Ducati's Streetfighter V2 is easier and more engaging than the bigger V4 | MCN Review
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Ducati’s new £14,995 Streetfighter is a naked Panigale V2 with virtually nothing taken away…except for the fairing. And that’s a very good thing because Bologna’s ‘baby’ superbikes have always had a sublime balance of power and handling - a bit like Suzuki’s old GSX-R750.
The Ducati Streetfighter V2 follows in the footsteps of its V4 sister - a lary, high tech tour de force with a 205bhp MotoGP-derived engine, but that’s also a bike that operates at such an otherworldly level it only makes sense on track. This is where the smaller version comes in.
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Hmmm....tempting...very tempting....thanks for the great review!
C’mon Mr Flyer, you can do all that on the mighty wing whilst in sumptuous comfort 😉
Part exchange for your Panigale? Have you checked the new Aprilia Tuono Factory?
Gonna need a bigger garage 😉
For god’s sake don’t review this bike Mr Flyer - I have a nasty habit of buying what you review (V2 & 9T so far….)
@@stephentalent You wouldn’t be disappointed and I’m pretty sure he’d end up buying one as well lol
I will never buy this type of bike, but I ended up watching this just to hear Neevesy’s review. 10/10 as usual
Please explain why
@@Christian-xc9bh just a matter of taste. I don’t like naked bikes, and super nakeds even less. I personally prefer retros, cruisers or adventure bikes. Maybe is because my riding school had cb500 and it traumatised me 🙂
He is quite the reviewer. I take his input into consideration before buying a bike. He was a main deciding factor when I pulled the trigger in my Svartpilen 701. He said it was in his top 3 most fun bikes to ride and his only input was they should have put a smaller wheel up front with proper tires. It’s in the shop getting both right now! Haha!
Beautiful machine. This makes more sense than the V4 Streetfighter. Yes it's pricey [as are all Ducati's] but god, I am so tempted by this bike.
Simply Awesome. Thank you. Just mentioning Foggy brings back memories of his famous crash at Phillip Island in the 90’s. It was my home Racetrack, and I was about 200 metres behind him when he came off at a section of the track that I hadn’t seen before or since. 👍😎🇦🇺
The quality of your reviews just keeps getting better and better. Nice work MCN
Very nice camera work and angles
This is the review I've been waiting for since the reveal! You guys are the best, thank you! Definitely my next bike, my old streetfighter 848 was my favorite.
I still have my 2014 SF848, I’m still in love with her. Something about that trellis frame.
@@ride4funnomg103 good for you and im glad you still own it! selling mine was my biggest regret and now thankfully I have an option to redeem myself lol
2013 and 2015 SF 848 here… red and black. They are amazing
@@99names16 couldn't agree more !
I always lusted after the 848 Streetfighter, now I have the modern version to drool over. Damn you MCN!!
Currently an 848 SF owner and this bike is definitely my next bike!!! Beautiful!
Great review! Your delivery is always on point. Thank you!
As always, a superb review! Thanks.
The best reviews in the business!
Top notch review on a dream bike. Great editing 👌
I’ve been waiting for your review Michael. Looks the perfect bike for me
What a great review of a stunning bike.
Soothing review, easy on the ears and old brain. 👌🙂👍
More reporters/reviewers could learn a thing or 2 from your style.
Always looking forward to more Neeves content
Thanks. Great review!
I love the bike, I really do and would consider one. However I sold my Panigale V2 last year due to having had 3 reasonably serious warranty issues in 2k miles but much more importantly the fact that in summer heat the bike was simply unusable, it’s a good 10-20% hotter than the 959, even when back to backing with a mates 899 that ran over 10 degrees cooler, the bike just became too hard to use in anything but cold conditions. I would urge anyone to test ride a V2 on a warm day and make sure you can live with it. I bought mine in feb, had one of the first and by June I was struggling. I’m still gutted even now, I thought the Panigale was a keeper
street figghter should be better never rode the v2 street fighter but my v4 specialle is hot af in the summer on thailand summer road but on track at speed not so bad which is normally where i ride the v4 street fighter s alot better the lack of faring really does help with the heat not sure about the v2 street
what did you buy after Panigale? I am considering Ducati Panigale V2 but also afraid of heat issue...
Funny how we categorise 150hp as pretty ‘tame’ now. My 998s FE puts out around 130 ish and back in the early 2000’s it was considered quite a beast!
I guess now with the electronics…..
