Uberlite VS Xtherm VS Tensor - THERE'S A NEW SLEEPING PAD KING

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  • @darcydavey3863
    @darcydavey3863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    Hey Dan, just want to thank you for putting the grams and Celsius conversions on the screen. As an Australian i find it hard to gauge oz and Fahrenheit haha. Thanks again!

    • @curcapsicum
      @curcapsicum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      As a canadian, same here.

    • @AlexanderMason1
      @AlexanderMason1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Only America and Liberia use imperial and Fahrenheit.

    • @ladaux
      @ladaux ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a european, same here.

  • @jenyates3033
    @jenyates3033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    Wow imagine having a temperature scale where zero is the temperature water freezes and 100 is the temperature water boils. Wouldn't that make things really easy... 🙃

    • @octaveious9417
      @octaveious9417 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Imagine having a temperature scale where 0 degrees is about as cold as it gets, and 100 is about as hot as it gets..
      And anything under 0 is extremely cold or above 100 is extremely hot 🤨.
      Fahrenheit is made for humans, not science.
      If you enjoy science.. a simple conversion to celsius isnt hard to do lol

    • @1CrazyDummy0
      @1CrazyDummy0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@octaveious9417Imagine people in siberian winter laughing at „about as cold as it gets“ and someone from africa going „0 degree ist as cold as it gets? Nice, wont ever have to worry about snow then.“
      Fahrenheit isn’t „made for humans“, its randomly selected for a very narrow climate zone and not appliable as an international standard.

    • @3sbon
      @3sbon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      How often does it get hot enough for water to boil where you live?

    • @neologian1783
      @neologian1783 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@3sbon Daily. I drink coffee in the morning so..... :-)

    • @TheSotai
      @TheSotai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@octaveious9417 0 F was defined as being when brine froze, not really human related. The other limit, which was set at the time for human body temp, or what they thought it was....was 90 F
      So sure a 0 to 90 F temp scale makes sense, if you're American.

  • @backpacker3421
    @backpacker3421 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I started backpacking back when that original Thermarest valve was introduced. It came on the original Thermarest "self-inflating" pads. Back then, those pads were the greatest thing going. About 1 inch thick fully inflated (which took some lung work to add the last bit of air). They maxed out at an R value of around 3 or 4 (guessing - nobody knew what R value was back then). Oh, and packed down, they were about 2 feet long and about 4 inches thick... so like 4 times the size of the modern pads... and about twice as heavy. But they were the King. Nothing else compared back then. I still have 2 or 3 in the garage.

    • @april906outdoors3
      @april906outdoors3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol...still have mine, but use it for car camping now. 😁

    • @HarvyDangerFilms
      @HarvyDangerFilms 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha! I still have mine too. My parents got them for me when I was a kid. They were absolutely King back then. I loan them out now or let the kids use them for sleepovers. They have lasted a long LONG time.
      Love my Nemo Tensor Insulated for backpacking.

    • @Kevinschart
      @Kevinschart 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i bought a self inflating theramarest for my first pad about 3 years ago. Super comfortable, warm....I love it but it takes up so much space. I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on the tensor.

  • @nicktombs1876
    @nicktombs1876 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Dan, good film as usual. I have as lot of differant sleeping pads too, one of my Expeds is rated down to minus 40 and my lightest is a Big Agnes one. I have a piece of Alreflex insulation which is the silver bubble wrap type of thing which weighs nothing and I always take this to put under whichever pad I am using, it reflects back some of the heat you lose but also I have found it to be extremely good at helping to protect the sleeping pad from twigs, thorns, rocks, etc.

  • @kimrobb1965
    @kimrobb1965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great information Dan thank you! I personally use the Therma rest xtherm all year long even though it is overkill for summer I just love that Pad so much👍🏼🎒

  • @andrewb4984
    @andrewb4984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good timing. Just got back from a week in the backcountry. Now, my back is paying for it. My sleeping pad was terrible. Will check these out. Thanks for the info!

  • @markthiel2953
    @markthiel2953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have found that fixing the lumbar support in my Yugo just requires me to swap out the 2x4 with a 1x4. Once done I am good to go. Thanks for your videos. Always fun and informative. Press on.

