One of the best magic products ever released. So sad they stopped that tradition (unlike pokemon that still does these). Those champion decks are such a cool thing and actually a great tool to re-experience the history & evolution of magic the gathering. Hope they gonna make these someday again..!
I am fascinated by this product! I really wish they brought it back :) it would be so good for the game. Unfortunately, if they did, it would be like 400€
I hope one day for gold bordered cards to be tournament legal and for every card to have a gold border. It is by far my favorite border and I'd love to see it pop up in more than the four formats they are legal in.
I think the "not tournament legal" aspect has potential. Those are basically wotc printed proxies. The answer is of course to print your own if they refuse to do so. But it's less cool, those look really fancy.
@@olivergre1054 Seems like Tolarian Acadmey decks wouldn't care much about an Oko deck or their interaction, given how fast they can win. Nizzahon Magic did a great TH-cam video on some of the top banned standard decks, would recommend watching.
You think like we do! As we filmed 5 videos of this with Frank :) we'll be releasing one a month. If they do well, we'd love to do one for every year of magic's history
I really appreciate that you explain The Batch - it was honestly something I never really understood since I started playing more seriously when the Stack was introduced.
The Recurring nightmare deck reminds me a lot of Pioneer Greasefang. and the game had the same motions as greasefang vs. mono red. So much has changed in MTG yet the decks today have the same silhouette as these classics.
I think it has a much cooler toolbox of nonsense, probably because the creatures are overall weaker so you get to play more tricky interactions. And of course survival means you get to play a lot of one off answers.
I love this! Old magic content with y’all’s level of production quality is so rare. What a sad thing that wizards stopped printing world championship decks. I had some of the individual cards as a kid and gold boarders were the only way I could afford to experience powerful magic.
I love this video! Brian Selden's deck left a huge impression on me as a kid; it was the first time I'd seen that "toolbox" approach to deck building and a mana base that could support 5 colours. Wish they'd bring back the world championship decks, it's such a good way to introduce people to competitive play.
This is so much fun. I've seen these decks around back in the day, but unfortunately never got them. Nice to see them in action. It's kinda funny, it's like Hazored VS birthing pod.
Back when I started in odyssey a friend had all these in real cards and we played a lot of games against them using my standard deck. Survival always blew my mind with how powerful it was. He had an answer for everything. Never won against that one or any of them but it really drew me in with how someone could construct decks like that that could basically blank out everything. The combo decks from back then while they weren’t fast by today’s standards were very interesting to watch and gave you a sense of false hope that you could pull out - until the 7/7 hit the board and even if you could remove it just came back.
I remember as it was yesterday, Cursed Scroll was the most wanted card of T2 in the day, amazing to see this kind of content. Excellent stuff, congrats! =)
Bring us more of these! This was awesome to see! My fondest memory of these was a red-green deck from 2000 that introduced me to Plow Under, a vicious spell that would somehow both manascrew and manaflood an opponent at the same time.
This was so fun to watch, so much nostalgia. I'm so glad I got to play early enough to acquire some of these powerful cards. If I had been a competitive player back then I 100% would've played Brian's decklist, It has all my favorites. Can't wait to see the rest of the series showing off the rest of the decks. Thank you Ralph for your contribution.
Yes! More historical content. I didn't even recognize the interaction between the saproling tokens and Recurring Nightmare before Jamin did it. Oof, that is one sticky creature!
I'm thrilled that you enjoyed it :) and you couldn't know at the time that these would be expensive/nostalgic. It's a thing about the good old days. You never know that they are the good old days until it's too late :)
Love seeing these old games coming back to life in modern times. Started playing at the end of '93. Sadly no longer have the champion deck Jamin was using so it's good to see it here. Fun.
These sets were around the time I got into MTG so this just sent me on a massive nostalgia trip. I couldn't stop smiling seeing some of the plays I used to see at FNM back in the day.
Truly classic Magic - love it! Thank you for this awesome blast from the past. Love it, and Frank brings a real understanding of what classic Magic is like. Love it!
I'm thrilled you enjoyed this one :) we filmed a series of them with Frank and will be releasing a new one every 3-4 weeks. Hopefully we'll have one for every year eventually
@@CardmarketMagic that's awesome! I really appreciate that your channel is both excited about new Magic but also shows genuine love for previous generations of the game. It's special.
Another rule that was changed just before these championship decks were made - there used to be a step during combat where you could activate instant speed effects after combat damage was assigned but before damage was delt. That meant Mog Fanatic could kill 2 toughness creatures, or 2 for 1 with two 1 toughness creatures and is a major reason why the combat rules were changed.
