Batman Arkham Asylum Makes No Sense? Sure.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ค. 2024
- CBR has returned with another take on a beloved video game. As someone who has had his own hot takes that have annoyed people, I thought I'd take a look at their recent article, Batman: 20 Things That Make No Sense About Arkham Asylum. Batman Arkham has been in the news a lot recently, as it was looking like WB Games Montreal was gearing up to bring a new game (rumored to be Batman Arkham Legacy) to the Video Game Awards. When that didn't happen, many fans were not happy, while others maintained hope that a sequel would be discussed in the future. So, there are a lot of videos about Batman, and a lot of hot takes on the mythology. That's why I did want to throw my own hat in the ring. #BatmanArkham #CBR #DCcomics
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I mean Ivy is wearing a Arkham Jacket
Maybe it's just branded Arkham casual wear? Sorry I've decided to start writing for CBR.
@@DegenerateJay and for the last on e the reason they don't escape because if they do they know Batman will come and arrest them so the reason they stay is to make show batman is dead so no can stop them and like you said the police are not good at there jobs
The Classic Arkham Look: Sharp. Slick. Scary.
@@DegenerateJay Well if they have full control of the asylum, who said they didnt go fetch their personal belongings? The question is "why arent they all wearing their regular clothes they were admitted in". They have control. If its available on the island, they have access to it
Exactly she is wearing a jacket
For the "why doesn't Killer Croc just leave since he's in the sewer" question, I've been under the assumption that his collar would shock him if he got too far away from the island.
Idk why I didn't even think of that. Good point actually since that seems to be a control shock collar.
The only problem with that is I get the feeling that Croc would actually push the issue until the battery died if he actually decided to leave.
There must be some kind of security over the sewers otherwise he'd just endure the shock collar until the battery fails.
That's good. Also with the sewers most likey being closed off tight.
@Chandler Burse yea ur ryt
The only problem with any explanation about why Croc doesn't just use the sewers to escape, is that he ends up using the sewers to escape. His cameo in Arkham City even happens in a sewer. (And out of the collar?? Can't remember.)
My guess is that Croc stays in Arkham (or in its sewer anyway) because he chooses to. I have no reason from the game(s) to believe this, that I can recall, but it's the only answer that makes sense of the information.
CBR: lIt’s on an island you could just swim” have they never heard of Alcatraz?
They've heard of the COD Zombies map...
Oddly enough it's an island Batman and Commissioner Gordon can drive to. . . So it's an island prison/hospital for the criminally insane with a highway leading to it from the mainland. It makes sense that a prison for insane super criminals known for having a revolving door has a convenient roadway to escape on.
Besides I doubt the waters around are not monitored, why would they even think of that escape plan.
because fuck hypothermia
I'm pretty sure Gotham bay has sharks, so only superpowered villains are going across the water.
They tend to forget that Harley worked at Arkham and knows the layout as well as the Joker.
Fenris30 even better probably because she had access to a lot while joker was prisoner in 1 room and didn’t have time to check everytime he was escaping from Arkham asylum.
In the Arkham universe Harley worked on blackgate
She worked at Blackgate and then got a job at Arkham. Because In the Interview Tapes for Harley she is talking to Joker when she is still a doctor.
@@dazz1903 oh yh true😂
Technically in the comics and other universes she works at Blackgate but in the Arkham universe she works at Arkham Asylum. Sry I’m a nerd🤓. 😂
CBR: How does Superman fly? It doesn't make sense.
Everyone: Yellow Sun
CBR: Then, how can’t we fly?!?
He has anti gravity bubbles
Kryptonian skin cells
CBR: why is everyone in Arkham?
Everyone: blackgate burned down
Amazing what one can do with a simple box of matches
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
Adam Eccles likey story. I bet joker said that just to get his goons to Arkham
(Joke)
Just a real question. If black gate is burned down, if Arkham asylum was destroyed and Arkham city was closed down where do all the prisoners and villains now go.
James Vorster I assume other cities in this universe have max security prisons, so they could be transferred there. The GCPD also has its own mini-prison as seen in Arkham Knight.
@@stuvros1 After Arkham City was closed down they had to let the inmates go, because Dr Strange and Quincy Sharp had violated loads of civil rights and arrested some of the inmates with falsified evidence.
Cbr: why does scarecrow have his toxin???
Jay: (literally answers it)
Cbr: B U T W H Y?????
Your profile pic fits this comment perfectly.
I need an explanation for your profile picture
Leo Lizard i thought it was funny and I chose it now I can’t change it
it's dumber than that because they answered it themselves, they just didn't realise it.
As a biopsychologist specializing in psychopharmachology, it's conceivable he just got access to some drugs on site and developed a makeshift version of his toxin.
