Harbor Freight - You Should Be Ashamed of Yourself For This
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I've pushed the Harbor Freight saw, because of it's cost, but I didn't realize, that it's performance was so bad, next to the two others.
I wonder, if there's a practical way to sharpen or otherwise alter the blade for acceptable performance?
Hello
Thanks for the story
The Opinel is available in a longer size - you can get the #12 or the #18.
That ending makes a guy wish time could stand still.
Is that not the same HF saw you were saying was great in a video a few weeks back and spent a while modifying it because you rated it so highly? 🤔
Wasn't it like 3 weeks ago that you posted a video telling us that the Harbor Freight saw is one of their best-kept secret? Maybe you meant that it is best kept as a secret.
Yes! ...And I went out and bought one of those based on Wranglerstar's recommendation. Doh!
I was thinking the same thing. 😔
I volunteer a few weeks a year doing trail maintenance and my folding saw broke. Bought one from menards and it didn't last two days before falling apart. Lowes only had a very large saw so I checked Harbor Freight and bought one of these. Didn't have time to order one off the internet. I've used it for 8 or 10 days on the trail and it worked great. It is pretty heavy duty and the blade is stronger than others I have used. Of course the silky is going to cut much faster on bigger stuff but I could go through branches up to 4" with a little work. If you are in a pinch and need a folding saw, I would definitely recommend the Harbor Freight saw.
@@ripvanrevs Thanks! Now I don't feel like such a sucker. Dejected, I just threw it behind the seat in my truck. The saw actually looks pretty nice though. I did all of Wranglerstar's mods and the locking mechanism works very well. The handle is solid plastic, not hollow like I thought it would be. Also, I recently discovered that it's identical to the Fiskars 7" folding saw which is double the price... so perhaps it's not such a bad little saw after all.
Stanley makes an excellent folding saw that uses reciprocating saw blades. I got mine in the late 90's and has gotten a lot of use. Mine is day-glo green, the current ones are black.
I would go with the silky for sure, if there is anything in your kit you don’t want to skimp on it’s you knife and your saw
saws and axes require a lot of energy to use . I agree , dont go too cheap or you'll regret it when you need it.
I think the opinel was a little small but maybe not silky for me due to the ability for it to move on you, i would go for the silky if it only had one position
Anyone know how the quality of a Bahco folding saw is?
@@onionhead5780 I’ve had one for a couple years and it’s great, still sharp and the handle is outstanding
Probably a Samurai Kisi would be good enough.
The silky has a second open position so you can saw on a flat surface without dragging your knuckles.
Ahhh, there we go
To keep those knuckles silky smooth. Gives a whole new meaning to knuckle duster. Dont be a knucklehead, amirite? .....
I discovered that feature the first time I used a silky and it really came in handy for that particular application. Not something you will often use I think, but when the occasion does come up to use it, you will be very thankful to have a silky. Well, that and the fact that it cuts so well.
What if people want to be knuckle dragging neanderthals?
@@reaperhunter7297 oh my god, they’re evolving! Backwards..
I've had good results with the $20 Corona folding pruning saw.
I've got a couple of the Coronas. An 8 inch and a 10 inch. Had real nice results! Even keep one in the car!
Which model corona do you have? I see many different models of corona saws in the $20 range on Amazon. Thanks.
Well, it's a bit of an unfortunate time to be branded Corona 😅
I just picked up a corona from the bargain bin at tractor supply. Dont remember the price but id say go take a look at them
@@OverlandOne all of them are good… The 7 inch, the 8 inch, the 10 inch, two different models with different handles. They’re just a great saw they do an excellent job with their blades and teeth.
The bahco laplander is a popular budget option for folding saws, you can even get one in a set with Mora knife. Dont know if it available in the states
I'm in the USA. We have them.
I completely forgot about the bacho laplander.
I think REI sells the bahco laplander
You should add a sharping stone
The sharpal diamond steel is good
I was just going to say that he should add a sharpening system, I have a lansky blade medic in my kit, works wonders on beater knives.
