I think it was during this interview that Derek Daly, who was a pit reporter for the Speed Channel here in the US for this race, walked up to it and was like "let's listen in on Paul Stoddart here" and almost immediately was "never mind, we can't broadcast that."
If anyone wonders why Paul said "his season is over", Jordan and Minardi were scrapping for occasional point finishes (10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1) during the season. With the Jordans clearly quicker than the Minardis, they were sure to finish P3 & P4 (11 points) ahead of Minardi in P5 & P6 (7 points). The chances of Minardi overcoming that were nill. Besides the political bullshit, that's why Paul was so angry.
Still, it's hard to see the injustice when the Jordans were faster all year. If one of the Jordans had broken down, Minardi would have outscored them 9-6 in this race and *that* would have been a travesty. I've never understood why it's not a standard thing in motorsport to award points to all classified finishers, so that battles between slower drivers and teams would be decided based on all the results over the season, rather than solely on the basis of one attritional race where somebody gets a lucky result.
Aside from the fact that a lot of English swear words are used in the Dutch language, it's also OK to swear in Dutch. In this fashion, at least; it's not OK to use foul language to offend people, like calling someone a "fat cunt" or something, of course. And, it also depends on which programs and times. But there are no broadcasting regulations that prohibit the use of any language; it's for the program makers to decide. The only thing that's explicitly forbidden by law, is hate speech.
@shredderkrang Yes, pretty much. And, in general, when words like "damn" or "fuck" are used as exclamation or to stress certain emotions, we're not that uptight about it, like in the US, for instance. It all depends on who says it, the occasion, context, audience, etc., what levels of language are considered acceptable, of course. When a guest on a serious talk show, talking to university professors or ministers, for instance, uses language like that in every sentence, it's considered as crude and somewhat rude, and the moderator will sometimes ask them to consider adjusting their language. But the words won't be bleeped out, in any case.
@shredderkrang In the UK we had a sad, unpleasant old lady called Mary Whitehouse who led a crusade of other sad old ladies and, unfortunately, the television and radio companies made the fatal error of letting the sad old ladies think that their opinions were considered important. Broadcasters would occasionally get fired, which was a disaster because, realising they had the power to inflict pain on other people, the sad old ladies were invigorated and became much more militant. I've always maintained people who complain about television programmes should be ignored.
Had the pleasure of meeting Paul Stoddart back in 2005 when I was about 9 at an F1 Auction showed me around got to meet Christian Albers they gave me some signed postcards remember asking Paul about the sale to Red Bull and he tried telling me it wasn't true lol guys a legend
Interesting after 2005 both Jordan and Minardi changed ownership. Jordan became Midland then Spiker then Force India then Racing Point now Aston Martin. And Minardi became Toro Rosso now AlphaTauri
Half of the season it was raining Jordan DNF's. Never did I beg more for a Jordan going out than this day. Then I would have loved to see Stoddarts face light up, as Minardi would have been the uncatchable one for the rest of 2005. Sadly, that never happened.
I remember watching this race unfold as it happened. I have never been so embarrassed to say that I am a fan of F1 as I was that day. Aside from Paul Stoddart, another person who hit the nail on the head, albeit in a more wordy way, was ITV's lead commentator at the time, James Allen: "Well it's an illustration of how the teams in Formula One simply can't agree, even in the most extreme circumstances. The FIA didn't seem to want to help either. Formula One should be deeply ashamed of itself today, it lost all semblance of common sense here at Indianapolis. Pinch me! Did I really see this?!"
Paul shows some class, unlike F1 management. This is probably the darkest moment in F1 history since Immola 1994, and it made a laughing stock of the sport in the USA I'm impressed the interviewer let him say what he wanted and not pull his punches.
@@anjunabeachball2894 Since Imola? Well Jules Bianchi died since the original comment, and people dying is always a worse thing than any fiasco, no matter how bad the fiasco was.
