SCHUMACHER vs Hamilton EPIC BATTLE ONBOARD F1 2011 Monza
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- M.SCHUMACHER...
SPEED+++ VMAX ...GRIP..0000000000000
L.HAMILTON..... SPEED+ ......GRIP++++
EPIC BATTLE ONBORD
MERCEDES AMG PETRONAS
7x CHAMPION du monde
Septuple
Ferrari/MERCEDES
VETTEL / BABY SCHUMACHER
Schumi is what made many of us start watching F1 back in the 90s. Wake up legend!¡
@Cadee Kiss I must confess that I stopped watching F1 since Schumi left and since they changed to turbo V6. But this season I reengaged. I'm not a Hamiltom fan, but I must accept he is one of the gratest of history and probably will win his 8th championship. He is solid like a rock. Regards mate
@@ivancastillo6343 Schumi stopped me watching too. A Prost fan before that.
After a few years I stopped watching F1 because they won everything. Just like Mercedes now. For the racing itself I watch endurance racing :)
@@ivancastillo6343 Same, good battles this years and sound are little better. I want Jos son win
@@Malc664 ah my brother was with prost and I was with senna
The fact that Hamilton was focusing on overtaking Michael but yet he didn’t make any mistakes is just crazy
Is normal.....not crazy. With that Mclaren compared to schumi's crap mercedes should have been much more easy to overtake him...but he didn't had the skill.
He was trying to force him into errors. Stop hating. It takes guts to pressure someone without making mistakes yourself
@@cristianseibriger799 that’s stupid. Do you realise what the fuck your saying? You can see in a straight line the merc is actually quicker, it’s monza, all about straight line speed. Also you claim that , that McLaren was good? It was not even in the top 3 cars at the time. On most other tracks, yes he would have took him quicker, but not at monza
@@damedusa5107 And you can hear that lewis ran out of revs at the end of the pit straight. The gears are to short and as @Da Medusa was saying the merc was anoyingly quick in the straight line and even though lewis had DRS he pulled away from him
7:48 he make mistake
Hamilton: let me pass!
Schumacher: No..
Not just that but the sheer intelligence and brilliance of car placement from Schumacher! Keeping his defensive line whilst still giving hamilton plenty of room! THAT was racing! Now don't think for one minute that I'm knocking any of today's drivers, but there's a cry of "dangerous driving!" Every 5mins causing race control's ears to prick up..
Bigger Issues mclaren was a far better car than mercedes in 2012.
Bigger Issues First of all, this is motorsport. Of course the driver skill doesn’t fully weight on the results. Specially from the late 80's onwards. That’s obvious.
Second I didn’t said Schumacher was better than Hamilton, because I can’t say that with no bigger value than personal opinion.
And to be honest i really don’t have an opinion on that at all. It’s a tough one. But for me both of them are not the best drivers ever. Though they’re the greatest winners indeed.
Yes, if in one hand the evidence does not support Michael superiority over Hamilton, than it doesn’t do the opposite either. The fact is: Mclaren was a far better car than the early Mercedes, that’s a fact, not opinion. Just look up the numbers.
Schumacher was a 43 retired driver fighting a far younger exceptional talent. He was no more the same Schumacher when he retired in 2006. One can easily say he was far behind hid better form when he returned fours years later.
I would base this opinion on how difficult their car was to drive
Hamilton: I need more top speed
Can we just acknowledge the sheer brilliance of Schumi here. Apart from that move where he nearly put Lewis on the grass, his defending was just masterful.
absolutely agree
Absolutely agree... However pushing Lewis to the grass was a bit of a "dirty" move that could end up with an accident. Shows a bit of the true Schumacher spirit! Phenomenal driving from both of them...
well, he defended a little dirty in some corners actually.
I don't think it was dirty.. it was on the edge for sure... senna would have done the same... if ur in front, u pick the line
@@Gambit8319 Senna was a dirty driver too and the defending rules are very clear, if you go off the racing line to defend the position you need allways to leave the space of one car in the racing line. Schumacker was clearly allways leaving the racing line to defend and then he would not leave space and block Hamilton on the racing line, wich is a clear rule violation.
I am NOT a Hamilton supporter, but that was an awesome piece of driving from Hamilton there - full attack, no mistakes. Credit where it's due.
Passing Michael Schumacher at Monza is like battling a DEVIL Z at Wangan Midnight. Very hard to pass...
Lewis learned a few things that day.
Just as he had learned from senna
Yep, he learned that he needed a higher Rev limit.
what is that? Hamilton finished ahead at the end
Well he's a good student...
Schumacher had warning because the way he was defending this day.
thirteen world championships in one video, absolute legends, hamilton was a beast but schumacher was on another level.
