Analog VS Digital - Boss Katana VS Orange Crush - Solid State Battle 🔈

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  • Sound comparison of the Boss Katana 50 Mkii and Orange Crush 35 RT combos. Two amps in the same price bracket but have very different designs. The Orange is analog and the Boss uses digital DSP in its preamp, both have solid state power amps.
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    🎸Time-codes🎸:
    0:00 - Classic Gain
    0:37 - Cleans
    1:14 - Power Chords
    1:59 - Headphone Outputs
    2:43 - High Gain
    3:17 - Clean Sounds - Orange Crush 35RT
    4:07 - Clean Sounds - Boss Katana
    5:48 - Dirty Sounds - Orange Crush 35RT
    6:37 - Dirty Sounds - Boss Katana
    8:16 - More Videos
    Signal Chain (see links below):
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    Orange Crush 35 RT / Boss Katana 50 Mk2
    Shure SM57 (close) + Pair of SE R1 Ribbon Microphone (Room)
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  • @drfraust3117
    @drfraust3117 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I didn't expect such a drastic difference. The orange just sounds so much more "there".

    • @manofthepeople2165
      @manofthepeople2165 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Clean, the orange sounds fuller than the katana.
      Overdriven, the Katana sounds kinda digitaly. Not as natural sounding od sound as the orange.

  • @dv8322
    @dv8322 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    The Boss seems to have more bells and whistles but the Orange sounds way better, at least to me. Overall, I would say the Orange Crush-es the Boss.🧡🧡🧡

    • @Dram1984
      @Dram1984 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah, I’d say the cleans are pretty close but the drive on the Orange is way better.

    • @dustysoul1986
      @dustysoul1986 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Hey mate, the katana has a full range speaker installed but you can adjust the range so it can be more like the orange or any other speaker you like.
      I adjusted to a range of 80hz - 5khz as this is the range of my celestion seventy 80s in my cabinet and sounds great.

    • @thebadbeatbetty
      @thebadbeatbetty ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@dustysoul1986 how do you do that?
      Is that the low and high cut on para eq?

    • @mypetvelociraptor
      @mypetvelociraptor 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree ☝️

    • @manofthepeople2165
      @manofthepeople2165 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed, very noticable when distorted how "digital" sounding the katana is, but in clean too, the tone is fatter than the Katana which sounds kinda thin.
      Katana has more features for sure, but I think the beauty of the Orange is the simplicity. I think it's a better platform for pedals too.

  • @alanknott363
    @alanknott363 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    The Orange sounded better to me in this demo, I also like that it's straightforward to use and tweak on the fly.
    The Katana is very good and ideal for indoors and studio tweaking, where it can do much more than shown here.
    For band practise and jamming with mates I would choose the Orange. I would love to own either amp tbh..
    Thanks for a good no nonsense demo.

  • @danyrszz
    @danyrszz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    what a complete demo! really enjoyed watching this and listening to your playing!

  • @MJPGuitar
    @MJPGuitar ปีที่แล้ว +17

    And this is why orange has been my amp of choice for years

  • @mickd271
    @mickd271 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Thanks for this simple no waffling video

  • @DLawrenceMarketing
    @DLawrenceMarketing ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Nice demo, you touch all the important points in a thorough demo. Glad you did headphone out also. Dialing in the EQ range is helpful too.Most demos don't include headphone samples.

  • @Overlord6196
    @Overlord6196 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I know this is just supposed to be a demo but I'm seriously in LOVE with the first clean sample & the EQ demo clean sample....theyre both soooo relaxing.

  • @fdra1763
    @fdra1763 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The 1st 30 seconds in and I was blown away by the nuances in comparison to each other. Thanks for this.

  • @joshw9736
    @joshw9736 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I bought the Orange as a practice amp and its become the one I gig out with. Loud af, sounds great mic'd up and takes my pedals really well.

    • @luissantiago7772
      @luissantiago7772 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agree i have it

    • @writeagainsterasure7248
      @writeagainsterasure7248 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is this loud enough in a small bar gig? Without mic?

    • @nick011182
      @nick011182 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@writeagainsterasure7248I've gigged in a small bar with the Orange. It holds up just fine. Mic it, and it's even better.

