@@Incomudro1963 the build quality was not terrible on the LTD. my grand parents bought on in 1969. its not a modern sports car, it is a 50 year old luxury car. so yes the breaking and handling sucked compared to a modern car. but they also went to the moon in a space capsule that has less computing power than your phone. There were no build quality issue with the LTD. my grandparents bought one in 69. about 5 years before I was born, it was still running when i turned 16, all 4 of my cousins drove it in high school, my younger brother drove it when he was going to collage, my grandmother hit a cow with several years latter, an everyone walked away with out a scratch. the only reason its not running now, is the quit making parts to repair them.
grand parents bought a new 70 with that engine - I snuck out one night at age 12 or 13 with my cousin we drove the car down the block to a big hill - put the car in 2nd (auto) foot on brake slowly started revving the engine - at about 2500 rpms let off the brake and floored it - it laid tread up the hill for a block - it was an insane torque monster with thin tires
That 2.80 rear definitely was a performance culprit here. Back in the days when there was no AOD (fourth gear) for an already power hungry transmission, putting a tall rear gear was the only option you had for economy. Good tires and gearing selection can do a lot, even for a mild setup.
I owned a '69 Galaxie and a '70 LTD. Had a 351 in the '69 and a 390 in the '70. Not too bad performance wise. These cars strong suit was in the ride quality and quietness. LOVED the dashboards too.
Love this car, my father had 69 Ltd county square wagon then it was my first car, had 390 engine I always have that car in my mind. Thank you for sharing this.
My Dad had a 1969 LTD. Jade Black will a black interior. I was just 14 years old, and I felt like I was riding in a limousine. No catalytic converters, no emission controls, leaded gas...
Yes those were the days. My dad had a 68 impala with a 327. The car was white with a black vinyl top and black interior. Yes that car was beautiful and it smelled like a new car for years. My sister bought a 1971 Mustang Mach 1. That car was sweet too . I bought a 1971 Dodge Charger SE with a 440 for $1,250.00 . It had 59,166 Miles on it in 1979. The car still smells like a new car the day I bought it. I save my money up delivering newspapers for years. I was 17 years old and had a muscle car. It’s a miracle that I’m alive today being 17 years old and having all that horsepower.
Great drive train and super nice riding, boy they just did not hold up to the rust though...and the 8-10 mpg is a deal breaker. I really liked the 93-97 Crown Victoria...last of the American Full size and would leave the old LTDs in the dust and still get 22+ mpg. I did not care for much for the Aero styling, so I always wanted that frame and 4.6 engine with say a 65 Galaxie body!
@josh grant doing the Men in Black thing. What a ride...never had a box Vic but helped my Nephew buy one, was a fire cheif's car...tight suspension w/ sway bar, and early injection on 302
Bob, my folks had a 77 Continental Mark V Bill Blas edition, blue /white 2 tone with the fake convertible top. It had smooth Blue leather interior...great for me to borrow for date nights. Total Pimp machine! Seriously that car was 8mpg at best.... What a Barge...We called it the SS Nimitz (or aircraft carrier).
@@gt-37guy6 I own two 79 Mark Vs and I'll tell you what I tell anyone who walks up to me and calls my car a pimp mobile. I take serious offense to that comment. In effect they are calling me a man who employs prostitutes and I partake in the profits, and I'm not very nice about it. It also tells me whomever calls the Mark V a pimp mobile has no clue on God's green earth as to what they are talking about. If you were seen driving a 77-79 Mark V, this means you were very very successful in life and that you've done well. So, Are you calling your parents Pimps? Did they employ prostitutes?
@@styldsteel1 Jeez man, take a valium....you clearly can't understand ANY sort of humor...OK Mark V's represent the pinnacle of auto engineering and style...there you go...
@@styldsteel1 You must have an awefull hard time being constantly offended on the internet. If calling a Two Tone Lincoln with fake convertible top a Pimpmobile offends you.... Do a Google Image search for a late 70s Bill Blass Model Two tone with the fake top and tell me that Huggie Bear from Starky and Hutch wouldn't LOVE that car. C'mon man...
I had a 1969 XL 429 you felt like you were doing 60 at 120 and you could run there all.day long . This car was on par with the Talladega at high speed .best new car we ever owned and you could not blow up the engine no.matter what you did .
Even the stock bottom ends on these engines were incredibly tough. A low performance, de-tuned 429 4 barrel engine like this would last forever with reasonable care.
I used to turn the 429 in my 71 Ford Custom with an N code 429 police pursuit package 6500rpm. It really started to nose over at about 6300, but with the 3.25 gears it ran 70 in 1st, 110mph in 2nd and would run the 140mph certified speedo out of the numbers.
Brings back memories. In the sixties, my dad would buy a new car every 3 years and always a Ford. Being in grade school then and looking back, wish I could go back in time and share the excitement of the new car with my father.
My grandmother had a 1969 LTD 429-4v. I was born in 74 and my first memory is of ridding in that car. it was white and blue just like the one in the commercial. that thing was a beast of a big car. they had that car until they passed away in 2015. now it belongs to my mother.
@@RoadRunnergarage8570 I am trying to convince my wife to let me get that car from her and restore it. it would look super cool sitting next to my 1971 Camaro SS 396 4 Speed. both big blocks, but kind of polar opposites in purpose.
I once rode in the brother in law's Montego with a 429 PI engine and a calibrated speedo. It barked the tires shifting from second to drive......at 90 mph!!!