  • @dragonflynh1
    @dragonflynh1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree for summer backpacking. To push it a little lower in temp I carry an 1/8 inch pad from Gossamer Gear.

  • @NoMadSaunters
    @NoMadSaunters 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really!! I just bought the Tensor. It’s going on it’s first trip in a couple of weeks. I like that I can “set it and forget it” and not have to baby it too much. So hopefully no regrets after use on my upcoming trip.

    • @mikey13b
      @mikey13b 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did it go?

  • @MBergyman
    @MBergyman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am easy on pads too. I am a BIg Agnes fan, mostly since ive used a q-core SLX for years with no issues. 19oz of warm squishy goodness. I bought an AXL (UNinsulated) and have had probably a couple weeks of sleeping on it in Yosemite and also no issues. Like you say, most people are not going to camp when it it is super cold. My AXL will go everywhere I go until I find its limit, and then I’ll pull out the SLX for anything colder.

  • @gregmortonoutdoors
    @gregmortonoutdoors 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I picked up a regular insulated tensor at an REI garage sale for $80. I'm 6'1", 230 lbs and surprisingly the 20 inch pad works for me both on my back and side sleeping.

  • @Shane7492
    @Shane7492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've used more sleeping pads than I'd like to admit over the years, and my go to is the Xtherm. It's expensive as hell, but to me it has the best warmth to weight to comfort to quality ratio of any pad. I use it for all trips now.

  • @backpacker3421
    @backpacker3421 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I know two different UL hikers who had the same experience with the Uberlight: totally excited when it came out, ordered it right away, took it out as soon as they got it and woke up the first morning to a deflated pad. Called Thermarest, got a replacement, took it out right away, and woke up the first morning to a deflated pad. I have the X-lite, X-therm, Tensor, and Tensor Insulated. I'll never buy an Uberlight. A few ounces is not worth going to bed every night worried that I'll be repairing a hole in the middle of the night (if I can find the hole). A dead sleeping pad is a surefire way to ruin a multiday trip.

    • @jasonwondersoutdoors3702
      @jasonwondersoutdoors3702 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ditto to that! I just returned my Uberlite to REI. Woke up to a deflated pad on an almost ideal campsite. It’s simply too thin & flimsy. Just. Not. Worth. It.

  • @dexterkendall1951
    @dexterkendall1951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the Uberlite. I've been using it for about 2 years now, and have slept on it as low as about 30 degrees F. I do have a thermarest closed cell foam pad that i put underneath it, just because I know it's a very light material. But i usually bring that on all my trips anyways.

  • @kristymoore7052
    @kristymoore7052 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love my Uber light and have used it over 20 times in the last year. Even with temps around freezing. Others on you tube have not given it a fair chance. I’m not that careful, and it’s been great.

  • @marjiecleveland
    @marjiecleveland 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for reviewing. I think having two of them would be perfect for whatever weather you have to deal with!

  • @MakoBlitz
    @MakoBlitz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    These pads look amazing, but they are quite expensive. I did 8 nights/107 miles in Yosemite with the $30 Sleepingo pad off Amazon. It’s only 14oz, packs real small, and kept me warm. Good budget option.

    • @nagaviper1169
      @nagaviper1169 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here. I use a budget pad from Amazon. So far, so good.

    • @nathalie9329
      @nathalie9329 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have a really cheap one from decathlon but I will be upgrading soon as they just don't keep me warm enough. If you are a warm sleeper and it is not cold outside you can definitely get away with a cheap pad but if you are a cold sleeper or it is a bit colder outside you actually need to invest into a more expensive pad

    • @theoutsiders4ever83
      @theoutsiders4ever83 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some dicks sporting goods got klymit and klymit insulated, they like 10$ more then sleepingo(had 2) and man on man klymit ones especially the insulated are nice

