Gale Banks' Diesel combustion system is very innovative! Finer fuel atomization, nitrous oxide injection behind the turbocharged flow, tailored compression, high revving; not just different, but better. He's exploring the potential of Diesel power, and getting impressive results. Kudos!
awesome looking truck. What happened to the 70s, 80s and early 90s design makes me sad.. I have a 93 Ford Explorer and when I saw the new one recently I didnt know if its Ford, Rover, Hyundai or one of the other generic looking manufacturers..
Wow, each time I see these videos I am more impressed with Jay’s knowledge of cars and engines. Gale Banks is a true innovator on turbo charging and diesel power. Excited to get some Banks products to improve my vehicle and also my wife’s ranch truck which is the LMM Duramax powered GMC.
Gale is a living legend.started in a small garage and now has a community of buildings.many wins and records later he's still developing.man has made some fast boats,cars and trucks.interesting guy.
I love Gale! When he comes down to visit it’s always a treat. He did the work on my Cummins 12V. I picked up 490HP and 500 torques in a few days with him and my debit card.
Wow! Two of my favorite car guys in the world appearing together in one video. Banks has been a hero of mine for more than 30 years. I have seen clips of his diesel drag cars, and suspected he was using nitrous to enhance combustion before the turbos spool up. It is interesting how much intercooling effect he's getting from spraying nitrous in right after the compressor. That is what I call elegance in engineering; using one system to solve more than one problem, in this case turbo lag, black acceleration smoke, and intercooling.
Banks was the inventor behind the original S-10 Syclone (the original fastest production pickup on the planet) and the GMC S-15 Typhoon (based on the GMC S-15 "baby Blazer" body) - which was actually FASTER than the Syclone - both were available as RPOs from Chevy and GMC dealers. Banks has a network of dealers that sell these packages for production vehicles (this one is available at three places near me) - you can clone this beastie.
I think that's about the smokiest burnout we're ever going to see from Jay. This technology has been around for a while now. I remember seeing this truck on the powerblock like five years ago.
Diesels at this time are getting better and better.No more those slow trucks,semis can go to higher speeds with more loads.transmissions are better.We have to remember old cars with torque converter and stick shift,you had to depress clutch at red lights. I was able to see Chevys and fords pickups climbing the 5fwy to Las Vegas faster than gasoline trucks.V6-53 GM can get almost 4,000 rpm,I used to repair boat engines long time ago. Great video and I loved it!
In the US, the Passat gets 34 combined mpg, the Accord 27, this results in an estimated annual fuel cost of $1,800 for the Passat vs $2,000 for the Accord. So the Passat has the advantage there. The Passat TDI is still around $5,000 more expensive than the Accord to start with, is down 45 hp and is still only available as a ULEV.
When you're running nitrous, good fuel economy is easy to understand: The turbo needs to produce less boost, hence less backpressure on the exhaust system. The same engine producing the same amount of power by producing loads of boost alone wouldn't have the same fuel economy, I don't think. Other than that: Diesel FTW! Keep up the good work, Gale!
I am from Europe. And I'm impressed how your dieseltechnology has caught up. Now you are only 10 years behind Europe. Alu heads on diesel a new thing. LOL
The efficiency loss is due to NOx emission reduction accomplished by recirculating a significant part of the hot exhaust gas back into the combustion chamber. This reduces efficiency by ~3%, but diesels are still ~20% more efficient than gasoline engines (in terms of conversion of fuel into power, including difference in caloric density of gas and diesel fuel), 40% in MPG terms. New engines using "selective catalytic reduction" have even less efficiency loss than exhaust gas recirculating alone.
thats not the turbo pressure, thats the injector pressure, and the primary reason this car is so efficient, the developing thing in diesel tech is increasing injector pressure to increase power and efficiency, although, it is incredibly high even for injector pressures
Love s10s. Always have owned at leat one. Would love to see a video on the cyclone or typhoon. I know its not your typical Jay Leno ride but theyre rare and fast. I believe that checks 2 of Jays biggest boxes
I own a 2001 Ram diesel 3500 4WD with a 6-sp manual. Mechanically the truck is basic, reliable and easy to service while having very few emissions devices to effect efficiency and performance. I get 25 mpg while using veggie oil that costs me $1.00/gallon to make. Burning veggie oil, as opposed to fossil fuels, actually improves the truck's mileage by 2-4 MPG. Meanwhile, you could literally suck off of the tailpipe. This is why diesel is a bridge technology.
