FRACTAL IS RELEASING A NEW PRODUCT! VP4 Virtual Pedalboad
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Cute. Fractal is making an HX Effects now. 😁
Getting this day 1 too. I have the nano cortex, so maybe I can use these 2 together for an amazing sounding fly rig
Great call!
I got old an old jcm 800 head, and a newer hughes and kettner Grand meister 40 which both kick butt to this day, I bought the headrush core modeller to get into the world of modelling. Works fabulous for me. May not have the nuances of the hard core people but at 68 years young makes me smile. Never owned a Mesa or an Orange amp but sounds great to my ears! TC
i never played thru a real tube head or amp...
I had my eye on an fx only board and someone in the FB group mentioned that Fractal had this coming...Man, am I glad I went with the HX effects!
All I want is an updated unit with M9 interface, and size. Until then, I’m content to use my old, and inferior, M9.
Its a legend for a reason!
Thanks for the update Steve! You're always first to the punch. I just follow you and you always keep me up to date. Thanks again.
Means a lot! Thank you for the support
4 buttons FX only idk i just can’t really see where an fx only unit fits in these days that said I remember that fractal guys were known for using hybrid rigs back in the day so it may do great
This seems more like two H90s than a Stomp or HX Effects.
Assuming they have the ability to do the equivalent of snapshots, like in Line6...4 is plenty. I love my hx effects because it really is the big advantage with digital. Not a problem at all IF they do that right, and I assume they will.
Excited to run this with tonex
Thanks man. You're always informing us . God bless you
I think this is going to be an excellent product if it’s only the effects with no amp/cab features.
I’ve been using fully digital amps for around 4 years now and I’ve been using an FM-3 for almost 2 years already. I absolutely love it and it’s my favorite guitar device ever, I’m not getting rid of it any time soon and I will be very sad if/when it’s no longer receiving support and updates.
Despite this, I’ve been meaning to put together a new conventional pedalboard to use with real amps, and at some point I considered using the FM-3 with just some of the effects for a while; However, it is not particularly practical to use in a hybrid setup because of it’s size, weight, and the way it’s powered; but with this, that just solves my entire problem!
I know for a fact a lot of people use the fractal stuff just for the effects, so this is an excellent move, and making it pedalboard friendly (unlike the FX8) is what will make it so appealing to many. That’s why I also think 4 switches is the right amount; it will allow this pedal to be easily incorporated into medium and maybe even small pedalboards, unlike something like the HX Effects which needs a lot of pedalboard real state to be used. I think this will help bring many amp purists into the fractal ecosystem without shoving amp modeling in their face.
I don’t know, but I’m very excited, it seems this is going to be awesome!
I think this release is going to be utterly fucking amazing. Stereo effects going into a oouple of Tonex Ones running Amalgam's recent Fender Twin releases = absolute win.
An interesting question is what new technologies and UX are used in VP4 that might translate to FM3 and FM9. Re scribble vs Gig view - I find being consistent with how the switches are laid out is key to being able to use these configurable pedals live. You can't look down at the unit to select the switch when playing and singing.
Disagree on the six footswitches notion, you can always expand but you can't cut down a unit with six footswitches. But super excited for this!
Yeah that could just be a surface/gut reaction. With press hold and double press options it can probably do a ton more than just the 4
Hopefully this is like the Boss MS-3, with FX Loops + Fractal effects + Midi out at least, if so, take my money.
Looks like it'll play nicely with a Nano Cortex
As if they were made for each other!
I know what it is. They Got this great idea and said " Hey,Let`s break it down in to 50 products and sell them as we move along" LOL. Jus sayin,Soon as I get settled they drop something else.lol.I`m not complaining jus joking. But do ya feel me ? I`m running a Hybrid system now using my amp but the HX stomp as my Brain or hub on my board. and here we go again,This could be somethin cool,sure hope so,Thanx Steve,You have givin me awesome insight and helped guide me through my gear Journey,I`m happier than ever. KEEP ROCKIN !