Electronics go a long way to taming modern higher powered bikes. I rode a 998 around the IoM in the Centinery TT and loved the way it handled but it was cripplingly uncomfortable and hard on the suspension. Managed a quicker time on (the then) new to me Aprilia RSVR which surprisingly I much prefered despite it's lesser 128bhp at the crank. It seemed to have more mid range stomp, (gruntier than a warthog eating truffles) sounded amazing and was way more comfy and turned in more like a race bike. It was that experience which switched me onto Aprilias from Ducatis for the road and despite riding much faster machinery since then, those last non electronically neutered visceral vee twins remain etched in my memory as the most rewarding bikes I ever road as you had to work harder and they didn't flatter poor riding as much as modern stuff does. In fact I still have a 2001 rsvr and will never sell that bike as it's part of me now. I could be very temoted to a pinagali vee 2 which I consider as Ducati's all time best road bike and possibly the most reliable engine they've ever made too.
@@ReferenceFidelityComponents Yes of course electronics play a long part to taming higher powered bikes. But my point was that 150hp now is not considered 'higher powered' as in 2021 we are in a world of 200+hp bikes (My H2 has been remapped to put out 260hp to the bike tyre, with a Vandeom H2R race system on it, chain changes on the supercharger, changes to clutch plates and springs) - without a lot of electronic intervention that would be very difficult to ride on the road. Its putting out more than twice the horsepower of the 998S FE at the crank.
Thanks for sharing your views of the Ducati compared to an Aprilla and how you moved to Aprilla. My friend also moved to Aprilla at the time and interestingly he had nothing but engine issues - which is almost ironic considering that Ducati of the 1990s were considered very unreliable. In fact I owned a 916 in the 90's after watching Carl Fogarty win races for most of my youth and the indicators cut out on a long journey to Cork in Ireland, when it started to Rain. We can all thank Audi for their input into the electrics after they bought Ducati as part of the VW Group. I was quite happy to pick up a testastretta 998 Final Edition a while ago, to keep as a collectors piece, very hard to find now!)
Aprilla made some great bikes using the Rotax engine in the day, but its sadly not a bike now that has increased in value or seen as 'iconic' - certainly the prices for my 998 S FE have gone up and you often see a few selling for close to £30,000. We live in interesting times with more available, reliable bikes open to a wide audience of riders with different tastes.
@@theonlyredspecial H2 with 260hp?
Man that's so powerful. What mods did you get?
Don’t forget chassis design has made more power mechanically easier to manage aside from the electronics.
Love this guy, he’s always talking about how good my 890 Duke R is!
Hi massive fan! What would be a good comparison is Streetfighter V4 to Streetfighter V2 in real wold conditions, on the road and maybe on a very small track to see what one can do on the road.
Waiting for these to come to Australia. I have an aprilia rsv4 and harley breakout however this would fill the void in the middle perfectly..
amazing review, might be my next bike
Michael, great video as always. Is the riding position somewhere between the Monster and the Supersport or is it very much like the Monster?
Any plans for long term review for this SFV2?
Best reviewer
The V4 does have a "reduced power" mode, which drops peak power to 120hp or so. I have mine setup so the Street mode uses reduced power. The Sport and Race modes use full power, with Race mode having the max throttle sensitivity. Seems like the best of both worlds.
Street mode when cruising around town, and full power modes when conditions allow.
Hows the torque on that reduced power setting ? Thanks for sharing
@@heart.of.ease.3659 I don’t know what the peak torque number is in reduced power mode, it’s not listed in the manual. But it feels very tame compared to full power mode. You can really notice the difference.
Reduced power mode doesn’t completely solve the low speed snatchy throttle that was mentioned in the V2 review. Sounds like neither the V2 or V4 are great at very low speeds. But I don’t spend much time in city traffic on my V4 so I can live with it.
@@NoName76554 Thanks for your reply, I'd be curious to know if it's up there around the 75ftlbs torque range to make it worth considering!
For all of my Ducati I'd change the front Sprocket to a 14t from the stock 15t and add the Ducati Spacers Throttle Body Spacer to eliminate the play in the Throttle, those Two mods completely transform and smooth out any low speed city issues. A must have for any ducati 😊
Any specific comments on this bike vs a Street Triple RS? I know they’re chalk and cheese in characters but anything at all? Would love to hear your opinion between the two. Thank you again for this lovely review. Cheers.
I wonder how it compares to the Triumph Speed Triple RS 1200 regarding handling in the road and track?
Thanks God I will buy one for myself
Hows the heat management? I’m guessing you didnt’t do too much slow speed town work.?
yep ordered one a week ago… been told though i have to wait till March… :(
How does it wheelie though? Coming from a Monster 1200s.
just ordered mine yesterday after watching this review can’t wait. O felt the v4 was way too much for the road. This is perfect
How do you like it? Is it too hot on it in the summer months and hot days in general? Any other complaints? Considering buying one.
