just waiting for a canon 17-55 f2.8 to be delivered, bought second hand and it's around 10 years old. After watching your review, I really hope it won't fall apart :D
I'm worried about buying full-frame lenses for APS-C. Sadly, there just isn't a good selection for Canon right now and I doubt that will change. The annoying thing with full-frame lenses is not only the price, weight and size but also simply that you loose image quality. Since not all the light hits the sensor you end up with a far less dense light bundle than you would with a proper APS-C lens. That coupled with the extra cost and such and... it just doesn't seem worth it. Of course, if you have no choice, you have no choice.
I already have this lens, my advice is: if you are going to use it in 50mm or 55mm, don't buy it. The 50mm f1.8 fixed lens is much better in image quality and diaphragm, without a doubt the sharpest lens I've used. But if you're going to use it in wide angle, consider buying the 17-55 f2.8.
Really great review, thank you! I just purchased a Canon EOS 90D and this lens came with the package so your video was perfect (and not too critical ;) )
Thanks for the review. I actually bought this lens recently and just assumed it was defective since it makes a ton of noise with the stabilization on. You're the first reviewer to even bring it up. Now gotta decide if I keep it or not. Either way, thanks for the overview.
Worth mentioning that the 17-55 is a lens for APSC where the sigma 18-35 is for full framed cameras so it wont be 18-35 but more like 28-56mm so not as wide and it is £350+, the canon 18-55 is about £200-250
I cant belive they charge $900 Dolars for a lense that cant stay in the Zoom range, whenever you look up or down. People really just said, sure, lets all buy that... This is why companies make crap and get away with it. Because most consumers conform way to easy. Other example is the DJI Om 3, 4, 5 and 6 are not really that stable. TH-camrs sware by it and cant stop saying how stable it is. It is not. They jitter and if you dont have a phone with really good EIS, you will notice. And no one tells you about it before spending $150 to $200 Dolars on those things. They will not tell you straight up either if you ask DJI. They will just give you a list of things to check and gast light the heck out of you. Really good review. I have the Sigma 17 to 50 2.8 Doesnt zoom creep, its cheaper and almost as sharp. The only down side is that the color cast compared to this one is a bit greenish and doesnt handel flare as well as primes. Im not sure about how it would compare to this lense though.... No reviews that compare them mention it. Kind of frustrating.
Wonderful review thank you, will subscribe! What body did you use it on? I'm considering it for my R7 and wonder how it does with the 32.5 mp high resolution sensor
Own the 18-35 for about 3-4 years now, kinda missing that extra range for run&gun/documentary style video. Kinda sad there aren't many EF options. How's the manual focus throw like? Is it more than 90 degrees at least? I can't trust autofocus since I'm not using the latest and greatest Sony's, and I'm adapting glass to Fujifilm for video.
just picked this lens up for my canon sl2 for 300$ canadian! i did find the build quality isnt the best as mine does the same when you shake it and the stabilization motor is certainly noisy. but the image quality is very good! since my camera is an aps-c its more like a 27-88mm.
I damaged the AF in the basic Canon 18-55 lens, I wonder if it is worth buying the 18-55 again or maybe the 17-85 mainly due to the very similar price. I use a Canon 500D, please advise.
I have the sigma 17-50 2.8, its a good lens for the price, but yeah AF is pretty loud for video and sometimes i have the feeling i cant rely on it in terms of autofocus and you cant manually focus while AF is active. But when it hits the focus, its razer sharp
I recently bought canon 77d(apsc).. Im a hobbyist...Which is better sigma 18-35, sigma 17-50 or canon 17-55 ..my purpose is events and weddings(mostly indoor), travel, and portraits. photography is primary and video is secondary
I’d go for that canon 17-55 for photos! You’ll want that extra reach past 35mm and the canon lens is just built so much better than the sigma lens. Think you’ll love it!
Did you have to increase the autofocous noise so we can hear it or that's just how it sounds with a mic on top? I was thinking about selling my Sigma 17 50 2.8 and getting this lens instead to film handheld video with a shotgun mic on top, but that noise at 2:41 made me wonder if it's a good choice.
It’s waaayyyyyy quieter than the sigma lens. It’s not silent but it’s it’s not bad in my opinion. I didn’t increase the sound or anything but it was totally silent in the room. That’s just how it sounds when you’re listening carefully to it on top of the camera. I used it for over a year on every shoot. I think you’ll like it way more than the sigma.