    • @neologian1783
      @neologian1783 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely. But this is just a way of saying that some gear works for some folks in some situations. But that same gear may not work for all folks in other, or even the same, conditions. And so we should celebrate the availability of different products to suit different needs and requirements.
      I'd be stoked to get away with a $30 pad whenever and wherever I could....but wouldn't be caught dead (but would probably be found dead) with one in the Whites in January. Like you, I'm perfectly happy with my old RidgeRest pad in "most" conditions but I'm a pretty cold sleeper so that pad has hard limits for me. This is why my Thermarest Xtherm is a must have despite it's exorbitant price tag. I positively need the higher R value to even begin to sleep comfortably on snow or in temps below 10. True for me...but not true for everyone.
      It all comes down to what works "for you" and what works "for you" is contingent upon a long list of factors that are unique to you. My list of factors is such that the Xtherm is a bargain because even with it's high price tag, it provides what I need and thus gets me out there when another product would keep me home. Without it, or a product like it, I wouldn't be able to be out there at all without packing A LOT more gear. No sense in wagging your finger at a product because something else works fine for you. That product might be essential and indispensable to others who's list of needs and usage are entirely different.

    • @MakoBlitz
      @MakoBlitz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@neologian1783 Thanks for that insight! In my experience summer backpacking with the $30 amazon pad it has kept me plenty warm, but for winter camping I would need something totally different, especially considering the $30 pad is only rated as 3-season. As we become more experienced (and camp in colder weather in your situation) it makes sense to spend more on the lightest, warmest, smallest gear. However, the primary reason why in my opinion it’s so important to highlight *true* budget bags such as my $30 one is not for pros like you but for the thousands of beginners watching Dan Becker trying to maybe backpack for the first time in the summer. Too many people never go backpacking because of the outrageous pricetags of top-of-the-line gear. While sacrificing a little quality and warmth, good budget pads need so much recognition for first-timers (going in the summer). Backpacking can be incredibly discouraging when the entry level costs are so high, but as you and I both know it is most definitely worth it. So, as the backpacking community, it’s our job and duty to share the activity to a wider audience by promoting entry-level budget alternatives for those interested. Then, once people are acquainted with backpacking, having a good time, and want to step it up, by all means buy a $100+ pad. Hope this helps :)

  • @mdntwriter59
    @mdntwriter59 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dan you are the man who has a plan for crowning the new king of Sleeping pads! thank you my brother🙏🏽

  • @debbilermond1553
    @debbilermond1553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the review, Dan! I get cold easily when sleeping in the back country so I chose the NEMO Tensor Insulated Regular Wide sleeping pad just like the one you have. I am a side sleeper and 5'8.5" tall, so I don't need a pad that's 77" long but I do need the 25" width all the way down. I have a Feathered Friends 10 Degree Semi-Rectangular Penguin, so having a rectangular bag makes more sense for me. I'm glad you found your perfect pad but I'll stick with the NEMO for now.

    • @7drunkenmermaids431
      @7drunkenmermaids431 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm having issues with too many other pads. I'm 5'1", and get cold and am a side sleeper. I'm currently using the therm-a-rest neoair xlite but it's just not wide enough for the flip flopping I do when I sleep. I'm definitely thinking of this one too but I have a hard time dropping 300$ on Amazon. Did you find it elsewhere for a better deal?

  • @adventureswithbecketandxena
    @adventureswithbecketandxena 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for all the info Dan. I'm looking into getting a new sleeping pad. After watching this I'm thinking about getting the uber light

  • @djsomers100
    @djsomers100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just got two Nemo's. Love them but now you have given me sleeping pad envy...
    Had my nights with deflated sleeping pads. Love the light weight of the Uberlite but the pad does you no good if it leaks. Nemo seems nice compromise. No problems yet.

  • @thepleasureroom9646
    @thepleasureroom9646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just got my uber lite in the post about an hour ago. Blew it up and laid down and I hear two big pops. Two of the top most baffles near the head have blow up. Well at least I have a pillow now hahaha. Back in the post you go!

  • @jacksonq.8161
    @jacksonq.8161 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Never have actually gone backpacking. I just really want to go and watch these to prepare for it i actually get to one day!

    • @davidjd123
      @davidjd123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      same, the gear itself just wants me to jump into a trail lol

  • @beejoy6153
    @beejoy6153 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Last thing I want to hear when purchasing a a sleeping pad is "This one can be pretty delicate". LOL, yeah no that just screams..."Be cautious, this one has the potential of leaking or popping". LOL!

    • @brianpeters5715
      @brianpeters5715 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Watch another backpackers channel, she had two leak at the same time, her and her mother’s. On the same trip.

