I Spend 5 Years Thinking My Ex-Best Friend Tried To S A Me.

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  • I [28/f] spent 5 years thinking my Ex-Best Friend [29/m] tried to SA’ed(rope) me.(/u/SARAThrowaway34)
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  • @Mike.Erman.Trout.
    @Mike.Erman.Trout. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +135

    The real victims here are the viewers watching the atrocious parkour 💀

    • @SecretVoices25
      @SecretVoices25  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      😓sry

    • @Why_stop_at_41
      @Why_stop_at_41 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SecretVoices25 minus 500 social credit, report to reeducation camp

    • @mynamefraf9122
      @mynamefraf9122 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@SecretVoices25bro it's ok cheer up have a good day

  • @CainEverest
    @CainEverest 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    Man, Mark is such a good soul. I hope nothing but the best for him

  • @glassestarzan8702
    @glassestarzan8702 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    I am someone who has been both SAd and falsely accused of it. Both are horrible, humiliating, painful, and dehumanizing things to experience. All I can say is that both are victims but those criticizing OP's critics need to re-evaluate themselves. Being falsely accused of a crime is traumatic and fucked up experience. I cannot blame OP here as she likely had no reason to think Paul was lying but if the relationship with Mark as longer established, why believe Paul blindly? The only critic who deserves to be given crap is the person who said Mark had a worse situation than OP. Both are messed up situations.
    For those getting upset at OP's critics and trying to minimize the fear and trauma that lingers after being falsely accused, I hope you never exlerience that pain. The anxiety, the depression, the self-hatred and doubt, the general dysmorphia ans psychological breakdown. It is a lifetime of pain and fear regardless of how many people know. Even if there are no police, no rumours, the pain and fear never go away.

    • @SecretVoices25
      @SecretVoices25  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I'm sorry for what happened to you. I can see you are very strong and hope you are doing well❤️❤️

    • @10101polo1
      @10101polo1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      How did yoi recover from the false accusation? I have a similar thing as Mark, (Same name actually). And I miss my best friend so much still. Its been 6 months since I lost all my civliian friends, I'm in the military and just feel isolated. I'm blocked by everyone on everything

    • @glassestarzan8702
      @glassestarzan8702 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@10101polo1 I wish I could help, I am sorry this happened to you. I will tell you what I did but to warn you ahead of time, I will come off as evangelical here.
      I started teetering between Agnosticism and Atheism that day. I lost faith in humanity. Later that year I went to Christmas mass for my Mom as she had no idea I no longer considered myself to believe in God. I learned about Jesus from a different perspective. I still did not like the idea of believing in God yet so I tried to learn to meditate instead. Eventually though I found myself interested in theology and philosophy. I started seeing Christ as a philosopher. His teachings of humility, forgiveness, and love, combined with the meditation brought me so much peace. Something I never felt after my SA and false accusations. I learned to be at peace with myself, to love myself, and to reflect myself as I was. Not from this world, but from the minimum. I was able to rebuild myself.
      To be fair, I am not fully healed. I still have certain issues related to my trauma, but it doesn't own me like it did before. And by the grace of God, I will likely never be at the mercy of my trauma again.

  • @spaRKLES88604
    @spaRKLES88604 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    Imagine feeling like you are the villain, No, both you and mark are victims in your own right

    • @istoppedcaring6209
      @istoppedcaring6209 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      she is not the vilain but she hurt mark a lot more than paul did, he deserved to be heard, he deserved to be treated with respect, hell he deserves more than she can offer cause he saved her, he fought and lost against paul and when stating he saved her she simply didn't hear him out

    • @hauldencottenfield869
      @hauldencottenfield869 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      She’s absolutely a villain. There are plenty of reasons why women don’t report SA, and 99% of the time they are ridiculous but don’t know until therapy, but the idea that your BF says don’t do it, and you decide not to is never okay.

