It's Topical | Locals & foreign nationals face off on immigration debate

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
  • On this episode of It’s Topical, we throw the spotlight on immigration. As South Africa's Government of National Unity marks 100 days, has there been any progress or regression in the immigration issue?
    To unpack this question we are joined by Sihle Lonzi from the EFF, Funzi Ngobeni from ActionSA and the Immigration law Expert, Ashraf Essop. People from various backgrounds, both locals and foreign nationals, voice their concerns about immigration.
    For more news, visit sabcnews.com and #SABCNews on all Social Media platforms.

ความคิดเห็น • 180

  • @samkelokey4656
    @samkelokey4656 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +19

    We are tired. We need tougher laws. We don't have another home as South Africans. We have to fight for our Country

  • @jamespick5199
    @jamespick5199 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

    They open scrap metal companies in Rosettenville residential area, Rosettenville was a beautiful are , check how they mess it up

    • @kevinc3236
      @kevinc3236 29 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      Rosettenvile was my hang out spot back in the day. Now it's a drug den full of nigerians.

  • @dudumatlala6227
    @dudumatlala6227 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    Abahambe, even Doctors, who took an oath to save lives are involved in these criminal activities. One Nigerian Doctor was arrested in Jhb, so howvdo we trust them?

  • @khanyaiq1465
    @khanyaiq1465 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    Nothing is more disrespectful than being told by foreigners what to focus on and to blame our government while they failed to confront their own governments and decided to be a burden here

  • @LuckyKgasu
    @LuckyKgasu ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    Every one must fix his problem

  • @jam-fam
    @jam-fam 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +34

    Zimbabweans like to make demands on other nations. It's the people of Zimbaweas jobs to fix their OWN government.

    • @welldonerufu4865
      @welldonerufu4865 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Don't forget ANC is eating with zim government that was rejected in 2023 elections...Your president was the first to congratulate....be realistic

    • @joliekalubi4748
      @joliekalubi4748 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      Why only Zimbabwe? Or black? There is many white foreigner here even your police are afraid to search

    • @joliekalubi4748
      @joliekalubi4748 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is just to promote xenophobia

    • @SandiswaMankayi
      @SandiswaMankayi ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@joliekalubi4748don't count white foreigners is a most are open job opportunitys

    • @Nick-hu6nu
      @Nick-hu6nu ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@joliekalubi4748Tell them. They are not anti foreigner they are anti black
      Go after business owners then Zimbabwe and others it doesn't slove anything

  • @Coco-kw3iv
    @Coco-kw3iv ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +13

    South Africans do yousee that this constitution is not designed to protect us in anyway? Niyakubonayni lokho???

  • @fanamlawuli6761
    @fanamlawuli6761 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    What debate? They must go home!

    • @Missk1516
      @Missk1516 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 they cant debate in their failing governments they come and debate here.

    • @Wethruyk
      @Wethruyk ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Exactly. We are not going to be in negotiations with them regarding criminality and our country.

    • @dudumzuke6488
      @dudumzuke6488 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      They have more rights than us

  • @raymondzhou1804
    @raymondzhou1804 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    My question for dudula what are they doing in training the communities when remove the foreigners, what plans do they have isn't of having fighting mentality without building communities

    • @Trenchwarsoldier-x5v
      @Trenchwarsoldier-x5v 58 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      We as South Africans cannot even begin to build communities while Africans are here… they are not citizens and taxes cannot pay for them! It’s obvious… when Africans go homes the prices of housing immediately becomes affordable as then it’s not 10 people wanting a home it’s 2 and easy to fix!

  • @Lily-ed2sc
    @Lily-ed2sc ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

    I have never seen people who are fighting tooth and nail to remain in a xenophobic country lol

    • @Trenchwarsoldier-x5v
      @Trenchwarsoldier-x5v ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Patriotic not xenophobic! You say the same to us white people calling us racist, yet citizens are mostly united on many issues like Africans not being here! It cannot be both people are wrong and you are right! It’s really you are not our problem, fix your country because we fixing ours!

  • @jam-fam
    @jam-fam 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    They keep their heads down in their own country, then demand human rights when they get caught committing crimes. They skip many countries, then demand asylum in South Africa.

    • @kevinc3236
      @kevinc3236 27 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      and then they destroy SA like they destroyed their countries

  • @leratomoshesh7409
    @leratomoshesh7409 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    Say that again mama. Home affairs official are the ones destroying our country.