You can see a 1970 Montego 429 PI in the original "Gone in Sixty Seconds" movie. It was one of the best looking police cars ever. California used them a lot. The car had true dual exhaust in the movie and it was eating the doors off of everything on the road except maybe the big block Mopars. Pretty sure all of the cars were stock in the movie for budget reasons.
I have a story about a 2 door 429 Ltd ! In 1969,l was riding my 750 Honda. At.a red light a 427 corvette, with a young guy in it, and a 60s looking guy pulled up beside him in the 429 Ltd. Long straight away on hwy 41. I was going to pick a race with the vette, but the light changed and the corvette and The Ltd took off and to my surprise, the Ltd pulled away 4,5 car's lengths from the corvette. It.was a good 1000 ft drag race and the only one surprised more than me was the corvette driver!
My goodness, 51 years later and this car is still stunningly beautiful. Sexy big girl who with just a few noticeable tweaks can really haul the mail. Think about it, 4300 lbs, polyglass 14 inch tires and restricted exhaust with small 4bbl and that beast was still running 16 seconds in the quarter mile. Oh my goodness. Wow
@@gavellhunter4985 The exhaust manifolds we're very restricting, why do you think guys put headers on?? Take this car out headers on, 2.5 duals, 4:11 gears instead of the stock 2:80 in this car, drag radials and a little tweaking the 429 and you got a 13 second car so it's almost still stock. Now port the heads, better cam, 750DP Holley, 3000 stall, boom deep 12s enough to keep up with most modern Vettes!! 💥
My dad had a 69 Ford with a police interceptor and 140 on the speedometer and it would lay rubber in 4th gear. He took me to school every morning for a while and it was the most fun of my childhood.
1969? I guess it depends who you were hanging out with. The socialists running the country now were burning the flag with their dope smoking, draft card burning, goat-smelling, barefoot peace-creep friends.
If you’ve ever noticed in the late sixties until the end of its life the LTD & the Marquis even the Marauder were twins under the skin all you have to do is really look at the body shells and you can see the resemblance
3.42 rear end,4 wheel disk brakes,4 speed transmission with O.D , better suspension with BILSTEIN shocks and you have real fast beast that can stop and handle too
The music. The slang. Hilarious. 9.2 seconds to 60 was pretty slow even for that heft in that era. And look at that body roll at 3:30. No bracing I assume.
2:72 rear axle not 2:80 Body on box frame construction. Not Uni-body. Not sure why they thought locking the brakes up and skidding to a stop was a good indication of breaking ability.
“Lead foot to the floor, she didn’t take off like a scalded whore with 360 ponies runnin’ wild, but acceleration was respectable... Through the corners, this fat fendered Ford plowed like John Deere’s finest, but sprung back into shape quickly enough, moving down the pike with plenty of scoot... Noteworthy is the 480 foot pounds of torque at 2,800 rpm, which delivers to the driver all the yank he needs to twist the night away... Braking was mediocre with moderate fade, but did haul the car to a stop before we crossed the state line... Inside, the front bench seat with fold down armrest has acres of space to stretch out and relax the dogs daddio.”
Police suspension and Velvet Touch full metallic brakes cured all of those problems but those breaks don't stop until you heat them up. Gearing around 3.50 and not 2.73 would help acceleration ,too. That long nose with the flat grill made high speed driving easy. I could do 90 in first 120 in second and IDK in 3rd.
16 seconds in the quarter mile with a 2:80 gear and hard bias ply tires. Now let's tweak that 429 just a little, put some cheater slicks on and 4:11 gears, oh I think we can drop two+ seconds easy..
"A 2.80:1 rear end is a pretty good choice for getting a 4300 lb. car off the line" ... WHAT ??? ... "But performance suffered a little at high RPMs"... WHAT ??? ... 1st gear prolly carried to 70 MPH... 2nd to a 100... 3rd toward 150... 16+ seconds in 1/4... About like a 305" Chevy Monte Carlo... almost...
It's not a bad 1/4 time for a big boat like this. 0-30 in 4 seconds isn't bad either. The 2.80 rear obviously wasn't helping. A 3:55 rear would turn this car into a completely different animal but I don't think they offered any gears that low in an LTD. 3:25 maybe. 1969 was a good year for these 429s, too.
A Ford LTD wasn't really meant to be a performance car. It was Ford's top of the line luxury car. But I guarantee it would surprise you with a shorter gearset in the rear. I prefer the earlier full size Ford's from 1961-67 but still a nice ride. The 427 R-Code Galaxie's were awesome machines and the earlier 1961 375 horse 390 with solid lifters and the 406 were no slouches either...especially with the 3x2 setup on them
I have my Dads 69 Lincoln Continental MK iii . Rides like your on a cloud and will sit you back in the seat at a red light. And have surprised afew people at those lights.
Not sure of the Ford designer's nane, but he was originally at Ponitac, maybe Bunkie Netson? Pontiac also had hide away head lights and that silly bird beak that was on the TBird, and the 70s LTD.
@PHOENIX RISING This was essentially the "Thunder-Jet" 429 Thunderbird engine. Lots of performance potential. Even the stock cams and compression ratios were pretty decent in 1969 for all American V8s. You could really warm these engines over nice if it wasn't in such a boat of a car.
The 1966 LTD and Galaxie 500 were the best looking, most comfortable Fords, IMO. I had a 66 Galaxie 500 two-door hardtop that was fast and pretty nice.
That was the first car I ever drove, same color even, my uncle stopped and said you are driving, he had to stack some books on the seat so I could see over the dash!
