Ender 3 build surface comparison: Stock vs glass vs Easy Peelzy magnetic sheet

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  • Upgrading your build surface is easy and relatively inexpensive Here I present two aftermarket options: tempered glass and Easy Peelzy removable magnetic surface.
    In this video I test out both and make a fair comparison between them with the standard fake Buildtak sheet.
    I will be giving away an XL Easy Peelzy sheet to one of my Patrons at the start of next month!
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  • @forevertheuni
    @forevertheuni 5 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Your videos are by far the most helpful on the internet. It doesn't have any unnecessary stuff, and all the usefull stuff! thank you!

  • @paul.hesketh
    @paul.hesketh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Michael, just did this test myself this week after receiving the Creality PEI glass. Really enjoy your videos with printing and other general making. I share a lot of similar interests with you, so it's refreshing to see a well ran channel with great content!

  • @bobbykeyz1263
    @bobbykeyz1263 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much Michael for this review on different build surfaces. I just ordered an ender myself but I have 2 Anet's I think I might try the Easypeelzy on one of them. I'm printing on a Vetex Builtak stuck on glass for leveling and it's been working pretty well. I imagine you can stick the Easypeelzy on the class too.

  • @klschofield71
    @klschofield71 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thorough and straightforward. I converted my Ender's bed to a magnetic bed similar to the Prusa MK3 for about the same price as the Peelzy, but I have the advantage of being able to print ABS.

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like a good solution.

  • @blue_beepblue_beep6358
    @blue_beepblue_beep6358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had lots of problems with my Ender 6's warped bed. Another you-tuber suggested a mirror for the bed as these are always flat to keep the image from warping. This works. They were ridiculously cheep and made to measure from a local glazier, I bought 3 so I can be printing while removing prints and cleaning.

  • @carbide1968
    @carbide1968 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video TT. I love that you do alot with the ender3

  • @TheGbow0704
    @TheGbow0704 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the information, I've been considering getting a new surface and this info helps me decide ... Thanks

  • @cmtravis13
    @cmtravis13 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Michael, great video. For my Ender 3 I am using a Polypropylene Build Plate from Mamorubot. Bought it from Tiny Machines 3D. I really like it, and they sell it all ready sized for the Ender 3. It is used similar to glass where you attach it with binder clips, but do not need any tape, glue, etc. The surface grips the print and when cooled releases. It is pretty awesome. Oh, also I love those timelapse videos, I'm trying to get my settings on my Octopi to get that same smooth timelapse.

  • @LOCOsnakeBITES
    @LOCOsnakeBITES 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have the official creality glass bed and it’s so great. If I wake up to a print that’s been done for awhile, it just comes right off!

    • @tgriffin91
      @tgriffin91 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you put anything on the glass before printing? I've seen people talking about PVA glue or hairspray O_O

    • @LOCOsnakeBITES
      @LOCOsnakeBITES 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tgriffin91 for pla, no. But for petg I flip it for the smooth side and use cheap hairspray

    • @tgriffin91
      @tgriffin91 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LOCOsnakeBITES awesome thank you 👍 I'm finding unless I have a raft, getting the print off the glass is tough 😅 I'm using PLA

    • @LOCOsnakeBITES
      @LOCOsnakeBITES 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tgriffin91 you maybe just be printing too close to the bed. That's an issue as well

  • @RichterScaleStudios
    @RichterScaleStudios 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the Anycubic Ultrabase Mega and a CR-10S (AC Keenovo SilconeHeater) both with Utrabase build surfaces; they both hold like a vise until the temp drops. I upgraded to the Creality version on my Ender 3. It does not hold as well, PLA curls at the corners with 3 different filaments I tested. I have started using a 5-8 outline skirt outlines in Simplify3D; much better results. Looking forward to the new removable buid plate and the just released magnetic system too.

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing, great info.

  • @The_Curious_Cat
    @The_Curious_Cat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have all three surfaces, my Ender 3 came with the rough base plus a glass, never had to use the glass (I print mostly PLA). But the rough plate is a bit hard to snap things off and after awhile of using the scrapper to get the prints off and the brim around the print, the surfaces pretty much lost the roughness and the prints started to not stick...
    So I bought one of those magnetic beds that were made for Ender 3 (they are really good, even came with a small extension in one side to be easier to remove), and i have to say, best upgrade ever! Way easier to remove the prints, any excess material that is stuck/glued to the surface i don´t have to use the scrapper, so the surface remains pretty much the same for much longer then a regular bed.
    I recommend getting it 100%, it will make your printing life much easier.

