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When searching for a 70s rock song that would be a good match for the tone of these Crush amps, Strutter stood out to me as the obvious choice. Orange amps are great for that KISS sound.
Strutter is not a "deep cut". It is a common Kiss staple. Now, if you would have said "Strange Ways" I might have let it slide, but not Strutter. Sorry. 🤗😎😉
I love my orange crush 35rt, i’m an amateur guitar player who plays small shows so the 35rt is perfect for me, it’s loud enough to be heard even next to a metal drummer and i almost never worry about being too quiet, on the other hand because it’s only 35 watts even if i crank it the amp doesn’t impede on any other instruments so it’s the perfect range of dynamics for me
I got my eight year old a Crush Mini and a Squier Mini Jazzmaster for Christmas this year. I liked the fact the amp is battery powered and can’t produce a volume that would easily cause permanent and irreparable hearing loss. Sure it sounds pretty bad, but it’s got a usable sound so he can hear himself play without worrying about it at all. He can use my Rockerverb MKIII 100 and PPC412 under supervision. Everything has it’s place and the Crush Mini was a perfect choice.
Got my OR15 this year, and I coudn't be happier! It was my favourite amp from youtube, inspite of it's low power. The tone is incredible, orange amps rule!
Orange has such great products. They’re well built compared to competitors and sounds great too. I own the OR30, AD30, Rocker 15 Terror, Tiny Terror, Super Crush 100 and am always rationalizing why I need another handful more to add to my collection. Glad you seem to feel the same way and continue to make videos featuring their products!
I could also see this as a great platform for the dozens of modelers out there, for someone who just needs a good speaker but doesn't want to spend big money on a seperate cab and power amp, one of the big drawbacks of modelers is if you're running directly into a PA you're not getting that tone of "pushing air" in a physical space.
35RT has a huge amount of clean volume which could make for a fantastic pairing with a digital modeler if you want to get a more 'real' live sound out of it. A lot of people are using them as a clean platform for their pedalboards.
My first amp was an Orange Micro dark years ago thanks to your videos! I never got the big crush head because i turned into a Marshall lover but the Orange solid state stuff is the best there is these days. Especially since all the other stuff in the same price range is digital and when those break you can't fix them
Great video bro. A must watch for anyone thinking of this form factor from Orange. You showing the settings that you used is extremely helpful. Cheers from NZ 😎🎸🤘
I own a Orange 20RT and apart from the backpanel buzzing when I play a low tone (in higher volume settings on clean channel), it sound ridiculously good for the price. I use Mini TS for a clean boost and some modulation action with EHX Neo Clone, or tighten the dirty channel for thrashy goodness, or just chilling with blues etudes with my Klon clone (EHX Soul Food). Right now building my pedal board, and next is probably going to be Big Muff, so I can Hendrix it out a bit.
I love my Super Crush 100 head. I run the XLR out into a headphone monitor mixer along with a 1/4" out from a preamp pedal that has a built-in cab sim that I use as the last item in the signal chain of a chainsaw tone, and I blend them together to practice/record/fuck around while my 2 year old is sleeping. Lucky for me, the cab sim filter actually sounds halfway decent, and I can always put an IR loader to enhance it in the FX loop if something doesn't sound right. The tones I usually go for are usually just fine with the filter.
Love my Crush 20. Scooping the mids on high gain immediately gives you that 90s goodness in style of Hum which is basically all I need from dirt channel.
My first experience with any Orange amp happened about a year ago. I decided to start playing guitar again. I bought a cheap guitar, I needed a practice amp. I purchased an Orange Crush 35RT without playing it or listening to how it sounded. I just knew I wanted something different than a Marshall or Fender, or anything else. I brought that Crush home and plugged in - my mind was blown! I knew I had found my forever sound. Now I also own a Rockerverb 50 MKiii NEO combo. The best amp in the world in my opinion. It all started with an inexpensive Orange Crush.
I like how you mentioned the real usecases for the amps and examples of their best use! Peeps in the guitar community tend to focus on "bigger is better". Thanks for sharing this in that way!
It's good to see cheaper options for fellas who are just starting out. My first (and only) amp was made from a kit I bought online, fabricated into a speaker box I bought from the thrift store for a couple of bucks, with 3d printed knobs on the back, and a power supply I salvaged from an LCD screen.
Crush 12 was my entyr into the world of Orange. 35RT was the next fix then a microdark. Settled with a pair of 12" combos in the TT and AD15. Life is complete. Good vid man, informative as ever. Keep it comming.