  • @tunnleking
    @tunnleking ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I have the 35 rt, the clean channel with the volume anywhere between "6" and "11" is the perfect spot, use the volume on the guitar to go between clean and crunch, dial it in and control the crunch with your pick. Beautiful little amp with the perfect classic rock tone that you can share with the neighbors anytime you want to.

    • @rajikula8085
      @rajikula8085 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is it loud enough for gigging?

    • @tunnleking
      @tunnleking 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just depends on what you're doing, if you're small club type thing then it is. If you're outside like a concert in the park or something, then probably not.@@rajikula8085

    • @luissantiago7772
      @luissantiago7772 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@rajikula8085Small gigs yess 35rt or bigger. I use this 35rt with full band playing metal NO MICS OF COURSE sounds loud enough

  • @phrankie_lewpehz
    @phrankie_lewpehz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks to this video. I ended up getting the Boss Kitana ll 50

  • @fernandodecarvalho3304
    @fernandodecarvalho3304 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Both sounds great!

  • @craighambo
    @craighambo ปีที่แล้ว +81

    I own both of these amps and they both are great.The kat is like a Swiss army knife that does a bit of everything but tonewise the orange sounds quite brilliant for its price.Its gàin stages are very responsive and it has amazing cleans and takes pedals very well.

    • @qwerty6789x
      @qwerty6789x ปีที่แล้ว +2

      which one has better tone clarity?i just got my Katana MKII today seems need a bit of Tweaking to satisfy "organic sound" tone i'm looking. Planning to grab the Orange amp too.

    • @craighambo
      @craighambo ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @雪隠 you can tweak the katana in the librarian(try global eq) but the orange has better cleans for my taste.

  • @caglaroral
    @caglaroral ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Best solid state room amp is Orange Crush, period.

  • @mpRamosgroove
    @mpRamosgroove ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I think they both sound good, although the Orange sounds significantly better. But if I wasn't listening to them side by side I'd have no issue with the sound of the Katana, so in the context of a song I wouldn't really matter as far as I'm concerned. The Katana is a great all in one that has all the effects you could ever need, so if saving some money is the overall goal it comes out front. But cost is not a concern, then Orange would be the way to go.

    • @BlazertronGames
      @BlazertronGames 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I actually thought the katana sounded better in many cases. But I'm interested in the fact that the orange is completely analog. If one of the digital chips on your katana dies, there's a good chance it's just going on a landfill, whereas with completely analog, it can likely be fixed by just replacing some components. The orange will probably outlast katana's.

  • @jonclark7485
    @jonclark7485 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I have both of these amps and both amps are great for the price value. Can't go wrong either way. I do prefer orange though personally for overall tone. Rock on!!!

  • @stovepipe9er
    @stovepipe9er ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m glad I watched this, the orange sounds better for lack of better words.

  • @tonya4157
    @tonya4157 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If you plugged in to an Orange you would immediately see the difference. I see the attraction of the Katana with all the built-in effects and Tone Studio but in the end, it all sounds exactly the same. This little 35RT is so sensitive and responsive It's like night and day to the Katana. It doesn't hide anything. You hear when you touch the strings. It isn't perfect. It's a small closed cab with a 10 inch speaker but it will still move some air.

  • @R4N2Jz
    @R4N2Jz ปีที่แล้ว +13

    You play so good bro, keep it up. I also very like those videos you make, it helps lots of people!

  • @irishwarhammer9388
    @irishwarhammer9388 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Crazy timely. I've been considering both of these. Orange it is. Thank you👍

  • @Mtsh196
    @Mtsh196 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Спасибо большое! У Вас самый лучший канал сравнений на Ютубе.

  • @derekjohnson5720
    @derekjohnson5720 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Had both and a blackstar silverline and sold them all because I always preferred the sound of my old Marshall 50DFX. The Katana mk2 100 was my least Favourite, that went after a month. The crush 35 lasted a few months, the silverline lasted 6 months. The Marshall 50DFX has lasted over 12 years. Everyone eventually finds their own sound, mines has always been Marshall. I would advise anyone who is looking at buying an amp to take your guitar with you to a shop. Line up the amps you fancy and have a good play on all of them.

