@@spiraljumper74 halberds are best in class for strength builds imo. Dragon Halberd, Gargoyle Halberd, Nightrider Halberd, and Knights Halberd, are all incredible pvp weapons. just slap dancing blade, piercing fang, Godfrey's earthshaker, endure, braggarts roar, beast roar, storm stomp, or honestly whatever on halberd with a heavy infusion and youre good to go. theyre definitely better two handed not two halberds lol you get the strength bonus for two handing so youd be silly not to.
From what I understand the only bleed nerf really was stun length from bleed procs, damage is unchanged (sure bleed spells were tweaked with how fast it applies, but still not damage)
@@declanthehelper456 the stun change is miniscule, you can still be caught by anything faster than a greatsword. RoB you can barely tell of someone tried to roll or not.
If they removed the stagger on application, but not triggering the bleed damage, it would be 100x better, as it is now if I get touched by the first hit on river's second L2 in the chain, I normally am perma-staggered to death from 1900 hp to 0. If they don't spam fast enough I can -sometimes- roll out. Not often, though.
Bleed giving that extra tidbit of hitstun to extend a power stancing combo. Thats what I think makes it most insane on top of the proc damage. Good shit oro
Try it with the cleanrot swords. The stagger from 1 sword isn't strong enough to stun you out of the animation allowing you to get 2 and sometimes 3 attacks off which will proc bleed again. And repeat...
Reading the latest patch notes hurt my brain, Fromsoft decided to buff everything and hope it works without much thought it seems. Here we have one of the most broken things in the game still not addressed since day one.
@@Crimnox_Cinder Yep, only non-physical damage, but a lot of people use split damage weapons. More often than not, running this tear gives a huge advantage for the, admittedly short, time it lasts.
That's not the issue, lvl shouldn't matter. the issue is the phantoms not being scaled down enough. So a low level host can summon his lvl 500 mate n he one shots the invader. The phantoms need to be downscaled more to better match the hosts lvl. In saying that tho I have no idea how that works or what it takes (game engine wise) to accomplish that. I know it didn't feel like it was quite this bad in ds3. Feels like everything in this game just hits harder.
@@Hursty000 it's definately part of the balancing. A level 150 phantom can equip weapons and incantations/sorceries that are unavailable to lower levels. Alot of these late game weapons either huge requirements like 30 dex or 70 int etc are often stronger than their early game counterparts even at the same equipment level. Even so, I don't mind. I had to deal with all kinds of asymmetrical gameplay ever since I started invading in DS1, and the one thing that makes it possible for me to crush the 3v1 is by using overpowered mechanics. So the blade cuts both ways. Beating the odds is why I play fromsoft games in the first place.
@@iniini77 you get 10% of the runes it would take for the phantom to level up when you kill them. When you invade enough and get experience, you learn to recognize what level they must've been when you kill them by how much you get.
i was tempted to make this build, 45 vigor and enough endurance to get like 100 poise, but i held back because this would happen and i wanted more fun builds.
Hi Oroboro-San, we really love your videos and all but is there any place where you post your post a sheat with your level, stats and equipment per build plz? Would be great :3
You have to do it to the left hand weapon first by 2Hing it or using your spellbuff with a right hand catalyst, then 1H the mainhand weapon and use the WA to buff.
The bleed "nerf" hits like an elderly mans punch. I feel like if rivers was nerfed this game would be so much more enjoyable. EVERY invasion I had tonight had ROB or some duel bleed fuckery. It's just makes me feel so tired to invade right now.
Yes technically but frostbite nearly halves defenses while active but when you use fire damage it stops that so it does literally nothing but staggers.
He's using the crimson bubbletear which heals for 30% of your hp when you go below 20% hp. Then, he's also using the crimsonwhorl bubbletear which converts nonphysical damage to hp.
i dont know anything about elden ring but these are so satisfying to watch. can anyone expand on whether oroboro is that legit, or is everyone he's coming across pretty bad? he seems solid but lotta 2v1 / 3v1 seems like they must be terrible when they get bodied even outnumbering him
oro is definitely a good player but the strong builds hes good at coming up with are definitely why he can 3v1 people, at least in this case. no shade to oro!
None of his ER vids have showcased the difference in skill between him and his opponents. The old dark souls vids were full of parries, tricky backstabs, and unlocked heavy attack aiming that most people will never be able to pull off. Part of the point of his ER vids has been that he can just stand still and just spam basic attacks and win with little effort.
It's a mixture of both. I've fought Oro more than once, he is a very solid player. These players do seem a bit on the 🤪 side, but definitely not taking away from his overall skill and knowledge as a player.