    • @Ziplock9000
      @Ziplock9000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I recommend against it. I have the official magnetic bed on E3Pro and the top layer split when removing a small print only after having it for just over 2 weeks. I'm looking to go glass.

    • @phenomta4236
      @phenomta4236 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ziplock9000 have you decided on anything? I ordered a glass bed with my e3pro because I had heard about the issue you had. I have yet to receive it but after watching some videos the glass bed can sacrifice quality. looking forward to testing out both when i receive it, maybe i'll just use the official one until it fails...

    • @Ziplock9000
      @Ziplock9000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@phenomta4236 The official glass bed arrived 2 days ago, but I've not tried it yet. Yes it can introduce ringing due to the extra mass. But you can slow the print speed down. Most people think it's a worthwhile sacrifice. I may end up using both.

  • @wjohnsaunders
    @wjohnsaunders 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I was able to restore my Ender 3 heated bed back to being straight enough for the stock build surface to work nicely. I bent it little by little, using a straight edge to check my progress. Bend a little on the X-axis, then a little on the Y-axis, check with straight edge and repeat. I don't know if heat cycling will warp it again though.

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That is a good effort. I know I would butcher that if I tried it.

  • @spikekent
    @spikekent 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comparison Michael. I use the stock glass bed on the CR-10 and BCN3D Sigma with Magigoo wich works perfectly. Magigoo does look a bit expensive compared to other bed adhesives like glue stick. But each application will last for many prints. I may still try a removeable bed at some point though.

  • @carbide1968
    @carbide1968 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have all 3 of them because it's such a important part of the process. The factory one is pretty darn good and i am using the creality glass now and like it alot. The easy pealzy i have not used yet but i have a homemade magnetic base i made and like it alot also. With all that said imo i like glass and magnetic but the factory is darn good and cheap to replace.

  • @remic2196
    @remic2196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I went next level. Put glas from a picture frame in between the bed and the creality easy prealsy surface.
    The magnet is strong enough to keep it in place and the glass makes surface more level

  • @PaulLemars01
    @PaulLemars01 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Hi Michael, you missed possibly the cheapest/best one. I use 3mm picture frame glass on my E3. In fact I have two pieces that are exactly 235mm squares. They cost me the price of two thrift store picture frames ($2 each) and a $3 glass cutter to cut them down. Yes, I use Aquanet but my process is to clean the glass off from time to time and then lightly spray Aquanet over them while I hold them over the sink. Yes, the glass is fragile but if you can wash up a drinking glass I think you'll survive. The benefit of using this type of glass is that it heats up and cools down very quickly because it's 3mm . The surface is great to print on and prints fall off as soon as it cools down. Because I have two of them I mount and demount them as soon as the print is finished. Another benefit is that because I remove the glass with the print attached I don't disturb the level of the printer. I haven't had to level my E3 in over a month and I don't see any reason to fit auto level. Picture frame glass and hairspray, go figure.......

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That is very similar to the setup I used on my Solidoodle 2 for many years. I purchased cheap offcuts from a local framing shop. My trouble was the small 150 x 150mm bed made it hard to clip the glass on. On the Ender 3 that's not really an issue.

    • @embewewe
      @embewewe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I use a 3mm glass plate - just ordinary soda-lime "window" glass. I had to adjust the height of my Z-switch to achieve bed-levelling and add 10°C to bed temperature (eg 70°C) to compensate for heat dissipation. Allow a little time for bed to heat up and - check with laser thermometer for 60° in the middle of the bed and one or two degrees less at the sides. For adhesion I use a solution of table salt as described here - www.uantwerpen.be/images/uantwerpen/container11343/files/bonding_pla_with_salt_water_v20160713.pdf This works really well. My models stick perfectly and just pop off the plate when cool. No more glue or hairspray !

    • @FollowNdFeel
      @FollowNdFeel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Boroscilicate glass isn't that expensive and it'll withstand the constant rise and fall in temperature. I have a sheet lying next to me for when I want to switch to another filament.

    • @Bmarquez1997
      @Bmarquez1997 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glad you mentioned it was 3mm glass! I got a piece of picture frame glass that was closer to 1.5mm, and within 20 hours of printing it shattered... Got a 3mm one and it's been working great for over 500 hours!

