowadays it does look good anyway - so how about we get back to focusing on THE GAMES themselves instead of pushing boundaries, having more time to really putting love into it? Yeah. I think that's a good idea.
which is why cloud gaming is only going to get better and better. no need for high end expensive hardware when you can simply stream from the most expensive servers for very cheap.
I play older games because: 1) New games are expensive (especially when you live in Azerbaijan) 2) I am stuck with a 1050 ti laptop and must use it for 8 years (until 2027) 3) Old games offer better stories and experiences with the only downside being "bad" graphics
The used game market right now here in the States is wild. Same places are selling games that are a decade or two old for 2 or 3 times the original shelf price.
Honestly you can play AAA games on the deck too. Many developers are making games accessible on the deck. BG3 and elden ring are two of the best. Also older AAA titles are perfect too. Like the BioShock series.
I wouldn't exactly sing the praises of most indie/AA games either. Did you see last year's game awards show and this year's summer games fest? Almost all of them were indie/AA and most of them looked like trash.
@@modernmobster Sometimes you have to look for the good indies. Some might not be your cup of tea. But you still have older indies that you can play. Right now I'm enjoying Celeste and Hypnospace outlaw.
Always have. Only recent game I've purchased and enjoyed was Valheim a year ago. Dark Forces remaster was well done, but I always end up trotting out the retro gear every 5 years or so.
@daeocdomren9471 With all these stupid stuff these companies are doing I almost want us to have this video game crash in marketing if only to affect these companies.
Reason being is because game companies are forcing Online service requirement with these newer games, making it more difficult to enjoy the game on your own spare time.
@Filmore1991 It’s the shareholders that started all this nonsense, when the owner of a company figured it can make more money by screwing devs and customers over you’d be shocked that this isn’t anything any, it’s been going on since the retro era, every game is suppose to be longer but due to unrealistic deadlines this shit ruins gaming, I’ll give you a few examples ps2 version of shadow of the colossus and Deus ex the conspiracy, both games were suppose to be longer and due to time constraints they couldn’t fix out the issues Deus Ex is one of the few ps2 games that can sort lock during loading screens.
I'm 40, but I feel younger in a gamer way. Because of being homeschooled, my first video game experience was at university in 2003, so I've been a gamer for only twenty years instead of most of my life like most gamers.
@@criticalpixels Especially when they try to release the said "brand" while putting bare minimum with nothing exciting or new. Recycled same content, cheapest s#!t andworst of all, makes older titles bloated in comparison with features and content. Only those that dont care or have no standards will be purchasing these "modern" games, while the rest will enjoy older titles.
It’s not even that anything isn’t new. Millions of potential buyers are young and have no media literacy. All of this is new to them. That’s precisely why they’re falling for these tricks dude
Overpriced, boring/lack of creativity, predatory microtransactions, poor optimization, game studios having anti-consumer practices. That's just to name several reasons.
@@DoPe1906 haha i didn't notice that how obvious can he be. Who even wants likes that bad anyway? I've had comments with thousands of likes before and I couldn't care less lmao
So what's bad about darksouls 3, Elden Ring, RDR2, Starwars Jedi Survivor, BG 3, God of war 2018 and 2022, Legend of Zelda BotW/TotK, Hogwarts Legacy and so on? Why are those bad games? Please note that some of those games were in the most popular games of 2023 even managing to beat f2p games.
@@sapphicmystery2734 so in 10 years you only have 8 games worth playing? I do not count God of war because that game betrayed the original creators vision and HE himself does not like them and I don't either. So 8 games.. and the games you mention are established IPs Nintendo isn't woke but they do censor. Fromsoft isn't woke, Star wars.. RDR2.. R* first real release in close to 10 years.. BG3 cult following also made by larian who is a Indie developer, even they pandered to the woke mobs by changing genders to type A and B before release. I'm sure you can find more hidden gems worth playing but the point is we were getting banger after banger prior to 2014. Now we get live service, microtransactions, deluxe edition DLC that's more skins. Tbh I could go all day.
@@gingersbeer1 Fallout 4, Spiderman 1+2, Alan wake 2, Armored Core 6, Remnant 2, Hogwarts Legacy, (Sea of stars and octopath travellers 2), Lies of P, One piece Odyssey, Hi-Fi Rush, Marvel Midnight Suns, Street fighter 6, Super Mario Wonders, Amnesia: The Bunker, Darkest Dungeon 2, Warhammer 40k Rogue Trader, FF16, Ghostrunner 2 are all insanely good games that all released in 2023 alone. I'm sure that you will find a way to explain them away for you but explaining one of the best games of all time away (according to metacritic) by "mimimimimimimi original creator says its bad so I cant think for myself" is just not a healthy mindset to go through in life. You will always find a way to rationalise the best games of all time to be bad. I can do the same: Ac revelation and brotherhood? Builds on an already existing franchise. All Fallout games besides 1? Existing Franchises. Far Cry 2-4? Sorry. Every single Nintendo game? Nope, Nintendo BAD REEEEEEEEEE. Every single game that isnt the introduction to a franchise? Nah, sorry cant be counted. Sorry, but you're never gonna be the audience ANY game dev wants to target. You will never receive a new good game. Meanwhile we'll gourge ourselves on games like Helldivers 2, Eldenring, Sekiro, Rockstar games and all the other insanely high quality games that we just had in 2023.
Inflation, people having built they're backlog over the years, more and more games becoming second jobs/live services, and smaller games offering complete experience it's no wonder why gamers and pwople stick eith older games.
While I love playing GT7 and Horizon Forbidden West, I have spent far more money this year on collecting physical PS4 and Xbox 360 games for the future. I spend easily 80% of my gaming time playing older games, I just completed a campaign playthrough of Halo 3 and CoD Infinite Warfare last week.
same here🙌🏽 ive been glued to def jam and the warriors for a week straight now😂 i also connect my xbox controller to my phone so its basically like playing the same way as back then
I played games my entire life, now I am almost 40, I am done. Done done done, I may pick up and play a classic but the days of waiting on new stuff are over.
Don't give up! We may not be in a golden era of new releases, but as a whole, I think gaming is really thriving... Emulators are better than ever, you can pick up an old 360/PS3 for cheap, indies are great, Steam sales of games from 5~10 years ago and so on. I might make a video about that soon.
100% agree, the PS2/early to mid X360 era were the golden age of gaming, after which it got progressive worse. i play the occasional new/newish game but i play mostly older games from 2010s and 2000's...sometimes even the 90's. console emulation on pc is another wonderful thing and i love playing those "stuck only on console" games too.
Madden 2007: One of the best American Football games ever made. Nascar Racing Season 2003: The best Nascar racing sim. Need For Speed Most Wanted 2005: An amazing arcade racer with some of the best police ai ever. Super Mario Bros. 3 1990: One of, if not the best, 2D platformer. Grand Theft Auto San Andreas 2004: The literal best selling game on the Playstation 2.
I love how 17 year olds in the comment section say I went back to old games because 'nostalgia' when in reality I never stopped playing them in the first place I first played Mario Kart Wii online around 2009 and still played it online regularly until 2022 when my Wii melted. I also played GTA SA since 2005 and still play multiplayer and watch streams. I still play GTA 4 and cause chaos whenever I'm having a bad day. I play Black Ops 3 zombies with my friends nearly every day. There's absolutely no reason for me to stop playing them if I still enjoy them
Agreed, I think many games from the 6th gen onwards have aged really well. I can boot up Winning Eleven 10 or some Mario Kart from that era and play for hours, not because I'm just feeling nostalgic, but cuz I'm having fun.
Man, reading this has me wanting to pull out my GameCube and revisit Mario Kart: Double Dash. That game has a strategy that none of the other games in that series does. Instead of one driver, you have two characters you can swap between, and all of the characters have some kind of exclusive item they can collect from item boxes.
NEVER been a better time to be a patient gamer... someone still on the last generation (or even earlier), buying only the absolute best/time-tested games, all at rock bottom prices
The AAA games industry has become very corporate and risk-averse. It's becoming increasingly distant from the people it sells to, so now there are whole departments that handle different aspects of "the customer side of things", while the actual decision makers are stereotypical suits who really only care about profits and politics. Meanwhile the customer has become more cynical and smaller developers have been squeezed by an ever more crowded market. There have been some really bad trends.