I had a 1969 LTD with the 429, My mother told me one day "I hate that car", when I inquired as to why, she replied, "I was going down the (35MPH) road and when I looked down at the speedometer, I was going 85!"
I drive a 2010 Crown vic that will mop the floor of this whale! But that doesnt take away the Love I have for old Fords! I Love od cars and the nastalgia is awesome!!
Dad had a new 69 Merc Marquis with the 429"Thunderjet" and 2.80 open axle with the dual exhaust option. Pretty good power but the wheel covers flew off if you tried to corner hard. It tipped the scales at 4400 lbs.
Funny part of this is that most of these cars did not come with a 429. The 351 was most likely the standard engine for this car if there was no special order.
I was surprised to see the mid to late 60s full size Galaxie 4 door cars could be ordered with the 427; there is a video of a station wagon (maybe '67) with a 427/4-speed. I know, lots of the 2-door Galaxies had the 'R' code, but imagine the sleeper of a 4-door or station wagon with that engine back in the day! I am sure--very, very rare, but they do exist. Come to think of it, a select very few (like 3 or 4) of the full-size Chrysler (as in corporation, which includes Plymouth and Dodge) were Hemi 4 door sedans. Those might have been special order for law enforcement, but that would be cool bidding on one in the mid-70s at a fleet auction. I would be happy with the '71 Polara ex-CHP sedan had I been old enough to bid on one!
@Laurie Sarno I vaguely recall reading something about that in an article. It may have been mentioned in the same article about the FBI Hemi sedans; something like 3 or 4 cars made for the FBI with Hemis. I would think that more people would have talked about CO patrol cars installed with Hemis over the years if true. Perhaps some hot-rodder sheriff had a couple cars converted to 426s? They would have been engines from wrecked cars is my guess as I am fairly certain crate engine Hemis would not have been plentiful. Or, the cars were experimental cars from Chrysler?
Watching these videos I noticed Bud always has a comment about how hot the brakes get. If there was ever a downfall of old cars it was the inadequate braking tech for anything but normal, leisurely, easy driving. Even with front disc brakes, braking technology was no match for heavy cars with lots of power, lots of weight up front, and soft suspensions at high speed. You need larger discs, Not just larger disc brakes 4 piston vented calipers all around if you're going to slam the brake pedal on a 4400 lb car from 70 mph all day.
Pretty sure these had coils in the rear like other full size Fords at the time. My Dad bought a 69 new with a 302. By 1973 the thing was completely rusted out and went to the junkyard with only 43,000 miles on it after he bought his 74 gran torino station wagon.
They had coils in the rear. I had a '69 when I was 18 in 1983, and it too had the rear frame rot out. It was fun while it lasted, but the weakened frame couldn't handle my abuse for long, and I cut it up and scraped it... I had a '74 T-Bird with a 429. It was rotten but would fry the tires. It met its demise as a derby car. Good times...
You would find the Ford 351 Winsdor, VIN code H; the 390 2V, VIN code Y; and the 429 2V, VIN code K; and lastly the 429 4V, VIN code N. The most common were the 351W and the 390. The tester in this video was loaded with every option, beautiful car.
The 69 & 70 Ford LTDs in my opinion were the best out of all LTDs from other years very unique 71s & 72s should have stayed the same until 73 but 73 & 74 should have been different from what they turned out to be and that 73 - 78 run was just too long I know after 74 they changed the front end & back ends on the coupes & sedans 75 - 78 and just the front on wagons 75 - 78 Those instrument panels and station wagon bodies had a super long run fro 73 - 78 way too long
I think 1970 was the last great year for full-sized Ford’s. After that, just like Chevrolet, they got pretty vanilla. The 1965-1968 models were my favorite, especially the 1967.
@@roberthart557 You still have no idea what your talking about. I don't need any research at all. I own two Mark V Continentals, both with the 460 Ci, and they do not get 4 MPG, and you are still saying a 19 ton bus gets better mileage. So much inaccuracy on this internet, and you are a major part of it.
Only in America where you can drive your couch! As a youngster I didn't care for the big floaty Fords and the like, I guess because I had driven my uncles GTO.
That's a Gross torque rating. Beginning in 1972 the ratings changed to SAE Net values which are how vehicles are rated nowadays. My guess is that the old 429 would be rated about 380 lb/ft net torque and about 270 net HP.
Yea it don't compare to today's ratings. They used gross power output figures. Meaning, the engine ran without accessory drives, no air filter, open pipes, the most optimal race grade fuel, and tuned to make as much power as possible.
It was a luxury car. They intentionally put 2.8 gears so it would take off smooth, with less engine noise. I wouldn't have bought it if I was alive then, because I don't want a smooth comfortable boat. It's similar to a Cadillac 500; it hauls fine, but wont burn the tires.
Need to show the 69 police interceptor 429 4-speed 11 1/2 to 1 compression which adjustable and studded guide plates in rockers it was downright nasty never got the credit it deserved, and would smoke a big block Chevy any day of the week, the engines block numbers for the Interceptor are c9ae very rare
They did weigh a lot. I have three of them yet from when I was a teenager. I bought a LTD for $150 in 1989. The hubcaps would fly off if I cornered real hard at times. One time I went around a corner and one flew off past a guy walking. It hit a bush just behind him chopping a part of it off. I did not have the balls to stop and get the hubcap back and took the others off.
This car's numbers would have been a LOT better with a 3.00, 3.25 or 3.50 gear. I find it kinda hard to believe that it weighed 4300, my 71 Ford Galaxie 500 with a 351W weighed 4040, I think the 429 wouldn't have added 300 pounds. 150 lbs maybe.
