I Was Promised A Raise But Then They Backtracked! What Should I Do?
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People have said it before, it is easier to negotiate a raise with a new employer than with the current one.
whenever I ask for a promotion or a raise and I don't get it, I give myself one.. through a new job
What a smart person
How often do you do that?
@@kartboarder22g17 unless you own your own business! All positions have a cap! So eventually you won’t be able to job hop
@@reese85 happened couple times in my career in the past 20 years but keep in mind, everyone feels overworked and underpaid. So if you're just lazy and entitled looking for a raise, this won't work for you. But if you work hard and add a lot of value, then you will find a company that is willing to pay for it
@@keokio7 you can only do that but so much, until your position maxes out! Idc how much value you add to the company
An annual raise that is anything 2-3% or under isn't really a "raise". It's just an inflation adjustment.
More like 7-9% just for an inflation adjustment these days
@@gMcizzLeTribes Yes, you're right, I should have mentioned that 2-3% refers to a normal year. This past year has its own rules.
@@gMcizzLeTribes Closer to 10% for an inflation adjustment.
@@joeb1522 This year yes, but that's far from the norm.
No it's not. Inflation is higher than that. Don't believe the CPI number, it does not include the most crucial things like food, rent, and gas.
The only way you get real salary increases is by moving from job to job and then eventually going out on your own.
Thank you! All these jobs and positions have a max income!
Be grateful for a 3% raise? That doesn’t even keep pace with inflation
Neither, you find a new job. You can't negotiate with leadership that doesnt respect you.
Just one mistake and you quit? Dude swallow your pride.
Wrong answer - management lied to you and can never be trusted again. Start looking for a new job, as soon as one is secured, resign from this one and list the retracted raise as the primary reason for leaving.
Right. Even better - give no reason..
that’s not something u wanna put down on a potential new job…
It would be silly to list that as a reason for leaving smh
@@maryeverling8238 He means tell the current employer at the exit interview, Einstein. 🙄
@@genxx2724 I realize this, I still wouldn’t do it!
Look for another job, especially if your profession is at all in-demand. That’s the best way to get a raise right now.
Just one mistake and you quit? Dude swallow your pride.
@@John3.36 bruh its more money
I work in accounting and I see what everyone makes at every company I've worked for and it's so unfair it is sad. If people knew what others made they would all feel gut-punched. It all comes down to you and moving on if they will not give you the number.
this is why people should unionize
No what he really should do is apply for a new place of work…back when i was 21 my mgr told me which always stuck the only real promotion and raise comes from a different company bc at your current one and in their eyes ur only worth what they’re paying you right now
Yep. Learn from Joshua Fluke.
One thing that's happened to me. Is that I threatened to leave and they offered me a raise on the spot.
Well my mistake was staying because later they treated me differently because they had a feeling I would leave eventually. So they had me train someone and made me believe that it was to help my workload. Turns out it was my replacement and I got laid off
And usually a new company would pay you LESS.
@@israelruiz8706 That’s exactly what Joshua Fluke says, as well as another more mature TH-camr who is an executive recruiter. If they offer you a raise when you tell them you’re leaving, it’s an insult because they could have been paying you that before and they didn’t. Or actually they couldn’t; they offer it because it’s only until they replace you. It’s not actually in the budget. Either way, they replace you.
Not even 10 seconds into the video and I agree.
Its time for the caller to jump into a new job. Clearly, the company had wasted Tom's time.
Welcome to how the world works In corporate America. Get your resume up to date and start applying other places.
Being in HR, it’s likely that someone in his department opened their mouth before all approvals were received. They can’t honor it if they don’t have the budget, or if it would cause an internal equity issue.
A work friend of mine recently received a good offer from another company. They countered with an offer that was unapproved and when it came to it they wouldn't do it.She lost out.
@@heidithaw1072 that sounds like something you should be able to sue for
@@socketyellow3 There’s probably nothing in writing.
Internal equity? Is that HR speak for everyone gets a trophy?
@@harrychu650 more like A accidentally gets paid more for doing the exact same thing as B and now B wants a raise or he walks
U find urself new job. If u feel u r not vaulted, leave BEFORE u get bitter. Trust me I went through similar situation, and now I am at my new job and feel so much better.
Wow-I’ve never seen a comments section this unanimous. LOOK FOR A NEW JOB.
Time to start "quiet quitting" and putting out some resumes to competing employers.
Just leave. Whenever they start playing around with your money that’s a sign to quietly quit.
and so the job search would begin
Promises is all I ever got
My company lied to me about a promotion. I have found a new job, even after they gave me a 7% raise
New JOB.
solves the problem.
New JOB will pay less, most likely.
@@amireallythatgrumpy6508 you obviously haven’t been in the work force very long
@@CW-ln7zt I have been in the workplace a while. I just know how backwards America is...
