BBC Proms 2010 Bach Day 11 - Passacaglia and fugue bwv 582
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2010
- Powerful performance of Bach's great Passacaglia and fugue in c minor bwv 582 orchestrated by Respighi and performed by the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Andrew Litton on 14th august 2010 at the Royal Albert Hall.
- เพลง
![[Notre-Dame] Passacaglia and Fugue in C minor](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/TN7xYP2i0Bs/mqdefault.jpg)
Was there. There is nothing to compare this nights music. It was sublime and the organ was so powerful the hall trembled. We thought the walls were going to crumble. We didnt expect the start to be so resonating. The guest next to me was a gentle woman, but gasped and whispered to herself "Oh God".
Bach is an eternal master
He is THE eternal master
THIS IS THE GREATEST PIECE IVE EVER HEARD SUPREMELY POWERFUL, MY NUMBER ONE FAVORITE!!!
A while ago I, under a different user name, stated that I believed this piece should end on a minor chord instead of the Pickardy-third Major chord it does end on. After spending another 10 VERY CLOSE months with this piece, I couldn't think of any better way to end it than how Bach did. Of course. Bach is the master. And you don't disagree with Bach. He knew what he was doing. I retract my previous statement. A minor chord ending would simply not do.
I was there in the RAH for this concert. Dragged there kicking and screaming as a Bach purist and complaining bitterly that I didn't want to go. I had been to the lunchtime performances of the 6 Brandenburg's and was persuaded to attended the RPO concert of the arrangements of the masters music. I was won over to the arrangements bar two. The two "21st Century" arrangements that I suppose "had" to be made, so that some money would be distributed. Instantly forgettable, wildly applauded for the sake of applause I suspect.
The Passacaglia and Fugue however blew my mind. The tonality of the variations and delicacy of the orchestrations won me over. When Respighi threw in the timpani in the penultimate variation of the passacaglia my heart thumped hard. The orchestra, especially thew winds and brass that night were superb and deserved all the applause they received.
Andrew Litton is not a name I had come across before the concert and sadly I have found it difficult to find other concerts he has directed from the podium that equals that night.
I have a recording of the full concert from the BBC and I do watch and listen to it often. It brings back many memories, especially thanking my friends for persuading me to come to the Prom concert that night. I was prepared to be the stubborn mule but was won over by the professionalism of the orchestra.
I am so happy to see this part of the concert on TH-cam. I hope many others will get as much pleasure as I have got over the the last decade. :)
Bach himself arranged his own music. He transformed a humble partita for solo violin to a decadent Cantata opening with full orchestra with winds and metals (same piece BWV 1006.2 -- BWV 29 ). So, I am convinced he would have been MORE THAN TRHILLED to hear any of his works with modern instruments. But I get what you mean by being a purist, he composed his music at a time most instruments were underdeveloped so by being a purist you get the most sense of how it would had sounded to him and his audiences. Yet, it is always great to hear his works with modern instruments and modern orchestration techniques.
I came to bach via the Stokowski transcriptions and have evolved into enjoying the likes of Desprez and Hildegard von Bingen, even, completely divorced from modern polyphony. I will agree, however, that Litton is a dark horse. I saw/heard him perform Prokofiev's 7th once upon a time in Melbourne, after a Tchaikovsky concerto with a starrier soloist. Anecdotal evidence suggested Litton stole the evening with the symphony. The man has a chameleonlike way with a score. You can find a few warhorses with him and the Bergen Phil on BIS Records.
There isn't any Bach organ works transcription that is as close to Bach's original work on an emotional level, that I've heard of. Maybe the Prelude of BWV 546? Organist myself here and I can understand that audiences nowadays find organ music more dificult to understand, especially the emotional scope of it. I appreciate what Stokowski did to bring Bach back to the masses, but they never stay true to the emotionial scope of what Bach wrote. This arrangement fits the bill perfectly for a late romantic interpretation of Bach, which is how I like my Bach. This stays true to the emotional scope of BWV 582.