    • @ultraboy2669
      @ultraboy2669 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@hauldencottenfield869 yeah, it was not OK but she was lied to, and being manipulated how dare you call her a villain you’re acting like marks life was ruined when it wasn’t

    • @kylewilliams5454
      @kylewilliams5454 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She was drunk and her boyfriend lied to her. How was she supposed to know? LIke really?

    • @istoppedcaring6209
      @istoppedcaring6209 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kylewilliams5454 she heard two claims and didn't even question it, she forsook someone that had been her best friend for years without as much as questioning it

  • @vaxel0068
    @vaxel0068 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    No good deed goes unpunished. Not gonna lie, examples like these are why I have a "don't get involved" policy. Man, woman or child, I hope you can save yourself because I'm not putting myself at risk for you.
    If that ends up with someone losing their life then... better them than me.

    • @woodah33
      @woodah33 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it really sucks because i hate to see injustice ruin a helpless person, but there's just so much misinformation in the world that can ruin innocent lives that it really isn't worth it man. Just the other day a guy in NY got arrested for stopping a homeless man from attacking a woman...

    • @benaffblack
      @benaffblack 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Cant live your life like man. Because if you're on the other foot, you'd want someone to help you in your dire hour of need.
      We are humans. Its not a perfect life and we will stumble. But we only survive and live by picking each other up and helping each other.

    • @AA-ed6ek
      @AA-ed6ek 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@benaffblack He can do what he wants.

    • @10101polo1
      @10101polo1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@benaffblack not with women like OP around.

    • @Litlike96
      @Litlike96 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@benaffblackdawg did you even WATCH the video!?🤨

  • @macylouwho1187
    @macylouwho1187 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Listening to this makes me glad at how untypically smart that I was as a young woman when at parties. I saw so many girls get toasted on booze and then go to a room with a guy or guy(s) and have sexual encounters behind closed doors. It’s so so common for people to end up abused in some way when they are so drunk or high that they can’t stop it. Because of what other people did and the aftermath of how it ruined their reputations-I quickly learned to have one drink and make it last a long time so guys would stop trying to push drinks on me. If I had one in my hand-no one tried to get me one. I would barely sip it for around two hours. I never got drunk that way, the drinks were too spaced out.

  • @javierdespanjaard4384
    @javierdespanjaard4384 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Whoever did the gameplay should apply for a gaming journalist gig

  • @chedabu
    @chedabu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    She owes him an apology and reparations

    • @ultraboy2669
      @ultraboy2669 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah she did apologize did you watch the whole video?

    • @kelseygraham875
      @kelseygraham875 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@ultraboy2669 too little. She was only concerned with herself. Notice how much she focused on how her suit against him for attempted rape, and didn't give a damn about his suit against Paul for his beating that he took trying to protect her. Did she reach out to the people who SHE told that he abused her to let them know he got beaten trying to protect her? No

    • @ultraboy2669
      @ultraboy2669 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@kelseygraham875 she didn’t try to ruin his reputation

    • @ultraboy2669
      @ultraboy2669 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kelseygraham875 The only thing she’s guilty of is not hearing him out when he called her on the phone

    • @kelseygraham875
      @kelseygraham875 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@ultraboy2669 and of spreading the lie that he had assaulted her, because he tried protecting her

  • @user-jx6bt2tw5q
    @user-jx6bt2tw5q 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Me when I need to ask my therapist if I can breathe or if I have to wait for them to give me permission

  • @10101polo1
    @10101polo1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    As someone who is also named Mark, who also had a very similar experience of being falsely accused by my best friend. She was worse to him then paul was to him because paul didnt betray him as a friend, she did. It was either out of laziness or cruelty that she didnt listen to Mark. Stop saying this didn't ruin his life. It destroyed and crippled his emotional state and mental health. It's been 7 months, and i still think about it every day. And i miss her. But sure, losing your entire friend group because of a false accusation doesn't ruin your life.

  • @peeonthe3rdrail414
    @peeonthe3rdrail414 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    "I only told three people" Doesn't matter, you ruined his reputation.