14 WC tittle, you forgot Button..
@Marin Zovko are you serious or insane or what lewis is more talented ha ha ha ha ha are you comparing someone who is could 42 years old with an awful car who competed against hakkinen senna prost villeneuve hill mansell coulthard to someone with the greatest cars ever he had driven a weak car never unlike schumacher who never needed a good car to prove he is the greatest lewis greatest is sebastien ha ha ha ha who granted him 2 free championships especially in 2018 and a lot of race wins this year merceders 3 rd driver i dare this british pussy to win one race only with a mediocre car not 2 championships he 'll never do that because that ways above his level he has the most prestigious unconquerable car ever even ferrari wasn't this good and bmw was much faster than it on the straights prme schumacher with equal cars would destroy him if micheal had this merceders and this weak era he would have achieved records that no one can beat but him there is schumacher and then the rest i wish this pussy gets injured for good
@Marin Zovko there is no one who could defend this at 42 years old micheal in his first qualifying with an awful car ualified 7 th better than his experienced teammate malaysia 99 after his leg was broken he qualified 1 with a whole second gap prime schumacher with equal cars would eat any driver alive lewis is achieving this number only because he has the greatest and the most powerful car ever and this is the weakest era ever and everyody knows this if this british pussy competed with hakinnen senna villeneuve coulthard .... he would have never achieved this numbers no fuel rigs one tire company not much dnfs like old days no drs totally different f1 died long time ago especially with drs if schumacher was art he would be the picasso of it never needed a good car to prove himself time and time again lewis can't do a shit with weak teams i dare to win only one race in a midfield team he will never do that because he is too weak for that
@@riadhhamidi4968 You are just rambling... Hamilton had a sh*t car in 2009 and 2010... Yet he won at least one race every season.
And Schumi never had a bad car. You don't know what you are talking about
Comparing against tough rivals
Michael schumacher vs aryton senna
Michael schumacher vs damon hill
Michael schumacher vs mika hakkenen
Michael schumacher vs rubens barichello
Michael schumacher vs villenuve
Michael schumacher vs juan pablo montoya
Michael schumacher vs alonso (Age)
Michael schumacher vs a young rosberg
comparing lewis it was only alonso who could fit his caliber all these years
A fast mercedes has made life easy for lewis
Schumi is greatest driver of all time💪🏼
When Lewis finally gets him into turn 1, and then Michael goes straight past again on the outside of Curva Grande. It's rare we get to see the two best drivers of their respective eras racing each other, and especially this well.
Lewis is good but not the best driver in his era. Kimi, Alonso both are better drivers. Ham even lost against Rosberg. The Mercedes won all those titles.
@@MM-nc7qf The Ferrari won Schumacher his titles, the Renault won Alonso his, how far back do you want to go? It's been that way since the 1990s at the very least and arguably since day dot.
Best driver, best car. That's just how it works. If it was best driver alone, Alonso should have never lost a race.
@@MM-nc7qf roseburg also won against shumi
@@MM-nc7qf Hamilton beat Rosberg twice before 2016. Ham had 2 dnfs and was still so close in the points
@@MM-nc7qf SHITKONEN 🤣 COMPARING THAT CRYING FINNISH CLOWN WHO WAS BEATEN BY MASSA 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
this is pure racing. Michael is a 7 times WDC for some reason... He knows all the moves that Hamilton could possible throw at him. he raced in the early 90's where he learned ALL these tricks with the past legends. A trully great driver Michael was. Personally I'm not a fan of his, but I can still appreciate what he was able to achieve.
what legend? lol he moved twice everytime hamilton tried to overtake him to the point that ross brawn told him to stop his dirty tricks. Glad hamilton broke his records LOL
@@travisfubu9053 mmmm no lo se rick...creo que eres fan boy
@@travisfubu9053 schumi was the far superior driver of the 2. Lewis had to fight nobody but his teammate. While michael pulled ferrari from the grave, made it a top team again, whilst fighting williams and mclaren.
@@travisfubu9053 Hamilton breake some records, but not all, he didin't win 13 times in a season, they are tied in podiums in consecutive season being both at 15, tied in most pole positions in one grand prix, and both have 7 world titles, so they are tied in a lot of records, and he hasn't break some of Schumi's records
@@Haltzoschumi itself designed the 2004 car, he is not just a driver he is also an engineer a team principal
The greatest defense lesson of the last ten years
no, just one of his many shameful dirty blocking lessons, such incredible driver would be much better off without it
@@ginorodrigues Senna was not dirty ? haha ...
Watch Imola 2006
Cunga Lunga Senna? 2006?? You are mistaken, I commented on a video about Schumacher, where he does block Hamilton ridiculously. We may comment about Senna on his videos.
Gino Rodrigues Thats fight men Hamilton could have learned a lot.....btw imola 2006 Alonso is behind all race
Two legends going wheel to wheel for basically half a race. Love to see it
Possibly we could see Leclerc vs Verstappen in 2025 like Hamilton vs M. Schumacher 2011.
Schumacher! For a 42 year old he sure still had the pace to keep up with the these young guys, wish we got more of these race during his Mercedes time.
Lewis: Right time to get into his slipstream
Michael: I eat slipstream for breakfast.