How do you tank everything in every video? I'll have endurance and vigor both at 35 to 40 with good armor, dragoncrest great shield, and pearl drake sometimes and still only be able to take like 3 or 4 hits.
At what level? Vigor soft cap is 60. He also is using crimsonwhorl bubbletear and crimson bubbletear in his mixed physick. The first one converts nonphysical damage into hp and the second one heals you for about 30% of your hp when you go under 20% hp.
@@tommydashed4205 125. Vigor from 40 to 60 isn't too big an increase though. I'm usually sitting at around 1300 hp. Tried crimsonwhorl and I wasn't healing as much as oro usually does too. Idk... Used to host 3v3s in ds3 and not die for hours and now I die to 1 button press... Just trying to fix that.
Yeah Fromsoft basically said fuck STR players lol. Amazes me that people wonder why they immediately get ganked once the host and phantoms realize they're using madness/bleed.
@@yoloRetardSwag Invaders get ganked because hosts are insecure little children that are afraid to take on a PVP environment without a couple of friends backing them up. They're there to gank in the first place, regardless of your build. Unfortunately, Bleed is one of the few ways to deal with them, since you're not going to win a war of attrition by yourself against three dummies. Nerf that and the invasion landscape might as well be dead
@@ImmortalJunior It's scaled with Arcane, but it's also just rediculously high a value on the buff, and it can be applied to weapons that inherently have bleed, to skyrocket bleed values so you can get a proc off a single running attack, for example.
@@Laoruperteen18 i looked up all the tears and didn't see one that heals u from magic, and when I look up tear that converts magic damage to health nothing comes up
@@Garl_Vinland When they're like 50 yards away since Law of Regression affect a circular area about the same radius as a Comet, goes through walls, and actually lingers for several seconds so that it will affect anything that enters the area after the animation ends. So basically you cast it the moment you see the invader or if they're hiding you just "ping" it every now and then.
@@SeIfmadeEndboss Yeah but it's insane how many sorcerers refuse to put the couple of levels into FTH needed to cast Law of Regression when practically the entire PvP meta is built around buffs and status buildup. Hell, 2-3 levels is worth it just to have an on-demand button that erases somebody's Wondrous Physick.
I was dueling a guy and I outplayed him so hard he didn’t get a hit in once and he was one shot but then he teleported because of a lag spike and I died to dual katana seppuku spam in a literal second. I still consider it a win.
Yeah... tell me about it. Using off meta stuff, get someone to 1hp, they "omae wa mou - shindeiru" **teleport** instant death from getting touched by one powerstanced curved sword seppuku jumping l1. 2100 hp, poof. smdh
They need to change how bleed works entirely or just add a cooldown to apply again, maybe reduce the max health after one bleed and not work again, if they just make harder to build up, it will be useless just like Dark Souls 3.
I think so too. I reckon it should do an amount of damage at once after a certain amount of time, starting from AFTER the bleed metre is filled. I.e. make bleed a proper ailment/status effect similar to the other ones rather than free extra damage for no extra effort
The simple solution would be to treat players like bosses. When these burst damage status effects are inflicted (hemorrhage, frostbite, madness), give a temporary boost to resistance to that status. It might at least prevent builds like this obliterating people by proccing the status effects in rapid succession.
Remove bleed stagger completely, make it deal the 30% over 1.5 seconds and during that 1.5 seconds make it so that no new bleed meter can be built. It removes the ability to chain blood loss into blood loss while still keeping the potency of max HP based chunk damage.
I used dual Scavengers CS both Bleed infused with Seppuku, Lord of Bloods Exultation, Millicents Prosthesis and Rotten Winged Sword Insignia. It's stupid.
Super broken ashes of war aside, that physik is just amazing. Nothing better than watching these mages just keep spamming shit over and over and watching it do absolutely nothing 🤣 and they just keep doing it because it's all they know
Almost like if you have never gotten the tear, you'd never know something that so completely and utterly counteracts more than half of the possible build types in the game exists.
@@KainYusanagi yeah, almost. I just find it hilarious. Never been a fan of that playstyle. I find it boring and obnoxious, but also totally understand that people like it and I got no problem with that. Just not for me, and I don't like fighting those types of players either
@@imitationgold5548 3v1 invader is explicitly the game design desired by Miyazaki. You are a foreign invader coming into someone else's territory. Defenders explicitly should have advantage. The physick at least lasts a very short amount of time, so you can wait it out, or provide other forms of support.