    • @WilliamBrowning
      @WilliamBrowning 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Except she didn't.

    • @kylewilliams5454
      @kylewilliams5454 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No she didn't. Not to mention, she was lied to.

    • @kelseygraham875
      @kelseygraham875 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WilliamBrowning she spread the story that he was a rapist. And he was not, he was the one trying to STOP the rape.

    • @kelseygraham875
      @kelseygraham875 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kylewilliams5454 she willingly embraced the lie. She obviously thought he was a rapist, or else she would want to have answers on why he would do something so out of character. She knew either a guy she knew for months, or a guy she knew for years, assaulted her. She took the word of one potential culprit over another. And surprise, he was the one who had really did it

  • @notzenisama
    @notzenisama 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    BRO YOU GOTTA TRAIN HARD YOUR PARKOURS ARE GETTING WORSE DAY BY DAY

  • @hauldencottenfield869
    @hauldencottenfield869 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    “Paul’s BS never got to detail his life”
    No sweetheart it was your BS. So you’re told a man tried to SA you, and decided to listen to your BF who said not to report it despite not seeing who did it? You caused him more strife for not only no reason, but also because of your own ignorance. Paul is a monster, but you’re certainly not the victim here.
    Great vid

    • @noviibutnotactive8385
      @noviibutnotactive8385 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      No way are you saying the girl who almost got raped isn't a victim. 💀

    • @flabbergast_se
      @flabbergast_se 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@noviibutnotactive8385 Where did they say that?
      Life isn't black or white.
      A rape victim that gets tricked into believing someone else did the rape and then does something to the accused rapist is both a victim but also an assaulter.

    • @noviibutnotactive8385
      @noviibutnotactive8385 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@flabbergast_se They edited their comment.

    • @kelseygraham875
      @kelseygraham875 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@noviibutnotactive8385 she was a victim of Paul, but the greater part of the situation, that SHE caused, she is not the victim of. She knew it was one of those two who assaulted her, so she just took the word of one of the potential abusers over the other, then spread the story that he attacked her. And she spread it about the INNOCENT party who got injured trying to protect a woman who was not worth protecting.

  • @jamieh9253
    @jamieh9253 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

    OP behaved like a reasonable person here. She had no reason to believe Mark over that monster especially since framing someone for an SA by actually SAing someone is such a genuinely psychotic thing to do. It sounds unbelievable.

    • @shadowscall7758
      @shadowscall7758 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yes, she did. She was in a relationship with Mark, not Paul. You should be more willing to believe the person you are in a relationship with over a random person.

    • @Skywollfs
      @Skywollfs 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      ​@@shadowscall7758She was in a relationship with PAUL not Mark. He got jealous of their close friendship and SA'd her. After mark tried to stop him he beat him up and woke her up to say Mark SAd her.

    • @smurfaccount9269
      @smurfaccount9269 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shadowscall7758 L

    • @kelseygraham875
      @kelseygraham875 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      She was in relationships with both, Mark for years as a friend, and Paul for months as a boyfriend. Then she decided the guy she knew for years was an abuser, without actually listening to what he had to say. He put himself at risk to protect her, and she threw him aside like trash. She deserves to have to deal with the horror of knowing she married her rapist

    • @10101polo1
      @10101polo1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      No she was not. Ignorance can be forgiven (not knowing who tied her up). Purposeful ignorance is not an acceptable excuse. (choosing to believe her close friend at face value who she had known for a while was a completely devious human) she hurt Mark more than Paul ever did. Reasonable is asking questions and seeking justice. Unreasonable is making assumptions

  • @NaviRoth
    @NaviRoth 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is why false accudasations should be punished harsly!

  • @Spectacular769
    @Spectacular769 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I noticed that you haven't been linking to the original post in your video descriptions anymore. You do, at least have the original author's name, but I actually really liked that you were citing your sources. It was something that made your channel stand out against all the other "robot voice reads reddit posts" type channels. Citing your sources, and giving the original author credit, is the ethical thing to do. Is there some reason you're not linking to the original article anymore?
    Aside from the whole ethics thing, I also like being able to check out the original posting, and see if there have been any new updates since the video posted. This video obviously just came out, but a few years down the road, someone could be going through your back catalogue, and want to find out if there's any new information on a story.