I wanted an Orange amp since 1970's Liverpool... and finally bought my Crush 20RT a year ago! It's possibly one of the best amps out there and the only other amp I'll ever want will be the 35RT. I use it for practice and small venues and the 20RT is more than capable. Sometimes I use a Tank-G unit into the aux-in... and that sounds excellent - however I did upgrade the amp models, including a Supercrush 100 - that's real fun for a bit of blues! ( The Tank-G's Fender emulation is just fine - so I added some clean AC15, AC30 and a Marshall 800 - and some more appropriate IRs including a Martin D35 and a top-of-the-range Taylor - and I'm now finding that 36 presets isn't enough!)
I’ve had a Crush 20 for a couple of years and love it. As for volume, don’t underestimate the 20w. I never have it above 2 out of 10 and it’s plenty loud enough for me!
I changed the speaker in my orange crush 12 with a Jenson ceramic and it made a huge difference in sound. It was very mid range heavy and to much bass. Now it sounds really good and sounds louder to me.
Absolutely agree with your take on the crush 12, it was my first amp and it kinda took me years to understand it properly. It's a great little amp though, i still use it as my practice amp at home
Not gonna get on the soapbox here, But I just want to say that I’m glad to see you back on the YT platform. Thank you Collin for making all of this TV grade content out of your heart for us all to enjoy and learn from
My first amp was a crush 35 to practice with. Such a versatile amp whether it's clean or chuggy. I moved on to other amps like the vox ac30 but the crush series has a special place in my heart.
I wish amplifier manufacturiers would publish proper audio specifications, e.g. THD+N, SNR, Bandwidth, continous power, input sensitivity, head room, etc, etc in the same way as hi-fi amplfiers are - that way we could make sensible compariisons. It would also be good to know the frequency response and power handling of the loud speakers. I agree about the Orange Crush 12, I had one for a short time, it was horrible, the 'clean' channel had significant distortion, can't really complain though because it is very cheqp.
I read a comment a while back from a guy who liked Orange amplifiers because they were wife-friendly, she liked them for the decor value. Much nicer than the usual black boxes apparently
For the past few days I've been looking for a new Orange amp (had few of those before), and a big thank you for this deep dive into them. The 35RT now doesn't seem as a good option for mostly playing at home, however, I'm still slightly tempted by bigger speakers and FX loop is a big extra. Thank you for the channels content and stay safe. Cheers
FX loop might be the deciding factor if you want to use the Crush distortion channel with a delay - I really struggled with having the delay pedal in the front of the smaller amps, but it sounded excellent through the 35RT FX loop. It is however a LOT of amp for home application - but sounds really nice when you can get it turned up.
I don’t know the guitar amps, but I’ve played the 50 and 100 crush bass combos a bunch, and honestly, they’re fantastic. They have the orange sound - so maybe you like it or don’t, but if you do it’s pretty hard to go wrong with them. Most other small combos are a lot better than they were but still feel like budget versions. These felt like just smaller orange amps, can’t fault them.
On of the biggest reasons for me not getting a Crush is that I already have a Katana, and can't justify another amp (especially on top of the 3 other amps I own right now) unless I win the lottery. Which sems especially unlikely, since I tend not to meet them halfway and buy a ticket.
I had the Crush35RT and are are 2 things I didn't like about it: 1. The shared EQ for both channels didn't work for me. 2. The input jack is right next to the volume control, so if you're not careful the cable might mess with your volume mid-playing.
have had the 35rt for years. usingi t as a cab for digital amps and effects through its fx loop and it has been worth every bit of its affordable price. good tone crazy volume, and death metal capable.
I bought a CR60 on Reverb years ago and it's still an incredible amp. The only thing is I became disinterested in the Orange "fizz" or "hiss" on the gain and the boxiness of the gain as I tried to get a thrash tone. I'm looking to switch to an ENGL or something soon but I would still highly recommend these amps to nearly anyone. Absolutely crazy affordable and still sounds incredible for what it does
I had a Crush 60 watter and honestly, it was one of the best things I’ve ever purchased. I traded it for a silverface Champ for my dorm room. Now that I’m wanting to gig again, I’m looking for one of those Super Crush amps. In your experience, are they reliable and loud? Cheers!
I had the Super Crush 100 in for demo a few years back - it was silly loud for the studio, so would have absolutely no issue handling itself at a live show when connected to a decent speaker cabinet. In terms of reliability - there is nothing in them that can fail, theoretically they should keep working forever. I've got other gear with the same opamps in them that have been going strong for almost 5 decades, the Crush will probably outlast all of us.