    • @funnyfisher7
      @funnyfisher7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Huh, good note, thanks! :thinking emoji:

  • @digivolt
    @digivolt 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started off with tempered glass on thermal pads until I dropped it while cleaning and shattered it, it was great once dialed in but did need hairspray for PET-G. For the substitute I went with the Ultrabase style glass and found it a pleasure, not sure how it will perform longer term but 2 months in and it hasn't shown any signs of degrading and it teaches good practice by waiting for the print to cool, definitely a cheaper option than glass and possibly cheaper than easy peelsy too

  • @amadensor
    @amadensor ปีที่แล้ว

    I used an airbrush and put a light coat of tempra paint on my glass bed. Things stuck nice, and it can easily be refreshed by rinsing and spraying again.

  • @carlpetersen3128
    @carlpetersen3128 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Might add which surface leaves the best finish on the printed part. That would help with the decision on which to use.

  • @kylestyer8240
    @kylestyer8240 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just bought ender 3 with glass bad too, ty for your vids!

  • @bossdj02
    @bossdj02 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome review! very informative!

  • @MrStringybark
    @MrStringybark 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review, Thanks. I have an Easy-Peelzy I bought over a year ago but haven't used it yet. Reason being, it has to be stuck to the heated bed and the thought of having to remove it if I don't like it or any other reason completely puts me off installing it.

  • @erjunt
    @erjunt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I will keep my standard which is removable and works pretty fine I think(with some tape and glue ^^). Thank you for the video. Your videos are very instructive and very easy to understand. Keep it up bro ^^

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, buddy, appreciate it :)

  • @davethepak
    @davethepak 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video.

  • @MisterEffedieffe
    @MisterEffedieffe 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have not tried Easy Peelzy but since I went to the glass the quality of my prints has improved significantly also because the vanilla bed was not perfectly straight. And for adherence I recommend an hairspray it's very effective and economical.

  • @korona3103
    @korona3103 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found my stock Ender 3 surface became warped over time from taking it off and flexing it to release prints. The local glazing shop cut an offcut of regular window glass for me and rounded off the edges for a few quid. It's really flat and has good thermal properties. Add some hairspray and it works great.

    • @Ziplock9000
      @Ziplock9000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've just had this with my 2/5 week old Ender 3 Pro. The top is so worn out it's torn :/ However normal glass does not have the same thermal and other properties as Borosilicate glass

  • @ggslv58gng57
    @ggslv58gng57 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the stock Ender 3 magnetic build surface is very convenient but over time i have pieces of the build plate breaking off with the print ....mainly near the middle of the surface ( it was shipped FOLDED) and could be a contributing factor

  • @jesterino
    @jesterino 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I applied on the original bed on 2 Ender3 the Original Prusa PEI Sheet for 7 euros and it work great

  • @nalissolus9213
    @nalissolus9213 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey tnx for the video! Delivered as promised.

    • @nalissolus9213
      @nalissolus9213 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Never thought about using a heat pad, interesting.
      You can also use fiberglass to get a flexy plate, not sure how good it is though.

  • @dbbyres
    @dbbyres 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mike great video, very informative, thumbs up! I have an Ender 3 with only add ons being a coated glass build plate and metal replacement for the stock plastic feed mechanism. Over 18+ months of ownership the printer has worked perfectly. I see lots of ppl printing add ons that are supposed to improve performance, but I'm dubious. Would you do a video about which Ender 3 add ons really improve results. Also, what periodic maintenance do you do?

  • @3dgussner958
    @3dgussner958 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Congrats to 10k subscribers

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks very much. Goal for the first year was 1K, everything has gone very well.

    • @3dgussner958
      @3dgussner958 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TeachingTech Great and professional content convinced lot of people, so well done! I can see why your channel is that successful as you are teaching as day job. Again congratulations and looking forward for more awesome content.

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks again. Ive certainly put in some hours so I'm pleased with the results. My planned video list is long, including what I hope is some really original and interesting content.

    • @pdjames1729
      @pdjames1729 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The posh timelapses are killing it too! :nD I never noticed the audio being poor but I'm watching on a netbook, not audiophile gear. Your video's are often teh' most succinct on any given subject, whilst retaining meticulous detail when it's an advantage. I ordered my #GameChanger Ender3, it's on it's way. Thank you for all of your help with it - RJ

  • @patsjoholm
    @patsjoholm 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Found your vids while starting my search for a 3D printer for quad/drone parts. Thanks for taking the time, subbed. Which build surface did you end up leaving on your Ender 3? Looks like glass is the way to go, if you're not in a hurry for your prints and have patience to wait for the bed to warm up.

  • @utki17
    @utki17 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best videos on the internet

  • @demonvalentine1
    @demonvalentine1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I completely agree, I love the factory bed that came on my Ender 5 Pro. I mainly print petg and occasional PLA, so it works out beautifully for me. Great video, do you have any thoughts on PEI build surfaces at all, I have been thinking about trying one.

