I retired after 29 years. Fun facts, in the 1980’s the cars were not air conditioned because the brass thought we wouldn't get out of 9:23 our cars on hot days. All dog squad vehicles were air-conditioned - animal rights thought it was inhumane. Our inner city cars should have had Hobb Meters. The engines would run for a 10 hour shift, travel 15 miles and never get above 40 mph. After 4 years they had 50,000 miles and looked great. The engines were done! They probably had 30,000 HOURS on the motor.
We run a fleet of F150’s with the 5.0, crew cab, short bed, 4wd.. All are marked patrol units and run nearly 24/7, no real issues over the 100k plus some of them had before auctioning them off. Basically they are our “new” CVPI’s
I left the service after they tried to get me into a unibody charger. The CVPI saved my life on numerous occasions over the years. I didn't trust the charger.
I bought a 1998 crown vic new that was supposed to be a detective car. I never paid for a burger again. Try that in a small town. Thank you, East Texas. I've seen the Durango near Houston.
Roman has “no idea” why police use sedans instead of trucks and SUVs. Gee, I don’t know, maybe the taxpayer doesn’t want to foot the bill for the cost of purchasing and fueling this large vehicle when a smaller, more nimble, faster and more fuel efficient vehicle does the trick?
This 100%. And when some overzealous Rosco P. Coltrane decides to go 10-43 on someone who doesn't have current registration on their car, the innocent civilian that gets mowed down at an intersection is less likely to get killled when a lighter patrol car plows into them.
As someone who used to outfit police vehicles, a lot of why they get the sedans>SUVs is the overall cost. The sedans are cheaper to buy and are better in gas milage then the SUVs/Utilities. Keep in mind, they also have to be outfitted and if your a dept that has to buy over 30 cars every year with a budget, you try to go further with that budget. A lot of savings come from how/what they select to outfit the vehicle, custom if you will and will typically be cheaper, but you can also go balls to the walls with options.
Here in South Georgia, there are some small country/rural counties and towns who still use the old 2010-2011 Crown Vics in their fleets. Marion, Webster, Taylor, Sumter, Schley and Macon Counties to name a few.
Our town police got some Charger sedans this year because the PD had trouble getting delivery commitments for Tahoes and Explorers. So the department now has all three (Tahoes, Explorers, and Chargers). No doubt a pain for the department Mechanics. But some of the officers have found they really like the faster, better handling sedans. The county sheriff's department got Durangoes this year, again because they couldn't get delivery commitments for Tahoes or Explorers. Some agencies (most publicly Indiana State Police) have reported significant reliability issues with the V8 Durangoes.
I think the problem with Police wanting sedans is that a truck/suv are more expensive, and look more expensive and like the department is not managing resources properly. I also find sedans more comfortable from sitting low there is less side to side movement over rough terrain or when cornering.
Not sure what Roman means about the Durango. I see them everywhere. Indiana State Patrol just did a big thumb-in-the eye TV circuit on the Durango after buying 520 of them and having 20% out of commission due to oil coolers causing engine failures. In my area, Alaska State Troopers went from being 90% Ford (Crown Vic -> Taurus -> Explorer) to 100% Tahoe. Because the world needs more Troopers driving 13 mpg full-size SUVs. The Tahoes are super-easy to spot, which could not be said for the Explorers, so I am happy as can be.
I'd rather have a sedan over an SUV. They are big, expensive and just more of a pain to drive at high speeds compared to a sedan's low center of gravity. Sure, a new explorer with the twin turbo ecoboost might be the fasted police car in a straight line, but you ever take a corner at high speed in a higher up suv vs a car? Also in some cities, like Pittsburg, it's better to have a lower car because there is a lot of low ceilings, bridges and access areas.
The red light inside a cop car is literally to remain more invisible. Red light can not been seen as far away as a white light, so if a cop is on the side of the road looking for speeders and wants to be stealth, but still have a dome light, they can without as easily being spotted.
@6:00... They won't get rid of the hum for one reason. Blind people rely on it to know not to step into the street. It's the entire reason for the hum. I believe there was a lawsuit involving Toyota and a Prius that hit a blind person in a crosswalk.
My local department want from all explorers to tahoes. Have 2 explorers left for “training”, 1 out of the 2 is used for K-9. Recently added a new Durango as another K-9
I don't see a column transmission shifter. Most public safety agencies require column shift for standardization and ease of use. Even though most Fords, Chevies, and Dodges have dial transmission shifters in their consumer vehicles, police packages are required to have column shifters.