@@PassiveSmoking Obviously it can't get worse than having a fatal accident, and Bianchi's crash was tragic, but I think it had less impact on the sport than what happened at either Imola 1994 or Indianapolis 2005. Bianchi didn't die until months after the crash, and the event itself was hardly visible on live TV (I think it took until long after the race before all the commentators even knew that Bianchi had even crashed). Compared to what happened in 1994, with very obvious issues during the weekend, and the entire season heavily affected by haphazard attempts to improve safety, not much really changed after Bianchi's crash. So yeah, in some sense Indianapolis remains the darkest moment since Imola, in terms of its impact on the sport.
Bridegestone teams were not at fault here... Flavio briatore said they fucked up and Ferarri or other bridgestone teams are not to blame. And you should wonder if it was Bridgestone who had problems instead of Michelin would the 7 michelin teams have agreed with the chicane? Don't think so... Would recomment the book 'Nightmare in indianapolis' for the people who are interested.
For me the early part of 2012 was almost a tease of how formula one could be, Tyres that you didn't no would last they might make 15 they might not no one knew good overtakes all cars where pretty much fast in there own way mclaren fast down the straight red bull fast through corners slow on straights 8 different winners, that's what formula one need off coruse once red bull made a new exhaust mid season it got a bit boring but before that it was amazing to watch
@trent730 yeah that was really what everybody was wondering about back then. If I remember right the problem simply was because it was against the rules. The teams had to use the tyre which was brought to them by Michelin. Those tyres had problems with the new surface on the track.
Thing is that a chicane would have been an unfair advantage for the Michelin runners. As it was made so clearly evident by earlier crashes that week, Michelin had brought, what can only be surmised as, a softer tire. Obviously looking for that extra speed at Indy, the softer compound would give more grip but would be susceptible to greater loads, greater wear. Had a chicane been installed, the harder Bridgestone tires would have been fractionally slower, giving a disadvantage to their teams.
The only way Minardi ever was going to overcome that gap, is when one of the Jordans would have dropped out of Indy. You can guess what I was praying for that day.
@@RIUUI007 Much less than on many Anglophone channels at least. If you go into a profanity laced tirade they'll cut you off if it's daytime television. Past the watershed? Pretty much anything goes.
Nothing to do with Ferrari. This was all Michelin’s fault. Tyres weren’t safe earlier in the season. Michelin didn’t want to change, they payed the price for it. After 2006, Michelin left.
@@UKDarkPredator Multiple factors lead to the tyre failures. Chicane was a simple solution but Todt and Moseley didn't show up to the meeting and then refused the chicane, thus forcing Michelin runners to withdraw.
Minardi would not get any points for completing 1 lap. You have have to complete 90% of the race laps to be classified in the results and be in a position to gain points. Thats why he is pissed.
Stoddart can say whatever he wants the public on the mic, but he knew full well, in spite of whatever he says and how much he makes its sound like he was willing to pull out, that he was never going to, as there was nothing wrong with his cars or their tires, and having elected not to run would have put them in the way of further consequences and penalties from the organizers, FOM, and the FIA...
"This is not a race, it's a farce...the FIA needs to get a grip with itself and sort this sport out before there's no fucking sport to sort out!" F1 today:
***** we're very lenient compared to other countries, yes.. also, our own profanity is far worse then in most other languages, so we're not really shocked at all, by what stoddard was saying... in fact you can hear the narrator applauding him in the background
the biggest difference is that we make a lot of use of disease names, ranging from cholera to cancer and everything in between, with cancer being the most offensive... you should be able to find more on the subject by doing a google search on dutch profanity
@nachospole1 that crash was during the free practice for the US GP in 2005. The cars are safe but the problem already hit tow cars in two days. Both Toyotas of Ralf Schumacher and Ricardo Zonta had a tyre failure. So it colud possible happen to any Michelin runner. And except for Minardi, Jordan and Ferrari all teams used Michelin tyres.
@trent730 IIRC it was Mosley's idea to change tires every 10 laps. It was in the rules that tires couold be changed if the driver's safety was an issue, which is why Mosley told them to go ahead and change the tires in the race, but the teams said no. They wanted a chicane.
When I heard him talking about the chicane all I could think of was the new moto gp setup for the infield. They put one right where he was describing and then the contract ran out. If they put back the two 180 corners near oval turn 2, they would have been able to run in '08. Fucking stubborn the fia is.