  • @WhoDaF0ok1sThatGuy
    @WhoDaF0ok1sThatGuy 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow, that Orange sounded amazing on clean. I usually only play on distortion but I might start noodling on clean

  • @vishekdas
    @vishekdas ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The comparison I've been waiting for. The orange sounds more alive in everything except for the headphone out.

  • @johnnyreyes9229
    @johnnyreyes9229 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The difference I believe is in the spears used in each. Orange uses I believe vintage 30's while boss uses their own branded speaker. Now I own the boss katana mk2 100 head and am using it with two Hughes and kettner 1x12's with vintage 30's in them and to my ears they sound so much better than the stock speakers that come in the boss cabinets.

  • @Sam4Bam
    @Sam4Bam 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My brother and I bought the Katana and the Crush 20, and both of them are such good Amps, good melodies and nice crunch potential... but I am an Orange fan

  • @Da_Publick
    @Da_Publick 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Well, there's the fact that the tone controls actually work on the Kitana. The Orange's Gain knob doesn't do anything until about halfway, and then blows you away with crunch tone. The Orange Clean volume level doesn't rise until it's at 11 o'clock.

  • @Lovell93
    @Lovell93 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When you started the clean part, it made me think you were about to break out into some crazy Polyphia stuff lol. Just sounded like some riffs they would do.

  • @davidsummerville351
    @davidsummerville351 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Clean for Katana, overdrive for Orange. Both nice amps. Thanks for the demo. Good info.

  • @Dave79-be7ld
    @Dave79-be7ld 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    The thing is, if you dialled in the Katana you could 100% get the tone of the Orange.

    • @goodmanwiseman303
      @goodmanwiseman303 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Allegedly.

    • @goodmanwiseman303
      @goodmanwiseman303 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The speaker in the amp is the most important part by far. You don’t have any ability to “dial” that “in”.

    • @davesnothere2879
      @davesnothere2879 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@goodmanwiseman303the katana sounds better headphone out

    • @chrishyde1216
      @chrishyde1216 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@goodmanwiseman303 So buy the Katana Head and choose the right speaker?

    • @jasonmelo9379
      @jasonmelo9379 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Of course you can what are you talking about. The speaker is just a transducer it does with the electronics tell it. ​@@goodmanwiseman303

  • @Chris-Rife
    @Chris-Rife 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I am not gonna read comments just gonna state my opinion. I like Orange overall it has warm natural tones. I am not a fan of Boss Katana, not to say it's bad I just didn't enjoy mine... I sold it last year, I had the Mk2. If we are talking combo amps, I like peavey vypyr for metal, and orange for clean, rock/blues. I feel like Boss Katana is the jack of all but master of none.

  • @algrundau9441
    @algrundau9441 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the Boss Katana 100 watt Head Mk 1 version. Did a simple factory reset and NEVER plug it into a computer.....EVER. I do plug it into either an old Marshall 4--12, Vox 2-12, Peavey or a Dime Cabinet.
    I also use pedals with it. As you can imagine, depending on what cabinet or pedals, it sounds radically different.
    I love it. Excellent bang for my buck when I don't want to bother with one of my tube amps. BOTH the Orange and Katana are Solid State as far as the Drive or Amp sections are concerned.
    What IS digital on the Katana is the pedal's and effects modelling, FX loop and pedal footswitching.
    But the GUTS of both, the "engine under the hood" of BOTH is good old Solid state.
    I wouldn't mind owning an Orange one day. They also sound great.
    If you get a deal on a used Boss 100 Watt head MK 1 version, like I did. DO IT. And I am usually "tube guy."
    I hope that helps, Thanks for listening. Cheers!

  • @dewberry3043
    @dewberry3043 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Katana sounds like you are already mic and playing through the PA. Since I will be using this type of Amps in a live situation at Small bars, I will pick the Katana instead of the Orange. And I plan to get next Month. Thanks for this Demo.

  • @andreyms4318
    @andreyms4318 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am very glad that at one time I did not buy either one or the other, but bought a tube ))

  • @IbosW
    @IbosW 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That's what I call comparison 👍

  • @EC-ol8nz
    @EC-ol8nz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I should have bought the Boss Katana but friends said go tube amp! Happy I bought a Bugera tube amp but I had to buy a ton of pedals to get sound I want.
    Now I need a practice amp so it is the Orange for me 😁 Great sound test!
    If you are starting out get a Boss Katana or Fender Mustang no pedals needed.
    Champion 20 if You don't have room and need quiet or Champion 50 If you want friends to come over to jam.