My dad used to have a little Fiesta van (no weight of seats, doors or glass in the back) with an 1800 diesel, that thing WENT... at urban and winding countryside lane speeds, anyway XD. And still got 600-odd miles between fill-ups. That generation of Fiesta (think it was from 1998/9) had great handling too. I ought to find another one, it'll probably cost me almost £150 XD
Also Audi is racing for some years with diesel powered cars in Le Mans. My father owned an Audi A4 3.0tdi with 284hp and quattro, so there it could bring down all his power. Diesel is a very old but very good technology. Newest thing is the new BMW M 550d with 3 Turbos, I would love to drive it.
Each web site i looked at had something a bit different to say on the matter. Diesels are more efficient because diesel fuel is more energy dense than gasoline. with the new ultra low sulphur fuels available in the USA I still believe that diesel is a good alternative to gas. It mainly boils down to personal choice. When I was a kid, big rigs would leave plumes of black smoke as they went down the road. That is no longer the case. My point is that diesels can be clean without over regulation.
The reason I didn't buy a diesel recently is because they come with a price premium. Wanted to get a Jetta TDI, but when I looked I could only get it in the top of the line trim. It was 12,000 over the base model, which is 15,000. So almost double the price from the diesel. Would have been pretty nice though.
OK, after watching the vid again, I get the importance of having a torque converter in front of the manual transmission. It allows them to load the engine on the line more than they could with a conventional clutch, thereby bringing up the turbo boost more effectively.
If you really want to get technical, the hemi engine was invented in 1901 by the Truscott Launch & Engine Company of St. Joseph, Missouri. In 1903 The Chelsea Manufacturing Company built the first automobile hemi engine. Peugeot didn’t start working with hemi engines until about a decade later, after manufactures like Pipe & Fiat already had years of experience working with hemi engines
The reason the engines were moved to the back was for safety due to engines blowing up in front of drivers before the tech we see today to keep engines together. The funny cars are a different class and have to be "shaped" like a car, that's why the rails are so long now, to keep from wheelie standing, and the long front end helps weight transfer to the rear, and they're not limited as to design like the other classes.
we can get the same out of a reasonably well maintained peugeot diesel. and them cummins engines are great. so easy to work on, no wonder landini and massy has always used them
cool burnout,diesels are great,im from europe and yes,diesels are very popular here,mainly because they are much more fuel eficiant,many modern small diesel engines are more eficiant,than hybrid cars
Right now diesels are regulated so that they are AS clean as most gas engines (some gas engines are still cleaner), so I wouldn't call that over-regulation. I do agree that it's down to personal choice.
I brought it up because anyone in the US can buy an efficient non-hybrid gasoline vehicle that has lower CO2 emissions than any comparable diesel, produces lower amounts of harmful emissions, costs less and uses less expensive fuel without relying on subsidies. If you want a diesel in Europe you are dependent on subsidies to bring the cost of diesel down to a reasonable price.
I love what Gale is doing with diesel. It's a far better fuel then gas, and if burned properly just as clean. We just never put in the tech or research.
Ok I got the answer to my question by re-watching the video, it seems that it is the pressure of the injection system and the atomisation of the diesel that prevents smoke.
True, but the cars we have are 4 or 6 cylinder and relatively small displacement. This is a much bigger displacement V8 at 6.6litres. Thats why it cant rev as much as smaller displacement diesels.
The emissions controls require the engine to work harder to pump out the exhaust gasses. Power isn't an issue because boost from the turbo can simply be used to make up for power loss. Efficiency (how much power is produced from a given amount of fuel) does suffer because of the extra work the engine has to do. The only thing that makes a diesel attractive over a gasoline engine is that they are typically more efficient. Without that advantage gas is superior in just about every way possible.