@Jim091051 the accident i was talking about was the death and the point of the chicane is to prevent the stress on the the tyre i bet if ferrari had been michelin runners the chicane would of been put in
If you stumble across this video after Abu Dhabi 2021 realise that this 'effing' farce is the reason I'm thankful every day for Michael Masi prioritising a Motor Race not sporting regulations.
That makes no sense. The sporting regulations are what governs the motor race. You can't have a motor race without them, well maybe banger racing but even that has rules.
@sarin82 you have no idea what your talking about. you said "the michelin teams should have started and then change tyres more often during the race" Changing tyres was BANNED for 2005!
Actually, one of the options proposed was that Michelin runners were to be permitted to change tyres for this race only. Tyre changing was banned in 2005, correct, unless on special safety grounds with FIA delegate approval. Tyre changes during the race were granted during the weekend before the race start but Michelin could not get enough tyres to the USA in time.
The bridgestone runners couldn't be blamed for this... they did what they came to do. This is to blame on Michelin and their runners' decision to pull out of the race. Michelin overdid it with the manufacturing of their racing tires, that's not bridgestones fault. And chicane wouldn't be fair either because that would've given a disadvantage to the bridgestone runners as well. The michelin teams should have started and then change tires more often during the race.
He had perspective, that while rules and regulations and competition matters, a sport like f1 only exists and thrives because it is entertainment. You can't let all the red tape get in the way of putting on some sort of show
@MrRodzilla Disagree. Paul Stoddart couldn't give a monkeyfuck about points, he was always happy with having "little minardi". Can you blame him for being pissed off with Jordan, who told him they'd boycott it too, only to see them run at the last minute so they could get the jump on Minardi in the constructors championship? Paul Stoddart had it spot on, and considering he could have done what Ferrari did and just stay out of anything looking half acceptable, he's a legend.
@nachospole1 Well we can only speculate how the chicane would of been made. But like I said earlier, you can't go changing the track if teams cannot run on the current configuration, because if something did happen, then the courts would simply say :You should not have allowed the Michelin runners to race.
@Maxitsu24 But Michelin was not aible to gain data about the surface and of course,testing in USA was not allowed...if bridgestone wouldnt have been involved in a different US racing series that went into Indy,there would have been no cars running at all
@Minardimaniac Remember, too, that the tire manufacturers had to bring two types of tires to the races: one for performance, one for safety. Michelin only brought the performance tire. Bridgestone brought both.
unfortunately this happent. But it was fair to let the race going on on this way. Ferrari/Jordan/Minardi were ready to race. if the a other team can't race for any reason, becaus they don't have the right equipment its also there problem. there was no problem whit the track. its there fault and they have to blame Michelin. The bridgestone guys did what they had to do...
i agree with paul.
"i can, are you sure?"
"yes"
"This is FUCKING CRAZY"
wouldn't accept it any other way.
Bad ass interview. Paul Stoddart should be the head of the FIA.
Damon Hill would be good as well
@@AlonsoRules Damon hill, Paul Stoddart, and Gerhard Berger all really have the brains to run this sport.
@@tacklefatkids add David Coulthard🤷🏼♂️😂
@@tacklefatkids Berger?? Like the way he handles DTM? Nah...
Paul Stoddart is a boss. He did everything he could to keep Minardi and the little team that could alive and I applaud him for that
On point, sir!
I think it was during this interview that Derek Daly, who was a pit reporter for the Speed Channel here in the US for this race, walked up to it and was like "let's listen in on Paul Stoddart here" and almost immediately was "never mind, we can't broadcast that."
Wow I never knew this. Awesome
Funny how 11 years later, Stoddart's comments are still true.
Stoddy is a no nonsense bloke. Told it exactly how it was.
And again…
@@TerribleUsernameAmirite aaaaaaand again too especially the Saudi Arabia GP
@@tacklefatkids Yes, f1 is sports entertainment
17 years later, it still is. Damn.
