How to Make 400-500HP On a 24v 2nd Gen Cummins RELIABLY
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- In this video I walk you through everything you need to make 400-500hp on a 2nd Gen 24v Cummins Dodge Ram 2500/3500 truck reliably. Follow along as I go through the full parts list from the Fenley Turbo, to the Flux Mach 4 injectors, to the Edge Comp tuner, to the head studs, Fass, and Tier 1transmission upgrades.
While lots of places will give you a general idea, this is the complete list to do it the RIGHT way!
The Parts List:
Fenley 60/67/12 Turbo:
fenley-turbo.m...
Flux Mach 4 Injectors:
www.fluxdiesel...
Edge Comp Tuner:
www.edgeproduc...
ARP Head Studs:
Transmission:
Stage 1-2 Automatic
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Hamilton 103lb Valve Springs:
Hamilton Push Rods
Fass 100 Lift Pump:
Edge Insight CTS3 Gauges:
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The parts List:
Fenley 60/67/12 Turbo:
fenley-turbo.myshopify.com/products/60-67-12
Flux Mach 4 Injectors:
www.fluxdiesel.com/98-5-2002-5-9-cummins
Edge Comp Tuner:
www.edgeproducts.com/products/in-line_chips_and_modules/comp_tuner/
Transmission:
Stage 1-2 Automatic
tieronetransmissions.com
Edge Insight CTS3 Gauges:
www.cjcoffroad.com/collections/digital-gauges/products/edge-insight-cts-3
Hamilton 103lb Valve Springs
Hamilton Push Rods
Fass 160 Lift Pump
ARP Head Studs
did you have any issues getting this in cali?
were they 625 head studs or ?
I've been waiting for this video for so long that I sold my 2g and bought a 3g lol
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i got a 03 3rd gen SLT bare bones dosnt even have powered windows I love it over a 2nd gen any day, we have the superior 24v over the 2nd gen 24v with the Killer Dowel Pin and also the interiors are not ancient. 12v are cool and all but its nice to be reasonably comfortable with newer amenities.
@@nickkiosk5513 yeah I love my 3rd gen, its worlds faster than my 2nd gen was and way more comfortable.
Now you can go watch my 500hp 3rd gen video 😂
@@JustDiesels I’ve already watched that like 5 times, I watch all your videos like 5 times just to get the information imbedded in my brain😂
I just bought a second gen. Perfect timing !
Dang, caught a video 7 minutes after upload.
shoutout to Duncan Fenley from little old Lodi. Ol boy has gone a long way from building us local boys out of his garage. My Charlie Pitcher built engine has a fenley as well.
I have compounds on my 96 a 63/67/12 over a s475. I used crazy carls piping kit. Its a blast to drive tows my gooseneck really well. My egts never go above 1200 degrees
Did you buy the complete kit with turbos? My turbo is on its way out and im debating on a single or compounds for my 99. How's the quality?
@@bradm1998 no I just bought the piping kit from crazy carls. I bought my borgwarner s475 from ebay for 500bucks. My top turbo is taterbuilt turbo.. it's worth going to compounds alot nicer to daily drive to
About the cleanest 2nd gen I’ve ever seen, awesome video sir!
I have a 98 24v cummins with an edge box. I made an electronic controller to operate a VGT turbo (He351ve), then converted my truck to VGT turbo. It had mild low end smoke, so I switched to quadzilla for the custom tuning and smoke control. I wouldn’t say I 100% regret the tuner switch, but the edge hit so much harder and was a lot more fun to drive. I kind of miss it.
That’s a killer setup. In that situation, the custom tuning ability of the quad totally makes sense.
Yeah, that’s what I thought, but really the little puff of smoke off idle with the edge doesn’t seem that bad. It was so much more fun to drive and felt more powerful.
@@jerrythechainsawguy8100with custom tuning the quadzilla will hit hard. It's a pain to play with all the options but once you get it dialed it's amazing.
Thanks man I appreciate it!! I'm geting a ram 2500 01 5.9l cummins with stage 4 trany, after market injectors, after market turbo, and many other performanc parts, but this video helped me learn more!!! Thank you!! ❤
I have an 01 2nd gen. I installed a 4" turbo back exhaust. Had TurboLabs of America rebuild/upgrade an HX35 turbo to 67mm c/t wheel. Airdog FAAS lift pump, DAP 150hp injectors. Quadzilla Adreneline V2 tuner. Also had my auto tranny rebuilt with billet torque converter and shift kit. I don't know how much HP I produce but it rocks. My next goal is to install new head studs that I bought. Haven't had the time. I did all the work besides the tranny myself. I can't see paying someone else to work on my truck when I can do it. Also I installed and ARB airlocker in my differential. I don't have 4WD. I never plan on selling my truck. I love the Quadzilla tuner. So much control over the tuning.
I'm sorry you live in a state that has SMOG checks
Me too haha
Killer video man. Dropping the truck off at Maximum this week! Your videos inspire me to get to work on mine!
Glad to hear it! Russ and the team there are awesome to deal with.