This was a great battle I could watch this all day.
on the easiest track on the grid. plus the stewards letting him get away with his unsporting driving only "warning" him
@@bobbaganush17
Wasn’t to only time he done. Canada. British GP, German GP, China, Spanish GP. Crymilton
@@DaniMacYoLewis fans always cry imagine no kers or drs Lewis wouldn't do anything 😂😂 Michael schumacher would bully him
@@andrewwright4195
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@DaniMacYo Lewis fans try put him ahead of Michael but for me no matter how many titles he wins Michael schumacher is the goat they try to play him down because he was dirty it embarrassing
I miss you Michael...the kaiser
Surprisingly, even Ayumu Uehara also a massive fan of the kaiser, Michael Schumacher....😢
Jose mourinho learned to play defensive from schumi i think😂
The driver capable to make the pole in Monaco at 43 years old still is not born after Michael...
@@yurysin5025 Wow, I bet Schumacher was on his prime when that happened.
@@yurysin5025 rosberg didnt won the championchip 2010 to 2012
@@toronto543ontario6
we are not defining by a single moment. you are.
@@toronto543ontario6
I think you should be taught proper reading.
I said we are not defining.
You are the one who claimed so.
And you are the one defining by single moment, trying to hit.
Should I clarify more?
@@toronto543ontario6
He basically praised Schumacher for his lap in Monaco2012. He is allowed to do that, right?
Then, you and another guy started whining.
What are you talking about?
Impresionante, 15 minutos atacando, 15 minutos defendiendo, ambos al máximo y sin ni un solo error, increíble,
God, if only Schumacher were still in his prime and in a ferrari this year. Imagine the fights we could witness. Sad that they never really had the chance to fight eachother for the win while their careers overlapped either. Not saying Leclerc or Seb aren't good. It's just different.
Renee Rehe Schumi was just...Next Level!
Vettel is a Champ on a strong car, Leclrec Huge talent, able to win even with an inferior car!
@@denisbukri1682 yeap if Leclerc had a car with great downforce and performance like redbull you would see wonders his defense tactics are also so amazing when i watched this video the monza 2019 rang a bell to me
@@unrivaled4350 that’s only cause the Ferrari was so quick in the straight line. That’s the only reason they ever were competent
Schumacher the hardest dude in F1
*PAUSE
Schumacher will remain the legend that will not be repeated،
The legend of all times, Michael Schumacher
...except it has been and bettered?
By winning a title by punting the other driver off, for trying it again and getting disqualified from a season, for having a handbag moment with DC, for refusing to have a team mate actually allowed to race him and for letting Rosberg beat him like a ginger stepchild for 3 years.
Even in 2024, M. Schumacher forever is the legend.
Coming here after Hamilton’s 6th championship win. How Insane to think we actually saw these 2 race like this, not knowing what was to come in the future. The 2 greatest of all time (arguably) so lucky to see this happen!
Hamilton is nothing compared to michael or senna fam
Goku sama Kakarotto I’m not a formula 1 driver so I can’t comment. I just think they are all amazing and deserve everything they have.
JJ Modelling neither am I unfortunately and hamilton deserves all the praise in the world but that is it he isn’t on the same level as those 2 at least from the pov of most f1 fans
Goku sama Kakarotto think it’s just a case of rose tinted glasses. Everyone believes the old times were better, give it a few years after he retires and he will be remembered along side them
You compare Hamilton to Schumacher? Honestly? Schu was another level.
Schumacher competed with a very low downforce setup. So the car was very angry during in the corner.. With this setup, it is very difficult to control the car in the corner. It was a exhausting drive. Schumi, on the other hand, was able to brake as late as his opponent. It was his master defense ability.
Schumacher had a top speed advantage, but Lewis had a speed advantage in the corner. It also had the benefits of traction and braking.
If there were no orders from the back room, he would never have let it pass.
Simply the best.
i watched the race again recently. didn't anything about very low downforce setting. I heard about Ross warning him couple times about illegal moves.
I think it had more to do with the gear ratio's, Lewis hit the rev limiter at 330 kph while Button got past Schumacher more easily as he had a longer 7th gear and thus could reach a higher top speed.
Your description was absolutely stunning! There's no one pilot in formula1 with this ability, the Mercedes was crap car and even though he drove on the edge, putting the car over limit, if you think about it, is scary how he could deliver; the car far away behind with strong engine though, your skills was years ahead everyone else even today; and that's scary as hell!
schumi her zaman kalbimde ki sampiyondur vallahi :) Sirf adini goreyim diye F1 2012 oynuyorum bir de seslerden dolayi :) Gercek bir yarışçıydı ama adam ne hale geldi aksilikler yüzünden. Schumi benim için gelmiş geçmiş en iyi yarışçıdır.
I am sorry dude, but that is just not true! The Merc had better top speed because they employed those slits in the front wing to nullify the rear wing down the straight which helped Schumi massively for his top speed. Still great driving though!
Schumi always was good in defending. He was hard to pass
The Dale Earnhardt of F1, close race between who was harder to pass.
defending was very hard in 2011because of DRS ...Pass through was lame...
He know
His car had more top speed than Hamilton car. It's about the setup
a little dirty.
This is the textbook definition of "trying your hardest". Whenever I feel like I'm not doing enough with my life I come watch this
7:50 Schumi: 'Don't test me boy!'