  • @MrDlt123
    @MrDlt123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    To me, its rare that one good amp is better than another. Its entirely situational. Both would have their uses in my studio. Actually, they both already do. :)

  • @AlphaPackBoi
    @AlphaPackBoi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I have the 35rt. Maybe it's just the mic but mine has a more organic sound when playing with high gain. I definitely prefer the more natural sound of the orange when it comes to cleans. Definitely has more than enough gain

  • @ec8107
    @ec8107 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have the first generation katana 100. It has that same fizzy sizzle on the top end that's hard to eq out without making it lifeless. I found it was the speaker that I really disliked. I'm currently running it through a Creamback loaded 2x12 and it sounds great. If I was to do it over again, I would definitely get the head and run it through the Creamback cab.

    • @goodmanwiseman303
      @goodmanwiseman303 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep, the speaker no doubt makes a huge difference.

  • @robertbriquet
    @robertbriquet ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If you don't want to edit your sound go with the orange. If you have time to play with the boss software go with the katana. I have both but I like the orange better to gig with. Easy to dial and change channels the buttons show you where you are.

  • @jasonrogers7318
    @jasonrogers7318 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Both sound great 👍. The orange 🍊 has a much more present mid voice. Great video man. Cheers 🍻

  • @DantePaez
    @DantePaez ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A proud KAT user here!

  • @Kriegter
    @Kriegter 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The katana has that awesome crunch going

  • @qddk9545
    @qddk9545 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Orange sounds very good.

  • @jamesbarrybrooks6564
    @jamesbarrybrooks6564 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Orange crush series are the best solid state amps you can buy. I used a 35RT to gig with in a funk /Soul band it sounded great and was plenty loud enough for on stage volume, line out to PA with speaker emulation.

  • @peaner083
    @peaner083 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fantastic review bro. It has inspired me to dust off my Orange 35R tbh. I guess I haven't played it in awhile mostly cause I have since purchased a few other smaller amps which cause of where I am and mostly when I play have been using them. But yeah my Orange is definitely gonna get plugged in and turned up!

  • @luaoliveira4515
    @luaoliveira4515 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Primeira vez que acho o som de um Orange melhor, então esse é o poder do som digital

  • @boopsnoot2807
    @boopsnoot2807 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I think the Katana is better for a beginner who is learning about different lead tones and needs a kind of all in one box, or maybe for someone starting out recording music. But the Orange just has more juice and overall just a more authentic sound.

  • @Turbo-D
    @Turbo-D ปีที่แล้ว +14

    i have the katana mk2 100w head and i just love it, sounds even better than some tube amps to me and its much more popular and higher ratet than the orange but i`m also sure that you can never get wrong with an orange amp at all 😎

    • @masamune9082
      @masamune9082 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sir should I get a charvel dk24 hh or prs se paul's guitar?

  • @ilemraz
    @ilemraz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    they both sound great but ive never been the biggest fan of the orange sound. but i bet its better than the current cheap amp i have

  • @gwugluud
    @gwugluud ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find something to like out of almost any amp. SS and digital are great IMO since i live in a region which trades climates with planet Venus 8 months out of the year (Texas), and beating the heat is an endeavor which really does border on the desperate, lol. Tube amps double as space heaters during the 11-minute winters. Happily, SS "arrived" approx 20ish years ago with the advent of the Peavey Transvestube series. Others quickly aped the formula; I have a B-52 100-watt brain among other things, and in the context of my lousy mixes, it's never just super obvious it's a SS amp. And VSTs such as Amp Room, Overloud etc are just perfect for when it's 2am, and I could possibly earn more blood enemies, namely my neighbors, if i were to fire up my 150-watt Bugera Dollar General Plexi remake thru my Marshall AVT series (a "cheap" line, but it sounds great, very luckily) 4x12, lol.