Great video, thanks! That Sigma 18-35mm lens would be perfect if it would have image stabilization, which is definitely something I will need in my next lens since I don't own a gimbal 😊
Gimbals are cheaper than lenses these days! 😅 but you should totally check out this video I made using alternative stabilization techniques: th-cam.com/video/QNxPBmu84wY/w-d-xo.html
You could rig out the camera to be more heavy to avoid camera shake. It's more reliable and gives better results than OIS or IBIS. I've had many shots ruined by stabilization in lens/camera.
Canon EF-S 18-135mm STM f/3.5-5.6 Canon EF-S 50mm STM f/1.8 Canon EF 40mm STM f/2.8 Canon EF 24-105mm STM f/3.5-5.6 All of the STM lenses are church mouse quiet for video.
The very best would be the Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 art & Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8 USM L II. For the 90D the 24-70mm mkii is a must. It’s sharp at f/2.8 from 24 to 70mm - center & corners.
Just got this lens used for some video work! I noticed in your AF shots that it was pretty loud. Does this get picked up in most scenarios or just because you were forcing it to change so much? Also for top down shots, do you have any tips on how to get it to hold at that 35mm range? Or just have to hold the zoom yourself?
Ah dude you’ll love it for sure. There’s no way you’ll pick up very much AF noise. I had to literally put my mic up to the lens to get that noise. If you want to hold it at 35mm on a top down, a little masking tape or something will do the trick
Great video man! Two things that are making me doubt this lens for the Blackmagic Pocket 4k. Is the stabilization smooth when panning? Also is the stabilization annoyingly loud?
Thanks dude! The stabilization isn’t that loud. In the clip I showed it what you hear is the fan of my lights instead of the stabilizer. I should’ve fixed that... And if you’re looking for smooth panning on a tripod go for a fluid head tripod and you’ll be golden 👍
The main issue of sigma 17-50 is its very poor manual focus mechnism. Pretty bad for anyway wants to do video work. And now dslr lens is dead. Sigma 18-35 might be the best option in this focal range as for apsc dslr lens.
In EOS cameras from mid range to up theres a function called focus micro adjustment, it is necessary for many lenses especially those wich were designed before the camera where it is using was launched to market, it allows you move the sharpest focus area to certain deep, you can at adjust at 2.8. I have used it in other glasses i and difderence is huge
It’s a different lens mount so you would need this: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/883406-REG/Canon_6098b002_EF_M_Lens_Adapter_Kit.html/?ap=y&gclid=CjwKCAjww-CGBhALEiwAQzWxOplhWVaJHWngDUrqhDoG2SDOpFmEbSrZVWNe3xXjYaUapOde_bO_7hoCQpQQAvD_BwE&lsft=BI%3A514&smp=y
Super useful video here man, appreciate it! Nearly got the Sigma 17-50mm before realizing the autofocus noise would be too much trouble 😩 but now I’m having doubts about this one too, despite its well roundedness (and that awesome stabilization!!)
Idk what lenses you have experience with but, if you're coming from a kit lens then you'll totally love this one. The only standard zoom upgrade I could find better than this one was a 24-70 f2.8 for a full frame camera.
I was looking at buying this lens which costs $1200. As soon as you showed the build quality and how it is loose and slides like that, I watched no further and...HARD PASS!! Definitely NOT what you would expect from a lens that costs over $1000
@@RyanMichaelss I had a lens like that once, the Canon 18-200mm, I bought it used for $100. And it rattled like that when you shook it. Cheap piece of crap. As soon as I saw you do the same with that lens, it was a total turn off. I wouldn't even pay $100 for that lens, let alone $1200.
@@Life_Through_Galleriesyou mean WITH the lack of optical stabilization! And the Sigma 18-35mm doesn't need stabilization, since it has f/1.8, you can shoot with high shutter speeds. And with such a short focal length, only a newbie would really need IS! The Sigma is a FAR better lens!
Its is the best... I own the 16 to 35 2.8 ii on a full Frame and this smokes it in terms of build of image quality sharpness ...
the rattling is your IS mechanism man. not poor build quality
just waiting for a canon 17-55 f2.8 to be delivered, bought second hand and it's around 10 years old. After watching your review, I really hope it won't fall apart :D
Thank you for specifying the autofocus sounds!
I just bought one for 100 pre owned it’s working fine no rattle
This was the first lens I bought for my Canon 50d back in the day.
