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Fujifilm 16-80mm A Year After... Let's be clear
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ส.ค. 2024
- Why the hate for this lens?
Let's try to debunk some of the fake news around this travel lens from Fuji.
The lens was released a bit more than a year ago, and i bought it on day one as i needed it for a photography workshop Iceland.
I've been using this lens relentlessly in every possible condition and without any additional care.
Too many people talk about stuff they don't know.
This doesn't come as a surprise, we all know that, and the world is full of knowitall people ready to stalk about everything, with no clue.
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I’ve owned this lens for over 2 years now and have done reviews of it too. As you rightly say, it’s great for what it was designed for. Primes will most always be better than zoom lenses, so it’s pointless to compare it with them. Your pictures at the end demonstrate that its more important to have a good eye for composition and light, rather than being a pixel peeper and obsessed with edge to edge sharpness! So thanks for putting this out there! Cheers
Thank you!
I have just bought this lens, second hand in mint condition. Mainly for landscapes, nature, and hiking in general. Although it was a bargain, I was a little bit worried after all the reviews and comments about it on the web. But after watching your video I decided to take the risk and go ahead.
I must say that I fully agree with you. It has been a game changer for my nature photography. It's perfect? No, it is not, but I can do almost anything I need in the nature with it. In real conditions sharpness still hasn't been an issue for me. Maybe distortion in raw at 16mm? But its close up capabilities are wonderful, the wide range, the weather resistance, and the OIS, oh, the OIS!.... I pair it with a light xc 50-230 and a 12 mm samyang and I have in my backpack absolutely anything I need for nature in a very compact and competent set!!
Thank you for your reviews!!
Thank you! It means a lot to me!
It was my second lens, I’m in my 8th lens now and I still use and love my 16-80 f/4 it’s just that good.
The 16-80 is one of 7 lens I have.....and the one I use the most. Great for video. Acceptable and often time incredible image quality...depending on if I use it correctly. I use it from around 20mm to 65mm. Usually at F5 to F8.
Prime lens I have...the Zeiss 12mm Touit 2.8...the Fugi 16 1.4....the Viltrox 23 1.4.....The Viltrox 33 1.4....the Viltrox 56 1.4 the Viltrox 85 1.8........the Mitakon Speedmaster 35mm f/0.95 Mark II Lens.....and the one zoom.....the Fugi 16-80.
When I travel....I take all the lens....but the 16-80 is on the most.
I agree with you Luca....the 16-80 is a great lens for what it is.
Thank you Steve! I have or have had all your lenses but the mitakon...
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography The mikaton is one sweet lens. Boka like no other with a very sharp but very small focal point at .095. A hard lens to use until you get the hang of it but the angry photographer is right....a great lens.
Just let people bash this lens so I can find one 2nd hand for cheap!
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I picked one up for £500 from LCE second hand (brand new) they have loads of them in stock at the moment because people got it as a kit option with their xt3 or 4 and decided not to keep them, crazy!
I don't get it either. Good for you then
Yesss, delete video
Probably the best and most honest video I have seen regarding this lens. As you already stated most people that bash it probably don’t own it they just go by what other people say about it. Thanks!!
Thank you!
Stunning images, thanks for doing this review, I have this lens and completely agree with you. I am not a pixel peeper that blows up pictures looking for soft corners, I am a photographer who looks at the complete picture. It is quite distressing to hear some of the negative opinions on this lens as I fear people hesitate to buy this lens and are missing out on one of the best all round lenses Fuji make. My travel kit is 10 24, 16 80, 70 300, all have ois, wr and I can use all my 72m filters if I attach my 67 72 step up ring to the 70 300. Thanks again, love your work, just subscribed.
Thank you! We share almost the same travel kit. I have the laowa 9mm instead of the 10-24
Well informed analysis of this great lens. Have used and tested nearly every Fuji lens. Currently have the 16-55 on an X-T4 which I initially used with. 16-80 and now returning to a X-T3 and 16-80. One to save weight and balance of lens and camera (the 18-55 is very front heavy. Optically slightly superior but not enough to keep it. For the scenarios you mention and the excellent pictures you demonstrated at the end you made a great argument for that lens. Well done. Why do people go on forums to find out about lens and camera performance. Both there and on social media which I have scrapped just regurgitate repeated cliches from who knows where. Use the lens and give it a try you will not be disappointed. For the very small number of vloggers who are out there don’t buy this lens. It is quite simple.