  • @voxpathfinder15r
    @voxpathfinder15r 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I own the crush 12, and what I love about it is that it has the feel of a 100 watts tube amplifier cranked doing that sag thing you feel under your finger tips. Not sure people in the audience would care which of these two amplifiers you use, but I would use the crush. Curious how loud the 35RT can get for gigging. I guess my 12 would be fine mic’d - but you would have to rely on wedges or in-ears.

  • @jimcamp2423
    @jimcamp2423 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They both sounded fine. It's a preference really. I have the Crush 12 PiX and I prefer my Fender Mustang I V2 to it. Not really a fair comparison though. 12W vs 20W The Fender has a Orange Custom sim, Orange does Orange better, but across what features the Mustang I V2 has, the Orange is a niche amp after it's all said & done. From other's comments. Orange is a love/hate thing. With Orange, there's also Marshall & Vox as British tone/sound. And the Mustang I V2 has those other British sound amps.

  • @justme-wh5li
    @justme-wh5li ปีที่แล้ว +2

    can hear the orange has cleaner more present attack (bell like) on cleans. But the kat seems more flexible (if a little thinner), but you could probably tweak it a bit. prefer the orange overall, with the exception of high gain where kat seems better (oddly, since it's meant to be orange's thing).

  • @sonicsully515
    @sonicsully515 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Personally I think the Boss has a way clearer sound on cleans but it’s undeniable the the Orange has better gain sounds. I mostly play in clean/edge of breakup sounds so I’m happy with my MKII100

  • @amosmontessori
    @amosmontessori 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Guitar amps that I use: Wangs Mini 5, Orange Crush 30r and Ampeg AX-70

  • @letsgooo1637
    @letsgooo1637 ปีที่แล้ว

    The crush sounds so good

  • @SfordRog
    @SfordRog 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    In my headphones the Orange didn't exhibit a wide range of EQ during the clean tones, but showed bigger changes when turning the tone knobs with dirty tones. It sounded good, but not drastically better/different to the Katana and its tonal range.

  • @laszloviktorvona8545
    @laszloviktorvona8545 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am looking to own a Boss Katana, but still the orange here sounds way better in my opinion.

  • @endezeichengrimm
    @endezeichengrimm ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Orange has more prominent mid range. This might be good or bad depending on your opinion.
    Actually, if the back of the cabinet is closed, that would make it sound more boxy.

  • @randolphvanhook5829
    @randolphvanhook5829 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I used to have a Katana 50 mk2 and always felt it sounded very thin. I ended up replacing it with an Orange Crush 20 and even with the little 8" speaker the Orange sounds fuller than the Katana. I just don't need all the crap the Katana has, thats why I built a pedalboard. I just want my amp to have a nice clean and a decent drive that I can set and forget. Orange ticks all my boxes.

  • @chrishyde1216
    @chrishyde1216 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Since my post below, I've bought a Katana 100. Initially I was disappointed after reading all the hype, and as I'm still in the return period was thinking of returning it. BUT that was premature and before I started fiddling with Tone Studio. You can adjust everything and there is a massive range of effects available, all of which can be saved to presets. I compared the on-board Rat pedal with my real Rat and they sound so similar that I can now sell my Rat pedal and get some money back. You can really shape the sound to what you want, though you need to put the time into it initially. But once you've saved some settings that you like, it's then a grab and go with no more twiddling. I'm sure that the Orange sound could be recreated on the Katana. Plus there's loads of support videos (eg Studio Rats) and hardware such as the GA-FC pedal, and it has an easily accessible FX loop (it's under the chassis on the CR60) and has the 0.5W setting which makes it easy to tweak volume at bedroom levels. It's definitely growing on me and becoming a bit of an obsession. Lessons: 1) don't judge a Katana based on the factory settings 2) use Tone Studio to adjust it to your preferences 3) ignore the crunch/lead/brown channels and stick with the clean channel, adding on board dirt and other pedals as required.

  • @AMech01
    @AMech01 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Boss is good sounding too but I like the Orange the most bc it has that mid range.

  • @JohnnyAppleseed-yl6fo
    @JohnnyAppleseed-yl6fo 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It's the Katana for me. The Orange Crush sounds better, hands down, but the Katana is infintely more prolific, versatile, there's just so much more you can do with it. The Katana is also a steal on price for all that you get. The Crush is completely fair on price, a bargain even, but the Katana is a straight up steal.

