Back in the old days, used to make amyl-nitrite from nitrite salt and iso-amyl alcohol. The hippies used to incorrectly call it amyl-nitrate and wanted some to use as a type of aphrodisiac. I obliged them and synthed up a batch. I never understood until one day after a synth I washed the reaction flask with some hot water in the sink. Only then did I finally understand why it would probably work for that purpose.
@@Joefabricator It gives a high that lasts about 2-3 minutes. Within that time frame your mind wants things that a sane mind might not. The stretch of the anus produces an intense release of endorphins in the brain, so unless you have experienced it, you wouldn't understand.
You need USP grade SN to make consistently good ester nitrites. Once opened it needs to be protected from O2. If the SN isn't good, the reaction temp will spike and you will have all sorts of horrid impurities making it impossible to preserve. You need to absolutely keep the reaction temperature as close to 32F as possible.....a range of 25 to 35F might suffice. Keep in mind that when you mix SN in water, it sucks up heat fast. You need to factor in this temperature change. The temp can drop 10F in a heart beat. If the temperature is too low, the yield will be scant and you will gets tons of thick precipitate.
Nitrite esters generally smell very SWEET and FRESH when first made. If they are NOT pure, they will not smell this way. They will have off odors of bitterness or acid or unpleasant, adulterated base alcohol odors.
Nitrite esters can be incredible aphrodisiacs, but they have to be pure. They are unstable and do decompose fairly rapidly. Furthermore, the sodium nitrite used to make them is very sensitive to oxygen so it's important to use fresh sodium nitrite of KNOWN purity or you will end up with lots of impurities that will interfere with any desirable effects.
@i Prakash Amyl nitrite cannot be dosed accurately via ampules. There are patents trying to address this issue. Amyl nitrite is ideal for males wanting to bottom. It's like an on/off switch. The second it takes effects, the prostate/anal canal feels relaxed and wonderful. The second it wears off, it no longer feels wonderful. Nipples become very sensitive as well. Toxic impurities, water and acid prevent optimum effects and sometimes add toxic effects, such as unpleasant warming of the face/head.
I put isopropyl alcohol through electrolysis one time & what happened was the electrons pushed everything to the left side & the right bottle was just water,BUT the weird thing is that it turned from clear to a green color. Which made me think that's how they make menthol rubbing alcohol.
I have a friend who used isopropyl nitrite recreationally. I had heard of rare eye damage issues but thought them insignificant. The very next day he woke up with a permanent weak spot in his vision that never recovered. You have been advised. I always use an ice bath and have to babysit lest the ice run out and things overheat. I once realized too late that I had added way too much water to the nitrite soln. but as I was now out of nitrite I had no choice but to use it. Besides, the reactant would oil out anyway. But I found for the first time I no longer had gassing and overheating issues even when I became quite liberal with the HCl flow. So the extra water aided in maintaining a higher nitrous acid content and obviously more time for reaction before gassing off. Now I swear by excess water. Someday maybe I will even learn to feed in the sat. carbonate soln. slowly instead of always dumping it and then fighting the foamover. Lol!
@rob leigh You want n-butanol or n-amyl alcohol...nothing ISO. Find a supplier like Science Company in Denver. I use TCI alcohols. Go to Menards and buy Sunnyside muriatic 31%. Buy SN from Duda or Science Company. Buy HiMedia Potassium Carbonate on Amazon. Use excess water, excess SN and acid. 10-11 grams SN in 30mls water, add 11-12 mls alcohol to this, then 15-17 mls acid dripped into the solution at cold temps....you will end up seeing blue nitrous acid. Wash crude nitrite with several rounds of cold water and then 4-5 brine/baking soda rinses. Dry on Kcarb, 20 minutes....pour off on Kcarb 12 hours...pour off onto Kcarb for final storage.
With the extra water, SN and acid, I am no longer getting yellow skin/nails from nitric acid. So I think this method is working much better than a balanced equation.
I have started using molecular sieve drying agent in the bottle. The little tan beads are even showing up where silica used to in medical supplies. Way better than MgSO4.
Amyl nitrite should smell fresh like camphor or have a medicinal scent. Butyl nitrite should smell fresh and VERY sweet like a thick candy liquor. Isobutyl nitrite should smell fresh and like peppermint or wintergreen. Any odor that isn't like these....or any "off" odor of any kind means there are impurities that are not good.
You can use 15mls 70% rubbing alcohol and 10 mls muriatic plus 7 grams food grade SN. No need to prechill this amount or add more water. But do use an ice bath to perform the reaction. Neutralize on baking soda and it's good to go.
