A beautiful, beautiful piece of early 20th Century Engineering !Since I am never likely to be able to afford one for my collection, it is wonderful to see Mark disassemble and explain one so thoroughly. Many thanks, once again!
Nice to see the ingenuity that went into taking a known technology and adapting it this way. But it also drives home just how genius Browning was to come up with his clean-slate design for a magazine-fed auto. Great video, Mark - loving the detail. :-)
They must have cost a fortune from Webley, the amounts of complex, precision machining is just mind-blowing. All made without a CAD programme or CNC machine in sight!
Great video! Man the springs in that thing! I could see the balancing act between the sear spring and (I'll call it the disconnector) spring on the rear part of the trigger. The disconnector spring too strong or the sear spring too weak and, like you said A.D. or possibly a full auto revolver... You really did a fine job showing and explaining the mechanism for all the folks who can't personally examine one. Another thing that is amazing is the quality of the machining and the flat springs. I mean that was some Great manufacturing work for 120+ years ago. With some half moon clips, this thing could run nearly as fast as a 1911, on the reloads. Again, Great video and Thank you for the work you do sharing this with the world. Take Care buddy, John
Hi Mark, my favorite part of these amazing restoration/conservation projects is that you actually take these wonderful pieces of history and fire them! Great smithing and engineering. I have a beat up 1875 Remington in 44/40 that my grandfather handed down to me that his grandfather gave to him. I would love to have it restored but I don’t think I could afford to have the work done. Love your work! Thanks.
You're a brave man so you are. I have the absolute worst luck with springs going pinging off to god knows where in my shop. And it's usually the sodding expensive small ones that are impossible to find when they bugger off at high velocity too. Anyway, thank you for a fascinating video.
I had the distinct pleasure to shoot one of these at Bisley many years ago. I wouldnt say I would have swapped it for my Remington Rand 1911, but it was a delight to shoot.
Thank you so much for showing this, the thought that must have gone into that mechanism is amazing. A great video as usual and a lot of detail, thanks for sharing. You must be making a regular sacrifice to the carpet monster...I ignored mine once and he is still holding a grudge, the number of screws he has devoured is unbelievable! Keep up the good work Mark and team, looking forward to seeing more master gunsmith videos.
Thank you Brother Novak, that was good. You have great tools, the universal work holding device, 2oz hammer (can't recall it's name), the sense of humor, and cello. I miss cello, but this was good anyway.
Great work! I really like that gun. I'd never really thought about it much before. I knew it existed because it's the first auto loading revolver but it's really a nice gun.
I love to restore old guns. I never seem to keep them, except for a 303 Enfield I restored for my son. I either sell them, or trade them for more projects. I need a new project now.
"Zardoz speaks to you, his chosen ones. You have been raised up from brutality, to kill the brutals who multiply, and are legion. To this end, Zardoz your god gave you the gift of the gun. The gun is good."
We watched it at Erics place the night we filmed the episode. It is a weird movie, yes it is. However, mix the movie with good scotch and a good cigar, and all of a sudden, it wasn't so bad after all.......
well, I've just found out that the Mateba 6 Unica wasn't the only recoilless revolver ever made ... the Webley/Fosbery was too, ( 100 years earlier) ... nice gun , great explanatory video ... I had to subscribe! Mark deserves it ! great job, Mark !
Thank the lord for john browning cause he made auto stuff a lot...Simpler.....That Webley sure has a lot of parts......It is not simple in it's operation.....Thanks my friend you are the best...!
The Sean Connery character used a Webley/ Fosbery in the 1974 sci fi fantasy film Zardoz. It is a very long time since I watched it. I just remember it as being very weird, at the time.
It was also in the Maltese Falcon, but Bogie got the details wrong, saying it's an 8 shot 45 - the 45 version is a six shot, the 38 cal version is an 8 shot.
Have you guys ever considered making an index of topics/processes covered in the anvil videos? I was looking for one of your discussions about conservation methods that I could use on an old Billings coes adjustable wrench that my grand dad gave me.
Sam Spade's partner Miles Archer, was shot with a Webley/Fosbery .455 Automatic Revolver in The Maltese Falcon. Thank you all for showing us how this factenating handgun works.
Thank you, thank you, absolutely the best video but you didn’t address the revolver’s ability to go full auto. Mine did [for 3 rds- all that was in it]. I cleaned the sticky gunk out of it, reoiled it and now it’s ok. No way would I tear mine down that far. An amazing firearm.
