In my opinion, it's almost impossible to sympathise with the three coworkers, since they're actively trying to gaslight their friend and get him fired, despite his constant grief.
The fact that he could have harmed himself due to grief and questioning his sanity apparently never entered their minds. They all come off as shallow, manipulative creeps.
This movie feels like an episode of American Dad. I can see this happening. The family wants to mess up with Stan and Roger plays death, time, and love. Then everything turns violent in the third act for Stan to learn something he will forget by the next episode.
Now I have to find if they DID do that for a plot of American Dad. I know for sure they did an "homage" to BLADE RUNNER. And how funny is it that Family Guy and American Dad, the latter is the LESS politically preachy of the 2?
I forgot about their review of The Loft! I'll go watch it next. "Four douchbags buy a loft to bang their mistresses." I miss Sarah and her expressions after nonsense films.
Six Academy Award nominees (three of whom are winners) said yes to this script. You'd think Kate Winslet in particular would have learned after she said yes to Movie 43.
@@louisduarte8763 I had to look that shit up to remind myself what it even was, because apparently my subconscious decided that bullshit needed buried deep. Yeah, eveybody on screen had to be there under duress.
My question is; how was this ever greenlit? Now a story about a deeply depressed man getting a visit from the actual aspects of death, time and love, is somewhat good on it´s own. But this (well let´s call it what it is) evil sadistic plan, how anyone thought it was heartwarming escapes me.
Probably through snowball effect - they get one big star, in this case I'd guess Will Smith, and then sell the movie to other stars by saying "Will Smith already said yes to this". That'd be my guess.
I remember watching this film with my friend I remember thinking Will Smith is going to punch Helen Mirren in the face and she didn’t even say anything about his wife being bald
I feel like this movie might have been stronger if we knew from the start that it was really Love, Death and Time speaking to Howard rather than them masquerading as actors only to later reveal themselves as the "characters" they're playing, or just take out the whole subplot of them being actors
It's poetic Will Smith's Oscar journey to get the Best Actor award made was so desperate, and when he wins he goes crazy. I never had any interest in this movie.
I remember my jaw dropping when you and Sarah reviewed this movie on Midnight Screenings because of how misleading the trailers were. Somehow, seeing the actual clips of the movie, it's even worse than you described.
This does clear up some questions I had about the movie. I figured why bother with hiring actors then editing them out when you could just have done it when he was talking to anyone.
I kept forgetting this is an A-list movie. It looks like a TV movie. There are Netflix Christmas movies that look better than this. Then Keira Knightley shows up and I remember what we're watching. I would LOVE to see the pitching of this movie to the actors.
Thanks for covering this, I feel this movie never gets the roasting it deserves. It's rather impressive how the trailers hid the whole gaslighting plot and made it look like just a wacky tale about Will Smith going on a spiritual journey with Helen Mirren. The twist at the end is also one of the most bizarre plot decisions I've ever seen. This is supposed to be the big emotional moment where Will Smith finally decides to move past his grief and embrace someone he thought he'd lost, and instead the focus is 'wait, she was his wife the whole time WHAAAAAAAAT?' Even M.Night Shyamalan never pulled a move like that.
Its like they took 6 plots and put them all together . I can't even imagine a movie so filled with ridiculous plot twist . Its like they said we're going to make your brain explode but it just make it melt.
This movie is about loss, specifically the loss of time and money for anyone who watched this in theaters. If they scrapped the whole hiring actors pretending to be Love, Death, and Time and just have them be them from the get go, it could’ve worked.
The very basic idea has potential, I think, but the execution in this movie is pretty bad. Allegories are a lost art - they were really popular in Europe in 16th, 17th and 18th centuries before becoming replaced by anthropomorphic representations of countries (Columbia, Marianne, Britannia etc) in the 19th century and finally dying out in the 20th century. I like the idea that allegories of various concepts like love, war, peace, fortune, death etc are real people interacting in a modern setting but this movie is just bad.
4:30 Emphasis on "dump". 8:30 Instead of convincing Howard to take an indefinite leave to grieve? Which he should have? 14:19 Are we getting that one next week, as part of "Will Smith Oscar-Bation" Month? 16:41 Before hopping back in Jamie Foxx's cab to his next hit. 18:26 And none of the people around them listen in it? 20:02 Borderline? This IS TOTALLY sociopathic! Oh, hell, they're ad execs, they lie for a living.
I could tell I'm in for a ride when the SNob opens with "Worst Movie Ever!" and on the right side of my screen, Jeremy Jahns looks both bored and dumbfounded in the thumbnail for his review, like he asked "WTF did I just watch?"