The reason why diesel engines are so popular over in europe (especially in germany where I live) is the tax. Diesel fuel is about 15% cheaper than regular 98 octane fuel. And the diesel engine is more efficient as well. On the other side, diesel cars are more expensive to buy, the car tax per year is higher (2x - 3x times) the service costs are higher (turbocharger, particle filter, ..). At the moment the EU thinks about cutting the diesel tax advantage, this could change the situation.
"a gallon gas tank, you can make about half a dozen runs on that thing" a quarter mile run 4 runs is a mile plus 2 is a 1 1/2 miles. That truck gets 1.5 miles to a gallon! Yes very fuel efficient indeed!
That's right I live in England, I drive a 2013 BMW X3 with 2.0 litre diesel, 4X4 I get almost 50 mpg. Car built in South Carolina and not sold in the USA. Why would anyone own a Hybrid when you could have this beautiful Cross Over
lol the tramsbrake does not lock the torque converter😂it also is impossible to cool torque converter fluid with an icebox because an unsealed torque converter wouldnt work. the trans brake put the trans in reverse and forward both
no matter how much power you can get from a clean running diesel with no smoke you can get more power out of it if you add more fuel wich in turn makes the clouds of smoke most diesel racers go for maximum power which means lots of fuel this truck is capable of way more power if they were to add more fuel
Diesel is not as popular in the USA for one reason, taxes put on diesel by the government to keep the cost high. This is due to lobbing by big oil to keep it high. The facts are diesel is more efficient, produces more torque, and produces less CO2. Sure there is more CO2 per gallon but you get more miles per gallon with diesel. Diesel also requires less processing and can easily be produced from non crude oil sources such as renewable bio sources. Great review of the truck Jay.
"I dream of more" spoken like a true innovator.
Gale Banks' Diesel combustion system is very innovative! Finer fuel atomization, nitrous oxide injection behind the turbocharged flow, tailored compression, high revving; not just different, but better. He's exploring the potential of Diesel power, and getting impressive results. Kudos!
SIMKINETICS ... Truly Brilliant engineering, design and machine.
I had a banks turbo installed on my 1986 Ford f250. I worked perfectly for 430k miles. increased mileage and power. my favorite truck ever.
awesome looking truck. What happened to the 70s, 80s and early 90s design makes me sad.. I have a 93 Ford Explorer and when I saw the new one recently I didnt know if its Ford, Rover, Hyundai or one of the other generic looking manufacturers..
Wow, each time I see these videos I am more impressed with Jay’s knowledge of cars and engines. Gale Banks is a true innovator on turbo charging and diesel power. Excited to get some Banks products to improve my vehicle and also my wife’s ranch truck which is the LMM Duramax powered GMC.
Gale is a living legend.started in a small garage and now has a community of buildings.many wins and records later he's still developing.man has made some fast boats,cars and trucks.interesting guy.
I love Gale!
When he comes down to visit it’s always a treat. He did the work on my Cummins 12V.
I picked up 490HP and 500 torques in a few days with him and my debit card.
Wow! Two of my favorite car guys in the world appearing together in one video. Banks has been a hero of mine for more than 30 years. I have seen clips of his diesel drag cars, and suspected he was using nitrous to enhance combustion before the turbos spool up. It is interesting how much intercooling effect he's getting from spraying nitrous in right after the compressor. That is what I call elegance in engineering; using one system to solve more than one problem, in this case turbo lag, black acceleration smoke, and intercooling.
Best burnout to date!
Hell Yessssss
and still the best 7 years later
Probably the best burnout I've seen so far at your Garage!
Banks was the inventor behind the original S-10 Syclone (the original fastest production pickup on the planet) and the GMC S-15 Typhoon (based on the GMC S-15 "baby Blazer" body) - which was actually FASTER than the Syclone - both were available as RPOs from Chevy and GMC dealers. Banks has a network of dealers that sell these packages for production vehicles (this one is available at three places near me) - you can clone this beastie.
this is the first guest i have seen who know A LOT about what they do, he was even teaching Jay.
Now that's a burnout! Banks power are awesome! Thanks jay.