Still, perhaps the easiest explanation to this is that Joker literally planned the trap for Batman. It's very likely his plan included providing the necessary materials for Crane to make his toxin.
"Why is there no Batman surveillance?"
You're right CBR, it's not like there's a satellite Batcave built into the island or anything. Maybe he should have done that.
New article: WhY BaTMaN sHoULD NeVEr LEaVe ThE BaTCAvE uNdeR ArKHaM IsLAnd
Right! Bruce has prepared for this sort of thing to happen, and even states so in game
But he does...
TheNeonRedstone that’s the point if this comment
@@DegenerateJay i mean if Arkham was Batman's house it would be a lot harder to escape from
But the taxes on Wayne would be ridiculous
"Why do you keep them all under one roof?"
Do you think they're gonna make like 20 prisons and give every big villain their own prison?
@@kayden3845 well yeah, but stupidly expensive
MTV cribs style baby
@John Wick honestly, at this point, I don't even think they have the money to fly/ship the prisoners anywhere. Like, I'm almost certain the entirety of Gotham is funded with 3 dollars and some pocket lint.
In all seriousness, my guess would probably be something along the lines of both bruce/batman pulling some strings to keep them all close, and something along the lines of there being the risk of them escaping during transport or something? Idk.
lmfao that actually wouldve been a good idea.
There are barely any batman villans in asylum, there's joker, croc, Ivy, etc
Me: *sees the title and thumbnail*
Also Me: *starts beating up the air*
It's treason then.
@@hughjass7777 wrong franchise.
Downward Spiral literally me....
Downward Spiral
same
I think he was a little tipsy
Swim out of the island? Ever heard of the criminals that tried to swim off of Alcatraz? Yep they died because of the freezing water and the violence of the waves. Good luck swimming off arkham island
Name is Mohammed unless your name is killer croc...there is probabily a reason of why he dint but for now it will remain a mystery
el tio lefty croc wanted him some bat balls so no he doesn’t want to leave 😂
I'm pretty sure Gotham bay has sharks too...only villains with powers are going to risk swimming...regular guys will try to take the bridge.
Also weren't there police boats in the distance?
Yu Narukami yeah but that's cause the whole inmate takeover thing. usually I doubt there's a ton of sea traffic around the island
Re Joker starting Titan production in the gardens: the simplest answer is that he didn't. Professor Young did. Joker took it over once he arrived.
Yes. She said it in the game too. In those tape logs, I believe. Game was epic, along with the sequel "Arkham City" was / is one of the best Batman games ever made.
And she did it with full knowledge and cooperation of the Asylum staff - it was a known research project.
Exactly. And it’s not like she might’ve even had to do it all herself, because as we say with Officer BOLES!, he has connections to people on the inside as well as her.
Actually Batman's response to Barbara when she asked him how he got a Batcave on Arkham Island was "It's me. Remember?" He might as well have just said "because I'm Batman."
I’ll have you know that Aaron “One-Hand” Cash is the true hero of the Arkham Series and actually defeated the Joker, Penguin and Poison ivy easily.
And survived killer croc
Lord Protector Haytham Kenway 😂
GIVE ME LEE
him and James goredon are the only trusted police officers
@@KnellMortem I love that line
"Mainstream" gaming sites are awful. They are forced to put out a ton of content every day so a lot of it is just BS they made up so they can fulfill their quota. Their reviews are not trustworthy because they seem to over rate a lot of games in order to stay in developers/publishers good graces so they get more review codes in the future. Developers/Publishers can be very easily offended and will stop sending review codes to reviewers who give low scores to their games on a semi-regular basis. It's not something that should be allowed to happen, but it does and it effects review scores all the time.
Amazing put
Kinda sad when an average joe on TH-cam gives a more in depth critique then the people who are actually paid to critique games.
Nowdays you have to put journalists in quotes, because somehow they manage to have no idea of the medium they're talking about.
All trash and the stupid faced people who feel the need to show their picture at the beginning makes me want to kill someone.
spot on
Next CBR issues with the game:
- How can Batman just return to life after you fail a mission?
- Why does Batman see blue indicators of enemies' attacks?
- How can it all happen in one night even if you play for 20 hours?
Lol
Lol
cause it's a game
Indicators are programmed into the mask,simple
Lack of foresight on WB's part, that's how.
Is an island, they can swim away
Alcatraz escape attempts: Am I a joke to you?
I dont think its that easy lol. They'd probably drown
Plus the only place to swim away on Arkham asylum is a 20 ft drop.
Kinda unrelated but I’ve Been seeing a lot of comments saying that the story in Arkham city was terrible. I honestly don’t understand how anyone can think that.