I have been on a kick buying old MIA crate and peavey amps from the time I was a kid. They are dirt cheap and I find they actually have held up well. some need some pots clean, maybe a pot replaced if not just the knobs.. I may get an Orange down the line. Always wanted one.
Nice!! I've had a Crush Mini for almost 20 years, barely used exaxtly because of thát 4" crackle, but I simply never thought to hook it up to a proper cab... 🤣🤣🤣 Doing that tomorrow!!! Thanks for the tip 🤘
The Mini Crush is always on my pedal/pickup building & guitar setup bench, it's perfect for me to test out if what I'm working on is functioning properly, without waking up my wife or daughter.
Found a super cool Orange amp the Rocker 32 2X10 stereo tube combo. Thanks for posting this video of SS amps. It lead me to the 32. What I’ve been looking for. Like forever. I could 5 cable this with my Boss GT100 because it’s stereo.
I love the crush series of amps. I love the no frills approach, much like quilter amps. I will always prefer a solid nad dependable analog solid state amp than a digital amp with a million options.
I brought a cheap crush amp second hand for a cheap stereo amp to go with my vox. I thought the clean channel made a brilliant pedal platform and was impressed for so little money
still thinl blackstar id core series is one of the best practice amp , got everything you need for beginner or just bed room amp, i think orange probably the only brand you cant find a USB port on their amp, crush 20 did sound nice for the price and size.
Oh boy, I was seriously considering getting the 35rt as my first serious amp (long term singer who now has to play guitar as well) but found a Fender Champion 100 second hand at the same price. I do like the Fender (never had it above 3, even playing outside last summer!) but I'm still tempted by the Orange. Have to get saving...
@@ScienceofLoud I had thought of that too, although a) it means carrying around a lot of gear and I'm not as young as you and b) knowing my bass player, he wouldn't be very happy! That said, I had the chance to use a Fender Pro Junior recently which was very nice, so now I'm actually thinking of getting one of those, and the 35rt and running stereo... Anyway, thanks for this video, your content is always interesting. Just kind of wish you could've made this particular video this two years ago!
I've actually been trying to make this video for years! Problem was Orange never had them all in stock to loan me because the Crush stuff is always selling too well! Can't blame them for prioritising their customers and retailers over me.
Ive got I. an orange crush 10. It has Bass, Middle , Treble, Master, Gain, 2 and Gain.1. That's it. It soundss amazing. The different sounds available with 2 gain knobs and a master. Why don't more amps have this?
I have an '83 fender yale reverb with gain, volume, and master volume controls, so the concept has been around a while, and it does make it easy for even a solid state amp to dial in a dynamically responsive "edge of breakup"
Isn't the Katana an all analog solid state amp section with digital effects? I remember them making a big deal about the Tube Logic technology not being digital when the Katana launched.
Came for Amps, got that boss delay demo for free😂 just happen to be gassing that one…. I had the ppc 108? And terror stamp amp pedal, but really didn’t like it (With pedals). I returned it and went with an sc20c. My opinion is meaningless however as I am crap I just love the sounds I get🤷🏽♂️ The look of orange gear is awesome!
Really interesting for me for a similar price and imo better sound I still prefer my micro dark (although I do want to get the terror stamp as same amp but with a boost!) with ppc108 cab for home practise and it also has the balls for live if I put it into my Harley Benton g112 loaded with celestion speaker.
I'd like to know if you could do a loudness comparison between solid-state and valve amps with the same power rating, using identical speakers please? After all, a "watt is a watt", isn't it?
I have 35RT and I use it strictly as a poweramp with metalzone/joyo british as preamps. That works quite well for my bedroom playing.. But as a stand alone amp I don't like it, the speaker is dark and eq does not help, the distortion is too low or suddenly too much and noisy... the reverb is good though and the clean is passable...
I’ve gotten a lot of shit from people cuz I used the orange crush mini for two years and didn’t upgrade til recently. I liked how small and portable it was, but also that when I got home I’d connect it to my karaoke machine to get a bigger sound out of it. It’s such a fun and stupid little amp. Funny thing is, i thought it was fine til a bunch of fuckin tone purists called me out on it. I’ve used this damn thing for street performing and at guitar club practice and I’ve gotten nothing but positive responses to it.