I'm worried about buying full-frame lenses for APS-C. Sadly, there just isn't a good selection for Canon right now and I doubt that will change. The annoying thing with full-frame lenses is not only the price, weight and size but also simply that you loose image quality. Since not all the light hits the sensor you end up with a far less dense light bundle than you would with a proper APS-C lens. That coupled with the extra cost and such and... it just doesn't seem worth it. Of course, if you have no choice, you have no choice.
You hit that right on the money :/ . I have a Canon t8i and i have a 50mm ,a 18-135mm and I was considering a 24-70mm
I already have this lens, my advice is: if you are going to use it in 50mm or 55mm, don't buy it. The 50mm f1.8 fixed lens is much better in image quality and diaphragm, without a doubt the sharpest lens I've used. But if you're going to use it in wide angle, consider buying the 17-55 f2.8.
Only thing it's for apsc 35mm 1.8 is better
Great information! One question, is the Image Stabilization mechanical or electronic? Thanks!
Really great review, thank you! I just purchased a Canon EOS 90D and this lens came with the package so your video was perfect (and not too critical ;) )
You’re so welcome! Haha have fun with your new setup!
How are you liking the 90D and this lens. I am looking at upgrading.
I managed to get this lens and a F-S 10-22mm USM w/ a gimbal for a steal of 300 dollars! so excited
Thanks for the review. I actually bought this lens recently and just assumed it was defective since it makes a ton of noise with the stabilization on. You're the first reviewer to even bring it up. Now gotta decide if I keep it or not. Either way, thanks for the overview.
I just bought an EC refurb for $400, I can't wait to get it! I decided to buy it used rather than the Sigma 17-50 2.8
Awesome review man! Helped me out a ton! Answered all the questions I had !
Dude, your videos are great. You should start uploading again! 👍
The Sigma 17-50mm f 2.8 (for Canon) sells new for $669.00 at B&H and $554.00 at Amazon
Worth mentioning that the 17-55 is a lens for APSC where the sigma 18-35 is for full framed cameras so it wont be 18-35 but more like 28-56mm so not as wide and it is £350+, the canon 18-55 is about £200-250
I have the 18-35 and it is not a full frame lens. I use it on canon 70D. Im here looking for video lens with more reach than the 35mm the sigma offers
I removed the protective rubber and used it on the Sony A6500. Excellent Lens!!!
Really great review! Concise, slickly edited, and covered all the key information I was after. Thanks!
I had the Sigma, had to give it back because the autofocus is garbage and it actually rattles 10x louder than the canon inside. WTF
Thanks for your video man. I was able to buy this baby for less than $200 used(very lucky) and can't wait to see how well it does!
I cant belive they charge $900 Dolars for a lense that cant stay in the Zoom range, whenever you look up or down. People really just said, sure, lets all buy that...
This is why companies make crap and get away with it. Because most consumers conform way to easy.
Other example is the DJI Om 3, 4, 5 and 6 are not really that stable. TH-camrs sware by it and cant stop saying how stable it is. It is not.
They jitter and if you dont have a phone with really good EIS, you will notice.
And no one tells you about it before spending $150 to $200 Dolars on those things.
They will not tell you straight up either if you ask DJI.
They will just give you a list of things to check and gast light the heck out of you.
Really good review. I have the Sigma 17 to 50 2.8
Doesnt zoom creep, its cheaper and almost as sharp.
The only down side is that the color cast compared to this one is a bit greenish and doesnt handel flare as well as primes.
Im not sure about how it would compare to this lense though.... No reviews that compare them mention it.
Kind of frustrating.
Great review of this lens!
great video, thank you. short and to the point while covering a lot of key points.
Wonderful review thank you, will subscribe! What body did you use it on? I'm considering it for my R7 and wonder how it does with the 32.5 mp high resolution sensor
Hi, kind of old but would you recommend this for sports photography in low light ( stadium flood lights)
Hi. please suggest which one should I buy for my kids and family videos, Canon 17-55mm or Sigma 17-50 ? Thanks 🤝
Great review. Thinking about this lens. Helped a lot! Thanks.
You’re welcome dude! ✌️
Some people say the Sigma Canon 18-35mm have some auto focus problems...
Brilliant Ryan!
Why nobodys talking about the zooming? :( Does the lens change the exposure while zooming?