He should have taken Lulu Crymilton out.
2011-2012 was the best era F1 could ever get.
Multiple competitive people
Lots of Interesting Teams and Wasn’t one Sided
The Diffusers 🤩
The V8s 🤩
The Liveries
And many other reasons to love that season
Hard to disagree
And also years when F1 games were at its true peak (F1 2010 to 2013 and later, 2016 to 2021).
That's a disrespect of 2010.
HAMILTON= 330 KM/H IN DRS
SCHUMACHER= 331 KM/H NO DRS
GOOD BAD
Hamilton hits the rev limiter
The McLaren had no legs. Shows how close Mercedes was to a fast car.
Yea with the same engine too. I don't understand why but ok
@@Malc664 The McLaren was faster than the merc in 2011. McLaren just used a high downforce setup at this race. Look at the rear wings and then you will see that the angle on thr McLaren is greater and therefore higher downforce.
These little kiddo BOOMER need to see all clips from Michael Schumacher from his first career than compare his skill to you Lewis f*cking cheating Hamilton. This Hamilton is nothing but pure luck with best car. His 8x championship means nothing compared to Michael, not to mention he has lot of cheating like causing other driver out of track or almost crash, also don't forget Lewis scandal at 2018 German GP when he do corner cutting but no penalty was given for him, yet he and his team still making lot of excuse. Michael is true legend, Lewis is just pathetic loser.
7 time wdc vs 6 time wdc.But to me Schumacher was and still is a fucking legend and the greatest of all time
of course without a shadow of doubt there will never be another micheal he never needed a good car to prove time and time again how much he's talented first race ever qualified 7 th in a weak car and competed against the greatest senna prost mansell hakinnen alonso raikonnen if he had drs and not so much dnfs especially 2005 and 2006 and if he had superior car for 12 years and drs he would acheive records that no one can beat except him hamilton king of weak era with superior car and superior strategies the king of f1 there is no one that this british arrrogant luckiest man king of weak era doesn't have a chance against schumacher on his prime he's gratest rival is vettel complete joke they are uncomparable i dare lewis to win 2 championships in a mediocre car he 'll never do it at 42 years with much weaker car and with drs he couldn't overtake him king and greatest of the great schumi
If anyone wants to see what happens when these two race each other and Hamilton doesn't have a compromised car then watch these video's.
China 2010 and Monaco 2011.
streamable.com/ndwtj
th-cam.com/video/HHFj0NEUNeY/w-d-xo.html
Where is Schumacher's superiority here then? How come Schumacher couldn't keep Hamilton behind when Hamilton's car had no settup problems?
The fact is that without Hamilton having a compromised car and without Schumacher using numerous illegal defensive manoeuvres he had no chance against Hamilton who would have beaten him in the same car even worse than Rosberg did.
Marine Senna ti je najbolji svih vremena just sayin
There he was a one Time world champion
Marin Zovko 7 to 1 at this time
Legendary battles!! CLEAN battles! That's one of the many things F1 misses today...
Since 2022 to 2024, battles are very short thanks to its much more powerful DRS.
F1 is dead after 2014. So what you seek has been rotten in the ground
@@purwantiallan5089it was always like that after F1 dediced the design of cars and lowered the spoiler. Before the cars has high speed on straight and after it isn't that much without DRS. Ever since that happened DRS become a ridiculous thing which killed F1 with V6 engines
15min of PURE F1.
Fabulous! I remember watch this on top of my feet for many many laps. This day I forgot I am a Hamilton fan and back on time 10 years and of course had to cheer on MSC once again. Is great to see how rude, harsch the moves became between the two along the fight. Great great stuff! And keep fighting like this Schumacher!
Wow dude, I'll never get bored of Monza, what a track
First time i drove this Monza was back in the days of Gran Turismo 5.😢
For an example of dirty air - look at the antenna on front of car around ~11:39 Watch has lewis slips in behind michael and see it begin to oscillate.
great spot
Good eye, sir.
is it dirty air??? .Isn't there a greater effect on slipstream on that gap than Dirty air?
Is your Petronas a Hawk?
@@ddeagy there's still the slipstream to pull you in but the definition of "dirty air" is that it takes away like 15-20% of your total front down force. The car is no longer "planted"
Its like watching Neo fighting Morpheus. "stop trying to hit me and hit me!"
Hahah so true!
Very good!
“I know kung fu.”
“Show me.”
@@Luckno71 because he got the best car ever produced. In 2016 driving the same car Nico Rosberg became The One. Any good driver can become The One in that car. If Hamilton retires the new One will be Bottas. Not because he's that good, but because he's sitting in a great car.
Driver steward Derek Daley admitted that he should have penalised Schumacher this race but he didn't get the chance to because he was distracted by having to deal with another incidents.
www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/8764604/Michael-Schumacher-should-have-been-punished-for-blocking-Lewis-Hamilton-at-Italian-Grand-Prix.html
You're still a legend Michael Schumacher.
7:51, Hamilton knows that the driver he wants to overtake is Shumi and that guy used to race with crazy and ruthless drivers like Senna, etc. So, he knows that he will close the door. If he tries to take the corner, they will crash. That's what I like about F1, its not all about speed, it also aboout pyschological warfare.