HX Effects blows this away in number of blocks, number of fx loops, general i/o on it, expression pedal input, scribble strips, etc etc. Was interested until I saw the leaked pics of crippled i/o compared to what Fractal is known for with plenty of i/o.
Everyone is trying to catch up with Line 6, but there will never be a better tool than the Stomp within the same price.
unless you're interested in making/using amp captures. If so, ToneX + HX effects is a pretty killer budget combo and that NAM pedal looks to be a strong contender as well, but still in its infancy
🤣 Let me guess, you only use and know line 6
@@LaCajaDeSnakeonly if your mom changed her name 🤣
@@Rav3nghast 🤣 You are a bommer and a cheapskate, you don't know a nickname and you don't like to spend on your work tool
Foreal tho. I even have an fm3 and I still love my hx stomp. Best piece I ever bought
It's cool...kind of a big footprint for 4 blocks. It will probably sound great but cost a bit too much to overthrow the mighty HX Stomp.
Interesting for sure! Sell my FM3 and combine a FS4 with my Tonex pedal to complete effects and amps :) Very interested to see what Fractal have come with in the FS4.
Exciting Steve!!! Thanks for the video!!
4's good for me right now. I've spent forever throwing in extra fx just 'cos I can. At this point I'm starting to use drive & reverb off the amp, & fx more subtly. I get that most won't feel the same way & that's fine.
What might this do that an old (and inexpensive) HX-effects can't already do while having scribble scripts?
Million dollar question right there.
utilize Fractal-quality effects.
If it has controllers like LFOs, pitch followers and envelope followers like the other hardware then a lot more. Also the FX8 offered the ability to put all your effects in parallel which could be useful so this will probably do that too. Fractal Audio’s effects are better than line 6 in my experience too especially reverbs and modulation. This should be more akin to Eventide than Line 6 in terms of quality. That saying I think the HX effects is a great product. I use mine as a midi controller for my Axe FX.
@@peterjessop1878 Ahh, ok - interesting! Thank you for the thoughtful reply!
@@peterjessop1878 It does indeed have the modifiers (controllers), LFO A, LFO B, ADSR, Envelope and the Pitch Detector. The first effect block will be series, but blocks 2-4 can be parallel. I was able to peak at the manual before it was taken down. There's also a ton of screen shots of it in the thread at TheGearForum.
Also probably important to note, it has a new-to-Fractal, more streamlined UI,
Perhaps we will see VP6 and VP8 variants, with additional foot switches added, in line with product naming convention I.e 6 and 8 foot switch variants in the near future!
Unlikely. What you will see are people using small MIDI floorboards with this.
The Gear Forum FTW
Indeed!
If it plays well with analog drives, I think it's a good option
Steve I think it depends on the price point if its effects only. But you have to ask, there are so many great multi effects pedals out there, is this going to have competitive offering?
Yay! They ditched the scribble strips!!!!
I'm betting this is Fractal's answer to HX Effects. It may have a connection capability to be able to be used with the FS6 and FS12 units.
As long as the 4 buttons, you can use for clean crunch rhythm and lead.I'm in any idea on the price thanks
TC Electronic Plethora x3 sells more that Plethora x5.
3 options + other pedals gives more freedom.
I'd love a unit with four foot knobs. :)
Monkeys will be happy. 🐒
Loving the podcast👍🏻, please keep it up!
I can already taste the complaints 😂 That power supply people will lose their mind about out of the gate.
Maybe Fractal will offer the FC-4 with it…
You can add a Dual Switch to increase the buttons ;-)
Each pedal might hold 2 scenes like headrush does. 8 is enough.
It will be interesting to see what Fractal thinks is "worthy" to introduce as a new product. Perhaps Captures, Profiling capability? 🤷♀
No captures/profiles.
Definitely layout dependent. With the buttons.