I tried this and either my alcohol was weak or the acid was too strong. Make sure to not overdo the acid addition. Maybe check the pH every once in a while. Using Doug's measurements I actually got a runaway from the nitrite decomposing after it got too acidic. I had a scrubber in place so it's not a big deal but still. I tried again and it happened again but instead of adding more acid like last time I immediately separated it and washed it as fast as I could. It worked after that haha.
I have seen Isopropyl Nitrite dissolve steel, epoxy, silicone caulk, magnets and everything BUT glass. The only problem with removing vacuum grease from a seal is having a container big enough to immerse the seal in the liquid. The stuff evaporates so fast it might be near impossible to apply it to the seal long enough without resorting to immersion. Might be possible to wrap a paper towel around the seal and wet it with the nitrite and the wrap with Saran wrap to slow evaporation.
@@fizzyplazmuh9024 That certainly sounds like it would need a hardcore, ignition-proof fume hood to go with it. From the description of this stuff, it sounds like it will make your butthole fall off if you smell it, and you're saying it evaporates agressively.
If the starting alcohol smells better than the finished ester, then something went wrong. The ester should smell better than the base alcohol, absolutely no unfresh, bitter, unpleasant odor.
@@nzcym and the formation of isopropyl chloride happens efficiently at higher temperatures (reflux) while this esterification happens quite efficiently even at 0*C
Wondering if you would make 2EHN? I'm interested in it as a cetane booster in diesel fuel. And could this Isopropyl nitrite be used as a cetane booster in diesel?
prior to this, why most of the article im reading are using battery acid so i used it, but after 2 attempts, it's a fail. Could that be the reason why nothing happend? No oils floating on top, the result is all an aqueous compound. Do you think CHI will make my third attempt a success?
No gases are evolved during the addition of ispropyl alcohol right? If I make this I'll use a 3 necked RBF with a pressure equalizing addition funnel and a thermometer. Since it's a closed system I'll be able to minimize any vapors very well.
saturated sodium chloride is also called Brine - you should prepare a solution and store it in a jar, so you don't have to keep preparing it all the time when required
I was wondering if you could help me, Im using a good grade sodium nitrite and a battery acid electrolyte and its giving me a product that is clear and not yellow. is this correct? what % of sulphuric acid should I use?
+seven sleven I have read to use from 50 to 60% sulpuric. You can use muriatic 32%, which doesn't need diluted. All the poppers I've made are various shades of yellow. Smell it...it should be potent and smell sweet. The sodium nitrite goes bad over time and will make it harder and harder to get a good smelling, potent popper.
A high purity sodium nitrite will produce a deep royal blue nitrous acid that strongly effervesces and is nearly transparent in clarity. Once the sodium nitrite starts to degrade, almost immediately once you expose it to air, it will produce less and less nitrous acid and the color of the nitrous acid will become hazy and light blue and then greenish once the sodium nitrite has totally bit the dust.
Hey Doug, thx for the awesome videos, I've been learning a lot, though in future could you please begin with a few uses of what it is your making? This is great stuff but I'd love to know more about what they do or could be used for, even if it's trivial. THX!!
Well if you sniff this stuff, it will lower your blood pressure, used to be used as treatment for angina instead of nitroglycerin. But it reacts with other blood pressure medications and can cause fatally low blood pressure and spontaneous fainting. The isopropyl ester has the shortest half life of all alkyl nitrites used medically, it goes up not with carbon branch length, but number of carbon branches, 1-butyl nitrite has a shorter half life, never used in humans but I've tested it, 2-methylpropyl nitrite has a longer half life, but less intense effects, amyl nitrite has longer effects with about the same intensity and cyclohexyl nitrite has the longest effects but is not very potent at vasodilation. Chemically they react with ketones under acidic conditions to give oximes and they can be used to selectively nitrate aromatic groups
Wouldn’t nitric acid + alkyl-OH (all chilled and w ice bath) achieve the same end? I have some references on old ways to make ethyl nitrite and several of them go that route then distill into cold ethanol.
Seems like Sodium nitrite is pretty closely monitored now. Been trying to come up with a process for Ethyl nitrite for a metal browning process. Sodium nitrite is restricted but potassium nitrite doesn’t seem to be.