Psychological warfare very true
It's literally just dirty defending but ok
I think that Hamilton staying right on Schumy gearbox lap after lap before finally overtaking was pretty impressive especially given Schumy defensive tactics of weaving all over the straights, moving under braking, exceeding track limits, etc. But at least it didn’t end in a crash.
I love Schumacher... greetings from Brazil
Schumacher, the grey: You shall not pass!
M Schumacher absolutely top, the greatest of all time
The sound of the engines back then give me the chills down my spine
One of Schumacher's best and underrated races in his comeback, it wasn't a come from behind extravaganza, mainly just hard, defensive racing.
This battle between them deserved 10/10.
5:01 one of f1's most insane battles
Thank you Michael, you are the king! I hope the best for you in future❤️
His brain dead.
@@mrforevernever517 no, his brain is not dead. its injured but not dead. stfu
@@mrforevernever517 his dead brain works better than your alive one for sure.
7:50 Grande Michael!
Senna fez muito isso com ele em 92 e com Prost em 93 kk k
:v
What a dick
Retro Lover he is a legend. No one with brain cell will deny that.but that’s a dangerous and dirty af
@@bookedfive what a legend
I once had the pleasure of witnessing Mr Schumacher race, I entered the circuit hating him, I left in awe. I have never seen anyone, before or since, keep a car on the very sharpest edge of its capabilities so hard for so long. Perhaps Senna had it too but for me, he was too aggresive, Fangio was a loony, Schumacher had both and cold calculated intelligence and dedication ontop.
Why was Fangio a loony? I thought he was an intelligent driver through out his career except maybe monza 1951.
Fangio is the GOAT. 5 WDC with 4 different constructors, and 1 second place, during a time when there was no safety, cars had no driver aids, tires were very narrow, cars had no aero, and they were a beast to drive. He also trained himself as a mechanic. So, he knew the mechanics of a car and how it worked. He was no loony. He was an intelligent, gifted, and calculating driver.
@@erwinr9328 to be fair to drive f1 cars at the time he did, he had to be a loony
@@erwinr9328 what happened in monza?
THE BEST FIGHT I EVER WATCHED.
The best fights Schumacher has ever had are with Hakkinen , Montoya and Alonso .....
@@alb9229 still this was pretty good, but i agree not better than the ones he had with Hakkinen , Montoya and Alonso
@@alb9229 he say he's ever watch
The crowd must have gone insane. Schumi Is still king in Italy.
This is indeed a battle between 2 crazymf's...2 legends at war!
This video is made possible by Mercedes’ incredible straightline speed with Michael’s masterclass defending
Hamilton took too much wing that weekend. Seeing Schumy being able to take the corners almost as fast as the mclaren with high df setup driven by ham at 42 impresses me even more
This was such a fantastic, absolutely great battle!!!
Hamilton: let me pass
Schumacher: i am not bottas
Hamilton passed him on that race and finished ahead lol
@@travisfubu9053 highly superior car
@@DimitarFCBM highly inferior on straights
@@travisfubu9053after RB told Schumi to release Lewis 😂
Jesus the sound of these engines is phenomenal.
Wish we could go back to that era of machine.
Shumi…you're my fucking hero
Firstly, Schumacher is a beast!!! Imagine if current cars could race that close, there's no comparison to today's procession!
Here's what happens when Hamilton races Schumacher without completely inefficient gear ratios. China 2010 and Monaco 2011
streamable.com/ndwtj
th-cam.com/video/HHFj0NEUNeY/w-d-xo.html
The only reason Hamilton didnt pass him was because of his gearing. Marvellous defending masterclass nontheless, i will always prefer his defending over max. Schumi defends the racing line, max blocks it.
Could one use this video as proof that DRS doesn't equal a guaranteed pass, do you think?
@@kyrie6910 Yeah i would say so. But then again this was against the old record champ
Yeah, Hamilton tops out at 328 with DRS, slipstream benefit. Schumacher is doing at least 331 from the one shot we had.
marvellous defending meaning dirty defending? Almost in every corner that Lewis was going to pass him he broke the F1 defending rules.
Max Jumps in the way of the racing line. Lol
Schumacher dirty dangerous move at 7:52. McLaren no match for Mercedes on the straights but Lewis seemed faster through the corners but Micheal put the car in the right place.
Not at all. Brilliant racing from both of them.
The student vs The master
yellow_X The Master of Hamilton is Senna, the king, the best !!!
@@OMagoImplacavel Senna 🤣
More like Hamilton vs the botched, sub optimal gear ratios McLaren gave him this race.
@@MT-pv2rf keep crying
Adicka Adooki lol. You have no rebuttal. The McLaren was a better car than Mercedes back then but at this particular race McLaren screwed up Hamilton's gear ratios which resulted in him hitting the rev limiter far too early along the straights which also had the added effect of shutting his DRS long before the braking zones. It was a clear compromised settup and combined with Schumacher's numerous illegal defensive manoeuvres the only reasons there was any kind of battle here.