That's true. I played Onrush for the first time recently and I was really disappointed that it didn't have a split screen feature. To add insult to injury, the servers are no longer online.
I remember playing splitscreen games with my brother and friends when I was younger. Most fun you can ever have in gaming. Now i'm too old and it would be tough to organize such an event, but it is how gaming was "meant" to be played. I get that feeling when I play board games now instead.
Which also only got taken away due to the corporate greed. You can still play coop. You just have to buy a second copy, another console, another tv and we pushed the graphics way too hard and didnt optimize, so it cant handle split screen, but we did this to give you a "better experience". Id take lower end graphics for split screen any day, and no way am I wasting all that money to get extra copies and equipment to play your crappy game. There is a reason why "It Takes Two" won game of the year.
Market oversaturation. Too many games trying to replicate the success of existing hit games, competing for the same customer base. Publishers refuse to take risks with big budget games, sticking to proven but stale ideas. The charts are topped by evergreen titles that dominate their own genre by offering a unique experience. Also, the current console generation has failed, lmao. People see no value in owning the latest consoles, as they offer nothing new.
The middle class is shrinking -- and it has been since the 1970s, but it really kicked into high gear after the 2008 mortgage crisis and again after the pandemic -- and most of that shrinkage is feeding into the lower class. This is affecting who can afford what and how games are being made.
I don't think most of the industry is reacting to that reality. So I don't think it's having much impact on how games are made yet. At least in the sense that one would expect them to slow down on huge expensive projects and aim for a big spread of moderately priced projects that could be sold profitably at lower prices. One would expect more small scale 40-50 dollars at launch titles with smaller teams and budgets, as that can easily get ROI overall even if several of them fail. For the price of 1 AAA game, they can pump out a dozen of these 'AA' or even 'A' games, and even a couple being moderate successes turns out as much or more net profit than the single AAA barring runaway success (think Fortnight) that's highly unlikely. But I don't see that going on so far, which is unfortunate for them and their investors.
@@brkbtjunkie oh look, another blind sheep who thinks the whole world is hunkydory and instead is living through Earth's transformation into a hellscape.
Greed is ruining gaming. Microtransactions, live services, massively inflated prices despite the cost to sell games has fallen to virtually nothing thanks to going digital, games designed for engagement rather than be fun and respect your time. Unfortunately this is the result of capitalism and the right doesn't want people to question capitalism so they do what they always do and use minorities as a scapegoat. It's always sad to see just how effective it is with certain groups of people :(
Stories like Metal Gear Solid 1998, Chrono Cross 1999, Gears of War 2006, Elder Scrolls Oblivion 2006 Let’s not forget the cool graphics Soul Calibur had on the DreamCast … Those were the days
Maybe not games that got released on consoles before the video game crash of 1982. From that crash to the start of the 2010's however, bad games tended to be genuine mistakes. People behind them generally put their souls into them. Nowadays, we have the impression that bad games got sabotaged on purpose because of laziness and greed
All of the NPCs and the BOTs who have been shaming real people with opinions about “nostalgia” are all real quiet lately. Don’t ever listen to these losers again
@@ross3695_basedhax I have encountered this mentality my entire lifetime. I have been a witness of many collective dismissals which have lead to the current state of things. This mentality of shaming those who criticize new products isn’t just people being naive or settling for mediocrity. It’s a targeted and calculated effort to promote new products while undermining what came previously. Unfortunately there are many mouth breathers and people so desperate to fit in they will associate with bot comments online or give their entire life story underneath a music video, TV clip, etc. it’s all “free” advertising. These people are either insane or they’re literally shills getting paid to troll genuine fans who can see the writing on the wall. After enough time of shadow banning people and seeing all the really stupid comments get promoted nobody who has anything to say even wants to make comments anymore out of fear of getting called negative or shadow banned for colorful language meanwhile the most degenerate comments are allowed under the right context. That just allows these companies who have all the power to manipulate people like we’re just data instead of using all that time, money, and understanding to deliver a good product. To them their sales are guaranteed and whales will make up for the rest. Gaming as a whole has turned into interactive money making software and it’ll only get worse.
Speaking only for myself the money has literally 0 to do with playing older games and everything to do with preferring to play finished games. Saving money is just a great bi-product of not pre ordering or buying unfinished games on launch. I'd happily pay more than the normal full price for a game on launch if I knew I got everything included and the game worked as advertised. Cyberpunk is probably the game I've been the most hyped about ever, and I was so disappointed when I read the reviews that came out on launch. I haven't bought it yet, but I know my experience will be incredibly more enjoyable when I do in the near future....and I'll probably get it and all DLC at 75% discount in the process.
I was really hyped for Cyberpunk as well, but then decided to wait and finally played it after the 2.0 patch and the Phantom Liberty DLC. It was a great experience and I even got the platinum for the base game, but wow, what a horrible launch it was.
Older games had more creativity. As someone who has been playing video games since 1990 or 1991, I have seen how over the last 3+ decades gaming has changed for the worse. Don’t get me wrong there are still good video games that come out today but it’s nothing like it was in the 90’s and 00’s. Developers had less to work with which pushed them to be more creative in their approach to making games. Most of my favorite games are from 2-3 decades ago and not just because I grew up with them. It’s too many politics, copy and pasting, and focus on graphical fidelity over prioritizing gameplay nowadays. If a game is pretty but the gameplay sucks or it’s just copying another game it loses its substance. Putting all these politics and microtransactions in games is destroying gaming. I still have a wonderful time going back to my ps1 or original Xbox and remembering when gaming was truly in a better place.
Also because of the advancement of flash carts, you can now play every retro game ever for your older consoles. Many times when you were just a kid you only had around 10 games, but the console had 1,000 games. This means that there were tons of older games that you never had a chance to play. But thanks to flash carts and emulation, now you can play all of these older games that you missed out on.
I think that's a solid part of it. People have the entire 'best of' catalogues open to them, and with the financial crunch and stressed state they're in, they go for something highly efficient and solidly proven.
As English isn't my first language, I'd also add the impact of fan made translations. If you gave up on a game as a kid because it was in English or Japanese, you can now often play it on an emulator or modded console with a decent translation.
@@criticalpixels Some of the best games I've played are Japanese only games which eventually got a fan hack translation so that now english players and enjoy it too.
most of the new games I play come from independent developers like Freedom Planet 2 , Selaco and cultic , games that take only 10 , 20 or 30 hours to finish but also come with a fair low price even when you buy them without a discount , Indie does what big AAA studio stopped doing , great experience that doesn't overstay their welcome just for long term engagement and microtransactions.
Ive been playing games for 40 years and I've watched the growth of the industry over that time. The moment Spore was released with the first DRM i knew the writing was on the wall. Now we have all the horrible AAAA games with bare gameplay and addictive microtransactions. The gaming world has stagnated like so many other industries once the popularity hits a certain amount. Corporate greed has always been there but now they know they can get away with these horrible practices.
I think the first reasons you mentioned are about most of it. Folks are simply sick of shelling out 60-70 bucks on an unfinished product or a game that might be bricked if they turn off the servers to it.
I think it’s also cause somebody were discovering some older games that were overlooked when they were younger and now it’s interesting. There’s games from like the UK America and Japan that are so good. You have to go all the way back to the 70s up to now.
I’ve recently got a HDMI upscaler for my GameCube & loving it! I have also gone back to games I played back in the day but never completed or games I just never got round to buying because money. It’s amazing how old games feel like the made the correct decisions to prioritise gameplay and content over anything else.
modding community can turn what had been a 60 dollar game back in 2008 into what could arguably be a 300 dollar game with the sheer amount of extra modded content.
Last year I brought a Steamdeck and most of the games I have played have been classics from the 6th and 7th generation. The system has given a new lease of life to older games
How do you play them properly? U got them online or do u use discs? If so Wich CD drive do you use? Ik about the right emulators but it's hard to get the games working on it. Don't give me an exact manual just a hint what to do
Most people play older games mainly because they are just fun to play, Fallout New Vegas and the older Fallout games are good examples of this, those games are a blast to play no matter how many times you replay it, most companies nowadays are running out of ideas for games and mostly turn to remakes of their older games or a badly made sequel.
I've been a gamer for 40 years. At this stage of my life, with two young kids and responsibilities at an all time high, I only have about an hour to play in any given day. Getting into and learning a whole new game just feels overwhelming. It's far simpler and more relaxing to just stick with what I know and play something out of my old catalog.