You know? I have the same problem, but I'm wondering if I can substitute it with another nitrite salt? Usually you can get away with doing that! If it be so , well I have a bumper crop of zinc nitrite. But here's my advice! I'm going to go to Google and get on A.I and ask if the substitution can be done, if not all I have to do is ask how to do the conversion and A.I will give detailed instructions! Been doing this for about almost a year now and it is a godsend at times, but sometimes with more complicated compounds you must run a double check with a different source as the A.I can give you a mixed up blue print! Good luck and happy holidays.
hi Since the end of the panic virus leather cleaner quality has gone to hell. Does anyone know what process changes the usa makers have made to their products??? AND does anyone know what shops are making good leather cleaner today?
could this stuff be made by simply dripping cooled nitric acid into cooled alcohol (while its being cooled by ice bath and stirred properly so it wont start popping around and kill everything in sight) if one would have acces to 60% nitric acid but not sodium nitrite. Would that produce isopropyl/isobutyl nitrite or nitrate? And how would one tell the difference? Isopropyl nitrAte is apparently toxic rocket fuel, but is it distinquishable from the nitrite version?
I‘m just gonna try and answer as best as I can: I was very surprised that this esterification worked as well as it did so it might be very plausible that the acid+alcohol will work just as well, especially since (I think) he used stoichionetric amounts of HCl and NaNO2 which means in the end, he did only have HNO2 (and NaCl as a sideproduct). If you try it and that doesn‘t work (highly unlikely) you can just get NaOH and HNO2 to make your NaNO2 which you can then dry (carefully. I‘ve got the suspicion it‘ll decompose to NO and some NO2, especially if there‘s water present). It shouldn‘t form the nitrate bc that‘d need quite a bit of oxidizing which, just using the two reagents, isn‘t really given. You could tell the difference by distillation (iPnitrate 100 deg C and iPnitrite 40 deg C) tho that might be a bit too much work.
ok, so the commercial brands have that "power Pellet" do you know what tat is, why it is, and is there a way to stabilize the product more then a week or so???
why isn't any 2-chloropropane formed? Thinking through the mechanism (assuming an electrophilic addition of the H+ to the delta negative O, forming water, then nitrite ions joining to the carbocation) could it not react with the chloride ions in the mixture as well? Thanks in advance if anyone can answer this.
The mechanism isn't a nucleophillic substitution reaction on the carbon (the conditions aren't harsh enough for a secondary alcohol like isopropanol to participate). Instead the nitrite and hydrochloric acid react to form nitrosonium cation in solution, which displaces a proton off of isopropanol's hydroxyl group by attacking the lone pair.
Hey mate, love the channel! Just want to ask you about that grease you tested the stuff on. Whats the name of that product and is it easily available? Where can I get that grease? It seems like the ultimate grease! :-D
So, guys. I have some questions. 1) Do I have to use technical grade NaNO3 ? 2) I do not have HCL 30% I do have H2SO4 98%. How much i will have to dilute my H2SO4 to make it match the diluted HCL 3)Wich temperature do you recomend to freeze the Sol 1 (NaNO3 + IPA) and the Acid in Item 2 4)The H2SO4 will react with the NaNO3 and form HNO3 therefore react with the IPA forming Isopropil Nitrate (which difference with the 30% HCL or a 30% H2SO4) 5) people often recomend an additive to prevent acid degradation i have heard about sodium carbonate, please recomend. @John John
1) it's NaNO2, sodium nitrite, not NaNO3, sodium nitrate. anything reasonably pure should be fine 2) use an equimolar amount of H2SO4, and then dilute it 3) maybe -10°C. if you don't have a freezer, you could probably just mix the two slow enough to keep it at room temperature. keep it cold to avoid decomposition 4) H2SO4 + 2 NaNO2 > 2 HNO2 + NaSO4 5) i don't know
sorry but about the washing part...is washed by sodium chloride solution...NaCl ? I dont see how NaCl neutralize HCl... I saw in another similar video that it is washed by sodium bicarbonate to neutralize residues of acid...dat make more sense to me.
HCl is soluble in water forming the hydronium ion while isopropyl Nitrate is insoluble in water. This means that when you wash the Isopropyl Nitrite with NaCl the water will be pulled from the Isopropyl thus removing the HCl from the Isopropyl Nitrite. There is no need to add a base to the Isopropyl Nitrite.
I would like to know a simple way to test sodium nitrite for purity? I would like to know at what purity the sodium nitrite has to be in order to get a high purity nitrite ester. I would like to know what sodium nitrite degrades to and what chemicals are produced during an ester reaction once this decomposition has started to occur. My hunch is that sodium nitrite has a limited shelf life and is not stable when exposed to air; hence, high grade nitrite esters are very difficult to make consistently.
