@@digitaldiablo1653 that’s why I like single player games…That’s not the real reason; I don’t have reliable internet, I prefer story driven adventures, and I hate people. But it’s nice not having to worry about online play (Blizzard…)
Yup, Both Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom I beat the dungeons and never bothered with finishing the game. Just got boring 8 hours in. Classic games are the best
@@chiquita683 botw and totk aren’t my favorite in the franchise. Open world games tend to be pretty bloated, the stripped down story and lack of dungeons was disappointing, and weapon durability and cooking system can eat my ass. But I did have some fun playing them. The exploration was cool, puzzles were neat, and I appreciate the experimentation with the gameplay. Strapping a korok to the front of a rocket cart and sending it cartwheeling over a boulder was satisfying.
Nintendo still makes quality games that are very well polished and complete at launch, and they continue to innovate on gameplay. Also VR gaming is getting a lot more innovation, both hardware and software. Many VR games have fresh and novel gameplay mechanics that are only possible in VR, like The Last Clockwinder, or Eye of the Temple.
games then and now: 1. cheat codes are replaced with microtransaction. 2. rewards and bonuses are replaced with achievements. 3. local co-op/split screen are replaced with online mode, which means you'll need two consoles, two TVs, two same game and two online pass to play with family. 4. 8mb of ps2 memory card was enough for saving, now you''ll need 1tb to at least install few games
True which is sad. Earlier this yr i was playing a ps1 game on my working ps2 and was looking through my memory cards and seeing my 16mb ps2 memory card and laughed as I thought about the fact I made a backup save of my save data on my ps5, the day before, that was 16gb : /
Each port of the same game had exclusive DLCs, like Soul Caliber in Gen 6. I thought that was cool. Also back during Gen 4 the games played slightly differently and the soundtracks were different too.
@@BaDik_Jacob Soundtracks fell off when they could use whole tracks instead of relying on chips that only played sounds of a limited bit rate. Some composers, like Hiroki Kikuta on Secret of Mana, even engineered their own sound banks to make sure each instrument sounded the way they intended for it to be heard when generated by the console. Now people just arrange, mix, and export... Not saying that's bad. Having higher quality audio is great. But back in the day any 2 composers would have a unique sound even if they used audio from the _exact_ same synthesizer to generate them. We've lost those technological limitations that forced people to think up unique solutions. Now, those problems just don't exist. It's got upsides and downsides. It's easier to compose and program audio, but overall it stopped being what we recognize as "video game music" and started being just "music."
From 1997 to 2007 Video Games went from PS1 240p to HD 720P PS3, compare that with the last 10 years and it feels like we've made no progress at all. The jump from PS1 > PS2 > PS3 is monumental. The Jump from PS3 > PS4 > PS5 feels like a minor upgrade at best.
@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக் you must be joking. Tell me silent hill 2 remake or horizon fw ps5 or ratchet and clank rift apart or returnal look barely better than a ps3 game
I miss when games had a clear beginning and end. You replayed the game if you wanted to, not because the game lured you into it. Now many games are designed to be neverending, eternal grindfests. They're designed to prey upon your ego, to be addictive, to make you feel bad if you quit.
@@paulgilbert5278 oh yeah OG for sure, but I'm talking the mediocrity that came out this last year. Disappointing how that game turned out compared to the 2018 game.
Just remember, it's not your job to enjoy games. It's the game's job to entertain YOU. If the game has only kept you engaged halfway, that's the game's fault for boring you, not the other way around. Saying no to certain games means saying yes to utilizing your time for better things.
incorrect, the function of the game is not to entertain you, it is also to have your own predisposition before playing a game, watching a movie or reading a book. I'm not saying there aren't bad entertainment products, there are many. But there are a lot of good jobs that you are not enjoying simply because you don't do a little bit of your part to do it, if you are tired, depressed or if you are a guy who doesn't pay attention to anything he is witnessing it is your fault. If you really are your maximum emotional and mental capacity when consuming an entertainment product and then realized that you didn't enjoy it, it's probably because the product is really bad or it's just not for you.
@@Dagon911 I agree. I am the biggest offender when it comes to losing interest when the pay-off was probably worth it. It isn't the game's fault if you lose interest, maybe the game just wasn't made for you.
What I miss about older games is the fact that majority of the games back then felt like completed experience for $40-$50, but now for $70 you only get a 3rd of what the game has to offer and the rest are essentially lock via multiple season passes that are around $30-$40 for each… it just makes me sad and a bit angry to see that.
@@sov3cd a lot of the times it feels like you’re spending money on a buggy demo rather than a complete experience that feels polished and high quality.
On top of that, in most games the DLC content you buy it doesn't really seems that different from what was already on base game. So it gets really repetitive really fast.
I whould rather replay a 1 hour game thousands of times than play a 20 hour game once and never touch it again. I miss when games actually cared about the gameplay and fun mechanics, now every modern game is always the same open world action game with one gazillion dollars in budget, I preferred when games cared about being fun.
ik what you mean, i feel everygame that comes out is hyped but they are basically the same, they either a soul like game or a story based game with hyper realistic graphics, i just wish there where more wacky and fun videogames, that's why i like nintendo because they always try new ideas and make gameplay super fun
@@slowdust9541Exactly. Everyone talking about this being the worst generation of consoles is primarily playing PS5 or X Box Series. The Switch has been an absolute godsend as Nintendo has managed to deliver one fantastic game after another. Tengo Project's reimaginings of some of Natsume's best games from the 16 and 8-bit eras have been fantastic as well.
I agree. All of these clueless consumers claiming they want longer games "to get their money's worth" are fools! I used to be able to play through 3 to 5 games from the 8 and 16-bit era between breakfast and lunch on a Saturday morning. Even if I had already played through them hundreds of times already that was still a lot of variety. I always felt a sense of accomplishment too, as underneath their surface level simplicity was a lot of technical skill that you could always improve on. Too many of today's games are just filled with repetitive padding.
What’s funny is “peak gaming” keeps getting pushed forward in time. I’m going to take a wild guess and assume you were a kid/teen during the PS3/360 era. Don’t you think that has a huge influence why you like that era more?
That was also the era that kicked off a lot of horrible industry trends that persist to this day Not saying it wasn’t good, just that it was the beginning of the end
@@darkartsdabbler2407 PS3 = mandatory installs, bloated game budgets XBox 360 = paid online multiplayer Both = incomplete games requiring day 1 patches
The biggest problem with anything trying to "go for realism" is it limits the imagination. Back in the 80s and 90s, we had loads of colorful, mascot style characters. Many of them weren't human, and even the ones that were had unique silhouettes and colorful designs. Characters would be able to jump tens of feet in the air. Enemies and bosses could defeat you as quickly as you defeated them. You usually had to learn and master earlier parts of the game thanks to limited checkpoints and lives running out (a good and bad thing about retro gaming). Nowadays you have mostly human protagonists (usually middled aged men or androgynous teenage boys), you jump a "realistic" height (if at all), boss fights usually take over ten minutes (sometimes with no checkpoints if you lose most of the way through), and checkpoints are everywhere with no limits (this varies and isn't necessarily a bad thing). Music has gone from being melodic and memorable to atmospheric and kind of bland. Weapons and methods of attack are often "period-accurate" rather than imaginative or unique (guns, swords, knives Vs. Mega busters, whips, boomerangs). Main point being, realism kills imagination.
I agree with you up to a point, because games like Doom, Splinter Cell, Half-Life, the first Assassins Creed, Ultima, etc all had a realistic approach and attempted a realistic take on graphics as much as it was possible at the time. And they were still amazing.
@@Daniel__Nobre I'm not saying you can't have amazing games steeped in realism. But imagine the possibilities some of those games could have had with more creative approaches. Or more memorable music. Or if some of them didn't feature a human protagonist, or realistic physics (tbf Assassin't Creed's tower dive is very unrealistic), or if they used a large variety of vivid colors and varied environments. Like they were amazing, I agree. But we get so many realistic games these days they feel very same-y.
@@GoeTeeks I completely agree with that part yes. I grew up with 16bit Sonic and Super Mario and Earthworm Jim, Comix Zone, etc so for a long time the idea of reaching realistic graphics was a dream. But I agree the pendulum has tipped way too much into that side now and we lost a lot of innovation and great art direction and indeed crazy design explorations. Given today’s technology it would be great to bring that boldness of the 90s and apply it to what could be achieved now. Indie does it a bit, but it still feels mostly very safe and as such so far away from the diversity of types of ground breaking games we saw in the 90s. And that includes, like you say, crazy weapons concepts, colourful mascots with an attitude, gameplay involving interesting powers.. treating videogames again like fun toys and sandboxes..
I feel you. It gets boring having to pick up 200 branches, 100pieces of cloth and 50 beast tooth's to upgrade a sword. Why not give me natural progression? You finish a mission and can select an upgrade of your choice or the boss you kill drops a new weapon. Also the traveling. I want a 45 minutes gaming session after work. First 10 minutes to climbing a mountain to reach a minor upgrade to my health bar. Then 5 minutes going to the nearby marker on the map to get an accessory I will never use. Then 5 minutes traveling to the sidequest. I play the sidequest for 20 minutes and the last 5 minutes I fast travel to town to sell all useless scraps and bits you pickup. My gaming is done for the evening without any progression in the story or feeling of accomplishment.
Modern games lack density. Everything fell apart when people started judging games by how long they take to beat to feel they got their money’s worth. AAA is now bloated with huge worlds and cutscenes, they just take the content of older games and stretch it to be 10 times longer. You can easily make a very fun game without many years of development or budgets in the hundreds of millions. You just need devs with talent that know how to not waste the player’s time with boredom. There’s a reason why indie games fill the void left by AAA. Less is more in this case.
Basically, I came to play games to have fun and escape the stresses of life and work, not to go back into after I just finished a weeks worth of shifts!
Exactly. I don’t mind upgrading weapons and armor by collecting items, I actually kinda like it, but i hate it when they make you collect a million items for a tiny upgrade and they make it do hard to get them, especially with rare items.
Nah the late 80's/90's were the golden yrs of gaming. Then again I guess whatever decade you were a kid old enough to start gaming in would be the golden yrs to you.
@@amyhoard1222the thing is the early 2000s still had that old school feel because the people who made them came from that era BUT now it’s people who don’t even like video games making them
@@amyhoard1222 It's more about 2D vs 3D preference. The SNES vs the Gensis era was the peak of the 2D era while the early 2000s with the PS2, GC and Xbox were the peak of the 3D era. Every poll I find online, these 2 generations are always at the top because they represent the best their era had to offer. Early 2D and early 3D were kind of janky and very limited because of hardware and late 3D has become the slop we all know.
@@Izelor can’t argue with that even tho there was alot of good games that came out in 2011-2013 but after that things starting going downhill it was right after the success of call of duty all these causals came in just to ruin our hobby by buying every DLC/gun skin call of duty came out with
I agree. I loved, even now, the PS 1 and PS 2. The best game moments of my life. I have only a few modern games that give me any real joy. Many modern games feel exploitative, using manipulation to get you to play and raise the engagement time instead of being fun.
This video resonates. Old games had charm, you could feel that the developers poured their hearts out and were excited to show you what they found cool. When I play them, I still can feel the excitement the devs had. They're creative, respect you as a player, actually aim to be fun rather than trying to min-max milking the player's playtime and wallet.