I use diamond files for carrying it's light quick and you don't have to resurface them.
Small file...
Can get Mora with sharpener and fire stick now. Not the greatest sharpener but it's integrated so u can't lose it
Best kept secret to terrible in what, 3 weeks? What a fast turn around on an opinion.....
I was thinking, "Didn't he just do a positive video on this recently?" Good catch!
This was before he did an actual cutting test. Not exactly a full review the first time.
@@panzerabwerkanone Good point, Form vs. Function.
@@panzerabwerkanone Bad form then, posting a video talking up an item before you actual review it. Given that a lot of people value his opinion and use it as basis for purchasing.
I hope nobody needed it as a survival tool for the last 3 weeks
Did anyone’s heart skip a beat thinking that hemlock cone was a spider
You scared of spiders?
Arachnophobia kills , Man .
Nope, I'm a manly man. 😆
Totally
No, I'm not scared of harmless things.
id give the Corona folding saw a try, not bad for just $20
I have this, Great saw for the money, cuts VERY well!
I have a corona saw got it from lowes for around $22 i have only used it a few times but i love it so far
I carry one of those in my pack when I’m out on the dirt bike. It hasn’t disappointed yet.
Yeah agreed!
I too just purchased this saw and it’s great. Much cheaper, and would fit in nicely with this budget kit.
Bahco Laplander- half the price of the Silky - best folding saw I have ever used. The Mora knife is a no brainer and the small axe is on sale here in the UK under a different brand. I bought one and with a few adjustments it is very good.
Out of intrest, what brand is it under for the uk. Thanks
I love my Laplander too ... but I did a little test last weekend with my Gamboy and Laplander.
Same log ... 110 pulls with the Laplander, 51 with the Silky.
For processing wood at camp, Silky. For carrying with on a hike, Laplander.
Both are good tools. It’s like the difference between a Mustang and an F150 ... wanna go fast or do work ?
😎
@@stillnocouch Not a real surprise that the Silkie is better but like the Mora knife the Laplander is a good product that doesn't smash a big hole in the wallet.
Hello michael what is the brand in the uk ? I’ll pick one up my self if I can find one, thank you
I bet it would've taken fewer keystrokes to type the actual brand name than "under a different brand".
I think you missed an obvious option for the saw in the Bacho Laplander at about $25. It was once the gold standard in bushcraft saws, before Silki got popular. I still carry mine and it's never let me down. I think the Corona saws are good too, and inexpensive, as are the Gerber/ Fiskars saws. Odd that you chose 2 of the most expensive compact saws to test for your budget kit. No surprise that the Harbor Freight saw failed. I suppose it's not too difficult to make a decent budget striking tool like an axe, but there's a lot of engineering in a good saw and that doesn't come cheap.
Other than the color of the plastic, this Harbor Freight saw is identical to the Fiskars 7" folding saw.
China usually outsources their engineering and design to the company they've ripped off
Great video as always Cody! Just a heads up on the firestarter: the black rod on top isn't the magnesium, but rather the ferrocerium rod we all love for starting fires. The silver block is the magnesium, and the way it is intended to be used is by carefully shaving/scraping a pile of magnesium, and then sparking the pile with the ferro rod to have a hot burning fire starter, rain or shine.
Yep saved me the trouble
A rule with Harbor Freight tools: the more pieces, the more likelihood its trash.
That’s a pretty good rule of thumb.
It’s really really hard to screwup an axe. But, by thunder, some people do!
Am I crazy or did this guy just do a video a few weeks ago where he not only extolled the value of this tool, but actually took the time to rebuild the blade release trigger because it was such a great value? I wonder what he actually wants his audience to think about this tool - should I heed what he said before or what he's saying now?
He did redo the lock on the saw. It all depends on how much pressure you put on a saw as to how fast it cuts.
Your voile strap link just goes to Amazon home page, FYI
My fav folding saw is the 10" Corona saw.
Watching him try to cut that limb with the harbor freight got funnier the longer it took.