??? all the other formula say mix the acid with water, and alcohol, chill, then other beaker add nitrite to water chill to nice slushy state?? you just add the alcohol and nitrite chill, and add chilled acid, no water till in separation beaker??? interesting, I may need to try this way.
steveu235 Sulfuric acid is drier, so won't contaminate the product with as much water, but as he said most of the water was removed in the purification step. Also there are other pros and cons. HCl fumes, while H2SO4 does not. However, H2SO4 is significantly more expensive
You need USP grade sodium nitrite for this reaction to work. If you get degraded SN, you will get all manner of impurities and not the nitrous acid you are hoping for.
This patent: www.google.com/patents/US2927939 claims that alkali carbonates can be used to stabilize short chain alkyl nitrites, has anyone tried this, does it work? i plan on making some but don't have any immediate use for it and weekly pressure venting due to the short shelf life sounds like a pain. Does anyone have experience with this?
The carbonates work but have to be anhydrous. MS4 works too as long as still active. Activated alumina absorbs water which is the biggest enemy initially. They are using epoxidized linseed oil as well. Good nitrites are hard to make repeatedly. You can't judge Doug's brew unless you are sniffing it for odor and effects. Lots of impurities can arise and they make the stuff unfit to inhale.
I don't drink or use any illicit drugs...but you shouldn't be so critical when IPN makes one of the very best aphrodisiacs. People get high on drinking alcohol and nobody thinks anything of it.
Back in the old days, used to make amyl-nitrite from nitrite salt and iso-amyl alcohol. The hippies used to incorrectly call it amyl-nitrate and wanted some to use as a type of aphrodisiac. I obliged them and synthed up a batch. I never understood until one day after a synth I washed the reaction flask with some hot water in the sink. Only then did I finally understand why it would probably work for that purpose.
come on, you can't just leave it at that. Enlighten us!
@@josephhollifield660 Anal pleasures, up to and including fisting. Relaxes the long strand muscles of the anus.
@@kimkindrew9648 Still lost on how that could be an aphrodisiac. I almost barfed just reading your reply.
@@Joefabricator It gives a high that lasts about 2-3 minutes. Within that time frame your mind wants things that a sane mind might not. The stretch of the anus produces an intense release of endorphins in the brain, so unless you have experienced it, you wouldn't understand.
@@kimkindrew9648 I am fine with not understanding. I wish I could go back to not even knowing.
I must have been a chemist in a past life - I found that really interesting! Great presentation - thanks!
Vacuum grease can be easily cleaned with cyclohexane but if you like the cheesy smell of popper, who am I to judge?
You need USP grade SN to make consistently good ester nitrites. Once opened it needs to be protected from O2. If the SN isn't good, the reaction temp will spike and you will have all sorts of horrid impurities making it impossible to preserve. You need to absolutely keep the reaction temperature as close to 32F as possible.....a range of 25 to 35F might suffice. Keep in mind that when you mix SN in water, it sucks up heat fast. You need to factor in this temperature change. The temp can drop 10F in a heart beat. If the temperature is too low, the yield will be scant and you will gets tons of thick precipitate.
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@@tahajaafar6321 Sodium Nitrate
@@Waiting_To_Retire NITRITE
@@jabłczan You're right. Easy to get the 2 mixed up in my head.
stupid. sodium nitrite is not affected by o2
Nitrite esters generally smell very SWEET and FRESH when first made. If they are NOT pure, they will not smell this way. They will have off odors of bitterness or acid or unpleasant, adulterated base alcohol odors.
Nitrite esters can be incredible aphrodisiacs, but they have to be pure. They are unstable and do decompose fairly rapidly. Furthermore, the sodium nitrite used to make them is very sensitive to oxygen so it's important to use fresh sodium nitrite of KNOWN purity or you will end up with lots of impurities that will interfere with any desirable effects.
@i Prakash Amyl nitrite cannot be dosed accurately via ampules. There are patents trying to address this issue. Amyl nitrite is ideal for males wanting to bottom. It's like an on/off switch. The second it takes effects, the prostate/anal canal feels relaxed and wonderful. The second it wears off, it no longer feels wonderful. Nipples become very sensitive as well. Toxic impurities, water and acid prevent optimum effects and sometimes add toxic effects, such as unpleasant warming of the face/head.
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I put isopropyl alcohol through electrolysis one time & what happened was the electrons pushed everything to the left side & the right bottle was just water,BUT the weird thing is that it turned from clear to a green color. Which made me think that's how they make menthol rubbing alcohol.
@ 0:40 why are those sticks throwing a kid?
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I have a friend who used isopropyl nitrite recreationally. I had heard of rare eye damage issues but thought them insignificant. The very next day he woke up with a permanent weak spot in his vision that never recovered. You have been advised.