If anyone wonders why Paul said "his season is over", Jordan and Minardi were scrapping for occasional point finishes (10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1) during the season. With the Jordans clearly quicker than the Minardis, they were sure to finish P3 & P4 (11 points) ahead of Minardi in P5 & P6 (7 points). The chances of Minardi overcoming that were nill. Besides the political bullshit, that's why Paul was so angry.
Still, it's hard to see the injustice when the Jordans were faster all year. If one of the Jordans had broken down, Minardi would have outscored them 9-6 in this race and *that* would have been a travesty.
I've never understood why it's not a standard thing in motorsport to award points to all classified finishers, so that battles between slower drivers and teams would be decided based on all the results over the season, rather than solely on the basis of one attritional race where somebody gets a lucky result.
'clearly'? The PS5 was just as fast as the Jordan. Albers outqualified a Red Bull in Canada.
@@grunchlk Not overall, the Jordans were usually a bit quicker. On fumes the Minardis could do it, but that would have meant disaster for race day.
This interview is funny because it's true.
Dan Richards it is not funny
@@raniergarcia3600 yeah it is nerd
Fair play to him. He double checked, he could swear.
"I can? Are you sure" "this is ******* crazy" xDDDDD
Everything on point, Paul! Best interview in F1 history!
"You can swear on our TV station, no worries!" Love it!
Dutch have pretty loose approach to profanities as long as there is justification to use them.
Stoddart was a legend. i think he'd be proud where his team have ended up now. No longer the backmarkers!
God bless that man for willingly saying it the way it is once he realized he was ok to do so...
Even though God is against profanity, I agree with you. He's honesty and truthfulness are commendable.
But he got pushed out after this interview. He was already under pressure, but this was the final nail in the coffin.
This is be one of the greatest interviews in F1 history imo
Must be Dutch TV, they swear like crazy. It's ok if it's in English. 😂
Aside from the fact that a lot of English swear words are used in the Dutch language, it's also OK to swear in Dutch. In this fashion, at least; it's not OK to use foul language to offend people, like calling someone a "fat cunt" or something, of course. And, it also depends on which programs and times. But there are no broadcasting regulations that prohibit the use of any language; it's for the program makers to decide. The only thing that's explicitly forbidden by law, is hate speech.
@shredderkrang Yes, pretty much. And, in general, when words like "damn" or "fuck" are used as exclamation or to stress certain emotions, we're not that uptight about it, like in the US, for instance. It all depends on who says it, the occasion, context, audience, etc., what levels of language are considered acceptable, of course. When a guest on a serious talk show, talking to university professors or ministers, for instance, uses language like that in every sentence, it's considered as crude and somewhat rude, and the moderator will sometimes ask them to consider adjusting their language. But the words won't be bleeped out, in any case.
@shredderkrang In the UK we had a sad, unpleasant old lady called Mary Whitehouse who led a crusade of other sad old ladies and, unfortunately, the television and radio companies made the fatal error of letting the sad old ladies think that their opinions were considered important. Broadcasters would occasionally get fired, which was a disaster because, realising they had the power to inflict pain on other people, the sad old ladies were invigorated and became much more militant. I've always maintained people who complain about television programmes should be ignored.
"But you're Kimi fucking Räikkönen come on!"
@@philwoodward5069 the Mary Whitehouse experience
Had the pleasure of meeting Paul Stoddart back in 2005 when I was about 9 at an F1 Auction showed me around got to meet Christian Albers they gave me some signed postcards remember asking Paul about the sale to Red Bull and he tried telling me it wasn't true lol guys a legend
I almost stood up and applauded Paul while watching this, well said
The claps at 0:59 in the background lol.
Olav Mol sharing his appreciation.
Interesting after 2005 both Jordan and Minardi changed ownership. Jordan became Midland then Spiker then Force India then Racing Point now Aston Martin. And Minardi became Toro Rosso now AlphaTauri
Best F1 interview ever
Whenever I have a bad day I always like to listen to this. An honest outpouring from a principled man. We appreciate that he was good for the sport.
Half of the season it was raining Jordan DNF's. Never did I beg more for a Jordan going out than this day. Then I would have loved to see Stoddarts face light up, as Minardi would have been the uncatchable one for the rest of 2005. Sadly, that never happened.