Just woah. Wished I was in the RAH back in 2010
Certainly one of the finest orchestral performances I've ever heard of this challenging Bach piece! Well done, Maestro Litton!
bach should be orchestrated more often
Yes!
Simply brilliant orchestration and performance of this organ work.
Bach's composition shows with a new modern light.
No longer relegated to large cathedrals, but performed by an orchestra with expert skill.
I was stunned by how well they express the majesty.
There is bombast from the bass instruments in honoring the piece.
Both the orchestration and the fine performance make Bach continue to be a musical presence today.
Bach puts in the most elaborate use of the Picardy third I've ever heard and this transcription accentuates even that.
Bach's great masterwork for organ shines out in its full glory here. Magnificent.
I would love to be there... But, the only thing I would love more than this is to be before Bach himself. Nothing says more about him than the fact that even the greatest of composers recognize him as their father and teacher.
On the day this performance took place, the music moved the audience so greatly that they immediately got it on. The population of Britain increased by 10%.
Wow. I can't imagine being there in person. This is one of my favorite pieces, and the finale in this particularly jaw dropping
actually I can't believe my life without listening to Bach Music 🎶 it's amazing peace ✌ of the genius Bach also I am every day hearing bach music 🎶
Amazing peace... and amazing piece.:) :) :)
I don't know why actually I react to that misstyping... This is not a syntax error. You just made a perfect joke :)
Imagine a big city with every building's roof equiped with big speakers.And at the same time all of them play this work.When the finale comes...every man alive kneeled and crying from this sublime emotional earthquake.
Mainstream music of today is all about money and image, the music is atrocious. This music on the other hand is all about art, contrast, feeling, and an extension of the human soul. This will never die.
I was there that night, such a moving experience, hearing it here brings no bearing to feeling it in person.
I have just caught this Channel, this is singularly the greatest organ piece Bach ever wrote and this performance is absolutely superb.. I used to play it on the organ myself and every time I hear it my eyes full with tears. So powerful and yet so gentle, so simple and yet so complex a true masterpiece. and it all started with a 4 bar theme that Bach built on and created an awesome 8 bar thread. A wonderful performance and yes my eyes are wet. I love to see Bach's organs works orchestrated. Bach was a true genius.
I can only say, me too. It has taken me more than 50 years to understand, and know, that this work played on the organ is the most majestic, awesome and utterly sublime composition ever. I understand (have read elsewhere), that Bach composed this when he was 22.....WHAT! As you say a true genius. That gradual build up, sensual mid section and building again to that shattering Crescendo...... shdders and yes at times, eye watering.
One of my favorites! Thank you for putting in a tuba! GOD bless the Royal Philharmonic and Andrew Litton in the name of Jesus! *Stirring performance! Love the end!* 😁😍
That fucking stretto, before the fugue, is my life right now.
Love the conductor's face at the end!
Bach - A real Genius !!!
I love how subjective music is... even though some don't feel the critical emotional response in this performance required to be beyond any bad words, this performance had such resonance with me, and I've heard many versions of the piece, both organ and transcribed for orchestra. I think as it is with anything you spend a life doing, listening to music builds to a maturity in all of us, like a companion who can charm and inspire you, convince you with their passion, and utterly blow your mind. Bach is a friend with whom I can sit and listen, and when he makes his final point, I sit up in my chair, turn to face him, and stare unbelieving of what total sense he's made.
Of course, it is subjective... the person who has listened to their friends will listen to Bach and shrug, or listen to this orchestra after having lived with their orchestras or organs, and shrug. We can't forget that music needs to spring forth in ALL directions, in ALL times, and reach out to those who have already lived lives apart from any current music's ability to make more meaningful.
+pon33villin This is just my opinion, but I believe this song to be one of the best ever written in all of history. I know it sounds ridiculous but this song has an effect on me that no other song has. The pacing is incredible. Couple that with how heavy this song feels and the sheer emotion this song conveys, it blows me away every single time I listen. If I was in the audience when this ways being played, I'd be in tears from the intensity and beauty.