The modern industry has been killing itself with approaches and goals nobody asked for. Them trying to prevent risk to the extreme and follow trends has increased their chance of failure.
To describe video games as young is crazy but so very ture. There's only like 50 years of gaming and that's crazy to think about seeing how i overseen like half of it.
To answer the question of why older media as a whole dominates the charts, I think the simple explanation is familiarity. It is far easier to rewatch a classic television show, or replay a favorite title from ten years ago, than to put in the effort of trying something new. Here’s what it comes down to: if you’ve experienced that show or video game in the past, then you know exactly what to expect when going back to it. You know what the plot twists are. You know what the characters are like. You know the controls, the mechanics, how to beat the boss fights, where to find the secrets, so on and so forth. And most importantly of all: by going back to something old, you _already know_ that you’re going to have a good time with it. Because you had a good time, the _last time_ you went back to it. It takes a lot of work to get into a new show or game. Having to learn the plot, memorizing who the characters are, playing through the slow-ass tutorial, figuring out what you’re supposed to in order to progress. All of those things act as barriers or obstacles that get in the way of your goal, which is to be entertained. To have fun. So why not cut all of those problems out by just going back and rewatching or replaying something you’ve already seen before, instead? I think this has always been the case with entertainment, and always will be, regardless of whether or not the ‘new stuff’ is good or not. People argue that “old stuff was better”, but even when they have new experiences that are collectively agreed upon to be great, so many will _still_ choose the old stuff. “Oh, in my backlog I’ve got The Witcher 3, and Elden Ring, and God of War: Ragnarok, and Hi-Fi Rush, and Doom Eternal, and… hm… nah, I’m just gonna go do my 7th playthrough of Mass Effect 2!” Like, you get what I mean? People build up these massive backlogs, and then continue to prioritize games they’ve already finished long ago, or go back to [insert live service game here]. The quality of new releases isn’t driving people into replaying old games. They’re doing it because they’re lazy - like we all are, inherently. We don’t even want to put effort into having fun.
"The quality of new releases isn’t driving people into replaying old games. They’re doing it because they’re lazy - like we all are, inherently. We don’t even want to put effort into having fun." ... but that only holds water if people know that the new games aren't a safe bet for fun. You posit people don't want to put effort into having fun. I would counter point that easy fun used to be the standard for videogames. Considering how streamlined and simplified most modern releases are, the idea that people don't want to put in the effort to learn a newer game becomes highly questionable. Topping that off, many people are turning to older games that they did not play before now. While I'll grant you that people have been going back to older games for some of the reasons you've highlighted (Sure thing, ease of entry.), this trend is new. That means either this trend massively increased in prevalence recently, or the trend of playing new games massively fell off recently. (Or a mix of both as is likely the case.) It's not a case of 'this is new' but 'this amount of this choice is new' being brought up.
I think you both made great points, but I agree with @Sorain1. Some people actually go out of their way to play an older game, having to look for fixes, mods, patches, and so on. From an ease of use perspective, it would be much more comfortable to just install the latest God of War or Hi-Fi Rush. These newer games often come with quality of life features that many old games lack, such as frequent autosaves and various assist options. On the other hand, some new games (God of War) have a bad replay value, with some story focused sections that might be okay for the first time, but are really slow and annoying on a second playthrough.
We play to game to relieve stress and escape reality for a time. And I'm not playing a game made by an activist designed to lecture me with their self-inserted political views.
The Folden Age of gaming was 1995-2005. Before the microtransactions of today and the arcade games that were designed to suck quarters away at an alarming rate.
A lot of game designers today think all you need is state-of-the-art graphics, bombastic effects, epic battles, and you are done. But often you wonder if these designers have ever played their own game for more than 10 minutes in a row, and if they have, you really want to ask them, "Now explain to me how this is supposed to be fun?" Sure, it looks good, but it's boring AF! Repeated missions, hours of grinding, boring journeys through empty landscapes, pay-to-win systems, useless item upgrades, reused assets, poor voice acting, and zero creativity as everything looks copied from other games. The most important part of a game is entertainment and variety. Everything else about a game can suck, but these two are essential. If a game isn't fun to play, it's useless. And if a game has no variety, it will soon become boring, no matter how much fun it was in the beginning.
Why were people playing older games in 2023? My guess would be because newer modern games are poorly optimized and require high amounts of VRAM along with the fact that NVIDIA cards cost so damn much in ratio to the amount of VRAM given
That's a good point. Many people would rather play an older game at max settings with stable performance than struggle with a new release with poor optimization.
@@michaelhart2575 that’s true even some nivida backed games like rotr maxed out at 1080p reaches 7gb vram and it’s a game from 2016 As far as latest games are concerned re4 remake is held back by 8gb vram limit and the trend will continue as long they force us to use upscalers as an excuse for optimization Baffles me that people are happily buying 4K marketed cards which can only do upscaled 4K which in actuality is somewhere closer to 2k and back then if someone did that it would be called a scam Only the enthusiast end cards can do real 4K but then again it all boils down to that native rendering should become the focus again than using gimmicks
Bro the answer is on the surface! Overpriced copy paste From same brands all over again. Never ending life service garbage with battle passes, loot boxes, “premium” skins, early access to the weapons/characters, same map that been “fixed” all over again and again. What else... OH A MASSIVE PREMIUM STORE ON HOME PAGE. Never ending “score” page after match, 3 clicks to close it than face battle pass bar, with skins that you can get if you buy it, even more useless menus and tabs before you can come back to lobby to start this crap again. I don’t even know man, what could it be...
These UIs filled with icons, pop-up windows, notifications (red dots, exclamation marks), text and, in F2P games, bunch of gameplay features that I need to study separately to know how to use them in match (MOBA games are filled with them), make my blood boil.
why we choose older games over new ones? thats so easy to answer, we prefer good games with good stories and none of the woke stuff we have today. plus game quality has dropped drastically over the last decade. yeah visually things may look great but the message most games give now days is just wokeneess turned up too 11
@DavyChapman are you seriously whining about the color of bullets? We've had transgender representation in video game characters for almost 40 years and now you're noticing 💀 I suppose your answer to this would be more censorship?
I play older games because: - I can't afford a "buffed up PC" - Downloading an older game is far faster and easier. - Old games aren't just about "Graphics", they have a better story and, less bugs, non of those "DLC" BS, "Patches" and etc. (If you wanna release a game, just test it properly, and not afterwards just for the devs to patch it constantly, and leaving users to download 500 MBs to 1 GBs of Patches or Fixes)
It goes even deeper than this for me - I like playing older games that I have already played before more than playing old games I haven't played before. I like the familiarity, breezing through and making my skills at the same games even better. My copy of Super Mario Bros. for NES that I've had for years gets a lot more use than my copy of Snake Rattle N Roll that I got from a used game store a couple years ago.
Playing GTA 4 rn, way better than anything I've played in the last 4 years. I somehow missed it back in the day and there's probably 80 other games the last 15 years I wanna play through, not to mention 30 or so RPGs. There's just not enough time to play these new shiny games that honestly kind of blow. These gaming companies aren't taking any risks, where's the games like RE that when released in the 90's created an entirely new genre.
There's barely anything coming out worth buying that isn't either an agenda driven requel/remake of an existing game, a sanitized, censored remaster of an existing game, or an original game filled with all that, plus the predatory microtransactions, cluster truck of bugs, and half-baked storytelling. And just the complete disrespect to video game characters by making the female characters look like men, and emasculating the male characters. (You ever stop to wonder if the people gaslighting you for speaking out on it actually play games?) There's too much to explain why there ought to be a two-year boycott for modern games. Sure, the normies might buy it, but real fans won't tolerate the blatant disrespect to the IP and fans of said IP. We can go back and play the older games, and there's also a lot of good Indie games on Steam. They need OUR money to keep going, not Blackrock's.
"Why is everyone playing old games ? " The reasons stated in the video are of course perfectly valid, but I would like to add these: 1. There are a shit-ton of good games among them, some being true classics 2. A lot of gamers have a huge backlog of older games in their Steam/Epic/GoG libraires they never played before and re-discover 3. Older games are cheaper to purchase, sometimes even waaaayyy cheaper or free 4. They were either already bugfree from their release date on, or have had the time to be fully patched by now 5. They run ultra-smoothly on any current mid-spec hardware, and some even on low-spec configs 6. A lot of newer games push the hardware to its limits, and less and less people have the money to blindly follow the hardware "improvement" craze
It's simple. Older games were made to be fun. New games are made to make money
All games are made to make money💀
you're not serious💀
Agreed, but companies are more interested in pushing something out faster rather than paying attention to quality or considering developer's passion.