I *will* keep it loud... but I *refuse* to stay safe. Jumping around in my living room, while shredding like a lunatic, is inherently unsafe (at least with my level of coordination) but is essential for the proper metal experience!
I'm eventually buying a custom electric ukulele (Basically a ukulele had a baby with a Gibson 😂) and I really want it to SQUEAAAALLL. I grew up watching Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Eddie Van Halen, and Eric Clapton on TH-cam. I know for a fact I need to do crazy weird stuff with whammy bars and feedback 😂
I have an old 8" crush 15w, but sadly it is broken. It has a constant squeal (i.e. generates self oscillating high pitch) at higher gain settings(no matter the volume), can be somewhat filtered by high tone knob, but the squeal is still there. I'm not an electronics expert, but I'd like to know if anyone had similar problem, and what was the cause of such malfunction?
I think that they sound too out dated and old school. Reminds me of the early 80's solid state amps. But their tube amps are really good and sound great.
honestly i like orange amps better than the katana the katana is good but theres so many choices i end up playing with knobs instead of making music with the orange i just get going
i cannot stand 4in and 6in speakers. only exception would be if positive grid were to put some 6in speakers into their Spark 40, then it could handle the 40w of power that amp pushes out and it would sound better too. i cannot stand the sound of small speakers any other time tho. i would only accept 6in speakers in a spark 40. the stock 4in ones just arent enough to handle what the amp can do and i have never been able to enjoy a speaker any smaller than a 10in with a regular amp. the ppc108 8in speaker sucks, imo.
I had a 35rt for a while and didn't like it that much.. its very midrange focused .. no real treble or bass can be heard .. it's just good for one type of sound and you have to listen in person and then decide
Beyond cleans and bluesy / slight break up tones - All solid state orange amps sound garbage without heavily altering its voicing. The rockerverb and dual dark are amazing amps though.
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06:42 - Important Information
07:54 - Crush 12
10:55 - Crush 20 & 20RT
13:51 - Crush 35RT
18:48 - Play with Headphones
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Have you ever tried the Joyo Bantamp Meteror II? It's their version of the Orange amps.
That sg neck repair is still one of the most impressive displays of guitar restoration I've ever seen. Good to see it's still holding up
I love how flawless it now looks on the videos, sometimes even I forget it was ever broken.
I keep forgetting it got repaired.
The people that repair them get a lot of practice. Lol
Strutter...... well played Colin. Thanks for diggin' deep into the deep cuts.
When searching for a 70s rock song that would be a good match for the tone of these Crush amps, Strutter stood out to me as the obvious choice. Orange amps are great for that KISS sound.
Strutter is not a "deep cut". It is a common Kiss staple. Now, if you would have said "Strange Ways" I might have let it slide, but not Strutter. Sorry. 🤗😎😉
I love my orange crush 35rt, i’m an amateur guitar player who plays small shows so the 35rt is perfect for me, it’s loud enough to be heard even next to a metal drummer and i almost never worry about being too quiet, on the other hand because it’s only 35 watts even if i crank it the amp doesn’t impede on any other instruments so it’s the perfect range of dynamics for me
I got my eight year old a Crush Mini and a Squier Mini Jazzmaster for Christmas this year.
I liked the fact the amp is battery powered and can’t produce a volume that would easily cause permanent and irreparable hearing loss. Sure it sounds pretty bad, but it’s got a usable sound so he can hear himself play without worrying about it at all.
He can use my Rockerverb MKIII 100 and PPC412 under supervision.
Everything has it’s place and the Crush Mini was a perfect choice.
Sounds like a perfect Christmas gift!
I hope he enjoys it
What’s fun about it is you can just plug it into a bigger speaker in case the little tiny one isn’t enough
I've got the 35RT and I love that thing. Swapped the speaker to a G10 Creamback which just made it even better.
STRUTTER! I was not expecting that!🤘
Got my OR15 this year, and I coudn't be happier! It was my favourite amp from youtube, inspite of it's low power. The tone is incredible, orange amps rule!
It is a killer amp. I run mine through a 4x12. It makes it sound twice as loud as it should be.
@@Burnt_Gerbilright? rehearsed with mine through a 4x12 didn't have to go past 3, and kept up with a jcm900 just fine in a fairly small room
I absolutely love Orange amps. Got my rocker 15 terror years ago, and its one of my favorite amps to play ever
Orange has such great products. They’re well built compared to competitors and sounds great too. I own the OR30, AD30, Rocker 15 Terror, Tiny Terror, Super Crush 100 and am always rationalizing why I need another handful more to add to my collection. Glad you seem to feel the same way and continue to make videos featuring their products!