Let gale talk. Get him back for something else diesel.. Great interview Jay. thanks
Right after that burnout they all ran inside, hid the truck and closed the gates.... shortly after the cops cruised by muttering"frikkin Jay"!!
Love it... 🤣
I like how Jay talks a lot about the past, it's really informative
I think that's about the smokiest burnout we're ever going to see from Jay.
This technology has been around for a while now. I remember seeing this truck on the powerblock like five years ago.
Funny thing is, I've got a red S10 without an engine and a GMC with a Duramax. Have to check out the website. Thanks Jay!
I am blown away by the technology behind this super truck.
Good episode. Nice how he explained the truck in laymen's terms.
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I had no idea they were friends! I know I’m so late I just got into this Lenos garage rabbit hole
Gale Banks is a Legend ...love his custom turbos..!
Diesels at this time are getting better and better.No more those slow trucks,semis can go to higher speeds with more loads.transmissions are better.We have to remember old cars with torque converter and stick shift,you had to depress clutch at red lights. I was able to see Chevys and fords pickups climbing the 5fwy to Las Vegas faster than gasoline trucks.V6-53 GM can get almost 4,000 rpm,I used to repair boat engines long time ago. Great video and I loved it!
i really like this guy talking to jay..Top bloke
In the US, the Passat gets 34 combined mpg, the Accord 27, this results in an estimated annual fuel cost of $1,800 for the Passat vs $2,000 for the Accord. So the Passat has the advantage there. The Passat TDI is still around $5,000 more expensive than the Accord to start with, is down 45 hp and is still only available as a ULEV.
Best burnout in the history of Jay Leno's Garage.
When you're running nitrous, good fuel economy is easy to understand: The turbo needs to produce less boost, hence less backpressure on the exhaust system. The same engine producing the same amount of power by producing loads of boost alone wouldn't have the same fuel economy, I don't think. Other than that: Diesel FTW! Keep up the good work, Gale!
Jay, that was one of the better burnouts done on your channel! Thumb up.
7 years later, this is still cool as hell
Brazilian here, great channel!
Gale Banks is so impressive to me - he's as bright and passionate as anyone in the car industry. Seems like a great guy.
One of few guests where jay let him get a full sentence in
Great video Jay. Very informational and entertaining. So glad I found your channel.
I am from Europe. And I'm impressed how your dieseltechnology has caught up. Now you are only 10 years behind Europe. Alu heads on diesel a new thing. LOL
Best burnout at the garage to date!
Belgium, home to the capital of Europe.
My my, are motorist happy to be part of such a great community. :p
Love the tech talk!
Best burnout yet Jay, The MackDaaddy of burnouts!
It's my bet that Mr. Banks could get 100+ MPG out of a modest VW diesel in a passenger car. This guy is a genius and the real deal, folks.
Best burnout yet!
i'm impressed 4,800 rpm shift point , 5,000 + red line in a diesel .... that is crazy cool ....
Best burnout that street has seen yet
The efficiency loss is due to NOx emission reduction accomplished by recirculating a significant part of the hot exhaust gas back into the combustion chamber. This reduces efficiency by ~3%, but diesels are still ~20% more efficient than gasoline engines (in terms of conversion of fuel into power, including difference in caloric density of gas and diesel fuel), 40% in MPG terms. New engines using "selective catalytic reduction" have even less efficiency loss than exhaust gas recirculating alone.
Good stuff, I've had a Banks kit on my Dodge Ram for over 100K miles with out a single problem or complaint.
Great Educational videos..
Thanks Jay...
absolutely, this motor has all the latest tech, as they said.
How times have changed in 10 years with diesel vehicle are about to not be manufactured anymore and wow the diesel has become crazy experience.
thats not the turbo pressure, thats the injector pressure, and the primary reason this car is so efficient, the developing thing in diesel tech is increasing injector pressure to increase power and efficiency, although, it is incredibly high even for injector pressures
I should add that the cost of diesel fuel increased considerably when ULSD (ultra low sulfur diesel) became a requirement for newer diesels.
That was an impressive burnout! Sweet diesel tech in this video
direct injection is the key,ultra high pressure, atomization is perfect,no more wasted raw fuel.