Ford went all the way to the years 2010+ before they decided that how a car handles was important. Ford even used rear drum brakes on the 2017 Focus, Imagine that.
429 acres ! Now THAT’S an engine !
This is the definition of America
Powerful and Weighty
long live America........Hail.....
DAMN-A$$ right!!!
Ill handling, terrible braking, .horrible build quality inside and out.
Yup, that was the definition of American back then.
@@Incomudro1963 the build quality was not terrible on the LTD. my grand parents bought on in 1969. its not a modern sports car, it is a 50 year old luxury car. so yes the breaking and handling sucked compared to a modern car. but they also went to the moon in a space capsule that has less computing power than your phone. There were no build quality issue with the LTD. my grandparents bought one in 69. about 5 years before I was born, it was still running when i turned 16, all 4 of my cousins drove it in high school, my younger brother drove it when he was going to collage, my grandmother hit a cow with several years latter, an everyone walked away with out a scratch. the only reason its not running now, is the quit making parts to repair them.
grand parents bought a new 70 with that engine - I snuck out one night at age 12 or 13 with my cousin we drove the car down the block to a big hill - put the car in 2nd (auto) foot on brake slowly started revving the engine - at about 2500 rpms let off the brake and floored it - it laid tread up the hill for a block - it was an insane torque monster with thin tires
Yes before steel belted radials were widely adopted. Jay Leno makes jokes about polyglass tires every chance he get ha.
if you were my kid doing that, i would wear that little ass out with my belt. wouldn't be a 2nd time after that.
@@roadmaster720 😆😆😆
are you aware in that car " 2 " started you out in 2nd..... ? I believe only Ford was that way.....
That 2.80 rear definitely was a performance culprit here. Back in the days when there was no AOD (fourth gear) for an already power hungry transmission, putting a tall rear gear was the only option you had for economy. Good tires and gearing selection can do a lot, even for a mild setup.
I do so miss the big cars of the 60's and 70's.
I owned a '69 Galaxie and a '70 LTD. Had a 351 in the '69 and a 390 in the '70. Not too bad performance wise. These cars strong suit was in the ride quality and quietness. LOVED the dashboards too.
With a little "magic" the 390 could be mean too.
Nice wraparound effect. My folks had a '70 Galaxie with the 351. Even though it was garaged, the dash cracked wide open on top.
Love this car, my father had 69 Ltd county square wagon then it was my first car, had 390 engine I always have that car in my mind. Thank you for sharing this.
My Dad had a 1969 LTD. Jade Black will a black interior. I was just 14 years old, and I felt like I was riding in a limousine. No catalytic converters, no emission controls, leaded gas...
Yes those were the days. My dad had a 68 impala with a 327. The car was white with a black vinyl top and black interior. Yes that car was beautiful and it smelled like a new car for years. My sister bought a 1971 Mustang Mach 1. That car was sweet too . I bought a 1971 Dodge Charger SE with a 440 for $1,250.00 . It had 59,166 Miles on it in 1979. The car still smells like a new car the day I bought it. I save my money up delivering newspapers for years. I was 17 years old and had a muscle car. It’s a miracle that I’m alive today being 17 years old and having all that horsepower.
No converters for five more year's
Compared to today's cars that was the best car that Ford ever made in my opinion
Great drive train and super nice riding, boy they just did not hold up to the rust though...and the 8-10 mpg is a deal breaker. I really liked the 93-97 Crown Victoria...last of the American Full size and would leave the old LTDs in the dust and still get 22+ mpg. I did not care for much for the Aero styling, so I always wanted that frame and 4.6 engine with say a 65 Galaxie body!
@josh grant doing the Men in Black thing. What a ride...never had a box Vic but helped my Nephew buy one, was a fire cheif's car...tight suspension w/ sway bar, and early injection on 302
We had it in a Country Squire Wagon. It rotted out off the frame in 5 years..so no
The manufactured fuel crisis of 1973 was an arrow to the heart of the American empire. We have been flailing against it ever since
@@bernardboka4277 Hard to win when your own politicians are selling the country out behind your back......
These were truly land yachts. They pitched and rolled like crazy! Gotta love em though... great memories.
Bob, my folks had a 77 Continental Mark V Bill Blas edition, blue /white 2 tone with the fake convertible top. It had smooth Blue leather interior...great for me to borrow for date nights. Total Pimp machine! Seriously that car was 8mpg at best.... What a Barge...We called it the SS Nimitz (or aircraft carrier).
@@gt-37guy6 I own two 79 Mark Vs and I'll tell you what I tell anyone who walks up to me and calls my car a pimp mobile. I take serious offense to that comment.
In effect they are calling me a man who employs prostitutes and I partake in the profits, and I'm not very nice about it. It also tells me whomever calls the Mark V a pimp mobile has no clue on God's green earth as to what they are talking about. If you were seen driving a 77-79 Mark V, this means you were very very successful in life and that you've done well. So, Are you calling your parents Pimps? Did they employ prostitutes?
@@styldsteel1 Jeez man, take a valium....you clearly can't understand ANY sort of humor...OK Mark V's represent the pinnacle of auto engineering and style...there you go...
@@gt-37guy6 funny thing is when people vomit out these comments, it's not sarcasm. Or have no clue as to what a pimp or a John is.