  • @AmitSharma-kd7rj
    @AmitSharma-kd7rj 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In cleans, definitely Orange is sweet and sharp.... but in High Gain, Katana has more bass and does not pierce the ears... Orange sounds shrill in high gain

  • @rebeccaabraham8652
    @rebeccaabraham8652 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The Katana just sounds ‘thinner’ to me - and I’d guess that with being digital, it has ‘sampling roll-off’ while the Orange being analogue doesn’t have any issues like that. Anyway - I’ve just bought the 20RT and can’t believe how loud the damned beastie is; it kicked my friends 50w acoustic amp right off the reservation - and I’ll be using it in public later this week! Actually I have the clean volume on 4 and that seems to match his acoustic quite nicely! I’ve dreamed of owning an Orange amp since 1978, in Liverpool!, and now I do - and it’s great!

    • @svenzia
      @svenzia 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Katana digital? Ohhh

    • @svenzia
      @svenzia 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh i googled now: " BOSS katana a solid state amp?
      BOSS Katana amps are solid state amps that feature digital sound effects. Huge scandal by you. Can you do better next time?

    • @rebeccaabraham8652
      @rebeccaabraham8652 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@svenzia As soon as you put a digital section in the signal chain, anything following that becomes compromised. No matter how good the power stages are… they’ll be amplifying a digitally sampled signal - even after it’s gone back through a DAC - it’s still a compromised signal - no matter how good the DAC is…. Anyway - at my age, my hearing isn’t as good as it once was - so modern sampling systems are possibly good enough for me - but the physics doesn’t change!

    • @svenzia
      @svenzia 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rebeccaabraham8652 Hey, yes i know, and you are right ofc. Hihi, no need for you to do better next time, but i wanted a good explanation from a better explainer than me. Hurrah for Rebecca. Cheers, also getting old btw. Have a great evening. Oh, i have never played the Katana or the Crush but they sound fine imo. Kind regards from Stockholm, Sweden 😃😃

  • @user-nf2wk9yx8z
    @user-nf2wk9yx8z ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've tried both of these amps at a music store. Orange Crush 35RT is just plug and play, hard to get a bad sound out of it to my ears, I like the mid-focused sound. The Boss was very noisy and the low to mid-gain distortion lacked dynamics compared to the Orange. I thought the built-in effects on the Boss Katana were pretty good though.
    I have a Vox VT40x. I'd say it sits somewhere between these two. I only use maybe 3 of the amp models, but they have good dynamics. It's noisier than the Orange but quieter than the Katana. It has some built in effects that range from good to disappointing. It has an app for editing that I've never bothered using. Headphone out is alright. I'm thinking about replacing it with the Orange Crush 35RT now that I own some effects pedals.

  • @jasonmelo9379
    @jasonmelo9379 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The boss is just more v-shaped. If you eq it it'll sound just like the orange.

  • @elmershiflett8154
    @elmershiflett8154 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Orange definitely was more punchy, I have a 35rt and it sounds really good

  • @oli0849
    @oli0849 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    i don’t understand all the people in this comment section saying the crush is better to my ear it sounds very fizzy and doesn’t have much body, sounds like it’s out of an old black metal record

    • @Da_Publick
      @Da_Publick 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't understand how no one noticed the sound of the amp drop out completely as soon as he dialed the Gain knob below halfway. I'm pretty sure that's not how a potentiometer is supposed to work.

  • @IlSinistero
    @IlSinistero ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Orange has more low mids, makes it sound fuller. Anyways hard to say which amp is better, think you could get some good sounds out of the Katana if you tweek it a bit

  • @St3v3theWeave
    @St3v3theWeave ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I feel there's a lot more fiddling with the effects and eq on the Boss that could get you to all the places where the Orange sounds better. I just bought my son a mono price $120-delivered 5W 6v6 based 8" combo. A few $25 amazon pedals gets me to a better place than either of these. I mainly play around on my 5W Gibson el84 based reissue. 38W Boogie and 60W Crate tube amps are just too much off-stage. You have to start somewhere and we learn more about what we want as we go and for that, either of these are nice options. I don't see why all these amps don't have a built-in tuner, these days. I've got an Orange Micro Crush and a Bass Crush 100. Both have them.