Andrew Garfield edgy contrarian sort of like how people say Superman is a shut character
Well yeah the story is really bad, its a popular opinion. Every other arkham had better stories.
Wendy'sMarioActionFigure 1 if you ask me Arkham Asylum has the worst story. The Joker escapes and Batman has to catch him. What makes all this silly is because the Joker was in front of Batman the entire time but Batman didn’t know at all because the game prevents you from using detective mode when you go inside the building
Wendy'sMarioActionFigure 1 the story of Arkham city is good but do tell which is the best story
@@andrewgarfield9898 arkham asylums story was simple but better structured than city and thats a fact. City had terrible writing and insane plot holes
3:15 “Maybe they’ll fix it in a patch” the game came out in 2009 lol
They just patched FFVII yesterday so there's still hope for no shirt Ivy 🙂
Degenerate Jay True, true. I also heard that they’re fixing saint row 1 for pc lol.
@@DegenerateJay I Don't think that whould be good
@@Joshua99v saints row 1 isn't on pc?
VXR 2.0 it is on pc
6:50
There is actual in game evidence of where Jason Todd was in held Arkham Asylum. (However I doubt Rocksteady planned this far ahead.)
In the West Wing section of the Arkham Mansion there is a room with a Scarecrow audio reel. The room is full of debris and is only accessible via ultra-batclaw at the end of the game.
To back this up Jason Todd literally says "You left me in that abandoned WING at Arkham."
@@HOTD108_ which blocked it off. Once you were able to enter, Jason had already left
I think Jason was being tortured during the Jokers free time as controlling Arkham asylum since they’re are drawings on the walls and some cells. And then kept him after The events and then when Joker was healed they took Jason back to be tortured and killed.
@@jackmcguffin1572 Jason was "killed" way before the events of Arkham Asylum.
It also explains why the Spirit of Arkham circles appear during the Jason scenes in Arkham Knight. They only appear on the spirit of arkham tablets and in Amadeus's room. You can also see in the Amadeus cell that there are a ton of books neatly stacked and a wheelchair with a moving wheel as if they were recently used. The same wheelchair makes an appearance in the Jason flashback as well.
@@jackmcguffin1572 did you even watch the video?? He mentions the Arkham Knight Genesis comic, he escaped during the jokers party at the end of the game thanks to Deathstroke
They legit say that the sewer had blocked all the entrances and put croc in the sewer as he is to big to be contained in 1 cell
Imagine a website where all writers have the IQ of a pickle.
Danish Sheikh no
Depends on the pickle.....
I'm pickle rick!!!
Daniel Rodriguez cringe
That's a insult to pickles lol
Yo don't insult Pickle Rick like that
Every villain except joker and Harley r in inmate suits. Even ivy is in an inmate jacket.
And joker, scarecrow and Harley r explained.
Yer like Zauz is just not wearing a top
Osian Coleman Scarecrow?
Blue Gecko maybe he changed. I mean, you meet him ~Hour into the game
@@fugit1vegaming397 In the book "The Art of Rocksteadys Batman", they explain that Crane sews up different pieces of inmate clothes to make his costume.
and harley is dressed in some nurse uniform she probably turned bad as that game happened I mean he office is in the game with joker pics and a in progress of her actual suit so it was only joker and scarecrow
16) It was literally stated that Jason had escaped his cell when The Joker set his plan into motion, using the chaos to slip out undetected. By the time we, as Batman, first encounter Amadeus Arkham’s cell, it’s already empty meaning that Jason had JUST left which also means that he wouldn’t even technically BE The Arkham Knight yet. He had no army, no suit, no partner, and no gadgets so he was literally incapable of fighting Batman.
Wait Jason was in that cell?
How do you know are there any files in the game that state that?
Enes Aslan
It was stated in the tie-in comics that Amadeus Arkham’s cell was where Joker and Harley were keeping Jason. Additionally, Jason alludes to this by saying that he was “left in that abandoned wing of Arkham”.
There was also a vr game
for me the message screens seem like something they play to help pass inspections or something, like part of a facade to make it seem like its a really pristine and devoted institution
Agreed! That's a good point. They need the help considering they let everyone just leave.
CBR: Hates on Arkham Asylum.
Me: Takes them out with a silent takedown
Hit em with a knockout smash to let others websites similar to CBR that the Arkham games are not to be fucked with.
Regarding item #13, I worked for a company that was trying very hard to be more profitable by cutting costs. Yet they still had the budget to install some big screen TVs to show off a loop of the future of the company. Seeing it in real life, I can totally see it happening in a video game.
That's an interesting point. I've seen similar wastes of money in the food industry during my time there too. Thanks for bringing that up, Scott!
I thought that the title
was ridiculous then I'll clicked on the video and seen CBR now I understand
What makes no sense to me is the time. All of the games take place in 4 single nights?