    • @beejoy6153
      @beejoy6153 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brianpeters5715 😂😂😂

  • @SimonOutdoors
    @SimonOutdoors 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love this video Dan, some great pads there. We have a new king! Take care

  • @Marooncords
    @Marooncords 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The legend has spoken. I needed this man!! Thank you!!! Needed this for my hammock.

  • @thehikingnovice6474
    @thehikingnovice6474 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey dan I've been really been enjoying your channel since I found it what kind of pad would you recommend for a stomach sleeper

  • @mike158193
    @mike158193 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I just got my Uberlite after sending it back for repair to sierra designs for service due to a valve issue. They sent me a new Uberlite large with the new valve, sooooo much better verses the old valve. Came with the easiest pump sack and love it. Yes it’s fragile and I am very careful with it as inflate it and deflate it while I lay it on my plexamid to keep it off the ground. Then put it right into my tent, pad works well for me but the tensor is what I hear a great pad and will probably pick up a tensor.

  • @chemistryflavored
    @chemistryflavored 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love my Tensor Regular Size as it’s the only pad I’ve been comfortable on. I prefer rectangular pads though and go to lower temps here on Oregon. I returned my XLite after 2 trips where I didn’t sleep so can’t see why the Uberlite would be any better for my style of sleeping. Just my two cents... like you said, opinions are just opinions. I buy my pads through REI for the return policy alone. If it’s not for me, it’s and easy swap.

  • @lizharan
    @lizharan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Dan, informative and entertaining. Now subscribed to your channel.

  • @zachariahdiller2766
    @zachariahdiller2766 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ohh man. I bought the Tensor from your recommendation. That pad is fantastic. My wife and I both enjoyed it more then her exped deepsleep mat. So can I ask, why the uberlite over the tensor? In your opinion? Its it size and weight?

  • @clayb.6077
    @clayb.6077 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really love. Nemo products. And my favorite mat is my Cosmo. 25L insulated with the built in footpump. I even have the uninsulated version. My go to tent for car camping or light backing is my 2016 Galaxy 2 p or my big agnes. Manzanares 2p .

  • @Julus65
    @Julus65 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video,please show us the 3 pads inflated together.👍

  • @OldBumOnABike
    @OldBumOnABike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm more than happy with my Sea to Summit Ultralight Insulated. I've been using it for over 4 years now. Never let me down.

  • @MrDanAng1
    @MrDanAng1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really love the Uberlite, but they certainly need more care, I really look out to remove any sharp twigs and pine cones and other stuff from the camp ground before I lay it down.
    Mine is holding up fine so far, but I understand why they easily can have holes and tears.

  • @GoTacoma
    @GoTacoma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First off I’d like to say I absolutely love your videos. Came across them a while back when I first got into backpacking. I live in California and your videos have helped me decide on the gear that fits me best! I can not remember the exact video but I believe I saw you had the Garmin inReach Mini GPS. I’d love to hear your thoughts about it as I am considering it since a lot of backpacking trails in California are without cell service.

    • @DanBecker
      @DanBecker  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s awesome! Highly recommend.

  • @pbj6303
    @pbj6303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have an xtherm. So noisy I couldn't stand. I bought the Nemo Insulated. Couldn't be happier. So quiet and comfortable.
    No on the Uberlite. I need a long wide.

  • @joeykerr5517
    @joeykerr5517 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm more of a hammock guy, but I keep thinking about trying ground again. Not sure what I'd get, but I just know I'd need something thick and wide (inb4 that's what she said) because of my sleeping problems.

  • @alistairj4851
    @alistairj4851 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought the new Trekology UL80V2 mat. Super comfy and 10cm/4" thick and very little noise when moving around.

  • @keleramsay3213
    @keleramsay3213 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should make a video showing the gear you should buy second. After you get into camping and you want to continue

  • @douggibson276
    @douggibson276 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video Dan!!