Oh man.. I had both of these when I was growing up. Really wish I knew what happened to my old collection between all the moves my family did when I was young. The recurring nightmare deck especially made me so nostalgic sitting in my bedroom trying to understand all the pieces. So cool to see them played at such a high level! Edit: also, I'm loving this history + gameplay format. Super fun and interesting.
If these do well, I'd really like to do one of these for every year! And don't forget to thank Ralph :) he reached out to us offering to lend us his worlds decks and that's what gave me the idea for this series (we'll have 4 more coming out in the next months)
How is this not the menu for every stream out there? Provide all information you need and does not overcrowded the screen. Displays triggers when they occur which allows the viewer to follow along with combos. Looks clean as hell and isn't obtrusive of the play field. Hats off to whoever designed it
the first sentence brought me to tears... there really was a time before magic arena and it was amazing. It started for me in what must've been 2000-2002 and my mom bought be a pack of cards that came with a foil thorn elemental and a pc version of the game to finally teach me how to play the game I'd been collecting lmao. Even the duels of the planeswalkers releases take a shit on arena. The video is paused at 0:06 and I really don't think I need to finish it. There was a time before arena - RIP every magic player born 30+ years ago, 2 weeks ago.
the old days of magic the gathering. very nostalgic-feeling, even though i wasn't there during the inception of mtg. thank you for more history lessons, cardmarket!
I played back then. It was a great time in the game, with no Universes Beyond muddling the experience. BTW, we didn't call it Standard. It was Type 2. Type 1.5 was basically Modern, IIRC. Type 1 was akin to Vintage, which is how my friends and I played before EDH was invented - 60 card, Type 1. We played Multiplayer and Duels with the same deck.
These retro videos are great! Obviously I'm biased because this is the Magic I learned to play growing up: I remember buying the French equivalent of Duelist magazine to understand how the stack worked and I'm still conditioned to think about creatures' P/T & CMC as basically "needing to be balanced" (and the way that was done back then looks insane now, 11 year old me was stoked to have Balduvian Horde in his deck lol). Great work as always guys. Loved Frank's chill professorial vibes and Jamin's glee at the deck popping off. And kudos on the editing, it just keeps getting better and better.
this is like candy for me. your videos are always fantastic, but this might be my favorite since temurgy versus prismatic black! bringing frank karsten on is always a delight, and old magic makes me so engaged and interested. great work!
I'm thrilled you enjoyed it :) we filmed 5 of these with Frank that I will be working on in the upcoming months. If they do well, I hope to do one for every year
I can't describe how much I love all the videos that you guys make that have to do with the history of the game. Please never stop, you are killing it!
My favourite story of Mono red was when my favourite TH-cam Channel from Berlin played a deck full of little monkés against a deck full of thunderbolts 🎉
This was the format I started playing in! I started buying magic cards with Ice Age and Alliances and I remember loving the new sets of Mirage Visions and Weatherlight Tempest so much. Back in the day when a Hammer of Bogardan cost more than a Force of Will, we played with real creatures! None of this hand-holding where everything has an ETB and 3 upsides 😂
Das ist Nostalgie pur! Danke für das Video. Das Ruben Deck hatte ich damals (auch golden umrahmt), ich spielte es gerne gegen Schulfreunde. Damals bekam ich die sammelsucht aufgrund dieses Decks...und diese sucht fällt bis heute an. Leider wurde es durch einen Wasserschaden in meinem damaligen Elternhaus mit meiner damaligen kleinen Sammlung zerstört. Aber dank des Ruben Decks lernte ich Magic bis heute lieben.
I am very glad u cover classic mtg. The footage is mostly lost so it is nice to see what it was like back then. The origins of anything are usually very interesting.
@@CardmarketMagic I saw that in the comments from previous replies. That is super cool. This will fill the void from the best standard deck ever series well.
That recurring nightmare deck is beautiful. It makes me sad that the power creep is so bad that this deck is basically unplayable now. All of the OP cards are taking the fun and cool simple interaction away. Now a 1 mana drop has a whole book worth of text. No more vanilla creatures being created. Mtg is more confusing than ever because they just have to keep coming up with wacky mechanics that are essentially a reskinned version of older mechanics. This was really enjoyable game play to watch.
You should check out Premodern, Survival and Nightmare are both legal and so are gold-border cards. Middleschool is another format that focuses on the same era with a different ban list.