I always use an ice bath and have to babysit lest the ice run out and things overheat. I once realized too late that I had added way too much water to the nitrite soln. but as I was now out of nitrite I had no choice but to use it. Besides, the reactant would oil out anyway. But I found for the first time I no longer had gassing and overheating issues even when I became quite liberal with the HCl flow. So the extra water aided in maintaining a higher nitrous acid content and obviously more time for reaction before gassing off. Now I swear by excess water.
Someday maybe I will even learn to feed in the sat. carbonate soln. slowly instead of always dumping it and then fighting the foamover. Lol!
@rob leigh You want n-butanol or n-amyl alcohol...nothing ISO. Find a supplier like Science Company in Denver. I use TCI alcohols. Go to Menards and buy Sunnyside muriatic 31%. Buy SN from Duda or Science Company. Buy HiMedia Potassium Carbonate on Amazon. Use excess water, excess SN and acid. 10-11 grams SN in 30mls water, add 11-12 mls alcohol to this, then 15-17 mls acid dripped into the solution at cold temps....you will end up seeing blue nitrous acid. Wash crude nitrite with several rounds of cold water and then 4-5 brine/baking soda rinses. Dry on Kcarb, 20 minutes....pour off on Kcarb 12 hours...pour off onto Kcarb for final storage.
With the extra water, SN and acid, I am no longer getting yellow skin/nails from nitric acid. So I think this method is working much better than a balanced equation.
I have started using molecular sieve drying agent in the bottle. The little tan beads are even showing up where silica used to in medical supplies. Way better than MgSO4.
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Amyl nitrite should smell fresh like camphor or have a medicinal scent.
Butyl nitrite should smell fresh and VERY sweet like a thick candy liquor.
Isobutyl nitrite should smell fresh and like peppermint or wintergreen.
Any odor that isn't like these....or any "off" odor of any kind means there are impurities that are not good.
i have made a commentary question, would you be so kind to answer and exchange tips?
You can use 15mls 70% rubbing alcohol and 10 mls muriatic plus 7 grams food grade SN. No need to prechill this amount or add more water. But do use an ice bath to perform the reaction. Neutralize on baking soda and it's good to go.
Edit at 9:03 :D I forget to take the stopper out of my sep funnel all of the time too hahaha
I tried this and either my alcohol was weak or the acid was too strong. Make sure to not overdo the acid addition. Maybe check the pH every once in a while. Using Doug's measurements I actually got a runaway from the nitrite decomposing after it got too acidic. I had a scrubber in place so it's not a big deal but still. I tried again and it happened again but instead of adding more acid like last time I immediately separated it and washed it as fast as I could. It worked after that haha.
Hey I've been looking around for some hydrochloric acid where did you get yours ?
@@mishmash6991 Hardware store
Is it safe to huff like regular poppers?
Will this unstick stuck glass connections that have petrified vacuum grease on them?
I have seen Isopropyl Nitrite dissolve steel, epoxy, silicone caulk, magnets and everything BUT glass. The only problem with removing vacuum grease from a seal is having a container big enough to immerse the seal in the liquid. The stuff evaporates so fast it might be near impossible to apply it to the seal long enough without resorting to immersion. Might be possible to wrap a paper towel around the seal and wet it with the nitrite and the wrap with Saran wrap to slow evaporation.
@@fizzyplazmuh9024 That certainly sounds like it would need a hardcore, ignition-proof fume hood to go with it. From the description of this stuff, it sounds like it will make your butthole fall off if you smell it, and you're saying it evaporates agressively.
If the starting alcohol smells better than the finished ester, then something went wrong. The ester should smell better than the base alcohol, absolutely no unfresh, bitter, unpleasant odor.
Using HCl in place of sulfuric acid, don't you take the risk of chlorinated compound as impurity in the final nitrite ?
The acid-base reaction (e.g. HCl-NaNO2) is at least million times faster than the Sn2 rxn (HCl-IPA).
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and the formation of isopropyl chloride happens efficiently at higher temperatures (reflux) while this esterification happens quite efficiently even at 0*C
Homemade poppers. :)
Please explain. Amyl nitrate?
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Hello awesome work...wondering if you can show the whole process of ammonia to nitric acid
Wondering if you would make 2EHN? I'm interested in it as a cetane booster in diesel fuel. And could this Isopropyl nitrite be used as a cetane booster in diesel?