  • @robnoodle1
    @robnoodle1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hay Dan
    What are your thoughts on the Therm a rest Neo Air Topo Lux
    Haven’t officially used it yet
    In a cold side sleeper
    But I’m can’t wait to break it in
    It seems to be tuff & very warm

  • @burrito4422
    @burrito4422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be awesome if you did a vid with sea2summit ether insulated, alongside the other pads. Love the info from ur vids

  • @OutdoorAbenteuer
    @OutdoorAbenteuer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Advice again from you ❤️🌳❤️

  • @eddydubois4411
    @eddydubois4411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely love this channel..i love nemo gear too

  • @danielchassie
    @danielchassie ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the Nemo Tensor regular wide and like it. For me it’s very comfortable and will keep air for many nights when inflated. Also the tensor is quite to sleep on with no ruffle sound and I find it to be light to pack.

  • @ShortStack023
    @ShortStack023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did you ever use Exped pads Dan? What are your experience with them if so?

  • @2laughandlaugh
    @2laughandlaugh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still love my Klymit Static V.....18oz and very comfy. 23 wide and 72 long.

  • @Ontrail82
    @Ontrail82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New to the channel! U got me with this one! We use the same pads! 🤘🏼👍🏼 haha

  • @kevinkreisher8287
    @kevinkreisher8287 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video thanks

  • @erict5878
    @erict5878 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know of some hikers that used the uberlite and it leaked the very first night. I guess it was not 100% sealed when it was made

  • @collegedad8656
    @collegedad8656 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good reviews. Been using the Nemo Tensor for about a year after switching from an Ultralight pad, and have a Big Agnes insulated pad for when I really want to abuse myself camping in the cold. 😲 The Tensor is a good all around pad, and sleep comfort is worth the weight...just like carrying a camp chair 😉

    • @garybaglin2840
      @garybaglin2840 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The big Agnes isn't good? That's what I have but I'm new so I don't have anything to compare it to.

    • @collegedad8656
      @collegedad8656 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@garybaglin2840 Love the Big Agnes pad. Just use it when I am abusing myself by camping out in cold weather 🤣 Then that pad is a great option. 👍

  • @user-sl8kq3cj7b
    @user-sl8kq3cj7b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Dan, great video. Given you are happy to add kilos for comfort, have you tried out anything like the NEMO Roamer? Don’t think I’ve seen a backpacking video looking at whether those “luxury” foam & air pads are worth it for the backcountry if sleep is the priority

    • @florindagonzalez5700
      @florindagonzalez5700 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had the nemo roamer. It was hands down the most comfortable pad I've ever slept on until my cats got to it. I was so sad. I haven't gotten around to their return policy. But, it was most excellent even if it was bulky and hard to put away

  • @garystone6583
    @garystone6583 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just received my trekology ul sleeping mat and have to say it's awesome

  • @glendabaghian1145
    @glendabaghian1145 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey DB, can you review pads again, yes again (third time is a charm) for 3 season double layer hammockers, who don't want to tinker with setup and adjustments of an under quilt please? Thanks.

  • @barondavis5692
    @barondavis5692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’d say the temperature limit on the Uber is 40*. I had mine in 36* and was chilly. Also the Uberlite is super slippery.

    • @SeraphX2
      @SeraphX2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This will entirely depend on the person and when chilly starts bothering them.

    • @barondavis5692
      @barondavis5692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seraph X2 Agreed, just my $.02.

  • @MaxKrieg
    @MaxKrieg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your content, keep it up. And has anyone ever told you that you kind of look and sound like John Krasinski? 😂

  • @mountaintreksupplycompany3632
    @mountaintreksupplycompany3632 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this video long time.

  • @AdventureswithSpackmann
    @AdventureswithSpackmann 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn’t get a pump bag with my uberlite????

  • @shanes8132
    @shanes8132 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the info. I’m from La Crosse. Cheers mate!

  • @titanpreparedness
    @titanpreparedness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still haven't pulled the trigger on a sleeping pad, mostly cause i sleep great in a cheap hammock. Good to see theres so many options

    • @prone_wolf8871
      @prone_wolf8871 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you do above treeline?

    • @titanpreparedness
      @titanpreparedness 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@prone_wolf8871 i dont go above the treeline.