I remember reading the manual for Icewind Dale 2 on the way home from the mall with my grandma. And she looked at me and asked "what are you doing?" And I told her that I was learning the rules and the specifics of the game I just bought. And this thing was like a 200 page manuscript. Complete list of spells and descriptions for everything. Everything. And my grandma, being a little ahead of her time, told me she was proud of me. Because she never even learned a game like chess enough to learn the rules like that. Let alone an entire book. She didn't judge me for something that wasn't real or tangible, but I found enjoyment in anyway. It was an awesome time to be a kid.
entering your credit card cheat code...💀 one of the best comments i ever saw on steam was someone commenting on valve's doomed card game (artifact)...'most overpowered card is credit card'
Retro games are not dead there just indie now A lot of new games coming out are just remasters, remakes or HD collections. Old games never died and based on what I heard and seen from having an arcade walking distance from me. Kids play their Fortnite and other free to play games but a lot are going back to 90s games
You're dead on. Remember games like shovel knight feeling like an nes game. Now we have games like crow country that feel like ps1 games. It won't be too long and we'll have indie games that feel more like the AAA 6th generation. I'm already seeing games like night runners looking like a black box need for speed underground game. Blows my mind!
@@sumnahlennon5449 Because there is no advertising for them back in the day there wasn't either but they were on the shelf of a game store while you were looking and at least back then they matched triple a games in visuals. Indie games now are hidden away and obviously don't match triple a games in visuals anymore. So I take it a lot of people don't want a $500 console to play a 10 dollar game that has PS1 graphics you want to make the most of your purchase but the industry is in a really weird place where nothing is really lining up anymore and its fact that indie games as fun as some of them are will never carry a generation.
@@Tenacityfromtheglass gonna throw in Lunacid as a honerable mention! That game is basically like Is kings field or shadow tower abyss if was made last year.
I remember those days the Xbox 360 and PS3 those were good days of gaming so is the original Xbox and the PS2 I just wish they made more games like that. Well, at least we got indie games because that’s the closest thing that feels like retro gaming nowadays.
Things I missed 1. This is the big one. The manual and artwork that used to come with a lot of games including the box art. It gave it so much charm and made me happy to be a collector. Nowadays you just have a generic case with nothing included. Just feels absolutely soul-less. *2. When retro game shopping used to be affordable. Thanks to scalpers and flippers, the market for older games has increased dramatically and just taken all the fun out of collecting. It used to be before 2010 where you could collect really amazing games without hurting your pocket.* 3. When game companies actually cared about their consumers and would do more tie in deals and promotions for their line up. Nowadays you don’t really hear much about a new game dropping, even the more mainstream ones and when they do they just have fixed prices with nothing really included. No incentive. *4. No DLC bullshit that most games used to have. The DLC itself a bad thing, but when it’s attached with an exuberant price tag almost as much as the original game, it boils my blood.* 5. Many sellers and companies taking advantage of the FOMO mentality to make consumers buy their games. Nintendo doing this for the Super Mario All-Stars Release was just dirty 6. Speaking of All Stars, just companies being lazy and uninspired and just releasing HD remakes of their older games with little to no changes for the price of a new game. Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze was notorious for this. $50-60 of the same older 3DS game that cost $20 nowadays. 7. This is more of a bone I have with PlayStation and Xbox with how they release their games. Instead of just releasing A1 games with other barebone games in between, throw in some love for your lesser known properties in between your A1 releases. *8. GameStop in general. In the early 2000s, I used to love going in and seeing the walls of colorful games and other cool merchandise that decorated the stores. Most gamestops I see now have a generic set up display and sell more crappy merch, funko pops and unnecessary game assessories than actual games*
I miss the old days when you could just pop in a disc and play the full game. Now you got company’s like Activision making games like like modern warfare 1-3 which feels like dlcs for skins for warzone
Most of what you said in your video is what I've been writing about online for like the last decade, and when you share your thoughts like you did on this video, the newer generations don't really understand you, and in the live service games that I used to play, they would often call me a grandpa or make fun of me just because I talked about the issue, but modern gaming which is mostly live service, is just an endless grind that you don't really own, because all the money and time you invest in those games, can be taken away from you any moment that the publishers running the servers want to, or even worse yet if the MMOs you used to play don't go down, they just change so much that they are beyond recognition, and at that point even if the games are still alive, you just don't feel like playing them, because the things that hooked you in or that you enjoyed, were either nerfed or removed because the game decided to go in a different direction, or for the games that used to be subscription based, when they eventually became "Free to play" they were just not worth it anymore, because to pretty much do anything you needed to take out your wallet and spend hundreds instead of the $10-20 you used to pay monthly, and for those reasons and more is that I turned my back on live service stuff, because I want to have fun not have to be enslaved to a stupid game I don't enjoy anymore just so that I stay "relevant". I also strongly agree that developers need to put a pause on the whole Open World game concept, because nowadays every game wants to do it and because of so many assets and crap those games nowadays end up being 100+GB, and sure while you can say that just because those games can give you 100+ hours of playing to collect and do everything, not everyone is a completionist nor do they enjoy having to do that, so for most people when they get bored or want to try something else, it becomes really difficult to get back into the groove they had with the game, which is like you said in order to not be lost with the progress or story, most people start over and then get stuck again on the same points, and that's actually what used to happen in a ton of older RPGs too, because they were designed to make you grind and stuff to lengthen the game times, but I'm the type of person that just enjoys platformers or action games, so I much rather play a game that I can beat between 2-4 hours, but has a lot of replayability rather than spend 20+ hours in a game that I will never touch again. I recently got my hands on an Ayaneo FLIP DS and I'm totally loving this system, because since it has two screens I can pretty much emulate any console even those that have two screens like the DS or 3DS, and since its portable I can take my entire library of games with me to wherever I go.
SSX 3, Wild Arms, Persona, Magna Carta and Mega Man Legends. God do I miss the styles of games back them. Feature complete, fun, built in collectables, rewards for exploration, and most of all, they didn't make me feel... compelled to play them. I completed them because I had fun, not because they tricked me with manipulative gameplay loops, designed to keep you playing long after you stopped having fun.
@mikerainbow11 I really need to try the persona series someday. I just beat chrono trigger for the first time this year for the ds. Used to play tons of ssx tricky. I loved it when companies weren't so risk-averse with their franchises. Do you remember megaman x command mission?
@@Tenacityfromtheglass Yeah! That game was amazing! I never knew I needed a true Megaman RPG until I played that. Same with Super Mario RPG, just a great twist that payed out so freaking well. I agree, when the stakes were lower, companies could take risks, but with 10s, even 100s of millions on the line, they fall into patterns, manipulation and other predatory processes to get their money back.
Thanks for reminding me of Megaman Legends 2! While everyone else was turning Ocarina of Time into a world-wide, multi-decade phenomenon, I was building memories with Megaman Legends 2!
5 things i miss about older games 1. attractive female characters 2. everything didn't have to be political 3. no micro transactions 4. Cheats were awesome 5. Games were complete at launch.
When I was a kid I used to activate the invisiblity, all weaps, and infinite ammo cheats for GoldenEye 007 for the N64 and roleplay as the Terminator. I'd put that Deep Purple song Hush on repeat - it was the closest I had to Bad To The Bone, as played in Terminator 2. Thanks for reminding me of this time!
I just started my emulator journey yesterday at 36yo, and found my joy in games again. Grew up in the 90s playing snes, 64, gb and my friends ps1, eventually was gifted a ps2 in 2001 from my cousins, and only moved to a xb360 a decade later. Ever since, i never played games again because imo the market went crazy with the prices and "unfinished" releases and countless microtransactions. Last year the oled switch got my attention and i thought to myself "maybe this device will take me back to the 90s". And boy it did. Playing Zelda, Pokemon and all the retro stuff from the online exclusives made me realize that i do still like gaming, just not modern ones. So just like you (because of Russ) i started my emulator journey only 2 days ago from posting this comment with a ps2 emulator and its as good as i remember. Now i remember why i would always say "ps2 is the best console ever made, and nothing will ever match it". Put it simple: it perfectly bridged the gap between old school quirky looking and ultra modern realistic. Meaning it was way ahead of the 90s stuff, but not too "serious" like new stuff. You still had cheats, no microtransactions, the games werent only great but they were also properly made with non or just very minor glitches, and not only could you take your games to a friends house, but you could take your save files too, only today we realize just how brilliant that was! Im playing ps2 on my pc now (even though i still have my original ps2) and im in love again. Good times...
Hell no they aren’t they shut down the ability to emulate games… turn off their old console online stores, refuse to re-release certain games and still charge full price for the ones they do and still have games that run like garbage. Not to mention try to sue people for using a basic game mechanic like throwing a ball to capture something (see Palworld). Nintend literally tries to ruin gaming.
This all still exists in droves in the indie game market. I mostly play games now not made by major studios and it's so much better. Everything you mentioned; creativity, authenticity, the game being first and foremost instead of a product, and not breaking the bank. Just this year alone I played some of my favorites for the first time: Perrenial Order, Enter the Gungeon, Balatro, Void Stranger, Buddy Simulator 1984, Dave the Driver, Vampire Survivors, Guacamelee, Pizza Tower, My Friendly Neighborhood... Those are just what I played this year alone and there's a treasure trove of a back catalog of indie classics to play. As well as AA studio type games like Black Myth Wukong that puts any modern AAA game to shame and made by 50 people. Games were better back in the day, it's one of the times nostalgia isn't the culprit. Big studios are incentivized to attempt to make the most money from the every demographic with every game. And they don't spend any of those resources on smaller interesting projects. So originality and a game made for the art of it can't exist bc they can't potentially scare any customer off. But modern gaming isn't dead. Indie devs don't have that restriction and that's where all the artists went. I thought I was just getting old and jaded but when I got my PC set up right my world opened up and I continuously find games that can suck me in for 10s of hours.
To be honest, I used to really enjoy all sorts of modern games but once I started playing them a lot, I started feeling really bored with gaming. I would usually buy a new game, try it, get bored after a while and never complete it. That was until I bought Assassin's Creed Origins. I've never played any of the AC games so I didn't know what to expect. Throughout the whole game I was so engaged, it was so fun! It really felt like a breath of fresh air from most of the boring games. The amount of exploration was amazing and I love how you can go from sneaking through bandit camps to going through ancient tombs and finding treasure or solving puzzles. The strategizing when having to going through these camps is so fun too. When I played this game, I realized that games are really fun, it just depends on what games you choose to play. But you're right about modern games being less fun, there's less passion and more greediness. I recently picked up Persona 4 Golden and it's one of the best games ever, I literally can't stop playing it. Can't wait to buy Persona 3 Reload, I absolutely love the theme, characters, OST, and UI design.
I have kids now. I'm 32, just set up a retro play room in our basement for the kids as a hangout spot as they're getting older too. My boy discovered the OG Legend of Zelda on NES and it was like watching him transform into a younger kid from the golden years. He was asking and engaging with where items are located in the game world. You don't get that with Madden and I told him that. He appreciates it too, I can see it. were running through Halo and Ratchet and Clank simultaneously now.
We really need a "renaissance" in gaming. But, before that we will have to watch the slow death of the gaming industry. Bloated and corrupted by out of touch executives and political saboteurs! Great video, man! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
One thing I miss in games is that old arcade level design going from level to level engaging in the games difficult and in depth combat systems with a scoring system that kept you playing these games over and over and over again. Another Thing I missed was the difficulty in older games such as Ninja Gaiden, God Hand on Lvl Die, DoDonPachi,Devil May Cry on DMD,Final Fight,Street Fighter,King of Fighters,F Zero GX,Gungrave. And having to actually GET GOOD and practice the game rather than playing it once and already being a master at the game. And another thing I miss about old arcade games is the Linear level design and the level to level system rather than than going around and doing tedious tasks not engaging in the games combat long walking sections of nothingness,and lazy minigames that hurt the games longevity. The level to level system was instant and got you straight into the games combat immediately without wasting any time and in depth scoring systems is just something that needs to come back.
Video games peaked for me in the PS2 era. I’ve played since the NES up to a little of PS3. After halfway through the PS3 lifespan the modernity killed games for me.