Thanks for your feedback, it is very much appreciated
Great input, well said. People need to worry less about pixels and more about making compelling photos.
Your amazing shots are the best argument for this lens.
Thank you!
Thanks for the video. Just ordered this lens to use while bicycle touring around the world as my main video lens. Your comments about it have given me more confidence in my purchase, can't wait to try it out!
You'll love it
Used this on a trip recently and it was revolutionary, really cool lens. Really refreshing to have a lens that can really do anything, and allow you to just enjoy photographing.
I'm watching this waiting for my second copy, and looking at your awesome photos, I really can't wait! My first copy was soft throughout the entire range, looked like it never fully got focus, and the bokeh was about 2x more out of focus on the top left corner versus top right - tried it with electronic shutter, with a timer, on a tripod but it was just a bad copy. It took me a while to realize that there must be some Quality Control issue. I just hope I get a good copy this time! Great video, thank you. In these times I get quite jealous of travel photos. :)
Thank you, I'm pretty sure your next copy is going to be good!
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography Just for anyone wondering if they should take the chance on a 2nd try: I got my 2nd copy today and it is excellent. Finally the lens I hoped for the 1st time around!
So happy to hear that!
I also had to sell my first copy as I believe one of the lens elements was incorrectly set. My second copy is good but in selling the old one and buying a new one, I lost about $900. FujiFilm need to get their quality control in hand.
People are catching on to this lens. There aren't too many flooding the second hand market, and the used prices stay high. It's worth the premium over the 18-55 for myself and is mostly glued to my camera. If you need to capture moving subjects in the evening/interiors, then pick something else. However, even for night shots, you can use the OIS to capture very low ISO / low shutterspeed still images without having to lug a tripod with you.
What’s your night time settings on this lens? New Fuji user here.
@@dylanwalsh4592 if you are looking to use this at night without a tripod. experiment to see the slowest shutter settings you can use. You should be able to use the lens at its widest aperture of F4 and 1/15 shutter speed or even slower. This will allow you to use lower ISO values and capture nighttime scenic shots. Of course moving objects will be blurred with slow shutter speeds but you can use that to creative effect.
Dylan, malfunkt told you pretty much everything and remember it is always about what you're talking picture of. There's no one seeing good for everything. It will all come together using your gear and understanding how it behaves
Just stumbled over you while researching for using this lens for timelapses. I think it is the perfect fit given the range of focal length. And your pictures at the end are proof enough that it is still the photographer that makes the difference. There is no such thing as inferior gear. Even if you use your mobile phone just to catch the moment.
Thanks a lot!
Thanks a lot for taking the time to do this video in English! Really appreciate the hard work
Thank you for your feedback!
Exactly my feelings about the lens. For what it was designed, it's very good. Well build, optically okay, nice size and functionality. For general purpose photography, it's plenty enough and I find it as great upgrade from 18-55.
Some reviewers have expectations that are probably not possible to meet. Perfect optics with brighter aperture will surely result in a lens that is huge and expensive. You expect top quality? Pick a prime of desired focal length. You want lens good enough for most applications? Get 16-80.
That's exactly what it is... I guess many people just expect perfection because it is hard to understand the challenges behind these "toys".
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography That's true. I find some similarities to cars: reviewers get crazy about sporty the car should handle...this results in big vans with stiff suspension. Or that even city car should be as fast as Lancia Delta Integrale :)
@@mattbite you nailed the example! 100% agreed
I could play with the Nikon, but it was a long time ago. Never tried the Sony/Zeiss.
I never said it's a lens never done before, the 24-120 range (105 at times) is well covered in almost every system. Nor I ever mentioned other systems as I don't have the knowledge to compare them, even though before settling in Fuji I used Nikon and Canon cameras and lenses for years (not the cheap ones, but the best in their lineup).