No it doesn’t! It’s a constant 2.8 aperture so it doesn’t change
Own the 18-35 for about 3-4 years now, kinda missing that extra range for run&gun/documentary style video. Kinda sad there aren't many EF options.
How's the manual focus throw like? Is it more than 90 degrees at least? I can't trust autofocus since I'm not using the latest and greatest Sony's, and I'm adapting glass to Fujifilm for video.
just picked this lens up for my canon sl2 for 300$ canadian! i did find the build quality isnt the best as mine does the same when you shake it and the stabilization motor is certainly noisy. but the image quality is very good! since my camera is an aps-c its more like a 27-88mm.
For video would you recommend the sigma 17-50 if you use manual focus? or 18-35 for video purposes
can it do macro photography?? what is the difference with a 60mm 2.8 macro?? thanks for the video
Hey great video! How is the autofocus noise on this lens? Would it get picked up by a shotgun mic?
Does the Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 have the same features for night view as Canon 17-55mm f2.8
I damaged the AF in the basic Canon 18-55 lens, I wonder if it is worth buying the 18-55 again or maybe the 17-85 mainly due to the very similar price. I use a Canon 500D, please advise.
I got the 17-85. It’s a good all rounder. But lacks the needed Aperture blur which makes u consider the 17-55mm.
Great video, quick and to the point! Thank you!
You’re welcome!
Is the focus ring jerky when pulling focus manually?
Which is better between this and sigma 17-50 f2.8? I am confuse😁
This canon one is way better
@@RyanMichaelss is canon sharper?
I have the sigma 17-50 2.8, its a good lens for the price, but yeah AF is pretty loud for video and sometimes i have the feeling i cant rely on it in terms of autofocus and you cant manually focus while AF is active. But when it hits the focus, its razer sharp
Valuable info , Thanks buddy
I recently bought canon 77d(apsc).. Im a hobbyist...Which is better sigma 18-35, sigma 17-50 or canon 17-55 ..my purpose is events and weddings(mostly indoor), travel, and portraits. photography is primary and video is secondary
I’d go for that canon 17-55 for photos! You’ll want that extra reach past 35mm and the canon lens is just built so much better than the sigma lens. Think you’ll love it!
@@RyanMichaelss Thanks
Did you have to increase the autofocous noise so we can hear it or that's just how it sounds with a mic on top? I was thinking about selling my Sigma 17 50 2.8 and getting this lens instead to film handheld video with a shotgun mic on top, but that noise at 2:41 made me wonder if it's a good choice.
It’s waaayyyyyy quieter than the sigma lens. It’s not silent but it’s it’s not bad in my opinion. I didn’t increase the sound or anything but it was totally silent in the room. That’s just how it sounds when you’re listening carefully to it on top of the camera.
I used it for over a year on every shoot. I think you’ll like it way more than the sigma.
Great video, thanks! That Sigma 18-35mm lens would be perfect if it would have image stabilization, which is definitely something I will need in my next lens since I don't own a gimbal 😊
Gimbals are cheaper than lenses these days! 😅 but you should totally check out this video I made using alternative stabilization techniques: th-cam.com/video/QNxPBmu84wY/w-d-xo.html
You could rig out the camera to be more heavy to avoid camera shake. It's more reliable and gives better results than OIS or IBIS. I've had many shots ruined by stabilization in lens/camera.
is it a full time manual focus?
Why is that photography youtubers keep treating their equipment like trash, and then complain about the build quality?
anyone experience with focus ring noise? bought a second hand one and it has this weird sound once you start turning the focus ring
I need a good lens for 90D making videos, what’s your recommendation I don’t want to hear any AF noise
Canon EF-S 18-135mm STM f/3.5-5.6
Canon EF-S 50mm STM f/1.8
Canon EF 40mm STM f/2.8
Canon EF 24-105mm STM f/3.5-5.6
All of the STM lenses are church mouse quiet for video.
The very best would be the Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 art & Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8 USM L II. For the 90D the 24-70mm mkii is a must. It’s sharp at f/2.8 from 24 to 70mm - center & corners.
Very helpful. Thanks!
You’re welcome!
Just got this lens used for some video work! I noticed in your AF shots that it was pretty loud. Does this get picked up in most scenarios or just because you were forcing it to change so much? Also for top down shots, do you have any tips on how to get it to hold at that 35mm range? Or just have to hold the zoom yourself?
Ah dude you’ll love it for sure. There’s no way you’ll pick up very much AF noise. I had to literally put my mic up to the lens to get that noise.