    • @ncami7319
      @ncami7319 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly. Mama is telling the truth

  • @NdabukoMlungisiNgobeni-cc3ol
    @NdabukoMlungisiNgobeni-cc3ol 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Okuzaziyo ukuthi kuyi goduga aku goduke kubuyela kuvela khona skhathele siwu Mzansi 😢

    • @samkelokey4656
      @samkelokey4656 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@NdabukoMlungisiNgobeni-cc3ol sidiniwe. Sizode sithathe umthetho ezandleni mf2

  • @musandasikhwivhilu
    @musandasikhwivhilu 46 นาทีที่ผ่านมา +3

    What is stopping African countries who gained independence in the sixties to progress both politically and economically?

  • @MbongeniNdlovu-n8v
    @MbongeniNdlovu-n8v 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Wena ewekapisi lamasosha uyazi yini ukuthi lelizwe ngelamakhosi anjengo Senzangakhona uDingane uShaka uMzilikazi namanye engingawaqambanga akulona izwe labopresident leli nepolitiki uyabonakala unenhliziyo embi uyabonakala

    • @nkululekongwenya7859
      @nkululekongwenya7859 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Aw elamazulu kanti nawe unenhliziyo embi mawusho njalo ngoba ucabangela amazulu what about other tribes that you don't mention......lelizwe elika n Jehova nakho konke okukulo

    • @Coco-kw3iv
      @Coco-kw3iv 14 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      @@nkululekongwenya7859 uJehova ulinikezele emakhosini as custodians... Of course elakaJehove kodwa unike amaKhosi kube yiwo alawulayo. So please siyacela izindaba zamaSouth Africans ezethu. Thina asizingeni ezaseZimbabwe. Kuyaxaka ngendlela nigaxela ngakhona ezindabeni zethu. Amakhosi are landlords in South Africa... Full Stop!

  • @mixedtraveler3585
    @mixedtraveler3585 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Where is the PATRIOTIC ALLIANCE representative.i wish we had them on this segment.

  • @HelenJooste-i8i
    @HelenJooste-i8i ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Mr Scheiber why don't your people respond on invitations to account😂😂😂

  • @fanozikhumalo1435
    @fanozikhumalo1435 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    To be honest our government failed us isithengisile singama south African ngoba I don't think ukuthi ayikuboni lokhu futhi I don't think ukuthi ayizizwa izikhalo zama south African, sekufuneka sizibambele mathupha manje

  • @FREEDOCUMENTARY-AFRICATO-ir2kp
    @FREEDOCUMENTARY-AFRICATO-ir2kp ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    LAW EXPERT WHO IS ALSO A FOREINER , HE DOES NOT HAVE SOUTH AFRICA INTEREST AT HEART, HIS HEART IS IN INDIA

  • @georgethabethe4265
    @georgethabethe4265 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Abaye ekhaya bayolungisa khona

    • @GoforiGugu
      @GoforiGugu ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      😂abafuni

    • @samkelokey4656
      @samkelokey4656 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@georgethabethe4265 sizohambisa ngenkani

  • @christopherbastiaan492
    @christopherbastiaan492 33 นาทีที่ผ่านมา +1

    The GNU must do something before we the citizens do. This time it could be worse than 2008. The people are fed up. Amantla Awethu. Abahambe!

  • @Proudly_South_African
    @Proudly_South_African ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    ABAHAMBE!!

  • @Majozilukhozi
    @Majozilukhozi ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    As south Africans we don't share SA with anyone.. we also don't care about their problems in their own countries we have our own problems as south Africans. EFF problem is Malema

  • @juliasindale9467
    @juliasindale9467 37 นาทีที่ผ่านมา +1

    The main problem they don't respect our South African laws wena okhuluma ngo America when you go there there is law and you respect is only South Africa where the laws are not respected even in their country's they respect their law's other problem is Home Affairs, department of Labor, Police officers they don't do their job to make our country to be respectful and borders and law reactriction must be abide in businesses and we are prisoners in our country we can't move freely lento eyenzakalayo.angazi ibizwa ngokuthi yini kunini sikhala akuzwakali sesiyozwa ngani okay thanks

  • @jam-fam
    @jam-fam ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    We are awake now as South Africans, we will organize ourselves, and we change this constitution if we need to. The Constitutional court clearly did not make a decision that is in the best interest of South Africans.

  • @ishtiaqkarjikar
    @ishtiaqkarjikar 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Reality is south african labour's must improve reliability, honesty, productivity please SA citizen and politicians not saying single word?😢

    • @Trenchwarsoldier-x5v
      @Trenchwarsoldier-x5v ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Africa are not our problem, how must we help Africans when you don’t even go home? Must South Africans leave our homes to overthrow your homes,fix your farms, build your schools, build you homes while you play citizen in our country??? When has Africa ever told those Arabs to go back to Iran and Iraq… you didn’t just kick Bantus out you sold your own people as slaves and kicked whites out of Egypt!!! Then you even tell whites and colourds here we are settlers and must go back to Europe??? Africa for Africans is what you keep saying but do not recognise any of us or even apologise!!! Citizens are not going to change our minds! These politicians are about to be removed and our answer will be the same! We cannot even help currently because you are not even trying, you are running away from your mess and then bring your same communism here….