I adore these type of videos. Such a blast from the past and a way to appreciate where we are in the game and how we got here. Keep up the excellent work team!
I still have a boat load of my World Championship Deck cards sleeved up in my cube. Plenty of those gold bordered Wastelands floating around in commander decks as well haha
I remember buying the Duelist issue that showcased the Sligh deck and outlined the mana curve. It changed my life. I reread it dozens of times. There was an offhand sentence about altering the mana curve for other decks and it was just as revolutionary as you say
My favorite thing about the world champs was watching all the old replays of crazy plays on TH-cam when I was just getting into magic. Stuff like surviving 5 ignite memories triggers, winning against Necropotence on a bad mull with multiple Unmasks from the opp, Char the face and flip a burn spell, it's weird thinking about how I was barely alive if that when they happened but they still left a lasting impact on magic as a whole.
my dad had all these decks and they were a HUGE part of him teaching me to play magic as a kid! crazy watching someone who really knows what theyre doing piloting that nightmare/survival deck and remembering 6 year old me just randomly playing cards lmao
Looking forward to the next ones! Very fun games to watch and it was quite interesting to see Frank talk about "the batch"! I only ever got to know the stack (including damage on the stack!) and I wondered at about 20:17 whether Jamin couldnt have logged the damage in and then gained the life afterwards because I misremembered when damage on the stack was a thing.
We are trying to do a whole series with Frank where we do one video for each year :) hopefully you'll see some great damage-on-the-stack interactions in the next ones
Ever since I learned about Sligh as a deck archetype, it's become my favorite way of playing modern. My pet deck, Mono Red Obosh, is made mostly in tribute to Paul Sligh and his genius deck construction back in the day. It'd be so cool to get the deck its famous for!
My favorite Mono red deck I played was my friends Goblins to the face deck. It was back in 2015 or so, there was nothing too special about the deck, but I was still able to place at the first tournament I entered. It left a long love for TCG, collecting, and learning about the game.
In case anybody is interested, you can delve into Premodern, where all this cards are legal (including the Gold Border versions, as it is aan unsanctioned format) and gameplay is very similar. A great format if you want to experience old Magic!
20:59 I was wondering if you guys would miss this rule change. In 1998 damage goes on the stack. The spike feeder could deal it's damage, killing the orc, and then remove it's counters killing itself and leaving damage on the stack. Mogg fanatic worked the same way, so it could deal combat damage and still sacrifice itself to deal 1 more. I dunno when, but it had changed when I started playing again after taking years off -edit- i just saw the explanation of the "batch". It's funny because we didn't play that way. We played the way the stack works now. Everywhere I played in BC and Ontario in the '90s played with the stack, we called it that too
I was six years old when these decks duked it out for the World Championship, and we already had The Stack when I started playing the game years later. So it's really cool to get to see what the game played like back then. This was a hell of a watch. Thanks, guys! Loved this, and would love to see more of it.
I really enjoy y’alls channel. It’s a breathe of fresh air to have a channel that isn’t just constant negativity. I’ve found a few lately, and it’s much more enjoyable content.
I absolutely love that Jackal Pup, a creature that burns you when it's hit, was the Ragavan of its day. This back in time series with hall of famer Dr. Karsten is such a treat.
Just yesterday I was thinking about pre-2000 decks and wondering if you guys would make a video about it. What can i say my dream came true. Seeing a recurring survival deck in action was awesome. Thank you guys.❤
I had a chance to play on this decks back in the day, gold era of Magic! Survival it’s a control deck where you control the board with your creatures. On game 3 would be nice to bring the orcs to destroy the lands and stop the fireblast!!!
I would love to have Sam Black in the studio! But that would currently be rather expensive as flights from the US to Berlin are not cheap 😅 still, I have premodern in my list of upcoming video ideas :) I just want to make sure we do it right
My monored story started with me finally doing good enough with my kolaghan deck in a fate reforged fnm to win a promo goblin rabblemaster. I remember going home, and making a deck with all these goblin cards, imagining a comical horde of little guys, with cards like roast and hordeling outburst to back them up. I used it against my friends and always had fun making the board, even if i didnt usually win.
Wow, The recurring nightmare deck looks so fun to play ! i love survive of the fittest who can tutor any creature you need and prepare big ones in GY at a same time that's so sweet !
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So you can’t enter if you are in the us because it’s not an option so I can’t make an account
wow! Nice episode but unfortunate the thing won't even let you create an account if you aren't in the EU.