    • @SecretVoices25
      @SecretVoices25  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Sorry for the inconvenience. Yes there is a reason it turns out if you don't know my channel got demonetised because of the links. And that's why other channels also don't mention the sources. Please try to understand

    • @Spectacular769
      @Spectacular769 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@SecretVoices25 What the heck? Seriously? Letting Creators properly cite their sources with hyperlinks results in them being demonitized? Shouldn't it be the opposite? That's ridiculous.
      In that case, you are officially forgiven for not posting links (not that one single subscriber makes all that much of a difference.)

    • @putent9623
      @putent9623 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@Spectacular769youtube doesn't like links that take you outside the website. Some times they delete them or they don't even work, or in this case, they do some shaddy things like shadow banning channels or outright demonetization them.

    • @SecretVoices25
      @SecretVoices25  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @joshkrahn2247 thanks for understanding and no you make a difference in my life. Thanks for being here and supporting 🙏🙏🙏

  • @user-mp8qg5tb5e
    @user-mp8qg5tb5e 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Screw people like this who simply throw friends under the bus with no evidence. Mark is kinda a doormat. He gave his ex best friend who helped ruin his life an invitation to his wedding. What a sad person

    • @HidanoKyoku
      @HidanoKyoku 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      She didn't actually ruin his life, she just cut him off. Which is still bad, but eh.

    • @vaxel0068
      @vaxel0068 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@HidanoKyoku Mark had a proverbial sword hanging over his head for years, one word from her was all it would have taken regardless of how long ago it was.

    • @pyroflamekid7412
      @pyroflamekid7412 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Pls tell me how is she the villain in this. She was literally being manipulated by her ex. What happened to mark is tragic, but it didnt get public and was literally like an open secret btw the 3 of them so no he didnt get his life ruin. And pls tell me what evidence couldve been given for her to believe. It literally wouldve been a he-she say situation. She ended believing her boyfriend bc he ended up getting to her first.

    • @user-mp8qg5tb5e
      @user-mp8qg5tb5e 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      She could have given him the benefit of the doubt but I think we need to take into account that she was just assaulted it doesn’t excuse it but I think we need to acknowledge it

    • @AA-ed6ek
      @AA-ed6ek 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @pyroflamekid7412 So because it wasn't public, it's okay? Only a fool believes in an accusation with no evidence. Considering where you're from, it makes sense that you would defend this clown. Your types enjoy witch hunts after all.

  • @Buldogg345
    @Buldogg345 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Hmmm, at first I felt Mark was giving some simp-y or doormat-y vibes, but after the updates, it seems he's just a compassionate person. OP at least gave him closure. He has his life and his act together and is civil to OP. The fact that he tried to include her wasn't a simp-y act, I believe it comes from consideration and trying to avoid victim-blaming while trying to rekindle an old friendship. Whatever happened then or happens in the future, they are connected through this and none of them will forget it. Sometimes learning a hard truth about a traumatic event hits as hard as the event itself. I understand if people call Mark a simp or a doormat, but he at least doesn't seem one to me. It didn't seem like he was trying to be with OP or anything, he's just caring for a good friend who he knows is dealing with overwhelming information. Not only OP suffered here, he probably had to deal with his own issues. The images of the assault, the fact the victim was a good friend, the assault he suffered at Paul's hands. Good on Mark for living his life and good on OP for owning to her mistake and apologizing to Mark.

    • @dalemorgan8263
      @dalemorgan8263 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      As someone who has a friendship with a girl that parallels OP's accounts on some levels, the key difference is whether one expects anything in return.