@@KainYusanagi Stop with this "coming into someone else's territory" nonsense. Invasions are a game mechanic and invaders deserve a chance to win as well. Hosts should absolutely have the advantage (in fact they always have), but From is making it harder and harder with each game they release. ER is borderline unplayable as an invader, unless you exploit stuff that you know it's eventually going to get patched. You have no shot at winning with a regular build. I'd rather invade in Demon's Souls than ER, that's how awful it is
@@eternaltoad1818 Dragon items, Holy Light miracles, Soul Surge, these were all incredibly under powered and unusable in the game. Melee weapons were all pretty much balanced, by the end of the final patch
6:14 I don't understand that mindless "bravery" here by that summon. He gets like 99% of his health deleted in three hits, but is still swinging at Oroboro with very low health left. Do some of these players simply not look at their health bar? Do they not have the ability to multitask fighting and watching their health bar at the same time? It's sad and pathetic that they play like that.
I don't know that it would be any less pathetic if he ran away to heal. Smarter, maybe, but I think a world where they bhs away to heal every time would be sadder than this
@@nilknarf36 Bhs away? Also running away to heal is not pathetic when your health is so low that you can't even see the red of your health bar anymore. It's just a basic survival choice there. He wasn't anywhere near close to killing Oroboro, so deciding to keep attacking was dumb. There's no honor in random pvp, so he had every right to go and heal. Even Oroboro heals if he suddenly takes a crapload of damage, because he wants to win. That's normal.
@@Knight_Of_Eleum_Loyce bloodhound step. It makes running away to heal too easy. I still wouldn't call it pathetic either, but I think the fights are more fun when they're reckless
@@nilknarf36 Oh I see. Bloodhound Step is ridiculous and way too op imo. Especially because even heavy weapon users can use it. I don't own Elden Ring yet though, so I'm basing this off of all the stuff I've seen in Oro's pvp videos. To each their own.
Fromsoft nerfing for 1.04: "Alright boys. You are in charge of the balancing. Let's hear your ideas" "Well sir we are hearing from the community that bleed is extremely overtuned and one-shotting people in PvP, especially the Seppuku ash of war. We were thinking about nerfing the damage and perhaps looking at ways to reduce bleed buildup" "Hmm... No bleed seems fine. That madness status seems kinda dumb though. Nerf that." "...Uhh sir I know madness needs a look at too. But it seems like bleed is in more desperate need of a-" "Are you questioning me?" "No sir... Uh well besides that, the Bloodhound's Step ash of war people say is way too spammable and makes fights unfun. We were thinking of reducing the recovery time and shortening the distance." "Okay clearly we need to hire a more competent balance team because ya'll have no idea what you're doing. What about that Swarm of Flies incantation? Bleed is too strong on that one, nerf it." "... But sir you just said that bleed is fine-" "Dismissed."
you wanna know WHY they keep nerfing things into the ground? its because of video titles like this. they dont look into the full reason why ppl think something is OP, they just nerf it until ppl move on. plz stop making videos like "OMG THIS IS SO STUPID OP FROMSOFT!". these mechanics are not "OP" they are balanced for the PVE which is the MAIN purpose of this game. the PVP is just side content for when you finish the actual game. bosses have LOTS of health and can kill you in 2 or 3 hits so they put in weapons that do enough damage to make that work. the real solution to "OP" weapons is to level up your VIG already! also the PVP meta level needs to be higher to account for all the differences between this and DarkSouls. you cant just assume 125 or 150 is enough when the game basically demands that you learn at least a LITTLE magic even for your Melee builds to be viable in NG+ and Vigor should be no lower than 30!
obviously some "uber chad" is gonna comment "wElL IIIII dID JuSt FiNe WitH 13VIG iN NG+++" and ya know what, this game rewards skill enough that if you keep ramming into the bosses naked with no weapons at lvl1 then you can probably beat the game that way but YOUR NOT SUPOSED TO DO THAT! those are CHALLENGE RUNS and not the "intended experience". the intended experience is that you use all the mechanics to win including magic, buffs, ranged attacks, and even summoning help when you need it (or want it).
Lel this build is straight up op. I actually run something similar with a toon called "Nerf Bleed" while invading low levels. The faster this status effects gets nerfed into the ground the better. Also "PVP meta level needs to be higher" is a literal braindead take, but it has been explained so many times there is no use bashing my head against the wall. PvP meta will be 125 and to a much lesser extent 150, deal with it.
@@Oroboro c'mon "rethink your life" did i hurt your feelings or something? im not trying to start a dramatic beef with a youtuber i only occasionally stop by to watch and i dont care if you found just the right combination of statistics, weapons, items, and abilities to consistently do better than average in PVP. the body of my comment is in regards too the boss fights in this game and how trying to get the developers to balance based solely on whats best for PVP is missing the point.