I hope you do a "Who can die first" video like your Yugioh Channel did, it was very fun.
I still have a copy of the Rec Sur deck that I picked up at the time. I suppose it would be nice to try the other deck too.
Old Magic *and* Frank Karsten? You've made my day!!
We filmed a whole series of these :) so hopefully we'll be making a few more of your days in the upcoming months
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@@CardmarketMagic a whole series? I'm stoked
Neat!
@@CardmarketMagic YESSSSS let’s goooo thank you Carl/Jamin
One of the best magic products ever released. So sad they stopped that tradition (unlike pokemon that still does these). Those champion decks are such a cool thing and actually a great tool to re-experience the history & evolution of magic the gathering. Hope they gonna make these someday again..!
I am fascinated by this product! I really wish they brought it back :) it would be so good for the game. Unfortunately, if they did, it would be like 400€
@@CardmarketMagicNo kidding. I wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to sell Championship boosters (Talrand included).
@@diabeticmonkeystandard decks these days are just that expensive
I hope one day for gold bordered cards to be tournament legal and for every card to have a gold border. It is by far my favorite border and I'd love to see it pop up in more than the four formats they are legal in.
I think the "not tournament legal" aspect has potential. Those are basically wotc printed proxies. The answer is of course to print your own if they refuse to do so. But it's less cool, those look really fancy.
I loved the best of standard decks played in worlds. I would like to see the best banned standard deck of all time
We'll be doing something similar next year, but we'll have our subscribers vote for the best deck of each year :) including banned ones
I'd love for it to last all year, or maybe an additional video per week of a tournament bracket
That would be Oko Eldraine whatever. Insanely ahead of everything else,
@@CardmarketMagic I hope to see my favorite deck Green/White Slide from Julien Nuijten make an appearance some time.
@@olivergre1054 Seems like Tolarian Acadmey decks wouldn't care much about an Oko deck or their interaction, given how fast they can win.
Nizzahon Magic did a great TH-cam video on some of the top banned standard decks, would recommend watching.
The 4 turn win with the red deck game 2 made my inner red player shed a tear
It goes to show that, even in a terrible match-up, the red deck can always sneak in a win :)
YES! More of the early days of Magic. These "Flashback" episodes are an absolute treat!
1998 isn’t early. I was playing in 1994
I love how chill and knowledgeable Karsten is. He's my favorite Wall of Famer.
shouts out to Ralph and Frank. gaming history is too often taken for granted, glad to see people dedicated to maintaining and sharing it.
Thanks 😊
Frank is great everyone knows that, but Ralph is a true MVP for reaching out to lend us these cards. We were so excited to receive the decks!
Frank Karsten was fantastic, I loved his input and contextualization that he brought. Love to see this as a series!
You think like we do! As we filmed 5 videos of this with Frank :) we'll be releasing one a month. If they do well, we'd love to do one for every year of magic's history
I really appreciate that you explain The Batch - it was honestly something I never really understood since I started playing more seriously when the Stack was introduced.
The Batch is weird. It's more like YuGiOh's Chains than modern Stacks, but still has a bunch of weird interactions that break that comparison too.
The Recurring nightmare deck reminds me a lot of Pioneer Greasefang. and the game had the same motions as greasefang vs. mono red. So much has changed in MTG yet the decks today have the same silhouette as these classics.
Greasefang is my recurring nightmare
I think it has a much cooler toolbox of nonsense, probably because the creatures are overall weaker so you get to play more tricky interactions. And of course survival means you get to play a lot of one off answers.
Your channel is a gift that keeps on giving. Please keep doing your thing. More retro Magic! More Frank!
We filmed a whole 5 video series on this with Frank:) I hope you enjoy the next 4 through the following months
@@CardmarketMagic Can't wait for it !
Man, Recurring of the Fittest is such a messed up combo XD
Great video as always and great to see Frank back :3
I absolutely love these historic matches and seeing Frank deftly explain the history and nuisances of the game from that time. More please!
We filmed 5 videos with Frank :) hopefully you enjoy the next 4 we will be releasing through the next few months
@@CardmarketMagic Holy shit I instantly subbed reading that
I love this! Old magic content with y’all’s level of production quality is so rare. What a sad thing that wizards stopped printing world championship decks. I had some of the individual cards as a kid and gold boarders were the only way I could afford to experience powerful magic.
I love this video! Brian Selden's deck left a huge impression on me as a kid; it was the first time I'd seen that "toolbox" approach to deck building and a mana base that could support 5 colours. Wish they'd bring back the world championship decks, it's such a good way to introduce people to competitive play.