    • @Buldogg345
      @Buldogg345 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @dalemorgan8263 Totally agree. This is the issue with most male/female friendships. If both of them are platonic to each other, then go ahead. If not, then the friendship will either evolve or implode. In this case, if Mark has high morals as OP paints him, then he might be a kind of friend everyone can be proud of having. Otherwise, it would be really sad. Like the falling of a hero or something.

    • @dalemorgan8263
      @dalemorgan8263 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@Buldogg345 Speaking from personal experience, the feelings don't have to be purely platonic as long as one values the friendship more and, as I mentioned, doesn't actually expect anything.

    • @Buldogg345
      @Buldogg345 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@dalemorgan8263 Wise words :)

    • @dalemorgan8263
      @dalemorgan8263 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Buldogg345 Here's some more. Everything is a trade-off, you just have to decide for yourself which trade is worth it. Whether it's time, effort, or even money, only you can really make that call. Doesn't hurt to get others' input to make an informed decision, but it's ultimately up to you.

  • @nicknitro86
    @nicknitro86 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No she should leave him alone.

  • @mohammaddaniyal823
    @mohammaddaniyal823 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It does seem like she has feelings for mark.........

  • @putent9623
    @putent9623 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This vid blew up. Also very eye catching title for the video.

  • @_junedays_1614
    @_junedays_1614 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +166

    She isn’t a villain in marks story she just another victim of Paul.

    • @ar23431
      @ar23431 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      I correct you, she is the victim in Paul's story, she is the perpetrator in Mark's story.

    • @kabob21
      @kabob21 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@ar23431 So Mark filed a report against her? Oh wait no he filed an assault report on Paul because in his own words that’s who he’s blaming

    • @ar23431
      @ar23431 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kabob21 Exactly, I'll tell you something, honey, society sucks, when a man accuses other man of that nobody cares, it hurts whoever hurts, it's a reality.
      If it is a woman, believe me, even if there is proof of innocence, the man will live with the stigma all his life.
      And there are even places that have a list of "possible" rap*sts.I mean, even with your proven innocence there will be places where they will always doubt you.

    • @ShiNijuuAKL
      @ShiNijuuAKL 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@kabob21 And his first report when nowhere because she would've testified against him. She is one of the villain in his story

    • @brighterphantom4530
      @brighterphantom4530 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Correction, she is the pawn in Marks story, while Paul is the villain. If someone cuts the breaks in your car, you'll likely always have negative emotions about that car, and will not want to buy it or a exact model ever again.

  • @MajorDrinkins
    @MajorDrinkins 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Men shouldn't be friends with chicks. Mark could have had his life ended in that situation.

  • @ingasparrow
    @ingasparrow 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Its always funny how accusers of certain crimes tend to be treated far worse than the men who admit they did that certain crime.

    • @10101polo1
      @10101polo1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Literally not a thing. You actually think false accusers are put on a sex offenders list?

    • @ingasparrow
      @ingasparrow 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @10101polo1 It's very much a thing that happens all the time. Roman Polanski is one a many examples.
      Second, your stupid question is not making any sort of point.

    • @10101polo1
      @10101polo1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ingasparrow man your dumb. Okay, I will spell it out. You say that accusers are treated worse than those who admit it. But which of them is added to the sex offenders list? Boom, at least one way they are treated worse.

  • @backerthehacker3700
    @backerthehacker3700 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She forgot the cardinal rule: bros before hos

  • @TheCholoGeek
    @TheCholoGeek 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I can’t focus on the story due to the shit parkour in the background

  • @Wumbology378
    @Wumbology378 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    OP is not the villian, and Mark should get closure on the situation as hearing that she knows the truth would help him a lot. Of course Mark should stay clear of her imo. Even if it was reasonable for her to react the way she did, he shouldnt allow someone who would believe he would SA someone in his life.
    Mark should move on with his life and avoid the drama.