Love s10s. Always have owned at leat one. Would love to see a video on the cyclone or typhoon. I know its not your typical Jay Leno ride but theyre rare and fast. I believe that checks 2 of Jays biggest boxes
I said: Measuring different vehicles under the same operating conditions provides a solid means of comparison.
"Let's do a burnout" is strangely satisfying to watch
Neighbors just love Jay.
Banks and Diesel FTW! Nice video Jay!
Cool Thx Jay Leno's Garage. Haven't seen this thing in a while.
Great vid Jay! I love the variety we get here on your channel! Keep up the good work.
I own a 2001 Ram diesel 3500 4WD with a 6-sp manual. Mechanically the truck is basic, reliable and easy to service while having very few emissions devices to effect efficiency and performance. I get 25 mpg while using veggie oil that costs me $1.00/gallon to make. Burning veggie oil, as opposed to fossil fuels, actually improves the truck's mileage by 2-4 MPG. Meanwhile, you could literally suck off of the tailpipe. This is why diesel is a bridge technology.
Beautiful, wicked truck!
My dad used to have a little Fiesta van (no weight of seats, doors or glass in the back) with an 1800 diesel, that thing WENT... at urban and winding countryside lane speeds, anyway XD. And still got 600-odd miles between fill-ups. That generation of Fiesta (think it was from 1998/9) had great handling too. I ought to find another one, it'll probably cost me almost £150 XD
That is amazing technology Jay!
I really would like to see more bio diesel used in the states. Change doesn't come easy for some people though.
Also Audi is racing for some years with diesel powered cars in Le Mans. My father owned an Audi A4 3.0tdi with 284hp and quattro, so there it could bring down all his power. Diesel is a very old but very good technology. Newest thing is the new BMW M 550d with 3 Turbos, I would love to drive it.
Each web site i looked at had something a bit different to say on the matter. Diesels are more efficient because diesel fuel is more energy dense than gasoline. with the new ultra low sulphur fuels available in the USA I still believe that diesel is a good alternative to gas. It mainly boils down to personal choice. When I was a kid, big rigs would leave plumes of black smoke as they went down the road. That is no longer the case.
My point is that diesels can be clean without over regulation.
gale banks is a true legend
The reason I didn't buy a diesel recently is because they come with a price premium. Wanted to get a Jetta TDI, but when I looked I could only get it in the top of the line trim. It was 12,000 over the base model, which is 15,000. So almost double the price from the diesel. Would have been pretty nice though.
Goddamn Jay, help the poor man! Those jeans are devouring him!
LoydMongo he went to the store and told them he needed a 34/70 relaxed fit
I recommend the book "Turbo : Real World High-Performance Turbocharger Systems" for all high power Turbo/Diesel enthusiasts.
Love this truck! Good job Gale!
Best burnout here up to now
Honda Civic Coupe - Base price: $17,965, PZEV emissions class, EPA estimated annual fuel cost: $1,650, CO2 emissions per mile: 278 grams.
VW Golf TDI - Base price: $24,235, ULEV emissions class, EPA estimated annual fuel cost: $1,750, CO2 emissions per mile: 299 grams.
OK, after watching the vid again, I get the importance of having a torque converter in front of the manual transmission. It allows them to load the engine on the line more than they could with a conventional clutch, thereby bringing up the turbo boost more effectively.
If you really want to get technical, the hemi engine was invented in 1901 by the Truscott Launch & Engine Company of St. Joseph, Missouri. In 1903 The Chelsea Manufacturing Company built the first automobile hemi engine. Peugeot didn’t start working with hemi engines until about a decade later, after manufactures like Pipe & Fiat already had years of experience working with hemi engines
HEY!!! that burnout made the street smoky
The reason the engines were moved to the back was for safety due to engines blowing up in front of drivers before the tech we see today to keep engines together. The funny cars are a different class and have to be "shaped" like a car, that's why the rails are so long now, to keep from wheelie standing, and the long front end helps weight transfer to the rear, and they're not limited as to design like the other classes.
we can get the same out of a reasonably well maintained peugeot diesel. and them cummins engines are great. so easy to work on, no wonder landini and massy has always used them
cool burnout,diesels are great,im from europe and yes,diesels are very popular here,mainly because they are much more fuel eficiant,many modern small diesel engines are more eficiant,than hybrid cars
Right now diesels are regulated so that they are AS clean as most gas engines (some gas engines are still cleaner), so I wouldn't call that over-regulation.