I was actually hyped for this movie after seeing the trailer, Then lost all interest when my friend told me the actual plot. Saved myself a cinema ticket.
Since you're on a Will Smith kick, don't forget Seven Pounds where a man kills himself by jellyfish so that his organs can be used to save a girl's life.
Did the director fall over, hit his head, and get brain damage or something? Why on Earth is this movie trying to paint the gaslighter trying to drive a grieving father into insanity to get his company off of him as the good guy??
I’m glad I’ve never seen this movie, definitely seems like a case of Hollywood getting high on its own supply , and autophallating itself 😂, perfect material for a snob review
“Collateral Beauty” looks like one of the spoof movies shown before “Tropic Thunder”
In my opinion, it's almost impossible to sympathise with the three coworkers, since they're actively trying to gaslight their friend and get him fired, despite his constant grief.
Like irl. 😂
Gaslight
Legit makes you wary of whoever wrote this, that is not a good person behaviour
The fact that he could have harmed himself due to grief and questioning his sanity apparently never entered their minds. They all come off as shallow, manipulative creeps.
@@hew2356 You guys all seriously need to clock out for a while.
I remember you talking about this during your worst films of 2016 😂 this is should be a good time
If you looked up “Oscar Bait” in the dictionary, this movie would have a whole thesaurus lol
And like a lot of blantant Oscar bait movies it was terrible , hard to watch and came off as a spoof film in some parts
I still think that goes to "Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close". It works in the Holocaust, 9/11, and a kid with autism.
Brad’s opening line had me in stitches, I’m posting this before I’ve even watched the video. 😂
This movie feels like an episode of American Dad. I can see this happening. The family wants to mess up with Stan and Roger plays death, time, and love. Then everything turns violent in the third act for Stan to learn something he will forget by the next episode.
Now I have to find if they DID do that for a plot of American Dad. I know for sure they did an "homage" to BLADE RUNNER.
And how funny is it that Family Guy and American Dad, the latter is the LESS politically preachy of the 2?
@louisduarte8763 Me too. They probably did parody this movie. I haven't watched much of the TBS episodes of American Dad.
@@BreadHart Yeah, I lost track of that show around 2016, occasionally catching repeats on adult swim.
Probably better than this movie
@@BreadHartSome people reference philosophy, others literature. You went with American Dad
A full length Cinema Snob review on this blatant Oscar Bait flick? Christmas has certainly come three weeks earlier!
Omg not even 10 years since but this is 8 years still warranted.
Part of a quartet of classic Sarah getting mad at a movie midnight screenings, the other three being 50 Shades of Black, The Loft, and Passengers
I forgot about their review of The Loft! I'll go watch it next. "Four douchbags buy a loft to bang their mistresses." I miss Sarah and her expressions after nonsense films.
Oh my god I can't wait for the Loft review
Are we doing Seven Pounds next?
Mad Men references are always great
Another Midnight Screenings legend!
Six Academy Award nominees (three of whom are winners) said yes to this script. You'd think Kate Winslet in particular would have learned after she said yes to Movie 43.
I'm not sure anyone in that movie agreed to act in it WITHOUT blackmail.
Two Academy Award winners said yes to Baby Geniuses 2. Some things just defy understanding
@@louisduarte8763 I had to look that shit up to remind myself what it even was, because apparently my subconscious decided that bullshit needed buried deep. Yeah, eveybody on screen had to be there under duress.
Every single "deep" line in this movie just screams "Give me my oscar now please!"
Who wrote this slop and did anyone actually think this was good?
My question is; how was this ever greenlit? Now a story about a deeply depressed man getting a visit from the actual aspects of death, time and love, is somewhat good on it´s own. But this (well let´s call it what it is) evil sadistic plan, how anyone thought it was heartwarming escapes me.
"I'll just get tickets for Moose Murders" ooooh ~deep cut ~
I've been curious about Moose Murders since I read Frank Rich's review.
Seriously, how do movies like Collateral Beauty get an overqualified cast like this?
Probably through snowball effect - they get one big star, in this case I'd guess Will Smith, and then sell the movie to other stars by saying "Will Smith already said yes to this". That'd be my guess.