@@bokiNYC ended up buying an s1000rr instead epic machine
Isn't there anything that can help with the Heat? Like maybe a different coolant. Redlline mixed with Distilled water perhaps. Or open up the air around the engine some how.?
When's MCN going to review the 2022 Tmax?
V2 Streetfighter or Tuono V4? The price is the same here in Sweden.
Seems like an excellent bike. Not sure why it doesn't have cruise control though at this price point.
Been waiting for this review. Nice breakdown. Thanks Mike. Tuono v4 or Streetfighter v2 for the streets?
Tuono mate. V4>>>V2, no matter how good Ducati can be at building awesome V2’s. Now, if you compare the Tuono with the V4S, it will likely come 2nd to the Duc.
BTW: why there's so little brake fluid in the front brake fluid container? Seemed like half full in ~3 minute mark.
How’s the heat stuck in traffic ?
when's mcn getting a 2022 tmax to review?
Whats the rev ceiling limit.???
I Want you to test a vitpilen 701.🔥👌
Partial twin spar frame? Which is better
One of my favourite current road bikes. I'm so glad that Ducati have recognised the need for a high performance vee twin as a better more useabke road bike than the race developed v4. Both Aprilia and Ducati's vee4 monster power machines are just too much for the road to be anything close on real world useable or sendible. Vee twins were always more in tune and ideally suited to road riding imho. I think I prefer the Panagali Vee twin which is simply sublime. They've all got too ecprnsive now sadly. Build quality on these new Ducatis is amazing.
Can this be a 2nd bike considering my first bike is monster 797😊
Can u compare it with monster 1200?
Great bike, great colour Red 🔴.
Weird question, what model is that suit?
MR. Neeve, Touno or v2 SF?
God this bike looks good from every angle
Another brilliant review. I agree, for that price you’d like to see at least cruise control included, maybe Ducati will offer that in a future update.
the V2 Comes with a Optional Addon Smart Device Package which has Bluetooth I think you missed this and optional GPS, The Smart Package is an Extra $430Aud Ducati Multimedia System with infotainment system that allows for the connection of smartphones, Ducati satellite navigators, and Ducati rider and passenger headsets via Bluetooth. The perfect accessory to make the most of all the comforts the bike has to offer. The V2 Also comes with 3 added Power Settings High Medium & Low ontop of the Sport Road & Wet. Also Heated Grips are an added Extra.
The V4s allready has 3 power settings next to the track, sport and tour setting so these are not added but existing features.
Is fuel gauge optional too?
@@01spec yes
@@01spec 😂😂👍
...the Streetfighteer V2 is the spiritual successor of the old Streetfighter... nicely in the middle... V2 is a nicer bike to ride on the ride compared to the SFV4.. agreed!
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Does it struggle to wheelie like v4
I've only ever owned a small monster but from what I've heard from other Ducati owners and my own experience, Ducatis hate going slow :)
I have two Ducatis and the engines definitely prefer to stay above 4800 RPM. I find I never use 6th gear except on the freeway over 75 mph. I don't mind revving at 5000 RPM in 3rd gear or 4th gear on surface streets. The engine just purrs along at the RPMs.
Still getting the v4
Why does the one ridden has wings while the one in the cinematics doesn't?
Still love my Tuono Factory 😁
How would old Ducati Monster 1100 stand against these new Ducati’s? I have one and it can easily wheelie with throttle on first and second gear and it has just 95hp. Wondering how those new bikes would feel with all that power. But I assume that power delivery is very restricted on first 3 gears even though it has 150hp, because even old air cooled monster doesn’t feel that slow up to 110mph.
The old air cooled, two valve Monsters have much more low down strength. Just where it's needed on the road. More fun, engaging and great for 'off the throttle' wheelies . The newer panigale engines were made as short stroke, oversquare, high revving machines for racing. They are still exciting in a different way. However for me I prefer the air cooled bikes. Sadly emissions laws have killed them off and the new 1100 scrambler is not really the same. I would keep hold of your old Monster if I were you 🙂
It’s only $3k cheaper in the US. Hard for me to justify going for this over the full fat V4.
cheaper insurance, gas, tires, less wear and tear and maybe you just don't want 200+ hp on a naked (since you can hardly use that power without a fairing anyway)...
