the scene where todd is helping neil with his lines should have been kept in. it really shows how deep their friendship was, and why todd was so greatly affected by neil's death. also, we haven't really seen todd like that in the movie -- loud & carefree. seems as though he could only truly be himself around neil.
I know I'm many years late but if they added that scene dock scene it would actually be genius. The fact that Neil quoted "To be or not to be, that is the question." From Hamlet which is a tragedy and describes how miserable life is. He is Contemplating whether it's worth living or to just kill himself.
the very small foreshadowing in this movie is gorgeous. the second time watching it was haunting. the suicide references and death references were everywhere. the scene with todd and neil running lines always gets to me because of how the character neil chooses to compare himself to is hamlet. he quotes "to be or not to be. that is the question." the most famous suicide monologue ever. haunting.
Yes!! I was gonna point this out! The scene where he runs lines with Todd is brilliant, I really wish they had kept that entire scene in. The “to be or not to be” monologue quotation is genius.
I think the scene where they pointed out that even the after school clubs where chosen for them would be an important part to leave in. As it underscores the reason why Neil was pushed off the brink. the boy had absolutely no agency in his life at all, even the little things someone else decided what was best for him. The play was the one thing he chose for himself is one and only taste of freedom, when both that and his friends which at that point where the only people he felt cared about him at all where ripped away, you had a person who felt he had nothing left and could no longer continue this prison.
Exactly as I was thinking! That also seems to go along with the left handed spaghetti scene. Their whole lives were practically controlled, having clubs chosen for them, being told off for eating with the ‘incorrect’ hand. I can completely sympathize with these character in having their lives controlled, leading to of course Neil would want to break out and do something he loved, and something that he chose for himself. Only to have his father come in and once again exhibit the control he wants over his son so badly.
@@piperc343 I think they cut the dinner scene because they wanted to go right from Neil's talking to his dad, who tells him to quit the play, to Neil seeking help. I think it added to the story. It's a funny scene with them doing that, but there was already them doing "daring" stuff that maybe they felt they didn't need it. Similar to why the scene with the record player in class was cut. They had enough scenes of Keating teaching the class already. As to the extracurricular activities, it could've stayed in, but maybe the point was already made that Neil had to drop that activity he liked, no questions asked.
6:42 the scene by the window is a recurring motif. Just before Neil dies, he looks out of the window as he puts his crown on. He looks dreamily out of the window just after his father pulled him out of the School Annual too. It's like the outside world beyond the window represents freedom and his dreams, just like in the play The Midsummer Night's Dream or the forest where the Dead Poets' Society gathers. And Neil looks longingly out of the window from within the building where he's trapped.
If you're talking about the scenes here and why they weren't in the film originally, you must remember that some scenes aren't really necessary to the story once you put it together, plus the film can't be three hours long! This film was already over two hours and you have to have it at a certain length so there can be enough showings of it in one day.
Some of the scenes I can see why. For example, the eating left handed scene. That takes place after Neil's encounter with his dad and his dad making him quit the play. It is better to have it go directly to the scene later that evening where he talks to Keating. Plays better. Also, some of these scenes were cut for time. Remember, the film was already over 2 hours. You can't make the film 3 damn hours. Wouldn't work for this film.
@@outofcontextscenes you're only saying that after you've seen the film. If they released it at 3 hours I assure you, less people would have watched it.
@@yonatanschlussel okay lmao? At least they would still have one view- IT chapter two was three house and millions saw that in the theater, Gone with the wind is three and a half and look how many people watched it, End Game was three hours- the time doesn’t matter if it has a good plot and good actors.
@@outofcontextscenes it's not just time. It's budget and what would fit with the storyline and what wouldn't. Also the only reason anyone watched endgame was because it was the ENDGAME movie. Everything was building up to that movie
The place Todd & neil practice Neil's role is the same place todd ran to and fell when he heard about his death. NOW it seems logical why he ran there. HOW COULD THEY CUT IT OUT HOW AND WHY
Eating with left hand scene was kind of iconic, gives more insight into how "hellton" invaded every little thing about their students in the name of tradition, even with which hand they should use for eating, so glad Charlie stuffing meatball made it lighter xD
@@skippersoup380 the whole point of the scene is them eating with their wrong hand. If you watch, he switches back when the teacher tells him to, then immediately swaps again as soon as Hager is out of sight. I’m aware of the “proper” technique. This is a matter of the boys following Keating and trying new experiences.
@@yonatanschlussel Exactly. How long can the film be? It was already over two hours. Also, some of the stuff was just the same things that were already done in the film to some degree so it wasn't necessary. All films have deleted scenes.
7:34 "FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I FEEL COMPLETELY ALIVE!" - NEIL IM STILL CRYING! THIS MADE ME FEEL SAD EVEN MORE. he was so happy rehearsing for his audition.
i personally think that a lot of the todd scenes should've been kept in becuase it helps develop his character, it was kind of strange to me how he went from basically just a quiet background character to the main after neils death
7:23 "Think about it. Most people, if they're lucky, get to live half an exciting life, right? If i get this part I lived a dozen of great lives. TO BE OR NOT TO BE? THAT IS THE QUESTION." it such a shame that they deleted this part. The foreshadowing of Neil's death in here is so such. "to be or not to be?" a famous suicide qoute we just got robbed HELLA BAD!
Why did they deleted the scene with Todd and Neil😞. It's the scene where you can see Neil and Todd's friendship growing and the reason why Todd was so devastated after hearing the passing of Neil. It's only around Neil where Todd can actually be so carefree. 😞😞😞
Becuase they didn't need it. They had the scene with the writing set birthday president. And believe it or not, Peter Weir knows more about making movies than you do. And William Anderson knows more about editing movies than you do. That is why they both were nominated for major awards for this movie.