If you want to hold it at 35mm on a top down, a little masking tape or something will do the trick
I want ask, how about compare tracking focus to ef-s 18-55mm is stm, how much the different?
Great video man! Two things that are making me doubt this lens for the Blackmagic Pocket 4k. Is the stabilization smooth when panning? Also is the stabilization annoyingly loud?
Thanks dude! The stabilization isn’t that loud. In the clip I showed it what you hear is the fan of my lights instead of the stabilizer. I should’ve fixed that... And if you’re looking for smooth panning on a tripod go for a fluid head tripod and you’ll be golden 👍
@@RyanMichaelss thanks man!
What's good man! Dig your videos. New sub here. Keep posting videos!!
Right on dude thanks so much!
would be any crop with the canon r6?
No
Can this lens be used on viltrox adaptor ef to rf r2(adaptor name) for for my canon r10?
Don't like the color of this lens but it's a good lens.
Can I use this lens for youtube ( film myself in my TH-cam studio) ?
Yes of course
The Sigma is way harder for handheld. If it had ois it would be an absolute weapon.
Totally agree dude!
the best video i ever seen of these lens, thanks so much 🔥
Can you do a review tamron 18-400 lens
Awesome video mate! We’ll explain I will look for the 18-35mm 1.8 by sigma. Cheers
Right on glad to help out Dan!
The main issue of sigma 17-50 is its very poor manual focus mechnism. Pretty bad for anyway wants to do video work. And now dslr lens is dead. Sigma 18-35 might be the best option in this focal range as for apsc dslr lens.
Does your image start jittering when the image stabilization is on?
Nope it gets more stable
Hi, did you set focus microadjust in order to to use it above 3.2?
Sorry I don’t know what you’re talking about. What’s the setting you’re talking about?
In EOS cameras from mid range to up theres a function called focus micro adjustment, it is necessary for many lenses especially those wich were designed before the camera where it is using was launched to market, it allows you move the sharpest focus area to certain deep, you can at adjust at 2.8. I have used it in other glasses i and difderence is huge
@@chiscogti oh cool! I had no idea that was a thing
Is it compatible with cannon m6 markii
It’s a different lens mount so you would need this: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/883406-REG/Canon_6098b002_EF_M_Lens_Adapter_Kit.html/?ap=y&gclid=CjwKCAjww-CGBhALEiwAQzWxOplhWVaJHWngDUrqhDoG2SDOpFmEbSrZVWNe3xXjYaUapOde_bO_7hoCQpQQAvD_BwE&lsft=BI%3A514&smp=y
Is this a hard stop lens?
No the focus ring keeps moving
so the sigma 18-35 is bad ass huh well i want to buy that along with the 24-70 lens
great review man but its not all time greatest EFS lens that place goes the 18-35 f1.8 SIGMA
those autofocus sounds are like a hungry tummy, lol
Super useful video here man, appreciate it! Nearly got the Sigma 17-50mm before realizing the autofocus noise would be too much trouble 😩 but now I’m having doubts about this one too, despite its well roundedness (and that awesome stabilization!!)
Idk what lenses you have experience with but, if you're coming from a kit lens then you'll totally love this one. The only standard zoom upgrade I could find better than this one was a 24-70 f2.8 for a full frame camera.
I was looking at the Tamron 18-50 but went with the Canon 17-55 at $879.
Right on I think you’ll dig it!
Nice video
I was looking at buying this lens which costs $1200. As soon as you showed the build quality and how it is loose and slides like that, I watched no further and...HARD PASS!! Definitely NOT what you would expect from a lens that costs over $1000
Welp glad I could show you and help out then!
@@RyanMichaelss I had a lens like that once, the Canon 18-200mm, I bought it used for $100. And it rattled like that when you shook it. Cheap piece of crap. As soon as I saw you do the same with that lens, it was a total turn off. I wouldn't even pay $100 for that lens, let alone $1200.
@Stephen L incorrect! This lens is a piece of shit and NOT worth $1200. The Sigma is far better. Case closed.
@@-WhizzBang- even without the lack of optical stability?
@@Life_Through_Galleriesyou mean WITH the lack of optical stabilization! And the Sigma 18-35mm doesn't need stabilization, since it has f/1.8, you can shoot with high shutter speeds. And with such a short focal length, only a newbie would really need IS! The Sigma is a FAR better lens!
You obviously have never used Zeiss lenses.
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