Played a Crush 20RT forever and I still have it, I think it's like the best beginner amp you can get, got mine for like 100$
I could also see this as a great platform for the dozens of modelers out there, for someone who just needs a good speaker but doesn't want to spend big money on a seperate cab and power amp, one of the big drawbacks of modelers is if you're running directly into a PA you're not getting that tone of "pushing air" in a physical space.
35RT has a huge amount of clean volume which could make for a fantastic pairing with a digital modeler if you want to get a more 'real' live sound out of it.
A lot of people are using them as a clean platform for their pedalboards.
The crush 35rt is great for modelers because it has an effects loop. Using a preamp pedal or my boss gx100 through it is fantastic!
My first amp was an Orange Micro dark years ago thanks to your videos! I never got the big crush head because i turned into a Marshall lover but the Orange solid state stuff is the best there is these days. Especially since all the other stuff in the same price range is digital and when those break you can't fix them
I have to say that this is one of the highest quality video I've seen over the years since I was following ya. Take care!
Great video bro. A must watch for anyone thinking of this form factor from Orange.
You showing the settings that you used is extremely helpful.
Cheers from NZ 😎🎸🤘
I own a Orange 20RT and apart from the backpanel buzzing when I play a low tone (in higher volume settings on clean channel), it sound ridiculously good for the price. I use Mini TS for a clean boost and some modulation action with EHX Neo Clone, or tighten the dirty channel for thrashy goodness, or just chilling with blues etudes with my Klon clone (EHX Soul Food).
Right now building my pedal board, and next is probably going to be Big Muff, so I can Hendrix it out a bit.
I love my Super Crush 100 head. I run the XLR out into a headphone monitor mixer along with a 1/4" out from a preamp pedal that has a built-in cab sim that I use as the last item in the signal chain of a chainsaw tone, and I blend them together to practice/record/fuck around while my 2 year old is sleeping. Lucky for me, the cab sim filter actually sounds halfway decent, and I can always put an IR loader to enhance it in the FX loop if something doesn't sound right. The tones I usually go for are usually just fine with the filter.
Love my Crush 20. Scooping the mids on high gain immediately gives you that 90s goodness in style of Hum which is basically all I need from dirt channel.
My first experience with any Orange amp happened about a year ago. I decided to start playing guitar again. I bought a cheap guitar, I needed a practice amp. I purchased an Orange Crush 35RT without playing it or listening to how it sounded. I just knew I wanted something different than a Marshall or Fender, or anything else. I brought that Crush home and plugged in - my mind was blown! I knew I had found my forever sound. Now I also own a Rockerverb 50 MKiii NEO combo. The best amp in the world in my opinion. It all started with an inexpensive Orange Crush.
I like how you mentioned the real usecases for the amps and examples of their best use! Peeps in the guitar community tend to focus on "bigger is better".
Thanks for sharing this in that way!
It's good to see cheaper options for fellas who are just starting out. My first (and only) amp was made from a kit I bought online, fabricated into a speaker box I bought from the thrift store for a couple of bucks, with 3d printed knobs on the back, and a power supply I salvaged from an LCD screen.
Got the Crush 20 yesterday, I can’t stress how full and wide it sounds with the right settings
Crush 12 was my entyr into the world of Orange. 35RT was the next fix then a microdark. Settled with a pair of 12" combos in the TT and AD15. Life is complete. Good vid man, informative as ever. Keep it comming.
What a coincidence! I was just jamming on one of these in the local guitar store a few days ago and now I’m buying myself one for Christmas
I have an orange crush 2.0 and I love it, lovely bit of kit.
I wanted an Orange amp since 1970's Liverpool... and finally bought my Crush 20RT a year ago! It's possibly one of the best amps out there and the only other amp I'll ever want will be the 35RT. I use it for practice and small venues and the 20RT is more than capable. Sometimes I use a Tank-G unit into the aux-in... and that sounds excellent - however I did upgrade the amp models, including a Supercrush 100 - that's real fun for a bit of blues! ( The Tank-G's Fender emulation is just fine - so I added some clean AC15, AC30 and a Marshall 800 - and some more appropriate IRs including a Martin D35 and a top-of-the-range Taylor - and I'm now finding that 36 presets isn't enough!)
I’ve had a Crush 20 for a couple of years and love it. As for volume, don’t underestimate the 20w. I never have it above 2 out of 10 and it’s plenty loud enough for me!