This is so much fun. I've seen these decks around back in the day, but unfortunately never got them. Nice to see them in action.
It's kinda funny, it's like Hazored VS birthing pod.
Videos like this is exactly what mtg was missing. Keep it up!
We will! :) we recorded 5 of these with Frank, 4 more will be published in the upcoming months
I love watching these videos with old decks. Seeing magic with fair cards is so refreshing.
Back when I started in odyssey a friend had all these in real cards and we played a lot of games against them using my standard deck. Survival always blew my mind with how powerful it was. He had an answer for everything. Never won against that one or any of them but it really drew me in with how someone could construct decks like that that could basically blank out everything. The combo decks from back then while they weren’t fast by today’s standards were very interesting to watch and gave you a sense of false hope that you could pull out - until the 7/7 hit the board and even if you could remove it just came back.
I had all of these cards, sold some on Ebay in the early 2000's, I'm afraid to look at the prices now and see how much money I lost selling them
Recurring Nightmare and Survival of The Fittest is truly the best combo ever, you feel like a god when you're using Brian's deck, it's crazy.
I remember as it was yesterday, Cursed Scroll was the most wanted card of T2 in the day, amazing to see this kind of content. Excellent stuff, congrats! =)
Great video! I always love old standard content, but the added bonus of frank karstens mtg historical knowledge is just amazing!
Bring us more of these! This was awesome to see!
My fondest memory of these was a red-green deck from 2000 that introduced me to Plow Under, a vicious spell that would somehow both manascrew and manaflood an opponent at the same time.
We will hopefully be doing one of these for every year :)
Big kudos to the person who not only loaned the decks but also was cool with playing sleeveless. Really brings back the nostalgia. Thank you
This was so fun to watch, so much nostalgia. I'm so glad I got to play early enough to acquire some of these powerful cards. If I had been a competitive player back then I 100% would've played Brian's decklist, It has all my favorites. Can't wait to see the rest of the series showing off the rest of the decks. Thank you Ralph for your contribution.
Yes! More historical content.
I didn't even recognize the interaction between the saproling tokens and Recurring Nightmare before Jamin did it. Oof, that is one sticky creature!
Oh wow this is a TRIP
I started in 1997, this is really cool to see again! I wish I had kept that Championship deck though lol
I'm thrilled that you enjoyed it :) and you couldn't know at the time that these would be expensive/nostalgic. It's a thing about the good old days. You never know that they are the good old days until it's too late :)
Love seeing these old games coming back to life in modern times. Started playing at the end of '93. Sadly no longer have the champion deck Jamin was using so it's good to see it here. Fun.
This is very indicative of how these games would often go, and brings back a lot of memories of playing with these special decks. Thanks for these.
These sets were around the time I got into MTG so this just sent me on a massive nostalgia trip. I couldn't stop smiling seeing some of the plays I used to see at FNM back in the day.
Truly classic Magic - love it! Thank you for this awesome blast from the past. Love it, and Frank brings a real understanding of what classic Magic is like. Love it!
I'm thrilled you enjoyed this one :) we filmed a series of them with Frank and will be releasing a new one every 3-4 weeks. Hopefully we'll have one for every year eventually
@@CardmarketMagic that's awesome! I really appreciate that your channel is both excited about new Magic but also shows genuine love for previous generations of the game. It's special.
That was a really neat video! It's cool seeing what Magic was like before I started playing in 2004.
I really enjoyed listening and learning about the old rules! Learning about the batch was absolutely fascinating
Another rule that was changed just before these championship decks were made - there used to be a step during combat where you could activate instant speed effects after combat damage was assigned but before damage was delt.
That meant Mog Fanatic could kill 2 toughness creatures, or 2 for 1 with two 1 toughness creatures and is a major reason why the combat rules were changed.
Oh man.. I had both of these when I was growing up. Really wish I knew what happened to my old collection between all the moves my family did when I was young. The recurring nightmare deck especially made me so nostalgic sitting in my bedroom trying to understand all the pieces. So cool to see them played at such a high level!
Edit: also, I'm loving this history + gameplay format. Super fun and interesting.
I'm happy you like it! We made 5 videos for 5 different years with Frank and I hope you enjoy the next ones as well :D
Whoooa! That's the kind of videos TH-cam was made for! 👌 Super nostalgia, keep 'em coming!
I'm SO EXCITED to watch Jamin play with my favourite deck ever lol.