That was fun. Thanks for making this video. It has to be a lot more difficult trying to work your craft while having to set up and work with the camera in your way.
O.K. Great Video. I wonder about this gun 15 yrs before the semi auto 1911. I see fit and finish on some of these pre 1911 firearms and wonder if not having a 1911 type of semi auto in 1845 is a result of lack of proper creativity. The workmanship , fit and finish, and complexity, makes me wonder about this. Thanks. Interesting.
Rarest gun I've worked on, at least in the top ten. Very comfortable to operate. Remember, smokeless powder made it's debut in 1891ish, and it took that to make self loaders practical
guess it would be good for a one armed man with frozen thumb? quite ingenious design though quite complicated. how much time was involved developing this revolver? (was it a team effort or 1 man)
This is the only revolver that I know of that has a “ safety catch “. Over the years I have read many spy/mystery novels where the hero/heroine must remove the safety catch on all kinds of revolvers before shooting the bad guy.
There are a handful, but in a lot of those novels it's clear from context that the author doesn't even mean a revolver anyway--the character has a semiauto, and the author (or translator--I see it a lot in detective novels translated from French) thinks "revolver" is a term for any handgun. Sometimes they're even identified by name, as in the elusive Browning 7.62mm revolver.
No matter how cool this firearm is it'll never fail to bring up the image of Sean Connery in red hooker boots that is burned into the hellscape of my mind.
@@wittywilf The book is better and doesn't say much about Zed's attire, but a remake would be awesome (with better costumes). And who doesn't love a giant floating stone head (their god Zardoz) that vomits weapons, ammunition and tells his followers the Gun is Good?
Hm charged springs are a bit lethal, I remember trying to compress a motorcycle fork spring, slipping, and a 50cm beast firing past my head and ricocheting around the garage. I then found the jesus clip in a spider web some time later...
Hi Mark loving your great informative videos. Once the gun is cleaned all of rust ,what is your favorite gun oil ? I have used a variety of different products but what are your favorite rust preventing and preservation gun oil brands.
always amazed those guys designed with pen and paper, no software modeling...I'd have a stroke.. can it handle .357M or .44M, that would be interesting... also, the fps of bullet versus a single shot of same caliber: cylinder gap energy loss, plus (?) slide momentum energy loss...
No, no it can't. Vintage Webleys (Fosbery or otherwise) are made for _much_ lower pressures than that. .455-caliber Webley Mk VIs can't even handle .45 ACP, which is really unfortunate given that the vast bulk of them in the US were converted to chamber .45 ACP.
@@marknovak8255 lol. The thing is so many old guns get turn into non functional sculptures because people pull them apart & lose or break bits, simply because someone wants to test out an ultrasonic cleaning machine they just bought. Isn’t It sort of tempting fate to pull one apart right down so even all the subassemblies are torn down?
A beautiful, beautiful piece of early 20th Century Engineering !Since I am never likely to be able to afford one for my collection, it is wonderful to see Mark disassemble and explain one so thoroughly. Many thanks, once again!
I have been collecting books for about 35 years. I got everything from an MP five to a colt walker. Love it what you do is amazing.
I love the casual mention of "Zardoz" in there :-)
Nice to see the ingenuity that went into taking a known technology and adapting it this way. But it also drives home just how genius Browning was to come up with his clean-slate design for a magazine-fed auto. Great video, Mark - loving the detail. :-)
The engineering that went into this weapon is just.....wow..
They must have cost a fortune from Webley, the amounts of complex, precision machining is just mind-blowing. All made without a CAD programme or CNC machine in sight!
Imagine what something that complex would cost today.
Great video!
Man the springs in that thing! I could see the balancing act between the sear spring and (I'll call it the disconnector) spring on the rear part of the trigger. The disconnector spring too strong or the sear spring too weak and, like you said A.D. or possibly a full auto revolver...
You really did a fine job showing and explaining the mechanism for all the folks who can't personally examine one.
Another thing that is amazing is the quality of the machining and the flat springs. I mean that was some Great manufacturing work for 120+ years ago.
With some half moon clips, this thing could run nearly as fast as a 1911, on the reloads.
Again, Great video and Thank you for the work you do sharing this with the world. Take Care buddy, John
The engineering that went into this gun is nothing short of amazing. I'd love to have one.