@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24
There's a difference between releasing a good product for price x and asking for price x to get a usually buggy game that feels unfinished, but you can get the complete experience if you get the season pass for more money.
Look at gta 5 for example. Huge success, no DLC, still played today. If you take CoD as the "opponent": season pass, no single player, new one every year.
Sure both want to make money, but one of the examples respects its customers.
@@rebel4466 so games weren’t buggy in the old days? Y’all need to stop that nostalgia bias. And GTA did have dlc and it’s live service, cod has single player. Honestly bro you can do better than that
I used to go into a store to find a game, but now I go into a game to find a store.
Great analogy!
This needs to be on a shirt
this goes so hard
AZTECROSS :D
Excelente!
I AINT PAYIN 70 DOLLARS FOR A MOVIE
Especially if it's not a complete game
just pirate it?
@@danita122 good idea to priate 100 gb or more cinamtic movie game
My major complaint for 'The Last of Us' in a nutshell. It's a movie with gameplay as an afterthought, it was already using the outdated arena-shooter genre from the 360.
@@zerosam5541 yeeaah what a problem
A lot of older games were actually finished and not rushed. Plus the games now are filled with microtransactions and have no good new ideas.
YUP dlcs make no sense I wanta. Finished game
@@amarg7657 Not always. Saint's Row 2 had amazing DLC that had incredible story and gameplay. The main game was still complete on disc though.
@@mainstreetsaint36 saints row 2 dlc was great but you and other saints row fans deserved a complete game with the dlc already in it you can’t say it was a complete game and tho simultaneously say “the dlc was great” if there’s dlc then it’s not a complete game also paying for dlc is ridiculous
@@amarg7657 What made the DLC of SR2 a bit different was technically it wasn't needed to understand the game. Unlike most DLC which carries huge chunks of the main story. Either way, I wish they would give us another Saint's Row game like 2 again.
Older games were rushed, let's not pretend they don't
Modern games are not made to be fun. They are produced and developed from the group up to squeeze as much money as possible from the gamer.
Yep! Gameplay is structured around making money than enjoyment for the consumer.
its more because popular games sucessor still arent released. Skyrim came out 13 years ago, the sucessor still takes a while to come out.
GTA 5s sucessor also isnt avaiable right now.
I’d say Fortnite fits that definition perfectly, but it’s the number 1 most played game. So, I don’t think that’s the answer.
And to monopolize their time
EA Sports.
Overpriced, boring, lack of creativity, forced politics, predatory microtransactions and rng mechanics, poor optimization, forced diversity, game devs being hostile to the customers... just to name a few.
Aside from “forced politics/diversity”, I strongly agree with you. I feel like the video games that are coming out or just over bloated garbage that cost way too much money and takes up way too much space on my computer. It’s way easier to play a game from 1998 and it is to play the soulless slop coming out this day and age.
@@billyyank1916I mean the force diversity/politics One of the most number one things ruining video games now.
Any card based game, and RPG (Japanese or western) utilize RNG mechanics. That's what decides if an attack hits or misses (the same is true with physical pen and paper RPGs (the dice are the random number generator)). Or what card gets drawn during a players turn.
@@MikeJAk49 Only in the eyes of racist whites.
I feel these are the main ones.
Because we are not consumers we are human beings..
Games from the 90s to the mid-00s have aged incredibly well and are still more fun than today's games
Startropics from 1990 on NES holds up shockingly well.
late 2000's*
2004-2009 was peak
@@LimeGuy101 no
@@Jinx_Skeel yes, 90% of the old games we play are from that era, it was truly peak gaming.
@@BxPanda7 who's "we" ? 90s >>>> 00s any day of the week
Tango studios being shutting down after the Hi-fi rush success still baffles me. So even if you done everything right, you still may get the boot because of some top executive bullshit
They didn’t do everything right which is why they’re gone get over it
For those that don't know anything about it what can you tell us?@@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24
For older games:
1. They're cheaper
2. They're patched.
3. No sweet baby incs
Also they are much better then the newest triple A money grabbing attempt that is modern games
Thinking the problem is black and gay people in games over the games being over-monetised and unfinished is certainly a take 🙄
@@w0t_m818 nah bro, he's only listing the pros of older games. That being said, having no forced diversity and/or pointless censoring of "offensive content" is definitely a good thing
@@Darmani2MB there is literally no problem with diversity in games, only terminally online nerd man children are mad about that.
@@Darmani2MB diversity is a good thing 🗿
I will admit games are becoming more generic though, but that's because of capitalism anyway, as if you want to maximise your potential profit you want to create products with as broad an appeal possible, meaning you don't want to exclude anyone with insensitive material and want to represent as many groups as possible, that's just business.
"People played more old games in 2023"
The ESA: "Oh shit, we gotta cut their access to them!"
R.I.P Vimms
@@xavier5297 Vimms aint dead, i just downloaded Future Cop: LAPD from them. Other sites have already sprung up to offer what vimms cant. We're all good fam.
Where one falls, five more sprout in their place.
Which was already a thing. Most old games on GOG and Steam are unplayable, even with patches it's all outdated and dont work. Its been like this since the early days of Windows 7 the games were never ported over at all or never fixed properly for new OS or new systems.
Vimns is my favorite site. Sad to see some of it's games taken down for little to no reason.
I'm about to play sleeping dogs for the first time on the PS3..... Sony will never know the console is offline
Enjoy. You will have fun
You're in for a treat.
Great game!
I just uploaded the Nordic edition,and to my surprise,the code was still valid!
I need to add that obe to my list I never played it
Simple answer. About 10 years ago developers simultaneously got greedy and lazy. They saw that mobile games were profitable and now they are trying to make every game a whale trap with cosmetics and battle passes instead of focusing on FUN.
I have a feeling that is not something developers did. As much as it is, something investor s and CEOs insisted upon
@@ryanfitzgerald9833 That doesn't change that they did it, just changes who made the decision. (And to be fair to your sentiment that I share, who is to blame.)
I noticed this too picked up a few new games bcuz they look good and interesting. They are repetitive and hard but nice looking game. It gets old.
DEI hired destroy the gaming industry.
@@Etymon-jt3zw That's an interesting thing to say. Considering it was saved after white people basically destroyed it in the early '80s by Japanese people in the late '80s and early '90s. Or did you forget how Sega and Nintendo got bigger than Atari?
Remakes, prequels, unoriginality, lack of creativity, predatory microtransactions, anti-consumer practices, forced diversity, and game devs hating consumers, among other things. I've been playing Neverwinter Nights and a select few F2P MMOs while waiting for the game industry to regain common sense and imagination. That's right, a 20 year old game has been tying me over while weathering the crappy modern game industry storm. And it is doing an outstanding job of keeping me entertained.
dead space remake was fucking beast
Neverwinter Nights rocks! I'm back at the old gold box SSI games and it feels like heaven
I’m with you all the way ! I currently play Ultima VII both parts , Ultima underworld 1 & 2 , Ultima 8 , Daggerfall , Tron 2.0 , X-wing , Tie fighter , Thief 1 & 2 , Severance-Blade of darkness , Vietcong 1 & 2 , Medal of honor - Allied assault & Pacific assault. Imo , these games were made before the ”Greed” pandemic among publishers and developers.
With how good PS2 and GameCube emulation has gotten over the last two years that's where all my time has gone
Games still hold up, graphics are bareable. I love beat em ups from the PS2 era like Beat Down, God Hand, Def Jam, Yakuza... Here comes the pain and early Smackdown vs Raw games were simpler to play and more fun to me.
Also! You can buy hard drives for your older consoles that have every single game in there. There's literally no reason to get into their modern brainwashing depressing games of today
Shout out to Duckstation, PCSX2 and Dolphin, they saved me from consuming depressing political unoriginal copy paste SLOP.
Unsustainable Greed.