Your first few minutes are perfect description of how gaming has been for myself the past few years and it is also one of the reasons that I am so thankful that I have a couple modded Vita's, as well as a modded new 3DS LL, in addition to still having my PS3 and my Xbox 360, and all of the games I accumulated on the PS4 and the Xbox one, for to have played quite a few games to the halfway point and then fell off... and then six months later, realizing I never finished it, trying again and doing the same crap?! So nowadays, I've been going back and playing the older games from when I was growing up that I might've missed? And there are quite a few on the PlayStation, the super Nintendo, the Sega CD, the Sega, Saturn, the Dreamcast, The N64 and quite a few other systems where I still find lots of enjoyment in those games?!?! I'm currently playing Fallout 3 GOTY on my PS3, Mass Effect on my PS5, Gran Turismo1&2, plus Xenogears, Fear Effect & Chrono Trigger for the original PlayStation, but playing them on my phone, which is amazing!!!! With codes, which makes it even better!!!! The truth of the matter is, we are in the end cycle for what ends up, becoming a very bad. That doesn't end for quite a few more years now.... but this is also affecting all forms of media and this is why gaming and movies and everything are kind of stale now as well as the world a bit insane?? It'll eventually get back to normal, but if you feel the burden of the weight of boredom and insanity from all the crap nowadays, and you are also not enjoying modern gaming as much as you feel like you should, then you're probably not wrong and you're feeling the same thing. A lot of us are feeling? Just know that the old games that we grew up with are still absolute bangers and I enjoy one if not a few each day!
Props to you showing MGRR during the vid. There were so many titles that I missed when I was younger and because of my budget I’m happy to play an older game over a newer one. The fact that game preservation isn’t as important as music and film is a disgrace to the gaming industry.
I think older games represent a time when we owned our physical media, and companies don't like that. They're so afraid of you buying a used copy of a game that they would go as far as destroying the very concept of ownership. I believe all of this is by design. Even look at the download sizes for these games, sometimes taking up a 3rd of your storage. Is it because they're poorly optimized, or is it because they want it to be the only game you play? What a coincidence that the only game you have storage space for is full of microtransactions. Art is sacred! AA, AAA, AAAA, nomatter how many A's they toss at a pile of trash, it won't turn it into a meaningful gameplay experience unless they respect the art.
I have gone the same route as you. I rarely ever play anything new. The newest game i played recently was the Dead Space Remake. But even that is just a remake and i played it because the original Dead Space is one of my favorite games. Other than that i have been playing old games for years now and recently got into buying retro consoles. I bought a PS Vita last week and im honestly in love with it.
I took a ten or fifteen year break from gaming and since coming back the only 2 games that genuinely impressed me were red dead redemption 2, and metal gear solid 5. There's a few others if like to try but my GPU died and it'll be awhile before I can afford a new system.
42 year old gamer here. I just went retro, I like getting those old consoles I never played and try the best games on them; if you go retro and just play the top 10 best games on each console, you have easy 100 games to play, all of them great. Also, a modern game might ask you to put 2000 hours of mind numbing action, but an old game is just around 10 hours, 50 if you go RPG or early 3D, so you can spend those 2000 hours in a huge variety of genres. So that, get a CRT (or a retrotink), some old consoles, a handful of Everdrives and go nuts. Right now I´m playing a Super Metroid Hack on my SNES called Ascend and it´s awesome, a completely new game made by a crazy talented fan.
Retro died with the N64, but there were still awesome games to play on the PS2, XBOX and Gamecube. Halo: CE will always be my favorite game of all time, all with REAL people in one room. I have every console released in the US, and I have over 14,000 games, but to me, the 360 and PS3 were the beginning of the end. Games went from being played together in the same room to being played by yourself in your own home, with your friend(s) being in their own homes as well. There is something to be said with 16 people all playing at the same time with Halo, all in the same place and since that time, I haven't felt the same about gaming.
When you talked about buying new games, but for whatever reason not finishing them, and going back to older games, I felt that. That's so relatable to me. You articulated exactly why I don't care about modern gaming anymore. For me, as modern as I'll go is the Switch, but I have more fun modding older consoles, and giving them quality of life improvements, and getting lost in playing older games. Modern gaming is dying on the vine in real time, and it makes me appreciate what came before even more.
I have gone retro now. Brought a dsi xl, new 3ds xl, got classics Kirby Super Star Ultra, A Link Between Worlds. Oh and i also love Super Mario RPG Remake on the Nintendo Switch.
Super Mario RPG Remake feels too outdated and it’s too unbalanced. I don’t think that game does enough to modernized SMRPG and it feels like it’s too much on a _low_ budget. It hasn’t improved the writing issues of the original. It hasn’t improved the gameplay or the horrible lack of balance. It hasn’t improved upon the lack of Difficulty or barebones story or the lore or postgame content or bothering fleshing out the main cast or giving you new party members like Booster or Luigi for example. SMRPG Remake always feels like it’s just doing the bare minimum of video game remakes even when you compare it to other Remakes. Also the Artstyle change from the Original Game is also washed out and bad…
that is what i love about games, you can be leon kennedy isacc clark link batman spiderman samus 2d or 3d or any good action or turn based rpg character and have fun while "saving the world"
You know what is crazy? I'm experiencing a lot of these older games for the first time Alex Kidd, Gears of War, Ninja Gaiden Black, Ridge Racer Type 4 and i can see what you talking about without the nostalgia involved and some things was just better. When nothing new excites me I go to some site where i can download a rom of a "new old game" and thats what saved my hobby, honestly.
My passion for games died right after the PS4 came out as I didnt like anything but Call of Duty anymore and I didnt even like that ever again as soon as the PS4 came out. Going to retro games on the Switch and Steam have I been able to make a return in a massive way and love gaming now more than I ever have at any point in my life and I just play old games.
I agree buddy, I miss older games as well, these days I’m mostly playing Xbox 360 and Xbox One games on my Xbox Series X, apart from games like Lego Star Wars the Skywalker saga, even though these games have paid dlc. 👍🏻
The simplicity of plug N play.❤❤ No Internet requirements. No subscriptions. No loot boxes. NO MICRO TRANSACTIONS. No accounts or sign in. ❤😂 God I miss the old ways gaming.
Im playing Final Fantasy 7 and 15 both for first time at same time. Its night and day. Ff7 pacing is so quick and its hard hitting with the emotions. I never get a chance to breathe. Feels like so much is happening in such a short period of time, an emotional roller coaster. Meanwhile in ff15 i am feeling literally nothing. It has a huge open world full of sidequests and im spending majority of the time waiting for the car to arrive at the next destination. So much to do yet feels very unfufilling. We are just a bunch of bros driving around on a roadtrip while our war is tearing our country apart but everything is happening offscreem there is zero emotional impsct!
@@magicjohnson3121 im jumping between games but just started nier replicant and first hour of thr game im just doing these dumb mmo style fetchquests omg.
@I_Am_The_Social_Reject yes ffxv they ask you fo fish to feed starving kitten. Get repair kit to fix some guy broken car. Hunting monsters. Cid wants you to find stuff to upgrade your weapons. Theres some guy who also needs errands done. I just started ignoring it all and focus on the main story.
It's definitely the simplicity, hop in hop out, local co-op, complete on launch, no micro transactions, and time to beat that I miss the most. Most games are overly complex with mechanics or controls (which I do truly love). You have to invest extensive amounts of time to enjoy or make any noticable progress, which when limited on game time defeats any purpose to play other than to inch along the story. Most games only allow online co op with limited local if any. Games either launch incomplete, in total shambles, or have necessary content locked behind DLC. And to top it all off most games now a days are so massive they take 30+ hours just to get through, and that's not including side quests and over all exploration. It's funny because all of these things (aside from micro transactions) are either things that wouldn't bother me or I would have wanted, complex gameplay, longer story and time to enjoy the game plus more to do. Having so many games to choose and play at my finger tips also adds to the struggle of enjoying games, which is why I often revert back to old favorites or shorter games I can hop in and out of without fear of having to catch up on story i forgot or just can't mentally grasp at the time. The Steam Deck has been amazing for this.
That first 1:25 is so relatable there are very few games I like that I actually don’t need to be forced to play I actually had to stop playing rdr2 because I didn’t want it to end, but with a lot of games I do the same shit that he said and rinse repeat and then go spend 60 plus hrs on a game I’ve had for ages.
I have lived through the golden age of video/arcade gaming (from 1977 to present) and would not trade my early memories for anything. I too, am a curent gamer with my Xbox Series X, PS5, Switch, and PC games. However, there are many times when I will go back to my beloved NES and pop in Super Mario Brothers 3 and feel like a kid again. Thank you, Devin!!!
I miss browsing thru gaming magazines and seeing upcoming releases and a brief description on what it is about. Buying just one game, sometimes even for a whole year, being excited about it and keep reading the description of the game at the back of the packaging on the way home. There was a time also that there were no memory cards and saving games. Every time I turn off the PC/console I knew I will lose my progress - and I'm willing to just start the game all over again the next time I boot up my gaming system. No gaming guides or playthroughs. If there were cheat codes, it's passed around by mouth in the classroom and writing it on a scratch paper. Can't remember how many times I repeated Full Throttle, Lion King, Earthworm Jim, Toy Story, Cool Spot, Contra, Castlevania, etc etc. To this day I still prefer pixel games and even point and click adventure games. Timeline-wise, PS3 was the last time I remembered getting hyped about new releases. I have the PS4 but I rarely play it since I had it.
I grew up with the NES/SNES/Genesis/N64 and quit playing gaming for a long time. When I came back, I just wanted my old games, so I went and found them. Overtime, I discovered gamecube, really liked it. Collected it too. I discovered similar games to my retro games, like Cuphead. I have a Switch and it's mostly retro games, like Contra Anniversary Collection, Smash Bros and I order retro inspired games like Iron Meat and Rugrats. I've never had an Xbox, or any free to play type of game. I've never played the new Spiderman, none of it. I don't really feel a need to. I just enjoy the games I've always enjoyed. I think I'm just a Nintendo person, and they're still how they've always been. At least the games I play. I've never really played anything online though, so I have no idea what's going on with that.
This is a great video. I don’t ever comment on videos, but this one hit home. I exactly agree with you. And putting value on older games, you realize that just because it’s new doesn’t mean it’s more fun. Plus every game that I never got a chance to play back in the day is still new to me!
Bro you've described my exact feelings on gaming . I was born 94 so i got the tail end of the golden era for gaming growing up from gta 2-5, nba live 00- 10, nba 2k1- 2k13 , tony hawk pro skater series, zelda, halo, crackdown, saints row 1-3, prototype series, sly, spyro, ratchet and clank, mario kart, need 4 speed, midnight club series , prince of persia, street fighter soul caliber , tekken series , mortal kombat ssx tricky, atv vs motorcros, Skate series spiderman 2 , web of shawdows and ultimate spiderman, early batman games like vengeance etc etc all of those are far better than any games that came out in the last 5 years. I miss playing the game to get better without feeling like im being cheated by the game to force me to pay so i can have fun and compete. I miss games being released in their complete form ready to play out the box.
I love nearly every game you just mentioned. Especially sports games back in the day. They were so cool! I'm currently playing a game called Helskate that you might like. It's a mix between Tony Hawks pro skater and devil may cry. I never knew I needed a hack and slash pro skater game 😂
Same here, been beating the absolute hell out of L4D2 and the DLC for weeks now. Still play FarCry5, still play Diablo3, still play The Legend Of Dragoon, still play Phantasy Star 4. The only newer game I play now and again is Armored Core 6. Other than that it's Far Cry 5. Nothing new appeals.