Almost makes you think DMB and falchion in DS1 was ACTUALLY underpowered 👌🏼
How about carthus curved sword? 😉
So true.
It would be mid in this game
They didn't touch Seppuku or bleed damage/build up at all in the patch either. It's pretty rough.
They actually made the animation when you get bled a bit shorter. It might make rivers of blood escape-able.
Its the fate us us strength users Okoii,
to continue to struggle, unto eternity
@@Zuckerschock123 nonsense bro put on a halberd. stop suffering. win!
@@sighyawn6378 seriously, halberds kick ass, either alone or dual wielded. Night-Rider Halberd is definitely a meta weapon.
@@spiraljumper74 halberds are best in class for strength builds imo. Dragon Halberd, Gargoyle Halberd, Nightrider Halberd, and Knights Halberd, are all incredible pvp weapons.
just slap dancing blade, piercing fang, Godfrey's earthshaker, endure, braggarts roar, beast roar, storm stomp, or honestly whatever on halberd with a heavy infusion and youre good to go. theyre definitely better two handed not two halberds lol you get the strength bonus for two handing so youd be silly not to.
"Ohh, the fat-rolling. Ya hate to see it."
*fucking kills him*
Basically saying. "You gonna to learn today" lol
Something tells me the minor bleed nerf in 1.04 isn't gonna make this build any less dumb.
nerfing bleed wont give people more health XD
From what I understand the only bleed nerf really was stun length from bleed procs, damage is unchanged (sure bleed spells were tweaked with how fast it applies, but still not damage)
@@declanthehelper456 the stun change is miniscule, you can still be caught by anything faster than a greatsword. RoB you can barely tell of someone tried to roll or not.
Just a seppuku nerf would be a good step in balancing the game
It's just a fuck u to pvp players cos they don't give a fuck about pvp 😁
The fact that bleed interrupts poise is busted alone, not even considering damage
If they removed the stagger on application, but not triggering the bleed damage, it would be 100x better, as it is now if I get touched by the first hit on river's second L2 in the chain, I normally am perma-staggered to death from 1900 hp to 0. If they don't spam fast enough I can -sometimes- roll out. Not often, though.
@@anms_brk yea rivers of blood still one shots me lol
@@anms_brk really wish armor was still worth a shit in this hame
it break poise so hard, its one of the only 2 thing that can break malenia's poise
@@holmesholmes.8784 that’s dumb lmao
Bleed giving that extra tidbit of hitstun to extend a power stancing combo. Thats what I think makes it most insane on top of the proc damage. Good shit oro
Try it with the cleanrot swords. The stagger from 1 sword isn't strong enough to stun you out of the animation allowing you to get 2 and sometimes 3 attacks off which will proc bleed again.
And repeat...
thats not seppuku killing them, its the blood loss they suffer from the anime style nose bleeds they get when they realize they are fighting oroboro
That last battle was the main character at his final arc within his final episode.
"Host's want one thing, and it's fucking disgusting" as he cases after his umpteenth kill/murder lmao😂👌
Reading the latest patch notes hurt my brain, Fromsoft decided to buff everything and hope it works without much thought it seems.
Here we have one of the most broken things in the game still not addressed since day one.
3:15 the hell they didnt even have armors was like seeing a middle age evil knight burning down a peasant village paid by some enemy landlord.
It’s like you get a simulation of a bad netcode in the comfort of your own weapons
Man, making it so that people are forced out of their s when status effects are proc'd was such a weird design choice
I think it's fair.
@@Desiderium its literally just sphagetti code and is probably not even intentional
I got such satisfaction from seeing you facetank that frenzied burst, you have no idea
That 2 pole blades was utterly destructive XD I need it.
5:30 whatever crystal tear you have to shrug off the madness HP damage, I want that.
There is a tear that converts damage to hp for 10 seconds, thats what he is using, but i sadly forgot the name..
Crimsonwhorl Bubbletear is what you're looking for
But it only converts non-physical damage to health, physical damage will still hurt.
@@Crimnox_Cinder Yep, only non-physical damage, but a lot of people use split damage weapons.
More often than not, running this tear gives a huge advantage for the, admittedly short, time it lasts.
@@Crimnox_Cinder Not to mention the magic and moonveil spam meta.
Oroboro has mastered the art of the l1 spam
I wonder how strong this'd be against bosses that can bleed, like Malenia... Gotta go try
bleed makes PvE a joke, but so does a lot of things to be fair
bleed is pretty powerful, but bosses get more resistant each proc, so you need a lot of bleed to make it trivialize bosses.