@@mark.hess2 If you’re worried about costs related to parts, tires, and has, you are probably shopping the wrong brand and bike. You can use that power on the road, often, but not for too long in a sustained capacity. $3k for all that added performance? How cheap are you?
where is it only 3k cheaper lol for me its closer to 8k more
@@jos1243 Guess I'll add to the convo lol just checked and it now sit's at 4k more for the base model V4
Anyone have an opinion on this or the monster as far as comfort goes? I road the Diavel and I liked it, but I just like the way these look more. I’m a 6’2 230lb former Harley rider. Looking to switch to a sport bike. Just want some feedback from people with more experience.
Monster should be a little more comfortable
I'm torn between this and the Street Triple RS currently. I'm done racing track so want something fun but more comfortable. These new Ducatis are really appealing to me. I'm glad they came out with this v2, as I just never saw the purpose of the v4 on the streets.
I agree. As beautiful as I think the SFV4 is, I never understood it's purpose. The SFV2 though....now that makes total sense. I just ordered one. If you're considering the Street Triple RS, give the Speed Twin a test ride. I just bought a 2022 and 2000 plus miles later, I just love it. Coming from an R6, its all the fun and much more comfortable.
That’s cool, but it’s name is “street fighter” so how does that front bias weight and the “fall in corner” thing work there where the speeds don’t rise.
What would you prefer on the track ? This or the Street Triple RS?
This or a aprilia tuono v4. For the street . The pris is the same for me in my country.
This is one bike I'd consider leaving my MT10 for, but the price/power/features triangle is too difficult for me to square...
Is that Steering damper came as standard with the bike or add ons?
standard.
How does it compare to say a GSXR750, or Others?
Do you think that this bike would have a more or less comfort seating position than a 2020 Speed triple rs?
Yes. Better than that.
So if i had 10 to 15 grand to spend on a bike at 62 yrs old you would recommend this bike?
This or supersport 950s?
Super nakeds have jumped the shark. This makes more sense than the V4. For my skill level though something like an MT-09 is it
What a great review. Why would I pay all that money for this?
I love the reviews you guys do.
So if money is no object…. Streetfighter V2 or V4?
Depends on where you live and what type of riding you plan to do, in our area a v4 is useless due to the fact there's no local roads to use that power without getting arrested and all of our race tracks are too small to utilize the power. Someone would be better off with a v2 and an akra than a v4 even all modded out. Both are amazing machines. 😊
V2 is not any lighter, same weight, but less power. You have street mode with reduced power on v4 if you really need to. No reason to go v2 other than money
@@bbbonthemoon V4 it is!
Now do I want standard or S. HHahahaha
@@heart.of.ease.3659 I kinda agree.
I live in SoCal. We have street lights every 10yds. Canyons are crowded. And cops are looking for reasons to get you.
But dang my ego wants that V4. Hahahaha
@@HBChandler haha yeah, I actually went from owning an 848, to a 1098, to a monster 1200r, then back down to a 2019 Supersport 939S, after the 848, the Supersport S was my favorite bike and I was faster on the local track with that than any other. You won't regret staying in the middle weight, most experienced track riders up here are like me and we downgraded from the Litre bikes because it's more fun to go through the gears. Hope that can help with your decision! At the end it's all in your cornering skills to see who's really the quickest 😊
Strong contender for the hottest looking bike around.
Question remains,
For it's price, is it really better than a Duke 890R or Street Triple RS ?
Depends right, expain better? If heat is a problem, then STRs and Duke are better, if you looking for smooth engine, then the oteher two wins again, if you want the coolest looking one then Ducati wins, if you want most powerful, then ducati wins, if you want the most economical then the duke wins, and the rs and v2 are about the smae fuel consumption. Dunno , for me I think (price aside) ducati is the best of them.
Self bleeding MC? Is it an improvement from years past where you have to bleed them pretty frequently?
Man, those UK and Eurotrash giant license plates - make sure the camera can read you at all times!
Been debating to buy the V2 or V4. I don’t understand the point about the V4 having too much power. I currently ride a 200hp ZX14r and never thought it was too much. Worried it’ll feel slow compared to my Ninja as I would be selling the Ninja to fund this. Anyone understand what Neevesy, and numerous other journalists, mean about it being too much for the road?
I have a GSXR Hayabusa over 100 mph in first gear you're talking to me about too much power LOL but I do love this bike more upright more comfortable naked bikes to me are more appealing for the streets when I ride my Hayabusa I am so beat up and I was thinking about getting bigger Sprocket in the back to take advantage of the power at the low end
@@richardcerritelli9657I definitely don’t need a smaller sprocket as it will power wheelie all the way through 1st & 2nd gears without even full throttle.