Dude we gotta get DRAGY to sponser you, so you dont have to hold the phone
What kind of fuel milage are you getting with all this. I don’t know if you mentioned it in the video or not but if you did I missed it
Ps. What kind of wheels and tires do you have
Saw the 2 Optimas in your truck the brand has been junk for years. Especially if you live somewhere that it gets cold! I purchased one about a few years ago it was warrantied after a Year you get one exchange per the 3 year warranty. . I purchased a replacement after the warranty battery died about 1 1/2 years later, that One went bad after a few weeks. ORiley's gave me a hard time about the warranty saying it tested good but they couldn't simulate it losing change after 2 nights in an unheated garage! So I bit the bullet and went to Costco for an Intestate that's been working great for almost a year even when the temps in The Michigan UP dropped below 0 I was always able to start my vehicle parked for a week in sub 0f temps.. I'll never buy an Optima Battery again. In Forums lots of people are having quality issues with them the past 10+ years. My Ram Has 2 AGM Intestates in it been used hard towing a 12k Fifth Wheel camper from Sturgis to Arizona to Michigan never had an issue. I would stay away from Optima if you need reliability..
Smog friendly “ish” 🤣.
People under estimate 450-500 hp in these trucks. You had it scootin really well for how little it smoked/how fast it spooled.
Yeah that’s plenty of power in these things! More than enough to get into trouble 😂
@@JustDiesels even a 2g can go 0-100 fast enough to make the troopers mad for sure 😅
My stock trans literate ate itself alive lol barely got it to the shop and he said I basically had no gears lol only 93,000 miles 😅
I can’t wait to see more. Fantastic build and thanks for sharing. One day I’ll own a nice 2nd gen.
Once I do body work I can finnaly do engine mods I cannot wait
I’ve got a 2000 24v fully loaded with 180k miles. Can’t wait to do all of this with my truck. I just uploaded my first TH-cam video of my red 1500 gasser. You inspire me man! Love the content.
That’s awesome! Enjoy the truck and thank you for supporting
Also that ac condensor cover/guard. Where did that come from? I need one bad
It’s from Genos Garage! They were the first ones to come up with that idea so I figured I’d support them. Have one on my third gen too.
@@JustDiesels I’ll go take a look. Didn’t realize anyone made em.
Awesome hopefully We get a 4th gen/ 5th gen 650jp video
I’m so torn on that truck…. Everything in me wants to tear into it but I don’t want to lose the only warranty covered vehicle I’ve ever owned haha
Once you delete you wont need a warranty my brother in law said the same thing and the motor blew up at 40k miles mine has 120k zero issues after delete.
you need a micfophone. the audio is terrible. otherwise great video!
What is the size of your tires and what wheels do you have?
How to make 500 hp reliably? Get two of them😆
What about a standard? Everything is the same basically? Besides the transmission? I'm not looking to pull anything i want fast 500hp. Bought the truck dead. Brought her back to life
Everything is the same, except all you need on a manual is an upgraded clutch. A whole lot cheaper than a built auto!
How do you like the edge vs smarty touch?
Clamping the AXS dropper by the stanchion like a badass. lol
That’s the proper way to put it in a work stand!
I have the 60 67 12 on my 6 speed, I'm running ducky 150s and a quadzilla, now it I think its to much fuel or it's my tuning but it's very smoky but once it spools it's a very nice turbo and if it's straight piped it has a very nice whisle. 👍
Here I am throwing a steed speed T4 manifold with a S464 turbo with big injectors and tuner. On a stock transmission with a warranty.
How is that truck so clean. Biggest mistake I made was selling my 05’ for a 4th Gen. nothing but problems and my 4th gen only has 16k miles on it.
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Love my edge comp my transmission doesn't agree
I like video and agree with one exception. I have the Quadzilla and find the custom tuning from TJ Frey to be so much better because you can tune specific to needs and specific parts you have installed.
Man I'm not even a dodge/ram guy but my god is that truck gorgeous! You do a great job keeping care of your trucks .
I appreciate that!
Finally ! I’ve been waiting for this video for years ! Lol 😂
Sorry I’ve definitely lagged on posting it!
Awesome to finally see this video after a long wait! Great well done video per usual!
Thanks man! Appreciate all of you being patient.
The video I’ve been waiting for
How's the EGTs with this set up? Towing egts?
I got my eye on a 5.9, im also in CA. I think the last owner put in some airbags in the bed, theo nly down side that its red, so ticket machine!
Just curious if you did all that investment on a stamped 53 block casting?
No mine’s not a 53.
Great video as always!
Good video, strait to the point and informative, change the gears in the axles will help save the trans and add some pep to it
Your first pull made me realize how much of a turd my second gen is 😂😂
Excellent video brother.
I’d like to see your mods run with a smarty for comparison
what's the actual torque? How many parts is the transmission in?
Where u located?
kinda look like SLO or pismo area
Damn good video definitely explain everything well
Trade in on a 6.7 stroke with a party pipe and a tune- done
Nice, bet it's a good difference. When you get but by the hp bug a 75/87/1.10 T6 would be really well matched, won't really add lag, and won't need additional supportung mods.