There is also the reason that we dont have the high end hardware needed for current day aaa games.
yeah and the prices of said new end hardwares isn't making things easy for us
Right, as though food and other necessities aren't expensive enough. Now we're expected to buy these, for games we won't even own, many of them we wouldn't want to anyway. How hyped are some games that end up being complete flops, and how often now? They destroyed the future for arkham games, while even having a shell eject from a revolver. These developers are completely disrespectful towards the audience, the properties they're working with, then they try to shame us when their games fail. The entire "entertainment" industry is a joke right now, it literally cares nothing at all for the customer. Let the next crash occur, i think its for the best. Most people now are more interested in classics and indie games, not just for the price difference, but the quality.
That's what many studios overlook while focusing WAY to much on pushing graphics to the max investing hundreds of hours on that... Often times I find myself seeing a game I'm really interested in - for example on steam - and I'm one second away from hitting the Buy button and giving them my money, but then I look at the system requirements and be like "hmm.. nah I think my pc will burn" and I end up not buying it. Potential customer lost guys, whoops. Everyone's WAY to focused on graphics nowadays and we're at a point where we wouldn't even have to focus on that, bc nowadays it does look good anyway - so how about we get back to focusing on THE GAMES themselves instead of pushing boundaries, having more time to really putting love into it? Yeah. I think that's a good idea.
which is why cloud gaming is only going to get better and better. no need for high end expensive hardware when you can simply stream from the most expensive servers for very cheap.
@@ChickenMcThiccken
You will own nothing and be happy, that's all I see from cloud gaming.
I play older games because:
1) New games are expensive (especially when you live in Azerbaijan)
2) I am stuck with a 1050 ti laptop and must use it for 8 years (until 2027)
3) Old games offer better stories and experiences with the only downside being "bad" graphics
The used game market right now here in the States is wild. Same places are selling games that are a decade or two old for 2 or 3 times the original shelf price.
Just wondering. Why 8 years? You are paying it off?
Why 8 yrs?
How well can the 1050ti run the games you play? I used to have a 1650 notebook and remember feeling quite satisfy with its performance
8 years oddly specific
I own a PS5 with over 150+ Games on it and I'm just enjoying my PS2 and PS3 a lot.
skate 3 on ps3 xd, black ops 1, need for speed carbon, portal 2..... do I need to say more?
@@duff0120 Honestly you don't have enough time to say all the good games from the PS2 and PS3 generations 😂
@@RelentlessGaming2000 my favorite ps2 game is resident evil 4
I hope you bought them physicaly. Because if not, you're not owning them)
Didn't know the PS5 had so many games...
Honestly, great times for us gamers who prefer older games and Indy over modern AAA, all you need is a Steamdeck (or a cheap pc) and internet access.
Exactly. Between emulators and steam deals, the deck rocks!!!!
Honestly you can play AAA games on the deck too. Many developers are making games accessible on the deck. BG3 and elden ring are two of the best. Also older AAA titles are perfect too. Like the BioShock series.
I wouldn't exactly sing the praises of most indie/AA games either. Did you see last year's game awards show and this year's summer games fest? Almost all of them were indie/AA and most of them looked like trash.
@@modernmobster Sometimes you have to look for the good indies. Some might not be your cup of tea. But you still have older indies that you can play. Right now I'm enjoying Celeste and Hypnospace outlaw.
@@AI-Creations-LLCOh really? And why would we play AAA games in the steamdeck when they're trash? 😂
Focus
Cause today's "games" suck. It's simple as that.
Nice to know it's not just me going back to previous consoles and handhelds more than ever.
Always have. Only recent game I've purchased and enjoyed was Valheim a year ago. Dark Forces remaster was well done, but I always end up trotting out the retro gear every 5 years or so.
@daeocdomren9471 With all these stupid stuff these companies are doing I almost want us to have this video game crash in marketing if only to affect these companies.
Reason being is because game companies are forcing Online service requirement with these newer games, making it more difficult to enjoy the game on your own spare time.
@Filmore1991 It’s the shareholders that started all this nonsense, when the owner of a company figured it can make more money by screwing devs and customers over you’d be shocked that this isn’t anything any, it’s been going on since the retro era, every game is suppose to be longer but due to unrealistic deadlines this shit ruins gaming, I’ll give you a few examples ps2 version of shadow of the colossus and Deus ex the conspiracy, both games were suppose to be longer and due to time constraints they couldn’t fix out the issues Deus Ex is one of the few ps2 games that can sort lock during loading screens.
All the top games being played are online games…
"Older games" brother I played these when they came out 😂 feel so old now and I'm only in my mid 30s 😢
I'm 40, but I feel younger in a gamer way. Because of being homeschooled, my first video game experience was at university in 2003, so I've been a gamer for only twenty years instead of most of my life like most gamers.
Because there’s no new ideas that’s why we are having these problems. Have you notice that Hollywood is having the same problem?
Yep... And just relying on a well-known brand isn't enough anymore, as recent releases like The Marvels and Furiosa have shown us.
lol 😂
@@criticalpixels Especially when they try to release the said "brand" while putting bare minimum with nothing exciting or new.
Recycled same content, cheapest s#!t andworst of all, makes older titles bloated in comparison with features and content.
Only those that dont care or have no standards will be purchasing these "modern" games, while the rest will enjoy older titles.
It’s not even that anything isn’t new. Millions of potential buyers are young and have no media literacy. All of this is new to them. That’s precisely why they’re falling for these tricks dude
@@criticalpixelssame goes for Final Fantasy, ESPECIALLY FINAL FANTASY 7
You know it's bad when pokemon stadium looks better than every switch pokemon game
Patience and Artstyle is better than poly count and fifty games a year
Overpriced, boring/lack of creativity, predatory microtransactions, poor optimization, game studios having anti-consumer practices. That's just to name several reasons.
on top of ruining established character designs in favour of aberrant designs and aberrant flags that is not tolerable for many people
Why are you stealing comments? This comment is top comment you just reworded it for likes.
Sad guy
Stealing top comments over here
@@MrFriendlyCsgoContenthe even commented under the Comment he stole, before stealing it 😂
@@DoPe1906 haha i didn't notice that how obvious can he be.
Who even wants likes that bad anyway? I've had comments with thousands of likes before and I couldn't care less lmao
Modern greed. You get three times more value playing a game made before 2014
Fun fact about your comment 2014 is when DEI started to be incorporated
@@gingersbeer1 not only that but live service and microtransactions were also added. This is precisely why I said 2014 👊
So what's bad about darksouls 3, Elden Ring, RDR2, Starwars Jedi Survivor, BG 3, God of war 2018 and 2022, Legend of Zelda BotW/TotK, Hogwarts Legacy and so on? Why are those bad games? Please note that some of those games were in the most popular games of 2023 even managing to beat f2p games.
@@sapphicmystery2734 so in 10 years you only have 8 games worth playing? I do not count God of war because that game betrayed the original creators vision and HE himself does not like them and I don't either. So 8 games.. and the games you mention are established IPs Nintendo isn't woke but they do censor. Fromsoft isn't woke, Star wars.. RDR2.. R* first real release in close to 10 years.. BG3 cult following also made by larian who is a Indie developer, even they pandered to the woke mobs by changing genders to type A and B before release.
I'm sure you can find more hidden gems worth playing but the point is we were getting banger after banger prior to 2014.
Now we get live service, microtransactions, deluxe edition DLC that's more skins.
Tbh I could go all day.
@@gingersbeer1 Fallout 4, Spiderman 1+2, Alan wake 2, Armored Core 6, Remnant 2, Hogwarts Legacy, (Sea of stars and octopath travellers 2), Lies of P, One piece Odyssey, Hi-Fi Rush, Marvel Midnight Suns, Street fighter 6, Super Mario Wonders, Amnesia: The Bunker, Darkest Dungeon 2, Warhammer 40k Rogue Trader, FF16, Ghostrunner 2 are all insanely good games that all released in 2023 alone. I'm sure that you will find a way to explain them away for you but explaining one of the best games of all time away (according to metacritic) by "mimimimimimimi original creator says its bad so I cant think for myself" is just not a healthy mindset to go through in life. You will always find a way to rationalise the best games of all time to be bad.
I can do the same: Ac revelation and brotherhood? Builds on an already existing franchise. All Fallout games besides 1? Existing Franchises. Far Cry 2-4? Sorry. Every single Nintendo game? Nope, Nintendo BAD REEEEEEEEEE. Every single game that isnt the introduction to a franchise? Nah, sorry cant be counted.