    • @ultraboy2669
      @ultraboy2669 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      But OP was gaslighted by Paul. Was she supposed to believe that Paul would try an rope her and frame someone else for doing it They’re both victims. I think it’s cool that Mark is willing to talk to her

    • @Wumbology378
      @Wumbology378 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​@@ultraboy2669as far as I am concerned all of that doesn't matter. Had those allegations been boosted Mark likely wouldn't be in the position he was in at the end of the story still having his job and having a wife. Allegations of SA and anything of you being predatory and ruin a man's life so even if OP is not in the wrong that was too close for comfort. If he chooses to try to keep her around that is on him, but he should focus on his family and keep things with her short.

    • @ultraboy2669
      @ultraboy2669 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Wumbology378 well, all of that doesn’t matter because what happened is the OP didn’t spread Paul’s lies like you ruined his life. He was fine nothing awful happened to him stop focusing on that focus on what actually happened Mark is happy and that’s why it’s OK if you want to talk to her.

    • @AA-ed6ek
      @AA-ed6ek 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ultraboy2669 No she isn't.

    • @ultraboy2669
      @ultraboy2669 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AA-ed6ek no she isn’t what

  • @some_random_detective
    @some_random_detective 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Im here before the video even uploaded
    How?

    • @SecretVoices25
      @SecretVoices25  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ❤️❤️

    • @Pekuboo
      @Pekuboo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      bro bent reality💀💀💀

  • @dravenocklost4253
    @dravenocklost4253 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey, stranger, dont do the races that make your guy poisoned its uncomfortable to watch the video.

  • @Rorschachqp
    @Rorschachqp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I got drunk a couple times in my long life. No SAs were given.

  • @Rorschachqp
    @Rorschachqp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Surprise!”

  • @MrAntiKnowledge
    @MrAntiKnowledge 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So multiple people pulled Paul of her, but Mark still got the blame?
    Were they all in on that psycho act?

    • @flabbergast_se
      @flabbergast_se 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where did it say multiple people? it was one Mark, Paul and OP there. The party was over

    • @MrAntiKnowledge
      @MrAntiKnowledge 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@flabbergast_se
      Ah my bad, just rewatched that part, it was in fact only Mark and Paul.
      No accomplices. Tiny shred of hope in humanity restored.

  • @pyromaniacpenguin
    @pyromaniacpenguin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    why is there a timer, lizard brain wants content naooooooooo

  • @kingp791
    @kingp791 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This is why
    A) men and women can't be just friends.
    B) it doesn't pay to be the nice guy.

    • @skittlemilks1614
      @skittlemilks1614 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very twisted views you have. Hope you get help

  • @MA-ti5eo
    @MA-ti5eo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dammit I wanted OP and Mark to end up together

    • @bostinroid4434
      @bostinroid4434 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Naive, gullible people make unreliable partners.

  • @Stuart267
    @Stuart267 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    *Lost all respect for Mark for forgiving her to be honest.*

    • @pyroflamekid7412
      @pyroflamekid7412 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Why? They were both victims of Paul's manipulation. It was a sad misunderstanding.

    • @Stuart267
      @Stuart267 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@pyroflamekid7412 Mark could have called the police himself to clear his name, but she was all too quick to believe her obviously jealous boy friend who may as well have had a red flag hanging out of his ass, but she decides to ruin a friendship that "meant a lot to her"

    • @KDawg92801
      @KDawg92801 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠@@Stuart267why, so Paul could convince OP to lie and say Mark was the one who was the perpetrator.

    • @benaffblack
      @benaffblack 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What a sad heart and mindset you have.

    • @kelseygraham875
      @kelseygraham875 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Stuart267 Mark did go to the police. They told him that he could be arrested for it.

  • @skeetskeet7041
    @skeetskeet7041 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    “While I understand what happened to you is bad, what happened to him is even worse”
    *Lol, lmao even. That’s some prime reddit right there*

    • @saifullahhabid1133
      @saifullahhabid1133 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I think that comment was made under the assumption that mark was publicly framed for the SA

    • @rafaelcastor2089
      @rafaelcastor2089 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@saifullahhabid1133 That's the same impression i have.