Did at lvl 80 with dual sepukku, +18 weapons. Killed her in 30 secs. Not even hard with bleed cheese
one of the only 2 status effect that can break her hyperarmor
the phantom at 1:49 is LVL 152 and the host is LVL 59. PVP balance at its finest.
That's not the issue, lvl shouldn't matter. the issue is the phantoms not being scaled down enough. So a low level host can summon his lvl 500 mate n he one shots the invader. The phantoms need to be downscaled more to better match the hosts lvl. In saying that tho I have no idea how that works or what it takes (game engine wise) to accomplish that. I know it didn't feel like it was quite this bad in ds3. Feels like everything in this game just hits harder.
@@Hursty000 it's definately part of the balancing. A level 150 phantom can equip weapons and incantations/sorceries that are unavailable to lower levels. Alot of these late game weapons either huge requirements like 30 dex or 70 int etc are often stronger than their early game counterparts even at the same equipment level.
Even so, I don't mind. I had to deal with all kinds of asymmetrical gameplay ever since I started invading in DS1, and the one thing that makes it possible for me to crush the 3v1 is by using overpowered mechanics. So the blade cuts both ways. Beating the odds is why I play fromsoft games in the first place.
Where can you see their levels?
@@iniini77 you get 10% of the runes it would take for the phantom to level up when you kill them. When you invade enough and get experience, you learn to recognize what level they must've been when you kill them by how much you get.
I killed a phantom in caelid at level 70 and the dude gave me about 350k souls. I hate it.
i was tempted to make this build, 45 vigor and enough endurance to get like 100 poise, but i held back because this would happen and i wanted more fun builds.
You can easily get 100 poise at 25 end
@@arran1216 i think thats how much endurance they got
Hi Oroboro-San, we really love your videos and all but is there any place where you post your post a sheat with your level, stats and equipment per build plz? Would be great :3
can someone tell me what pieces of armor he is using ?
One of the reasons why Regression is so good. Some say that Intelligence requirement is too steep, but your opponent loses 100s of AR.
@oroboro stats? wondering how ur proccing that bleed so fast, is it just cuz of dw?
Really wish they gutted bleed for PvP purposes in the newest patch but they didn’t
As are the longswords. Man I love those things.
5:00 Helicopterman viable confirmed
What armor are you wearing?
how do you have the buff on both weapons ? dosent work for me, when i switch the buff on the other vanishes
You have to do it to the left hand weapon first by 2Hing it or using your spellbuff with a right hand catalyst, then 1H the mainhand weapon and use the WA to buff.
what blood loss buildup does he have?
you killed the same phantom and host back to back at 1:35-1:55 lol
Pretty much everything in this game is a bit over tuned so I guess it's balanced but it does make the skill ceiling feel so low you trip over it
How you even finding invasions that aren't just AFKrs
The bleed "nerf" hits like an elderly mans punch. I feel like if rivers was nerfed this game would be so much more enjoyable. EVERY invasion I had tonight had ROB or some duel bleed fuckery. It's just makes me feel so tired to invade right now.
Can literally just walk backwards to counter rob lol
Learn parrying or use naginata or pikes.
Rivers of blood is not even that bad compared to all the other cheese horse shit in this game.
I think everything procs the same in this game because u can keep doing frost damage and proc it everytime when u have an off hand with fire
Yes technically but frostbite nearly halves defenses while active but when you use fire damage it stops that so it does literally nothing but staggers.
Jesus christ, I think I need to get MRI after watching this
All these hosts who don't know what the vigor stat does
Anyone know if this was after the 1.04 patch?
Yes
This was long before, like sometime last month.
Hey Oro mind sharing your build?
great vid as always
These invasions are almost a month old. These were SL70 with +5 somber/+12 standard. His stats were like, 55 vig, 15 end, 18 str, 18 dex, 20 arcane.
Hosts only want one thing🤣
what's the mixture of Crystal Tears that he's using ?
Crimsonwhorl Bubbletear + Leaden Hardtear
What crystal Tear are you using to recover your health like that
Forget what it’s called but it only works on magic damage unfortunately
@@arran1216 Crimsonwhorl Bubbletear
He's using the crimson bubbletear which heals for 30% of your hp when you go below 20% hp. Then, he's also using the crimsonwhorl bubbletear which converts nonphysical damage to hp.
i dont know anything about elden ring but these are so satisfying to watch. can anyone expand on whether oroboro is that legit, or is everyone he's coming across pretty bad? he seems solid but lotta 2v1 / 3v1 seems like they must be terrible when they get bodied even outnumbering him
oro is definitely a good player but the strong builds hes good at coming up with are definitely why he can 3v1 people, at least in this case. no shade to oro!