Sorry, but you're never gonna be the audience ANY game dev wants to target. You will never receive a new good game. Meanwhile we'll gourge ourselves on games like Helldivers 2, Eldenring, Sekiro, Rockstar games and all the other insanely high quality games that we just had in 2023.
Inflation, people having built they're backlog over the years, more and more games becoming second jobs/live services, and smaller games offering complete experience it's no wonder why gamers and pwople stick eith older games.
While I love playing GT7 and Horizon Forbidden West, I have spent far more money this year on collecting physical PS4 and Xbox 360 games for the future. I spend easily 80% of my gaming time playing older games, I just completed a campaign playthrough of Halo 3 and CoD Infinite Warfare last week.
IW is underrated 🔥
@@andibintang3888 definitely my favorite CoD game next to WaW.
In general there has been a steep decline in both games and cinema. Corporations putting their dirty hands in the creation of art absolutely ruins it.
Game Company: We are sorry that we released the game incomplete, but we will be updating it over the next few years. Thank for your money tho.
I started going back to older games and couldn't be happier.
Having a blast playing old school games on my phone via emulators
same here🙌🏽 ive been glued to def jam and the warriors for a week straight now😂 i also connect my xbox controller to my phone so its basically like playing the same way as back then
@@realkizzy3 awesome. I'm more of a Nintendo fan, so I'm playing mostly gba games on Pizza Boy emulator on Android.
I use the delta and gamma emulators.
@@denzilnagel254 I wish delta was on Android
I played games my entire life, now I am almost 40, I am done. Done done done, I may pick up and play a classic but the days of waiting on new stuff are over.
Same story - gamedev changed around the years. Some stuff don’t exite it anymore, like in older times.
Indie games are literally better than ever, and if you're gonna play games with crap graphics anyway then you might as well pick up an indie game.
Don't give up! We may not be in a golden era of new releases, but as a whole, I think gaming is really thriving... Emulators are better than ever, you can pick up an old 360/PS3 for cheap, indies are great, Steam sales of games from 5~10 years ago and so on. I might make a video about that soon.
@@criticalpixels funny you mention the ps360 days, recently bought some missed releases for my ps3 and they are great
100% agree, the PS2/early to mid X360 era were the golden age of gaming, after which it got progressive worse. i play the occasional new/newish game but i play mostly older games from 2010s and 2000's...sometimes even the 90's. console emulation on pc is another wonderful thing and i love playing those "stuck only on console" games too.
old videogames were true videogames
You know what could revitalize the gaming industry? If they learn from the experiences of arcade developers.
Gaming peaked with the PS2 and early days of PS3
I agree with the most part but feel 2013 was a great year for PS3
I agree. X360/ps3 is by far peak video games
Agreed
Or you just grew up
@@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24 Reserve that for the Nintendo fans
Old games just slap differently.. passion projects created for passionate gamers that want to escape the world and it's drama and just have fun
Madden 2007: One of the best American Football games ever made.
Nascar Racing Season 2003: The best Nascar racing sim.
Need For Speed Most Wanted 2005: An amazing arcade racer with some of the best police ai ever.
Super Mario Bros. 3 1990: One of, if not the best, 2D platformer.
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas 2004: The literal best selling game on the Playstation 2.
Winning Eleven 7 to Winning 10, and even FIFA 10 to FIFA 15, were also peak football (soccer) games.
I love how 17 year olds in the comment section say I went back to old games because 'nostalgia' when in reality I never stopped playing them in the first place
I first played Mario Kart Wii online around 2009 and still played it online regularly until 2022 when my Wii melted. I also played GTA SA since 2005 and still play multiplayer and watch streams. I still play GTA 4 and cause chaos whenever I'm having a bad day. I play Black Ops 3 zombies with my friends nearly every day. There's absolutely no reason for me to stop playing them if I still enjoy them
Agreed, I think many games from the 6th gen onwards have aged really well. I can boot up Winning Eleven 10 or some Mario Kart from that era and play for hours, not because I'm just feeling nostalgic, but cuz I'm having fun.
Man, reading this has me wanting to pull out my GameCube and revisit Mario Kart: Double Dash. That game has a strategy that none of the other games in that series does. Instead of one driver, you have two characters you can swap between, and all of the characters have some kind of exclusive item they can collect from item boxes.
Older games weren't infected with Sweet Baby Inc. either.
NEVER been a better time to be a patient gamer...
someone still on the last generation (or even earlier), buying only the absolute best/time-tested games, all at rock bottom prices
Nailed it
Precise
The AAA games industry has become very corporate and risk-averse. It's becoming increasingly distant from the people it sells to, so now there are whole departments that handle different aspects of "the customer side of things", while the actual decision makers are stereotypical suits who really only care about profits and politics. Meanwhile the customer has become more cynical and smaller developers have been squeezed by an ever more crowded market. There have been some really bad trends.
Me, playing Hollow Knight and Okami, "they aren't that old"...
I have pirated all my favourite games (3TB) and now I can play them wherever and whenever I want. 🏴☠️
Newer games are mostly lonely experiences, we need more 4 player splitscreen games, especially now many people have 65" TVs
That's true. I played Onrush for the first time recently and I was really disappointed that it didn't have a split screen feature. To add insult to injury, the servers are no longer online.
@@criticalpixels At least Nintendo still see the value in it
I remember playing splitscreen games with my brother and friends when I was younger. Most fun you can ever have in gaming. Now i'm too old and it would be tough to organize such an event, but it is how gaming was "meant" to be played. I get that feeling when I play board games now instead.
@@Skumtomten1 I'm just glad I can still play Mario kart splitscreen with my daughter
Which also only got taken away due to the corporate greed. You can still play coop. You just have to buy a second copy, another console, another tv and we pushed the graphics way too hard and didnt optimize, so it cant handle split screen, but we did this to give you a "better experience". Id take lower end graphics for split screen any day, and no way am I wasting all that money to get extra copies and equipment to play your crappy game. There is a reason why "It Takes Two" won game of the year.
Market oversaturation. Too many games trying to replicate the success of existing hit games, competing for the same customer base. Publishers refuse to take risks with big budget games, sticking to proven but stale ideas. The charts are topped by evergreen titles that dominate their own genre by offering a unique experience. Also, the current console generation has failed, lmao. People see no value in owning the latest consoles, as they offer nothing new.
The middle class is shrinking -- and it has been since the 1970s, but it really kicked into high gear after the 2008 mortgage crisis and again after the pandemic -- and most of that shrinkage is feeding into the lower class. This is affecting who can afford what and how games are being made.
I don't think most of the industry is reacting to that reality. So I don't think it's having much impact on how games are made yet. At least in the sense that one would expect them to slow down on huge expensive projects and aim for a big spread of moderately priced projects that could be sold profitably at lower prices. One would expect more small scale 40-50 dollars at launch titles with smaller teams and budgets, as that can easily get ROI overall even if several of them fail. For the price of 1 AAA game, they can pump out a dozen of these 'AA' or even 'A' games, and even a couple being moderate successes turns out as much or more net profit than the single AAA barring runaway success (think Fortnight) that's highly unlikely. But I don't see that going on so far, which is unfortunate for them and their investors.
Interesting, because after 2008, is when gaming really went to shit...
Thank BlackRock and Vanguard for the massive DEI push in the tech world. This is the result, a cyber-dystopia.
Oh look, another person that doesn’t understand AUM and instead bleats out misinformation.
@@brkbtjunkie oh look, another blind sheep who thinks the whole world is hunkydory and instead is living through Earth's transformation into a hellscape.
@@brkbtjunkie Okay Larry Fink
@@brkbtjunkiewhat is AUM
Greed is ruining gaming. Microtransactions, live services, massively inflated prices despite the cost to sell games has fallen to virtually nothing thanks to going digital, games designed for engagement rather than be fun and respect your time. Unfortunately this is the result of capitalism and the right doesn't want people to question capitalism so they do what they always do and use minorities as a scapegoat. It's always sad to see just how effective it is with certain groups of people :(
Game companies now: you should like what we make
Game companies in the past: we should make what you like
Because old games are objectively better in every way.
Stories like Metal Gear Solid 1998, Chrono Cross 1999, Gears of War 2006, Elder Scrolls Oblivion 2006
Let’s not forget the cool graphics Soul Calibur had on the DreamCast …
Those were the days
Maybe not games that got released on consoles before the video game crash of 1982. From that crash to the start of the 2010's however, bad games tended to be genuine mistakes. People behind them generally put their souls into them. Nowadays, we have the impression that bad games got sabotaged on purpose because of laziness and greed
you have a fucking skyrim pfp lol
@@danita122 Skyrim is 13 years old. Different generation.