Automotive journalists have been jizzing all over every car with a flat bottom steering wheel for the last 20 years, but now an oval wheel that allows easy entry and exit for first responders offends them. Automotive journalists and their sticky fingers are the reason that cars have touch screens for every effing function, including the headlights in Andre's former Colorado. Automakers needs to listen to consumers who want functionality and ease of use, not blowhards who want an interior to be pretty.
My fire department has had multiple generations of Super Duties and Tahoes plus some Explorers, Expeditions, and F-150s over the years. Getting in and out while wearing firefighting pants is EXTREMELY difficult. This oval steering wheel will be greatly appreciated. These Expedition SSVs are upgraded for emergency equipment, but not rated for pursuits. They're better suited for Fire and EMS services. The F-150 and Tahoe can be ordered with or without pursuit rated packages by emergency agencies.
Watching police chases on YT, it seems the trucks cannot keep up with a lot of suspects no matter what they are driving. The Chargers (of course being phased out) are the last of the police vehicles that are chasing and CATCHING a lot of the suspects.
The money government wastes, expensive and a gas hog. Tax-tax, spend-spend, waste more of your money again! In my area they don't always buy the police version, rather a loaded one with leather and all the options.
Anyone who manages fleets will know that the expedition is not the one to buy high idle hours and turbos don’t mix well nor are they reliable. The only option for most police fleets are going to be a Chevrolet products due to the naturally aspirated V8 that can take that type of abuse. Not to mention all the premature transmission failures and water pump issues that the current generation of explorers have many departments don’t want to buy them anymore.
Not a fan of the steering wheel, dash layout, and the rear end design. I think the Tahoe does a better job in these areas. Should still be a good police vehicle
@@online_now6834 civilian models seem to be doing alright, what are departments finding? Lots of idle time may not be sympathetic, I know the 3.3 NA V6 was always a pretty solid choice and I think it’s still available for departments.
Did you guys after all the blabbering... quote any power figures for the 2025 Ford Expedition Police? Here you go: "Expedition SSVs produce 400 horsepower and 440 pound-feet of torque".
Why buy a sedan? In a 100+mph pursuit, you're less likely to end up on your roof in a sedan than an SUV. For everyone else, the price of Trucks and SUV's are realistically beyond the income of most people who buy them.
@liveonpatrol loves the Durannnngggggooooooo!!!!! They were trying an Explorer but keep going back to the Durango. They feature a Tahoe quite a bit too.
@@ScottPC C&D wrote a piece about that. In part “Blame Franklin D. Roosevelt. Originally, automobile model years tracked calendar years. However, that practice changed in the mid-1930s, after FDR signed an executive order that dictated automakers release their new vehicles in the fall of the preceding calendar year "as a means of facilitating regularization of employment in the [automotive] industry." Auto assembly-line workers are typically idled during a new-model changeover, and the president reasoned that if their idle period were to happen earlier in the fall, autoworkers would be able to maintain employment through the holiday season and would thus be able to spend more money.”
Fun Fact: if a new car model is called a 2026, it would not be allowed to be sold until January 1st 2025. A few years ago, Mazda had to wait to start selling a new model because of this. Another interesting example was the 2002 Cadillac Escalade being released around February 2001.
The fuzz? LOL I just call them police or cops. And they cant catch me so they have to come get me at 7am when I'm on the toilet cuz I'm FAST. LOL seriously i was making fools out of all of them for years. They pulled some CSI bull shit on me and came early in the morning. Block full of em like i was ENEMY NUMBER 1! All that was missing was choppers in the sky. Im dead serious. That day was blown let me tell you.
Tax payers should be up in arms over something like this, no way police should be getting into a $100,000 SUVs which after being converted into proper police vehicles they will be $200,000 vehicles that will be thrown away as soon as they get a dent or flat tire💀
Where are you getting these bloated numbers? There are not $100,000 worth of options in a police vehicle. All they add are lights, a cage, siren box/radio, and maybe a bumper and GPS tracker.
Tell me you don’t know shi abt fk without telling me you know shi abt fk… These are stripped down base models, the up fitting of the vehicles is half the price, I for one will happily want my tax dollars to go to the PDs to have the best equipment for the job, don’t need their cars breaking down on their way to a call…
A pathetic wast of taxpayer dollars. The police should not be chasing anyone. They case more damage and harm than the criminals do. Why do they even need these gas-guzzling behemoth?
The red dome lighting doesn't kill your night vision. Very important for officer safety.