What was the damp residue on the hotplate after you ignited it?
lets say if one uses all starting ingredients which are 99% pure... will the end product be safer to use relatively?
prior to this, why most of the article im reading are using battery acid so i used it, but after 2 attempts, it's a fail. Could that be the reason why nothing happend? No oils floating on top, the result is all an aqueous compound. Do you think CHI will make my third attempt a success?
Where do you get sodium nitrite? Does the food-grade stuff (99%+) work?
Heat sodium nitrate to remove one of the O atoms... NaNO3 + heat gives NaNO2 + 1/2 O2
@@SimonBoshoff not true AT ALL! Dont listen to this guy people.
No gases are evolved during the addition of ispropyl alcohol right? If I make this I'll use a 3 necked RBF with a pressure equalizing addition funnel and a thermometer. Since it's a closed system I'll be able to minimize any vapors very well.
@@c2n10 what
saturated sodium chloride is also called Brine - you should prepare a solution and store it in a jar, so you don't have to keep preparing it all the time when required
What's the white chalk looking thing sitting in the flask ?
I was wondering if you could help me, Im using a good grade sodium nitrite and a battery acid electrolyte and its giving me a product that is clear and not yellow. is this correct? what % of sulphuric acid should I use?
The tint in Doug's solution was due to a dissolved amount of nitrogen oxides a colorless solution might mean a more pure sample
+seven sleven I have read to use from 50 to 60% sulpuric. You can use muriatic 32%, which doesn't need diluted. All the poppers I've made are various shades of yellow. Smell it...it should be potent and smell sweet. The sodium nitrite goes bad over time and will make it harder and harder to get a good smelling, potent popper.
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3.14 Do you mix it with water when preparing sodium chloride?
I would like to see isopropyl niTRATE synthesis
A high purity sodium nitrite will produce a deep royal blue nitrous acid that strongly effervesces and is nearly transparent in clarity. Once the sodium nitrite starts to degrade, almost immediately once you expose it to air, it will produce less and less nitrous acid and the color of the nitrous acid will become hazy and light blue and then greenish once the sodium nitrite has totally bit the dust.
Hey Doug, thx for the awesome videos, I've been learning a lot, though in future could you please begin with a few uses of what it is your making? This is great stuff but I'd love to know more about what they do or could be used for, even if it's trivial. THX!!
Well if you sniff this stuff, it will lower your blood pressure, used to be used as treatment for angina instead of nitroglycerin. But it reacts with other blood pressure medications and can cause fatally low blood pressure and spontaneous fainting. The isopropyl ester has the shortest half life of all alkyl nitrites used medically, it goes up not with carbon branch length, but number of carbon branches, 1-butyl nitrite has a shorter half life, never used in humans but I've tested it, 2-methylpropyl nitrite has a longer half life, but less intense effects, amyl nitrite has longer effects with about the same intensity and cyclohexyl nitrite has the longest effects but is not very potent at vasodilation. Chemically they react with ketones under acidic conditions to give oximes and they can be used to selectively nitrate aromatic groups
hi, thanks for good vids. Just wondered if your square tunnel, leading to the external wall fan, is just as effective as a fume hood??
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Wouldn’t nitric acid + alkyl-OH (all chilled and w ice bath) achieve the same end? I have some references on old ways to make ethyl nitrite and several of them go that route then distill into cold ethanol.
That would make nitrate not nitrite if it even works. Isopropanol and nitric acid are known to react in a runaway nitration
Seems like Sodium nitrite is pretty closely monitored now. Been trying to come up with a process for Ethyl nitrite for a metal browning process. Sodium nitrite is restricted but potassium nitrite doesn’t seem to be.
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I so want to make this, but I just cannot get my hands on any lab grade NaNO2 - any suggestions on how to synthesis sodium nitrite?
You know? I have the same problem, but I'm wondering if I can substitute it with another nitrite salt? Usually you can get away with doing that! If it be so , well I have a bumper crop of zinc nitrite. But here's my advice! I'm going to go to Google and get on A.I and ask if the substitution can be done, if not all I have to do is ask how to do the conversion and A.I will give detailed instructions! Been doing this for about almost a year now and it is a godsend at times, but sometimes with more complicated compounds you must run a double check with a different source as the A.I can give you a mixed up blue print! Good luck and happy holidays.
Why would you put the funnel in the freezer
My yield is much less that the yield in the video, but i follow everything correctly. Could you tell me why ? Thanks 😊
Super! Beatiful! Thank you very much!
hi Since the end of the panic virus leather cleaner quality has gone to hell. Does anyone know what process changes the usa makers have made to their products??? AND does anyone know what shops are making good leather cleaner today?
Is it possible to get Acetyl nitrite with this method?