@@Dendarangjust like Movie 43
The title for this movie is so weird, I feel like "Domino Effect" would have been more fitting
Kate Winslet is the only reason I watched this
I remember watching this film with my friend I remember thinking Will Smith is going to punch Helen Mirren in the face and she didn’t even say anything about his wife being bald
I feel like this movie might have been stronger if we knew from the start that it was really Love, Death and Time speaking to Howard rather than them masquerading as actors only to later reveal themselves as the "characters" they're playing, or just take out the whole subplot of them being actors
It's poetic Will Smith's Oscar journey to get the Best Actor award made was so desperate, and when he wins he goes crazy. I never had any interest in this movie.
I remember my jaw dropping when you and Sarah reviewed this movie on Midnight Screenings because of how misleading the trailers were. Somehow, seeing the actual clips of the movie, it's even worse than you described.
This remake of Gaslight is really weird
And this review shows why Will Smith’s best movie of 2016 is Suicide Squad.
"What are we? Some kind of Collateral Beauty?"
Very low bar
Well yes, he and and Margot were the bright spots of the movie
Thank goodness he said no to Independence Day Resurgence.
This does clear up some questions I had about the movie. I figured why bother with hiring actors then editing them out when you could just have done it when he was talking to anyone.
I kept forgetting this is an A-list movie. It looks like a TV movie. There are Netflix Christmas movies that look better than this. Then Keira Knightley shows up and I remember what we're watching. I would LOVE to see the pitching of this movie to the actors.
I'm sure there's a pitch meeting episode about it now.
Oh, so basically the movie is just Bowfinger but its makes no sense why they went such the effort to gaslight the lead actor
Aww this reminds me of Sarah since she was part of the midnight screening for it.
Was she his ex?
Why would you bring HER up?
I hope she's well. Sarah was always charming in Midnight Screenings.
In the words of the Rock, "Finally"!
never even heard pf this steaming pile of fun... thanks CS,
Thanks for covering this, I feel this movie never gets the roasting it deserves. It's rather impressive how the trailers hid the whole gaslighting plot and made it look like just a wacky tale about Will Smith going on a spiritual journey with Helen Mirren.
The twist at the end is also one of the most bizarre plot decisions I've ever seen. This is supposed to be the big emotional moment where Will Smith finally decides to move past his grief and embrace someone he thought he'd lost, and instead the focus is 'wait, she was his wife the whole time WHAAAAAAAAT?' Even M.Night Shyamalan never pulled a move like that.
Sudden Bea Arthur commercial! It’s a Christmas miracle! ^__^
whoooo! the other one I've been waiting for!
7:00 it’s jokes like this that are the reason I love the channel.
Loving all the vintage Canadian Christmas ads of late. Hits right in the nostalgia.
I was waiting for that review ever since the Midnight Screenings of it!
This movie is the most baffling waste of talent I’ve seen since Stephen King’s Dreamcatcher.
"His kid died" that line delivery by Winslet was terrible. Its like she walked into an acting class after running to catch the bus.
Its like they took 6 plots and put them all together . I can't even imagine a movie so filled with ridiculous plot twist . Its like they said we're going to make your brain explode but it just make it melt.
This movie is about loss, specifically the loss of time and money for anyone who watched this in theaters. If they scrapped the whole hiring actors pretending to be Love, Death, and Time and just have them be them from the get go, it could’ve worked.
Was their plan to send will smith to an insane asylum? Is this why he slapped Chris Rock?
Winter's Tale, Collateral Beauty--I hope you've found the most bat-shit insane holiday movies to review this month.
This is one of those films where you wonder how no one asked ‘are we really making this?’
As a Canadian, it's kinda weird seeing Brad feature a Bell ad. And a Shopper's Drug Mart ad. Are they even in the States?
it did expand into Florida in the 70s, but I'm guessing Bea Arthur was used in the ads for a long time due to her appeal in Golden Girls
Bell existed for decades until the US government forced them to break up their assets.
Wood Rocket spoof name: Collateral Booty
This film would have been great if produced by A24 and written by Neil Gaiman.
Gotta admit I didn't see this review coming.
The very basic idea has potential, I think, but the execution in this movie is pretty bad. Allegories are a lost art - they were really popular in Europe in 16th, 17th and 18th centuries before becoming replaced by anthropomorphic representations of countries (Columbia, Marianne, Britannia etc) in the 19th century and finally dying out in the 20th century. I like the idea that allegories of various concepts like love, war, peace, fortune, death etc are real people interacting in a modern setting but this movie is just bad.
Please tell me you're gonna review Geostorm!
Domino rally is such a deep cut, thanks for the commercial memory
Follow up: could yall get mouse trap to ever work as intended?
7:18 she’s how old exactly and saying that but also cause he’s a philanthropist? What?
Was Collateral Beauty marketed as a Christmas movie? I don't remember that angle in the adverts.