Yeah we’ll see how far I end up pushing it but compounds would be awesome to have.
I would love to see a dyno video! I've built my 02 really similar and with the same mindset of right down the middle. The satisfaction of the gains is amazing and it leaves you a little starry-eyed and I too was captivated. My point here is that I got comfortable saying it was making 450+ but talk is cheap and reality is brutal. I've never had a chance to put my truck on a dyno so its still unknown but when you line up with commonrails that are proven on the dyno its a good gage! So in short I would love to see what your truck would do on the dyno!
Same! I really wanted to but there’s nothing close to me. Thankfully this is a pretty common setup so plenty of other people have, but the goal with the 0-60 was to actually give some hard data on the improvements as best I could without a dyno.
I have the same turbo with stock injectors and the old Comp, still an absolute blast to drive. I’ll definitely be looking into upgrading injectors also though
Oh yeah the injectors were a cherry on top, but the truck was still plenty fast even with the stock turbo and sticks as evidenced by the times!
About how much did you spend on all mods?
IF you're using the camera mic, it sounds like you're at a distance. Would like to hear you more clearly. Thanx.
I had a major mic issue on this one but decided it was passable enough to post
2nd gen performance, ya buddy!!!
If you were in a different state, let’s say Oklahoma, no emissions testing. What turbo setup would you run?
Probably compounds. Tuning/fueling is much more limited on these trucks vs a common rail Cummins, so compounds do a better job covering a wider usable RPM band with the limiting tuning ability.
What’s the egts look like on this setup?
What’s the AN line running down the passenger side of your valve cover? Awesome video man.
That’s the fleece coolant bypass
If you was to do a compound set up, what size turbos do you use? And what compound kit?
Honestly that all depends on your usage, goals, and fueling. If I did it I’d do a setup over the stock size turbo to keep more low end power.
You did a great job explaining the build to get this kind of horsepower. One thing for certain, and this comes from experience owning a 24v truck. You need to have at least 13psi from the lift pump to the VP44 so the fuel in the VP44 can recirculate back to the tank and keep the VP44 cool. From what I remember on the other diesel forums it was a norm to have at least 17 -18 psi at all times on the fuel gauge.
Yep! It’s huge to keep these pumps on these trucks alive especially when pushing them with upgrades.
@@JustDiesels It is huge and unfortunately there are numerous repair shops that work on Dodge trucks and don't know that a good quality lift pump is needed that attaches to the frame and not to the engine. Do it right to begin with, do your homework before buying and join some Diesel Forums and ask a lot of questions before buying. When you see a truck for sale that is stock with only 55K or even 150K plan on putting a new lift pump like a Fass or Airdog and possibly a new VP44 (I wouldn't give it a second thought myself) or you might be sitting on the side of the road. My first 1999 Dodge SLT 5 speed left me sitting on I-4 after driving it only less than 200 miles. I was a stock truck with less than 160K miles. So $4,000 later and a new VP44 and Airdog lift pump I was well educated on the Dodge fuel system.
I’m in the San dimas area… I want to do a stage 2 or 3 manual trans conversion on my 6.0 power stroke. Any recommendations on a reliable mechanic who can make this happen?
For install I recommend Maximum diesels. For the transmission I personally have been very happy with my Tier 1
@@JustDiesels thank you so much. I will definitely check them out
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You are so underrated brotha, I hope you get the hype you deserve!!!
Appreciate that!
Do this to your first gen
when are we getting the Just Diesels rear window stickers
I need to get on it… I’ve been slacking!
Hey andrew! Love your videos, this is great information! I'd love to copy your exact setup! Would you mind sharing your tune setting for your Edge comp? Like you, I'd like to minimize the smoking my rig does!
I ended up doing max timing, max pedal sensitivity, and then have max fuel come in around 20psi. That helped with smoke, but there always going to be some since I have 35s and stock 3.55 gears with a single turbo.
@@JustDiesels Thanks Andrew! Is this for all tune levels?
Yeah but then tune 1 and 2 I have full fueling at 10psi
@@JustDiesels Thanks for details!! Love your videos man!
Camera 100/100
Mic 8.5/100
My mic took a crap for this video haha
“2g” and “reliable” do not go in the same sentence.
12 valve Cummins?😭
Driver issue
Thanks for the info 😊
Don’t make horsepower on your engine if it’s rev limit is 3k rpm. You’ll make 500whp at 850lbft of torque. Just use the truck what it’s meant for.
Bruh what
@@devin3156😂
Why no gm trucks. Genuinely curious
I have nothing against them. If I had the money I’d own an LBZ in the collection.
@@JustDiesels dope. Sick second gen. I have one as well. Such a different type of feeling driving that versus something new.
How about 53 blocks?
Have had mine at 500ish for 5 years no issues
If it hasn’t blown yet, send it! Maybe put in a coolant pressure gauge to just keep an eye on how much you’re stressing the block.
Do one for a 7.3
The 7.3’s been sold already
I actually have a video I need to edit going through the power upgrades on that truck.
Quadzilla is superior…yeah not as user friendly but you’re wasting your setup
Great vid man 👍👍 also, love the shirt !!!