  • @douglasvincent5409
    @douglasvincent5409 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Dan love your videos what are your thoughts on the Nemo vector with the integrative foot pump versus pump sack in regards to moisture and mold, I bought the field version, wide and long and it is on the heavier side but I find this is the most comfortable and warm pad I have never owned and I own on a lot of sleeping pads. I bought it when everybody was talking about mold inside the sleeping pads I guess this might have been debunked now. But I do like the fact I don't have to huff and puff to blow it up especially for the size that it is what's your thought. Also I've ditched the stuff sack mostly because of laziness I rather just deflate it and fold it up and put it in the bottom of my pack.

  • @backpacker3421
    @backpacker3421 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Kind of confused why you would compare the insulated versions of the Tensor and X-Lite against the Uberlight. That's a little apples to oranges, IMO.

    • @robalan57
      @robalan57 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It might be saying buy all three for different conditions. That big one is winter. The little one is summer...

  • @sagehiker
    @sagehiker 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is like comparing apples, oranges, and a banana. I am a four season Wyoming hiker and have two different pads. A ThermaRest Xtherm mothership for winter, and a Nemo Tensor, uninsulated, for the rest of the year. And no, you won't die with a pad with an R value less than 2 if you have a good bag. If you are a quilter, it may make more of a difference.

  • @petercoconut
    @petercoconut 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks Dan, I have the Tensor and love it. Not slippery and so comfortable. Favorite of all of the 5 pads I have. Was going to buy the Uber light, but not and more because I'm a little rough with my gear on day number 5 in the wilderness. Thanks Dan-O!

    • @christopherheer4834
      @christopherheer4834 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would you buy 5 or more pads? Too much money in the bank or just burning your credit cards?🤣

    • @petercoconut
      @petercoconut 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christopherheer4834 LOL, in the 30 years I've been backpacking, 5 pads isn't that bad! 😂

    • @christopherheer4834
      @christopherheer4834 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@petercoconut congrats :)

  • @idahoonthefly5859
    @idahoonthefly5859 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anybody know the video where dan mentions a hammock widener? I have been looking for it and can’t find the video

  • @kristinegoodman7534
    @kristinegoodman7534 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    HAHA. Idaho gets that cold at night in the mountains on the regular. July, August, doesn't matter. Almost have never had a night over 40 degrees in all the years I've backpacked here :)

  • @leeprice674
    @leeprice674 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Dan great video as always and now I need some advice 1 year after watching again. I'm a cold side sleeper, unlikely to sleep in sub zero temps in the uk. But looking at the new nemo at R4. 2 and thermarest at 6.9 😳🤔 Both expensive so whilst I'm at it what would be your recommendation please. 6 feet tall, 180 and move lots 😊👍 Cheers buddy.

  • @noodles.dumplings.kimchi2878
    @noodles.dumplings.kimchi2878 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which would be recommended for a side sleeper??

  • @michellebentz3576
    @michellebentz3576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cracking up! Tensor gives me the lump 😄 i hate it, cant get rid of the damn lump. I love the xtherm. Have all 3 of these same pads and Xtherm is king.

  • @smesaric
    @smesaric 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think the neoair xtherm would be good for a military application? I'm a very cold sleeper and a Floridian haha, so i get cold easily and i hate it. I would put it inside my bivy sack so i wouldn't have too many concerns about durability, but I am curious as to how long it takes to set up and take down because that could be a deal breaker. Thanks to anyone who can help me out with this or give me a suggestion for a good alternative!

  • @Apocraphon
    @Apocraphon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you tried the Nemo tensor alpine, R value: 4.9

  • @zacchariaturnbull5322
    @zacchariaturnbull5322 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never had a problem with my uberlite so far. The main danger is probably inflating it outside a tent, so the flextail may be a good addition.

  • @SteveSzczecina
    @SteveSzczecina 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a Nemo Tensor for my last trip and it got a slow leak just sitting in the tent on day 2. Had to suffer through the night on the cold ground and returned it as soon as I got home.

  • @goosegoose2767
    @goosegoose2767 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Dan - check out the Sea-To-Summit “Ether Light” sleeping pad. Comfortable at 4-inches thick. Mine is the large insulated, super nice for side-sleepers!