I have always wanted to try a fractal unit of some kind.
I’m a tonex guy at present but the fractal stuff does sound awesome, it’s just the price I can’t justify sadly
New sub Steve 😊
I'm a Fractal guy
I bought the little ToneX a few months ago.
I'd highly recommend getting hold of one of the current Fractals as there's really no comparison IMHO, the Fractals are just the best of the best
@@tonykennedy8483 thankyou for the advice tony , much appreciated , i have seen the fm3 up for 800 used....also the older axe fx II units seem to go for 500-800.
i reckon id go for a fm3 eventually if i get the right price ect.
@@AtlanteanGuitarist Just get one, it's such a capable unit
Have a look in your local area to see if any companies allow you to rent one.
If you get one for a week or so it'll give you a chance to compare the two
Have a look on the Fractal forum if you want any help or tips as it's always been a great place in my experience and was a lot of help when I got my Ax8
In fact, an AX8 is still an amazing unit, might be a consideration too
@@tonykennedy8483 yes i have seen the ax8 for even cheaper ect, i didnt want to go for too old of a unit due to the weaker processing power perhaps?
I wonder if it will have amps as well. I’d like to make a small bass board it it did have amp capabilities.
This will probably be great for some… not really what I am interested in at the moment. Will need to see the full feature set and capabilities.
that said if this was a small box to run dual amps I would probably be preordering day one. If this is just fx it is not really what I am interested in at the moment.
HX FX seems like a good option if I want a full featured multi with enough footswitches. I guess if the Fx quality is clearly way better than line 6 this will find its place for some people.
Total nothing burger to me I mean if you have an FM9 or an M3 or an You got all the effects you need sure this is probably a lot like the hx efx unit but has Steve said why only for switches man why not? Just make two rows of four? Why not make six? Why not go all out? Why limited if you’re gonna do a new product that’s affects only to save some money. It’s still gonna be expensive if it’s fractal I mean looking at it. It’s like to me of the $500 unit but knowing fractile they’ll probably charge 899 for it so why not just buy a FM3
I have used FAS for decades now, but I think it's time for them to really move forward with something close to the QC, with a touchscreen and more foot switches. FM3 is too limiting for me, and the FM9 is too large for today's modelers. This might be a "kick the can down the road" product, not sure but we shall see soon.
Has fractal even been around for decades lol?
@@matthewfreeman33 2006 to present pretty damn close.
I would kill for a Fractal spring reverb pedal. No digital reverb pedal comes close to the algos on the Fractal.
Nuenaber Immerse Mk-II is just as good as the Fractal verbs.
im not really impressed if thats what it looks like. it reminds me of the HX stomp. No XLR is a no go for me. If i was going to go into fractal it would be the FM9
Can fm3 link to this to free up dsp but also control this?
I have a helix floor and a
Im broke so my opinion means nothing lol but I have the utmost respect for fractal and know they do amazing work and one day if I could see myself with a fractal device.
But with that that I have to say on initial impression this is... Underwhelming.
Big device with not enough buttons. I know fractal does a great job with effects but it's going to be very very difficult to justify this over the very well priced hxfx as an all in one pedal board.
We'll see. I wish this product the best.
I just bought the fm3 turbo 4 months ago.
Dont worry the FM3 has amps and effects the FS4 will be effects only!
Am I the only one that wanted this to be an amp sim pedal and no effects?
No, a few others have commented this
Impossible for me to buy a product that I can try before. I always pass when it’s about fractal. V4 for a pedalboard.. hahah can’t replace mine at all. Boring
I mean if it was say 5 or 6 hundred, it might be something to consider to get the Fractal effect line, but I'm curious as to the price
If it's under $1,000 and has the Megatap delay, I am going to make soft happy sounds of joy because I love that effect to bits and have long wanted it as a standalone pedal.
If this is real, no indications it’s not. I would be surprised if it’s not an effects pedal. No need for a small modeler, they already have one.