I changed the speaker in my orange crush 12 with a Jenson ceramic and it made a huge difference in sound. It was very mid range heavy and to much bass. Now it sounds really good and sounds louder to me.
Absolutely agree with your take on the crush 12, it was my first amp and it kinda took me years to understand it properly. It's a great little amp though, i still use it as my practice amp at home
Not gonna get on the soapbox here,
But I just want to say that I’m glad to see you back on the YT platform.
Thank you Collin for making all of this TV grade content out of your heart for us all to enjoy and learn from
My first amp was a crush 35 to practice with. Such a versatile amp whether it's clean or chuggy. I moved on to other amps like the vox ac30 but the crush series has a special place in my heart.
I have an Orange 60 rt. Love it. Surprised how good the clean channel is. Very good. I'm pleased 😊. Only thing is they don't have headphone jacks.
I wish amplifier manufacturiers would publish proper audio specifications, e.g. THD+N, SNR, Bandwidth, continous power, input sensitivity, head room, etc, etc in the same way as hi-fi amplfiers are - that way we could make sensible compariisons. It would also be good to know the frequency response and power handling of the loud speakers. I agree about the Orange Crush 12, I had one for a short time, it was horrible, the 'clean' channel had significant distortion, can't really complain though because it is very cheqp.
Strutter! And the lady knows its understood...
I loved my Crush when I had one, fantastic.
I read a comment a while back from a guy who liked Orange amplifiers because they were wife-friendly, she liked them for the decor value. Much nicer than the usual black boxes apparently
nice ! thanks for the demonstration :)
keep on rocking ~
For the past few days I've been looking for a new Orange amp (had few of those before), and a big thank you for this deep dive into them. The 35RT now doesn't seem as a good option for mostly playing at home, however, I'm still slightly tempted by bigger speakers and FX loop is a big extra.
Thank you for the channels content and stay safe. Cheers
FX loop might be the deciding factor if you want to use the Crush distortion channel with a delay - I really struggled with having the delay pedal in the front of the smaller amps, but it sounded excellent through the 35RT FX loop.
It is however a LOT of amp for home application - but sounds really nice when you can get it turned up.
Brother, I learn a lot from watching you here, keep up the good work! Cheers from Canada!
Thanks! I've got a lot of great ideas for 2025 that should keep you learning. Can't wait to get started on them.
I don’t know the guitar amps, but I’ve played the 50 and 100 crush bass combos a bunch, and honestly, they’re fantastic. They have the orange sound - so maybe you like it or don’t, but if you do it’s pretty hard to go wrong with them. Most other small combos are a lot better than they were but still feel like budget versions. These felt like just smaller orange amps, can’t fault them.
On of the biggest reasons for me not getting a Crush is that I already have a Katana, and can't justify another amp (especially on top of the 3 other amps I own right now) unless I win the lottery.
Which sems especially unlikely, since I tend not to meet them halfway and buy a ticket.
I have the smallest crush, and I love playing it though a 12 inch speaker, it honestly sounds like a rockerverb.
I had the Crush35RT and are are 2 things I didn't like about it:
1. The shared EQ for both channels didn't work for me.
2. The input jack is right next to the volume control, so if you're not careful the cable might mess with your volume mid-playing.
I own this amp and it actually SOOO GOOD! Might just be one of the best amplifiers released by Orange so far!
have had the 35rt for years. usingi t as a cab for digital amps and effects through its fx loop and it has been worth every bit of its affordable price. good tone crazy volume, and death metal capable.
I bought a CR60 on Reverb years ago and it's still an incredible amp. The only thing is I became disinterested in the Orange "fizz" or "hiss" on the gain and the boxiness of the gain as I tried to get a thrash tone. I'm looking to switch to an ENGL or something soon but I would still highly recommend these amps to nearly anyone. Absolutely crazy affordable and still sounds incredible for what it does
This dude has enough integrity for me to trust his choice of sponsorship.
I had a Crush 60 watter and honestly, it was one of the best things I’ve ever purchased. I traded it for a silverface Champ for my dorm room. Now that I’m wanting to gig again, I’m looking for one of those Super Crush amps. In your experience, are they reliable and loud?
Cheers!
I had the Super Crush 100 in for demo a few years back - it was silly loud for the studio, so would have absolutely no issue handling itself at a live show when connected to a decent speaker cabinet.
In terms of reliability - there is nothing in them that can fail, theoretically they should keep working forever.