6:42 that was such a touching part. You could really see how badly Neil wanted to be in the play! I wish they redid the movie on the dvd and put that part in.
Many of these deleted scenes are included in a special director's cut of the movie that is rarely seen. I remember ABC broadcasting this movie after its theatrical run, and the version they aired was the director's cut. Many of these deleted scenes help explain later aspects of the film. I don't know why they were ever pulled from the final cut.
Ummm. no. It was not the "director's cut" shown on ABC. It was the edited for TV cut that not only removes some scenes for content, but adds some in to make the movie fit into a time window. A director's cut is when a director originally WANTED to have a certain version, but was overridden by a studio, or producer, or whatever. And that is NOT what happened here.
@@winup9417 Well, they wanted to show Knox having some sort of challenge in his life. Had Keating not been around, he might not have tried to pursue Chris and just brushed off his feelings.
I watched the director’s cut for English class and it was my first time watching the movie so I was confused when people said these scenes weren’t in the actual movie
We were robbed of the scene with Todd helping Neil with his lines because not only does it show how their friendship was different from everyone else’s but it also shows the significance of when he dies how Todd runs down to the dock because that was a place where they bonded
I think the scene at 11:44 should have stayed in. There were hints that Keating possibly connected with his fellow teacher, such as him sharing tea or the wave he gives as Keating leaves for good. Even at dinner when Keating impresses him with his poetry... "No, Keating." I think this sends the message that even the old folks who maintain the ideas of tradition still have a side of them vulnerable to change. Keating definitely reached this man (I don't know the character's name offhand) even if he didn't completely change his views on education.
Well, we see he did bond with Keating. In the scene after Todd is forced to sign the paper, McAllister, the teacher, is outside with students teaching them terms of the building in Latin, so we see that he did learn a bit from Keating, who he waves to, knowing he is leaving the school.
as much as i agree with you, and i wish they went a bit more into keating and who he had impressed on instead of softly insinuating it or giving little glimpses, i also understand why they didn’t. they wanted the movie to focus as much as they could on the boys and how much keatings teachings effected them and their lives, and ultimately how it could effect anyone, but especially those who are younger, but i definitely feel we were robbed. lol.
Okay, but in the scene where they go to the dock, when Neil says "I love this", you can hear Todd say "What?Me?". And It warms my heart on so many levels
lol im late to this but I think they really should have kept in the scene with Todd and Neil bonding. The way they were so loud and care-free on the dock and being who they wanted to be hit hard. This would have made sense when, after Neil's death, Todd runs to the dock, looking for Neil and for who they both wanted to be.
Still upset they didn’t leave the scene where Todd find out about neils death and says something like “he’ll beat neil’s dad, next time he seems him and doesn’t care what happens to him.” And where he clearly shows he doesn’t want to and will not sign the paper and spoke how he finally felt, showing he did have it in him and cared about people and is more than just a shy guy who doesn’t know how to stand up for himself
We'd must convince Peter Weir to release a new blu-ray Director's cut edition with all deleted scenes, edited in (Knox and Chris's kiss after Neil's play included) and possibly dubbed for international markets with same voices.
+HQBacon Cannot remember if I got you an answer about that question: I found that long scene, filmed around the cave, never used anywhere in any theatrical or home edition, as a special bonus special scene on the bluray international release. Hope something will happen soon or later about a new complete, director full cut version of this masterpiece.
I had a poster of Neal against the window at 7:05 and always wondered which scene it was from. Too bad it didn't make the final cut. And Tood's scenes should have remained too.
Oops sorry for replying 3 years later too 😅 It was a professional poster, a plastified and thick paper about 50x30 cm with the name of the film below. I have 5: Neal against the window, Neal backstage before realizing his father is here, the boys running in the woods to the cave with their lamp torches, the boys in the cave and Keating surrounded by the boys. Three of them are still on the walls of my childhood bedrooms 😄 I found them in a small shop in the South of France, specialized in movie / pop music memorabilia. These posters were used in cinemas to advertise the film. The title is in French “Le Cercle des Poètes Disparus”. The shop is closed now unfortunately.
I mean.. Okay let's say I can accept not seeing all the scenes in the movie.. But the Neil and Todd scene.. I feel beyond robbed.. How could they leave that out?! This scene could be one of the most beautiful ones, what with the two boys bonding and seeing Todd being actually loud for once, and carefree and happy! And Neil so happy, doing what he loves with a person who actually cares about what he wants! There is the tragic foreshadowing when Neil recites Hamlet.. But at that exact moment the characters are happy and we are happy and God! The scene should have been in the film
Yeah, you see more of his stutter here. He does it a little near the end when he says, "That is not true Cameron and you know it. He didn't put us up to anything. N-Neil loved acting."
I can see that they had to limit the time to some degree, but it all of these scenes all add valuable things to the overall narrative. There had better be an extended cut released soon, or I’ll have to edit it together myself.
You can't use every scene you shoot in a film. Sometimes it slows the film down, as you edit it. Also, you going to release a three hour film of this? Studio won't go for it. It was already over 2 hours to begin with.
These deleted scenes were in the theatrical release in 1989. Not sure why people are acting like they weren't. In the video releases they were left out, but they were in the original theatrical release.
The actor who plays Headmaster Mr. Nolan, Norman Long, was 73 during filming and is still alive and acting today at age 98 !!! He was married for 75 years; his wife died in 2011.
His name is Norman *Lloyd* actually, not Long, and he's still alive and working! Wikipedia says "at 103 years of age [he] is the oldest working Hollywood actor as of 2018".