  • @ababibabzee7758
    @ababibabzee7758 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I dnt think if foreigners are a problems in SA. Things is that the government should wrk with boder issues. Corruption is everywhere.

    • @fanamlawuli6761
      @fanamlawuli6761 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@ababibabzee7758 go home

    • @Trenchwarsoldier-x5v
      @Trenchwarsoldier-x5v ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      They a problem! Who must build them homes? Schools? Feed them? Hospitals? Don’t be stupid man, it’s foreigners are the ones selling drugs! Look at Zimbabwe Botswana Tanzania Mozambique Namibia Angola Zambia and Kenya… not even 100 years ago it was Southern Africa and one country!!! You colonised all of that and now want what we have now? Africa must put this effort in Northern Africa ottomans and Nigeria who created this problem! It’s not only Europeans fault it’s because of African themselves

    • @Coco-kw3iv
      @Coco-kw3iv 5 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      Uyanyanyisa!!!

    • @Coco-kw3iv
      @Coco-kw3iv 4 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      So foreigners occupying jobs unlawfully are not a problem? Is that what you are saying?

  • @SabeloTaswell
    @SabeloTaswell ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    What about those who got ids illegally so.

  • @congointernationalnews1506
    @congointernationalnews1506 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Listening to the audience, especially to the Dudula's from words to their faces you see hatred based on no foundation. Foreign nationals have helped the SA citizens alot in terms of skills transfer. Ref: Workshop in Durban.
    Illegality of foreigners and crime has to fall on government officials but not to the victims.

  • @SollyShopKing
    @SollyShopKing 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Which one foreigner national Indian white black for example south Africa truck no pass Mozambique or Zambia Kenya tanzan please guy open mind

    • @Trenchwarsoldier-x5v
      @Trenchwarsoldier-x5v ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Ngunis!!!! These ones of SADC… Africans cannot keep running into our country all those countries 100 years ago was Southern Africa today Africa has colonised us again!!!! Go home

    • @kevinc3236
      @kevinc3236 16 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      And they add to those economies when those trucks enter. It's innyour best interest for those trucks to enter.

  • @juliasindale9467
    @juliasindale9467 26 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Hulumeni ngiyakucela lungisa izinkinga zezingane zethu kunini zikhala ngemisebenzi zakuvotela wazithembisa imisebenzi iphi leyo misebenzi kudlalwa ngezi ngane zethu sibafundise nzima labantwana sithintitha konke silala singadli ukuthi babe nekusasa eliqhakazile kodwa lutho ngmpela ayilungiswe lento please thanks

  • @Donell_B
    @Donell_B 34 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Apartheid has evolved, it wears many faces but only has a single character.

  • @ignited2aspire72
    @ignited2aspire72 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sheep shavers shortage😂😂😂

    • @Trenchwarsoldier-x5v
      @Trenchwarsoldier-x5v 56 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      😂 even I laughed at this! That is not even a skill, we’ve been doing that ourselves for hundreds of years 🥴

  • @laurencemakgabo1766
    @laurencemakgabo1766 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    But why are you only inviting foreigners?

  • @SabeloTaswell
    @SabeloTaswell 33 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Our parents fought for this country let them go fight for their generation to come to be proud of

  • @khosinimsebele7835
    @khosinimsebele7835 46 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Some of the foreigners on ZEP have left south Africa for better opportunity in other countries, some have passed on, but why the statistics remain the same?
    Also Home affairs is to blame for delaying to issue legal document.
    Immigration is political opportunity if you want to draw a crowd to follow you. The environment is so toxic.

    • @Coco-kw3iv
      @Coco-kw3iv 6 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      Delaying what documents? This is an entitlement we resent as South Africans. Who says the documents must come back allowing you to stay in SA?

  • @juliasindale9467
    @juliasindale9467 19 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Bomakhi akeniyolungisa ekhaya nisebenzile seni ryt ne gaan huise toe aseblief

  • @MildredNdlovu-v2y
    @MildredNdlovu-v2y 59 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Musuzulu said they is land if people want can go talk to the king he is more than welcome

    • @Coco-kw3iv
      @Coco-kw3iv 3 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      Please let them go Zulus are ready for them...