@@styldsteel1 You must have an awefull hard time being constantly offended on the internet. If calling a Two Tone Lincoln with fake convertible top a Pimpmobile offends you.... Do a Google Image search for a late 70s Bill Blass Model Two tone with the fake top and tell me that Huggie Bear from Starky and Hutch wouldn't LOVE that car. C'mon man...
I had a 1969 XL 429 you felt like you were doing 60 at 120 and you could run there all.day long . This car was on par with the Talladega at high speed .best new car we ever owned and you could not blow up the engine no.matter what you did .
Even the stock bottom ends on these engines were incredibly tough. A low performance, de-tuned 429 4 barrel engine like this would last forever with reasonable care.
I used to turn the 429 in my 71 Ford Custom with an N code 429 police pursuit package 6500rpm. It really started to nose over at about 6300, but with the 3.25 gears it ran 70 in 1st, 110mph in 2nd and would run the 140mph certified speedo out of the numbers.
My boss had one of these. The car was so comfortable riding in. He said it was called an LTD because he said it stood for his Last Thin Dime.....lol
Or Long Term Debt.
We had one that crossed the USA several times, it was a wonderful road car, even with the 302 engine.
@T. Kendrick It was like sitting on your living room couch. It was so smooth, quiet, and comfortable.
Brings back memories. In the sixties, my dad would buy a new car every 3 years and always a Ford. Being in grade school then and looking back, wish I could go back in time and share the excitement of the new car with my father.
People should get new cars more often we only live once
My grandmother had a 1969 LTD 429-4v. I was born in 74 and my first memory is of ridding in that car. it was white and blue just like the one in the commercial. that thing was a beast of a big car. they had that car until they passed away in 2015. now it belongs to my mother.
My Mom still has the last car my Grandfather bought .. a 75 Pontiac Grand Prix LJ... We still take it to 3 or 4 car shows each year..
@@RoadRunnergarage8570 I am trying to convince my wife to let me get that car from her and restore it. it would look super cool sitting next to my 1971 Camaro SS 396 4 Speed. both big blocks, but kind of polar opposites in purpose.
I once rode in the brother in law's Montego with a 429 PI engine and a calibrated speedo. It barked the tires shifting from second to drive......at 90 mph!!!
You can see a 1970 Montego 429 PI in the original "Gone in Sixty Seconds" movie. It was one of the best looking police cars ever. California used them a lot.
The car had true dual exhaust in the movie and it was eating the doors off of everything on the road except maybe the big block Mopars. Pretty sure all of the cars were stock in the movie for budget reasons.
I have a story about a 2 door 429 Ltd ! In 1969,l was riding my 750 Honda. At.a red light a 427 corvette, with a young guy in it, and a 60s looking guy pulled up beside him in the 429 Ltd. Long straight away on hwy 41. I was going to pick a race with the vette, but the light changed and the corvette and The Ltd took off and to my surprise, the Ltd pulled away 4,5 car's lengths from the corvette. It.was a good 1000 ft drag race and the only one surprised more than me was the corvette driver!
And then you woke up with a stiffy???😆
I love that car, best looking LTD OF ALL TIME!
My goodness, 51 years later and this car is still stunningly beautiful. Sexy big girl who with just a few noticeable tweaks can really haul the mail. Think about it, 4300 lbs, polyglass 14 inch tires and restricted exhaust with small 4bbl and that beast was still running 16 seconds in the quarter mile. Oh my goodness. Wow
How was the exhaust restricted if this is a 69?
@@gavellhunter4985 if it even had dual exhaust from the factory it was only 2 inch or 2.25 inch pipe and restricted by cast iron exhaust manifolds.
@@gavellhunter4985 The exhaust manifolds we're very restricting, why do you think guys put headers on?? Take this car out headers on, 2.5 duals, 4:11 gears instead of the stock 2:80 in this car, drag radials and a little tweaking the 429 and you got a 13 second car so it's almost still stock. Now port the heads, better cam, 750DP Holley, 3000 stall, boom deep 12s enough to keep up with most modern Vettes!! 💥
No, 15 inch Tires
@@m42037 That'll never happen 🤣
My dad had a 69 Ford with a police interceptor and 140 on the speedometer and it would lay rubber in 4th gear. He took me to school every morning for a while and it was the most fun of my childhood.
My old boss at the Exxon station I worked at had a black on black one with the 429. I thought it was the baddest car in town! Love it.
This was a time in which patriotism was still the going thing...which was MORE than I can say for the here and now!!
1969? I guess it depends who you were hanging out with. The socialists running the country now were burning the flag with their dope smoking, draft card burning, goat-smelling, barefoot peace-creep friends.
@@booifojoe What I meant by that is that we were buying domestic and not foreign...as opposed to later years!
When I was a kid my neighbor had an LTD just like this. Back in the day when you had an LTD you have money.
If you’ve ever noticed in the late sixties until the end of its life the LTD & the Marquis even the Marauder were twins under the skin all you have to do is really look at the body shells and you can see the resemblance
So true....right down to the torque of 480 lbs/ sq ft......
Back in the fay I thrilled to watch the big FoMoCos fly around on the city streets on those classic cop and detective shows.
th-cam.com/video/z5rRZdiu1UE/w-d-xo.html
Try this Ford chase scene
3.42 rear end,4 wheel disk brakes,4 speed transmission with O.D , better suspension with BILSTEIN shocks and you have real fast beast that can stop and handle too
Didhe say 429 cubic acres?
Yea, that's the size garage needed to park it in.
He did say acres.
Yes, for all the horses.