The way Charlie just 1000 yard stares as everyone else sings is Haunting. You have to wonder what he must be thinking in that moment, having been one of the Neil's closest friends.
i wish i had seen this movie as a boy rather than as a man. It's never too late I suppose, but part of me thinks I might just have been a different man, or at the very least, a different boy.
I wish there was a cut with all of the scenes filmed, including these, the scene with Keating joining them in the cave, the scene at Neil's funeral... Etc
The cave scene is on here, but I didn't think it was shot well. I saw the funeral scene in another video on here where a guy is shooting home video of the filming of that.
@@treenanelson2038 Every part of this is authentic! He confirmed in an interview that Peter Weir didn't;t want them to act, but to be their authentic selves
They should've kept the scene of Neil and anderson talking about how excited he was about acting again because it lets him live dozens of exciting lives. And to show more how close they were.
I have seen this movie so many times. It's easily one of my all-time favorites. I'm even writing a research paper of sorts about it. SOMEHOW, I've never seen these before! It's an belated birthday and early Christmas present wrapped into one awesome video where Neil performs Shakespeare with Todd and I have never been happier, wow.
I watched it first time two days ago, why why I spent whole life to miss such a movie. It’s 2024 already and this is my favorite movie now. Love this movie . I wish Neil was not dead. I wish he could achieve the success
I the shot at 11:00 should have been kept in because it shows how Neil doesn’t want to wake up to his own life. It would help show the audience how trapped in his life he has begun to feel
I just saw this film a few days ago and not only did I feel a strong bond with the boys and as I being an 18 year old guy myself, but especially with Neil as I too want to be an actor and my mom doesn't support me. Unlike Neil's dad however she is ok with me trying it out. When Neil talks about finally finding his passion I related to that so much as I had the exact same euphoric feeling when discovering my passion for acting. This movie made me cry and I'll be a better man and actor for it.
Personally I would keep 1:02-2:57 extracurriculars 6:42-7:08 Neil looking out window 7:09-8:15 Neil and Todd 10:00-11:40 Neil and Mr. Keating 12:47-3:10 boys singing at church 14:06-14:20 Mr. Keating and "the death of Neil Perry was a tragedy"
I understand that the deleted scenes were deleted because the movie would be long and they are unrelated to the plot. But there's a scene here where Todd helps Neil practice his lines. And that scene definitely affects the plot. This scene explains why Todd ran to the dock when he finds out that Neil killed himself.
7:14 this scene is everything what i wanted to see today I love it! I think if this scene had been in move relationship between neil and todd would have been more developed. In this scene we can see that Todd can be truly himself only if Neili is next to him🥺
The only scenes out of these that I'm glad they didn't use are the ones of them eating with their left hands (although it was pretty funny) and the one where the principle was assigning them their extra-curricular activites
Nir Da Yeah, I think it is better to go right to the scene later that night when Neil goes to Keating about his dilemma he just had with his dad. As to the extracurricular activities scene, it is to show a payoff from the earlier moment when Neil's dad forces him to not take the school annual. That's why Nolan seems surprised-he didn't know about the conflict.
I found the "left hand" and assignment scenes very interesting and revealing. Shows how restrictive not only Neil's home life was, but even the school was dictating their lives. I mean, the school telling you what extra-curriculars you have to do? Wow. Sure, the film is FINE without those two scenes, but had they been included would have brought a stronger insight as to what these boys were going through.
BoltManiac I was thinking about your comment on Nolan assigning the extra-curricular activities. I think he also does it based on what the boys want. Notice when he got to Neil he asked about no school annum, as though Neil had not put it down on his list.
0:25. NEIL: So what do you think of my father? TODD: You don't want to know. The DVD doesn't include the deleted scenes. The only time the deleted scenes were shown was in a CBS broadcast of the movie in late 1991 or early 1992. Where can I find them?
i know why they did it but I really wish they didn't delete the scenes with them in the office (it showed how little control Neil had over his life and how much Todd has developed) and the scene between Neil and Todd. That scene showed how close they were and really displayed Neils love for acting. Soo tempted to edit the movie and add these scenes to it lol
Thanks for posting. I wish they had kept these deleted parts. I particularly like the scene where students wear their eye masks and the line, "words can never contain as much music does the unsayable grace".
there is so much good stuff that'd do wonders for the movie (im not gonna start about Todd and Neil but damn) but the part that killed me the most was definetely the one with eating with left hand. like 1. Knox trying to trash Nolan 2. Charlie looking at Nolan with ABSOLUTE DISGUST 3. Meeks trying his best 4. they all having so much fun
I love these scenes because it shows more of the interaction between the group that I made me love the movie. Also, love how they touch more on how Mr. Keating reacted to Neil Perry's death. But most of these scenes just make my day and make me smile.
I think 14:24 minutes more in this movie should be there, it’s so important. But I’m such happy that scene when Todd screaming and running after Neil’s dead was in the snow and not in the school like in the book.
the scene where todd is helping neil with his lines should have been kept in. it really shows how deep their friendship was, and why todd was so greatly affected by neil's death. also, we haven't really seen todd like that in the movie -- loud & carefree. seems as though he could only truly be himself around neil.
i agree
That and it deepens in how much acting means to neil
@@svenvandekerchove2431 ohh yes exactly
@@connib2295 and once you realize that, it hurts much worse
friendship, yes....