I was ready to take a nap waiting for him to finish.
I was joking that it might cut faster if he flipped it and try to saw with the blunt side of the blade. LOL
Although Silky is the best, the Corona razor tooth is a good saw and affordable.
Beautiful, I have my first grandchild, and a granddaughter. Absolutely heavenly, spending time with pa! (Pa Time) starts every sentence 😊
Fiskers folding saw for $13.99 on Amazon
Got one in my carpack, good call.
Fiskers 7 inch? That one is complete trash the 10inch is good but not $14
@@VenomTheCat fair enough
@@VenomTheCat I think the 10" is like $20 if I recall, that's what I have
Fiskars folding saw should've been included
I think Cody is an anti-Fiskar but I mentioned too regardless
About the same terrible performance of the Harbour Freight saw, in my experience.
Corona Razortooth 8 in. Folding Saw, RS 7255 i couldn’t see me putting anything els with this kit. Would like to see this in the mix.
Harbor Freight kit with mostly stuff you can’t buy from HF.
Got it 👍
Says multiple times he just trying to make an affordable kit.
Edit: Loved the way you tested and compared the saws simultaneously on screen with times at the bottom!
awww! i went out and bought a HB saw after watching your first video about it. Then i watched as you massaged that limb with it and shed a tear. Maybe these east coast trees wont know any better and it'll work here :-(
You should have added a race call to the 3 way side-by-side sawing contest! 🐴🐴🐴 "And we're off! Silky is off to a quick start, Opinel is just beginning to finding it's groove. Harbor Freight is looking more like a firestarter than a saw!"
Mora makes a knife with fire steel in the handle. It’s called “Light my fire”-they sell them on Amazon. I keep one in my pack all the time for hunting, hiking, etc.
I bought the HF SAW because of your previous video then saw this one 😢😂
Love your content, man! Humble, helpful and a pleasure to watch.
Love the gear reviews. Great stuff. Always loved the Opinel's. SAK, Opinel and Mora are some great European tools.
Would love to see you review the Leatherman Signal. It has an included firesteel and whistle. Saw pliers and screwdriver. For outdoor adventures that might need some repairs.
The best folding saw in my opinion is the corona. The handle is non-fatiguing, and the teeth on the blade are really aggressive. It's lightweight compact and a joy to use.
That Harbour Freight saw works a whole lot better if you hold it back by the palm swell rather than choking up on it.
I’ve got a old gerber folding saw my dad used when he was a kid and it’s still going strong probably 20 years later. I pack the saw, a cold steel spetsnaz shovel and a Mora companion every time I’m up at camp hunting or doing other stuff getting ready for hunting season.
"Stop it. Get some help."
-Michael Jordan
Corona makes a great folding saw as well
On those little square fire starters, I always thought the block part was the magnesium tinder and the rod a ferro rod, and not a magnesium rod... I learn something every day...
A couple really good budget saws is the corona saw(meant for tree branch pruning) works great and is lite weight and the bahco laplander classic bushcraft saw.
I suppose that red strap could double up as a way to bundle small twigs for the fire or even a way to stop a bleed if you can get it toight enough
Nicely done as always, thank you for sharing, much appreciated.
Believe one option that would have been nice too, was a Bahco Laplander set of knife and saw for about $29.
Silks are really great, top of the line, but on a test cutting a very sticky Fatwood the Bahco saw really impressed with the results.
Again thank you for sharing, may God Bless you and your family always.
I bought a folding saw from Wal-Mart for $10 that actually works pretty well.
Me too!
The silky would change your life
Yeah, I know the silky would be a lot better, but right now I don't get to do much outdoors, so a $10 saw is good enough for me. I'm sure when my daughter's are older, and I can do more camping and bushcraft, I'll end up getting me a silky.
I've pushed the Harbor Freight saw, because of it's cost, but I didn't realize, that it's performance was so bad, next to the two others.
I wonder, if there's a practical way to sharpen or otherwise alter the blade for acceptable performance?