Yeah I was fine with that in Asylum but I think it's a pattern that needs to change personally.
Degenerate Jay Arkham city had the protocol 10 hour countdown
@@alfredhinton8792 how tf can all that shit happen in ten hours?
Alfred Hinton I hope the next Arkham game has a daylight cycle so that you can play as the bat family in day time as their normal selves or as their hero counterpart.
@Jaden Carlsen he's fought in daytime before why not in the games too?
Arkham asylum is by far my favourite game, mainly because of the nostalgia when you play it after years and the amount of classic villains you get to face, love your vids jay
My favorite batman game ever
How can it be your favourite game if you play it years apart from each play through?
@@I_Play_Vic20 If I can answer that from my viewpoint. Playing the same game constantly in short periods is a sure fire way to get really tired/bored of it.
It's obviously a matter of being in the right mood. Some don't mind replying the same game often. Others are satisfied after a playthrough, moving on to other things, and coming back later.
num488 Fair enough
Jack Bond I prefer Arkham knight
There is literally a organization that tracks down "doctors" who break the Hippocratic Oath. Yes, there are so many cases where "doctors" (And I use quotes because some criminals fake their ID. Kind of what Joker did when talking to two-face in the dark knight trilogy.) That kill their patients.
Sees title
Me: who dare spread this blasphemy
The only thing I honestly *hate* about batman arkham asylum is that you can't save poor Jason.
All the security systems in Arkham are Wayne tech easy to explain him moving stuff into the cave while working on the asylum
Very good point. He bankrolls a lot in terms of security for Gotham in general.
Wayne Enterprises: makes everything from ballistics technology, to surveillance and mobility gear, to microwave ovens.
Also note, I think its the Treatment Center that has a plaque for Bruce Wayne donating funds to it for renovations. It's not impossible to think he took advantage of that to sneak in equipment to setup the Arkham Island Batcave. Would explain the random empty boxes around the cave too....
I'm pretty sure that the Arkham staff(particularly Penny Young's group) use the Titan Research Facility at their disclosure to manufacture Titan. Also, you do see Croc at the end credits scene in Asylum, confirming his escape, but it is revealed later on in Arkham City that Bane's ending was the canonical one, preserving the fact that the Arkham Sewers were closed off.
And maybe the scarecrow one too. As he is the “main” antagonist in knight
In regards to the escape thing. Joker even states himself in the beginning of the game, quote "I don't want to escape I'm having way too much fun, I even have you here to keep a smile on my face." So that question was already answered by the game if only the person writing this article actually paid attention during the first 5 minutes of the game! 🤣
I always thought the mushrooms in Scarecrow's lair were what he used to make his fear toxin, since certain mushrooms can cause hallucinations.
And because their the only ones their and he puts them under the light
No matter how serious these games are whenever you knock someone down there's stars circling around there head
Well you have to have SOME kind of indicator for the player, sheesh. :P
It should be little bats instead of stars
A defense of poison ivy's outfit: Her skin is literally toxic, all she has to do is will it, and her body produces a deadly venom that kills or incapacitates on contact with unprotected skin. Unless the city is willing to pony up for hazmat suits for the sole purpose of making sure one prisoner conforms to the dress code, it's impossible to compel her to wear anything she doesn't want to. And that's leaving aside the ethical concern that her body is photosynthetic, and making her wear too much would literally starve her to death. That's why the lights in her cell are a different colour, to supress her photosynthetic properties thus making her easier to control. By the same token, blocking her ability to photosynthesise entirely could ethically and legally be considered cruel and unusual punishment.
That sounds like comic book reasoning bullshit just to have a half naked ivy. I mean I’m not complaining but I’m not gonna defend it either. It’s like the video game equivalent of anime fan service
@@valentai_777You'll get no argument from me, I just figured, if you're going to bash on it, then the in-lore justification for it ought to be addressed too.
17:50 also at the start of the game the guards said that Batman shouldn't be there as he might "Set off some of the more violent inmates". So it's not like he was really allowed there, more so that he escorted Joker in because he felt that "Something wasn't right".
On the fear toxin, there's a place that is literally his(scarecrow) hideout.
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gabriel wladmir I’m confused. What do u mean by that?
@@proballoonboy5120 He has a fear toxin stash which is used as a solution to a riddle.
Was it even necessary to show what you edited? Like who gives a fuck lmao
@@killjoy6391 i'm a little paranoid
My question is how did he get get there, or find the hideout?
Ivys coat has an Arkham symbol on it, Harley is shown in the lore getting into the asylum before the events of the game, zassz has cut up his uniform so that he’s shirtless, and scarecrow probably stole his gear after joker got to the medical center. There’s the explanation.