The scenes with Todd are very necessary, they show his character development. And the one with him and Neil is heartwarming
Yes...you are a better director and editor than the Oscar nominated people who made this movie
@@KnickKnack07 it's a shame the Academy didn't think this movie deserved an Oscar
I know I'm many years late but if they added that scene dock scene it would actually be genius. The fact that Neil quoted "To be or not to be, that is the question." From Hamlet which is a tragedy and describes how miserable life is. He is Contemplating whether it's worth living or to just kill himself.
the movie could be 10 hours long, I would still watch it
Me too
15. Me too.
Same here
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same sis
the very small foreshadowing in this movie is gorgeous. the second time watching it was haunting. the suicide references and death references were everywhere. the scene with todd and neil running lines always gets to me because of how the character neil chooses to compare himself to is hamlet. he quotes "to be or not to be. that is the question." the most famous suicide monologue ever. haunting.
the dies irae theme sprinkled into the score as they run to the cave for the first time
Even notice when Keating mentions that one day we will all stop breathing the camera is on Neal?
@@sha11235 yes!! one of my favourite nuances of the film. it stays on him the entire time, the whole "stop breathing, turn cold, and die."
Yes!! I was gonna point this out! The scene where he runs lines with Todd is brilliant, I really wish they had kept that entire scene in. The “to be or not to be” monologue quotation is genius.
the dock scene makes todd running there so much sadder
Aaah that explains it because I was confused as to why he was running there.
And why he screams Neil since he screamed Todd
I imagine that's where they had their first kiss. Neil was so high on adrenaline. When Todd finished a good acting scene, Neil kissed him abruptly.
@@alexrose20 omg i would love to see that i wish it could be
ohhh i didn't even recognize that it was a dock
Charlie stuffing a meatball in his mouth is a whole mood
Army 💜
It’s Nwanda
He’s basically Ron weasley
@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 DO NOT DISRESPECT CHARLIE LIKE THAT!!
@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 he's most definitely not
I think the scene where they pointed out that even the after school clubs where chosen for them would be an important part to leave in. As it underscores the reason why Neil was pushed off the brink. the boy had absolutely no agency in his life at all, even the little things someone else decided what was best for him. The play was the one thing he chose for himself is one and only taste of freedom, when both that and his friends which at that point where the only people he felt cared about him at all where ripped away, you had a person who felt he had nothing left and could no longer continue this prison.
Yeah. The suicide seems unbelievably immature until / unless the depth of their oppression is far more profound.
The left handed spaghetti scene also highlights severe oppression.
You raise a good point.
Exactly as I was thinking! That also seems to go along with the left handed spaghetti scene. Their whole lives were practically controlled, having clubs chosen for them, being told off for eating with the ‘incorrect’ hand. I can completely sympathize with these character in having their lives controlled, leading to of course Neil would want to break out and do something he loved, and something that he chose for himself. Only to have his father come in and once again exhibit the control he wants over his son so badly.
@@piperc343 I think they cut the dinner scene because they wanted to go right from Neil's talking to his dad, who tells him to quit the play, to Neil seeking help. I think it added to the story. It's a funny scene with them doing that, but there was already them doing "daring" stuff that maybe they felt they didn't need it. Similar to why the scene with the record player in class was cut. They had enough scenes of Keating teaching the class already. As to the extracurricular activities, it could've stayed in, but maybe the point was already made that Neil had to drop that activity he liked, no questions asked.
6:42 the scene by the window is a recurring motif. Just before Neil dies, he looks out of the window as he puts his crown on. He looks dreamily out of the window just after his father pulled him out of the School Annual too. It's like the outside world beyond the window represents freedom and his dreams, just like in the play The Midsummer Night's Dream or the forest where the Dead Poets' Society gathers. And Neil looks longingly out of the window from within the building where he's trapped.
i’m sad now
Also the story he tells abt the woman and the madman in the window
@@jazzydoggokazoo1481 yes! and he opens it to let the MADMAN IN!
im killingmyself now fr
and after neil dies todd stands beside the window and looks out of it too :(
It's 2020 and I'm just saying WE'VE BEEN ROBBED
finally found someone in this comment section from 2020
@@morbidlonging lol
Love this movie!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤😂
If you're talking about the scenes here and why they weren't in the film originally, you must remember that some scenes aren't really necessary to the story once you put it together, plus the film can't be three hours long! This film was already over two hours and you have to have it at a certain length so there can be enough showings of it in one day.
@@sha11235 I would watch it if it was 5 hours long lol
Can't believe they deleted some of these. Especially the Neil and Todd one
Some of the scenes I can see why. For example, the eating left handed scene. That takes place after Neil's encounter with his dad and his dad making him quit the play. It is better to have it go directly to the scene later that evening where he talks to Keating. Plays better. Also, some of these scenes were cut for time. Remember, the film was already over 2 hours. You can't make the film 3 damn hours. Wouldn't work for this film.
sha11235 I would watch it if it was 10 hours😔😂
@@outofcontextscenes you're only saying that after you've seen the film. If they released it at 3 hours I assure you, less people would have watched it.
@@yonatanschlussel okay lmao? At least they would still have one view- IT chapter two was three house and millions saw that in the theater, Gone with the wind is three and a half and look how many people watched it, End Game was three hours- the time doesn’t matter if it has a good plot and good actors.
@@outofcontextscenes it's not just time. It's budget and what would fit with the storyline and what wouldn't. Also the only reason anyone watched endgame was because it was the ENDGAME movie. Everything was building up to that movie
Historians will call neil and todd "really good friends"
PLEASE THIS COMMENT IS SO FUNNY
And they were roomies
@@abirg3686 ohmygod they were roomates
💗💖💖💕💓💓Bestiess💖💖💓💞💓💖💗
I'm sure that's what they also call Alexander Hamilton and Laurens
The place Todd & neil practice Neil's role is the same place todd ran to and fell when he heard about his death. NOW it seems logical why he ran there. HOW COULD THEY CUT IT OUT HOW AND WHY
I have said this same thing so many times! This was VITAL
holy shit
and here we see we were robbed of todd content
@@Augalv what the fuck is up with u
They definitely should have kept the scene where Todd and Neil are reading the lines to each other
soulgraper definitely! Makes sense why he ran to the dock when he found out his death. 😢❤️
Eating with left hand scene was kind of iconic, gives more insight into how "hellton" invaded every little thing about their students in the name of tradition, even with which hand they should use for eating, so glad Charlie stuffing meatball made it lighter xD
They should have left that scene it as it shows how much more of an influence Keating was
@@oaktree1628 I think because of what came before, it wasn't a good idea to have that scene there.