@@CW-ln7zt yes the best way to get a substantial pay raise is to move on .........unfortunately.
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That sounds like it would be the default answer that would be given, regardless if it was true or not.
Anyone who thinks management will admit to a mistake is on drugs! Only the workers make mistakes, not the boss.
Where I work, they gave 10% raises to everyone (pretty much across the board) and made it possible to triple your bonus. They were afraid of losing people to our competition. I think the raises will be less next year, but I'll wait and see. I hope not.
I wonder if the competition is paying as much as 30% more, and those raises were still less than what you'd make elsewhere.
@@Excalibur2 - yes, I think you could get even more if you switch. But then, that makes you the highest paid and newest member of that company. Not a good combination if things slow down. Plus, you have to start from scratch in building relationships, learning the software and file structure of the new company, etc.
NEW JOB BRO!!!!!!
That sandwich 🥪 joke had me dying ☠️😂😂
If you have to ask for a raise then it's time for a new job.
Jobs raises and positions eventually max out! So your goin to hop jobs the rest of your life?
@@reese85 yes
@@reese85 that's what they want you to think.
@@reese85 All of this discussion assumes that you are increasing your skills and credentials over the years. We are not talking about a life-long Target cashier as you referenced elsewhere.
@@MyAirMyles all JOB positions max out eventually! Ain’t enough job hopping in the world that’s goin to keep increasing your pay for the same position
I remember hearing this on the radio yesterday.
Good memory
Apply elsewhere and give yourself a raise.
I don't understand why people don't apply anyway because they don't know the outcome until they talk to other people.
Certainly not a fair situation, and I'm glad Ken was there to give the guy a legitimate answer.
I would think there would be paperwork involved that would clearly state the raise percentage??
This is Ken’s wheelhouse. He seemed more at ease talking about this stuff then with financial stuff.
He was hired to address people’s career issues.
I would start looking for work someplace else
Find a new job. Very simple
That's not always easy for a lot of people. Some people are emotionally attached to their job, they don't like to bounce from job to job, they don't like to apply or give their information all the time, etc. I'd much rather make a little less money if I'm attracted to my job and commute is flexible than to have a higher paying job and not be happy. It's a sacrifice you can make if you are a natural saver.
And get paid even less.
@@front331 I agree if you don't have the skills for the new jobs than switching can be an extra complication!!! I like job hopping but with no new skills it is really challenging to get pay increases!!!
Practice your negotiating skills by trying to get them to agree in writing to the other 3.5% in six months. Still get another job and leave, though.
Sounds like a threat. You don't make threats to employers in NY. They have plenty of people lined up for your job who are even willing to take less.
@@sblijheid Posing it in a manner that could be perceived as a threat would be the opposite of practicing your negotiating skills.
What happens if they cut your pay with no notice?
Answer is the same, find a new job
Bye bye current gig on to the next!
Ken has banned me ? Wonder Y ?
Maybe they ran the numbers afterwards. And they couldn't afford it.
@Jimmy, does NOT matter, but in your world that is probably normal
Sounds like time to leave to me.
Student loan borrowers are also tax payers.
Apply for other jobs and show them the other offers you get, Up to them if they want to pay up, Best way to get a raise is to leave or threaten to
Not always yo! We don’t even kno what he does for a living and how easy it is to fill his position
@@reese85 That’s not his responsibility. His responsibility it to himself and his family: pay increase and career growth. If he limits himself because it’s not easy to find a replacement, he’s being a martyr.
@@genxx2724 what? I’m saying he could be a cashier at target! We don’t kno how easy it is to fill his position to threaten to leave, cuz we don’t kno what he does for a living
@@genxx2724 y’all crazy
@@genxx2724 if it is easy to fill his position then he has less bargaining power. It has nothing to do with "responsibility".
This would have been a much better video clip if Ken asked Dave for a 7% raise on the air. Ken, you missed the best opportunity you ever had to corner Dave. Too late now!
Ik you don't have a good job when you think Iike this lol. That is so unprofessional to ask for a raise on air, who would do that
Short term thinking. Until the camera is off.
@@musicpro7278 sarcasm
@@sashalawrence4786 lowest form of humor…
@@maryeverling8238 Wit, not humour
" you can't make more than the man"- michael scott( the office)
Stick it to the man
i would just leave lol
Start looking for new job
Run
Quit
NOPE - negotiate do it. I don't care you had an initial offer.
Look for a new job
Negotiate for a 5% pay cut, then work 110% and give it your all for the next ten years
10yrs?........lol...
hes not gonna live to be 150....
talking 10 years might as well tell him itll never happen...
its not the 70s/80s anymore
@@kazzTrismus Yeah but if he needs new skills and can't get them fast 10 years can fly bye and he may be in the same position!!!
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