  • @-Gunnarsson-
    @-Gunnarsson- 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used fine alcohol to clean my ultrabase a few times. Dried it out and is no longer easy to remove prints. But it sticks even better.

  • @firefoxik75
    @firefoxik75 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got my Ender3 with removable flexi bed. Can't complain yet... Had glass bed before on my other printer, but removing prints was pain, broke good few glass beds. Now I am happy with this flexi one, just remove, bend slightly and the print pops out...

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The one on my Pro is also working quite well.

  • @lemonizer7000
    @lemonizer7000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had a piece of mirrored glass cut at a local glass shop for $7. Had to adjust the z-index sensor slightly to allow for the thickness (glass was 4mm). The glass works great for PLA and PETG. I use a brim for thin parts. No glue or spray. For PLA I set the bed temp to 65.
    The stock bed material was terrible. Wasted a lot of time with it. It peeled up in the corners and wasn't flat.My 2 cents worth would be to get the glass right away.

  • @lucrems1199
    @lucrems1199 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've got the Ender 3 produced in august 2018. It came indeed with a separate bed mat which is attached to the bedsurface with 4 clips and is fairly flat. Nothing sticks hard to it. Once my PLA print is ready I use the spatula, light push it and it pops of the mat. I have no issues at all with my prints and the stock mat.

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is the perfect scenario. I'm really glad they have improved. Is your bed flat?

    • @lucrems1199
      @lucrems1199 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TeachingTech Not entirely. It bends down a little towards the middle. But the removable mat is a plus. The way I do it is during bed leveling I make the nozzle scratch a bit more than gentle on an underlying paper in all four corners so it is about correct in the middle. This way I can get any object printed correctly, small of medium size.

  • @AntiMaxer
    @AntiMaxer ปีที่แล้ว

    FYI: everytime ive pushed hard or slightly hard ive had to re level the bed slightly just a heads up (with the ender 3) if you have the removable aio pad then you wont have to worry the older one with the glue scraping would be the concern

  • @sevbait
    @sevbait 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been using the stock removable style bed for almost a month now, and it has developed de-lamination bubbles under a few areas not far from the center. It’s causing thinner than intended extrusion in those areas. Have you run into this? I’m considering hitting Creality up for a replacement, but also buying one of their glass beds for improved flatness (some dishing from perimeter to center, but works ok)

  • @nordinvandenbulk6882
    @nordinvandenbulk6882 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I guess i got a different ender 3 then haha, since my “standard” metal bed is lose and and can be attached with clips. Als i orderd the version with the glass bed, but havent’t used it so far as the standard works really well for me since i can bent it somewhat to get the prints off easily.

  • @mavamaarten
    @mavamaarten 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On my Ender 3 the stock bed was so warped I could only use a very small area of the build plate at a time. I went to a local glass store and bought a 3mm sheet of glass. I sanded the edges and apply a tiny bit of glue spray to the bed. This gives it a matte finish which does not stick when cold but sticks pretty well when heated up. Cost me $6 and the bottom layer is always perfectly flat and shiny.

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great solution.

    • @PabloJaramilloM
      @PabloJaramilloM 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Mavamaarten, may I ask what kind of glue spray did you use? Thank you!

  • @scootroter4859
    @scootroter4859 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I went with PEI on my Ender2 and it works flawlessly! Sticks really good, but as soon as the bed heater turns off and it just starts to cool down, it comes off like it was never stuck... So simple! ... Unlike my new Ender3... Damn, stuff sticks so good I have to pry it as hard as I can, use the sharp and sometimes scary scraper, and even then it barely releases. I hope it gets easier the more I print with it, or I'll be going with PEI again, because that's a perfect 10!😎🤘 Thanks for the review! 👍

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think I've decided PEI is my favourite too.

    • @scootroter4859
      @scootroter4859 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TeachingTech VeRy Co0ol! 🤘

  • @thesimbon
    @thesimbon 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If bed is warped, it may help to use 3 clips to hold the glass bed (2 in the back and one in front) so the glass isn't forced to follow the warped shape of the bed

  • @danfraser5626
    @danfraser5626 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you considered doing a video on the best magnetic build surface?