1:58 i miss the old theme
But this ones good
The old theme is classic. But I'm glad there's a theme at all.
5:38 AAAAAHHHH AUNT LYDIA
Symbolically, aren't "death" & "time" sort of the same thing?
4:30 Emphasis on "dump". 8:30 Instead of convincing Howard to take an indefinite leave to grieve? Which he should have?
14:19 Are we getting that one next week, as part of "Will Smith Oscar-Bation" Month? 16:41 Before hopping back in Jamie Foxx's cab to his next hit. 18:26 And none of the people around them listen in it?
20:02 Borderline? This IS TOTALLY sociopathic! Oh, hell, they're ad execs, they lie for a living.
This movie is the equivalent of Terrence Howard talking about math.
"Yeah, it turns out D*ath is an elderly white woman..." Perfect delivery.
My parents think this movie is really beautiful and deep.
Worst Touched By An Angel episode ever
God, the 2010's really weren't nice to Will Smith, were they?
Well, Men in Black 3 was good.
I got nothing else though.
I could tell I'm in for a ride when the SNob opens with "Worst Movie Ever!" and on the right side of my screen, Jeremy Jahns looks both bored and dumbfounded in the thumbnail for his review, like he asked "WTF did I just watch?"
I have never heard of this movie and I’m old
Wait so they just get away with it this insane stunt they just get away scott free.....wat a movie
If I wanted to see angels lie, I'd put on Hazbin Hotel.
At least THOSE angels can sing decently.
Lol, I've never even heard of this movie.
This is like one of the worst movies I ever seen put on screen. And horrible Oscar bait is being too generous.
Thank goodness I never watched it😂😂😂😂
Try telling someone who has lost a child in real life to look for the “collateral beauty” in it. That person would rightfully punch you in the face.
Is this the Will Smithmas countdown?
I was actually hyped for this movie after seeing the trailer,
Then lost all interest when my friend told me the actual plot.
Saved myself a cinema ticket.
This ain’t collateral beauty, it’s crazy gaslighting beauty 😂.
Sounds like the premise to a psychological thriller.
22:25 😂
One of the worst films of 2016.
Collateral Damage!
Wow. This movie made my brain hurt and made me tired as well. Love the review tho, thanks Snob.
If there is one reason to hate Edward. R. Norton for appearing in this film, it's because Edward R. Norton appeared in this this film. Mirren too.
Since you're on a Will Smith kick, don't forget Seven Pounds where a man kills himself by jellyfish so that his organs can be used to save a girl's life.
There’s a fine line between stupid and clever.
Did the director fall over, hit his head, and get brain damage or something? Why on Earth is this movie trying to paint the gaslighter trying to drive a grieving father into insanity to get his company off of him as the good guy??
Why are movies like these always, ALWAYS, about divorce, cheating, and children?
4:52 and these are supposed to be charaters be like?
Even with the all star cast, this is the kind of movie I tend to avoid.
I’m glad I’ve never seen this movie, definitely seems like a case of Hollywood getting high on its own supply , and autophallating itself 😂, perfect material for a snob review
Blue sky and threads lol
How could anyone make a movie about "Loss", and not include the misscarriage scene?
I don't know which film is worse. This or Seven Pounds. Then again, there is no wrong answer.
That jellyfish though.
@patrickkelmer6290 Like I said. There's no wrong answer. But yes, that FUCKING jellyfish.
Stop it, Seven Pounds is great
@@ninjanibba4259 if you like glorifying suicide.
This movie's trailer has to be the worst ever in history
I’m very distracted that Bea Arthur was in a Shopper’s Christmas Commercial.
She was in a ton of them, actually. An entire series of ads for Shopper's Drug Mart featured her in the late 80s - early 90s.
Where the hell are you digging up Canadian drug store chain commercials from 1990?
This one won the poll? Really?
I wish I could say I missed the days when people really went for these bourgeois holiday Oscar bait movies....but I'd be lying.😒
Honestly this movie does have a good premise and twists but too bad the execution sucks.
Surprise Americans know what Bell is 19:07
Used to exist in the States until it was broken up into AT&T and Verizon.
Umm... You do know that tampering with one of those blue mailboxes is a federal crime, right? Those three nosey greedy fools are real idiots!
Yet another film i see on the worst of the years list
True😂
This is like a Paul Haggis movie made 10 years after Hollywood completely lost interest in Paul Haggis.
Who?
Kind of impossible to care about these characters.
The PI would be destroying her entire business over these stupid shenanigans, not to mention the rest of this ridiculous plot.