  • @danreid6712
    @danreid6712 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel the Orange is bright & best for cutting Leads.

  • @andrewbecker3700
    @andrewbecker3700 ปีที่แล้ว

    To compare them as combos or just the amps run through a separate speaker cab are 2 very different ways to judge them. Ask anyone who's used various speaker cabs with their Katana, and they'll all say the same thing. With the endless tone shaping features of the Katana you can make almost any speaker cab sound decent. With a one trick pony Orange your gonna be pretty limited.

  • @Usu_087
    @Usu_087 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Tengo el boss katana mkII 50 y puedo dercir que es un amplificador que sonara mucho pero muchisimo mejor si se le pone presets o establecer el booster como distorsion/overdrive principal, al principio me decepcione que sonara algo digital su distorsion y los limpios pero usando su interfaz de configuracion realmente se puede hacer maravillas con este amplificador hasta el punto que ya no considero comprarme el orange

    • @ccamacho9333
      @ccamacho9333 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Me paso igualmente y dije que era una porqueria de Amp pero haora que lo pude entender mejor es unos de mis favorito

  • @PedalJunkie
    @PedalJunkie หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for this Demo, this is exactly what I needed, since I have to choose which one of those I'll buy. It's going to be the orange 🫡

  • @albertplaysguitar
    @albertplaysguitar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I relly should get my dirt channel fixed on the crush... bit of a contact issue in the pot since i broke the knob... my repair was of limited sucess as it sounds like a fuzz now😅😂

  • @James-kj9hw
    @James-kj9hw ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ive had both amps, and just spend the money on the katana. U can fine tune its sound a lot more and its probably one of the best pedal platforms.

    • @craighambo
      @craighambo ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I own both and prefer the 35rt by a mile.The kat is great but the 35 rt is a long way ahead for pure tone.

  • @jimkirby1799
    @jimkirby1799 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I found the boss amp had a sharper clarity, whereas the Orange had a warmer tone, with more pronounced bass.

    • @Meta9871
      @Meta9871 ปีที่แล้ว

      My favorite word salad

    • @itsalwayssomething7490
      @itsalwayssomething7490 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I mean, the Katana is designed to work with the Tone Studio. If you spent a few mins on it, you'd be able to get the Katana to sound like anything you want. This is just raw, everything is at 12 o'clock sound. The Orange is a plug in and play type amp, the Katana is made to tweak the hell out of.

    • @Lovell93
      @Lovell93 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@itsalwayssomething7490 Agreed. Katana wins by default simply because of Tone Studio. You can get pretty much any tone you want! I think the high gain is way better on the Katana, too.

  • @lotuschild696
    @lotuschild696 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I actually just sold my katana MK2. It made the general tone of my guitars just sound… muddy, and it gave this overall underwater sound and there was just not much I could do about it after so long. It was great when I wanted a bunch of different effects starting out and I didn’t have any pedals but playing clean through the katana vs even an orange crush 12 there was a huge difference and my 12 sounded so much better that my katana collected dust. I use the 35RT now.
    I’m not saying the katana is a terrible amp, but it’s decent at a lot of things but not great at anything. The analog amps are going to be great at a few things but lack the versatility of all the digital bells and whistles. As you grow with your guitar journey so will your taste and recognition of good tones and you’ll find what you love.

  • @Indahnya_NegerikuiIni
    @Indahnya_NegerikuiIni ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Orange ❤

  • @cliffirddelbridge2810
    @cliffirddelbridge2810 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have never really gone for those metal tones so I can't say, but the Kat Mk2 100 is killer for blues tones.

  • @krailanuar
    @krailanuar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Katana FRFR Speaker So i prefer Orange Amp... Both Good

  • @joost3783
    @joost3783 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would love to hear them through the same cab

  • @brayandavilabermudez1247
    @brayandavilabermudez1247 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Orange Crush It by Far 🍊🔥

  • @MrTudesauce
    @MrTudesauce ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Probably what you'd expect... Orange has pronounced mids and its signature growl, and tones that could be usable across a slew of genres.. katana sounds *very* thin, even if not overly processed... The best tone you can get out of it would only find its home in some modern punk rock, but there's plenty of settings on it which sound jarring and unpleasant.... Crush beats Katana overall.. but to say analog beats digital *always* feels like falling into a classic trap...