The post i show on TGP is from their official account. It's real
@@SteveSterlacci then I suspect an effects pedal.. it’s been well established that Fractal has some great effects. There are those that will love an effect pedal from Fractal.
@@SteveSterlacci Not TGP. TheGearForum.
I don’t think that is TGP…
@@CrudeDayTones link is in description. Gear forum whatever it is
Obviously, all we can do is speculate, so take my comments in that light. It is likely to support only a single signal path. Which means that this is for players that normally use a relatively simple signal chain. And for players like that, there would typically be a modulation, delay and reverb, plus drive, maybe compression (but not everyone use it), maybe a boost (but again, not everyone uses a boost). So, 4 foot switches might be OK. Pair it with a ToneX or a real amp, and you're good to go. But modeler/multi-fx units can do all of what I imagine this one will do (although, this may or may not sound better). An HX Stomp / XL can do all that this will do I assume. Just because they have amps and cabs, doesn't mean you have to use them. AT $600 or less, it might be interesting. But if it is $800+, not really. IMHO. YMMV. TTFN :)
You can set it up in 4CM to run pre/post effects.
Sonically, it is a great product but they are still too pricey and even 2nd hand.,,,
But is it midi capable???
Yes.
Midi I/O is on minijacks.
FAS effects rival anything in an Eventide, Strymon, or Meris pedal and this thing will run four effects simultaneously. Pick up an extra shift at the Waffle House boys, it’s go time.
Well, if it is effects only and can be used 4 cable method, I really hope it will also allow you to switch channels on your amp. That would be incredible.
I think you’re right and would be so good to get these relays to switch amp channels plus 4 method cables for pre and post effects. A dream would be to make a profile of your amp with this device … when you can’t bring your on amp on stage 👍
It IS effects only and can do 4CM, but does not have amp channel switching.
If you could use it in conjunction with the FM9 adding 4 additional foot switches and freeing up CPU on the FM9 I’d be all in, but it doesn’t look like it will have that functionality?
I guess it would need the FAS link? Otherwise you can still 4CM and use midi 🤔
Agree but without the FAS link you obviously don’t have integration of the 4 additional foot switches. Like you said, they probably should have had 6, and if they had the FAS link with 6 switches and a price tag $300-$500 over an FC6 you’d have seen a boat load of FC6’s on reverb and FM3 and FM9 owners would take full advantage.
I’m not mad at Fractal, just a small opportunity missed, unless there’s a VP6 incoming in the next few months. 😊
Effects only. Pass.
I hope it has IRs too.
Fractal gear is super pro and sounds amazing but they definitely need a designer at least. They products are horrible and the design is awful.
Everybody keep launching products but for almost 5 years now and POD GO has all the features, all the sounds, all the effects and with the craking a reasonable effect chain. Good size and good sound. I don´t know how many people had forgotten about it and will spend 50 bucks more on a nano cortex that is sheet.
Except the footswitches are garbage
@@ericajohnson7535 yeah that's right, but man everybody wants 3 button on their pedalboard just because ola england saids so, and everyone keeps adding midi foot switches. Just be cool and buy a pod go or a HX xl. Line 6 is king, not the best in sound but they are 0.5 off and who fkng knows with all this products. 10 years of the tech and the HX sounds family it's on top. They are the last to the party of capture and they still compete.
Why would you buy a mini Kemper, or a fm3 or a nano cortex if it s not just for amps. If you want effects HX xl and there you go.
In my opinion, Fractal should have try the capturing thing. The VP4 is trying diluting Fractal. Not for me...
Scribble strips are over rated. Every effect is color coded yellow is od/ dirt, green is delay etc. if the light is on its active. Come on man.
Its more for 2 same type of fx or a scene that does many things
Fx only? Hard pass
This is all I want
@@TreyAlexander it s also 4 blocks only. good luck with that
Also overpriced
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