If they were left handed, he wouldn't have objected to it, but they weren't. That's why he forced them to eat with their correct hands.
He did it left handed. That was the point of it, to show that as usual, he was determined to keep pushing boundaries.
@@skippersoup380 the whole point of the scene is them eating with their wrong hand. If you watch, he switches back when the teacher tells him to, then immediately swaps again as soon as Hager is out of sight. I’m aware of the “proper” technique. This is a matter of the boys following Keating and trying new experiences.
I like how at 12:54 Charlie isn't even singing, true to his character
Jim Halpert I noticed that a long time ago.
Damn it, it's Nuwanda.😆
I feel like charlie is the most sensitive and emotional of them all, but he tries his best not to show it
@@awsum_pawsumz he’s definitely not the most sensitive, he’s the strongest and he keeps the “i dont rlly care” act on
@@anabanana8455 being sensitive doesn't equal weak. a person can be both strong AND sensitive
How could they delete these parts? They are so deep and necessary. Oh my
The novel had them all
@@jaelie8398 THERES A NOVEL
@@bookwormballerina53
Yes
They can't put everything in or else the movie would be much longer
@@yonatanschlussel Exactly. How long can the film be? It was already over two hours. Also, some of the stuff was just the same things that were already done in the film to some degree so it wasn't necessary. All films have deleted scenes.
7:34 "FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I FEEL COMPLETELY ALIVE!" - NEIL
IM STILL CRYING! THIS MADE ME FEEL SAD EVEN MORE. he was so happy rehearsing for his audition.
i love Todd and Neil so much. they should’ve kept their bonding sceneee
It made Neil's suicide all the more heartbreaking
i personally think that a lot of the todd scenes should've been kept in becuase it helps develop his character, it was kind of strange to me how he went from basically just a quiet background character to the main after neils death
Todd was always the main character.
@@TrelliessRose no he wasn‘t
@@saragionno8640 ?
@@TrelliessRose Neil had more screentime or even the boy in love(idk his name) Ig thats how it feels like
@@connor3058Knox Overstreet
7:23 "Think about it. Most people, if they're lucky, get to live half an exciting life, right? If i get this part I lived a dozen of great lives. TO BE OR NOT TO BE? THAT IS THE QUESTION."
it such a shame that they deleted this part. The foreshadowing of Neil's death in here is so such. "to be or not to be?" a famous suicide qoute we just got robbed HELLA BAD!
OUCH it would have been perfect
Why did they deleted the scene with Todd and Neil😞. It's the scene where you can see Neil and Todd's friendship growing and the reason why Todd was so devastated after hearing the passing of Neil. It's only around Neil where Todd can actually be so carefree. 😞😞😞
Becuase they didn't need it. They had the scene with the writing set birthday president. And believe it or not, Peter Weir knows more about making movies than you do. And William Anderson knows more about editing movies than you do. That is why they both were nominated for major awards for this movie.
KnickKnack07 damn you didn’t have to go that hard bro. they just liked the scene
@@KnickKnack07 chill, bro😂
KnickKnack07 I think you are taking this comment to seriously.. its kinda pathetic 💀
@@outofcontextscenes That is quit an embarrassing comment for you Mols.
6:42 that was such a touching part. You could really see how badly Neil wanted to be in the play! I wish they redid the movie on the dvd and put that part in.
OMG Yes, please. It's an important part! And we can also know that that's why Todd had run there when he realized that Neil was actually dead... 💔
Yes...you are a better director and editor than the Oscar nominated people who made this movie
KnickKnack07 No one said that, it’s just a shame they didn’t keep a scene like that in
@@KnickKnack07 lol posting this on as many comment threads as you can?
@@KnickKnack07 i mean editor and director don't have a lot to say when the studio makes them cut scenes lol
Many of these deleted scenes are included in a special director's cut of the movie that is rarely seen. I remember ABC broadcasting this movie after its theatrical run, and the version they aired was the director's cut. Many of these deleted scenes help explain later aspects of the film. I don't know why they were ever pulled from the final cut.
Because the film was already over 2 hours. You can't put in every scene.
@@sha11235 cut out the scenes with the chris subplot, that one wasn't very interesting
Ummm. no. It was not the "director's cut" shown on ABC. It was the edited for TV cut that not only removes some scenes for content, but adds some in to make the movie fit into a time window. A director's cut is when a director originally WANTED to have a certain version, but was overridden by a studio, or producer, or whatever. And that is NOT what happened here.
@@winup9417 Well, they wanted to show Knox having some sort of challenge in his life. Had Keating not been around, he might not have tried to pursue Chris and just brushed off his feelings.
I watched the director’s cut for English class and it was my first time watching the movie so I was confused when people said these scenes weren’t in the actual movie
We were robbed of the scene with Todd helping Neil with his lines because not only does it show how their friendship was different from everyone else’s but it also shows the significance of when he dies how Todd runs down to the dock because that was a place where they bonded
He didn't run down to the dock, he just ran down the field.