Games used to be cinema; a rollercoaster of fun with a smooth flow to it's gameplay and level design. Now they ask me to "work" for them, grinding to finish the season pass ... or grind like I used to with an JRPG, because now a lot of games have RPG elements with numbers, customization and loot rarity because these elements turn a 10 hour game into 30 and it's all work and no fun.
i miss those old graphics, i miss when games actually felt like games, i miss replaying a game over and over and never getting sick of it because of how good it was and i miss when you bought a game and knew it was completed nowadays a game comes out with hella bugs and shi
I bought my V2 Switch in 2019 and it made me a Gamer again! Without the Switch I would have gave up on gaming altogether long time ago. I don't use my PS4 anymore it's just my Resident Evil machine. I also found Retro Game Corps and bought my RG35XX-H and now I can play any GBA and PS1 game on that little pocketable device. Right now I play Golden Sun, Colin McRae Rally 2.0 and Street Fighter Alpha 3 on it. As a husband I don't have the time to play many hours on my TV but I have always a few minutes for 1 or 2 rounds of Street Fighter or a race in Colin McRae wich is just Awesome!
I just picked up that red rg35xxsp and it makes a world of a difference when playing gba games. It's cool whenever I see other people getting into retro handhelds, living outside the bounds of conventional gaming.
@@Tenacityfromtheglass I still use my Switch I just don't buy that many games because of the Anbernic device... But I still bought a used Switch for my 8 year old niece for her birthday because that console is perfect for her needs. I hate Nintendo as a company but their games in the modern landscape are still the best. It would be worse without them.
bro, I feel what you've said in this vid on a spiritual level - what hit me was the photo album analogy. I of course still enjoy gaming now, but there are millions of moments I miss that feeling of completing Teen Titans Battle Blitz, Lego Star Wars 1 & 2, DBZ Sagas on ps2 and gamecube with my cousins for the first time as kids in the early 2000s or the fresh smell of an instruction booklet and the plastic on the case of the game it came with. I am an only child so, you can imagine that feeling hitting soooo much harder back then, trying to recreate those moments and even making new memories hurts sometimes because, some may take it all for granted while we just want to have fun. Despite everyone having lives and stuff, the things that bring enjoyment in our lives should evolve as we do, but instead they tax us and become a "backlog". Keep the vids coming though, new subscriber here!
@bertrandbest 100% agree with you on the things we enjoy should evolve with us. My cousin recently came over and we had the ps2 on the projector playing against each other in dbz budokai 3, and for a moment, I almost started to cry because the last time we played ps2 together, we were kids.
@ *moment of silence* we gotta Keep our inner-child happy man, always. Thankful I have most of my consoles and handhelds from way back when. I carry my modded GBA with me most places and I promise you I enjoy every second of it lol
Miss the old days when we lived our life for real… the games back then were everything but money. It was all about having fun, about friends getting together… it was about the boxes, manuals… maps… putting the puzzle together… oh man… glad to have experienced the 80s and 90s…
The pain of waiting for 40GB+ games to install is unmatched 😭 you'll buy a game and spend hours/days waiting for the download and by the time it's done you're already burnt out
I'm 41 and in my opinion there is or are at least 1 or more good games every year and one, in my opinion, is better than none. Even if we could go back in time to 2003 or whatever year, we would still have a handful games and have to wait for the rest, no difference now
I reckon that’s why we’re seeing so many remakes and remasters now as well. I don’t think people are gripping as much to the newer games these days, or especially our generation. 80s/90s kids. Loved this video bro.
"I prefer indie games, because they are made by people who actually play and like games", yeah modern games are too hard to make and too time consuming to play. It's like this lost art of game making: "enjoying the process".
Awesome video, Devin! You nailed exactly why I still love a lot of older games. I feel like big budget AAA game developers now are trying to play it safe with game ideas. Modern games are more costly to make, but a lot of them feel soulless and aren't much fun to play. I started playing games as a kid in the NES/Genesis/SNES era, so I definitely feel you on many of the points you mentioned. With a lot of older games, the game you got was complete and you jumped right in with very little fluff. I remember studying the instruction manual like it was a final exam! Reading the back of the box always got me super excited for when I finally got the game home. I still play some modern games and I think certain Nintendo games, indie games, and even certain fan games still capture the magic of many classic games. I have a Steam Deck and Retroid Pocket 4 Pro, so I still will boot up old games and have a blast. I think I sometimes enjoy the simplicity and fun of just trying to conquer a classic game with no other reward than seeing the ending. If a modern game is just way too long and expansive, it can really kill the pacing (and my interest) no matter how gorgeous or intricate the game is.
Subbed. Great video. I have started to collect old arcade games, as that was my thing as a youth. I was a pretty hard core arcade rat. The arcade format still stands up all these years later, and my favorite part is, they don`t overstay their welcome.
I think the game as a service ruined gaming because it made developers think of ways to make a quick buck instead of making games fun like in banjo kazooie i remember searching for those cheato books and bottle codes and having a blast trying them out. Nowadays its whats the newest skin for the get rich scheme
Game industry can't produce middle-size games anymore. We lock of some special games now. Indie game is an option but most of them is too small, 3A games are hard to get huge evolution because big company hate risk.
I miss actually finishing a game. When a game is able to grab your attention and keep it for its run from start to finish and it's a thrill ride all the way through. Now it feels like a chore, a checklist of objectives to complete instead of activities that I want to do. The game being fun is the reason I come back to it, I don't need the game to demand 50 hours of me to unlock the "FUN". Just make it fun.
And this is why I'm a huge fan of decompilation / recompilation and sincerely hope it expands beyond the N64 -- it allows fans to get truly creative, far more than is possible with emulation, in adding features and content through mods.
Traditionally, older people dont play much games. By the time you got to PS3 you were that age when you were too old. However, the Fortnite and Genshin Impact Zoomer generation of gamers call your "PS2 era" games outdated when they make TH-cam content about it.
Older people rarely play games or watch cartoons because there was always a "change" that turned away the older group. I found video as early as 2004 where people said, "they used to play games or watch cartoons when they were kids. Now your generation is doing that to the 2024 Fortnite/Genshin Impact/Roblox generation of gamers. And they say "Okay Boomer"
@@sumnahlennon5449 Speak for yourself, I purposely seek out PS2 games to play because the whole era has interesting and experimental games you’ll seldom have now. There hasn’t been a new Castlevania or Mega Man in decades, many games that pushed the envelope either undersold or their companies died, various franchises are in a state of dead and undead, and don’t even get me started on the stuff WE NEVER EVEN GOT IN THE WEST. I’ll take stuff like Shin Megami Tensei 1 & 2, Baroque (Sega Saturn), Virtual On, older Pokemon games, Elemental Gimmick Gear, GameCube Tales of Symphonia, MadWorld, or Killer7 over a large majority of new AAA games for the variety. I don’t need everything to be open world, multiplayer, or indie to find a game fun. Give me the “outdated” generation anyday. -a zoomer
That segment about having to manage your hard drive space for games really hit home with me. Like getting a new game and finding out you have to delete one or two of your old ones to make room for it. Or even better a game requires an update that the space takes enough to where you have to delete a game for that as well.
I have been trying to write a comment to this video for the last hour. I do agree I do miss older games, but its not the older games themselves I miss its that they respected your time, were an actual video game where they threw you into the world after either no cutscene or a small cutscene and that the big time sink game was far and few inbetween which actually made them feel special.
@faequeenapril6921 perfect point. It's not just Nostalgia being the main driving factor of why we miss older games. They were designed by people just like us who love games. When I play most modern games, it feels like they were designed to hack my brain with some psychological player retention trickery instead of being an actual game.
I'm happy this spoke to you. It took going back and playing some classics for me to realize, It's not me, I haven't changed. It really is how a lot of games are designed nowadays
Same happens to me, have a monster pc, that can run anything on ultra, installed all the new games, tested them than a month latter just forgot what and were i was. Guess what, old games are better, they are simple, easy to understand, easy to load.
Unfortunately physical games aren’t what they used to be. More often than not, there’s no manual included, and your disc is basically a physical drm to download the actual game from the store (because 100 gigs don’t fit on a disc) I sound such like a doomer but it is what it is lol
Hey thanks for the mention, I'm honored to have helped bring you new (old) gaming memories!
@RetroGameCorps you just made my entire day! Thank you so much for bringing the fun back to gaming for me!
That’s why I love the steam deck lol. The thing is a beautiful 7th gen portable
was about to quit gaming too but thanks to you i bought a retroid pocket 4 pro and enjoy retro gaming ever since and even discover new (old) gems
Don't listen to this guy, he will cost you a lot of money! 😉
Everything I miss about older games: permanence, quality, creativity
I don't like when games have their online mode shut down.
@@digitaldiablo1653 that’s why I like single player games…That’s not the real reason; I don’t have reliable internet, I prefer story driven adventures, and I hate people. But it’s nice not having to worry about online play (Blizzard…)
Yup, Both Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom I beat the dungeons and never bothered with finishing the game. Just got boring 8 hours in. Classic games are the best
@@chiquita683 botw and totk aren’t my favorite in the franchise. Open world games tend to be pretty bloated, the stripped down story and lack of dungeons was disappointing, and weapon durability and cooking system can eat my ass. But I did have some fun playing them. The exploration was cool, puzzles were neat, and I appreciate the experimentation with the gameplay. Strapping a korok to the front of a rocket cart and sending it cartwheeling over a boulder was satisfying.
Nintendo still makes quality games that are very well polished and complete at launch, and they continue to innovate on gameplay. Also VR gaming is getting a lot more innovation, both hardware and software. Many VR games have fresh and novel gameplay mechanics that are only possible in VR, like The Last Clockwinder, or Eye of the Temple.
games then and now:
1. cheat codes are replaced with microtransaction.
2. rewards and bonuses are replaced with achievements.
3. local co-op/split screen are replaced with online mode, which means you'll need two consoles, two TVs, two same game and two online pass to play with family.
4. 8mb of ps2 memory card was enough for saving, now you''ll need 1tb to at least install few games
True which is sad. Earlier this yr i was playing a ps1 game on my working ps2 and was looking through my memory cards and seeing my 16mb ps2 memory card and laughed as I thought about the fact I made a backup save of my save data on my ps5, the day before, that was 16gb : /
Also woke up
Each port of the same game had exclusive DLCs, like Soul Caliber in Gen 6. I thought that was cool. Also back during Gen 4 the games played slightly differently and the soundtracks were different too.
@@BaDik_Jacob Soundtracks fell off when they could use whole tracks instead of relying on chips that only played sounds of a limited bit rate.
Some composers, like Hiroki Kikuta on Secret of Mana, even engineered their own sound banks to make sure each instrument sounded the way they intended for it to be heard when generated by the console.
Now people just arrange, mix, and export... Not saying that's bad. Having higher quality audio is great. But back in the day any 2 composers would have a unique sound even if they used audio from the _exact_ same synthesizer to generate them. We've lost those technological limitations that forced people to think up unique solutions. Now, those problems just don't exist. It's got upsides and downsides. It's easier to compose and program audio, but overall it stopped being what we recognize as "video game music" and started being just "music."
Single player Cheat codes is a PC thing but it's also a double edge sword as there are also cheats on multi-player.
Ps3/360 era was the last time I felt excited about new games.
It's still crazy to me that those consoles are considered retro now. We we were truly alive during the peak of gaming.
From 1997 to 2007 Video Games went from PS1 240p to HD 720P PS3, compare that with the last 10 years and it feels like we've made no progress at all. The jump from PS1 > PS2 > PS3 is monumental. The Jump from PS3 > PS4 > PS5 feels like a minor upgrade at best.
That was the peak era for gaming.
Yeah those were good times.
@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக் you must be joking. Tell me silent hill 2 remake or horizon fw ps5 or ratchet and clank rift apart or returnal look barely better than a ps3 game
I miss when games had a clear beginning and end. You replayed the game if you wanted to, not because the game lured you into it. Now many games are designed to be neverending, eternal grindfests. They're designed to prey upon your ego, to be addictive, to make you feel bad if you quit.