I do agree that it's down to personal choice.
The earth slows down when that S10 digs in
I brought it up because anyone in the US can buy an efficient non-hybrid gasoline vehicle that has lower CO2 emissions than any comparable diesel, produces lower amounts of harmful emissions, costs less and uses less expensive fuel without relying on subsidies. If you want a diesel in Europe you are dependent on subsidies to bring the cost of diesel down to a reasonable price.
I love what Gale is doing with diesel. It's a far better fuel then gas, and if burned properly just as clean. We just never put in the tech or research.
Jay Leno. Car museum
What the heck jay! No test drive or freeway cruise! Lol keep up the great videos.
Ok I got the answer to my question by re-watching the video, it seems that it is the pressure of the injection system and the atomisation of the diesel that prevents smoke.
that thing is pretty badass
That's nice. The EPA is the organization that issues emissions certifications.
True, but the cars we have are 4 or 6 cylinder and relatively small displacement. This is a much bigger displacement V8 at 6.6litres. Thats why it cant rev as much as smaller displacement diesels.
The emissions controls require the engine to work harder to pump out the exhaust gasses. Power isn't an issue because boost from the turbo can simply be used to make up for power loss. Efficiency (how much power is produced from a given amount of fuel) does suffer because of the extra work the engine has to do.
The only thing that makes a diesel attractive over a gasoline engine is that they are typically more efficient. Without that advantage gas is superior in just about every way possible.
yup!!! after having 4 405 turbo diesels fly past the 250,000mile mark they are bullit proff reliable
The reason why diesel engines are so popular over in europe (especially in germany where I live) is the tax. Diesel fuel is about 15% cheaper than regular 98 octane fuel. And the diesel engine is more efficient as well. On the other side, diesel cars are more expensive to buy, the car tax per year is higher (2x - 3x times) the service costs are higher (turbocharger, particle filter, ..). At the moment the EU thinks about cutting the diesel tax advantage, this could change the situation.
Now, that is not what I said.
It has been an interesting conversation.
You have a wonderful night.
these 2 are great at tucking there shirts
Get a Life,
Well Jay, that's a burnout that'll be hard to beat! lol
"a gallon gas tank, you can make about half a dozen runs on that thing" a quarter mile run 4 runs is a mile plus 2 is a 1 1/2 miles. That truck gets 1.5 miles to a gallon! Yes very fuel efficient indeed!
That's right I live in England, I drive a 2013 BMW X3 with 2.0 litre diesel, 4X4 I get almost 50 mpg. Car built in South Carolina and not sold in the USA. Why would anyone own a Hybrid when you could have this beautiful Cross Over
lol the tramsbrake does not lock the torque converter😂it also is impossible to cool torque converter fluid with an icebox because an unsealed torque converter wouldnt work.
the trans brake put the trans in reverse and forward both
no matter how much power you can get from a clean running diesel with no smoke you can get more power out of it if you add more fuel wich in turn makes the clouds of smoke most diesel racers go for maximum power which means lots of fuel this truck is capable of way more power if they were to add more fuel
Jay doesn't worry bout the cops. He's got a bucket of donuts in reception for them.
Diesel is not as popular in the USA for one reason, taxes put on diesel by the government to keep the cost high. This is due to lobbing by big oil to keep it high. The facts are diesel is more efficient, produces more torque, and produces less CO2. Sure there is more CO2 per gallon but you get more miles per gallon with diesel. Diesel also requires less processing and can easily be produced from non crude oil sources such as renewable bio sources. Great review of the truck Jay.
now that i did not know! cheers!! didnt pug and alfa use hemi heads in their gran prix cars of the 1912s?
Jay I'm sure your neighbors loved the burnout!!!