I think the scene at 11:44 should have stayed in. There were hints that Keating possibly connected with his fellow teacher, such as him sharing tea or the wave he gives as Keating leaves for good. Even at dinner when Keating impresses him with his poetry... "No, Keating." I think this sends the message that even the old folks who maintain the ideas of tradition still have a side of them vulnerable to change. Keating definitely reached this man (I don't know the character's name offhand) even if he didn't completely change his views on education.
Well, we see he did bond with Keating. In the scene after Todd is forced to sign the paper, McAllister, the teacher, is outside with students teaching them terms of the building in Latin, so we see that he did learn a bit from Keating, who he waves to, knowing he is leaving the school.
as much as i agree with you, and i wish they went a bit more into keating and who he had impressed on instead of softly insinuating it or giving little glimpses, i also understand why they didn’t. they wanted the movie to focus as much as they could on the boys and how much keatings teachings effected them and their lives, and ultimately how it could effect anyone, but especially those who are younger, but i definitely feel we were robbed. lol.
I agree. McAllister should have had a bigger roll.
I kind of wish they'd left in the bit with Chris and Ginny. It'd at least add a little bit to Knox's obsession. It seems extremely random otherwise.
Good point. I always thought of it as a strong crush, but you're right. It's a bit like an obsession.
Carly Kirn Yeah, it shows why Chris even went to the play in the first place.
I think they wanted Knox to seem like he was romanticising their 'relationship'
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Plus I’ve always seen Lara Flynn Boyle in the credits but she’s not in the movie. Just this deleted scene.
I like the breaking old habits scene.
eating with left hand
Funny thing: Neil eats with his left hand in the earlier dining room scene.
For Europeans the "correct hand" is weird:
Here, it is: Fork/Spoon = left, Knife = right
Both Neil (Robert Sean Leonard) and Knox ( Josh Charles) are left handed in reality.
@@treenanelson2038 Right, Neil in the early dining room scene is eating with his left hand.
Okay, but in the scene where they go to the dock, when Neil says "I love this", you can hear Todd say "What?Me?". And It warms my heart on so many levels
The transition from Neil saying his father didn't like the idea of him acting one bit to Mr Keating sitting on Neil's chair crying broke me
Same, it hurts
lol im late to this but I think they really should have kept in the scene with Todd and Neil bonding. The way they were so loud and care-free on the dock and being who they wanted to be hit hard. This would have made sense when, after Neil's death, Todd runs to the dock, looking for Neil and for who they both wanted to be.
i wish they kept the part where he shows how much he loves acting when hes learning his lines
Still upset they didn’t leave the scene where Todd find out about neils death and says something like “he’ll beat neil’s dad, next time he seems him and doesn’t care what happens to him.” And where he clearly shows he doesn’t want to and will not sign the paper and spoke how he finally felt, showing he did have it in him and cared about people and is more than just a shy guy who doesn’t know how to stand up for himself
there is a scene like this?? where can i watch it??
@@maryday8539 th-cam.com/video/2Lv6DCkloAM/w-d-xo.html
Tod beating Neil’s dad doesn’t really sound true to Tod’s character.
WHERE IS THAT>!??!?! i need it
He did sign the paper. We just didn't see him sign it.
I feel bad for Todd being afraid to speak.
He stopped tammering when he was a cop in "Training Day".
@@Augalv what the hell is wrong with you?? You are the one who a complete idiot when you said that
@@irayuliana5651 I already deleted my comment. It was out of line. Sorry.
@@Augalv it's okay. I just find that comment really offensive. I appreciate you deleted the comment
@@irayuliana5651 what did she say
7:11
i am fucking sobbing because he was truly finally happy
We'd must convince Peter Weir to release a new blu-ray Director's cut edition with all deleted scenes, edited in (Knox and Chris's kiss after Neil's play included) and possibly dubbed for international markets with same voices.
Definetely like it!
Do you have a link to where Chris/Knox's kiss is? I've never seen that scene before.
HQBacon I never even heard of it.
+Vincent Valensi Along with Neil's funeral where Perry's father scolds Keating.
+HQBacon Cannot remember if I got you an answer about that question: I found that long scene, filmed around the cave, never used anywhere in any theatrical or home edition, as a special bonus special scene on the bluray international release. Hope something will happen soon or later about a new complete, director full cut version of this masterpiece.
8:10 they're so cute im crying
everybody gangsta til one of them falls in
"god i love it!"
"what, me?"
lmao that was probably from ethan hawke himself not in his actual lines
Actually, he says "what, the scene?"
MaMa CriCri it’s about the a m b i g u i t y
@@sonny8686 noo you ruined it but yeah he really says that
@@sonny8686 EU TE ODEIO PQ VC FEZ ISSO COMIGO 😭😭😭😭😭 QUERIA CONTINUAR ACHANDO QUE ERA "WHAT, ME?" A NAO TO TRISTE
I had a poster of Neal against the window at 7:05 and always wondered which scene it was from. Too bad it didn't make the final cut. And Tood's scenes should have remained too.
where did u get it omg
I know it's been 3 years but I need to know as well!
i need one
Oops sorry for replying 3 years later too 😅
It was a professional poster, a plastified and thick paper about 50x30 cm with the name of the film below. I have 5: Neal against the window, Neal backstage before realizing his father is here, the boys running in the woods to the cave with their lamp torches, the boys in the cave and Keating surrounded by the boys.