Matt M Yeah, I definitely know how you feel... but music always moves forward--there's no way Bach could have orchestrated his piece like this while living in his own time, without knowledge of this type of orchestra or modern instruments. And the colors in this are almost as brilliant as the structure itself... keep searching for music that speaks to you! It doesn't have to diminish this one bit--people have many facets and are complex, and one piece of music can occupy one part of you while others still have room. This one definitely occupies a deep, brooding place in me that searches for a light.
im loving lower brass right now!
Bach deserves such a creative performance! what a creative sumptuousness!!
Absolute PERFECTION!!! We are so lucky this was captured on film because it most likely could never happen again! !!!WOW!!!
The most beautiful and perfect piece of music ever written.
Monumental.. composer , music , performance....
幕総が全国大会でこの曲やってて凄かったから聞きたくなった笑
Excellent work. Thank you 😇
Absolutely beautiful
One of Bach's best.
it's the first time now that I hear this version of bwv 582.
Truly exceptional!
Congratulations.
Great orchestral transcription of Bach's organ masterpiece!
Was für eine Interpretation, von Genuss und Musikqualität. Ihr seit mega. Bach persönlich hätte sich gefreut und euch zu dieser Meisterleißtung gratuliert. Ich finde die Bläser am besten, Danke und Amen
It's just beautiful
Favourited, featured and thanked the friend who introduced it to me
@contrerados Stokowski premiered his orchestration of Passacaglia & Fugue on 10 Feb 1922. Ottorino Respighi's version was written 8 years after the Stokowski version. OTHERS WHO HAVE ORCHESTRATED PASSACAGLIA IN C MINOR BWV582 ARE : RENE LEIBOWITZ, HERMAN BOESSENROTH, FRANCIS G. SANDERS, ALEXANDER GOEDICKE, HEINRICH ESSER, SIR ANDREW DAVIS, EUGENE ORMANDY.....
Herman Boessenroth arrangement was premiered on April 12 1935 by Eugen Ormandy and the Minneapolis Symphony Orchestra.
Bravo ! Bravo ! Bravo, Maestro !
Excellent version. I still keep going back to Toscanini but I shall also keep coming back to this.
An eternal monument for the music.
Wonderful! Bach would be proud!
1) J.S. Bach's Passacaglia and Fugue in C Minor is generally considered the greatest organ work ever composed but as you can hear, it also communicates quite well transcribed for symphony orchestra.
2) Although the setting is London's magnificent Royal Albert Hall, I'd also welcome a listen among the Pines and Fountains of Rome.
3) Since there are so many similarities in sound and effect to the Finale of Brahms' Fourth Symphony in E Minor, I'm wondering whether: (A) Johann's BWV 582 inspired Johannes' Op. 98, (B) the inspiration for Resphighi's orchestration of Bach's Passcaglia came after he heard Brahms' Passacaglia, or (C) did Brahms and Respighi simply pass by that cog in the road with glee?
Telegram from Toscanini to Respighi after the first public performance; "Bravo Respighi!" quite rightly so.
Toscanini fut bien moins clément avec Stokowski ! (en bref :"bon pour l'asile !"). Partialité ?
Masterpiece
Gorgeous. Absolutely gorgeous.
I've already listened many times.
Bach is like a turbulent river of music
Einfach nur großartig! Absolut umwerfend. Wenn sich auf meinem Arm eine Gänsehaut zeigt, dann ist die vorgetragene Musik immer "Erstklassig"
Danke für diese Musik und solch ein Orchester!
Thi is the pinnacle of music.
Simply astonishing
I have to play it every so often to amend the music in my head already playing
For me it's rare that an orchestration is better than the original, but this is one.
¡¡MAGNIFICO!!
the serene section from 4:55 is beautiful...it makes the climax at 5:38 incredibly powerful
Mind blowing power at the climax
Commenters give some respect to Respighi! Genius of orchestration! He could paint every color of the rainbow with the orchestra! He gives the organ such profound sacred yet sensual texture. Every serious composer for symphony orchestra needs to study this music!