  • @garylarson6386
    @garylarson6386 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the easy peal, some of the time after forcing the part off the glass or tape I would need tp relevel

  • @porterfielddynamics
    @porterfielddynamics 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Michael, huge fan of your videos, you’ve become my go to for Ender 3 tutorials. I have a couple of questions for you if you wouldn’t mind helping a fellow maker out :).
    Firstly, did you have any issues with the Easy Peelzy and inductive ABL? I remember reading that there could be some interference due to the magnetism, and I’m wondering if this is something I should look out for, as I plan on using an inductive sensor for my Ender 3, and would also like to get a new surface (namely the easy peelzy) while I’m at it.
    Second, sort of piggybacking of the original question, could you do a video on a more affordable method of installing ABL on your Ender 3? I’ve seen maybe two coherent tutorials involving DIY methods and even those are lacking. Perhaps you could try the method on the blog “Let’s Print 3D” and let us know how it goes, as so far the BLTouch and EZABL system are around 60 bucks each, which is a little pricey for such an upgrade in my opinion.
    Thanks for your time, continue making great vids! You’ve earned a sub!

  • @compunerd
    @compunerd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I just wish my printer would have just came with a flat bed... seems silly.

    • @1objection
      @1objection 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They should really make glass the standard instead of the magnetic sheet.
      I'd be willing to pay a bit extra to not have to go through the headache of trying to level my bed as a beginner, only to realize that my bed is warped.

    • @b-rad7708
      @b-rad7708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@1objection sounds like a bl touch could be your bf yall should link up

    • @b-rad7708
      @b-rad7708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      on a second note they do offer the ender 3 with a glass bed upgrade from the fac.

    • @1objection
      @1objection 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@b-rad7708 I'm familiar with the process of leveling, I just hadn't realized my bed was warped. Doing it by hand is easy when your surface is actually flat.

    • @shaark_1396
      @shaark_1396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ikr

  • @jellezwart9155
    @jellezwart9155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey man, great video. I was wondering if the easy peel magnetic sticker is a solution to my scratched bed....?

  • @hasserecht3678
    @hasserecht3678 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a warped bed so i just bought the Creality3D Ultrabase to compensate the bowl. Guess what... the Creality3D Ultrabase was warped as well. Hat to put tape between bed and Ultrabase and clamp it down pretty hard on the edges to get it somewhat straight.
    I think the adhesion of the BuildTek is better. Even with 70 degrees Celsius i get warping and sometimes small parts get knocked off.

    • @megazoid
      @megazoid 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just wanted to say thanks for the tape idea! I had a warped bed from day one. Tried the Creality3D glass and it improved the center dip a bit, but it got worse over time. Glass is weird in that it's a solid (mostly) but is also a liquid (all be it incredibly slow moving). I think the glass had basically taken the shape of the warped bed. I tired a couple of layers of blue painters tape under the glass, and it seems good again. One small circle, covered by one bigger circle.
      I suppose I could have spent hours leveling the bed plate with wet & dry sandpaper, or printed a wedge thing from Thingiverse, but your tape idea took 5 minutes hehe. Cheers.

  • @drewd423
    @drewd423 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I assume if your bed is warped slightly your only choice is the glass right?

  • @jeannordstrm3935
    @jeannordstrm3935 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love my glass surfes i got with my ender 3 v2

  • @RamiBaik
    @RamiBaik 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi ,
    could you please tell me which slicer you use , am using Cura but unfortunately could not get the perfect settings
    thanks in advance

  • @RikkTheGaijin
    @RikkTheGaijin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On my Ender 3 I can print PLA, flexible TPU, and wood filament perfectly with the default surface. But I cannot print Nylon on it, it won't stick. For now I'm using 3M Blue Painters Tape and it works well with Nylon, but I'm waiting on a PEI sheet, I'll try that too.

  • @sacbeaguilar
    @sacbeaguilar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did you manage to do that amazing timelapse?

  • @gopnikspace4795
    @gopnikspace4795 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn’t do the glue method on my stock plate and ended up with a stuck print after maybe 10 prints but no worries I’m buying a glass plate since I have a small hole in my original surface from trying to get a stuck print off

  • @ajax2061
    @ajax2061 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    got the easy stuff already but made a mistake and ordered 200mm version though since i mainly use it for dnd minis it fine, Very easy too get prints off but dont make my mistake and try getting the nozzle close while hot from petg as melted a a s;all pit in the bed still works though

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, good point. Like real Builtak it doesn't like a hot nozzle at all.

  • @petetbates8111
    @petetbates8111 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought the Ender 3 glass from Amazon, fits perfectly but just got to dial the height in correctly. My bed was bowed in the middle . I might try removing the aluminium bed and flattening it at work .

  • @tomgray7049
    @tomgray7049 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you

  • @ricks3754
    @ricks3754 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use glass and to stick the material I recommend sugar and water 50/50. Works perfect.