I've got other gear with the same opamps in them that have been going strong for almost 5 decades, the Crush will probably outlast all of us.
I have been on a kick buying old MIA crate and peavey amps from the time I was a kid. They are dirt cheap and I find they actually have held up well. some need some pots clean, maybe a pot replaced if not just the knobs.. I may get an Orange down the line. Always wanted one.
Loud and Scientific as always sir!
My second amp ever was an Orange Crush 15R. About 17 years later and my main amp is now a TH30C haha.
Nice!!
I've had a Crush Mini for almost 20 years, barely used exaxtly because of thát 4" crackle, but I simply never thought to hook it up to a proper cab... 🤣🤣🤣
Doing that tomorrow!!!
Thanks for the tip 🤘
20:57 You can technically do that with the 35rt by plugging the FX send into your interface... But it sucks you cant do that with the smaller ones tho
The Mini Crush is always on my pedal/pickup building & guitar setup bench, it's perfect for me to test out if what I'm working on is functioning properly, without waking up my wife or daughter.
Found a super cool Orange amp the Rocker 32 2X10 stereo tube combo. Thanks for posting this video of SS amps. It lead me to the 32. What I’ve been looking for. Like forever. I could 5 cable this with my Boss GT100 because it’s stereo.
Rocker 32 is a really great amp, solid choice.
Used to gig with a 35RT. It’s everything you say it is. Clean channel takes pedals well too.
I love the crush series of amps. I love the no frills approach, much like quilter amps. I will always prefer a solid nad dependable analog solid state amp than a digital amp with a million options.
watching this already owning a cr120c that i love
I brought a cheap crush amp second hand for a cheap stereo amp to go with my vox.
I thought the clean channel made a brilliant pedal platform and was impressed for so little money
Literally got my first ever amp today, crush 35rt, and this video comes out
I'd throw a hat in for the Micro Dark with a 12" speaker too!!!
still thinl blackstar id core series is one of the best practice amp , got everything you need for beginner or just bed room amp, i think orange probably the only brand you cant find a USB port on their amp, crush 20 did sound nice for the price and size.
Love my Crush 20
Oh boy, I was seriously considering getting the 35rt as my first serious amp (long term singer who now has to play guitar as well) but found a Fender Champion 100 second hand at the same price. I do like the Fender (never had it above 3, even playing outside last summer!) but I'm still tempted by the Orange. Have to get saving...
Nothing wrong with having 2 amps - maybe even run them both as a stereo rig!
@@ScienceofLoud I had thought of that too, although a) it means carrying around a lot of gear and I'm not as young as you and b) knowing my bass player, he wouldn't be very happy! That said, I had the chance to use a Fender Pro Junior recently which was very nice, so now I'm actually thinking of getting one of those, and the 35rt and running stereo... Anyway, thanks for this video, your content is always interesting. Just kind of wish you could've made this particular video this two years ago!
I've actually been trying to make this video for years!
Problem was Orange never had them all in stock to loan me because the Crush stuff is always selling too well!
Can't blame them for prioritising their customers and retailers over me.
Ive got I. an orange crush 10. It has Bass, Middle , Treble, Master, Gain, 2 and Gain.1. That's it. It soundss amazing. The different sounds available with 2 gain knobs and a master. Why don't more amps have this?
I have an '83 fender yale reverb with gain, volume, and master volume controls, so the concept has been around a while, and it does make it easy for even a solid state amp to dial in a dynamically responsive "edge of breakup"
I've been eyeing the 35rt quite a bit lately. They're really affordable on the used market
Those p90s look so cool wth
I love analog, it's easy to repair and to troubleshoot. While digital, if the DSP goes down, the whole thing goes down.
Isn't the Katana an all analog solid state amp section with digital effects? I remember them making a big deal about the Tube Logic technology not being digital when the Katana launched.
Wait... was that Strutter at the intro? Nice.
Came for Amps, got that boss delay demo for free😂 just happen to be gassing that one….
I had the ppc 108? And terror stamp amp pedal, but really didn’t like it (With pedals).
I returned it and went with an sc20c.
My opinion is meaningless however as I am crap I just love the sounds I get🤷🏽♂️
The look of orange gear is awesome!
This video could have been handy 24hrs ago. I bought my son the CR60C for Christmas. What did I get myself into?
Really interesting for me for a similar price and imo better sound I still prefer my micro dark (although I do want to get the terror stamp as same amp but with a boost!) with ppc108 cab for home practise and it also has the balls for live if I put it into my Harley Benton g112 loaded with celestion speaker.