He's going to be SO happy with it.
So this was awesome.... 😍 Thanks Carl for making this happen. And thanks to Frank and Jamin for the piloting and the context of the era. 🎉
If these do well, I'd really like to do one of these for every year! And don't forget to thank Ralph :) he reached out to us offering to lend us his worlds decks and that's what gave me the idea for this series (we'll have 4 more coming out in the next months)
How is this not the menu for every stream out there? Provide all information you need and does not overcrowded the screen. Displays triggers when they occur which allows the viewer to follow along with combos. Looks clean as hell and isn't obtrusive of the play field. Hats off to whoever designed it
Thank you :) it took me a lot of trial and error through many videos, but I'm broud of what it looks like now
the first sentence brought me to tears... there really was a time before magic arena and it was amazing. It started for me in what must've been 2000-2002 and my mom bought be a pack of cards that came with a foil thorn elemental and a pc version of the game to finally teach me how to play the game I'd been collecting lmao. Even the duels of the planeswalkers releases take a shit on arena. The video is paused at 0:06 and I really don't think I need to finish it. There was a time before arena - RIP every magic player born 30+ years ago, 2 weeks ago.
the old days of magic the gathering. very nostalgic-feeling, even though i wasn't there during the inception of mtg. thank you for more history lessons, cardmarket!
We filmed 5 videos about these with Frank :) we'll be releasing them in the next few months. I hope you enjoy the next 4 as well!
@@CardmarketMagic i'm sure i will!
I played back then.
It was a great time in the game, with no Universes Beyond muddling the experience.
BTW, we didn't call it Standard. It was Type 2.
Type 1.5 was basically Modern, IIRC.
Type 1 was akin to Vintage, which is how my friends and I played before EDH was invented - 60 card, Type 1.
We played Multiplayer and Duels with the same deck.
These retro videos are great! Obviously I'm biased because this is the Magic I learned to play growing up: I remember buying the French equivalent of Duelist magazine to understand how the stack worked and I'm still conditioned to think about creatures' P/T & CMC as basically "needing to be balanced" (and the way that was done back then looks insane now, 11 year old me was stoked to have Balduvian Horde in his deck lol). Great work as always guys. Loved Frank's chill professorial vibes and Jamin's glee at the deck popping off. And kudos on the editing, it just keeps getting better and better.
Merci :) c'est gentil de ta part! J'ai vraiment apprécier éditer cet épisode! Et c'est toujours in plaisir d'avoir Frank à Berlin
this is like candy for me. your videos are always fantastic, but this might be my favorite since temurgy versus prismatic black! bringing frank karsten on is always a delight, and old magic makes me so engaged and interested. great work!
I'm thrilled you enjoyed it :) we filmed 5 of these with Frank that I will be working on in the upcoming months. If they do well, I hope to do one for every year
@@CardmarketMagic Amazing! I cant wait to watch them :)
Old school Magic? Subscribed!
I can't describe how much I love all the videos that you guys make that have to do with the history of the game. Please never stop, you are killing it!
Thank you
My favourite story of Mono red was when my favourite TH-cam Channel from Berlin played a deck full of little monkés against a deck full of thunderbolts 🎉
Hahahaha good times :) I'm happy you enjoyed it
Player here from 94...thank you for showcasing our gameplay from back then
Thank you Ralph! Ur a legend ❤
Ralph is such a champ :) we are so happy we got to record these (there are 4 more videos upcoming in the following months)
Aw❤ thanks!
@@CardmarketMagic That is awesome! Cant wait to see them! Keep up the amazing work guys
@@ralr
This was the format I started playing in! I started buying magic cards with Ice Age and Alliances and I remember loving the new sets of Mirage Visions and Weatherlight Tempest so much. Back in the day when a Hammer of Bogardan cost more than a Force of Will, we played with real creatures! None of this hand-holding where everything has an ETB and 3 upsides 😂
I traded away two force of wills for almost nothing. Nobody cared about them. We were all like "discard a whole extra card? Hell no"
Das ist Nostalgie pur! Danke für das Video. Das Ruben Deck hatte ich damals (auch golden umrahmt), ich spielte es gerne gegen Schulfreunde. Damals bekam ich die sammelsucht aufgrund dieses Decks...und diese sucht fällt bis heute an. Leider wurde es durch einen Wasserschaden in meinem damaligen Elternhaus mit meiner damaligen kleinen Sammlung zerstört. Aber dank des Ruben Decks lernte ich Magic bis heute lieben.