The red & black Corona folding saw is better than all the other folding saws that I've purchased. A concave curved saw blade seems to be the best compared to straight folding saw blades in my experience.
To improve the spine on the mora basic for sparking fire starter I use my bench grinder and put a nice square edge on it. They don't have a finished spine, to keep the price down is what I've read. The companion and bushcraft come with a nice edge on the spine.
Totally off topic, but my wife has started saying that things "give her the fizz"... The power of repetition!
It's called parroting, at least that's what everyone else is calling it..
@@rabie4x4 hahaha
lol i got my mom saying it. Its a good accurate saying!
Love the Opinel knives - being from the UK they are quite common to see here - particularly in tackle shops along the coast they seem to be a favourite alongside Victorinox. But in this case it would have to be the Silky. That HF "butter knife" looks like it would be a good way to start a fire considering the friction on the wood while cutting :D
$27 saw option - Corona RS7041 w/7" blade
Use the hacksaw blade that is attached to the fire starter as the striker. It puts out a shower of sparks. I wrapped one end of the hacksaw blade with electrical tape to give it a handle. I also sharpened the back end of the hacksaw blade to help it shave the magnesium better.
Excellent info. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for the knowledge of the land and native Americans 🙏
Why not the bigger Opinel saw? They also make replacement blades for that model.
For a second there I didn't think the H.F. saw would make it through before the ad started.
Great video. I'm glad you went ahead with the hemlock story so you didn't forget and we all would've waited in suspense.
The Harbor Freight sounds like you're sawing with a butter knife.
I know this because it makes a distinct sound and I was a horrible brat when I was a kid and a lot of our old furniture carried the marks of that.
The Silky adjusts rearward to use to cut below your position when you are unable to move.
Try Bahco foldable saw, best saw for the price
The Harbor Freight fire starter is a FERRO rod mounted on a block of MAGNESIUM which can be shaved prior to striking the ferro rod.
That was awesome! Especially the end. Praying for you, and yours brother.
Best part about this video is the auto generated Closed Captions when the harbor freight saw keeps going! 🤣
The sweet loaf shorts are the best! Great video all around.
I like the Diablo pruning or demolition blades, a piece of electrical conduit with notches in each end, a loop of Paracord and a flat washer for tensioning.
Not quite so quick to deploy but inexpensive, light, small and it races up there with the Silkie.
That said, the Opinel was news to me. I'll have to get one.
GREAT HEMLOCK STORY...with a moral to boot !!! THANK YOU !!!
I know this isn't about the video but I bought the Grändfors Bruk small forest axe , I love it with one problem, the handle is too small and I can't grip it well and it hurts my hands if used too much.
so is there any alternatives or should I try making a new handle?
Good morning Wranglestar from Harlingen Tx. Thanks for the video!
Try the Marbles Sheath… I bought a few of them to replace damages sheaths. $12 on Amazon. I too hate the fact that the Silky pops back sometimes. Wish they didn’t have that setting. Great Vid.
You forgot one Fiskars, I had their little hands soft and I really like it it slides into the handle so you can adjust the link from really small to full a clip to clip on the outside of my pack for easy access.
That style of fire starter is a combination of a ferro rod and a magnesium block. The magnesium is not just a handle or base for the ferro rod but is a source of extra hot tinder. You make fine shavings of the magnesium on a less volatile tinder and then you spark it with the ferro/ferrocerium rod to ignite it. So, although the ferro rod usually does have some magnesium in it it is not the magnesium block that you strike.
Tractor supply carries the Corona folding saw that only cost 15 dollars when I bought mine. Super sharp
The Hemlock is a mighty elder tree that leaves very little trace behind.
Really Enjoyed the video Cody. I was looking forward to this one, not that I don't look forward to all of your videos. Being a "professional home owner" myself, these items you review that are quality but also a good value really pertain to me. I pretty much built myself the poor mans carpenter tool kit you put together awhile back. Seeing as I live one the west coast there isn't anything I do that's very laborsome, so these tools should last me a long time!