The pvp in ER is completely broken and Oro does a good job of bringing attention to the broken stuff.
It’s a mix of both. Oro has been heavily into PvP in all Souls-type games for years now so he’s definitely a good player.
None of his ER vids have showcased the difference in skill between him and his opponents. The old dark souls vids were full of parries, tricky backstabs, and unlocked heavy attack aiming that most people will never be able to pull off. Part of the point of his ER vids has been that he can just stand still and just spam basic attacks and win with little effort.
It's a mixture of both. I've fought Oro more than once, he is a very solid player. These players do seem a bit on the 🤪 side, but definitely not taking away from his overall skill and knowledge as a player.
How do you tank everything in every video? I'll have endurance and vigor both at 35 to 40 with good armor, dragoncrest great shield, and pearl drake sometimes and still only be able to take like 3 or 4 hits.
At what level? Vigor soft cap is 60. He also is using crimsonwhorl bubbletear and crimson bubbletear in his mixed physick. The first one converts nonphysical damage into hp and the second one heals you for about 30% of your hp when you go under 20% hp.
@@tommydashed4205 125. Vigor from 40 to 60 isn't too big an increase though. I'm usually sitting at around 1300 hp. Tried crimsonwhorl and I wasn't healing as much as oro usually does too. Idk... Used to host 3v3s in ds3 and not die for hours and now I die to 1 button press... Just trying to fix that.
oro, check out the raptor of the mists ash, might be your jam
looks sweet honestly
What lvl he is at?
ur laugh reminds me of the happy mask salesman from zelda
Sure do love the minor bleed nerf. Just got killed by a dual cross naginata bleed build in 2 hits, and I have pretty high vigor too. Epic....
Yeah Fromsoft basically said fuck STR players lol. Amazes me that people wonder why they immediately get ganked once the host and phantoms realize they're using madness/bleed.
@@yoloRetardSwag Invaders get ganked because hosts are insecure little children that are afraid to take on a PVP environment without a couple of friends backing them up. They're there to gank in the first place, regardless of your build.
Unfortunately, Bleed is one of the few ways to deal with them, since you're not going to win a war of attrition by yourself against three dummies. Nerf that and the invasion landscape might as well be dead
Is it just bloodflame armament incantation but the scaling is based on your builds stats rather then the sigil with faith stat ?
Nah, it’s much much stronger
What's it scaling based off? The tier of the weapon or the scaling of the weapon or is it just a flat value ?
@@ImmortalJunior It's scaled with Arcane, but it's also just rediculously high a value on the buff, and it can be applied to weapons that inherently have bleed, to skyrocket bleed values so you can get a proc off a single running attack, for example.
The buff is the seppuku ash of war. Not a spell
@@CrowsofAcheron There's a incantation also my dude, haven't seen many duelist use these yet, they were insane in DS3
What tear is that? That heals you when you get hit by magic, I've killed like all the urdtree enemies and have yet to find anything like that
Elden Ring Wiki is your friend
@@Laoruperteen18 i looked up all the tears and didn't see one that heals u from magic, and when I look up tear that converts magic damage to health nothing comes up
@@DemigodDan Crimsonwhorl Bubbletear + Leaden Hardtear
Stats?
What are thoses tears called?
Crimsonwhorl Bubbletear + Leaden Hardtear maybe..not 100%.
This is why you spend the 2-3 levels to get 10 FTH so you can cast Law of Regression.
When do you cast it? Before, or after you die?
Isnt law of regression like 37 int?
@@Garl_Vinland When they're like 50 yards away since Law of Regression affect a circular area about the same radius as a Comet, goes through walls, and actually lingers for several seconds so that it will affect anything that enters the area after the animation ends. So basically you cast it the moment you see the invader or if they're hiding you just "ping" it every now and then.
@@SeIfmadeEndboss Yeah but it's insane how many sorcerers refuse to put the couple of levels into FTH needed to cast Law of Regression when practically the entire PvP meta is built around buffs and status buildup. Hell, 2-3 levels is worth it just to have an on-demand button that erases somebody's Wondrous Physick.
Doesn’t law of regression still work even if you don’t meet the faith requirement for the seal you’re using?
I agree with the title. But spamming magic against the Crimsonwhorl Bubbletear is dumber.
I think I'm just gonna turn my brain off and use this build
1:41 is that a developer's bloodstain or something?
No, that's from a player who uses the same group password as Oro.