Your experience and knowledge of arms never cease to amaze me. One of my favourite channels to watch
Hi Mark, my favorite part of these amazing restoration/conservation projects is that you actually take these wonderful pieces of history and fire them! Great smithing and engineering. I have a beat up 1875 Remington in 44/40 that my grandfather handed down to me that his grandfather gave to him. I would love to have it restored but I don’t think I could afford to have the work done. Love your work! Thanks.
You're a brave man so you are. I have the absolute worst luck with springs going pinging off to god knows where in my shop. And it's usually the sodding expensive small ones that are impossible to find when they bugger off at high velocity too.
Anyway, thank you for a fascinating video.
Take springs off inside of a two gallon ziplock bag with your hands inside the opening. Catches all but the few that zing out past your wrists.
That, sir, is one hellova contraption. Thanks for giving a unique view for posterity.
Those are the absolute most steampunk handgun ever made!
And the Mateba is the most cyberpunk!
Urban Lagoon Lol Well, close! How about siblings?
Lujitic space gun
I had the distinct pleasure to shoot one of these at Bisley many years ago. I wouldnt say I would have swapped it for my Remington Rand 1911, but it was a delight to shoot.
Always a good show Mark 👍 the Fosbury had some serious engi-nerding involved back in the day.
Thanks for your time mate much appreciated.
Awesome piece of history, Mark! Thank you for sharing!
20:15 gives a clear view of the rear of the cylinder, just for reference. Thanks for being a supporter and pass the link along please!
@@marknovak8255 Oh, I wish I wish, i WISH that I could fire one of these, nevermind actually OWN one. Thank you for bringing it to us!
People make jokes about German/Russian Space Magic guns like the HK G11 or the AN-94 but this is Edwardian Era English Steam Punk Magic at its finest.
Technically victorian
@@wierdalien1 I guess that depends on if you are going from the patent date or first production date.
Nice ending finger snap edit, its pretty cool to see some light hearted ness.
Thank you so much for showing this, the thought that must have gone into that mechanism is amazing.
A great video as usual and a lot of detail, thanks for sharing.
You must be making a regular sacrifice to the carpet monster...I ignored mine once and he is still holding a grudge, the number of screws he has devoured is unbelievable!
Keep up the good work Mark and team, looking forward to seeing more master gunsmith videos.
To be honest.... really interesting gun..
You make awesome videos and tell it like it is.
Best regards from Iceland
Woohoo! Wonderful work, Mark!
Thank you Brother Novak, that was good. You have great tools, the universal work holding device, 2oz hammer (can't recall it's name), the sense of humor, and cello. I miss cello, but this was good anyway.
Had one many years ago. Fires six shots QUICKLY.
The ending gag on this one was outstanding!
Great work! I really like that gun. I'd never really thought about it much before. I knew it existed because it's the first auto loading revolver but it's really a nice gun.
Mark you never cease to amaze and enlighten.
Fascinating stuff! I wish I knew half of what you might have forgotten about the art of gunsmithing!
I never knew there was a revolver like this! I thought I knew how firearms worked since I was a kid...interesting.Nice channel.
Such a cool piece of kit, I wish there was a cheaper way to own one even if it wasn't a true historical piece.
This channel is awesome! Makes me smile!!
Pleasure to watch, thank you very much.
Love Webleys ever since I purchased a civilian. . 38 Mk3 2 inch barrel, used it to out shoot a few club members at Police pistol one competition,
I missed the "out" on both first and second skim read of your comment and had to do a third take slowly lol
@@noth606 there was a club rule about not shooting the other club members. Bad form in the club house.
Ow my goodness I would love to have a 455 Webbly may be one day thank you so much for this video
What a cool, clever design.
I love to restore old guns. I never seem to keep them, except for a 303 Enfield I restored for my son. I either sell them, or trade them for more projects. I need a new project now.
"Zardoz speaks to you, his chosen ones. You have been raised up from brutality, to kill the brutals who multiply, and are legion. To this end, Zardoz your god gave you the gift of the gun. The gun is good."
Now I need to watch that again; it's a weird arse film.
We watched it at Erics place the night we filmed the episode. It is a weird movie, yes it is. However, mix the movie with good scotch and a good cigar, and all of a sudden,
it wasn't so bad after all.......
@@marknovak8255 LOL! That's the spirit!
Zardoz has spoken.
I was wondering if he was going to mention it 3:20
well, I've just found out that the Mateba 6 Unica wasn't the only recoilless revolver ever made ... the Webley/Fosbery was too, ( 100 years earlier) ... nice gun , great explanatory video ... I had to subscribe! Mark deserves it ! great job, Mark !