@@ryanmalone2681 no I'm talking about my bike the Hayabusa totally geared differently from a naked bike naked bikes a geared low my bike goes over 100 in first gear I was thinking about trading it in for a Naked Bike so much easier to work on just a better bike for the streets
@@richardcerritelli9657 Yeah I get it. My point is, if you have tall gearing, 200hp, and still can’t put it all down without practically laying on top of the handlebars, smaller gear ratios and a more upright position isn’t going to help you out the power down so it’s not going to be noticeably faster.
I like it more than the current Monster too...
I’ve heard this before… but man, I want the v4 if I’m shelling out all the $
Mid range capacity bikes are where the main action is these days. Main competitor to this bike for me is the KTM. Get a 890 basic with the tricked up electronic tech pack, akropovich pipe offers plenty of road performance. Interesting to see a head to head with this Streetfighter and 890 KTM.
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What's the difference between this and the Monster? Seems like these bikes are in the same market.
The monster is more of a standard style bike whereas the streetfighter is a superbike chassis and engine (in this case a super supersport)with upright bars and without the fairings.
@@benchaggaresmusic Gotcha. Thanks. I guess my follow up is why would someone buy a Duc Monster over a SF V2? Seems like these two bikes would compete over the same market.
@@motosagela there's around a 5k price gap between them so that's a factor and insurance will also play a role in which bike to choose
I thought About buying this V2 but I don’t like the torque curve
So bought a monster , till 8000 rpm it has more torque
I like the looks of the streetfighter but I don’t want it to ride it in first and second gear al the time
@@supertjeduc in that case another good choice would have been the 848 streetfighter
Shoot out with duke 890r and mt09sp
I love Ducati looks but I still dont trust their quality control and reliability.
My riding buddy bought a Panigale V2 and in less than 1000 miles issues with the clutch and already going back to the dealer.
I've owned almost 14 Ducati's from 2007 until now, most of them the new models. Their reliability isn't an issue at all, could've been either a manufacturing defect which can happen to any manufacturer or the way your friend broke in the bike. Hope you reconsider !
I've owned Ducati's for 20+ years (currently a Monster 1200s) and I've always had an excellent experience. Find a good dealer - even if a bit of travel is needed - and you'll be in fine shape.
@@atastefortheroad4475 Thats good to hear. I've come so close to buying one but because of dealer support where I live I've never pulled the trigger. But I'd love to own this bike or the Panigale V2 as a track bike.
@@atastefortheroad4475 👍
@@IDontKnow-bb6mt if you do decide to purchase one hopefully you can find a good dealer. The main thing with them is to make sure you follow the break in as recommended, they can see your data logging during that time and some have had their warranty voided by just thrashing on the bike. Apart from that, if you get an exhaust through the dealer it's also full warranty, and lastly if you live in a very dusty area, don't install the sprint filter and instead use the stock paper filter because the sprint racing filters have issues sealing and keeping out the fine dust, which leads to excessive oil consumption and eventually a new motor sooner haha. Apart from these aspects you'll be gold !
Is it as Fun as the 890 Duke R..🤔🤔🤔🤔
This or the hypermotard...any thoughts?
Same problem
Budweiser paint scheme.
Always enjoy your reviews Michael, …but somehow you seem a little underwhelmed by this?
Could it be too neutered?? Electronic torque limiting maps gears 1 to 3, looks like a massive mid range dip on the dyno charts?
Pricey considering it’s lacking cruise control, heated grips etc.
One question for you, which would you pick,….this new V2 Streetfighter or the Aprilia Tuono V4 Factory 🤔…. I think I know which one you’d go for 😉
I’d pay for neeves to do one to one coaching all day long top easy going nice guy meet him once at Ron haslam race school
154cv/152cv
Ducati Sf v2 or Suzuki Katana ?
this is a joke right?
@@Notoxic30 Katana is better in all sens ..
So how much cheaper is this than the V4 ?
5 k
To be fair - V4 engine is too much for non faired bike. This V2 should be fine, bearing in mind that torque curve starts quite low. Best reviews as usual. You and Chris are top dogs. Best regards from Moscow Russia
The only italian word you need to remember: Tuono. Smoother down low, better sounding, wind protection, and more HP ...
Which competes with the V4(s), not the V2.
@@sandorbergsma beats both and costs less than the V2. Tuono is KING 👑
Choppy it’s a Ducati 😂🤣😂 always expect that
A 14t front Sprocket and the Ducati Spacers Throttle Body Spacer kit eliminate any Throttle issues at low speeds. 😊
✨😍😍😍😍🥰🥰
I had a V4 SF, wish I would have looked at this V2. V4SF is just to much.