@@MrPwner911 oh cool. Never used one before so I didn't know
I knew seppuku was dumb the second i got it, smacked it on the backup weebtana 9000, 20 hours later fought mohg and killed him in 11 seconds
And this is precisely why I don’t PVP
God's work
Gross messes curved swords are actually better.
Oro do uchi with lightning and unsheath r2 on dex its funny
With as many dmg talismans as possible, i forgot to add.
I was dueling a guy and I outplayed him so hard he didn’t get a hit in once and he was one shot but then he teleported because of a lag spike and I died to dual katana seppuku spam in a literal second. I still consider it a win.
Yeah... tell me about it. Using off meta stuff, get someone to 1hp, they "omae wa mou - shindeiru" **teleport** instant death from getting touched by one powerstanced curved sword seppuku jumping l1. 2100 hp, poof. smdh
So like they are gonna fix this right 🤣😅
Bleed in general are stupid af with seppuku then jesus...
Ya... Saw this video coming lol
Jesus
top 3 cancer
1 this
2 fingerpirnt
3 bhs
Can we all agree that the ridiculously big Rune Arc pop-up needs to go?
I agree, how am I supposed to get excellent captures of myself pointing down at defeated gankers?
Perfectly balanced!
One in each hand
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They need to change how bleed works entirely or just add a cooldown to apply again, maybe reduce the max health after one bleed and not work again, if they just make harder to build up, it will be useless just like Dark Souls 3.
I think so too. I reckon it should do an amount of damage at once after a certain amount of time, starting from AFTER the bleed metre is filled. I.e. make bleed a proper ailment/status effect similar to the other ones rather than free extra damage for no extra effort
the biggest problem is baked into the engine, you can't I frame the bleed build up so even in duels at a high level this is pretty rough.
they should just make it useless
The simple solution would be to treat players like bosses. When these burst damage status effects are inflicted (hemorrhage, frostbite, madness), give a temporary boost to resistance to that status. It might at least prevent builds like this obliterating people by proccing the status effects in rapid succession.
Remove bleed stagger completely, make it deal the 30% over 1.5 seconds and during that 1.5 seconds make it so that no new bleed meter can be built. It removes the ability to chain blood loss into blood loss while still keeping the potency of max HP based chunk damage.
I used dual Scavengers CS both Bleed infused with Seppuku, Lord of Bloods Exultation, Millicents Prosthesis and Rotten Winged Sword Insignia. It's stupid.
Super broken ashes of war aside, that physik is just amazing. Nothing better than watching these mages just keep spamming shit over and over and watching it do absolutely nothing 🤣 and they just keep doing it because it's all they know
Almost like if you have never gotten the tear, you'd never know something that so completely and utterly counteracts more than half of the possible build types in the game exists.
@@KainYusanagi yeah, almost.
I just find it hilarious. Never been a fan of that playstyle. I find it boring and obnoxious, but also totally understand that people like it and I got no problem with that. Just not for me, and I don't like fighting those types of players either
@@KainYusanagi yea does seem silly to me but allowing a 3v1 invader also sounds silly so balances out I guess?
@@imitationgold5548 3v1 invader is explicitly the game design desired by Miyazaki. You are a foreign invader coming into someone else's territory. Defenders explicitly should have advantage. The physick at least lasts a very short amount of time, so you can wait it out, or provide other forms of support.
@@KainYusanagi Stop with this "coming into someone else's territory" nonsense. Invasions are a game mechanic and invaders deserve a chance to win as well.
Hosts should absolutely have the advantage (in fact they always have), but From is making it harder and harder with each game they release. ER is borderline unplayable as an invader, unless you exploit stuff that you know it's eventually going to get patched. You have no shot at winning with a regular build.
I'd rather invade in Demon's Souls than ER, that's how awful it is
This game just get broken-er each day...
They nerf it and still dumb
Not even challenging. Stopped playing bleed. It’s TOO easy.
Why do people think that seppuku is what's carrying oro here and not the poise/whorl flask?
why is pvp so unbalanced in this game?
Hey, you had to make this question back in 2007 since the Demon's Souls times lmao, its just From Soft.
Because you people complained about big lasers bleed, frost and a bunch of other things doing nothing in DS3
Pvp in Souls games has always been like this, with some strategies just being incredibly strong. Don't take it too seriously.
@@Garl_Vinland ds3 is balanced. Idk what ur talking about
@@eternaltoad1818 Dragon items, Holy Light miracles, Soul Surge, these were all incredibly under powered and unusable in the game. Melee weapons were all pretty much balanced, by the end of the final patch
lmao are you trying to get it nerfed?
Let’s hope
Elden ring pvp is so awful
PvP is dumb.