Great video!
could this stuff be made by simply dripping cooled nitric acid into cooled alcohol (while its being cooled by ice bath and stirred properly so it wont start popping around and kill everything in sight) if one would have acces to 60% nitric acid but not sodium nitrite. Would that produce isopropyl/isobutyl nitrite or nitrate? And how would one tell the difference? Isopropyl nitrAte is apparently toxic rocket fuel, but is it distinquishable from the nitrite version?
I‘m just gonna try and answer as best as I can:
I was very surprised that this esterification worked as well as it did so it might be very plausible that the acid+alcohol will work just as well, especially since (I think) he used stoichionetric amounts of HCl and NaNO2 which means in the end, he did only have HNO2 (and NaCl as a sideproduct). If you try it and that doesn‘t work (highly unlikely) you can just get NaOH and HNO2 to make your NaNO2 which you can then dry (carefully. I‘ve got the suspicion it‘ll decompose to NO and some NO2, especially if there‘s water present).
It shouldn‘t form the nitrate bc that‘d need quite a bit of oxidizing which, just using the two reagents, isn‘t really given. You could tell the difference by distillation (iPnitrate 100 deg C and iPnitrite 40 deg C) tho that might be a bit too much work.
ok, so the commercial brands have that "power Pellet" do you know what tat is, why it is, and is there a way to stabilize the product more then a week or so???
It's a dessicant, it helps to reduce water contamination so it will last longer.
What can you use it for Doug?
Cleaning and synthesizing compounds or disco
Use to extract hidrazine from free base in hidrazine sulfate
doesn't it make nitrosyl chloride which then adds the nitroso group on to the isopropyl alcohol?
Did you put sodium nitrite solution in freezer also
What happens when you sniff final product ? :)
Pops and drops
Is there any reason the isopropyl nitrite was not neutralized with a sodium bicarbonate solution?
The water was removed from the isopropyl nitrite since they are immiscible. The acids would remain in the water.
What better solvents could you use for lab grease?
Chlorinated solvents in particular are good at it. Chloroform, trichloroethylene, tetrachloroethylene, etc.
Doug's Lab Sulphuric acid is also used as lab grease, but only in some cases of highly reactive chemicals like pure bromine.
How dilute can the whole reaction be?
why isn't any 2-chloropropane formed? Thinking through the mechanism (assuming an electrophilic addition of the H+ to the delta negative O, forming water, then nitrite ions joining to the carbocation) could it not react with the chloride ions in the mixture as well? Thanks in advance if anyone can answer this.
The mechanism isn't a nucleophillic substitution reaction on the carbon (the conditions aren't harsh enough for a secondary alcohol like isopropanol to participate). Instead the nitrite and hydrochloric acid react to form nitrosonium cation in solution, which displaces a proton off of isopropanol's hydroxyl group by attacking the lone pair.
Hey mate, love the channel! Just want to ask you about that grease you tested the stuff on. Whats the name of that product and is it easily available? Where can I get that grease? It seems like the ultimate grease! :-D
Erik Persson Dow Corning High Vacuum Grease
So, guys.
I have some questions.
1) Do I have to use technical grade NaNO3 ?
2) I do not have HCL 30% I do have H2SO4 98%. How much i will have to dilute my H2SO4 to make it match the diluted HCL
3)Wich temperature do you recomend to freeze the Sol 1 (NaNO3 + IPA) and the Acid in Item 2
4)The H2SO4 will react with the NaNO3 and form HNO3 therefore react with the IPA forming Isopropil Nitrate (which difference with the 30% HCL or a 30% H2SO4)
5) people often recomend an additive to prevent acid degradation i have heard about sodium carbonate, please recomend.
@John John
1) it's NaNO2, sodium nitrite, not NaNO3, sodium nitrate. anything reasonably pure should be fine
2) use an equimolar amount of H2SO4, and then dilute it
3) maybe -10°C. if you don't have a freezer, you could probably just mix the two slow enough to keep it at room temperature. keep it cold to avoid decomposition
4) H2SO4 + 2 NaNO2 > 2 HNO2 + NaSO4
5) i don't know
sorry but about the washing part...is washed by sodium chloride solution...NaCl ? I dont see how NaCl neutralize HCl... I saw in another similar video that it is washed by sodium bicarbonate to neutralize residues of acid...dat make more sense to me.
Bicarbonate washes remove acids, saturated NaCl washes remove excess water
HCl is soluble in water forming the hydronium ion while isopropyl Nitrate is insoluble in water. This means that when you wash the Isopropyl Nitrite with NaCl the water will be pulled from the Isopropyl thus removing the HCl from the Isopropyl Nitrite. There is no need to add a base to the Isopropyl Nitrite.