I remember watching this race unfold as it happened. I have never been so embarrassed to say that I am a fan of F1 as I was that day. Aside from Paul Stoddart, another person who hit the nail on the head, albeit in a more wordy way, was ITV's lead commentator at the time, James Allen:
"Well it's an illustration of how the teams in Formula One simply can't agree, even in the most extreme circumstances. The FIA didn't seem to want to help either. Formula One should be deeply ashamed of itself today, it lost all semblance of common sense here at Indianapolis. Pinch me! Did I really see this?!"
imagine his reaction to seeing what the sport has become now
He's still alive...
FORMULA FAN now overtakes actually happen on track! How horrible.
I miss Minardi and Paul.
Same here Minardi were always the little team that could
Who's here after Spa 2021
Paul shows some class, unlike F1 management. This is probably the darkest moment in F1 history since Immola 1994, and it made a laughing stock of the sport in the USA
I'm impressed the interviewer let him say what he wanted and not pull his punches.
"You can swear on Dutch TV" - Dutch Reporter Interviewing Kimi Räikkönen once
still the darkest moment in f1 history?
@@anjunabeachball2894 Since Imola?
Well Jules Bianchi died since the original comment, and people dying is always a worse thing than any fiasco, no matter how bad the fiasco was.
@@PassiveSmoking Spa 2021 too.
@@PassiveSmoking Obviously it can't get worse than having a fatal accident, and Bianchi's crash was tragic, but I think it had less impact on the sport than what happened at either Imola 1994 or Indianapolis 2005.
Bianchi didn't die until months after the crash, and the event itself was hardly visible on live TV (I think it took until long after the race before all the commentators even knew that Bianchi had even crashed). Compared to what happened in 1994, with very obvious issues during the weekend, and the entire season heavily affected by haphazard attempts to improve safety, not much really changed after Bianchi's crash.
So yeah, in some sense Indianapolis remains the darkest moment since Imola, in terms of its impact on the sport.
Paul Stoddart should be the head of the F1 organisation. We would then see some really fair changes to the sport.... Well said Paul.
legendary interview
What a champion of the sport
The funniest interview in f1 history :') go Paul! Miss him!
Bridegestone teams were not at fault here... Flavio briatore said they fucked up and Ferarri or other bridgestone teams are not to blame. And you should wonder if it was Bridgestone who had problems instead of Michelin would the 7 michelin teams have agreed with the chicane? Don't think so...
Would recomment the book 'Nightmare in indianapolis' for the people who are interested.
Ok....I never heard this before.....and it's GOLDEN!! Stoddart should have been running the FIA after this.
For me the early part of 2012 was almost a tease of how formula one could be, Tyres that you didn't no would last they might make 15 they might not no one knew good overtakes all cars where pretty much fast in there own way mclaren fast down the straight red bull fast through corners slow on straights 8 different winners, that's what formula one need off coruse once red bull made a new exhaust mid season it got a bit boring but before that it was amazing to watch
@trent730 yeah that was really what everybody was wondering about back then. If I remember right the problem simply was because it was against the rules. The teams had to use the tyre which was brought to them by Michelin. Those tyres had problems with the new surface on the track.
Thing is that a chicane would have been an unfair advantage for the Michelin runners. As it was made so clearly evident by earlier crashes that week, Michelin had brought, what can only be surmised as, a softer tire. Obviously looking for that extra speed at Indy, the softer compound would give more grip but would be susceptible to greater loads, greater wear. Had a chicane been installed, the harder Bridgestone tires would have been fractionally slower, giving a disadvantage to their teams.
The only way Minardi ever was going to overcome that gap, is when one of the Jordans would have dropped out of Indy. You can guess what I was praying for that day.
Watching this after Aus 23 race for some bizarre reason, can't possibly think why!?
Man! I MISS Minardi...
Hilarious how the reporters gave Paul the permission to swear.
Pretty sure it was the Dutch feed, and also pretty sure that the Dutch networks have no restrictions on foul language.
@@RIUUI007 Much less than on many Anglophone channels at least. If you go into a profanity laced tirade they'll cut you off if it's daytime television. Past the watershed? Pretty much anything goes.