20: about the costumes: the asylum didn’t have enough time to put joker in the outfit. With other villains, they might’ve gone into normal clothes after Jokers first step was completed.
All of the inmates were wearing their prison cloths, the ivy jacket is an arkham one, bane is arkham pants and shirt(he probably protested removing bus mask), joker and harley are the only ones not and it makes sense
That is one thing that shocked me when I put it together in the timeline. During Arkham Asylum, Jason was hidden away somewhere in a secret room that batman never went to. Gives you a couple of creepy thoughts.
1) During the large segments of time that you dont see the Joker in the first game, he might have gone to visit Jason.
2) Batman might have walked directly over Jason's head at some point during that night...so close yet so far away.
Scroll up someone made a cool paragraph about Jason escaping Amadeus’ cell when the chaos happens. If that’s true,then the whole Arkham series is a really deep story
We need another Batman game so bad!
We also need Rocksteady games based on other DC comic book heroes-
Superman, The Flash, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Aquaman, Booster Gold, Blue Beetle, Green Arrow and Black Canary, Martian Manhunter, Static Shock, The Atom, Captain Marvel/Shazam, Plastic Man, The Justice League, Justice League Dark, The Teen Titans, The New God's, The Justice Society, ect...
No offense. But I'm sick to death of B man and seeing him take on the same bad guys over and over.
Unless you give us A Batman that gives something new in terms of a plot and story.
And has him taking on new bad guys that haven't been used in the Arkham games yet.
Don't waste time and energy demanding more Batman stuff (Some variety would be much appreciated).
@@dylansmith5206 either another DC character or give us a Batman Beyond game.
@@dylansmith5206 I don't disagree with you. All the Batman games felt fairly similar. Although i did really enjoy Arkham knight he was just a well made villain in my eyes and id argue better than the others mainly because he was someone you could feel bad for. In terms of other games, i don't think Rocksteady could pull it off.
I'm happy to be proven wrong but i don't see them pulling off the heroes with super powers i.e. superman, wonder woman etc. Maybe they could do a Green Arrow, but how they could make it without feeling like another batman game, i don't know. That said I'm not sure u can pull off a Superman stand alone game because he is either overpowered or nothing. Obviously he does have his matches, lex, zod etc. But i don't wanna see a superman boss rush game. u cant make superman fight thugs it wouldn't be fun.
That said i am ignorant to the source, Maybe u can make a viable superman game. I haven't read the comics. But most of what I've seen makes him a powerhouse unless kryptonite or maybe damsel in distress. I think superman works better in terms of a movie or comic but not as an interactive experience like a game.
Dylan Smith I’ll take anything besides green arrow, he’s literally Batman anyways.
@@Joke8372 Well... not literally.
A lot of the conclusions the author came up with almost seem like they are based off someone else's summaries of the game and not their own experience of it
Just wanted to say congratulations on hitting 10 thousand subscribers. That's awesome
Thank you! It's thanks to all your guys support!
Degenerate Jay yay! You can get paid! (Despite this being 6 months ago)
Ok, so I'm gonna go through their list as well and provide my own thoughts. Long comment incoming.
The villains costumes. Nobody wears their traditional costume outside of Joker, who just arrived and is running amok. Everyone else has asylum uniforms/gear (Croc, Zsasz, Bane, Ivy) or outfits cobbled together from other materials/clothes (Harley, Scarecrow)
Riddler's puzzles & trophies in AA, the little book you get in one of the collector or whatever editions is written as if they're patient notes from Dr. Young and on Riddler's page she points out the Riddler's been seen leaving odd "artifacts" around the island. So its safe to assume that Eddie paid a corrupt guard, doctor or nurse to let him go to certain areas once he heard of Joker's plan. The interview tapes imply that he knew well in advance about Joker coming back and bring Batman with him. And Eddie's tantrums being what they are, it's a no brainer that many staff members probably thought that it was safer and easier to let Eddie have his fun. Besides, the trophies are harmless.
Scarecrow's fear toxins...are they dense? IT'S A MEDICAL FACILITY. Not that hard to get a few chemicals and create the stuff.
The comic series aren't canon because a lot of them directly contradict the games they are supposed to tie into so "wHeRe jAsOn?????" is a non issue.
Robin & Nightwing...sigh. Robin is either busy with something else like, you know, Joker's "bomb" threat or is not getting involved with island due to the aforementioned "bomb" threat. Plus as the series shows, Batman is very distant with Tim. And Nightwing is in Bludhaven.
Bane's presence is a non-issue.
The tour and message videos serve two purposes. Stroking Quincy's ego and to build the asylum up for potential investors who visit the asylum.
Dr. Young breaking protocol, rules, regulations etc. is a non issue. Any look at the history of mental asylums and and how special needs people are treated in some places today show that this isn't nonsensical.