    • @cyntdestroyer69xd
      @cyntdestroyer69xd 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's because main distortion pedal should be used through "Booster", not through pure gain. I tune all the way to Drop F and D#1, and it sounds absolutely growling and crushing there. You just have to understand what EQ-ing is, to make a good tone out of it.

  • @EXMORr
    @EXMORr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you use the EQ and the residence controls on the Boss Katana
    it would sound closer to the orange ,
    But a tube amp has a much wider frequency band then a solid state amp .
    A tube amp will always sound fuller .
    That's just the nature of tubes .
    Me personally
    The lighter weight and all the bells and whistles .
    I Will always choose the Boss Katana.
    Close is good enough .
    Unless you're doing a side by side comparison
    no one's going to notice .

  • @gary9564
    @gary9564 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Orange baby!!

  • @rajikula8085
    @rajikula8085 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there a way to try and compensate for the lack of touch responsive distortion on these type of solid state amps? I'm thinking of downsizing from my fender mustang 150 watt modelling amp but want to try and be aware of the drawbacks...

  • @gregoneill4398
    @gregoneill4398 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Orange sounds great. Boss sounds flaccid.

    • @xrdbnk
      @xrdbnk ปีที่แล้ว

      “flaccid” is the sound descriptor i didn’t know i needed

  • @WillyWP
    @WillyWP 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Boss sounded pretty good, but lacked some of the sweetness of the Orange. Generally it was more scooped sounding.

  • @Daniel-st1ju
    @Daniel-st1ju ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What where you playing at cleans?

  • @shinboke55
    @shinboke55 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What song are you playing on the 'power chords' section of this video?

  • @Dlee966
    @Dlee966 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a boss katana and I love it. Orange sounds good too. My question is what about acoustic through the orange?

  • @philippemartignier9858
    @philippemartignier9858 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Boss seems V-shaped for all tones. Dont like the disto on Boss. The only better way for Boss is through headphones for clean sound. Eq on the Boss are more active but Orange's sound (given you like this Orange sound) is clearly the winner. Boss is too much "usine à gaz" for me:)

  • @martin_srm_2481
    @martin_srm_2481 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's any sound difference between the Crush 20rt and 35rt? I have the 20rt and I don't know how to make it sounds cool, is my first time with a 3 band EQ and I mess up everytime I play with it and don't get that tone that I want

    • @TobysGuitarGearDemos
      @TobysGuitarGearDemos  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the 20RT is very similar, I wouldn't upgrade form a 20 to a 35. Try copying my settings off my 20RT video. Obviously depends on your guitar. If you have humbuckers then reduce the bass and raise the treble for cleans. If you have single coils boost the bass + mids when you use the dirty channel 👍

  • @OutlawOfKtulu
    @OutlawOfKtulu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I honestly think the 50w, single offset speaker Katana is a waste of money. Save and spend a few extra bucks to get the 2x12 combo or the 100w head.
    The Orange sounds better. The Boss sounds more sterile, but I think it's a better gigging option. The built-in fx are handy, if you just want to leave your expensive pedals at home, depending on the venue. It is Boss, so they have some experience in that area. The GA footswitch is very user friendly imo.
    The ToneWorks software is also a HUGE bonus. You can literally create all the pre-made patches you need, and unlock cool things like Uni-Vibe etc., it's not hard. You just need to have and know how to use a computer. It's also a great pedal platform.
    Then again, the Orange has a buffered fx loop.
    I own both. Both have their strengths. Out of the box, though, the Orange is best in tone. It sounds as close as you'll get to an actuall valve driven Rockerverb. I fail to hear much of a difference, especially considering the price. The built-in reverb is really all you need to get going. That and a noise gate. The tone is already 👌

  • @nottoxic_jimmy6606
    @nottoxic_jimmy6606 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    3:03 holy that part got me, where do I get tabs, for easir learn?

  • @jamesboddie2227
    @jamesboddie2227 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Headphone out being mostly identical, I wonder how much the difference in sound is just the speaker used. Having the waza craft speaker in my Katana, it's sounds much different.