YEP
All of the NPCs and the BOTs who have been shaming real people with opinions about “nostalgia” are all real quiet lately. Don’t ever listen to these losers again
I get that argument all the time. It's just a group of 17 year olds coping and thinking they are smart and then idiots upvote their comment
@@ross3695_basedhax I have encountered this mentality my entire lifetime. I have been a witness of many collective dismissals which have lead to the current state of things. This mentality of shaming those who criticize new products isn’t just people being naive or settling for mediocrity. It’s a targeted and calculated effort to promote new products while undermining what came previously. Unfortunately there are many mouth breathers and people so desperate to fit in they will associate with bot comments online or give their entire life story underneath a music video, TV clip, etc. it’s all “free” advertising. These people are either insane or they’re literally shills getting paid to troll genuine fans who can see the writing on the wall. After enough time of shadow banning people and seeing all the really stupid comments get promoted nobody who has anything to say even wants to make comments anymore out of fear of getting called negative or shadow banned for colorful language meanwhile the most degenerate comments are allowed under the right context. That just allows these companies who have all the power to manipulate people like we’re just data instead of using all that time, money, and understanding to deliver a good product. To them their sales are guaranteed and whales will make up for the rest. Gaming as a whole has turned into interactive money making software and it’ll only get worse.
Speaking only for myself the money has literally 0 to do with playing older games and everything to do with preferring to play finished games. Saving money is just a great bi-product of not pre ordering or buying unfinished games on launch. I'd happily pay more than the normal full price for a game on launch if I knew I got everything included and the game worked as advertised. Cyberpunk is probably the game I've been the most hyped about ever, and I was so disappointed when I read the reviews that came out on launch. I haven't bought it yet, but I know my experience will be incredibly more enjoyable when I do in the near future....and I'll probably get it and all DLC at 75% discount in the process.
I was really hyped for Cyberpunk as well, but then decided to wait and finally played it after the 2.0 patch and the Phantom Liberty DLC. It was a great experience and I even got the platinum for the base game, but wow, what a horrible launch it was.
Older games had more creativity. As someone who has been playing video games since 1990 or 1991, I have seen how over the last 3+ decades gaming has changed for the worse. Don’t get me wrong there are still good video games that come out today but it’s nothing like it was in the 90’s and 00’s. Developers had less to work with which pushed them to be more creative in their approach to making games. Most of my favorite games are from 2-3 decades ago and not just because I grew up with them. It’s too many politics, copy and pasting, and focus on graphical fidelity over prioritizing gameplay nowadays. If a game is pretty but the gameplay sucks or it’s just copying another game it loses its substance. Putting all these politics and microtransactions in games is destroying gaming. I still have a wonderful time going back to my ps1 or original Xbox and remembering when gaming was truly in a better place.
This. Everything. This.
Also because of the advancement of flash carts, you can now play every retro game ever for your older consoles. Many times when you were just a kid you only had around 10 games, but the console had 1,000 games.
This means that there were tons of older games that you never had a chance to play. But thanks to flash carts and emulation, now you can play all of these older games that you missed out on.
I think that's a solid part of it. People have the entire 'best of' catalogues open to them, and with the financial crunch and stressed state they're in, they go for something highly efficient and solidly proven.
As English isn't my first language, I'd also add the impact of fan made translations. If you gave up on a game as a kid because it was in English or Japanese, you can now often play it on an emulator or modded console with a decent translation.
@@criticalpixels Some of the best games I've played are Japanese only games which eventually got a fan hack translation so that now english players and enjoy it too.
most of the new games I play come from independent developers like Freedom Planet 2 , Selaco and cultic , games that take only 10 , 20 or 30 hours to finish but also come with a fair low price even when you buy them without a discount , Indie does what big AAA studio stopped doing , great experience that doesn't overstay their welcome just for long term engagement and microtransactions.
Ha, I’m just about to grab Cultic on the Steam sale and Selaco is on my wishlist.
Less bullshit, more fun.
Ive been playing games for 40 years and I've watched the growth of the industry over that time. The moment Spore was released with the first DRM i knew the writing was on the wall. Now we have all the horrible AAAA games with bare gameplay and addictive microtransactions. The gaming world has stagnated like so many other industries once the popularity hits a certain amount. Corporate greed has always been there but now they know they can get away with these horrible practices.
I think the first reasons you mentioned are about most of it. Folks are simply sick of shelling out 60-70 bucks on an unfinished product or a game that might be bricked if they turn off the servers to it.
I think it’s also cause somebody were discovering some older games that were overlooked when they were younger and now it’s interesting. There’s games from like the UK America and Japan that are so good. You have to go all the way back to the 70s up to now.
I’ve recently got a HDMI upscaler for my GameCube & loving it! I have also gone back to games I played back in the day but never completed or games I just never got round to buying because money. It’s amazing how old games feel like the made the correct decisions to prioritise gameplay and content over anything else.
Always wanted to do that. Wasn't sure if they worked well
modding community can turn what had been a 60 dollar game back in 2008 into what could arguably be a 300 dollar game with the sheer amount of extra modded content.
I rarely play any new games
Last year I brought a Steamdeck and most of the games I have played have been classics from the 6th and 7th generation.
The system has given a new lease of life to older games
I bought a pc a few days ago and I literally only been playing 360/ps3 era games and some old 2006 games on pc
360/PS3 era game on PC are so nice. It's like playing a new game all over again with all the enhancements
How do you play them properly?
U got them online or do u use discs? If so Wich CD drive do you use?
Ik about the right emulators but it's hard to get the games working on it.
Don't give me an exact manual just a hint what to do
I recently got into the original Devil May Cry games and have had a lot of fun (2 being the exception).
Because they were better.
Cost of living going up, layoffs increasing, price of games going up, and everything being less and less enjoyable as corners are cut.
Most people play older games mainly because they are just fun to play, Fallout New Vegas and the older Fallout games are good examples of this, those games are a blast to play no matter how many times you replay it, most companies nowadays are running out of ideas for games and mostly turn to remakes of their older games or a badly made sequel.
Thanks for mentioning the increased accessibility features. A lot of people in gaming spaces often either overlook or disparage this development
I've been a gamer for 40 years. At this stage of my life, with two young kids and responsibilities at an all time high, I only have about an hour to play in any given day. Getting into and learning a whole new game just feels overwhelming. It's far simpler and more relaxing to just stick with what I know and play something out of my old catalog.
Old single player games were way more fun the complete package day one no dlc bs
Rest in peace, DriveClub
The modern industry has been killing itself with approaches and goals nobody asked for. Them trying to prevent risk to the extreme and follow trends has increased their chance of failure.
To describe video games as young is crazy but so very ture. There's only like 50 years of gaming and that's crazy to think about seeing how i overseen like half of it.
To answer the question of why older media as a whole dominates the charts, I think the simple explanation is familiarity. It is far easier to rewatch a classic television show, or replay a favorite title from ten years ago, than to put in the effort of trying something new.
Here’s what it comes down to: if you’ve experienced that show or video game in the past, then you know exactly what to expect when going back to it. You know what the plot twists are. You know what the characters are like. You know the controls, the mechanics, how to beat the boss fights, where to find the secrets, so on and so forth. And most importantly of all: by going back to something old, you _already know_ that you’re going to have a good time with it. Because you had a good time, the _last time_ you went back to it.
It takes a lot of work to get into a new show or game. Having to learn the plot, memorizing who the characters are, playing through the slow-ass tutorial, figuring out what you’re supposed to in order to progress. All of those things act as barriers or obstacles that get in the way of your goal, which is to be entertained. To have fun. So why not cut all of those problems out by just going back and rewatching or replaying something you’ve already seen before, instead?
I think this has always been the case with entertainment, and always will be, regardless of whether or not the ‘new stuff’ is good or not. People argue that “old stuff was better”, but even when they have new experiences that are collectively agreed upon to be great, so many will _still_ choose the old stuff. “Oh, in my backlog I’ve got The Witcher 3, and Elden Ring, and God of War: Ragnarok, and Hi-Fi Rush, and Doom Eternal, and… hm… nah, I’m just gonna go do my 7th playthrough of Mass Effect 2!” Like, you get what I mean? People build up these massive backlogs, and then continue to prioritize games they’ve already finished long ago, or go back to [insert live service game here].