Indeed, but they did tell him to cool it a bit before he kept going off. A few choice words to indicate his passion were sufficient I think.
"Can i speak australian? Are you sure?" We'll ok then...
This is why Ziggo always had the best interviews
The broadcaster back then was RTL, not Ziggo
BRING BACK MINARDI!!!!!
What a legend this guy is, and what a joke this was caused by Ferrari and Mosely.
Nothing to do with Ferrari. This was all Michelin’s fault. Tyres weren’t safe earlier in the season. Michelin didn’t want to change, they payed the price for it. After 2006, Michelin left.
@@UKDarkPredator Multiple factors lead to the tyre failures. Chicane was a simple solution but Todt and Moseley didn't show up to the meeting and then refused the chicane, thus forcing Michelin runners to withdraw.
NubletPie278 Should’ve been prepared to change the tyres earlier in the season instead of just disadvantage Ferrari
Would love to hear what he thought about Abu Dhabi GP 2021.
0:56 Stoddart about the actual F1
dit is de man die gewoon zeg en wat hij denk over formule 1 . fia moet goed naar denken over formele 1 . paul jij de beste
We need Paul back. F1 keeps getting more and more about politics.
Minardi would not get any points for completing 1 lap. You have have to complete 90% of the race laps to be classified in the results and be in a position to gain points.
Thats why he is pissed.
Stoddart can say whatever he wants the public on the mic, but he knew full well, in spite of whatever he says and how much he makes its sound like he was willing to pull out, that he was never going to, as there was nothing wrong with his cars or their tires, and having elected not to run would have put them in the way of further consequences and penalties from the organizers, FOM, and the FIA...
I'd never thought that I'll comeback here after Aussie GP 2020
Couldn't put it any better Paul.
He's not really pissed off about the race itself, he's pissed off about being beaten by Jordan!
"This is not a race, it's a farce...the FIA needs to get a grip with itself and sort this sport out before there's no fucking sport to sort out!"
F1 today:
Refreshing honesty.
Does The Netherlands not have a problem with swearing on TV? Or is just very lenient compared to other countries?
*****
we're very lenient compared to other countries, yes..
also, our own profanity is far worse then in most other languages, so we're not really shocked at all, by what stoddard was saying... in fact you can hear the narrator applauding him in the background
+shelbyenko That sounds interesting. Could you please let us know a few of those swear words? Do your best to translate them :)
the biggest difference is that we make a lot of use of disease names, ranging from cholera to cancer and everything in between, with cancer being the most offensive... you should be able to find more on the subject by doing a google search on dutch profanity
@shredderkrang shredderkrang Jack said: "Is het zo goed, Olav?". Is it good this way, Olav? ☺
Is this the Dutch coverage of the race? (It would explain the swearing and the accents and I thought i recognized Olav Mol's voice)
Yeah it's the dutch tv
Dread to think what Paul Stoddart would have made of Spa 2021!
@nachospole1 that crash was during the free practice for the US GP in 2005. The cars are safe but the problem already hit tow cars in two days. Both Toyotas of Ralf Schumacher and Ricardo Zonta had a tyre failure. So it colud possible happen to any Michelin runner. And except for Minardi, Jordan and Ferrari all teams used Michelin tyres.
“ saddest day in Formula One history“
Pretty hyperbolic considering no one got killed in the race
@trent730 IIRC it was Mosley's idea to change tires every 10 laps. It was in the rules that tires couold be changed if the driver's safety was an issue, which is why Mosley told them to go ahead and change the tires in the race, but the teams said no. They wanted a chicane.
Pitlane Podcast reminded me of this piece of gold-dust.
Love it. Brilliant Paul Stoddart
15 years on, still f1 needs fixing
(Australian GP 2020)
"Forget Ferrari"
This MF Spittin
Who is here after Australia 2020 ?