Merci !
Grandissimo Genio della mia meravigliosa città!!! Bologna!!!!!
Respighi dirige magistralmente a una de las grandes orquestas, con un un gusto y delicadeza admirables. ¡Bravo! ¡Bravo!
Awsome! ❤
Bellissimo.
That´s what you play when you are in a grumpy mood, preferably in a giant organ in your castle in the mountains
Or Captain Nemo, perhaps.
All of music begins and ends up with Bach
Holy shit those tears. Didn't mean to let them go...
que peça maravilhosa, que música envolvente que se fecha em si mesma para depois explodir em crescendo! Bach makes us stop and think, invites us to follow him and we happily agree because the way is absolutely perfect
Sim. Maravilhosa. Forte Poderosa Generosa e Sutil
Desperta imensa gratidão 😂😊
❤Commovente , e sentimentale
Прекрасное исполнение. СУПЕР 👍 КЛАССИКА ВСЕГДА В МОДЕ!
Андрей Ефимов. Харьков. Украина. Канал традиций эстрадной музыки.
Хотілося б запитати коли в Харкові та інших містах України, які так близько до "рускага міра" почнуть розмовляти українською мовою, а не мою рашистів, які забрали життя в десятків тисяч українців.
@@isd6497 Головне перемогти ворога!
А мова йде за перемогою. Все буде Україна!
A melhor versão de Passacaglia e fuga que já ouvi, versão melhor até que a do mestre Stokowski, Litton foi ousado e inovador, deixando esta música de uma forma nunca tocada. Adoro Bach e esta música, em qualquer versão, está no topo da lista.
Oh, wow. WOW!!!
le trascrizioni bachiane di Respighi sono senza dubbio tra le piu' riuscite. due grandi compositori a confronto. Stokowsky a confronto di Respighi era un dilettante.
Desde que la he descubierto, no dejo de escucharla. Es impresionante.
wow symphonic romantic bach
I fucking love this version of BWV 582, brilliant adaption from Stokowski
Ok, my turn to commit. I’m an organist and have performed this many times. I think this orchestrated transcription is quite good and especially am pleased that it was taken at a good pace. So often it’s taken way too slow. The only thing I missed was the lack of a cadenza between the Neapolitan 6th and dominate at the end of the fugue…
I completely agree with you. Goedicke, who orchestrated it, himself recorded one of the most powerful and thoughtful renditions of BWV 582. In fact, it is the slowest one so far, but every subtle metamotphosis of semiquavers is distinctly heard.
There is a recording by Goedicke on my channel, but it is has all traits of bad LPs... I have already purchased a fine LP to transfer Goedicke playing this Passacaglia and Fugue to lossless... Wait for it!
P.S. Forsooth, Romantic renditions of Bach suck.
My humble opinion about this piece is that it symbolises the resurrection of Christ. Knowing that Bach always composed so many religious music and the meaning of Passacaglia which means Passage No music touches me as much as this one for the event of the Resurrection. As a matter of fact, Zeffirelli, in his film, Jesus of Nazareth, is using the first notes of this composition, a little modified, for the scene of the pharisees entering the empty tomb of Jesus marking the moment of the resurrection. I do not believe in exclusivity. I love all religions. I am just expressing my appreciation of the magnificence of Bach's music.
Bella, muy bella música. Me gusta más esta transcrición de O. Respigui que la realizada por L. Stokowski. Esta es más magestuosa y potente por la inclusión de los metales. Maravillosa versión.
everyone who is complaining about the orchestra please...just shut up...i think this piece is beautifull AND i know it doesnt beat the organ. but dont go hating on this piece.i think they did a great job doing this.
Le génie de la musique de Bach est tel qu'elle contient en germe des possibilités de développement et d'interprétation telles que celle-ci, au point que l'on peut parler d'une véritable recréation, sublimée par un orchestre et un chef en tout point remarquable. Je pense que Bach lui-même aurait été émerveillé par la luminosité et la musicalité que cet ensemble donne à la fugue, absolument superbe de bout en bout. Bravo et merci !