@ra ba concentrated salt water can "dry" organic liquids because any dissolved water would rather be with the salt than with the organic layer.
What does it smell like?
Why didn't you extract it using an organic solvent?
The organic solvent would contaminate it.
I would like to know a simple way to test sodium nitrite for purity? I would like to know at what purity the sodium nitrite has to be in order to get a high purity nitrite ester. I would like to know what sodium nitrite degrades to and what chemicals are produced during an ester reaction once this decomposition has started to occur. My hunch is that sodium nitrite has a limited shelf life and is not stable when exposed to air; hence, high grade nitrite esters are very difficult to make consistently.
Surprised you are making something like... this
how to make poppers at home
Sodium azide :)
because nitrous acid reacts with hydrochloric acid to make nitrosyl chloride
9:53 and a good vasodilation agent too...
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does it work if i use bacon instead of sodium nitrite?
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??? all the other formula say mix the acid with water, and alcohol, chill, then other beaker add nitrite to water chill to nice slushy state?? you just add the alcohol and nitrite chill, and add chilled acid, no water till in separation beaker??? interesting, I may need to try this way.
Isopropyl nitrite? Sounds explosive. This stuff blow up?
In other TH-cam videos H2SO4 is used why did you choose HCl and what are the pros and cons of each Thank you
steveu235 Sulfuric acid is drier, so won't contaminate the product with as much water, but as he said most of the water was removed in the purification step.
Also there are other pros and cons. HCl fumes, while H2SO4 does not. However, H2SO4 is significantly more expensive
@@TheChemistryShack Hi, does using different acids result in different poppers? aka jungle j vs blue b etc? if not what does?
Nitris acid, or nitric acid?
can we replace sodium nitrite by potassium nitrite
Yes, but you will need to use different stoichiometric amounts.
@@lithiumleopard6048 hi, again will that change the flavor?
Ammounts would be nice
Can you use regular hardware HCl?
Yup
You need USP grade sodium nitrite for this reaction to work. If you get degraded SN, you will get all manner of impurities and not the nitrous acid you are hoping for.
So.. would a different salt work for this reaction? ( AN, kno3, ect?)
You need to use a nitrite (_NO2) potassu nitrite might work, but not the nitrate (kno3 )
@@luisillo3511 thank you. Finally got some and look forward to trying it
@@leepalmer3634 hi what were your results?
Con I use potassium nitrite?
yes, any nitrite salt should work. just make sure it isn't contaminated with nitrates
which one the acic?
Hydrochloric acid is more acidic than sodium nitrite in the presence of water and once reacted, they form nitrous acid.
it work with Kno3?
That's a nitrATE, you need nitrITE
No rxn with potassium nitrite or with potassium nitrate. Only NaNO2
Poppers :D
making people loose sense the beginning of time
Does this relax you in the moment of breathing?
This patent: www.google.com/patents/US2927939 claims that alkali carbonates can be used to stabilize short chain alkyl nitrites, has anyone tried this, does it work? i plan on making some but don't have any immediate use for it and weekly pressure venting due to the short shelf life sounds like a pain. Does anyone have experience with this?
The carbonates work but have to be anhydrous. MS4 works too as long as still active. Activated alumina absorbs water which is the biggest enemy initially. They are using epoxidized linseed oil as well. Good nitrites are hard to make repeatedly. You can't judge Doug's brew unless you are sniffing it for odor and effects. Lots of impurities can arise and they make the stuff unfit to inhale.
John ` Thank you very much!
Can't tell if this prep was successful or not unless the product is tested for purity and compare that to what should be expected.
Possible to use kno3 instead nano3
can use phosphorus acid instead sulfur acid?
Isopropyl is the primary cause of degenerative eye site
😬 please don't pour all those organics down your drain
alsome
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Chemistry is fun when you don't have to do a bunch of meaningless math and terms nobody's hear of nor really matter
Jesus christ, people will use absolutely anything to get high. It's really depressing.
I don't drink or use any illicit drugs...but you shouldn't be so critical when IPN makes one of the very best aphrodisiacs. People get high on drinking alcohol and nobody thinks anything of it.
Depressed? Chemistry can help with that, fluoxetine, sertraline or a good old fashioned phenelzine will help with that.
@@domvasta heh
Its not just to get high, its great for anal sex.
''isopropyl''
Isopropyl nitrite awful stuff it's to acidic for poppers
Does this relax you in the moment of breathing?
alsome