YES.he did 😂😂😂
He surely got that STRONG MANLY character.he got me well 👍👍👍👍
My great uncle Paul drove one of these. Olive green. He always watched his Magnet P.I. Because he couldn’t say “Magnum”
The music. The slang. Hilarious. 9.2 seconds to 60 was pretty slow even for that heft in that era. And look at that body roll at 3:30. No bracing I assume.
2:72 rear axle not 2:80
Body on box frame construction. Not Uni-body.
Not sure why they thought locking the brakes up and skidding to a stop was a good indication of breaking ability.
“Lead foot to the floor, she didn’t take off like a scalded whore with 360 ponies runnin’ wild, but acceleration was respectable... Through the corners, this fat fendered Ford plowed like John Deere’s finest, but sprung back into shape quickly enough, moving down the pike with plenty of scoot... Noteworthy is the 480 foot pounds of torque at 2,800 rpm, which delivers to the driver all the yank he needs to twist the night away... Braking was mediocre with moderate fade, but did haul the car to a stop before we crossed the state line... Inside, the front bench seat with fold down armrest has acres of space to stretch out and relax the dogs daddio.”
Police suspension and Velvet Touch full metallic brakes cured all of those problems but those breaks don't stop until you heat them up. Gearing around 3.50 and not 2.73 would help acceleration ,too. That long nose with the flat grill made high speed driving easy. I could do 90 in first 120 in second and IDK in 3rd.
@@edge2sword186 he was just quoting bud I think
@@bonkeydollocks1879 trying to quote Bud, but not successful
16 seconds in the quarter mile with a 2:80 gear and hard bias ply tires. Now let's tweak that 429 just a little, put some cheater slicks on and 4:11 gears, oh I think we can drop two+ seconds easy..
"A 2.80:1 rear end is a pretty good choice for getting a 4300 lb. car off the line" ... WHAT ??? ... "But performance suffered a little at high RPMs"... WHAT ??? ... 1st gear prolly carried to 70 MPH... 2nd to a 100... 3rd toward 150...
16+ seconds in 1/4... About like a 305" Chevy Monte Carlo... almost...
It's not a bad 1/4 time for a big boat like this. 0-30 in 4 seconds isn't bad either. The 2.80 rear obviously wasn't helping. A 3:55 rear would turn this car into a completely different animal but I don't think they offered any gears that low in an LTD. 3:25 maybe.
1969 was a good year for these 429s, too.
"Prolly" = probably.
Best to get it off the line with no wheel spin, is what I'd imagine he was implying.
Put them side x side from 30-70. Think that would be close??
A Ford LTD wasn't really meant to be a performance car. It was Ford's top of the line luxury car. But I guarantee it would surprise you with a shorter gearset in the rear. I prefer the earlier full size Ford's from 1961-67 but still a nice ride. The 427 R-Code Galaxie's were awesome machines and the earlier 1961 375 horse 390 with solid lifters and the 406 were no slouches either...especially with the 3x2 setup on them
The condition of this car looks like it's 50 years old. Hard to believe this was filmed in 69.
Wow, you noticed. See the paint on doors different shades of white, and the sheetmetal behind the wheels looks like somthing was up. Good eye KJ !
Those demonstrators had the hell run out/beat out of them by magazine testers...
I have my Dads 69 Lincoln Continental MK iii . Rides like your on a cloud and will sit you back in the seat at a red light. And have surprised afew people at those lights.
Ill give you a like.......make a video for us please....
With the music I'm waiting for Godzilla to make an appearance.
We were a Chevy family while I was growing up but I loved this LTD and it's hide-away headlights. Of course I never said that in front of dad - lol.
'69 Caprice also had hideaway headlights...
Not sure of the Ford designer's nane, but he was originally at Ponitac, maybe Bunkie Netson?
Pontiac also had hide away head lights and that silly bird beak that was on the TBird, and the 70s LTD.
My grandma had a 1971 Galaxie coupe, but it only had a 351-2V. Great car!
I love old Fords
I had a blue one when I was in high school. I would love to have a new one now!
480 lb ft at 2800 rpm. Torque starts coming on at a lot less than 2800, too. Like 1500 RPM.
@PHOENIX RISING This was essentially the "Thunder-Jet" 429 Thunderbird engine. Lots of performance potential. Even the stock cams and compression ratios were pretty decent in 1969 for all American V8s. You could really warm these engines over nice if it wasn't in such a boat of a car.
@PHOENIX RISING torque curve of a turbo, except the turbo motor doesn’t come alive until tomorrow.
Reminds me of a '70 Marquis from years gone by - wasn't a tire it couldn't melt!
71 Galaxie 500 . 429 4bbl dropped it in 2 ND at 80 mph took off like a scolded dog . Woke my girl friend up she said shit this thing's fast. Lol
The 1966 LTD and Galaxie 500 were the best looking, most comfortable Fords, IMO. I had a 66 Galaxie 500 two-door hardtop that was fast and pretty nice.
I totally agree! My parents had a pigeon egg blue 1967 Custom 500 that was beautiful. It was a high-end baseline model.
I remember helping my father wash, wax and vacuum his 76 LTD. That car is even bigger when you're 9 years old! lol
These Cars were ment lo last!
Not in the Northeast, they rotted out to nothing in just a few years.
No they weren't.
They were assembled like crap, rusted in months, and the interior plastics cracked and faded in no time.
@@Incomudro1963 really, were the Chevrolets any better
I've had mine for almost 30yrs and it's never let me down. Daily driven
That was the first car I ever drove, same color even, my uncle stopped and said you are driving, he had to stack some books on the seat so I could see over the dash!