OWO
Elden Ring pvp is dumb.
He is just playing against very low level new to the game people
6:14 I don't understand that mindless "bravery" here by that summon. He gets like 99% of his health deleted in three hits, but is still swinging at Oroboro with very low health left. Do some of these players simply not look at their health bar? Do they not have the ability to multitask fighting and watching their health bar at the same time? It's sad and pathetic that they play like that.
I don't know that it would be any less pathetic if he ran away to heal. Smarter, maybe, but I think a world where they bhs away to heal every time would be sadder than this
@@nilknarf36 Bhs away? Also running away to heal is not pathetic when your health is so low that you can't even see the red of your health bar anymore. It's just a basic survival choice there. He wasn't anywhere near close to killing Oroboro, so deciding to keep attacking was dumb. There's no honor in random pvp, so he had every right to go and heal. Even Oroboro heals if he suddenly takes a crapload of damage, because he wants to win. That's normal.
@@Knight_Of_Eleum_Loyce bloodhound step. It makes running away to heal too easy. I still wouldn't call it pathetic either, but I think the fights are more fun when they're reckless
@@nilknarf36 Oh I see. Bloodhound Step is ridiculous and way too op imo. Especially because even heavy weapon users can use it. I don't own Elden Ring yet though, so I'm basing this off of all the stuff I've seen in Oro's pvp videos. To each their own.
Dumbest game I've ever played.
Fromsoft nerfing for 1.04:
"Alright boys. You are in charge of the balancing. Let's hear your ideas"
"Well sir we are hearing from the community that bleed is extremely overtuned and one-shotting people in PvP, especially the Seppuku ash of war. We were thinking about nerfing the damage and perhaps looking at ways to reduce bleed buildup"
"Hmm... No bleed seems fine. That madness status seems kinda dumb though. Nerf that."
"...Uhh sir I know madness needs a look at too. But it seems like bleed is in more desperate need of a-"
"Are you questioning me?"
"No sir... Uh well besides that, the Bloodhound's Step ash of war people say is way too spammable and makes fights unfun. We were thinking of reducing the recovery time and shortening the distance."
"Okay clearly we need to hire a more competent balance team because ya'll have no idea what you're doing. What about that Swarm of Flies incantation? Bleed is too strong on that one, nerf it."
"... But sir you just said that bleed is fine-"
"Dismissed."
Ah, the armchair game developer.
I know why other TH-camrs get more likes lol. All your videos are you complaining.
you wanna know WHY they keep nerfing things into the ground? its because of video titles like this. they dont look into the full reason why ppl think something is OP, they just nerf it until ppl move on.
plz stop making videos like "OMG THIS IS SO STUPID OP FROMSOFT!". these mechanics are not "OP" they are balanced for the PVE which is the MAIN purpose of this game. the PVP is just side content for when you finish the actual game. bosses have LOTS of health and can kill you in 2 or 3 hits so they put in weapons that do enough damage to make that work.
the real solution to "OP" weapons is to level up your VIG already! also the PVP meta level needs to be higher to account for all the differences between this and DarkSouls. you cant just assume 125 or 150 is enough when the game basically demands that you learn at least a LITTLE magic even for your Melee builds to be viable in NG+ and Vigor should be no lower than 30!
obviously some "uber chad" is gonna comment "wElL IIIII dID JuSt FiNe WitH 13VIG iN NG+++" and ya know what, this game rewards skill enough that if you keep ramming into the bosses naked with no weapons at lvl1 then you can probably beat the game that way but YOUR NOT SUPOSED TO DO THAT! those are CHALLENGE RUNS and not the "intended experience". the intended experience is that you use all the mechanics to win including magic, buffs, ranged attacks, and even summoning help when you need it (or want it).
Lel this build is straight up op. I actually run something similar with a toon called "Nerf Bleed" while invading low levels. The faster this status effects gets nerfed into the ground the better.
Also "PVP meta level needs to be higher" is a literal braindead take, but it has been explained so many times there is no use bashing my head against the wall. PvP meta will be 125 and to a much lesser extent 150, deal with it.
I'm not being funny, if you think Seppuku is balanced-especially after watching this video-you need to go home and rethink your life
@@Oroboro c'mon "rethink your life" did i hurt your feelings or something?
im not trying to start a dramatic beef with a youtuber i only occasionally stop by to watch and i dont care if you found just the right combination of statistics, weapons, items, and abilities to consistently do better than average in PVP.
the body of my comment is in regards too the boss fights in this game and how trying to get the developers to balance based solely on whats best for PVP is missing the point.
@@Felix.Fictus It's a meme dude watch Star Wars already 😂