    • @ondrej_kraus
      @ondrej_kraus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah stop ignoring sts pad, or you will wake up with deflated uberlite! 😉

    • @TheTrailDancer
      @TheTrailDancer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      HAHAHHAAH I just told him to try that too! I think it's the best pad on the market! :)

    • @peakbagger2014
      @peakbagger2014 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Goose Goose true! I own that pad and it’s comfy AF

    • @kdavis4910
      @kdavis4910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for mentioning this pad. I need cushioning and have been very concerned because most pads aren't very thick but they sure want some $ for them. 4" sounds perfect.

    • @martiaottawa4259
      @martiaottawa4259 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are yous talking about that new pad uberlight or nemo

  • @TheTrailDancer
    @TheTrailDancer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dan, please try the Sea to Summit Ether Light XT; it's the best pad to me.
    Nemo and S2S pads are WAY more comfortable than Thermarest IMHO; plus the noise???? :( Even Big Agnes makes some GREAT pads that are super comfy!!!!
    The Insulated Nemo Tensor is SUPER WARM... a definite 4 season pad.
    Nice Vid Again...

  • @evacoutdoors5867
    @evacoutdoors5867 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dan, would you use the UberLite over the Tensor or do you consider the Tensor is worth the extra 300 grams.

  • @QuiescentCookie
    @QuiescentCookie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Trekology ul 80
    40D nylon
    4" pad, r value 2-2.5
    2 degrees c temp rating (3 season)
    Half the price of these at least and absolutely perfect for side sleeping, even curves in around me.
    Weighs 19 oz.
    Honestly I reckon as far as budget options go it's so good the slight advantages you can get with these isn't worth it.
    Definitely reccomend you look into it. Only disadvantage is that it's slightly noisy if you shuffle and no included pump sack.

    • @CharlesBlank
      @CharlesBlank 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would you still recommend the ul80 if temperatures will be around 20*f

    • @QuiescentCookie
      @QuiescentCookie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CharlesBlank probably need something with a higher r value for that low down unfortunately. I think they've got a newer version of the ul series that might work?

  • @Love2Wander
    @Love2Wander 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good review Dan none of them for me.Stay safe my friend

  • @nathanwalsh3829
    @nathanwalsh3829 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Opinion on the exped synmat??

  • @kennithpolfliet2624
    @kennithpolfliet2624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Hey Dan, would it be an option to add size (and weight) in m (and kg)? You would help your European fans a lot! 😊 Love your videos!

    • @aark89
      @aark89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fans everywhere but the US haha

    • @jimcarr8605
      @jimcarr8605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Really, you're that lazy?

    • @kennithpolfliet2624
      @kennithpolfliet2624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@jimcarr8605 Dan is trying to address a wide audience of hiking fans. Most of them watch these videos indeed on a 'lazy' evening to relax after a long day of work. So it's definitely nice to have the units on the video in multiple ways. As you probably saw, Dan didn't mind my remark at all since it was polite and constructive. Wishing you a happy weekend.

    • @fuggoff5277
      @fuggoff5277 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      do you understand how to get elected as a president in the usa?

    • @fuggoff5277
      @fuggoff5277 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      in Germany it is more clear Mutti makes a Phone Call

  • @vargaresa
    @vargaresa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should check out the Pariah Outdoor Products Recharge sleeping pads!
    I am very happy with mine and they are way less expensive than most of the pads shown here.

  • @msmariasolis1
    @msmariasolis1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any chance you can review couples sleeping pads/bags?

  • @stevelickiss9984
    @stevelickiss9984 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dan....shocked after the amazing glowing review for the Nemo tensor just two months ago that now you’d jump to the thermarest uberlight. Maybe go watch your last video.

  • @davidson_oldbull_sectionhiker
    @davidson_oldbull_sectionhiker 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great view Dan

  • @vaisht377
    @vaisht377 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the best sleeping pad for backpacking and camping that's under $50-$60? I'm a scout and need one for camp outs and Philmont.

  • @luislam6259
    @luislam6259 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video Dan. I just picked up the uberlite. It wouldn't stay inflated through the night. I thought maybe I had a defective one so I returned it. Did you have any issues with air loss with the uberlite?

    • @DanBecker
      @DanBecker  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No not at all. No leaks. It’s been a great pad. The Nemo is more comfy but the uberlite is still great.