I am very glad u cover classic mtg. The footage is mostly lost so it is nice to see what it was like back then. The origins of anything are usually very interesting.
THIS IS SUCH AN AWESOME IDEA FOR A VIDEO FORMAT!!!! THANK YOU CARDMARKET!!!
I'm happy you enjoyed it :) we recorded 4 more of these with Frank, they'll be released in the following months
@@CardmarketMagic I saw that in the comments from previous replies. That is super cool. This will fill the void from the best standard deck ever series well.
That recurring nightmare deck is beautiful. It makes me sad that the power creep is so bad that this deck is basically unplayable now. All of the OP cards are taking the fun and cool simple interaction away. Now a 1 mana drop has a whole book worth of text. No more vanilla creatures being created. Mtg is more confusing than ever because they just have to keep coming up with wacky mechanics that are essentially a reskinned version of older mechanics. This was really enjoyable game play to watch.
You should check out Premodern, Survival and Nightmare are both legal and so are gold-border cards. Middleschool is another format that focuses on the same era with a different ban list.
Love seeing Karsten back on the channel, love his knowledge of magic from the beginning years!!
Frank is great :) we filmed 5 videos like this with him I hope you'll enjoy them, we'll be publishing them every 3-4 weeks
I adore these type of videos. Such a blast from the past and a way to appreciate where we are in the game and how we got here. Keep up the excellent work team!
Thank you :) I'm happy you enjoyed it
Always a pleasure to see Frank !
It is :)
I still have a boat load of my World Championship Deck cards sleeved up in my cube. Plenty of those gold bordered Wastelands floating around in commander decks as well haha
Absolutely love these types of videos and always love to see Frank on the channel!
We recorded 5 of these with Frank :) hopefully you also enjoy the next 4 that will be released in the next months!
Back when I first heard of magic when I was a young boy... it was a magical time thx for bringing me back to that time :)
You are welcome :) it was nostalgic for us as well (except for Jamin, he is so young 😅)
I had no clue about the batch. Very much like Yu-Gi-Ohs chains super cool. This was a great episode and trip through mtg history
Those contents about the history of competitive magic are exactly what we need.
i love this format! please more of this :D
We filmed 5 videos of this with Frank :) I hope you enjoy the next 4 we'll be releasing through the following months
I remember buying the Duelist issue that showcased the Sligh deck and outlined the mana curve. It changed my life. I reread it dozens of times. There was an offhand sentence about altering the mana curve for other decks and it was just as revolutionary as you say
I boggled when I saw the "Art of Beatdown", that was it. That's the article that made me a mythic green player
This was simply beautiful.
My favorite thing about the world champs was watching all the old replays of crazy plays on TH-cam when I was just getting into magic. Stuff like surviving 5 ignite memories triggers, winning against Necropotence on a bad mull with multiple Unmasks from the opp, Char the face and flip a burn spell, it's weird thinking about how I was barely alive if that when they happened but they still left a lasting impact on magic as a whole.
my dad had all these decks and they were a HUGE part of him teaching me to play magic as a kid! crazy watching someone who really knows what theyre doing piloting that nightmare/survival deck and remembering 6 year old me just randomly playing cards lmao
I just got done reading that romcom MTG Manga (that was more like a meta retrospective tbh) and its feels nice seeing "familiar" names
Looking forward to the next ones!
Very fun games to watch and it was quite interesting to see Frank talk about "the batch"! I only ever got to know the stack (including damage on the stack!) and I wondered at about 20:17 whether Jamin couldnt have logged the damage in and then gained the life afterwards because I misremembered when damage on the stack was a thing.
We are trying to do a whole series with Frank where we do one video for each year :) hopefully you'll see some great damage-on-the-stack interactions in the next ones
@@CardmarketMagic Sounds fun! Sometimes I miss it even though it was all kinds of weird and I now think the game is better off without it :D
Ever since I learned about Sligh as a deck archetype, it's become my favorite way of playing modern. My pet deck, Mono Red Obosh, is made mostly in tribute to Paul Sligh and his genius deck construction back in the day. It'd be so cool to get the deck its famous for!
I love these "flashback" games from the old days. Please do more of these!
We filmed 5 of these with Frank in total that we will be releasing in the next months :) if they do well, we'd like to do one for every year
Some great oldschool magic. :D
Watching someone monkey a scroll brings back some seriously nostalgic memories. Loved this episode so much!
This was great! I remember playing a version of this back in '99-00.