    • @ultraboy2669
      @ultraboy2669 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Watch the whole video please

    • @KasaiBuru
      @KasaiBuru 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ultraboy2669having actually watched the video, they're right that commenter made ransom assumptions and accusations based on absolutely nothing when Mark was perfectly fine other than the assault *PAUL* did to him, OP did nothing wrong and this is just classic redditor mindset

    • @shadowscall7758
      @shadowscall7758 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It would have been if Mark had been publicly affected by it.

  • @zish3655
    @zish3655 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    She isn't the villain but definitely not a saint for playing Mark like that. Fuck "guy-bestfriends" - I'm sure Mark liked her but she enjoyed the attention instead.

  • @kabob21
    @kabob21 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I can’t believe the people blaming OOP. Stop projecting your own BS bias and put yourself in her shoes. PAUL bears 100% of the blame. He traumatized her, manipulated her and tried to ruin a good man. Those of you blaming one of the victims are lucky something majorly horrible has never happened to you

    • @nickchames5749
      @nickchames5749 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Well her buddy spent years knowing that his friend jumped straight to believing he would rape her. You can feel however you want about these things but the truth is the everyone’s a victim equally thing is a bit unfair.

    • @kabob21
      @kabob21 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      They both are, truly. What evidence was there to the contrary? There was none. She couldn’t make an informed decision because Paul manipulated it that way

    • @ar23431
      @ar23431 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@kabob21So she was a tarada,pendeja idiota
      You have eyes, a brain and hands, you can do anything if you put your mind to it, believing someone blindly without evidence only shows how stupid one can be.

    • @DenRioku
      @DenRioku 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      lol

    • @ShiNijuuAKL
      @ShiNijuuAKL 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@kabob21 She didn't even try to hear the other side

  • @ianmoritzplatapino3684
    @ianmoritzplatapino3684 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    This is how a person gets a must needed wake up call from living in a fantasy to the reality. He saved her and how she thanked him by believing the bf and slandering his name and reputation. That's something no man will recover from fully. Unless she can go back in time, theres nothing she can do or say to fix this. But its a shame mark has zero self respect and wants to keep contact with that woman that falsely accused him. He is risking being falsely accused again. Classic spineless simp charming white knight doormat

    • @kabob21
      @kabob21 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Oh screw off, sincerely. How was she to know when she was lied to, deceived and manipulated by a monster? She’s already bearing crushing guilt when it’s Paul here that’s to blame. She has a responsibility to tell Mark and apologize if she wishes but beyond that, it’s all on Paul to make amends (if that’s even possible)

    • @LordDiscord
      @LordDiscord 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      ​@kabob21 Maybe not just blindly believing everything she's told without evidence. I hate that excuse, you have no reason to just believe something unless irrefutable evidence is presented.

    • @ar23431
      @ar23431 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@kabob21Very simple, you take the legal route and the evidence will rule it apart from that.
      Woman ☕,They will never understand what it means to be accused of r*pe if you are a men

    • @kabob21
      @kabob21 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@LordDiscord And what evidence did she have at the time to not believe her ex? She didn’t know he was a monster at the time. She gave her reasoning and it was reasonable. Go read this Ian guy’s response again and tell me that it isn’t dripping with ridiculousness and more than a little misogyny. Doesn’t even seem like he watched the entire video what with Mark being engaged to be married and hardly “a simp”

    • @ar23431
      @ar23431 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@kabob21still
      Doesn't excuse it, she could have investigated, she could have asked, she could have talked.
      Before ruining the life of an innocent person

  • @Greebo-ne1sc
    @Greebo-ne1sc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m sorry average Redditer blaming the person who was brutally raped whilst drunk, as the villain because they believed what can be argued was a more logical viewpoint considering what happened

    • @10101polo1
      @10101polo1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      "Believed a more logical view point"? How about only listened to one view point? Intentional ignorance is not an excuse for poor judgement.