  • @VictorVoon_VicVoon
    @VictorVoon_VicVoon 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi thanks for the video. I would like to know after the bed cools down, will the Creality Cmagnet still hold on the print? thanks

  • @PabloJaramilloM
    @PabloJaramilloM 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Michael, I have a question for you regarding the Anycubic Ultrabase... I am thinking if it's a good idea to get it and found your video of the base on the Cocoon printer and you didn't seem to like it, but in this video it seems everything went well... Was it something wrong with the Cocoon printer? or was it the settings?...

  • @kensmapleleafretirement
    @kensmapleleafretirement 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder how they compare to sping steel beds... Glass looks like the best option, but the wait time is a factor for me, too impatient... Thanks for showing this comparison, Greetings from the East Coast of Canada... Be well...

  • @housemusic325
    @housemusic325 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, for the latest version of Ender 3. The sticker is not anymore directly on the aluminum bed. You can remove it because it's hold in place with paperclip. You can use glass with similar properties as buildtack by sanding the surface. It stick really well when hot and remove easily when cold. You don't need to use tape. I have never used tape. If you want to use glass without sanding it. Glue do the job well..

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They change it so often it's impossible to keep videos up to date!

    • @housemusic325
      @housemusic325 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TeachingTech this is cool because they listen what customer say. And it give constant upgrade in the design.

  • @patrickmaartense7772
    @patrickmaartense7772 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what i'm missing is the cheap and good IKEA mirror solution, 4 pcs of mirror 30cmx30cm for approx 10 AUD. flat,thinner than the original and works like a champ.
    PLA and PETG works prefect with a bit of hairspray, cold or warm.
    use a glasscutter if you need it smaller (6 AUD or so )
    sometimes the lowtech works well or even better.

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I printed on cheap framing glass for years and years with hairspray. Used to buy all the offcuts from a framing place for a few bucks.

    • @patrickmaartense7772
      @patrickmaartense7772 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes, works the same, I found that mirrors use to be flatter that normal glass, a great bonus for that price ( 4 mirrors in europe for 7 EUR )
      but nothing as good as the OPI3Mk3 :)

    • @t_z1030
      @t_z1030 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much, I have been looking for a cheap source of glass beds and wasn't having any luck at hardware stores. I hadn't thought to look at Ikea

  • @certified-forklifter
    @certified-forklifter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    pcb ruler link is broken =D cool video thank you

  • @asgerjrgensen1414
    @asgerjrgensen1414 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have had a lot of luck making PETG stick to glass, by sanding the glass using normal sandpaper.
    If you use a finishing sander it is possible to get a uniform look. I just use some handpaper corn 80
    to make a lot of scratches, but I haven't had a loose print since. :-)

    • @nickrowan
      @nickrowan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just be careful printing PETG directly onto untreated bro-silicate glass. Sometimes it can stick a little TOO well damaging the glass.

    • @asgerjrgensen1414
      @asgerjrgensen1414 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've seen the pictures, but newer seen it my self. I think there must have been some errors in that glass.
      I use normal (used) window glass, with no problem so far, but should it happen, then I have a lot of old glass and a glass cutter. ;-)

  • @desiv1170
    @desiv1170 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you also consider a PRO for glass the incredibly smooth surface you get? Or would you say the others are also that smooth? I can definitely tell the difference between glass and masking tape.
    Not a huge deal when the smooth part is just the bottom of something, but for instance if you are printing something that is going to show lettering, you can get that so smooth!

  • @briancreekmore9312
    @briancreekmore9312 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you tried regular annealed glass, window sheet glass? How well does that work?

  • @MrZhefish
    @MrZhefish 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I can't recommend the magnetic surface, as it needs a level heatbed in the first place. I like to use my prusa steel sheet or glass. It gives the best consistancy

    • @jftechdrones
      @jftechdrones 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the price is ridiculous

    • @kerbodynamicx472
      @kerbodynamicx472 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And it now got holes in it

  • @SteinerSE
    @SteinerSE 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't get anything to stick to the textured side of the standard Ender 3 surface, if I turn it over to the glossy side though and use Magigoo it works perfectly :P

  • @markito0317
    @markito0317 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What are the temps and settings you use for the glass bed?

  • @RotaruCosminLeonard
    @RotaruCosminLeonard 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any way I can use swat from magnetic to glass easily?
    Would it be possible to put back the glass over the magnetic sheet on the cr 10 v3?
    I haven't got it yet

  • @stefanwilkens
    @stefanwilkens 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You mention added load of the y-stepper, but does that translate to the print? I would be curious to know if you see more artifacts on the print just by adding that glass mass to the system. Did you try a calibration cube before and after the glass, for example?