Ford should bring back the Crown Vic
there was a police taurus, but im not sure how well it sold. all non truck/suv models for usa stopped a few years ago in general
@Sir...... I know I'm just saying I wish Ford would bring back the Crown Vic
Caprice with Corvette LT1
@@SquawkCode the state police in my state has a Crown Vic with a Cobra Jet engine in it
Yes, with a 5.0L Coyote and an AWD option but the same basic styling as before.
I retired after 29 years. Fun facts, in the 1980’s the cars were not air conditioned because the brass thought we wouldn't get out of 9:23 our cars on hot days. All dog squad vehicles were air-conditioned - animal rights thought it was inhumane. Our inner city cars should have had Hobb Meters. The engines would run for a 10 hour shift, travel 15 miles and never get above 40 mph. After 4 years they had 50,000 miles and looked great. The engines were done! They probably had 30,000 HOURS on the motor.
Kind of sounds like a great use case for an EV
We run a fleet of F150’s with the 5.0, crew cab, short bed, 4wd.. All are marked patrol units and run nearly 24/7, no real issues over the 100k plus some of them had before auctioning them off. Basically they are our “new” CVPI’s
I left the service after they tried to get me into a unibody charger. The CVPI saved my life on numerous occasions over the years. I didn't trust the charger.
I bought a 1998 crown vic new that was supposed to be a detective car. I never paid for a burger again. Try that in a small town. Thank you, East Texas.
I've seen the Durango near Houston.
When I was a young man, the
Oregon State Police, had a “429 Police iInterceptor” motor under the hood.
It was FAST!
Charger handles high speed pursuits and maneuvers much better than an SUV/Truck with high center of gravity.
As did the Chevy SS (Impala?). The Chevy and the Dodge are no longer in production.
Roman has “no idea” why police use sedans instead of trucks and SUVs. Gee, I don’t know, maybe the taxpayer doesn’t want to foot the bill for the cost of purchasing and fueling this large vehicle when a smaller, more nimble, faster and more fuel efficient vehicle does the trick?
This 100%. And when some overzealous Rosco P. Coltrane decides to go 10-43 on someone who doesn't have current registration on their car, the innocent civilian that gets mowed down at an intersection is less likely to get killled when a lighter patrol car plows into them.
As someone who used to outfit police vehicles, a lot of why they get the sedans>SUVs is the overall cost. The sedans are cheaper to buy and are better in gas milage then the SUVs/Utilities. Keep in mind, they also have to be outfitted and if your a dept that has to buy over 30 cars every year with a budget, you try to go further with that budget.
A lot of savings come from how/what they select to outfit the vehicle, custom if you will and will typically be cheaper, but you can also go balls to the walls with options.
What Sedan tho? None of them are large enough, Taurus is tiny inside, Vic is gone, Chargers are gone...
@fit4ya1975 most of the sedans are from Dodge now. The last time I was an outfitter was back in '16/17.
Look up Move Over Outfitters of Lafayette, IN
Don't tell the Arkansas State Police about sedans as they use them quite a bit. You should go visit them.
Here in South Georgia, there are some small country/rural counties and towns who still use the old 2010-2011 Crown Vics in their fleets. Marion, Webster, Taylor, Sumter, Schley and Macon Counties to name a few.
Down here in Texas we use the trail boss 6.2 L.
Those things look pretty sharp
All those tax dollars paying for the cops to have Pavement Princesses 😂
Drove Crown Vic's during my 20 year LE career, they were terrible in the snow! I would love to have had a 4wd SUV like this!!
exterior looks like a mashup of a Tahoe and a Yukon, which is great. But that dash reminds me of a 2005 Saturn Ion with screens.
Our town police got some Charger sedans this year because the PD had trouble getting delivery commitments for Tahoes and Explorers. So the department now has all three (Tahoes, Explorers, and Chargers). No doubt a pain for the department Mechanics. But some of the officers have found they really like the faster, better handling sedans. The county sheriff's department got Durangoes this year, again because they couldn't get delivery commitments for Tahoes or Explorers. Some agencies (most publicly Indiana State Police) have reported significant reliability issues with the V8 Durangoes.
I think the problem with Police wanting sedans is that a truck/suv are more expensive, and look more expensive and like the department is not managing resources properly. I also find sedans more comfortable from sitting low there is less side to side movement over rough terrain or when cornering.
So?
Not sure what Roman means about the Durango. I see them everywhere. Indiana State Patrol just did a big thumb-in-the eye TV circuit on the Durango after buying 520 of them and having 20% out of commission due to oil coolers causing engine failures.