  • @tshumamike1848
    @tshumamike1848 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Your president is supporting the dictatorship in neighboring countries mbalula said chamisa was a parpet of whites but himself joined them so it's clear that he them here

    • @Coco-kw3iv
      @Coco-kw3iv ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      We don't care! Go sort it out! We have our own external forces influencing our politics. Do you see us being cry babies and flooding their countries? Tsek maarn

  • @thabangtladi8057
    @thabangtladi8057 46 นาทีที่ผ่านมา +2

    People who owns land in their own black owned countries but they want to come and fight poor black South Africans for their crumbs and telling them their are lazy mxm sis 🤮Even foreigners with critical skills, thwey number should also be limited. We dont want to partner with foreign spaza shops owners but we want all small business and low skilled jobs to be 100% strictly reserved for locals. SA soldiers are dying daily in Mozambique, DRC but Congolese , Mozambicans etc are all over SA fighting and demanding thinhgs they cand demand back home mmxm, this fake one Africa thing is rubbish

  • @welldonerufu4865
    @welldonerufu4865 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dont end ZEP

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      dont fight for staying in SA, go fix Zimbabwe

  • @Donell_B
    @Donell_B 37 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    To be free we must all be free, View Africa as a single entity.

    • @Coco-kw3iv
      @Coco-kw3iv 8 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      How are you going to be free when you don't work for that freedom in your countries? Instead fighting South Africans for fighting for their freedom. You are reversing everything South Africans fought for ...

  • @bonolomakgatadeluent3150
    @bonolomakgatadeluent3150 22 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Viva EFF

  • @allanwhittaker4700
    @allanwhittaker4700 20 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    They must GO

  • @leochako527
    @leochako527 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    The world is watching how black South Africa's don't want to see next door Zimbabwe's nothing else

    • @jam-fam
      @jam-fam ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Like the world sees Zimbabwean criminals in the News, kidnappers, Zama Zama terrorists, the world see Zimbabweans who do not like themselves, nothing else.

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      the world is watching and doing niothing to help Zimbabwe

    • @jam-fam
      @jam-fam ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@thabangtladi8057 the world is watching Zimbabweans doing nothing for themselves. Commiting crimes in neighboring countries... Zama Zamas, Hijackers, Kid nappers... demanding rights on other nations instead of standing up for themselves at home

    • @Lily-ed2sc
      @Lily-ed2sc ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      why are Zim people fighting to remain in a country that does not want them?

    • @Trenchwarsoldier-x5v
      @Trenchwarsoldier-x5v ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Zimbabwe is stealing our minerals in illegal mining syndicates and selling it to Saudi Arabia… you even stealing copper wires and destroying our infrastructure!

  • @jameskillu9171
    @jameskillu9171 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    south africa belong to all who live in it, locals and foreigners. we are all one.

    • @francisbenjamin3286
      @francisbenjamin3286 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ❤❤❤❤❤

    • @MasixoleMaxwell-z8x
      @MasixoleMaxwell-z8x 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      That's an old song

    • @jesiarmakgoana1775
      @jesiarmakgoana1775 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      In your dreams

    • @markwhite5926
      @markwhite5926 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Until Isis or some other Islamic terrorist group comes in... Then let's see if that works

    • @ZodwaMbonani
      @ZodwaMbonani 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      Jameskillu is a Shona from Zimbabwe

  • @jameskillu9171
    @jameskillu9171 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    The Zulu king adviced that foreigners be treated well

    • @MasixoleMaxwell-z8x
      @MasixoleMaxwell-z8x 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

      This is not his country

    • @GoforiGugu
      @GoforiGugu 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@MasixoleMaxwell-z8xmtshele 😅😅😅😅😅

    • @takisomohale5180
      @takisomohale5180 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      This is not his country go to zulu land

    • @GoforiGugu
      @GoforiGugu ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@takisomohale5180 Don't put like that... mybe you should say he is not representing Zulus

    • @Cleo256
      @Cleo256 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      He said they must not stay in cities but come serve under his Kingdom....he said they must come to him

  • @Said_Abdul
    @Said_Abdul 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Estimated illegal immigrants is almost million, the cost of deportation would be billions. The home affaIrs should find a way to documents those who are already here,thus m
    aking south
    Africa free undocumented persons.

    • @mariahkamogelomoloisane6276
      @mariahkamogelomoloisane6276 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      Government must tell them to go back home, we pay more than a billion for them to be here.

    • @Skyre0
      @Skyre0 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@mariahkamogelomoloisane6276 uyisiwula

    • @Missk1516
      @Missk1516 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

      Imagine legalizing over a million people who have their own country??

    • @jam-fam
      @jam-fam ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@Missk1516 they are lazy thinkers who are quick to make opinions.

    • @Lily-ed2sc
      @Lily-ed2sc ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      No. A lot of these people do not qualify to be here. They are not refugees. They are economic migrants. They should come through the right channels. We are not going to document illegal foreigners.

  • @KlipDriftCoke
    @KlipDriftCoke ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    #SayYesToXenophobia