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't tested it but on paper it should add to ringing. How much is an interesting question. Some people add glass plus cameras so I think the glass alone might be negligible.

    • @stefanwilkens
      @stefanwilkens 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TeachingTech The overshoot may depend on many things; mass of the glass, movement speed of the bed, flex in the belts.. etc. I'll be honest, I was hoping you had done such a test to find out if it has an effect in the typical printing range (30-60 mm/s?) before I spend money on a thick piece of heavy glass with surface treatment rather than a picture frame. I may do it anyway to find out!
      An ultrabase of these dimensions would be something like 1.2 Kg in weight, that seems pretty significant compared to a camera that weighs roughly 100 grams? (GoPro)

  • @MichaelWoodrum
    @MichaelWoodrum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you make a video showing how you got the time lapse working so well on the ender? I'm using octolapse and cannot figure out the settings to get it to look like it's not moving. Sucks pressing print, waiting hours and trying again.

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This video is definitely coming. In the mean time put it on test mode for something small, then have the octolapse tab open. It gives you a preview of recent frames to see if it's stable.

  • @stefanocolitti6560
    @stefanocolitti6560 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks

  • @richardnjones2008
    @richardnjones2008 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the 3d v2 with a glass bed using PLA but the prints stick like glue to the glass, so I always spend a long time scraping it off and I have chipped the glass. Any suggestions? Thanks, Richard

  • @victor7777
    @victor7777 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm using normal window glass and it works as a charm with masking tape.

  • @ronaldstjohn709
    @ronaldstjohn709 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a ender 3 V2 that came with a glass plate factory I am new to 3D printing and find that it's very hard to remove my prints from the glass after there done. Is there a trick to removing them? I'm only using PLA so far and don't add nothing to the bed before I start printing. Is there a surface that works the best for every type of material? I don't mind spending a little bit more if it's worth it. Thanks and I appreciate the videos.

  • @merrick7784
    @merrick7784 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You mentioned curling on larger ABS prints... were you able to solve that? I am experiencing the same on the textured Glass plate.

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The properties of the material make it hard to overcome. You can try more drastic things like putting an acetone/ABS slurry on the bed first. I generally just use PLA.

  • @arnolduk123
    @arnolduk123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comparision but the standard bed that comes with the ender3 degrades over time losing it's texture which is what the print sticks to. My ender3 standard bed has become very shiney in the middle after 100+ prints and is now useless for printing on.

  • @bobellison2547
    @bobellison2547 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It looks like the Easy Peelzy is stuck on the heat bed with an adhesive. Does doing this preclude the use of glass or the new ender's removable surface? Which surface did you choose as your day-to-day print surface?

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could take the top layer of the Easy Peelzy off and clip the glass onto the bottom. Would make it heat up a bit slower. The Easy Peelzy is staying on, the printe is about to go to a young fella new to 3D printing and I'd prefer him not to use the scraper.
      I would keep it for me too, I have other printers for ABS if I need them.

  • @Sudz3
    @Sudz3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Well... I THOUGHT i had a new printer... But My bed isn't removeable! (unless theres something I am missing)
    It also is slighty warped. (middle of bed is lower than 4 corners)

    • @swagaar3753
      @swagaar3753 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is yours the pro?

    • @Ziplock9000
      @Ziplock9000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You bought the wrong model

  • @marklowe7431
    @marklowe7431 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The original is good, if you flex it carefully and keep it clean, never have any issue. Yet to have a print not stick without any aid.

  • @yahyaayman6151
    @yahyaayman6151 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can a magnetic sheet be used with a 3d printer that has proximity sensor for bed leveling ?

  • @Kek5kopF
    @Kek5kopF 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You did not talk about the best of them all and this is the fake build tak on the flexible glass fiber carrier which you show in the beginning.
    Unfortunately I haven''t seen this anywhere for sale - Creality ships them now with Ender 3s.
    The Creality textured glass bed for the Ender 3 is fine. I really dislike the flexible magnetic beds though. When you have a larger print, it woun't peel off.

  • @Bowtie41
    @Bowtie41 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the Peelzy using the office clips for ABS?Feasible?

  • @kentharris7427
    @kentharris7427 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    On the Ender 3 how long is the magnetic print bed supposed to last? I have been printing for 5 days straight and I cannot get the bed to stick anymore. I tried using blue painters tape on the bed with no effect. I have tried different print bed temperatures and even changed out the filament and cannot get anything to stick anymore. I tried the glass plate and the filament won't stick to that either. I raised the bed temperature to 100 C and it still will not stick.