In my area, Alaska State Troopers went from being 90% Ford (Crown Vic -> Taurus -> Explorer) to 100% Tahoe. Because the world needs more Troopers driving 13 mpg full-size SUVs. The Tahoes are super-easy to spot, which could not be said for the Explorers, so I am happy as can be.
2024 Police budget for City of Denver (just Denver): $270M
…the more you know.
I don’t think these are intended for highway patrol. Ford usually names cars built for pursuit and high speed driving police Interceptors
I'd rather have a sedan over an SUV. They are big, expensive and just more of a pain to drive at high speeds compared to a sedan's low center of gravity. Sure, a new explorer with the twin turbo ecoboost might be the fasted police car in a straight line, but you ever take a corner at high speed in a higher up suv vs a car? Also in some cities, like Pittsburg, it's better to have a lower car because there is a lot of low ceilings, bridges and access areas.
I was surprised to see a mach e patroling my city one night a couple of weeks ago. Must've lost its charge because i haven't seen it since.
The red light inside a cop car is literally to remain more invisible. Red light can not been seen as far away as a white light, so if a cop is on the side of the road looking for speeders and wants to be stealth, but still have a dome light, they can without as easily being spotted.
Cant wait to get pulled over by a 2025 ford expedition ssv 😂
@6:00... They won't get rid of the hum for one reason. Blind people rely on it to know not to step into the street. It's the entire reason for the hum. I believe there was a lawsuit involving Toyota and a Prius that hit a blind person in a crosswalk.
My local police department went from the explorer to the suburban
My local department want from all explorers to tahoes. Have 2 explorers left for “training”, 1 out of the 2 is used for K-9. Recently added a new Durango as another K-9
Taxpayers are buying $80,000 cop cars and SUVs now? Time for DOGE to get to work at the state level as well.
I can see a Tesla Model Y with a Police Package. 😂
They get them at huge discounts
I don't see a column transmission shifter. Most public safety agencies require column shift for standardization and ease of use. Even though most Fords, Chevies, and Dodges have dial transmission shifters in their consumer vehicles, police packages are required to have column shifters.
superfuzz is a great movie from the 80's
Ford all ready had these. But the Tahoe is out selling them.
I think the steering wheel is designed so that the officer can get in and out easily because of all the PPE they have to ware.. just my thoughts...
Automotive journalists have been jizzing all over every car with a flat bottom steering wheel for the last 20 years, but now an oval wheel that allows easy entry and exit for first responders offends them. Automotive journalists and their sticky fingers are the reason that cars have touch screens for every effing function, including the headlights in Andre's former Colorado. Automakers needs to listen to consumers who want functionality and ease of use, not blowhards who want an interior to be pretty.
My fire department has had multiple generations of Super Duties and Tahoes plus some Explorers, Expeditions, and F-150s over the years. Getting in and out while wearing firefighting pants is EXTREMELY difficult. This oval steering wheel will be greatly appreciated.
These Expedition SSVs are upgraded for emergency equipment, but not rated for pursuits. They're better suited for Fire and EMS services. The F-150 and Tahoe can be ordered with or without pursuit rated packages by emergency agencies.
I known the maintenance is gonne be nuts on that well all of them they showed. That steering wheel is odd in my opinion
14760 NYS our local and State police have red, blue or black Durangos.
Watching police chases on YT, it seems the trucks cannot keep up with a lot of suspects no matter what they are driving. The Chargers (of course being phased out) are the last of the police vehicles that are chasing and CATCHING a lot of the suspects.
The money government wastes, expensive and a gas hog. Tax-tax, spend-spend, waste more of your money again! In my area they don't always buy the police version, rather a loaded one with leather and all the options.
Anyone who manages fleets will know that the expedition is not the one to buy high idle hours and turbos don’t mix well nor are they reliable. The only option for most police fleets are going to be a Chevrolet products due to the naturally aspirated V8 that can take that type of abuse. Not to mention all the premature transmission failures and water pump issues that the current generation of explorers have many departments don’t want to buy them anymore.
The transmission was made by Ford and GM
Love it
I like it very nice truck sir 🎉love
Thanks
2:01 Is it me or does the steering wheel look like a sloth?
Not a fan of the steering wheel, dash layout, and the rear end design. I think the Tahoe does a better job in these areas. Should still be a good police vehicle
Police officers should not be subjected to that terrible interior layout and design
Who cares.
LONG LIVE THE V8
That dashboard is hideous
Its a cop car.