I drove one of those in high school back in '83. I paid 300 bucks for it. The frame rotted, so I cut it up with a torch and scrapped it.
1:53 - Oh man, that gasoline thing makes more torque than my Ford 7.3 diesel, and 30 yrs older.
4:51 - Looks like a bodybuilder running on stilts...
I had a 1969 LTD with the 429, My mother told me one day "I hate that car", when I inquired as to why, she replied, "I was going down the (35MPH) road and when I looked down at the speedometer, I was going 85!"
Stock muscle car drifting in slomo, couldn't expect more from this video.
I drive a 2010 Crown vic that will mop the floor of this whale! But that doesnt take away the Love I have for old Fords! I Love od cars and the nastalgia is awesome!!
One way to reduce brake heat is to just lock em up as quickly as possible. Of course - you will get more tire heat (and smoke) that way.
And no stopping...
Dad had a new 69 Merc Marquis with the 429"Thunderjet" and 2.80 open axle with the dual exhaust option. Pretty good power but the wheel covers flew off if you tried to corner hard. It tipped the scales at 4400 lbs.
At least they used to tell about the car instead of telling you how many JD Power awards it’s “won”
Or the level of internet connectivity...
My Mom had a 4 door. Loved it.
159 feet from 65mph with fully locked tires isn't too bad , considering you're relying on the hard as stone tires to provide the stopping friction.
Great looking car.
Bud could make snow sound exciting to Eskimos.
If that car had something like 3.27 or 3.55 gears if not 3.73, it would have ran a lot harder, probably needed a super tune as well.
Funny part of this is that most of these cars did not come with a 429. The 351 was most likely the standard engine for this car if there was no special order.
No 351 was even an option in the 1969 LTD. The 302 was the base engine and the 390 was probably the most common that year.
Yeah. My mistake. My Dads' 69 LTD had a 302 and I doubt that he ordered that engine.
Ours had a 429 2V, no special order. It was fairly respectable for a lead sled.
I was surprised to see the mid to late 60s full size Galaxie 4 door cars could be ordered with the 427; there is a video of a station wagon (maybe '67) with a 427/4-speed. I know, lots of the 2-door Galaxies had the 'R' code, but imagine the sleeper of a 4-door or station wagon with that engine back in the day! I am sure--very, very rare, but they do exist. Come to think of it, a select very few (like 3 or 4) of the full-size Chrysler (as in corporation, which includes Plymouth and Dodge) were Hemi 4 door sedans. Those might have been special order for law enforcement, but that would be cool bidding on one in the mid-70s at a fleet auction. I would be happy with the '71 Polara ex-CHP sedan had I been old enough to bid on one!
@Laurie Sarno I vaguely recall reading something about that in an article. It may have been mentioned in the same article about the FBI Hemi sedans; something like 3 or 4 cars made for the FBI with Hemis. I would think that more people would have talked about CO patrol cars installed with Hemis over the years if true. Perhaps some hot-rodder sheriff had a couple cars converted to 426s? They would have been engines from wrecked cars is my guess as I am fairly certain crate engine Hemis would not have been plentiful. Or, the cars were experimental cars from Chrysler?
Probably filmed at the Grattan, MI race track
The 1971 LTD was a sharp car.
Watching these videos I noticed Bud always has a comment about how hot the brakes get. If there was ever a downfall of old cars it was the inadequate braking tech for anything but normal, leisurely, easy driving. Even with front disc brakes, braking technology was no match for heavy cars with lots of power, lots of weight up front, and soft suspensions at high speed. You need larger discs, Not just larger disc brakes 4 piston vented calipers all around if you're going to slam the brake pedal on a 4400 lb car from 70 mph all day.
These old car tests are so satisfyingly cheesy.😁😁
Does this car have coils all the way around, or leafs in the rear?
Pretty sure these had coils in the rear like other full size Fords at the time. My Dad bought a 69 new with a 302. By 1973 the thing was completely rusted out and went to the junkyard with only 43,000 miles on it after he bought his 74 gran torino station wagon.
They had coils in the rear. I had a '69 when I was 18 in 1983, and it too had the rear frame rot out. It was fun while it lasted, but the weakened frame couldn't handle my abuse for long, and I cut it up and scraped it... I had a '74 T-Bird with a 429. It was rotten but would fry the tires. It met its demise as a derby car. Good times...
@Laurie Sarno Awesome. Thanks.
@Laurie Sarno I used to have a 60 Ford T-bird with the 430 Lincoln motor in it. Boy that thing was fast.
@Laurie Sarno wow. That TBird 430 was a 6 sec 0-60 car.
I wonder what was the most common engine for the 1969 Ford LTD? My guess would be the 390ci 2 barrel V8.
Doobie1975 I believe so. Now that was a good motor.
You would find the Ford 351 Winsdor, VIN code H; the 390 2V, VIN code Y; and the 429 2V, VIN code K; and lastly the 429 4V, VIN code N. The most common were the 351W and the 390. The tester in this video was loaded with every option, beautiful car.
302 was the most common, that was standard equipment for the base model Ltd
@@DumPhuc Is that right? I seem to see more of these cars with the 390's.
i think burt reynolds is what made alot of them sell from the movie "white lightning"
Maybe not off the line. But on the highway that thing could pass anything it wanted to.
I have a 69 ford custom 2 door sedan, a non-500 model, 240 straight 6, so much room in the engine bay to work on it haha
back then,a really hot car could break a 14 sec 1/4 mile. now just about anything is that fast
I remember those days, no worries gas was .21- .29 cents for leaded regular.