Hamilton would have easily dispatched Schumy without his car issues while Schumacher himself needed to worry about far more important things like getting obliterated by Nico Rosberg 3-0 from 2010-2012.
Now run along you big baby.
7:50 Classic class from Michael
LH didn't have the position to make that move, dangerous on both of them.
@@alexbrown4426 You need to watch some Curva Grande side by side action
@@alexbrown4426 what?? Yes he did? Are we watching the same video? He had plenty of room until Schumacher closed it out in him
Yep about right lol
Great driving from Schumi at that age, although quite aggressive for some I guess.
Prins van Oranje he can't see a yellow helmet inside a McLaren....
Michael did great. I'm sure Lewis would have done the same
Hamilton would be trying to pass Schumi till the end of the race, if Michael didn't get order from Ross Brawn to "let the kid go"... :)
Before that American destroyed f1 you needed to be aggressive.
Matt B you know Hamilton is British right
Schumacher era um monstro, com mais de 40 anos, Hamilton claramente com um carro melhor e ele retarda a freada, faz um traçado diferente e dá um trabalho desse. Michael o melhor que já vi.
I would love to see Schumi, Lewis and Nando at their absolute peak fighting. And throw in Kimi when he was a monster in the McLaren days.
Well, Schumi would outperform them. He did with Senna in his first season.
7 titles vs 7 future titles, i think Long Time for see this again
There you can see the truth - Hamilton was nowhere compared to the 42 year old Michael Schumacher. The old Schumacher, who was driving in a much slower Mercedes, he had only one weapon: good high-speed. He still managed to keep himself in front of Hamilton whole race long (Hamilton finally passed him with the last pitstops, so not Michael's fault). And for those who thinks that in a track like Monza you can't do anything against better highspeed, and that's why Hamilton couldn't overtake him, here is some fun fact: Hamilton's team mate, Jenson Button with the same McLaren overtook both of them in only 1 lap.
Jenson button had a better setup tho
McLaren screwed up Hamilton's gear ratio's this race. Its the only reason Schumacher had any chance - plus of course his illegal defensive manoeuvres.
As for Button he literally made the move with better momentum after Schumacher has just illegally forced Hamilton off the road. Man you're a complete fucking idiot who knows zero about f1.
HAHA! Kid, you are such a moronic newbie. teammates can run different setups. This track is ALL about straight-line speed. Jesus Christ, kiddo, have you ever watched an F1 race? Clearly not.
The truth? Here's the truth. Hamilton already schooled Schumacher a year before this at China 2010.
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Without Hamilton's obviously comprised car at Monza 2011 it would have gone down the same way.
@@MT-pv2rf If you copy paste the same thing everywhere, I will do the same for the summary of yours.
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This "M T" guy is the most biased/ignorant/clueless/obsessed F1 fan I have ever seen. He is a disgrace.
He just spams lots of videos with his ignorant dumb shit.
-He uses Villeneuve's, Herbert's, lots of british journalist's and current
Mercedes team members' interviews to prove that Hamilton is the GOAT.
-Here in this very video he says Hamilton's car is compromised but then shows China2010 as an example of Hamilton schooling Schumacher.
-He brings up shitload of dumbass excuses like "NicOLe duMPed hiMMM in 2011 :(((" and loses his mind when you mention Button and Rosberg beating Hamilton.
-But when we mention Schumacher being in his 40s, returning after a 3 year hiatus, his neck injury from 2009 bike accident and his 2012 performance and technical issues, he loses his mind again and screams "Rosberg beat Schumacher 3-0, wHy doN't yoU acCepttTT"
-He think Schumacher was on his prime post2010. Because he desperately forces himself to believe this crap nobody believes. And he is using the dumbest things possible to prove this. He says Schumacher was walking topless around Rosberg in briefings to show how fit he was. He even says Fangio's titles which he won in his 40s in 1950s prove that Schumacher was on his prime post2010. He is so biased/ignorant that it is laughable.
Hamilton's McLaren couldn't even go quicker than the Merc with DRS and KERS but Schumacher still never got away from him.
2012 mercedes lacked reliability to perform on the track corners. Mclaren was overall a better car, even Button finished the seasom with far better results than Nico and Michael.
@@bourbonnrock-videoslegendados This is 2011
Emgee so it’s even worse because the gap between the two teams was bigger in 2011.
@@bourbonnrock-videoslegendados When you're in a hole, drop the shovel.
Emgee what? This isn’t me saying man, that’s numbers, facts. Just look up the season results LOL
The difference between a good driver, and a Legend.
Both are legends. Such disrespect
You said the truth here. Ham was never on a level with Michael. Put ham now in an alpine for ex.like schumi had his ferrari in 96 and 97. He would only complain and cry doing nothing. Russel beating him now is the best example
@@vonPelger The Ferrari in 97 was a title contender... In 96 it was the 2nd best car. The alpine now is 4th or 5th best car. How are u comparing that.
@@cornishpastywastaken 96 it was behind williams and benetton. 97 title contender? Ask Eddie... it was a disaster of a car. Schumy managed wins in monaco and spa only because of his ability to drive in rain. He had a chance because he was a Legend and the Williams drivers drove not always on championship level...