@ its the same dash as civilian models…..
Speed of Police vehicles,... not many vehicles can outrun a radio signal! :)
Mustang Gt also.
Can’t wait
My kids and I called them “po-po” not “poo-poo”
man nothing says reliability and durability like a ford twin turbo V6!! 🤣
They are actually very reliable
They’ve been making them since 2011, many have well over 200K on them now.
these will not sell, departments are already disappointed with all the problems coming with from the 3.0 TT in the Explorers-
@@online_now6834 civilian models seem to be doing alright, what are departments finding? Lots of idle time may not be sympathetic, I know the 3.3 NA V6 was always a pretty solid choice and I think it’s still available for departments.
Did you guys after all the blabbering... quote any power figures for the 2025 Ford Expedition Police? Here you go: "Expedition SSVs produce 400 horsepower and 440 pound-feet of torque".
We all know these are not fast. Everyone has seen the video of the Nissan Maxima that was gone in 60 second in a police chase.
Good luck catching my '19 Hyundai Tucson 2.5l AWD 😅
It will be awesome when these are old and sold for cheap.
Come on Ford with the GMC C shaped headlights? Lazy design and didn't even try with this one. 🤔😅
Why buy a sedan? In a 100+mph pursuit, you're less likely to end up on your roof in a sedan than an SUV. For everyone else, the price of Trucks and SUV's are realistically beyond the income of most people who buy them.
We have a lot more Durangos in Ohio and Pennsylvania.
Junk as many departments are dumping them as fast as they can
I dont get pulled over because I obey laws. Imagine that.
@liveonpatrol loves the Durannnngggggooooooo!!!!!
They were trying an Explorer but keep going back to the Durango. They feature a Tahoe quite a bit too.
The Durangos are junk and many departments are dumping them as fast as they can
I don’t get the USA model years… how’s it 2025 when we are in 2024… unless you can time travel.
@@ScottPC C&D wrote a piece about that. In part “Blame Franklin D. Roosevelt. Originally, automobile model years tracked calendar years. However, that practice changed in the mid-1930s, after FDR signed an executive order that dictated automakers release their new vehicles in the fall of the preceding calendar year "as a means of facilitating regularization of employment in the [automotive] industry." Auto assembly-line workers are typically idled during a new-model changeover, and the president reasoned that if their idle period were to happen earlier in the fall, autoworkers would be able to maintain employment through the holiday season and would thus be able to spend more money.”
We’re 2 weeks from 2025.
Fun Fact: if a new car model is called a 2026, it would not be allowed to be sold until January 1st 2025. A few years ago, Mazda had to wait to start selling a new model because of this.
Another interesting example was the 2002 Cadillac Escalade being released around February 2001.
It’s ridiculous how all cops drive these gigantic SUVs. So pointless and wasteful.
The new Expedition in general only looks good from the front. The rest of the exterior and the interior is ugly in my opinion.
The fuzz? LOL I just call them police or cops. And they cant catch me so they have to come get me at 7am when I'm on the toilet cuz I'm FAST. LOL seriously i was making fools out of all of them for years. They pulled some CSI bull shit on me and came early in the morning. Block full of em like i was ENEMY NUMBER 1! All that was missing was choppers in the sky. Im dead serious. That day was blown let me tell you.
Don’t worry folks tax payers will flip the bill!
Sigh. Stupid expensive to buy and operate then the car version. These things are stupid.
Tax payers should be up in arms over something like this, no way police should be getting into a $100,000 SUVs which after being converted into proper police vehicles they will be $200,000 vehicles that will be thrown away as soon as they get a dent or flat tire💀
Kinda sounds like that’s all made up.
Where are you getting these bloated numbers? There are not $100,000 worth of options in a police vehicle. All they add are lights, a cage, siren box/radio, and maybe a bumper and GPS tracker.
$100k??? They are stripped down based model SUVs.
Tell me you don’t know shi abt fk without telling me you know shi abt fk…
These are stripped down base models, the up fitting of the vehicles is half the price, I for one will happily want my tax dollars to go to the PDs to have the best equipment for the job, don’t need their cars breaking down on their way to a call…
Coming to an over funded police department near you!!
This is why we have inflation.
No, this IS inflation.
A pathetic wast of taxpayer dollars. The police should not be chasing anyone. They case more damage and harm than the criminals do. Why do they even need these gas-guzzling behemoth?
I heard that some police departments are using the V8 in the F-150 for their police interceptor vehicle
That’s all we run