Batcave II has bothered me as well. I didn't mind AS MUCH when there wasn't a starting point for Batman's career in the Arkhamverse (Thanks WB Montreal :/). There are ways you can try and explain it and hand wave it, but Batcave II really is stretching it. They even poke fun at it when Oracle asks how he managed to keep it a secret. "It's me, remember?"
The shoddy security is one I can agree with.
"aLl vIlLaInS iN oNe pLaCe??????" is a dumb complaint because a vast majority of the baddies do have legitimate (if exaggerated and extreme) mental issues. An asylum is supposed to help, cure or fix those issues.
The botanical garden labs. Like, come on. Again, medical facilities, god knows what kind of plants and crap being smuggled in leads to a pretty easy set up for mixing chemicals and shit. Anyone who isn't on the take is either threatened or murdered by Joker. Hell, I'm pretty sure the gardeners don't work the night shift. If people can have meth labs in their trailers and basements, how fucking hard is it to have one in fancy ass botanical gardens?
Guards "allowing" themselves to be bribed. Go work a shit paying job with huge risks and see if someone giving you thousands of dollars to look the other way doesn't tickle your fancy, especially if you have a family to support.
Croc being in the sewers is because he literally tore through his old cell in the medical facility. The sewers are more or less closed off and it serves two purposes. It's somewhere they can put Croc where he (theoretically) can't escape from and it keeps him away from everyone else when not having examinations or interviews and such.
Two-Face being in the hospital can mean major or minor injuries. While Road to Arkham doesn't really contradict the game in any significant way, it also doesn't add much to it either and it (much like every other tie in comic) isn't referenced in the game at all. Though I will give them this one.
No Batman surveillance is a dumb complaint. The Asylum already has cameras. What the inmates didn't destroy, Riddler already hacked (at least that's what's implied). And also, how would "Bat-Surveillance" help him when he's already on the island right in the middle of the shit show?!
Why do they allow Batman in the asylum? Because he has always worked closely with the law and has earned the trust of not just the police force but also the establishment whose messes Batman constantly cleans up.
Harley was already in the asylum. why would Batman keep tabs on someone who is not very bright, and also already locked up as far as he knows. Batman is not Big Brother. Especially not in the Arkhamverse.
The plan was never to escape. Joker's plan was about tearing the island apart and him and Bats having a huge monster brawl and making Bats go crazy.
This was a really dumb list. It's like they have no idea what context is.
Harley isnt bright? You mean the EXTREMELY high IQ psychologist....? That's the only one you pissed me off with buddy!
@@ryanpeters4415 Where'd you get the "EXTREMELY high IQ" thing? If she had such a high IQ she wouldn't have been duped by Joker as easily as she was. Not to mention that Batman himself states both in AA and AC that Harley was never bright and her behaviour throughout the whole series does little to disprove that.
@@wwemusicfanC i mean... Batman was easily duped by joker and he's supposed to be one the smartest men in the world as well as the worlds greatest detective...
@@ryanpeters4415 Are you referring to the "fake Joker gag" from AC? Let's compare: One gets duped by a body double/shape shifter into not being sure if Joker is sick/dead or not before being ambushed and figuring out the plot by the night's end, the other became a murdering psychotic and falling in love with a sociopathic mass murderer after being fed some spiel about being misunderstood.
No matter how you look at it, Harley's behaviour in the Arkham series (hell, even in the original animated universe) does not indicate a high IQ or even remotely being sharp/smart/clever.
@@ryanpeters4415 The original Mad Love comic heavily implies that Harley slept with her teachers to get through medical school. She's not extremely intelligent. She's just crafty.
Oh my god just leave this old amazing and beloved game alone!
They annoy me, but whatever. I still love the game, and no one can change my mind about it. The game is what got me into Batman. Anyways, I love the rebuttal you give. Keep it up Jay! Happy Holidays to you if I don’t say it later!
Thanks dude hope you have a great celebration!
@Christopher Marlowe rocksteady*
Cringe, people can make criticisms of games, although these ones were mostly shit, stop tying your life to a video game. I could make plenty of video games, although I give video games more benefit of the doubt in terms of writing and plot holes since they have to weave gameplay into it aswell. But there are plenty of valid criticisms of the narrative of the 4 games I could make, although they are still great games
Cbr: Why TF don’t they just swim to land?!
Us: Have you tried swimming from an Island to civilization?
“I am the mastur of bating!”
These videos would be much more pleasant to watch if the topics you are talking about are actually shown through gameplay clips. i understand that would take a lot more editing, but the point about costumes could def use a clip to "remind" us of how Ivy pulls off that outfit.