The quality of new releases isn’t driving people into replaying old games. They’re doing it because they’re lazy - like we all are, inherently. We don’t even want to put effort into having fun.
"The quality of new releases isn’t driving people into replaying old games. They’re doing it because they’re lazy - like we all are, inherently. We don’t even want to put effort into having fun."
... but that only holds water if people know that the new games aren't a safe bet for fun. You posit people don't want to put effort into having fun. I would counter point that easy fun used to be the standard for videogames. Considering how streamlined and simplified most modern releases are, the idea that people don't want to put in the effort to learn a newer game becomes highly questionable. Topping that off, many people are turning to older games that they did not play before now. While I'll grant you that people have been going back to older games for some of the reasons you've highlighted (Sure thing, ease of entry.), this trend is new. That means either this trend massively increased in prevalence recently, or the trend of playing new games massively fell off recently. (Or a mix of both as is likely the case.)
It's not a case of 'this is new' but 'this amount of this choice is new' being brought up.
I think you both made great points, but I agree with @Sorain1. Some people actually go out of their way to play an older game, having to look for fixes, mods, patches, and so on. From an ease of use perspective, it would be much more comfortable to just install the latest God of War or Hi-Fi Rush. These newer games often come with quality of life features that many old games lack, such as frequent autosaves and various assist options. On the other hand, some new games (God of War) have a bad replay value, with some story focused sections that might be okay for the first time, but are really slow and annoying on a second playthrough.
I literally just finished Too Human for Xbox 360, a 6/10 for its time but an 8/10 game compared to today’s release climate.
I play 2007 down to 1998 games. Love them no adds and I own physical copies ❤
Games back then used to be made for gamers, now its made for maximising shareholder value and making investors happy.
We play to game to relieve stress and escape reality for a time. And I'm not playing a game made by an activist designed to lecture me with their self-inserted political views.
there are always new children entering the video game market, which explains why children's games like fortnite are always popular.
The Folden Age of gaming was 1995-2005. Before the microtransactions of today and the arcade games that were designed to suck quarters away at an alarming rate.
I enjoy watching videos like these where it's just a guy discussing an interesting topic while gameplay runs in the background. Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
I hate newer media and the corporations who spit it out🥲🤮🤮
New games are mostly made unfinished due to dei workers.
A lot of game designers today think all you need is state-of-the-art graphics, bombastic effects, epic battles, and you are done. But often you wonder if these designers have ever played their own game for more than 10 minutes in a row, and if they have, you really want to ask them, "Now explain to me how this is supposed to be fun?" Sure, it looks good, but it's boring AF! Repeated missions, hours of grinding, boring journeys through empty landscapes, pay-to-win systems, useless item upgrades, reused assets, poor voice acting, and zero creativity as everything looks copied from other games. The most important part of a game is entertainment and variety. Everything else about a game can suck, but these two are essential. If a game isn't fun to play, it's useless. And if a game has no variety, it will soon become boring, no matter how much fun it was in the beginning.
This summary was actually very thorough even though it didn't cover every ongoing issue, but well thought out none the less.
Why were people playing older games in 2023? My guess would be because newer modern games are poorly optimized and require high amounts of VRAM along with the fact that NVIDIA cards cost so damn much in ratio to the amount of VRAM given
That's a good point. Many people would rather play an older game at max settings with stable performance than struggle with a new release with poor optimization.
@@michaelhart2575 that’s true even some nivida backed games like rotr maxed out at 1080p reaches 7gb vram and it’s a game from 2016
As far as latest games are concerned re4 remake is held back by 8gb vram limit and the trend will continue as long they force us to use upscalers as an excuse for optimization
Baffles me that people are happily buying 4K marketed cards which can only do upscaled 4K which in actuality is somewhere closer to 2k and back then if someone did that it would be called a scam
Only the enthusiast end cards can do real 4K but then again it all boils down to that native rendering should become the focus again than using gimmicks
Bro the answer is on the surface! Overpriced copy paste From same brands all over again. Never ending life service garbage with battle passes, loot boxes, “premium” skins, early access to the weapons/characters, same map that been “fixed” all over again and again. What else... OH A MASSIVE PREMIUM STORE ON HOME PAGE. Never ending “score” page after match, 3 clicks to close it than face battle pass bar, with skins that you can get if you buy it, even more useless menus and tabs before you can come back to lobby to start this crap again.
I don’t even know man, what could it be...
These UIs filled with icons, pop-up windows, notifications (red dots, exclamation marks), text and, in F2P games, bunch of gameplay features that I need to study separately to know how to use them in match (MOBA games are filled with them), make my blood boil.
Some old games have this charm, cause they don't look realistic, they are cartony for example. That was one of the things that used to be fun
why we choose older games over new ones? thats so easy to answer, we prefer good games with good stories and none of the woke stuff we have today. plus game quality has dropped drastically over the last decade. yeah visually things may look great but the message most games give now days is just wokeneess turned up too 11
No way bro trying to bring up politics when talking about games, but yeah alot of modern games are shit
only incels and bots complain about "woke stuff" in video games, we're literally living in the least censored era for video games
@@OmaeWaMoShindeiRYUyou can literally shoot transgender bullets in the newest call of duty.
@DavyChapman are you seriously whining about the color of bullets? We've had transgender representation in video game characters for almost 40 years and now you're noticing 💀 I suppose your answer to this would be more censorship?
@@OmaeWaMoShindeiRYU 'we're literally living in the least censored era for video games'
LMFAO!!! You keep telling yourself that kiddo.
I play older games because:
- I can't afford a "buffed up PC"
- Downloading an older game is far faster and easier.
- Old games aren't just about "Graphics", they have a better story and, less bugs, non of those "DLC" BS, "Patches" and etc.
(If you wanna release a game, just test it properly, and not afterwards just for the devs to patch it constantly, and leaving users to download 500 MBs to 1 GBs of Patches or Fixes)
you talk like every AAA is assassin's creed or fifa
I'm hoping it's cause people want to play video games instead of movies or twitch stream fodder under the guise of a video game.
Me literally in the last dungeon in the original Phantasy Star on Switch as I click this video. 😂
It goes even deeper than this for me - I like playing older games that I have already played before more than playing old games I haven't played before. I like the familiarity, breezing through and making my skills at the same games even better. My copy of Super Mario Bros. for NES that I've had for years gets a lot more use than my copy of Snake Rattle N Roll that I got from a used game store a couple years ago.
Playing GTA 4 rn, way better than anything I've played in the last 4 years. I somehow missed it back in the day and there's probably 80 other games the last 15 years I wanna play through, not to mention 30 or so RPGs. There's just not enough time to play these new shiny games that honestly kind of blow. These gaming companies aren't taking any risks, where's the games like RE that when released in the 90's created an entirely new genre.
There's barely anything coming out worth buying that isn't either an agenda driven requel/remake of an existing game, a sanitized, censored remaster of an existing game, or an original game filled with all that, plus the predatory microtransactions, cluster truck of bugs, and half-baked storytelling. And just the complete disrespect to video game characters by making the female characters look like men, and emasculating the male characters. (You ever stop to wonder if the people gaslighting you for speaking out on it actually play games?) There's too much to explain why there ought to be a two-year boycott for modern games. Sure, the normies might buy it, but real fans won't tolerate the blatant disrespect to the IP and fans of said IP. We can go back and play the older games, and there's also a lot of good Indie games on Steam. They need OUR money to keep going, not Blackrock's.
34 subs after making this literal freaking masterpiece is tragic i subbed bro i loved this so much keep it up!!!
"Why is everyone playing old games ? "
The reasons stated in the video are of course perfectly valid, but I would like to add these:
1. There are a shit-ton of good games among them, some being true classics
2. A lot of gamers have a huge backlog of older games in their Steam/Epic/GoG libraires they never played before and re-discover
3. Older games are cheaper to purchase, sometimes even waaaayyy cheaper or free
4. They were either already bugfree from their release date on, or have had the time to be fully patched by now
5. They run ultra-smoothly on any current mid-spec hardware, and some even on low-spec configs
6. A lot of newer games push the hardware to its limits, and less and less people have the money to blindly follow the hardware "improvement" craze