    • @Greebo-ne1sc
      @Greebo-ne1sc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@10101polo1 I’m sorry but someone whose extremely traumatised and needs emotional support is obviously going to turn to a partner, also it would make less sense for her partner to rape her when they could probably have sex quite a few times. “Intentional ignorance” big words with little meaning, she’s clearly not intentionally ignoring something she’s as I’ve said emotionally confused and traumatised. Just because she doesn’t see a few small things which she does later after being directly told everything that happened

    • @10101polo1
      @10101polo1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Greebo-ne1sc there's a difference between not seeing small things and ignoring the small things. But since you can't tell the difference, it's obvious why you think intentional ignorance has little meaning.

    • @Greebo-ne1sc
      @Greebo-ne1sc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@10101polo1 “intentional” suggests she just wanted to believe her boyfriend, not taking note of the fact her boyfriend was sometimes away is not intentional ignorance it just not really noticing something

    • @10101polo1
      @10101polo1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Greebo-ne1sc she wasn't intentionally ignorant? What, did she block Mark on accident?

  • @sandyfyffe-tu6so
    @sandyfyffe-tu6so 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    God DAYUM a LOT of guys really, *really* want this poor woman to be at fault... Let me explain to you all how your "logic" falls apart:
    A common way to victim blame is "she shouldn't have just believed Paul/she should have talked to Mark." Okay, let me ask you this, if he *had* been the perp, do you think he'd have confessed?? NO, he'd have said he didn't do it, JUST like he would have if she asked him what really happened. Furthermore, even if he gave an accurate string of events, which one sounds more likely: "I tied you up, tried to SA you, and Paul saved you." Or "Paul tied you up in order to frame me, attempted to SA you despite the fact yall are dating, beat me up when I tried to save you, then untied you, ALL to make himself look like the good guy!"... The first one sounds a HELL of a lot more likely, especially given that most SA is committed by someone CLOSE TO THE VICTIM.
    Some of yall are saying she slandered him, this is FALSE as the video clearly states she 1) didnt file a police report. 2) didnt call his place of employment. 3) didnt tell friends/family. And 4) he even *said* no one had said anything to him about it. His life wasn't ruined, hell he even invited her to his WEDDING!

    • @Poshriel
      @Poshriel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The problem people have here is that they are operating with the knowledge of the truth already in hand. They are like, " Why didn't you just believe Mark? He's clearly the good guy, the other guy had all these red flags." Well duh, it's easy to say that when you're sitting here reading what's already happened, with information that is already revealed.
      It's a lot different than how it was experienced first hand.

    • @10101polo1
      @10101polo1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      She literally told at least 3 of her friends. So there's one gaping hole in your argument already.

    • @kelseygraham875
      @kelseygraham875 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      She did spread the story around to her friends, and the only reason she didn't file a police report was because the REAL perpetrator told her not to. Do you understand what a "red flag" is?

  • @fabianafagundezmuniz8119
    @fabianafagundezmuniz8119 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Why the fuck is someone telling an almost SA victim that they are a villain and berating them in this video?

    • @sandyfyffe-tu6so
      @sandyfyffe-tu6so 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Because men gonna men...

    • @nasdaq517
      @nasdaq517 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Men ☕️

    • @AA-ed6ek
      @AA-ed6ek 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Because she did something wrong? Americans/Westerners/ gonna American, huh? You people just prove every single negative stereotype you have.

    • @10101polo1
      @10101polo1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sandyfyffe-tu6so cause women gotta amber heard

    • @ShiNijuuAKL
      @ShiNijuuAKL 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      because you can be both

  • @tatugus523
    @tatugus523 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You guys are so weak. Why is it that Everytime something happens you guys immediately think about getting a therapist. Just deal with it on your own😂😂

    • @DeathsHood
      @DeathsHood 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ooh, so tough.

    • @tatugus523
      @tatugus523 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DeathsHood tough enough to face my own problems.

    • @DeathsHood
      @DeathsHood 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@tatugus523 Uh-huh.
      I definitely believe you, sport.
      Super tough.

  • @kevinroberts8441
    @kevinroberts8441 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    why you don't have female friends and you never help them