You're damn right. But I guess you meant 'recoil-operated". Recoilless guns are an entirely different breed of boomstick. ;)
@@georgg.5730 that's what I meant, recoil op. is the right definition ! Thanks !
Thank the lord for john browning cause he made auto stuff a lot...Simpler.....That Webley sure has a lot of parts......It is not simple in it's operation.....Thanks my friend you are the best...!
Just realize you focus the camera by hand! Love your videos!
Thanks Mark, another great video :)
That is really a complicated machine. Very cool
The Sean Connery character used a Webley/ Fosbery in the 1974 sci fi fantasy film Zardoz. It is a very long time since I watched it. I just remember it as being very weird, at the time.
It was also in the Maltese Falcon, but Bogie got the details wrong, saying it's an 8 shot 45 - the 45 version is a six shot, the 38 cal version is an 8 shot.
Fantastic as always! Gotta love the sometimes unreliable magic finger snap.
Have you guys ever considered making an index of topics/processes covered in the anvil videos? I was looking for one of your discussions about conservation methods that I could use on an old Billings coes adjustable wrench that my grand dad gave me.
The channels on that cylinder remind me of the grooves on the top of a Browning .50 Cal. M2 bolt assembly.
Well that's the first time I've smiled all week. Thank you sir.
The Germans really do have some complicated mechanical engineering.
England: Hold my tea/hot beer.
Have you ever heard of the great illustrator Heath Robinson, I wonder if he ever worked at Webley/Fosbery?
@@davewilliams6172 I'll look him up.
Sam Spade's partner Miles Archer, was shot with a Webley/Fosbery .455 Automatic Revolver in The Maltese Falcon. Thank you all for showing us how this factenating handgun works.
Thank you, thank you, absolutely the best video but you didn’t address the revolver’s ability to go full auto. Mine did [for 3 rds- all that was in it]. I cleaned the sticky gunk out of it, reoiled it and now it’s ok. No way would I tear mine down that far. An amazing firearm.
Probably the most "steam punk" gun that actually exists.
Needs more brass and a gauge or two.
That was fun.
Thanks for making this video. It has to be a lot more difficult trying to work your craft while having to set up and work with the camera in your way.
Love your work mark
I believe you were right about the coil springs the big one is a portable slinky :)
O.K. Great Video. I wonder about this gun 15 yrs before the semi auto 1911.
I see fit and finish on some of these pre 1911 firearms and wonder if not having a
1911 type of semi auto in 1845 is a result of lack of proper creativity.
The workmanship , fit and finish, and complexity, makes me wonder about this.
Thanks. Interesting.
Rarest gun I've worked on, at least in the top ten. Very comfortable to operate. Remember, smokeless powder made it's debut in 1891ish, and it took that to make self loaders practical
@@marknovak8255 Thank You for taking the time to reply. I will continue watching the videos . I enjoy them , and learn so much.
Man, some wealthy gun enthusiant with a penchant for autorevolvers sure likes you Mark. ;)
Excellent video! Thank you Mark!
"boiled all the Glock and the Zardoz off of it"
😆😂😆😂😆😂😆😂😆😂
I didn't realize that guns needed brain bleach.
ZARDOZ SPEAKS TO YOU!!!
I only know about this thing because of Zardoz. When Sean Connery works the action i went "wtf semiauto revolver????"
You didnt discuss how that post with the lozenge (sp) indexes the cylinder ☹
guess it would be good for a one armed man with frozen thumb? quite ingenious design though quite complicated. how much time was involved developing this revolver? (was it a team effort or 1 man)
would this be fast as shooting "double action" revolver?
Designed by a senior British army officer Lieutenant General George Fosbery, productionised by the Webley company.
Mark you would have been hell on Bewitched just saying. how did you get all the Glock out of it. I have a 1911 full of Carcono
love that outro
Imagine inventing this, wow.....
This is the steampunkiest Steampunk,
that ever steampunked.
It does not get more steampunker !
GREAT VIDEO !!!
I saw one of these in a local gun store today. Price was high, but I don’t know what they go for.
Jack Mahan It depends on how much you want the gun.
Excellent condition unmolested versions are going for 12-16k at auction, the last few times I've seen them.
Was that a "Mad Max" Martini on the left, in the intro?
yes, belongs to iv8888
@@marknovak8255 video from him or you soon?
@@marknovak8255 It's a beauty, thank you for your conservation and maintenance, and especially thank you for uploading it.
Great video!
wonder what that would retail for if produced these days?