CBR has failed me for the last time
I wonder if CBR would do the same with the last of us
For Robin and Nightwing, Robin is protecting Gotham while Batman is at the Asylum. It's also implied that a lot of criminals escaped the asylum during during the Arkham riot so there needs to be SOMEONE to intercept the criminals. If you ask why Robin wasn't going after Two-Face around the end of the game, you could chalk it down that he was busy chasing another bad guy at the time.
Two-Face could've just escaped prison after Batman caught him off screen after Arkham Asylum. Happens all the time.
I read somewhere that the reason why Harley Quinn was loose at the start of asylum is because she was deemed sane by the faculty and was allowed to walk around and help out.
“How did he build a batcave?”
He tells oracle in the game he found the cave one day and then built a batcave around it
I appreciate you taking the bait and being the master of it.
People can admit themselves to Arkham Asylum in the Arkhamverse. It is addressed by those same monitors/speakers in the area where you rescue the three doctors. The speaker begins saying something like "While Arkham Asylum has become synonymous with the various so-called super criminals incarcerated in the Asylum, Arkham also hosts a state of the art in-patient treatment center which accepts most major insurance plans."
The bit about Batman’s brain percentage and dinner with Selina Kyle Killed me😂
Batman said In asylum that he saved an inmate from killing himself and found the cave he turned into a batcave
Ivy is in the same boat as Croc. They are both wearing inmate clothes. It’s just that Croc is just wearing bottoms and Ivy is just wearing a top lol.
On the Jason Todd thing, it's even worse for the author, because in the comic you mentioned, Arkham Knight Genesis, it's revealed Jason escapes at the end of the events of that game with the help of Deathstroke. He's being held in an abandoned wing of Arkham that Batman never visits during the game and Joker has access to by paying off Arkham Guards to give him so many minutes with Jason at a time, before people become suspicious of his whereabouts. Hence why whenever I play through that game now, after reading all the side comics, it always has a strange sombre feel to it.
@Christopher Marlowe "It's easy. You stick it right in front of him, right under his long pointy nose and wait."
CBR writers love to nitpick everything, I’ve read articles from them whereas they’ve picked at something so much, they’re literally pulling tiny things out and start spewing nonsense about it because they’ve not looked at the whole story/ thing they’re talking about
9:22 In both jail and prison, they actually have big high definition flat screens for inmates to watch TV in the day room, but the guards choose what channel it's on. When I was there it was either Oprah or golf. Also when you're being booked they show this informative video about rape and violence in jail and how to address it if you become a victim of either... Yeah not a nice place lmao...
I didn't even actually know that. Wow. Well hey this is a really interesting take from someone with personal experience. Thanks dude!
Never heard anyone pronounce roof as "ruff" before now lol
Lol yeah sometimes my stutter messes up pronunciations too I've learned to roll with it. My dad used to also say MASHURE for measure and that made me cringe every time.
@@DegenerateJay almost makes you sound british lmao
I pronounce "naked" as "neckid" and I'm always getting shit from my friend
@White-Van Helsing ??
@@manhattan5370 what he means is that degenerate Jay sounds like a dog
I just remembered that Victor Zsasz doesn't wear a shirt either, but that could be just to satisfy him by still being able to see his tally Mark's, I dunno
'they should declare Martial Law and the US Military should just go in and put all these people down' yeah, that didn't age well...
For the how did Batman get a cave built in Arkham Asylum: After the Knightfall comic in which Bane broke Batman's back, Batman built many Batcaves around Gotham so that he could never be caught off guard again. So during No Man's Land he uses those caves to restock resources and without those he would never be able to defeat the villains because he would be to far from the Batcave or Wayne Manor in order to restock. So there are "bunkers" in the Subway of Arkham City (Which you cant enter) Wayne Tower, Slums of Gotham, Crime Alley, Gotham Park, Warehouse.
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On the why didnt killer croc get out of the sewers there was the end screen of scarecrow getting out of the asylum from the sewers
oh shit
Well that was of 3 possible hands grabbing the titan container too. it was either Bane, Croc or Scarecrow
Scarecrows ending makes the most sense, since we know that he’s still alive after getting attacked by croc and sort of hints at him becoming a major villain in a later game (Arkham knight)
The city story was talking about almost the legend of what happened to scarecrow and that he was mauled by croc but then floated out and bane was in the water because the bat mobile dropped him in the water
During the events of asylum, you can see a tag that says "Ra's Al Ghul" meaning R'as was dead for a time but more so you can see a wheelchair on the floor with wheels moving in that abandoned wing portion of Arkham Asylum, most likely Jason only died what almost possibly a year or a few years before the events of asylum took place but Ra's likely had Jason revived via the Lazarus pit but Jason only was gradually retaining his composure besides being broken, and during the gap between games Jason was likely training the milita that we'd see in Arkham Knight.