When you're right
You're right!
And money money!
Spider-man 2 and Jedi Survivor in a nutshell
OG Spider Nan 2 would never
@@paulgilbert5278 oh yeah OG for sure, but I'm talking the mediocrity that came out this last year. Disappointing how that game turned out compared to the 2018 game.
Just remember, it's not your job to enjoy games. It's the game's job to entertain YOU. If the game has only kept you engaged halfway, that's the game's fault for boring you, not the other way around. Saying no to certain games means saying yes to utilizing your time for better things.
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incorrect, the function of the game is not to entertain you, it is also to have your own predisposition before playing a game, watching a movie or reading a book. I'm not saying there aren't bad entertainment products, there are many. But there are a lot of good jobs that you are not enjoying simply because you don't do a little bit of your part to do it, if you are tired, depressed or if you are a guy who doesn't pay attention to anything he is witnessing it is your fault. If you really are your maximum emotional and mental capacity when consuming an entertainment product and then realized that you didn't enjoy it, it's probably because the product is really bad or it's just not for you.
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@@Dagon911yah that’s not it buddy try again please
@@Dagon911 I agree. I am the biggest offender when it comes to losing interest when the pay-off was probably worth it. It isn't the game's fault if you lose interest, maybe the game just wasn't made for you.
To be honest i missed older games where things were experimental and creative, back in the 2010s where every company can brainstorming an idea.
indie games still do this
@@ekurisona663 including indie cartoons
I feel like the 2010s were the beginning of the end of the creativity you are talking about.
2010s lol. That was the beginning of the end 😂 I get what you mean though
I'm sure the ratchet and clank devs would still be doing this if sony weren't forcing them to make a metric fuck ton of friggen marvel games...
What I miss about older games is the fact that majority of the games back then felt like completed experience for $40-$50, but now for $70 you only get a 3rd of what the game has to offer and the rest are essentially lock via multiple season passes that are around $30-$40 for each… it just makes me sad and a bit angry to see that.
$40 in 2002 is $70 today so it’s still the same lol
The pay wall is truly the worst thing about modern gaming. That & the rush to launch triple A games loaded with the glitches
@@sov3cd a lot of the times it feels like you’re spending money on a buggy demo rather than a complete experience that feels polished and high quality.
On top of that, in most games the DLC content you buy it doesn't really seems that different from what was already on base game. So it gets really repetitive really fast.
I whould rather replay a 1 hour game thousands of times than play a 20 hour game once and never touch it again.
I miss when games actually cared about the gameplay and fun mechanics, now every modern game is always the same open world action game with one gazillion dollars in budget, I preferred when games cared about being fun.
ik what you mean, i feel everygame that comes out is hyped but they are basically the same, they either a soul like game or a story based game with hyper realistic graphics, i just wish there where more wacky and fun videogames, that's why i like nintendo because they always try new ideas and make gameplay super fun
@@slowdust9541Exactly. Everyone talking about this being the worst generation of consoles is primarily playing PS5 or X Box Series. The Switch has been an absolute godsend as Nintendo has managed to deliver one fantastic game after another.
Tengo Project's reimaginings of some of Natsume's best games from the 16 and 8-bit eras have been fantastic as well.
@davidaitken8503 my only problem with Nintendo is there pricing but other than that I am more than happy to play there games
EXACTLY!!!
I agree. All of these clueless consumers claiming they want longer games "to get their money's worth" are fools! I used to be able to play through 3 to 5 games from the 8 and 16-bit era between breakfast and lunch on a Saturday morning. Even if I had already played through them hundreds of times already that was still a lot of variety. I always felt a sense of accomplishment too, as underneath their surface level simplicity was a lot of technical skill that you could always improve on. Too many of today's games are just filled with repetitive padding.
I feel the PS3/360 era is where modern gaming and creativity peaked. Everything after became more corporate, more monetized, more safe.
What’s funny is “peak gaming” keeps getting pushed forward in time.
I’m going to take a wild guess and assume you were a kid/teen during the PS3/360 era. Don’t you think that has a huge influence why you like that era more?
That was also the era that kicked off a lot of horrible industry trends that persist to this day
Not saying it wasn’t good, just that it was the beginning of the end
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PS3 = mandatory installs, bloated game budgets
XBox 360 = paid online multiplayer
Both = incomplete games requiring day 1 patches
The biggest problem with anything trying to "go for realism" is it limits the imagination. Back in the 80s and 90s, we had loads of colorful, mascot style characters. Many of them weren't human, and even the ones that were had unique silhouettes and colorful designs. Characters would be able to jump tens of feet in the air. Enemies and bosses could defeat you as quickly as you defeated them. You usually had to learn and master earlier parts of the game thanks to limited checkpoints and lives running out (a good and bad thing about retro gaming). Nowadays you have mostly human protagonists (usually middled aged men or androgynous teenage boys), you jump a "realistic" height (if at all), boss fights usually take over ten minutes (sometimes with no checkpoints if you lose most of the way through), and checkpoints are everywhere with no limits (this varies and isn't necessarily a bad thing).
Music has gone from being melodic and memorable to atmospheric and kind of bland. Weapons and methods of attack are often "period-accurate" rather than imaginative or unique (guns, swords, knives Vs. Mega busters, whips, boomerangs). Main point being, realism kills imagination.
I also hate when they try to add realistic morals to video games, it's literal fiction, it's not the place for 'right and wrong' morality lessons!
@@Tam00393 I will disagree with you on that. Stories, fiction or not, has always been a way to convey messages of morality (among other things).
I agree with you up to a point, because games like Doom, Splinter Cell, Half-Life, the first Assassins Creed, Ultima, etc all had a realistic approach and attempted a realistic take on graphics as much as it was possible at the time. And they were still amazing.
@@Daniel__Nobre I'm not saying you can't have amazing games steeped in realism. But imagine the possibilities some of those games could have had with more creative approaches. Or more memorable music. Or if some of them didn't feature a human protagonist, or realistic physics (tbf Assassin't Creed's tower dive is very unrealistic), or if they used a large variety of vivid colors and varied environments. Like they were amazing, I agree. But we get so many realistic games these days they feel very same-y.
@@GoeTeeks I completely agree with that part yes. I grew up with 16bit Sonic and Super Mario and Earthworm Jim, Comix Zone, etc so for a long time the idea of reaching realistic graphics was a dream.
But I agree the pendulum has tipped way too much into that side now and we lost a lot of innovation and great art direction and indeed crazy design explorations.
Given today’s technology it would be great to bring that boldness of the 90s and apply it to what could be achieved now. Indie does it a bit, but it still feels mostly very safe and as such so far away from the diversity of types of ground breaking games we saw in the 90s.
And that includes, like you say, crazy weapons concepts, colourful mascots with an attitude, gameplay involving interesting powers.. treating videogames again like fun toys and sandboxes..
I feel you. It gets boring having to pick up 200 branches, 100pieces of cloth and 50 beast tooth's to upgrade a sword. Why not give me natural progression? You finish a mission and can select an upgrade of your choice or the boss you kill drops a new weapon.
Also the traveling. I want a 45 minutes gaming session after work. First 10 minutes to climbing a mountain to reach a minor upgrade to my health bar. Then 5 minutes going to the nearby marker on the map to get an accessory I will never use. Then 5 minutes traveling to the sidequest. I play the sidequest for 20 minutes and the last 5 minutes I fast travel to town to sell all useless scraps and bits you pickup. My gaming is done for the evening without any progression in the story or feeling of accomplishment.
Modern games lack density. Everything fell apart when people started judging games by how long they take to beat to feel they got their money’s worth. AAA is now bloated with huge worlds and cutscenes, they just take the content of older games and stretch it to be 10 times longer. You can easily make a very fun game without many years of development or budgets in the hundreds of millions. You just need devs with talent that know how to not waste the player’s time with boredom. There’s a reason why indie games fill the void left by AAA. Less is more in this case.
Basically, I came to play games to have fun and escape the stresses of life and work, not to go back into after I just finished a weeks worth of shifts!
Astro Bot was pretty refreshing since it didn't feel like work, it was just plain enjoyable
Exactly. I don’t mind upgrading weapons and armor by collecting items, I actually kinda like it, but i hate it when they make you collect a million items for a tiny upgrade and they make it do hard to get them, especially with rare items.
Open world games are pointless and meaningless. The whole travel time between missions are just boring waste. The bigger the map the more boring it is
The early 2000s were the golden years to be a gamer
Nah the late 80's/90's were the golden yrs of gaming. Then again I guess whatever decade you were a kid old enough to start gaming in would be the golden yrs to you.
@@amyhoard1222the thing is the early 2000s still had that old school feel because the people who made them came from that era BUT now it’s people who don’t even like video games making them
@@amyhoard1222 It's more about 2D vs 3D preference. The SNES vs the Gensis era was the peak of the 2D era while the early 2000s with the PS2, GC and Xbox were the peak of the 3D era.
Every poll I find online, these 2 generations are always at the top because they represent the best their era had to offer. Early 2D and early 3D were kind of janky and very limited because of hardware and late 3D has become the slop we all know.
1990-2010 is the best period of gaming in general. The best games of all time came out during that period.
@@Izelor can’t argue with that even tho there was alot of good games that came out in 2011-2013 but after that things starting going downhill it was right after the success of call of duty all these causals came in just to ruin our hobby by buying every DLC/gun skin call of duty came out with
6th gen was the craziest; almost perfect. Very little BS, games worked, systems were truly unique, and developers weren't afraid to take risks.
I agree. I loved, even now, the PS 1 and PS 2. The best game moments of my life. I have only a few modern games that give me any real joy. Many modern games feel exploitative, using manipulation to get you to play and raise the engagement time instead of being fun.
So true this is why I prefer indy games when it comes to buying a new game you can tell they enjoy making games
@MrKingkz u get ones blue moon game that is good.i don't pre order games.i did that with remake resident evil 2 3
This video resonates. Old games had charm, you could feel that the developers poured their hearts out and were excited to show you what they found cool. When I play them, I still can feel the excitement the devs had. They're creative, respect you as a player, actually aim to be fun rather than trying to min-max milking the player's playtime and wallet.
That’s modern gaming nowadays. Also the pacing was far better and far less of a money sink…
I remember reading the manual for Icewind Dale 2 on the way home from the mall with my grandma. And she looked at me and asked "what are you doing?" And I told her that I was learning the rules and the specifics of the game I just bought. And this thing was like a 200 page manuscript. Complete list of spells and descriptions for everything. Everything.
And my grandma, being a little ahead of her time, told me she was proud of me. Because she never even learned a game like chess enough to learn the rules like that. Let alone an entire book. She didn't judge me for something that wasn't real or tangible, but I found enjoyment in anyway. It was an awesome time to be a kid.
This dude explained my gaming experience for the past 10 years
Its everyone’s exp experience unless you stuck to retro gaming
1996 - 2010 was the GOLDEN era of games hands down
I was born in 1996 🙂
Let me guess, were you a kid/teen during those years?
What a coincidence…
@@Indigo_1001I agree with them and I was born in the late 2000s. Older games, especially 90s/2000s just felt super creative
entering your credit card cheat code...💀
one of the best comments i ever saw on steam was someone commenting on valve's doomed card game (artifact)...'most overpowered card is credit card'
@ekurisona663 yeah, it's like the money cheat in gta but in reverse.
That's the ultimate item in all games these days 😭
Gaming has gone the way of music and movies, the golden days of the media have sadly passed us.
I miss having zero updates.
