Rade is one of the only early pros I've seen actually using card sleeves. I know they only had crap penny sleeves back then, and judges sometimes were suspicious of them, but if he still owns those '94-'95 cards, his bank account is thanking him.
ql Crane , no they’re still just pocket money. Even your ridiculous «30 bucks» is still pocket money, but they’re only 0 bucks except the city of brass at 8 bucks.
@@Skjeggspir Beta lands are about 20 each, and there was definitely at least 1 black bordered Wrath that I saw. These cards have value regardless of what you think.
Unfortunately, the second and third Worlds in '95 and '96 are kind of shady as WOTC solely determined which countries would be allowed to be represented, and they declined numerous requests from other countries' players to participate. There was a sizeable community of international students and/or dual citizens in the US at the time playing MTG who could have carried their country's flags. Sadly this opportunity was lost and so Worlds of 95 and 96 remains an exclusive and privileged non event.
A 4mana 4/5 with side effect is a very big deal that time "ernham djinn" a 4mana 5/5 balduvian horde become top1 on its prime now you can se a 3mana 4/4 and 3 mana 5/4 2mana 3/3 and their only uncommon
When Necropotence came out everyone thought it was a bad card, and even after they realised its power it would take some more years to make a combo with it.
I thought you could only activate it once per (your own) turn, got 2 out of 8 boosters and traded them away for 2 uncommons. Different times, different times
Back then, I traded my Baron Sengir forna playset of force of wills... And i was pissed! I thought i was getting cheated. I thought force of will sucked, but it was in the inquest deck list so i was forced to get them lol. My friends mocked me for losing the Baron too hehe.
If Zoomers didn’t know, it was incredibly easy to cheat in MTG back at it’s Pro scene infancy. People did stack their decks, used actual sleight of hand magic tricks to hide extra cards, purposely marked their cards and used dirty bluffs. Not to mention tons of adderall. Ice Age was notorious for having “lighter blacks” on the print run, and you could easily spot an Ice Age card by just looking at the black frame on the card back. Without sleeves, it made it far more easier to spot. You also had players that would hide key duplicate sideboard cards in their shirt sleeve, pocket, and use a simple party trick and slide it into their hands when needed. There were several known pros caught cheating during this time period of MTG, including Mark Rosewater defending them (IE: spectator games needed a villain).
20:26 Olle targets the Factory worker with Swords to Plowshares, but Mark wrongly puts the Factory in his GY when it's supposed to be exiled from the game. Shambolic.
Oh you thought that was the worst? Check out th-cam.com/video/JZVXIbVmEVA/w-d-xo.html and see Rade play out 8 lands despite playing Stormbind AND playing against Jokulhaups!
He was playing armageddon though. Its the same reason justice is holding back land... Now... holding the COP black in hand is a much tougher thing to explain... DOH!
If Zoomers didn’t know, it was incredibly easy to cheat in MTG back at it’s Pro scene infancy. People did stack their decks, used actual sleight of hand magic tricks to hide extra cards, purposely marked their cards and used dirty bluffs. Not to mention tons of unprescribed adderall (as seen with all the fidgeting and ridiculous amounts of water/soda that they wouldn’t normally drink). Ice Age was notorious for having “lighter blacks” on the print run, and you could easily spot an Ice Age card by just looking at the black frame on the card back. Without sleeves, it made it far more easier to spot. You also had players that would hide key duplicate sideboard cards in their shirt sleeve, pocket, and use a simple party trick and slide it into their hands when needed. There were several known pros caught cheating during this time period of MTG, including Mark Rosewater defending them (IE: spectator games needed a villain).
I believe the rules were different then. Taking an action in 'response' to something was only possible with 'interrupt' cards before the 6th edition rules change. Of course, I didn't start playing until Masques so I might be wrong.
@@deviaan nope, that's incorrect. With the 'batch' you were able to respond with instants and interrupts, but you could only respond on interrupts with interrupts. As soon as nobody wanted to add anything to the batch, you wouldn't have a chance to add any new instants until the batch was fully resolved. So it was different for sure, but not in the way you describe
9:47 “he consults the magic 8 ball”
Truly an art of the magicians of old, lost to time.
The one guy ever to know to sleeve their deck in the 90's
Actually all the guys were using sleeves in casual play and practice matches. In LA we even had special sleeves called Frenchy sleeves.
Rade is one of the only early pros I've seen actually using card sleeves. I know they only had crap penny sleeves back then, and judges sometimes were suspicious of them, but if he still owns those '94-'95 cards, his bank account is thanking him.
Andrew sd I think he's using clear ultra pros
None of those cars are really worth anything even today
Even the lands are like 30 bucks in NA so you are wrong
ql Crane , no they’re still just pocket money. Even your ridiculous «30 bucks» is still pocket money, but they’re only 0 bucks except the city of brass at 8 bucks.
@@Skjeggspir Beta lands are about 20 each, and there was definitely at least 1 black bordered Wrath that I saw. These cards have value regardless of what you think.
Legolas vs Gollum
Maybe I'm prejudging, but that Mark guy definitely looks like the bad guy
He was known as a dueschbag and was a highly suspected cheater. So he was certainly a villain.
@@RellimDaMonkeyMan
*JINO
Man, I used to have those clear ultra-pro sleeves too. Their corners where so sharp that I cut myself on them 2-3 times.