You should do another build series like you did the poor man’s tool chest with all the carpenter tools and then do a giveaway, maybe something like a fire control kit or forestry kit that you could put together for an entry-level price but still keep it serviceable
Harbor Freight Saw, gives you great exercise and no trees will be harmed in the process!
Cool video and by the way opinel also has a bigger saw Nr. 18 it's +-7,5 inche and it has a different lock BUT it's more expensive
I have the Harbor Freight pruning saw you're testing. Compared with two saws that are meant for field work, it's not a surprise that it doesn't keep up.
I wonder if you could set the pitch of the teeth of the harbor freight saw? You did improve the pivot point , so why not make the thing cut better.
Hello Cody. I am looking to pick up an angle grinder and remembered your Fein video. Tried to find it but it looks like it's gone. Did you have a problem with the Fein's? Thanks. Sam
I have one of those smaller folding corona saws it’s pretty nice also
"ozark trail" has a decent pocket saw.
i've found thinner blades seem to be much slower, with the only exception being carbide sawzall blades made for thick wood- they cut really nicely and can be made into a pocket saw with a piece of pipe and some paracord.
Ive always had faith in the red corona saws, usually find them in tractor supply for 19 bucks
Wow. Ty for the info
The French one for the win! I can't believe I said that. Lol
LOL 😂
Opinel makes some great knives and saws.
Hemlocks are my favorite tree. I never heard that story. Now I can tell it around the campfire. Thanks.
SWAP the separate firesteel and carry a Mora "light my fire" version instead which has a firesteel built into the handle.
Junk you can buy a companion and a proper long firesteel for less
I remember the episode you told that story about the hemlock tree to Jack the time when you two went caving!
I would wrap the tools in a good pair of leather gloves. Always good to wear some. For the money on my farm and for all chores I use Master Rancher rough out gloves from True Value Hardware. They are as tough as they come. Cost there is $9.99 + tax. I’m sure they are available at Amazon too. You won’t be sorry.
Gloves have more uses than just protecting your hands. Bandaging, water filter, leather strop, fire tinder
I carry a very similar kit however, they sell an axe sheath on Amazon that has a shoulder strap and fits all these tools plus more. And it is very easy to grab and sling it and go. Pro tip if you carry tools like an axe saw or chainsaw always have a med kit nearby, and on my sling I have a tourniquet strapped and ready to go in case of any major accidents. Or carry a small kit with your chainsaw tool kit. I do both better safe than sorry.
I bought my opinel in college 20 years ago and it's still going strong. It is limited on the size of wood but it's great for crafting.
Also you need to test the magnesium fire starter. There were significant quality control issues fir several years with the harbor freight versions.
What about a utility saw handle, the kind that takes both recip and hacksaw blades? One of those and two or three different types of blades (wood, demo/multi-purpose, and hacksaw)? Maybe a small utility pouch to fit them in. Overall weight and portability would be about the same but it would set you up for more than just wood.
What about a Fiskers folder? I love mine
I've enjoy using the Corona folding pruning saw. Lowes has them for about $28
Loved the ‘Bonus Content’ at the end ! 👍❤️😎🙏
I'm not sure if your review is including anything in your pockets as far as survival but I do like the sharp and spark from sharpens best as it can sharpen and spark or start a fire and there's even a model that has a whistle as well so just another idea and thanks for this review
Great story about the tree great video about the tools thanks for sharing
Mora makes the field knife with the flint built in the handle! $35 on Amazon! It’s awesome!
The second stop on the Silky is to cut logs that are laying on the ground without ripping skin off your fingers.
You also wrap the handle of thew axe with paracord, so you always have some on hand when you need it
The Harbor Freight one looks almost identical to an ACE store one I bought on the fly for a survival course in Sitka, AK years ago. Didn’t think it would last much past the course but 9 years later and it’s still in my kit. Definitely cuts better than the one in this demo though.
What would be the ideal blade length for a foldable saw? Not for working in a forest just for a bushcrafters.