Back then if you ship a broken game, you are cooked. No online to download extra Gbs of hot fixes
@@KlaymenDelwell , that made the developers more careful , which lead to better games on release , less bugs and a WAY smaller size
@@maximus2463 led*
Retro games are not dead there just indie now
A lot of new games coming out are just remasters, remakes or HD collections. Old games never died and based on what I heard and seen from having an arcade walking distance from me. Kids play their Fortnite and other free to play games but a lot are going back to 90s games
You're dead on. Remember games like shovel knight feeling like an nes game. Now we have games like crow country that feel like ps1 games. It won't be too long and we'll have indie games that feel more like the AAA 6th generation. I'm already seeing games like night runners looking like a black box need for speed underground game. Blows my mind!
There are hundreds of Indie games released every week. Why do TH-camrs behave like only AAA games exist?
@@sumnahlennon5449 Because there is no advertising for them back in the day there wasn't either but they were on the shelf of a game store while you were looking and at least back then they matched triple a games in visuals. Indie games now are hidden away and obviously don't match triple a games in visuals anymore. So I take it a lot of people don't want a $500 console to play a 10 dollar game that has PS1 graphics you want to make the most of your purchase but the industry is in a really weird place where nothing is really lining up anymore and its fact that indie games as fun as some of them are will never carry a generation.
@@Tenacityfromtheglass gonna throw in Lunacid as a honerable mention! That game is basically like Is kings field or shadow tower abyss if was made last year.
@@sumnahlennon5449not just indie, there are lot good budget or AA games from middle size companies. People just never glanced at them
The XBox 360 Era is the time I miss the most about gaming
The Xbox 360 felt like Life in general was at its peak back then
@@Tenacityfromtheglass you could say that again
I remember those days the Xbox 360 and PS3 those were good days of gaming so is the original Xbox and the PS2 I just wish they made more games like that. Well, at least we got indie games because that’s the closest thing that feels like retro gaming nowadays.
Things I missed
1. This is the big one. The manual and artwork that used to come with a lot of games including the box art. It gave it so much charm and made me happy to be a collector. Nowadays you just have a generic case with nothing included. Just feels absolutely soul-less.
*2. When retro game shopping used to be affordable. Thanks to scalpers and flippers, the market for older games has increased dramatically and just taken all the fun out of collecting. It used to be before 2010 where you could collect really amazing games without hurting your pocket.*
3. When game companies actually cared about their consumers and would do more tie in deals and promotions for their line up. Nowadays you don’t really hear much about a new game dropping, even the more mainstream ones and when they do they just have fixed prices with nothing really included. No incentive.
*4. No DLC bullshit that most games used to have. The DLC itself a bad thing, but when it’s attached with an exuberant price tag almost as much as the original game, it boils my blood.*
5. Many sellers and companies taking advantage of the FOMO mentality to make consumers buy their games. Nintendo doing this for the Super Mario All-Stars Release was just dirty
6. Speaking of All Stars, just companies being lazy and uninspired and just releasing HD remakes of their older games with little to no changes for the price of a new game. Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze was notorious for this. $50-60 of the same older 3DS game that cost $20 nowadays.
7. This is more of a bone I have with PlayStation and Xbox with how they release their games. Instead of just releasing A1 games with other barebone games in between, throw in some love for your lesser known properties in between your A1 releases.
*8. GameStop in general. In the early 2000s, I used to love going in and seeing the walls of colorful games and other cool merchandise that decorated the stores. Most gamestops I see now have a generic set up display and sell more crappy merch, funko pops and unnecessary game assessories than actual games*
I miss the old days when you could just pop in a disc and play the full game. Now you got company’s like Activision making games like like modern warfare 1-3 which feels like dlcs for skins for warzone
I recently went back to playing my Gamecube after many, many years of online "modern gaming", and it feels awesome.
Most of what you said in your video is what I've been writing about online for like the last decade, and when you share your thoughts like you did on this video, the newer generations don't really understand you, and in the live service games that I used to play, they would often call me a grandpa or make fun of me just because I talked about the issue, but modern gaming which is mostly live service, is just an endless grind that you don't really own, because all the money and time you invest in those games, can be taken away from you any moment that the publishers running the servers want to, or even worse yet if the MMOs you used to play don't go down, they just change so much that they are beyond recognition, and at that point even if the games are still alive, you just don't feel like playing them, because the things that hooked you in or that you enjoyed, were either nerfed or removed because the game decided to go in a different direction, or for the games that used to be subscription based, when they eventually became "Free to play" they were just not worth it anymore, because to pretty much do anything you needed to take out your wallet and spend hundreds instead of the $10-20 you used to pay monthly, and for those reasons and more is that I turned my back on live service stuff, because I want to have fun not have to be enslaved to a stupid game I don't enjoy anymore just so that I stay "relevant".
I also strongly agree that developers need to put a pause on the whole Open World game concept, because nowadays every game wants to do it and because of so many assets and crap those games nowadays end up being 100+GB, and sure while you can say that just because those games can give you 100+ hours of playing to collect and do everything, not everyone is a completionist nor do they enjoy having to do that, so for most people when they get bored or want to try something else, it becomes really difficult to get back into the groove they had with the game, which is like you said in order to not be lost with the progress or story, most people start over and then get stuck again on the same points, and that's actually what used to happen in a ton of older RPGs too, because they were designed to make you grind and stuff to lengthen the game times, but I'm the type of person that just enjoys platformers or action games, so I much rather play a game that I can beat between 2-4 hours, but has a lot of replayability rather than spend 20+ hours in a game that I will never touch again. I recently got my hands on an Ayaneo FLIP DS and I'm totally loving this system, because since it has two screens I can pretty much emulate any console even those that have two screens like the DS or 3DS, and since its portable I can take my entire library of games with me to wherever I go.
SSX 3, Wild Arms, Persona, Magna Carta and Mega Man Legends. God do I miss the styles of games back them. Feature complete, fun, built in collectables, rewards for exploration, and most of all, they didn't make me feel... compelled to play them. I completed them because I had fun, not because they tricked me with manipulative gameplay loops, designed to keep you playing long after you stopped having fun.
@mikerainbow11 I really need to try the persona series someday. I just beat chrono trigger for the first time this year for the ds. Used to play tons of ssx tricky. I loved it when companies weren't so risk-averse with their franchises. Do you remember megaman x command mission?
@@Tenacityfromtheglass Yeah! That game was amazing! I never knew I needed a true Megaman RPG until I played that. Same with Super Mario RPG, just a great twist that payed out so freaking well. I agree, when the stakes were lower, companies could take risks, but with 10s, even 100s of millions on the line, they fall into patterns, manipulation and other predatory processes to get their money back.
Try Ghostwire: Tokyo.
Thanks for reminding me of Megaman Legends 2! While everyone else was turning Ocarina of Time into a world-wide, multi-decade phenomenon, I was building memories with Megaman Legends 2!
5 things i miss about older games
1. attractive female characters
2. everything didn't have to be political
3. no micro transactions
4. Cheats were awesome
5. Games were complete at launch.
I know that feel bro
Shut it chud
Great list! Heres another Multiplayer on the same console with actual friends and not online
A lot of games, especially the widely-regarded "classics" were political
Ah yes, Metal Gear Solid, FFVII, Fallout, etc… not political…
When I was a kid I used to activate the invisiblity, all weaps, and infinite ammo cheats for GoldenEye 007 for the N64 and roleplay as the Terminator. I'd put that Deep Purple song Hush on repeat - it was the closest I had to Bad To The Bone, as played in Terminator 2.
Thanks for reminding me of this time!
I just started my emulator journey yesterday at 36yo, and found my joy in games again. Grew up in the 90s playing snes, 64, gb and my friends ps1, eventually was gifted a ps2 in 2001 from my cousins, and only moved to a xb360 a decade later. Ever since, i never played games again because imo the market went crazy with the prices and "unfinished" releases and countless microtransactions. Last year the oled switch got my attention and i thought to myself "maybe this device will take me back to the 90s". And boy it did. Playing Zelda, Pokemon and all the retro stuff from the online exclusives made me realize that i do still like gaming, just not modern ones. So just like you (because of Russ) i started my emulator journey only 2 days ago from posting this comment with a ps2 emulator and its as good as i remember. Now i remember why i would always say "ps2 is the best console ever made, and nothing will ever match it". Put it simple: it perfectly bridged the gap between old school quirky looking and ultra modern realistic. Meaning it was way ahead of the 90s stuff, but not too "serious" like new stuff. You still had cheats, no microtransactions, the games werent only great but they were also properly made with non or just very minor glitches, and not only could you take your games to a friends house, but you could take your save files too, only today we realize just how brilliant that was! Im playing ps2 on my pc now (even though i still have my original ps2) and im in love again. Good times...
Nintendo is still keeping gaming alive.
Nintendo and indiegame developers
@@weary_millennial-jw6oo the problem with indie is that there is so much garbage so it's hard to find the treasure!
Hell no they aren’t they shut down the ability to emulate games… turn off their old console online stores, refuse to re-release certain games and still charge full price for the ones they do and still have games that run like garbage. Not to mention try to sue people for using a basic game mechanic like throwing a ball to capture something (see Palworld). Nintend literally tries to ruin gaming.
I bought myself a Pi console and never looked back. Now I have like 10k games including Arcade games in it too.
This all still exists in droves in the indie game market. I mostly play games now not made by major studios and it's so much better.
Everything you mentioned; creativity, authenticity, the game being first and foremost instead of a product, and not breaking the bank.
Just this year alone I played some of my favorites for the first time: Perrenial Order, Enter the Gungeon, Balatro, Void Stranger, Buddy Simulator 1984, Dave the Driver, Vampire Survivors, Guacamelee, Pizza Tower, My Friendly Neighborhood...
Those are just what I played this year alone and there's a treasure trove of a back catalog of indie classics to play. As well as AA studio type games like Black Myth Wukong that puts any modern AAA game to shame and made by 50 people.
Games were better back in the day, it's one of the times nostalgia isn't the culprit. Big studios are incentivized to attempt to make the most money from the every demographic with every game.
And they don't spend any of those resources on smaller interesting projects. So originality and a game made for the art of it can't exist bc they can't potentially scare any customer off.
But modern gaming isn't dead. Indie devs don't have that restriction and that's where all the artists went.
I thought I was just getting old and jaded but when I got my PC set up right my world opened up and I continuously find games that can suck me in for 10s of hours.
The thumbnail says “Grand Older Games” and I agree
@@williamhououin Oh, wow! I didn't even notice that when I was messing around in canva. 😅
To be honest, I used to really enjoy all sorts of modern games but once I started playing them a lot, I started feeling really bored with gaming. I would usually buy a new game, try it, get bored after a while and never complete it. That was until I bought Assassin's Creed Origins. I've never played any of the AC games so I didn't know what to expect. Throughout the whole game I was so engaged, it was so fun! It really felt like a breath of fresh air from most of the boring games. The amount of exploration was amazing and I love how you can go from sneaking through bandit camps to going through ancient tombs and finding treasure or solving puzzles. The strategizing when having to going through these camps is so fun too. When I played this game, I realized that games are really fun, it just depends on what games you choose to play. But you're right about modern games being less fun, there's less passion and more greediness. I recently picked up Persona 4 Golden and it's one of the best games ever, I literally can't stop playing it. Can't wait to buy Persona 3 Reload, I absolutely love the theme, characters, OST, and UI design.
We need to cherish the indies that keep the spirit of fun games alive! Got yourself a new sub man, God bless ya!
I have kids now. I'm 32, just set up a retro play room in our basement for the kids as a hangout spot as they're getting older too. My boy discovered the OG Legend of Zelda on NES and it was like watching him transform into a younger kid from the golden years. He was asking and engaging with where items are located in the game world. You don't get that with Madden and I told him that. He appreciates it too, I can see it. were running through Halo and Ratchet and Clank simultaneously now.