Three of them are still on the walls of my childhood bedrooms 😄
I found them in a small shop in the South of France, specialized in movie / pop music memorabilia. These posters were used in cinemas to advertise the film. The title is in French “Le Cercle des Poètes Disparus”. The shop is closed now unfortunately.
the majority of these scenes really should have been kept in
I really wish we got more scenes of Todd. Would’ve made his character make a little more sense and also emphasize how he was affected by Neil’s death
neil and todd's doc scene provides so much context for todd running towards the doc when he's sobbing over neil's death. i wish they kept it
Nuwanda stuffing the meatball in his mouth with his left hand perfectly encapsulates his character😆
I mean.. Okay let's say I can accept not seeing all the scenes in the movie.. But the Neil and Todd scene.. I feel beyond robbed.. How could they leave that out?! This scene could be one of the most beautiful ones, what with the two boys bonding and seeing Todd being actually loud for once, and carefree and happy! And Neil so happy, doing what he loves with a person who actually cares about what he wants! There is the tragic foreshadowing when Neil recites Hamlet.. But at that exact moment the characters are happy and we are happy and God! The scene should have been in the film
Aw I wish they'd kept the part where Neil & Todd were bonding some more
the scenes where it is just the boys give me sooooo many marauders vibes it's unreal-especially the one where todd is helping neil with his lines.
Yeah, you see more of his stutter here. He does it a little near the end when he says, "That is not true Cameron and you know it. He didn't put us up to anything. N-Neil loved acting."
I can see that they had to limit the time to some degree, but it all of these scenes all add valuable things to the overall narrative. There had better be an extended cut released soon, or I’ll have to edit it together myself.
You can't use every scene you shoot in a film. Sometimes it slows the film down, as you edit it. Also, you going to release a three hour film of this? Studio won't go for it. It was already over 2 hours to begin with.
These deleted scenes were in the theatrical release in 1989. Not sure why people are acting like they weren't. In the video releases they were left out, but they were in the original theatrical release.
@@lajeteefan That makes sense. Of course, I never saw it in theatres.
@@lajeteefan huhu im two years late, but, is there really no way to watch a cut with all these scenes included? can it not be found anywhere anymore?
all of these scenes would have been terribly impactful it is a huge shame they were cut
The actor who plays Headmaster Mr. Nolan, Norman Long, was 73 during filming and is still alive and acting today at age 98 !!! He was married for 75 years; his wife died in 2011.
His name is Norman *Lloyd* actually, not Long, and he's still alive and working! Wikipedia says "at 103 years of age [he] is the oldest working Hollywood actor as of 2018".
Wowza
Still alive and kicking at 106
still alive
still alive
I love how in the scene by the lake, when Neil brings up girls the conversation drops because they both just KNOW
SPOT on!
2018 and still not over this.
"To be or not to be, that's the question!"- completely loved that part.
Shakespeare Shitspeare
2024 and still not over this
at 12:47 when charlie isn’t singing and he looks genuinely miserable i’m sobbing
The way Charlie just 1000 yard stares as everyone else sings is Haunting. You have to wonder what he must be thinking in that moment, having been one of the Neil's closest friends.
Watching DPS was the best thing that ever happened to me. What's the second, you ask? -this, this video.
-Thank You!
Nuwanda with the meatball!! 😂
i watch the scene at 7:10 eight times per day because its the only thing that makes me enjoy film or living
Nuwanda not participating at all in the funeral service thing hits so hard for some reason
They were all so handsome
None of the scenes deserved to be deleted. Even if this movie was 10 hours longer than it is, all of us would've watched, more excitingly.
aw i really wish the scene of neil + todd running lines had been kept in the movie :’)
i wish i had seen this movie as a boy rather than as a man. It's never too late I suppose, but part of me thinks I might just have been a different man, or at the very least, a different boy.
RiverNickels I don't know about that. I think it is a timeless story.
RiverNickels. I get what u mean.
i agree with you i would have been a different person if i had seen this as a boy
How would you have been different? I’m just curious to see how this movie affected people.
IT's never too late? Are you planning on being a boy again some time soon?
"I love this"
"What, me?"
*THEY'RE BOYFRIENDS*
YESYES
He said ' the scene'
yes🙌🏼
Actually, he says, “What, the scene?”
@@TonguesDeFuego1 Shhhshshshsh let us have this one, please.
“GOD I LOVE IT!”
“what? me?”
ladies and gents, we’ve been robbed
Todd says: "what? The scene?"
@@agustinamansur5665 shhhh
I wish there was a cut with all of the scenes filmed, including these, the scene with Keating joining them in the cave, the scene at Neil's funeral... Etc
The cave scene is on here, but I didn't think it was shot well. I saw the funeral scene in another video on here where a guy is shooting home video of the filming of that.
The dock scene makes me cry bc that’s where Todd ran at the end. He seemed so carefree around Neil, and only around neil
6:32 neils laugh cure all illness in the world
I agree. I wonder if Robert really laughs like that?
@@treenanelson2038 Every part of this is authentic! He confirmed in an interview that Peter Weir didn't;t want them to act, but to be their authentic selves
THESE SCENES ARE LOVELY
the scene where todd and neil are rehearsing lines look like the angry black cat meme
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They should've kept the scene of Neil and anderson talking about how excited he was about acting again because it lets him live dozens of exciting lives. And to show more how close they were.
I liked the blindfolded scene.
I have seen this movie so many times. It's easily one of my all-time favorites. I'm even writing a research paper of sorts about it. SOMEHOW, I've never seen these before! It's an belated birthday and early Christmas present wrapped into one awesome video where Neil performs Shakespeare with Todd and I have never been happier, wow.
Chris' scene made a really big difference, I always though the movie missed some info that that interaction would fill
fun fact: the scene where charlie shoves a meatball in his mouth was unscripted
I watched it first time two days ago, why why I spent whole life to miss such a movie. It’s 2024 already and this is my favorite movie now. Love this movie . I wish Neil was not dead. I wish he could achieve the success
I the shot at 11:00 should have been kept in because it shows how Neil doesn’t want to wake up to his own life. It would help show the audience how trapped in his life he has begun to feel
I just saw this film a few days ago and not only did I feel a strong bond with the boys and as I being an 18 year old guy myself, but especially with Neil as I too want to be an actor and my mom doesn't support me. Unlike Neil's dad however she is ok with me trying it out. When Neil talks about finally finding his passion I related to that so much as I had the exact same euphoric feeling when discovering my passion for acting. This movie made me cry and I'll be a better man and actor for it.