My favorite Mono red deck I played was my friends Goblins to the face deck. It was back in 2015 or so, there was nothing too special about the deck, but I was still able to place at the first tournament I entered. It left a long love for TCG, collecting, and learning about the game.
In case anybody is interested, you can delve into Premodern, where all this cards are legal (including the Gold Border versions, as it is aan unsanctioned format) and gameplay is very similar. A great format if you want to experience old Magic!
20:59 I was wondering if you guys would miss this rule change. In 1998 damage goes on the stack. The spike feeder could deal it's damage, killing the orc, and then remove it's counters killing itself and leaving damage on the stack. Mogg fanatic worked the same way, so it could deal combat damage and still sacrifice itself to deal 1 more. I dunno when, but it had changed when I started playing again after taking years off
-edit- i just saw the explanation of the "batch". It's funny because we didn't play that way. We played the way the stack works now. Everywhere I played in BC and Ontario in the '90s played with the stack, we called it that too
I was six years old when these decks duked it out for the World Championship, and we already had The Stack when I started playing the game years later. So it's really cool to get to see what the game played like back then.
This was a hell of a watch.
Thanks, guys! Loved this, and would love to see more of it.
Happy you enjoyed it :) we actually filmed 5 of these with Frank and I hope you enjoy the upcoming ones we publish in the next few months!
9:36 The way Chandra's face is crumpled up on Frank's shirt is amazing 😂
I really enjoy y’alls channel. It’s a breathe of fresh air to have a channel that isn’t just constant negativity. I’ve found a few lately, and it’s much more enjoyable content.
I'm really happy you enjoy our content :D and I agree! Why would you he negative about a game you love? :)
16:38 All hail The King of Beatdown.
Nice to see cards and rules I know and understand.
Was only ever a casual player but this era was bang the middle of my time playing.
Thanks for the video. This was when i was first cutting my teeth in the game and I loved both of these decks.
it was great having frank here to play through these memories too
I absolutely love that Jackal Pup, a creature that burns you when it's hit, was the Ragavan of its day. This back in time series with hall of famer Dr. Karsten is such a treat.
Loving these videos highlighting decks from way back in the day.
Just yesterday I was thinking about pre-2000 decks and wondering if you guys would make a video about it. What can i say my dream came true. Seeing a recurring survival deck in action was awesome. Thank you guys.❤
Wow your thoughts must have mailed us because we filmed 5 videos on the topic with Frank that we will be releasing through the next few months :)
Old magic card artworks are just so much more beautiful
This is so fun! I remember just getting into magic in 7th grade and seeing some of these gold bordered cards and thinking they were so awesome.
Great video as always! Frank Karsten is such a nice and knowledgeable guest.
I had a chance to play on this decks back in the day, gold era of Magic! Survival it’s a control deck where you control the board with your creatures. On game 3 would be nice to bring the orcs to destroy the lands and stop the fireblast!!!
Great content guys! This was awesome, thanks you :)
Thank you for watching and enabling us to make content about the game we love!
Would love to see you guys play pre modern. Its a great format and really fills the nostalgia
They'd have to get Sam Black on board I think!
I would love to have Sam Black in the studio! But that would currently be rather expensive as flights from the US to Berlin are not cheap 😅 still, I have premodern in my list of upcoming video ideas :) I just want to make sure we do it right
Yes this!
What a video! Great job as always, really nice to have Frank's insight
I'm happy you enjoyed it :)
Man, I absolutely had this deck in high school. I remember every one of those RecSur cards, art and all.
I LOVE THESE! I will always enjoy the flashback episodes, whether it's 90s or 10s or whenever. Thanks squad!
I'm happy you enjoyed it :) we recorded 5 of these with Frank, if they do well, I'd like to do one for every year
Great video! To see decks like that in play is really unique! Thanks guys!
I'm happy you enjoyed it :)
My monored story started with me finally doing good enough with my kolaghan deck in a fate reforged fnm to win a promo goblin rabblemaster. I remember going home, and making a deck with all these goblin cards, imagining a comical horde of little guys, with cards like roast and hordeling outburst to back them up. I used it against my friends and always had fun making the board, even if i didnt usually win.
Even without winning that sounds like auch a fun time :)
@@CardmarketMagic it really was. Im glad i kept with friday night magic
This is too much nostalgia for one day!
Wow, The recurring nightmare deck looks so fun to play ! i love survive of the fittest who can tutor any creature you need and prepare big ones in GY at a same time that's so sweet !