We really need a "renaissance" in gaming. But, before that we will have to watch the slow death of the gaming industry. Bloated and corrupted by out of touch executives and political saboteurs!
Great video, man! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
One thing I miss in games is that old arcade level design going from level to level engaging in the games difficult and in depth combat systems with a scoring system that kept you playing these games over and over and over again.
Another Thing I missed was the difficulty in older games such as Ninja Gaiden, God Hand on Lvl Die, DoDonPachi,Devil May Cry on DMD,Final Fight,Street Fighter,King of Fighters,F Zero GX,Gungrave. And having to actually GET GOOD and practice the game rather than playing it once and already being a master at the game.
And another thing I miss about old arcade games is the Linear level design and the level to level system rather than than going around and doing tedious tasks not engaging in the games combat long walking sections of nothingness,and lazy minigames that hurt the games longevity. The level to level system was instant and got you straight into the games combat immediately without wasting any time and in depth scoring systems is just something that needs to come back.
Video games peaked for me in the PS2 era. I’ve played since the NES up to a little of PS3. After halfway through the PS3 lifespan the modernity killed games for me.
What do you mean Modernity?
Your first few minutes are perfect description of how gaming has been for myself the past few years and it is also one of the reasons that I am so thankful that I have a couple modded Vita's, as well as a modded new 3DS LL, in addition to still having my PS3 and my Xbox 360, and all of the games I accumulated on the PS4 and the Xbox one, for to have played quite a few games to the halfway point and then fell off... and then six months later, realizing I never finished it, trying again and doing the same crap?!
So nowadays, I've been going back and playing the older games from when I was growing up that I might've missed? And there are quite a few on the PlayStation, the super Nintendo, the Sega CD, the Sega, Saturn, the Dreamcast, The N64 and quite a few other systems where I still find lots of enjoyment in those games?!?!
I'm currently playing Fallout 3 GOTY on my PS3, Mass Effect on my PS5, Gran Turismo1&2, plus Xenogears, Fear Effect & Chrono Trigger for the original PlayStation, but playing them on my phone, which is amazing!!!! With codes, which makes it even better!!!!
The truth of the matter is, we are in the end cycle for what ends up, becoming a very bad. That doesn't end for quite a few more years now.... but this is also affecting all forms of media and this is why gaming and movies and everything are kind of stale now as well as the world a bit insane?? It'll eventually get back to normal, but if you feel the burden of the weight of boredom and insanity from all the crap nowadays, and you are also not enjoying modern gaming as much as you feel like you should, then you're probably not wrong and you're feeling the same thing. A lot of us are feeling? Just know that the old games that we grew up with are still absolute bangers and I enjoy one if not a few each day!
Props to you showing MGRR during the vid. There were so many titles that I missed when I was younger and because of my budget I’m happy to play an older game over a newer one. The fact that game preservation isn’t as important as music and film is a disgrace to the gaming industry.
I think older games represent a time when we owned our physical media, and companies don't like that. They're so afraid of you buying a used copy of a game that they would go as far as destroying the very concept of ownership. I believe all of this is by design. Even look at the download sizes for these games, sometimes taking up a 3rd of your storage. Is it because they're poorly optimized, or is it because they want it to be the only game you play? What a coincidence that the only game you have storage space for is full of microtransactions. Art is sacred! AA, AAA, AAAA, nomatter how many A's they toss at a pile of trash, it won't turn it into a meaningful gameplay experience unless they respect the art.
Older games, everything was clear. They knew exactly what they were. They were lots of fun.
I have gone the same route as you. I rarely ever play anything new. The newest game i played recently was the Dead Space Remake. But even that is just a remake and i played it because the original Dead Space is one of my favorite games. Other than that i have been playing old games for years now and recently got into buying retro consoles. I bought a PS Vita last week and im honestly in love with it.
I took a ten or fifteen year break from gaming and since coming back the only 2 games that genuinely impressed me were red dead redemption 2, and metal gear solid 5. There's a few others if like to try but my GPU died and it'll be awhile before I can afford a new system.
42 year old gamer here. I just went retro, I like getting those old consoles I never played and try the best games on them; if you go retro and just play the top 10 best games on each console, you have easy 100 games to play, all of them great. Also, a modern game might ask you to put 2000 hours of mind numbing action, but an old game is just around 10 hours, 50 if you go RPG or early 3D, so you can spend those 2000 hours in a huge variety of genres.
So that, get a CRT (or a retrotink), some old consoles, a handful of Everdrives and go nuts. Right now I´m playing a Super Metroid Hack on my SNES called Ascend and it´s awesome, a completely new game made by a crazy talented fan.
Retro died with the N64, but there were still awesome games to play on the PS2, XBOX and Gamecube. Halo: CE will always be my favorite game of all time, all with REAL people in one room. I have every console released in the US, and I have over 14,000 games, but to me, the 360 and PS3 were the beginning of the end. Games went from being played together in the same room to being played by yourself in your own home, with your friend(s) being in their own homes as well.
There is something to be said with 16 people all playing at the same time with Halo, all in the same place and since that time, I haven't felt the same about gaming.
do you have atari?
Its like LAN parties. Man, do I miss those..
I’m literally replaying the Jak Trilogy and the Sly Cooper games and honestly I feel this video like crazy right now
I love arcade games from the late 80s to the early 2000s
Light gun crt games.
Some plug and play games.
VR can be fun.
I miss light gun games
This happened to me when Xbox 360 and PS3 came around. Be happy you made it this far before realizing gaming is dead
When you talked about buying new games, but for whatever reason not finishing them, and going back to older games, I felt that. That's so relatable to me. You articulated exactly why I don't care about modern gaming anymore.
For me, as modern as I'll go is the Switch, but I have more fun modding older consoles, and giving them quality of life improvements, and getting lost in playing older games. Modern gaming is dying on the vine in real time, and it makes me appreciate what came before even more.
I have gone retro now. Brought a dsi xl, new 3ds xl, got classics Kirby Super Star Ultra, A Link Between Worlds. Oh and i also love Super Mario RPG Remake on the Nintendo Switch.
Super Mario RPG Remake feels too outdated and it’s too unbalanced. I don’t think that game does enough to modernized SMRPG and it feels like it’s too much on a _low_ budget. It hasn’t improved the writing issues of the original. It hasn’t improved the gameplay or the horrible lack of balance. It hasn’t improved upon the lack of Difficulty or barebones story or the lore or postgame content or bothering fleshing out the main cast or giving you new party members like Booster or Luigi for example.
SMRPG Remake always feels like it’s just doing the bare minimum of video game remakes even when you compare it to other Remakes. Also the Artstyle change from the Original Game is also washed out and bad…
that is what i love about games, you can be
leon kennedy
isacc clark
link
batman
spiderman
samus 2d or 3d
or any good action or turn based rpg character
and have fun while "saving the world"
You know what is crazy? I'm experiencing a lot of these older games for the first time Alex Kidd, Gears of War, Ninja Gaiden Black, Ridge Racer Type 4 and i can see what you talking about without the nostalgia involved and some things was just better.
When nothing new excites me I go to some site where i can download a rom of a "new old game" and thats what saved my hobby, honestly.
Games just used to be better. That's it.
This video basically took every word out of my mouth.
Precisely articulated the way i feel about the current state of gaming
There's plenty of old school games to last a lifetime. Sometimes we get cool newer indie games too but I play 90% old school lol
Damn this felt sad 🙁 Sadly that 'modern game fatigue' is way too common
My passion for games died right after the PS4 came out as I didnt like anything but Call of Duty anymore and I didnt even like that ever again as soon as the PS4 came out. Going to retro games on the Switch and Steam have I been able to make a return in a massive way and love gaming now more than I ever have at any point in my life and I just play old games.
Straight up and honest my man.Fascinating to watch this.Please keep them coming 👍
I agree buddy, I miss older games as well, these days I’m mostly playing Xbox 360 and Xbox One games on my Xbox Series X, apart from games like Lego Star Wars the Skywalker saga, even though these games have paid dlc. 👍🏻
The simplicity of plug N play.❤❤ No Internet requirements. No subscriptions. No loot boxes. NO MICRO TRANSACTIONS. No accounts or sign in. ❤😂 God I miss the old ways gaming.
Im playing Final Fantasy 7 and 15 both for first time at same time. Its night and day. Ff7 pacing is so quick and its hard hitting with the emotions. I never get a chance to breathe. Feels like so much is happening in such a short period of time, an emotional roller coaster. Meanwhile in ff15 i am feeling literally nothing. It has a huge open world full of sidequests and im spending majority of the time waiting for the car to arrive at the next destination. So much to do yet feels very unfufilling. We are just a bunch of bros driving around on a roadtrip while our war is tearing our country apart but everything is happening offscreem there is zero emotional impsct!
It's called gameplay density. Something modern game developers forgot about.
@@magicjohnson3121 im jumping between games but just started nier replicant and first hour of thr game im just doing these dumb mmo style fetchquests omg.
Full of side quests? Ehh
@I_Am_The_Social_Reject yes ffxv they ask you fo fish to feed starving kitten. Get repair kit to fix some guy broken car. Hunting monsters. Cid wants you to find stuff to upgrade your weapons. Theres some guy who also needs errands done. I just started ignoring it all and focus on the main story.
@@ziljin that's not a lot. I platinumed the game quickly. Low effort. I never platinum anything. It's a very bare bones game
It's definitely the simplicity, hop in hop out, local co-op, complete on launch, no micro transactions, and time to beat that I miss the most.
Most games are overly complex with mechanics or controls (which I do truly love). You have to invest extensive amounts of time to enjoy or make any noticable progress, which when limited on game time defeats any purpose to play other than to inch along the story. Most games only allow online co op with limited local if any. Games either launch incomplete, in total shambles, or have necessary content locked behind DLC. And to top it all off most games now a days are so massive they take 30+ hours just to get through, and that's not including side quests and over all exploration.
It's funny because all of these things (aside from micro transactions) are either things that wouldn't bother me or I would have wanted, complex gameplay, longer story and time to enjoy the game plus more to do.
Having so many games to choose and play at my finger tips also adds to the struggle of enjoying games, which is why I often revert back to old favorites or shorter games I can hop in and out of without fear of having to catch up on story i forgot or just can't mentally grasp at the time. The Steam Deck has been amazing for this.
That first 1:25 is so relatable there are very few games I like that I actually don’t need to be forced to play I actually had to stop playing rdr2 because I didn’t want it to end, but with a lot of games I do the same shit that he said and rinse repeat and then go spend 60 plus hrs on a game I’ve had for ages.
Same except RDR2 is the game I keep trying to play and resetting lol
I have lived through the golden age of video/arcade gaming (from 1977 to present) and would not trade my early memories for anything. I too, am a curent gamer with my Xbox Series X, PS5, Switch, and PC games. However, there are many times when I will go back to my beloved NES and pop in Super Mario Brothers 3 and feel like a kid again. Thank you, Devin!!!
I miss browsing thru gaming magazines and seeing upcoming releases and a brief description on what it is about.
Buying just one game, sometimes even for a whole year, being excited about it and keep reading the description of the game at the back of the packaging on the way home.
There was a time also that there were no memory cards and saving games. Every time I turn off the PC/console I knew I will lose my progress - and I'm willing to just start the game all over again the next time I boot up my gaming system. No gaming guides or playthroughs. If there were cheat codes, it's passed around by mouth in the classroom and writing it on a scratch paper.
Can't remember how many times I repeated Full Throttle, Lion King, Earthworm Jim, Toy Story, Cool Spot, Contra, Castlevania, etc etc.
To this day I still prefer pixel games and even point and click adventure games. Timeline-wise, PS3 was the last time I remembered getting hyped about new releases.
I have the PS4 but I rarely play it since I had it.