@@cornishpastywastaken and don't forget about Benetton in 97. It was damn fast even in preseason already. Look at argentina, silverstone, barcelona. Mclaren too was faster on some circuits. Ferrari was not a car for title contension. Schumacher was and made Ferrari
Both incredible drivers. The Mercedes was clearly faster on the straights here, ignore the silly comments downplaying hamilton. Michael made plenty of mistakes in this video but the acceleration and top speed of the Mercedes even with Lewis slip streaming, was enough to stay ahead
aula de como defender uma posição com Michael Schumacher.
Boa noite !!!!!
Primeiro vídeo que eu vejo e já me inscreví no canal.
Schumacher, simplesmente o Melhor....
Obrigado pelo vídeo e parabéns pelo canal.
Abraço do Brasil.
Almost defeats the purpose of DRS when you're just sitting on the Rev limiter in 7th gear, and the other car is still pulling away. McLaren needed a little bit longer 7th gear, and they would have been fine.
but then he wouldn't of had the drive out the corners
indeed, its frustrating.
Funny cos Button passed Schumi on the first try 😂
@@AAA310 Button ran a different setup to Hamilton. Hamilton's car was setup to be running at the front, but that didn't go to plan
8Dsmiley93 excuses 🤡
The straight line speed of MSC Mercedes compared to the drs McLaren is crazy.
This is the difference between boys and girls. This is a difference between a champion and a LEGEND.
And then Lewis complained on the radio Micheal is holding him up so Ross Brawn had to tell Michael to "let the kid pass". And this is how Lewis Hamilton overtook Michael...
Micheal blocked him twice though
@@comparecars_org yeah but also you have to give space to the person you racing
@@comparecars_org nah i love michael as much as you but thats not fair how he block him on 6:43 thats dirty driving from schumi
@@comparecars_orgwell at the end Lewis finished ahead so big L to michael all that excessive defence was for nothing
@@comparecars_org also i gave you wrong time stamp it was at 7:51
This really put a smile on my face! Thank you! I think Hamilton learned more in one race about racecraft, positioning and blocking your opponent than his whole career before that! :D
Well, someone who had to hold off Prost in the Portugal Grand Prix certainly knows how to hold other people off.
Exodus exactly and now Hamilton does the same thing. They all learn over time from the greats before them. Then add their own touch.
Hamilton cry to dad Ron Dennis to speak to the race Stewarts to tell Michael to let gaymilton pass ,Hamilton cancer in F1
I think his race craft was fine before if you look at his junior career, Schumacher placed his car very well with the skinny wing and Hamiltons short 7th gear. Pity the uploader didn't show when Schuey accidently skipped a gear that allowed Hamilton to pass.
@@VTiDOHC He was asked by his team through radio to let Hamilton pass.
That Mercedes had a huge straight line speed advantage
yes but with the drs it was quite even and schumacher had horrible grip
The master taught the young upstart afew lessons that day
battle? Just saw a desperate young driver in a much much better car couldnt overtake the greatest driver that ever existed.
Hamilton had an inefficient gear ratio setting and you can clearly hear him hitting the rev limiter long before the end of the straight.
FYI. Hamilton and Schumacher already met on track before this where Hamilton schooled him in China 2010 and Monaco 2011.
@@blokin5039 But he'll always be a little pup compared to Schumacher.
Amazing defense by Schumi and amazing drive for Lewis but if you can see the drag when Lewis was head to head with Schumi was to much.Cause with DRS slipstream and KERS was right on Schumi’s tail.👏🏼👏🏼Amazing drive from Schumi and Lewis👏🏼👏🏼
Hamilton thanking his luck that he came to F1 after 2006
@@toronto543ontario6 i doupt about that. For sure he is a good driver but only with a superior car and without a competitive teammate. Back then there was 3 4 strong teams with very good drivers.
danny ribeiro not possible against shumi with Ferrari
@@kinigos84 what and Schumacher's teammates were always so competitive and his cars were all shit were they?
@@kinigos84 Schumacher had the best car.........his teammates were wingmen.... at least Nico rosberg won a championship but Ruben barichello has never won ..
This is like music. Discordant, cacophonous, yet the most relaxing and exciting music.
A battle this long would be impossible with the current f1's due the battery's
huh?why not?
What about the fuel?
Some say Schumi wasn't that good racer, but overtook HAM Outside with a less good car...come on
DRS vs ''Old School'' Good job Michael.
That merc is so insanely fast on the main straight either hamilton was running high wing or the merc was just insane
He was on high downforce setup and Schumy on the classic monza low df
@5:27 that overtake around the outside was spectacular
This is better than 100 DRS overtakes that people rave about. Lets have way more overtaking. (no lets have cars that can follow and battling like this) awesome thanks for posting.
2011 had DRS.