I'd like to know if you could do a loudness comparison between solid-state and valve amps with the same power rating, using identical speakers please? After all, a "watt is a watt", isn't it?
I have 35RT and I use it strictly as a poweramp with metalzone/joyo british as preamps. That works quite well for my bedroom playing..
But as a stand alone amp I don't like it, the speaker is dark and eq does not help, the distortion is too low or suddenly too much and noisy... the reverb is good though and the clean is passable...
They make the best transistor amps in my opinion
The crush 12 sounds great with the rat and the delay plus the rat❤❤❤🌹🤘🎸🧬🎶
I am so never going to buy an Orange amp...I only watched the video because I really like Colin.
Peavey 6505+ MH is a great head till people found out and they doubled the price. Got mine brand new for $380 US, now they going for $699.
Any smaller amps with an FX loop? Always seems to be the big ones that will be too loud for my room that have them.
They’re are simple, solid, and affordable. Something Marshall doesn’t make anymore. And I’m a lifetime Marshall player.
I’ve gotten a lot of shit from people cuz I used the orange crush mini for two years and didn’t upgrade til recently.
I liked how small and portable it was, but also that when I got home I’d connect it to my karaoke machine to get a bigger sound out of it. It’s such a fun and stupid little amp.
Funny thing is, i thought it was fine til a bunch of fuckin tone purists called me out on it. I’ve used this damn thing for street performing and at guitar club practice and I’ve gotten nothing but positive responses to it.
Have you tried any Quilter Products?
I should have checked the timestamps, was waiting on the 60.
Will crush 35 rt still sounds good at lower volume? Or do I need to get attenuator eventually 😅
I *will* keep it loud... but I *refuse* to stay safe. Jumping around in my living room, while shredding like a lunatic, is inherently unsafe (at least with my level of coordination) but is essential for the proper metal experience!
I'm eventually buying a custom electric ukulele (Basically a ukulele had a baby with a Gibson 😂) and I really want it to SQUEAAAALLL. I grew up watching Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Eddie Van Halen, and Eric Clapton on TH-cam. I know for a fact I need to do crazy weird stuff with whammy bars and feedback 😂
I was expecting these to be priced to compete with the Katana, but no! These are very reasonably priced!
Who would've thunk it that the plain transistor amps will be lovingly referred to as "analog" :D
It’s simple: transistor=bad, analog=good.
The 35RT has plenty of headroom already.
dude im at haywards heath can i have one of those for christmas❤❤❤ the Crush 20 or 35 would be a big blessing
I have an old 8" crush 15w, but sadly it is broken. It has a constant squeal (i.e. generates self oscillating high pitch) at higher gain settings(no matter the volume), can be somewhat filtered by high tone knob, but the squeal is still there. I'm not an electronics expert, but I'd like to know if anyone had similar problem, and what was the cause of such malfunction?
I think that they sound too out dated and old school. Reminds me of the early 80's solid state amps. But their tube amps are really good and sound great.
honestly i like orange amps better than the katana
the katana is good but theres so many choices i end up playing with knobs instead of making music
with the orange i just get going
This channel used to be called CS Guitars right?
Yes
Yes, we rebranded to Science of Loud in early 2024
@@ScienceofLoud it's a good rebrand
"A little bit of reverb and being in tune is 90% of what it takes to sound good on guitar". As with so many things, the details go a long way.
Damn.. Nobody gives love to the Crush 60 Pro. I think the 60 Pro sounds better than the 120 and Super Crush 100. But sadly it lacks the headroom.
i cannot stand 4in and 6in speakers. only exception would be if positive grid were to put some 6in speakers into their Spark 40, then it could handle the 40w of power that amp pushes out and it would sound better too. i cannot stand the sound of small speakers any other time tho. i would only accept 6in speakers in a spark 40. the stock 4in ones just arent enough to handle what the amp can do and i have never been able to enjoy a speaker any smaller than a 10in with a regular amp. the ppc108 8in speaker sucks, imo.
The one thing I have hated from EVERY Orange amp I have tried is that they sound very compressed. These appear to be no different.
I had a 35rt for a while and didn't like it that much.. its very midrange focused .. no real treble or bass can be heard .. it's just good for one type of sound and you have to listen in person and then decide
Beyond cleans and bluesy / slight break up tones - All solid state orange amps sound garbage without heavily altering its voicing. The rockerverb and dual dark are amazing amps though.