  • @AndrewD50297045
    @AndrewD50297045 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey man! Just a PSA. I have been using my Eazy Peelzy since July, never had the bed over 50 degrees. I loved it. Very easy to remove prints etc. But lately I was noticing some high spots on my first layer. Turns out the bottom surface of the top piece has bubbles in it now. Super cheap still, but I wouldn't recommend it now, due to longevity.

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I figure regular Buildtak wears out too so this is probably a similar cost to replace.

    • @flower4000
      @flower4000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      i cant get PLA to stick to this stuff at all any tips? i've been leveling for weeks, and I'm pretty sure my squish is perfect, yet part peel off mid way through first layer.

  • @jonahstricklin5476
    @jonahstricklin5476 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much longer will it take to heat up the glass plate?

  • @keithkamps77
    @keithkamps77 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello there, When I ordered my Ender 3 it came with the both the removable build plate and the glass, the stock removable build plate holds the prints great but the Creality glass doesn't hold anything unless I put blue painters tape on it (Haven't tried the hairspray yet).

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hairspray in the past has helped me a lot with glass.

    • @Ziplock9000
      @Ziplock9000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was the glass Ultrabase or just normal glass?

    • @patjohn775
      @patjohn775 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Washable gluestick 👌🏼

    • @npetar037
      @npetar037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@patjohn775 sugar diluted in water is the best

    • @patjohn775
      @patjohn775 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pufna i Ben I’m going to try that

  • @flaminggorilla909
    @flaminggorilla909 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    2:38 tee hee

  • @Mobile_Dom
    @Mobile_Dom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey Michael, any word on when the next episode of the frankendoodle is coming?

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a micro-swiss hot end sitting here for it and I've previously designed a Z end stop holder so it shouldn't be too long.

    • @Mobile_Dom
      @Mobile_Dom 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TeachingTech can't wait

  • @RodrigoAGJ
    @RodrigoAGJ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should do the job, Mica Plates Sheets ??

  • @lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071
    @lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We just use tempered glass for any of our prints. Best most level and durable and it holds heat a lot better and longer.

  • @hoold01
    @hoold01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting, thanks. Question: if I use a glass bed, do I need to raise the z axis end stop?

    • @fernabac
      @fernabac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      On my Ender 5, I didn't need to adjust the z axis end stop. Adjusting the leveling screws did the job. See if that's an option first.

  • @danilo5488
    @danilo5488 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello in video i see extruder laser ??? Fast print stamp ? Can tell me what need do for have this extruder laser as in you video minutes 3.21 see fast stamp

  • @fluoxethine
    @fluoxethine 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    but you didn't review latest Ender surface which comes in detachable form on laminate

  • @h.w.m.306
    @h.w.m.306 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My prints stopped sticking to the glass bed from creality, had to change back to the magnetic one and has never given me any problems

  • @Dan-lz1ix
    @Dan-lz1ix 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My thought is that the standard surface is pretty good. If you have trouble getting parts off of it, just stick it in the freezer for a few minutes after it cools. Parts come off pretty easy after you flex it a few times. However, due to my own misuse in the beginning, mine is starting to show some wear. I can't find one of these online to purchase. Do you know where I can get one? Also, my thinking is that this build surface, combined with a BLTouch is the way to go; then you don't have to worry about an uneven surface.

    • @TeachingTech
      @TeachingTech  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would just order genuine Buildtak. I imagine the Creality store on Aliexpress would be your best bet for a direct replacement. ABL helps a great deal with warped beds.

    • @Dan-lz1ix
      @Dan-lz1ix 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. Actually, I just ordered a BLTouch yesterday, so I plan on installing that. I've already installed a Bootloader and flashed the BIOS, so half the work is already done. I've tried a couple of other build surfaces, and they worked well with sticking, but left a very rough texture that I didn't like. I tried the Creality Tempered Glass, but it kept peeling up on the edges on me, and I'm not happy about pushing all of that weight around on the Z. The latest stock build surface is awesome IMO, but with my warped bed, at times the nozzle thought it was an engraver, so I should get the plate replaced, and I wouldn't mind having a couple as a backup.
      All of that said, I love the Ender 3! Its my first 3D Printer, and I've been printing all kinds of things with it. Once I get auto-leveling installed on it, I'll be printing even more often; as going through the leveling process only to still end up with a jam in the tube gets exhausting. Love your channel and keep up the great work!!!