Unfortunately, the second and third Worlds in '95 and '96 are kind of shady as WOTC solely determined which countries would be allowed to be represented, and they declined numerous requests from other countries' players to participate. There was a sizeable community of international students and/or dual citizens in the US at the time playing MTG who could have carried their country's flags. Sadly this opportunity was lost and so Worlds of 95 and 96 remains an exclusive and privileged non event.
This gives me such throwbacks to when I first started playing during ice age
Better coverage than 2018 ?
and 2019, sadly.
@@karimbauer8720 you don't even imagine 2020
@@kelyarsky welcome to 2023
Lol, Beer and no sleeves... yes
those were the days
Feels like pub magic in a way
dat balance was sick!
All
I remember from this period is a guy with a card in his lap, Mike Long!
ya pros bloom player from like KC
A 4mana 4/5 with side effect is a very big deal that time "ernham djinn" a 4mana 5/5 balduvian horde become top1 on its prime now you can se a 3mana 4/4 and 3 mana 5/4 2mana 3/3 and their only uncommon
what if he spilled that on the cards !
2:36 why in gods name did ole NOT cast the COP: Black that turn? He fucking knows justice has hand hate
Dystopia most likely
classic match!!
When did sleeves become common?
When Necropotence came out everyone thought it was a bad card, and even after they realised its power it would take some more years to make a combo with it.
I thought you could only activate it once per (your own) turn, got 2 out of 8 boosters and traded them away for 2 uncommons. Different times, different times
Back then, I traded my Baron Sengir forna playset of force of wills...
And i was pissed! I thought i was getting cheated. I thought force of will sucked, but it was in the inquest deck list so i was forced to get them lol.
My friends mocked me for losing the Baron too hehe.
If Zoomers didn’t know, it was incredibly easy to cheat in MTG back at it’s Pro scene infancy. People did stack their decks, used actual sleight of hand magic tricks to hide extra cards, purposely marked their cards and used dirty bluffs. Not to mention tons of adderall.
Ice Age was notorious for having “lighter blacks” on the print run, and you could easily spot an Ice Age card by just looking at the black frame on the card back. Without sleeves, it made it far more easier to spot. You also had players that would hide key duplicate sideboard cards in their shirt sleeve, pocket, and use a simple party trick and slide it into their hands when needed.
There were several known pros caught cheating during this time period of MTG, including Mark Rosewater defending them (IE: spectator games needed a villain).
Mike Long "perching" in his chair like a bird to intimidate opponents. While also blatantly cheating which was pretty rad.
Why didn't Rade mulligan in the third game? From my understanding, you still got a free mulligan in 1996.
Mark Justice was the Patrick Chapin of yesteryear.
20:26 Olle targets the Factory worker with Swords to Plowshares, but Mark wrongly puts the Factory in his GY when it's supposed to be exiled from the game. Shambolic.
i wonder if thats iced tea or beer lol
bro brought an apple
Rade knows that Mark plays Hymn, but still keeps cards in his hands rather than play them... aaargh it hurts to watch!
Oh you thought that was the worst? Check out th-cam.com/video/JZVXIbVmEVA/w-d-xo.html and see Rade play out 8 lands despite playing Stormbind AND playing against Jokulhaups!
He was playing armageddon though. Its the same reason justice is holding back land...
Now... holding the COP black in hand is a much tougher thing to explain... DOH!
who else had the VHS tape of this?
Mark Justice has some serious ADHD going on. Fidgety little dude.
He was probably nervous because the cameras made it harder to cheat. Justice was one hell of a scumbag.
If Zoomers didn’t know, it was incredibly easy to cheat in MTG back at it’s Pro scene infancy. People did stack their decks, used actual sleight of hand magic tricks to hide extra cards, purposely marked their cards and used dirty bluffs. Not to mention tons of unprescribed adderall (as seen with all the fidgeting and ridiculous amounts of water/soda that they wouldn’t normally drink).
Ice Age was notorious for having “lighter blacks” on the print run, and you could easily spot an Ice Age card by just looking at the black frame on the card back. Without sleeves, it made it far more easier to spot. You also had players that would hide key duplicate sideboard cards in their shirt sleeve, pocket, and use a simple party trick and slide it into their hands when needed.
There were several known pros caught cheating during this time period of MTG, including Mark Rosewater defending them (IE: spectator games needed a villain).
Playing without sleeves omg, it feels odd
why is youtube recommending old ass shit all of a sudden
Because it wants to make you happy.
Does anyone know? Is Rade in the hall of fame? If not... Why?!
He's one of the first players to have been introduced in the Hall of Fame, in 2005.
When Justice strips Rade:s land at 6:20 is it not possible for Rade to sacrifice it to his ZuranOrb?
I believe the rules were different then. Taking an action in 'response' to something was only possible with 'interrupt' cards before the 6th edition rules change. Of course, I didn't start playing until Masques so I might be wrong.
He could have do that, it is/was possible.
He says I'll eat it to the zuran orb
@@deviaan nope, that's incorrect. With the 'batch' you were able to respond with instants and interrupts, but you could only respond on interrupts with interrupts. As soon as nobody wanted to add anything to the batch, you wouldn't have a chance to add any new instants until the batch was fully resolved. So it was different for sure, but not in the way you describe
Justice played so poorly, but he thought he was so good
Can tell instantly by Justice's body language he's a cheater. Keep moving constantly so the cheats are harder to catch.
1:45 🤦
Mwahahaha! (Takes a sip of beer).