LMAOOOOO dumbass, sometimes it’s better not to whinge about everything
Imagine it would have been a lot easier if Hamilton's McLaren could match the Mercedes for speed. The bit where he pulls out of the slipstream on the straight and still can't outpace the Mercedes really highlighted that, and the fact the Mercedes was matching the McLaren for pace with just the raw power whilst Hamilton had slipstream, DRS and the ERS all activated. On a track where top speed is king, Hamilton's lower top speed really hindered him whilst Schumacher could simply breeze past on any long straight.
La defensa de Schumacher es extraordinaria, pero Hamilton abriendo DRS en la recta de Monza no lo podía pasar, el motor del Mercedes era muy superior arriba a McLaren, sino Hamilton lo hubiese pasado, salía chupado atrás en la entrada de la curva y después no le daba el motor, hoy no pasan estas cosas, se extraña
Ellos tenean el mismo motor, pero la McLaren no podea lograr una velocidad tan alta porqué el set-up era diferente.
Si depende de las máquinas tambien
That Merc was a rocketship on the straights
That was the best defence i´ve ever seen in my life. Also is important to mention the masive focus of Hamilton to don´t do any mistake, just INCREDIBLE
Schumi... was a true beast!
Then, Lewis Hamilton is the "Monster" and he'll claim 7 titles this year! #StillWeRise
@@toronto543ontario6 True! Lewis Hamilton will kicking Michael Schumacher off his hospital bed if he claims his 7th title this year!
@@madkhaliqfarhan piss off, Hamilton for most part of his career has been in the number 1 car. Schumacher wins titles with the number 2 car. End of case.
@@toronto543ontario6 Are you a moron, 1994/1995 benneton was the second best on the grid. Almost won the 1997 championship with a 3rd rate Ferrari, 2nd best car in 1998 and 2000, almost won in 1998 and won in 2000. Sit down.
@@wingzero2348 Benetton was a championship winning car at equal par not second...... Schumacher also crushed Damon Hill in 94 to win the championship , ...2008 McLaren was equal to Ferrari of massa and Kimi but Hamilton won... only his second year in F1....2018 Ferrari had the better car but Hamilton came from behind to win as he did in 2017 too...
Lewis must have been so frustrated haha, textbook blocking by Schumacher. This is great cheers for uploading ;)
Arvy 92 I don’t think he was
We'll have to ask him next time...
Textbook defending idk about blocking
Hamilton wouldn’t be a 6 time world champion if schumacher and brawn never developed what mercedes it is now
What did they develop? The V6 or V8 you fucking muppet. So Hamilton hasn't been developing his cars after 10 years with different regulations. You pathetic moron
Impossible not to recall the clash of talent generations like Schumacher himself vs Senna back in the 90’s... Lauda vs Piquet, Prost (early 80’s)...old Jack Brabham vs Stewart, Clark and Surtees in the late 60's.
Or even Emmo Fittipaldi fantastic battles against Mansell in the CART series golden age in the early 90's as well.
Schumacher healthy at 28 years old on the mercedes 2019 byby Hamilton
liliana campos , Hamilton destroys him
@@riadh1708 wow you seem hurt 🤣. Watch Hamilton set the record lol
Comparing against tough rivals
Michael schumacher vs aryton senna
Michael schumacher vs damon hill
Michael schumacher vs mika hakkenen
Michael schumacher vs rubens barichello
Michael schumacher vs villenuve
Michael schumacher vs juan pablo montoya
Michael schumacher vs alonso (Age)
Michael schumacher vs a young rosberg
comparing lewis it was only alonso who could fit his caliber all these years
A fast mercedes has made life easy for lewis
Schumi is greatest driver of all time💪🏼
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Hamilton vs alonso
Hamilton vs raikkonen
Hamilton vs massa
Hamilton vs button
Hamilton vs kubica
Hamilton vs vettel
Hamilton vs Rosberg
And now also
Hamilton vs verstappen
Hamilton vs leclerc
What is your point?
absolutely crazy trail braking for defending your position, and normally the rule is to insert slow > fast exit, but they're fucking crazy... enter as fast as they exit the turns. Tho, I see only 2 overtakes in how much laps? No way you could fool around such a legend like him.
5:05 drs opened kers activated, lewis still can't pass, he had a very low rev limiter that day, and he still managed to pass in the end
what was the rev limiter? the maximum of rpm?
@@fabioviana6095 yes
@Eduardo Palumbo schumacher wasn't limited at 331, with drs and slipstream maybe 345
@Eduardo Palumbo this is formula 1 2011 shitty cars with a lot of downforce but cringe top speeds
shumi learned this leason 9 yr ago driving with Senna
Absolutely amazing battle
Is it just me or Lewis's car seem to have quite a lot less power then Michael's car?
yes it had a rev limiter so his car could not match schumis car in straight line even with DRS
Michael didn't even need to use DRS moreso did he have a faster car. Still, he held back Lewis until he was told by Ross Braun to "back down" and give way to Hamilton.
Where the fcuk you get that story from you damned liar.
Lewis clearly the faster car. As they say. Catching is one thing , but passing is another.
Mercades was faster in this race.
Mate do you not see the kind of straight line speed that Merc engine had. The second he didn’t have slip stream he was already losing time, not to mention their racing at the most power based track on the calendar.