I grew up with the NES/SNES/Genesis/N64 and quit playing gaming for a long time. When I came back, I just wanted my old games, so I went and found them. Overtime, I discovered gamecube, really liked it. Collected it too. I discovered similar games to my retro games, like Cuphead. I have a Switch and it's mostly retro games, like Contra Anniversary Collection, Smash Bros and I order retro inspired games like Iron Meat and Rugrats. I've never had an Xbox, or any free to play type of game. I've never played the new Spiderman, none of it. I don't really feel a need to. I just enjoy the games I've always enjoyed. I think I'm just a Nintendo person, and they're still how they've always been. At least the games I play. I've never really played anything online though, so I have no idea what's going on with that.
This is a great video. I don’t ever comment on videos, but this one hit home. I exactly agree with you. And putting value on older games, you realize that just because it’s new doesn’t mean it’s more fun. Plus every game that I never got a chance to play back in the day is still new to me!
0:19 I can very happily say that as a Nintendo Switch owner, I don't have this problem.
Nintendo been selling customers the same games over and over again. 😂😂😂
@@dwg8084 you say that like it hasn't been the case for Nintendo AND the rest for decades.
Bro you've described my exact feelings on gaming . I was born 94 so i got the tail end of the golden era for gaming growing up from gta 2-5, nba live 00- 10, nba 2k1- 2k13 , tony hawk pro skater series, zelda, halo, crackdown, saints row 1-3, prototype series, sly, spyro, ratchet and clank, mario kart, need 4 speed, midnight club series , prince of persia, street fighter soul caliber , tekken series , mortal kombat ssx tricky, atv vs motorcros, Skate series spiderman 2 , web of shawdows and ultimate spiderman, early batman games like vengeance etc etc all of those are far better than any games that came out in the last 5 years. I miss playing the game to get better without feeling like im being cheated by the game to force me to pay so i can have fun and compete. I miss games being released in their complete form ready to play out the box.
I love nearly every game you just mentioned. Especially sports games back in the day. They were so cool! I'm currently playing a game called Helskate that you might like. It's a mix between Tony Hawks pro skater and devil may cry. I never knew I needed a hack and slash pro skater game 😂
At 1:05 so true I just redownloaded Red Dead Redemption 1 , Fable 3 , GTA SA
Same here, been beating the absolute hell out of L4D2 and the DLC for weeks now. Still play FarCry5, still play Diablo3, still play The Legend Of Dragoon, still play Phantasy Star 4.
The only newer game I play now and again is Armored Core 6. Other than that it's Far Cry 5. Nothing new appeals.
Games used to be cinema; a rollercoaster of fun with a smooth flow to it's gameplay and level design. Now they ask me to "work" for them, grinding to finish the season pass ... or grind like I used to with an JRPG, because now a lot of games have RPG elements with numbers, customization and loot rarity because these elements turn a 10 hour game into 30 and it's all work and no fun.
i miss those old graphics, i miss when games actually felt like games, i miss replaying a game over and over and never getting sick of it because of how good it was and i miss when you bought a game and knew it was completed nowadays a game comes out with hella bugs and shi
I bought my V2 Switch in 2019 and it made me a Gamer again! Without the Switch I would have gave up on gaming altogether long time ago. I don't use my PS4 anymore it's just my Resident Evil machine.
I also found Retro Game Corps and bought my RG35XX-H and now I can play any GBA and PS1 game on that little pocketable device. Right now I play Golden Sun, Colin McRae Rally 2.0 and Street Fighter Alpha 3 on it. As a husband I don't have the time to play many hours on my TV but I have always a few minutes for 1 or 2 rounds of Street Fighter or a race in Colin McRae wich is just Awesome!
I just picked up that red rg35xxsp and it makes a world of a difference when playing gba games. It's cool whenever I see other people getting into retro handhelds, living outside the bounds of conventional gaming.
@@Tenacityfromtheglass I still use my Switch I just don't buy that many games because of the Anbernic device... But I still bought a used Switch for my 8 year old niece for her birthday because that console is perfect for her needs.
I hate Nintendo as a company but their games in the modern landscape are still the best. It would be worse without them.
bro, I feel what you've said in this vid on a spiritual level - what hit me was the photo album analogy. I of course still enjoy gaming now, but there are millions of moments I miss that feeling of completing Teen Titans Battle Blitz, Lego Star Wars 1 & 2, DBZ Sagas on ps2 and gamecube with my cousins for the first time as kids in the early 2000s or the fresh smell of an instruction booklet and the plastic on the case of the game it came with. I am an only child so, you can imagine that feeling hitting soooo much harder back then, trying to recreate those moments and even making new memories hurts sometimes because, some may take it all for granted while we just want to have fun. Despite everyone having lives and stuff, the things that bring enjoyment in our lives should evolve as we do, but instead they tax us and become a "backlog". Keep the vids coming though, new subscriber here!
@bertrandbest 100% agree with you on the things we enjoy should evolve with us. My cousin recently came over and we had the ps2 on the projector playing against each other in dbz budokai 3, and for a moment, I almost started to cry because the last time we played ps2 together, we were kids.
@ *moment of silence* we gotta Keep our inner-child happy man, always. Thankful I have most of my consoles and handhelds from way back when. I carry my modded GBA with me most places and I promise you I enjoy every second of it lol
Miss the old days when we lived our life for real… the games back then were everything but money. It was all about having fun, about friends getting together… it was about the boxes, manuals… maps… putting the puzzle together… oh man… glad to have experienced the 80s and 90s…
The pain of waiting for 40GB+ games to install is unmatched 😭 you'll buy a game and spend hours/days waiting for the download and by the time it's done you're already burnt out
I'm 41 and in my opinion there is or are at least 1 or more good games every year and one, in my opinion, is better than none. Even if we could go back in time to 2003 or whatever year, we would still have a handful games and have to wait for the rest, no difference now
I reckon that’s why we’re seeing so many remakes and remasters now as well.
I don’t think people are gripping as much to the newer games these days, or especially our generation. 80s/90s kids.
Loved this video bro.
"I prefer indie games, because they are made by people who actually play and like games", yeah modern games are too hard to make and too time consuming to play. It's like this lost art of game making: "enjoying the process".
Awesome video, Devin! You nailed exactly why I still love a lot of older games. I feel like big budget AAA game developers now are trying to play it safe with game ideas. Modern games are more costly to make, but a lot of them feel soulless and aren't much fun to play.
I started playing games as a kid in the NES/Genesis/SNES era, so I definitely feel you on many of the points you mentioned. With a lot of older games, the game you got was complete and you jumped right in with very little fluff. I remember studying the instruction manual like it was a final exam! Reading the back of the box always got me super excited for when I finally got the game home.
I still play some modern games and I think certain Nintendo games, indie games, and even certain fan games still capture the magic of many classic games. I have a Steam Deck and Retroid Pocket 4 Pro, so I still will boot up old games and have a blast. I think I sometimes enjoy the simplicity and fun of just trying to conquer a classic game with no other reward than seeing the ending. If a modern game is just way too long and expansive, it can really kill the pacing (and my interest) no matter how gorgeous or intricate the game is.
"Older games" and it starts with an Xbox 360 logo.
Oh man im an old man arent I?
I know right my first game and favorite game ever was super Mario brothers 2
Were you born in the late 1900s?
@@Trapezius_God yes
@@jonathanbradley4896 It's over with. Time for the retirement home (me too).
Next year the 360 will be 20 years old.
That sounds retro to me
Subbed. Great video. I have started to collect old arcade games, as that was my thing as a youth. I was a pretty hard core arcade rat. The arcade format still stands up all these years later, and my favorite part is, they don`t overstay their welcome.
I think the game as a service ruined gaming because it made developers think of ways to make a quick buck instead of making games fun like in banjo kazooie i remember searching for those cheato books and bottle codes and having a blast trying them out. Nowadays its whats the newest skin for the get rich scheme
Game industry can't produce middle-size games anymore. We lock of some special games now. Indie game is an option but most of them is too small, 3A games are hard to get huge evolution because big company hate risk.
Congratulations on making it to 1000 subs, Devin! Here's $2 out of your own wallet.
Thank you so much... hey, wait a minute!
I miss actually finishing a game. When a game is able to grab your attention and keep it for its run from start to finish and it's a thrill ride all the way through. Now it feels like a chore, a checklist of objectives to complete instead of activities that I want to do. The game being fun is the reason I come back to it, I don't need the game to demand 50 hours of me to unlock the "FUN". Just make it fun.
movies too
music too
internet too
😢
Take me back to 2004!
artists need their peace, and it seems the peace is gone
People too 😂
@@Sh3ail 🪙
And this is why I'm a huge fan of decompilation / recompilation and sincerely hope it expands beyond the N64 -- it allows fans to get truly creative, far more than is possible with emulation, in adding features and content through mods.
Totally with you, man. I only got as far as the PS3. But I mostly play ps2 and psp.
Traditionally, older people dont play much games. By the time you got to PS3 you were that age when you were too old.
However, the Fortnite and Genshin Impact Zoomer generation of gamers call your "PS2 era" games outdated when they make TH-cam content about it.
Older people rarely play games or watch cartoons because there was always a "change" that turned away the older group.
I found video as early as 2004 where people said, "they used to play games or watch cartoons when they were kids. Now your generation is doing that to the 2024 Fortnite/Genshin Impact/Roblox generation of gamers. And they say "Okay Boomer"
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Speak for yourself, I purposely seek out PS2 games to play because the whole era has interesting and experimental games you’ll seldom have now. There hasn’t been a new Castlevania or Mega Man in decades, many games that pushed the envelope either undersold or their companies died, various franchises are in a state of dead and undead, and don’t even get me started on the stuff WE NEVER EVEN GOT IN THE WEST.
I’ll take stuff like Shin Megami Tensei 1 & 2, Baroque (Sega Saturn), Virtual On, older Pokemon games, Elemental Gimmick Gear, GameCube Tales of Symphonia, MadWorld, or Killer7 over a large majority of new AAA games for the variety. I don’t need everything to be open world, multiplayer, or indie to find a game fun. Give me the “outdated” generation anyday.
-a zoomer
That segment about having to manage your hard drive space for games really hit home with me. Like getting a new game and finding out you have to delete one or two of your old ones to make room for it. Or even better a game requires an update that the space takes enough to where you have to delete a game for that as well.
I have been trying to write a comment to this video for the last hour. I do agree I do miss older games, but its not the older games themselves I miss its that they respected your time, were an actual video game where they threw you into the world after either no cutscene or a small cutscene and that the big time sink game was far and few inbetween which actually made them feel special.
@faequeenapril6921 perfect point. It's not just Nostalgia being the main driving factor of why we miss older games. They were designed by people just like us who love games. When I play most modern games, it feels like they were designed to hack my brain with some psychological player retention trickery instead of being an actual game.
This video has actually helped me so much I’ve been stuck in such a rut lately with my PS5. This has given me hope thank you!
I'm happy this spoke to you. It took going back and playing some classics for me to realize, It's not me, I haven't changed. It really is how a lot of games are designed nowadays
I always referred to the upgraded wooden sword in Ninja Gaiden Black as the 'Spanker'.
Same here! I once even referred to it as the principal's paddle
Sounds like this came right out of my head, man. Theres a shit ton of us that are kindred to your feelings, homie.
Same happens to me, have a monster pc, that can run anything on ultra, installed all the new games, tested them than a month latter just forgot what and were i was. Guess what, old games are better, they are simple, easy to understand, easy to load.
You put into words how I have felt about the gaming industry the last 10 to 15 years. Thank you for that. Steam deck with 1.5 tb of retro ftw
Unfortunately physical games aren’t what they used to be. More often than not, there’s no manual included, and your disc is basically a physical drm to download the actual game from the store (because 100 gigs don’t fit on a disc)
I sound such like a doomer but it is what it is lol