0:57 and almost 14 years later this is still relevant to today. FIA is still ruining this sport
Almost 16/17 years later and like in Austria they’re still doing it
Love this interview hahahaha! So true though x
awesome! i miss paul stoddart
US GP 2005: biggest shitshow ever in F1
AUS GP 2020: hold my Corona
Belgium GP '21 is on line three
This interviewer is also Jack Plooij, just so you guys know
at least they had v10 sound to listen to
When I heard him talking about the chicane all I could think of was the new moto gp setup for the infield. They put one right where he was describing and then the contract ran out. If they put back the two 180 corners near oval turn 2, they would have been able to run in '08. Fucking stubborn the fia is.
F1 is so sanitized now. This is real
they could hide the laughter but its impossible i never seen the jordan side they took advantage
Lmfao I’m dying at this
Truly sad...
I hope this does not happen on the Austin circuit.
Thumbs up if u want Paul back in F1!!
paul stoddart: the george carlin of formula one (but without the comedy, of course)
Stoddart was way better than George Carlin.
I don't know, this was pretty funny!
@Jim091051 the accident i was talking about was the death and the point of the chicane is to prevent the stress on the the tyre i bet if ferrari had been michelin runners the chicane would of been put in
If you stumble across this video after Abu Dhabi 2021 realise that this 'effing' farce is the reason I'm thankful every day for Michael Masi prioritising a Motor Race not sporting regulations.
That makes no sense. The sporting regulations are what governs the motor race. You can't have a motor race without them, well maybe banger racing but even that has rules.
@sarin82 you have no idea what your talking about.
you said "the michelin teams should have started and then change tyres more often during the race"
Changing tyres was BANNED for 2005!
Actually, one of the options proposed was that Michelin runners were to be permitted to change tyres for this race only. Tyre changing was banned in 2005, correct, unless on special safety grounds with FIA delegate approval. Tyre changes during the race were granted during the weekend before the race start but Michelin could not get enough tyres to the USA in time.
You can swear.....No one's watching anyway
This race fok smashed Paul's season...!
The bridgestone runners couldn't be blamed for this... they did what they came to do.
This is to blame on Michelin and their runners' decision to pull out of the race.
Michelin overdid it with the manufacturing of their racing tires, that's not bridgestones fault.
And chicane wouldn't be fair either because that would've given a disadvantage to the bridgestone runners as well.
The michelin teams should have started and then change tires more often during the race.
Paul Stoddart is the greatest rapper of all time, at least in the view of MBS...
He had perspective, that while rules and regulations and competition matters, a sport like f1 only exists and thrives because it is entertainment. You can't let all the red tape get in the way of putting on some sort of show
@MrRodzilla Disagree. Paul Stoddart couldn't give a monkeyfuck about points, he was always happy with having "little minardi". Can you blame him for being pissed off with Jordan, who told him they'd boycott it too, only to see them run at the last minute so they could get the jump on Minardi in the constructors championship?
Paul Stoddart had it spot on, and considering he could have done what Ferrari did and just stay out of anything looking half acceptable, he's a legend.
@nachospole1 Well we can only speculate how the chicane would of been made. But like I said earlier, you can't go changing the track if teams cannot run on the current configuration, because if something did happen, then the courts would simply say :You should not have allowed the Michelin runners to race.
@trent730 How would i go about getting a copy of the race from, my copy was lost to a fire:_(
Stoddart
Hehe I lived with him when my dad and I worked for him
Well done to Paul Stoddart.
@Maxitsu24 But Michelin was not aible to gain data about the surface and of course,testing in USA was not allowed...if bridgestone wouldnt have been involved in a different US racing series that went into Indy,there would have been no cars running at all
Austraila 2020 about to look like this.
@Minardimaniac Remember, too, that the tire manufacturers had to bring two types of tires to the races: one for performance, one for safety. Michelin only brought the performance tire. Bridgestone brought both.
I just thought this was a normal Aussie conversation..?
unfortunately this happent. But it was fair to let the race going on on this way. Ferrari/Jordan/Minardi were ready to race. if the a other team can't race for any reason, becaus they don't have the right equipment its also there problem. there was no problem whit the track. its there fault and they have to blame Michelin. The bridgestone guys did what they had to do...
British GP 2013, deja vu.
@Jim091051 when was the accident because these cars are realy safe and i dont think a chicane with these modern cars would of been dangerous