Jason never actually died in this universe. When Joker shot him, he was immediately saved by some doctors Joker had ready immediately after finishing that recording for Batman
@@eddiediaz5518 An you back that up? As what's more plausible is that Ra's al Ghul had Jason in a near death state taken to where the league of assassins are, had him treated and from there with resources from Ra's, Jason formed the militia
The reason for Riddler trophies and Scarecrow having his feartoxin is
Frank Boles.
Your about 10 years late I would say...
@@HOTD108_ the game is 10 years old
"My about 10 years late I would say..."
Dude. Your theory about Bruce funding for the Asylum's renovation, when you enter the Medical Facility, you'll notice a board that literally says Bruce Wayne donated to the organization.
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Great job, I definitely think you should do longer videos like this
“I AM THE MASTER OF BAITING”
Batman Arkham asylum, the greatest superhero video game of all time!
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Helping your argument with my own thoughts you didn't bring up.
#20, ivy does wear an arkham asylum button up shirt and bane is wearing jump suit pants like croc. The only real one their accurate about is scarecrow, but he could've gotten them back Harley took over.
#19, joker had arkham guard, frank boles, Dr yung, and eventually Harley under his payroll (which also helps #12). So it wouldn be too surprising if fiddler had a few guards under his.
#11, Bruce could have always taken advantage of times arkham asylum had to have been renovated for new security systems and such to have put equipment in the arkham cave. Also, if Dr Young can make titan labs in the botanical gardens without most of the other guards, doctors, and warden sharp knowing, surely batman can secretly make a new batcave
#1, they really talked about movie, the rock? They are aware alcatraz was a real prison, right? (cbr is now really pissing me off) Only a few people have possibly escaped, but there's no evidence to support it. I could into all the reasons why alcatraz was a successful prison, but I think even Mythbusters has covered this well.
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Any content from you is great brother‼️ only thing I suggest is just to keep going😂
Thanks dude! :)
Number 6. No one messes with my croc
CBR: Why didnt joker escape?
Joker: I don't wanna escape, I'm having way to much fun.
I like to think that the us government haven’t sent martial law on Gotham and killed every criminal in the city... is because they’re scared shitless of batman 😂
Me an Arkham series fan: “I mean yea it makes no sense”
Another thing for #1 is that he never said or wanted to escape, he literally said that it was an island takeover
“99% of it is out to lunch in his head with catwoman”
Me:yea“lunch” 😏
They made that article bc they don’t like it
Isn't Ivy wearing a prison shirt? It certainly isn't her classic uniform in any sense. Harley was busy pre-taking the Asylum, and from her dialogue hints she has just put on her "new outfit, pretty hot, huh?" Scarecrow is perhaps the most indefensible: his outfit doesn't seem quite ad hoc enough, but it's still more practical than a lot of his traditional garb.
Ivy's is like a weird Satin shirt or silky (idk) with the Arkham logo on it's back. It's like a prison/personal hybrid that to my knowledge only she is shown to have. Doesn't mean it wasn't inmate clothes technically since it is Arkham branded and I doubt she'd just throw that on.
The characters still in costume and Arkham asylum are joker: who just got there. Harley: who snuck in. And scarecrow: who made his out of scraps found throughout the asylum.
The World’s greatest detective, the Dark Knight, the Master of Baiting
Yo, why did he pronounce roof like that?😂
Who else watching this in 2050?
I’m listening to this from the time of 1790.
I'm watching this in 2025.
@@Joe_Kerr_9797 I'm watching this from 0 BC on my way to visit Mary.
Bro it’s the beginning I’m going to visit eve
i'm listening in 2039 ;)
"Why couldn't they just swim from the island" Alcatraz Island. That is all.
Batman literally explains in-game when he built the Batcave on Arkham Island.
My thoughts? Why so serious? lol. It is a fictional game based on fictional people...it's entertainment!
That's about where this discussion should end. No need to justify every single point.
Some of it are true you know, I had some questions when I finished it (after the 3rd time maybe) but the thing is if you are looking for loop holes then the game does it job well to the point that makes you think every nook and cranny to see it less than it is.
And the second thing is, do not try to make sense of everything, you'll have sleepless nights believe me, I mean how the hell Lost ended in a church, how can you make sense of joker's thinking and the way he sees things in Joker movie,
And the last thing is, well, there are only a handful of games that can make a story and gameplay as good as Arkham games, it's really hard to make such thing, assassin's Creed is good? Or GTA? Even with a masterpiece like Death Stranding you'll find it hard to enjoy the story while walking all across (UCA)
The fact that I can hear the background gameplay…
Am I high?
Your take was brilliant! I love your posts