A select fire version of this would be amazing to see.
This is the only revolver that I know of that has a “ safety catch “. Over the years I have read many spy/mystery novels where the hero/heroine must remove the safety catch on all kinds of revolvers before shooting the bad guy.
There are a handful, but in a lot of those novels it's clear from context that the author doesn't even mean a revolver anyway--the character has a semiauto, and the author (or translator--I see it a lot in detective novels translated from French) thinks "revolver" is a term for any handgun. Sometimes they're even identified by name, as in the elusive Browning 7.62mm revolver.
I've never seen you shoot before and your stance is rock solid which shows in the results. Military or police trained?
I don't know offhand if he was ever a cop, but he's a Navy vet.
No matter how cool this firearm is it'll never fail to bring up the image of Sean Connery in red hooker boots that is burned into the hellscape of my mind.
The film was Zardoz. My mind is permanently scarred.
@@wittywilf The book is better and doesn't say much about Zed's attire, but a remake would be awesome (with better costumes). And who doesn't love a giant floating stone head (their god Zardoz) that vomits weapons, ammunition and tells his followers the Gun is Good?
'Loved it, specially the detail of how the mechanism worked. However, you were going to explain how the roller worked with the Zig Zag? ;-)
Boiled the glock and zardoz out of it? Classic.
To straighten the top strap you need a piece of square tube steel 1/2 to 3/8 and play Arcamedies.
Send it to Mark. Or you will cry, or be very lucky.
great work sir. Can you re post, or direct me to where your shop tour/gunsmithing tools video is please? Thank you.
26:30 to 27:00 ; Are those old school guns you're planning to make videos on ?
Hm charged springs are a bit lethal, I remember trying to compress a motorcycle fork spring, slipping, and a 50cm beast firing past my head and ricocheting around the garage. I then found the jesus clip in a spider web some time later...
"boiled the Zardoz out of it..."
Hi Mark loving your great informative videos. Once the gun is cleaned all of rust ,what is your favorite gun oil ? I have used a variety of different products but what are your favorite rust preventing and preservation gun oil brands.
He uses the green Lucas Gun Oil. Ive been using the red Lucas and I have to say, it sticks to the metal pretty well. Cheap, effective and available
i had an old webley mk4 and the springs are freaking nastey on it
Excellent and elegant.
always amazed those guys designed with pen and paper, no software modeling...I'd have a stroke..
can it handle .357M or .44M, that would be interesting...
also, the fps of bullet versus a single shot of same caliber: cylinder gap energy loss, plus (?) slide momentum energy loss...
No, no it can't. Vintage Webleys (Fosbery or otherwise) are made for _much_ lower pressures than that. .455-caliber Webley Mk VIs can't even handle .45 ACP, which is really unfortunate given that the vast bulk of them in the US were converted to chamber .45 ACP.
Without you. The world of guns would be doomed
I'd love to have that gun. Super cool.
Nice video. Any chance you could get to my Ultramatic you've had for more than a year?
One thing I must ask, why take the whole thing apart to replace a outer plate screw?
There is a slight humor component to this. You got to see a Fosbury naked, that is the point
@@marknovak8255 lol. The thing is so many old guns get turn into non functional sculptures because people pull them apart & lose or break bits, simply because someone wants to test out an ultrasonic cleaning machine they just bought. Isn’t It sort of tempting fate to pull one apart right down so even all the subassemblies are torn down?
@@mickvonbornemann3824 That would be my view. Especially as it was apparently in pieces recently but not filmed.
waaaaay too many parts...
I'm wondering if the snap cuts at the end were supposed to be a "name the gun" game.
I counted the parts I can see three times and came up with a different number each time, but between 35 and 40 parts. And this is LESS COMPLICATED?
91pieces in the Mateba, so, yeah
Another great video!!!
Have you ever had to go back and use a video to figure out where something happened or what happened
ALL the time. Saving up for a super slo mo camera, great troubleshooting tool
I have a Webley 38 S&W its ugly and I love it. I got it in the 80s via shotgun news magazine $69.00 my dad paid to give me a christmas present
Damn I loved SGN!
@@quiettime6871 yup the good ole days
Outstanding!
Good deal boss. Thanks for the info.
Bravo!!!
Thanks!
i know know about how she works. i have never seen one. very cool guy.
Universal work holding system...
Did you do a video on the Mateba?
Yup
That outro! LMAO! Getting ToT vibes :)
Trigger let off looks fairly light ?