I hope that you accomplish your dreams and you don't let anything stop you from doing so!
@@pertempus Thank you. I really appreciate the support!
Personally I would keep
1:02-2:57 extracurriculars
6:42-7:08 Neil looking out window
7:09-8:15 Neil and Todd
10:00-11:40 Neil and Mr. Keating
12:47-3:10 boys singing at church
14:06-14:20 Mr. Keating and "the death of Neil Perry was a tragedy"
Neil : “I love this!”
Todd : “What? Me?”
Neil : “No acting.”
I’m screaming!!!!!
Also Charlie refusing to sing at church is such a big move and so sad
I understand that the deleted scenes were deleted because the movie would be long and they are unrelated to the plot.
But there's a scene here where Todd helps Neil practice his lines. And that scene definitely affects the plot. This scene explains why Todd ran to the dock when he finds out that Neil killed himself.
The movie of my life.
Amazing, in other words, perfect
7:14 this scene is everything what i wanted to see today I love it! I think if this scene had been in move relationship between neil and todd would have been more developed. In this scene we can see that Todd can be truly himself only if Neili is next to him🥺
The only scenes out of these that I'm glad they didn't use are the ones of them eating with their left hands (although it was pretty funny) and the one where the principle was assigning them their extra-curricular activites
Nir Da Yeah, I think it is better to go right to the scene later that night when Neil goes to Keating about his dilemma he just had with his dad. As to the extracurricular activities scene, it is to show a payoff from the earlier moment when Neil's dad forces him to not take the school annual. That's why Nolan seems surprised-he didn't know about the conflict.
I found the "left hand" and assignment scenes very interesting and revealing. Shows how restrictive not only Neil's home life was, but even the school was dictating their lives. I mean, the school telling you what extra-curriculars you have to do? Wow. Sure, the film is FINE without those two scenes, but had they been included would have brought a stronger insight as to what these boys were going through.
BoltManiac Well, I guess Peter Weir felt it wasn't necessary when he edited the film.
BoltManiac I was thinking about your comment on Nolan assigning the extra-curricular activities. I think he also does it based on what the boys want. Notice when he got to Neil he asked about no school annum, as though Neil had not put it down on his list.
sha11235 I agree sha11235. Somehow i missed the "and desires" part when he explained the process, not to mention the "no school annual" part.
Yep. He did an outstanding job playing the role of Mr. Nolan. I still hate the character of Nolan to this day.
12:04 explains why that teacher looked at Mr. Keating when he left.
7:15 “god, I love this”
“what, me?”
SHUT UP EVERYBODY I’M GONNA CRY ON MY KITCHEN FLOOR
The left hand scene should be included, it has the best lines.
Ohhhh, THIS is where all the awesome scenes from the book came from! Gosh, the book was so much better for having had these!
"I love this"
*"What, me?"*
bella_ isn'tcool they’re in love huh 😔🖐
@@ceci843 yes
I'm crying theyre boyfriends 😭
Todd said: "what? The scene?"
7:14 the scene where Neil and Todd rehearse and Neil screams: “I love this!”. And Todd answers: “What, me?!” OMGGGG IT’S SO CUTEEE ❤❤❤
thank you from the bottom of my heart
0:25.
NEIL: So what do you think of my father?
TODD: You don't want to know.
The DVD doesn't include the deleted scenes. The only time the deleted scenes were shown was in a CBS broadcast of the movie in late 1991 or early 1992. Where can I find them?
i know why they did it but I really wish they didn't delete the scenes with them in the office (it showed how little control Neil had over his life and how much Todd has developed) and the scene between Neil and Todd. That scene showed how close they were and really displayed Neils love for acting. Soo tempted to edit the movie and add these scenes to it lol
WHY WOULD THEY CUT SO MUCH. NOW IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!! I always thought this movie is incomplete. Now i know why 😭😭😭😭
Thanks for posting. I wish they had kept these deleted parts. I particularly like the scene where students wear their eye masks and the line, "words can never contain as much music does the unsayable grace".
there is so much good stuff that'd do wonders for the movie (im not gonna start about Todd and Neil but damn) but the part that killed me the most was definetely the one with eating with left hand. like
1. Knox trying to trash Nolan
2. Charlie looking at Nolan with ABSOLUTE DISGUST
3. Meeks trying his best
4. they all having so much fun
Charlie not singing makes me wanna cry because he looks like he just doesn’t have the energy to do anything.
The spaghetti scene...isn't Robert Sean Leonard left handed in real life?
Yes he is. The actors who played Neil and Knox are both really left-handed.
He's not in the scene, notice? But in the earlier scene in the dining hall we see him eat with his left hand.
I guess so. if you pay attention to his suicide scene he obviously shot himself with his left hand.
Also when doing maths in the common room with the others you can see he’s writing wit the left (if I recall right)
@@sha11235 This was supposed to be right when Neil was speaking to his father and a boy yells "what's for dinner?" "Spaghetti and meatballs"
I love these scenes because it shows more of the interaction between the group that I made me love the movie. Also, love how they touch more on how Mr. Keating reacted to Neil Perry's death. But most of these scenes just make my day and make me smile.
I think 14:24 minutes more in this movie should be there, it’s so important. But I’m such happy that scene when Todd screaming and running after Neil’s dead was in the snow and not in the school like in the book.