A 2.80 rear end is great for cruising the interstates and highways, but it isn't great for great acceleration.
"As my old daddy said when I drove him (sic) to the local cigar store, 'Why would you want to KILL me with the ILLEGAL TOBACCO DRUG!'"
Shame they didn't test the '69 XL GT 4294V 4 speed with like 3.27-3.73 gears. The acceleration and handling would have been much better.
Wait a minute, a 280 rear end gear was good for getting off the line! 🤪
I had a 69 convt with the 302, slow but fun car and miss is it. huge,,, interior !
The 69 ,was the finest LTD ever.
The 69 & 70 Ford LTDs in my opinion were the best out of all LTDs from other years very unique 71s & 72s should have stayed the same until 73 but 73 & 74 should have been different from what they turned out to be and that 73 - 78 run was just too long I know after 74 they changed the front end & back ends on the coupes & sedans 75 - 78 and just the front on wagons 75 - 78 Those instrument panels and station wagon bodies had a super long run fro 73 - 78 way too long
I think 1970 was the last great year for full-sized Ford’s. After that, just like Chevrolet, they got pretty vanilla. The 1965-1968 models were my favorite, especially the 1967.
My dad had one of these in maroon. It got 4 mpg of premium. Fast though.
4? I think you'd better research that. You are telling everyone that a Cross country 45 foot bus gets better mileage? I"m not thinking so.
@@styldsteel1 My dad owned one. I got to drive it and pay for the gas. How much more research do you want. I assume big mouth that you also owned one.
@@roberthart557 You still have no idea what your talking about. I don't need any research at all. I own two Mark V Continentals, both with the 460 Ci, and they do not get 4 MPG, and you are still saying a 19 ton bus gets better mileage. So much inaccuracy on this internet, and you are a major part of it.
@@styldsteel1 neighbour owned a school bus with a 460 and he was making 10- 12 ...if he did 4mpg with the car he was probably leaking
@@ragimundvonwallat8961 either that or he was flooring the gas pedal to get to 25 mph.
4300 lbs is a light weight for a full size car because the compact Jeep Cherokee weighs 4500 lbs.
Only in America where you can drive your couch! As a youngster I didn't care for the big floaty Fords and the like, I guess because I had driven my uncles GTO.
Imagine how this thing would run with a 3:42 gear
Need a 4.56 gear for a strong 1/4 mile...
480 lbs of torque at 2800 rpms?? That’s some serious low end torque...hell thats like diesel level of torque.
That's a Gross torque rating. Beginning in 1972 the ratings changed to SAE Net values which are how vehicles are rated nowadays. My guess is that the old 429 would be rated about 380 lb/ft net torque and about 270 net HP.
Yea it don't compare to today's ratings. They used gross power output figures. Meaning, the engine ran without accessory drives, no air filter, open pipes, the most optimal race grade fuel, and tuned to make as much power as possible.
Good 'ol Buddy "The Bud" Budemann.
A 280 differential is good for getting of the line? Are you kidding!
Bud didn't know very much about cars. Sorry, but it's true. He was more of a "press reporter" kind of car guy.
scdevon I love the show and am grateful for it. After all the episodes I’ve seen I was just really surprised to hear him make a comment like that.
It was a luxury car. They intentionally put 2.8 gears so it would take off smooth, with less engine noise.
I wouldn't have bought it if I was alive then, because I don't want a smooth comfortable boat.
It's similar to a Cadillac 500; it hauls fine, but wont burn the tires.
I wonder how many of those were sold?
They sold a ton in the station wagons. We had a 390 wagon back in the day.
A bunch, not sure of the true number. But I do know that Ford built over 900,000 Galaxy’s in 1964. Might put things in a little perspective.
@@truckr74 They made 998,000 Gaxaxie/LTD in 1969
Horses Running Around Every Where
Need to show the 69 police interceptor 429 4-speed 11 1/2 to 1 compression which adjustable and studded guide plates in rockers it was downright nasty never got the credit it deserved, and would smoke a big block Chevy any day of the week, the engines block numbers for the Interceptor are c9ae very rare
The hubcaps on her weights like 40 lbs. each.
They did weigh a lot. I have three of them yet from when I was a teenager. I bought a LTD for $150 in 1989. The hubcaps would fly off if I cornered real hard at times. One time I went around a corner and one flew off past a guy walking. It hit a bush just behind him chopping a part of it off. I did not have the balls to stop and get the hubcap back and took the others off.
429 cubic acres lol! Bud’s 😆 Funny
This car's numbers would have been a LOT better with a 3.00, 3.25 or 3.50 gear. I find it kinda hard to believe that it weighed 4300, my 71 Ford Galaxie 500 with a 351W weighed 4040, I think the 429 wouldn't have added 300 pounds. 150 lbs maybe.
Since when is a 2.80:1 rear end a good choice for getting off the line? Those are highway crusing gears.
The love boat!!!
Ford went all the way to the years 2010+ before they decided that how a car handles was important. Ford even used rear drum brakes on the 2017 Focus, Imagine that.
Would love this in a rag top
A 2.80 rear end? Imagine the difference with a 3.27 ratio!
or 3.73......whoopie
Hail.......America.......Hail
69 LTD weighs 4300 pounds. So does a 2020 Shelby GT500 Mustang. WTF?
2.80 good off the line?? Gms 2.73 and Chrysler's 2.45 were dismal...2.80 can't be much better.
Upgrade the shit and make it to 440 hp. Your old farts will be crapping in their graves