  • @chrisnewby328
    @chrisnewby328 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Big Agnes Q core deluxe wide is so comfy

  • @TerryYoungOutdoors
    @TerryYoungOutdoors 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How dare you!!!😁 The Tensor was a definite game changer for me. I can honestly say I sleep as good on it as I do in my own bed at home. I'll never go back to Thermarest. Nemo Tensor Rules!!

  • @kgrigby
    @kgrigby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dan, what would you say is the quietest pad of the three?
    I have a Sea to Summit which makes a hell of a racket.

    • @mikevonspeed4396
      @mikevonspeed4396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try putting in a bag liner, woked great for me . You also get the bonus of not laying on plastic during hot weather.

  • @oling2812
    @oling2812 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have you tried the Sea to Summit Ether Light XT Insulated? It's incredibly comfortable.

    • @blomkillen
      @blomkillen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isnt it sticky to the skin on a warm day?

    • @christopherheer4834
      @christopherheer4834 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blomkillen do you sleep naked on the mat? Lol. Usually you would use a sleeping bag anyway

  • @jmcnallyua
    @jmcnallyua 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is a good budget-friendly sleeping pad that would be good for 3 Seasons Thank You and keep up the good TH-cam videos and stay safe

    • @JustinOutdoors
      @JustinOutdoors 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you're only going down to freezing, I've found the Paria Outdoors Recharge to be comfy and it is a great budget option. I have yet to find a pad that gets below freezing that is budget friendly!

  • @michaelnichols5973
    @michaelnichols5973 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew it! I knew you never really left the super uber micro trendy UL 10lb or lighter plantation. Tks for the comparison vid nonetheless. Sticking with NEMO ftw.

  • @kellycarlen9605
    @kellycarlen9605 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the Tensor in L/W. It’s ok. For me the Exped Synmat UL is more comfortable. Similar specs to the Tensor. Like you say, go with what works for you. Good video.

    • @mndvz
      @mndvz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      As I am a fan of rectangular sleeping pads, I'm currently doubting between the two pads you just mentioned. But I heard that the Exped pads make a lot more noise than the Tensor, can you confirm this to help me choose? :-)

    • @kellycarlen9605
      @kellycarlen9605 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mandy van Zanten My Exped pad is super quiet, probably more so than even the Tensor. Any inflatable pad will have some noise, but the Exped is the quietest I’ve ever used. For me, I like the longitudinal baffles of the Exped better too. I use the Schnozzle pump sack to inflate it. This is the one I have: www.exped.com/usa/en/product-category/mats/synmat-ul-lw

    • @mndvz
      @mndvz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kelly Carlen Thank you Kelly! Very helpful 😊

  • @lorismith8479
    @lorismith8479 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    XTHERM MAX ROCKS :)
    We camp in the Winter at New Years, but I'm a Canadian and we're crazy about camping like when we close down for Hockey Games lol

  • @nickcrane888
    @nickcrane888 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need a wide pad but not necessarily long. Uberlite wide= 12oz and unreliably delicate IMHO, goes down to 40 degrees F. The Thermarest Xlite regular wide= 15 oz, better R value, much more durable and 3 oz more. Also, the new inflation system is much better than the old one, faster inflation, faster deflation, doesn't leak (so far!)

  • @readyme
    @readyme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And the dark horse... Sea To Summit Ether Lite XT insulated.

  • @hoser7706
    @hoser7706 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My takeaway from this is the Uberlite is not that comfortable to you but your crowned it king over the Tensor why?? Because of weight? I have used both. Nemo is very heavy but comfy. Next night I used the Uberlite and was comfy but sadly had a defective one that kept deflating. Onto Klymit and Big Agnes and an Xtherm fir winter for me now BUT I may or will return to an Uberlite the moment a long trip warrants it.
    As always thank you for great videos.

  • @ancientpathseeker6036
    @ancientpathseeker6036 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which pad is the least noisy. I have a problem with the noise especially when camping with my kids....changing sleep position in the middle of the night and it's so loud... I wake up at every movement. 😳

    • @april906outdoors3
      @april906outdoors3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tensor is the quietest (and most comfortable) pad I've ever used.

  • @tamiboelter2833
    @tamiboelter2833 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    how do you hang your packs? Is it a series of hooks?