Deep...
Have you considered that Respighi is in fact a late-romantic composer? Yes it is a transcription but it meant to be played in romantic style. While there are a few spots that are "lacking" it is a very well done performance.
The audio is not synchonized with the video - about 1300 ms ahead.
OMG this transcription is SO much better than those of Weber or Schoenberg. Their versions sound like they were done by plumbers.
¿Qué le falta o le sobra a este vídeo para ser destacado? ¿Quién decide esa clasificación? Esta interpretación se lo merece de sobra.
Dios mio que bendicion..... gracias por compartir este video , como me habria gustado estar alli, alguien sabe si es posible conseguir esto en dvd o blue ray , gracias......muy buena version ......las trancripciones que hizo Stockoski son increibles ......y en este caso muy buena la interpretacion
En este caso la transcripción es de Ottorino Respighi
Juan María Gómez Márquez Ok, gracias ...tengo un cd si de Ottorino Respighi que sale BWV 582 si , y ademas lo pone en la descripcion del video ....que fallo....pero bueno tambien la tengo por Stockoski y de todas las versiones que he oido la que mas me gusta es la de Stockosvski.....especialmente una que sale en un cd de BBC Philarmonic , Matthias Bamert, y tambien la tengo dirigida por el mismo Stockoski en el 58 y otra antes , entre el 27 y y el 40 con peor sonido pero increible .....
No conocía esa versión. Sería interesdante comparar ambas orquestaciones y la obra original para órgano para sacar conclusiones. A mí esta transcripción de Respighi me gusta especialmente, el hombre dominaba la orquesta, y lo demuestra no sólo aquí sino en su propia música, que se escucha bastante menos de lo que merecería.
interesante... no "interesdante"
Yo creo que ahi en youtube la puedes buscar , son 2 cd de la BBC Philarmonic con Matthias Barmet como director , Stockovski Simphonic Bach Vol.1 y Vol.2
🙏
@leonsmello
I've heard this piece played in all its varieties, and being as it is a piece of power, the orchestra handles it better.
You could transcribe BWV 582 for tin cans and it would still stand.
True vibrations
@TheDirection69 You are really fortunate, indeed.
BTW: The composer Godowsky composed an absolutely incredible passacaglia and fugue for the piano, both to honor Bach, and Schubert the earlier composer of the theme. It's a piece rarely heard in concert, mainly because it's so monstrously difficult, only the technical titans can even play it! If you like Bach's Passacaglia and Fugue, you owe it to yourself to check this out!
th-cam.com/video/f0nlJXooIVc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Pnaq4lIr0vwvUXtV
@elopez4024 Or the whole Passacaglia, perhaps... Since the beginning, I can hear: "Let there be light...".
Yes! Me too! Always wanted to write something like that and be read onto the passacaglia...
My new favorite Bach piece! The CSO Brass performed this exquisitely! Is anybody else of the opinion that this should have ended on a minor chord instead of a major? I understand the time period and the purpose of Pickardy thirds, but still . . . the ending is so cataclysmic, I think that minor would be more fitting.
No. It is perfection.
I think the whole purpose of this arrangement is to play it with the full orchestra as almost all other versions are played with the church organ only (as is the original). There are a lot of organ versions of this but not so played with the full orchestra.
@leonsmello Agreed there. I think one of the very times a Bach transcription has surpassed one of Stokowski's.
Quem consegue dar dislike num vídeo desses???
4:49 guter triller!
Extraordinaria, bellísima interpretación. Música para Dios. ¡Tenía que ser Bach! Gracias, muchas gracias por este deleite de espiritualidad. Gracias.
is there a recording of this that i can buy?
Is it possible to buy a dvd of the entire performance?
Where did you get this footage? Is there a dvd around? I NEED IT IN MY LIFE
@jjuan54 Sí, Juan, estoy de acuerdo, sólo que es pertinente tener presente que J.S.Bach es "EL PADRE DE LA MÚSICA"