Bottom line, however, I still think the Fuji is a really good lens, although not perfect
I went out to buy the 16-55 brick but bought the 16-80 f4. Why? Because the focal range suited my needs better than the 16-55. Like you, I am happy with the 16-80. It has the range I need 95% of the time. It is sharp. The star bursts are astonishing. It is a wonderful lens (for me). The 16 -55 may be optically superior but at the age of 62 and 2 heart attacks it is not what I need. Thank you for your wonderfully balanced and sensible review and for expressing some common sense - which seems to be in short supply elsewhere!
Thank you for your feedback!
I use a Canon SX70 if I want superzoom and just cannot be bothered shuffling enormous lenses. Apologies to all those reaching for the smelling salts with my saying this. I do not use it indoors and it can be a tricky beast to handle with too many pixels but at least Canon still hanging on in there making something. I am getting a S10 which is bundled with the 16-80 at the same price as the the 18-55 but £50 less cashback. Even if the 80mm is not razor sharp it is academic to compare with lenses with reach which is much less and if you want a wider zoom up against a fence with 18mm you cannot zoom with your feet. I fled from Fuji to m43 as there was no IBIS and they were saying it was not possible but looking forward to returning to Fuji especially with IBIS and 26mp. The m43 future is opaque as Panasonic are obviously not interested and time will tell if OM can get out anything really new.
I went rounds wondering if this lens was the right one. I sold all my Canon prime stuff and retired. Wife and I are traveling a lot now in retirement and I don't want to carry around all the tanks anymore. Getting too old for that. I'm totally scaling down from my 5D and all the heavy primes along with the 70 200 2.8 zoom which weighs 500 pounds after shooting for an hour. Great lens but too heavy and big now. I ordered this 16-80 lens and am waiting for it too arrive. Bought a fuji xs10 along with this lens and am going to be traveling light from now on. Looks like this is exactly what I am looking for. Small light travel setup. Great for family travel.
You'll love it. I downsized when I was 30, if that makes you feel better😅
I'm considering to go all in on Fuji instead of splitting time with my Z6, but the Nikon 24-120 has been making that really difficult. It's the best lens I've ever owned/used and really feels like the "bag of primes" saying implies (if at f4).
This lens is my only "worry", less because of what it is and more because of how outstanding the Nikon performs. It's really spoilt me. .
I can't really compare the two lenses as I have never used the Nikon one. I would love to help, but I avoid talking about things I don't know
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography honestly the more I read up about this lens, the more happy real world users I see for every grumpy lab test review and that usually says something. I'll probably buy it from one of the big vendors and use the 14 day returns period to its full extent to come to a conclusion 👀
That's definitely a good plan. I only have good things to say about it.
Completely agree, it is a great lens and covers a lot of ground. I like to just be able to sling the camera over my shoulder for a hike and not bring a whole photography bag with extra lenses. This lens is great for that.
And that's exactly what this lens is made for. Many don't get it, and keep comparing it with other lenses, but it's a mistake
Thanks so much for making this video. I've been considering upgrading from the little 18-55mm to this lens for a little while but was put off by all the hate you mention. I think finally people are coming round to the idea that actually it's a pretty useful lens. I've always found the 18-55 too restrictive at both ends so this should fit me perfectly. I'm convinced! Also, great shots - truly inspirational!
Thank you! I'm pretty sure you won't regret
I own this lens and it's a superb lens. The Canon 6D mark 2 and the Canon EOS RP were also 'bad' cameras with lots of 'hate' but after a very positive reviews from Ken Rockwell, all the haters became lovers. The 16-80 is a multi purpose lens with an outstanding ois. It's hard to find a second hand in the Netherlands because most owners are more than happy. Kind regards from the Netherlands. Good and honest review!!
Thank you! The recent history is full of examples such as those you mentioned, yet we keep doing the same mistake over and over again... Glad to hear many people understanding what this lens is about
Seasoned experience has no compare! Thank you for the practical review!
Thank you!
Great review! Do you use Lightroom or Capture One for photo editing?
Capture One. I got used to it and I find it excellent for fuji's raw
Everyone has unique criteria. I bought this lens, but quickly decided I will sell it. For me, I love the zoom range. But it was a little too heavy and a bit too slow at f/4. I’ve already replaced it with the Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8, which is lighter, faster, and focuses much closer. I don’t need OIS because I have IBIS. So those are my priorities. That said, the Fuji 16-80mm does take great, sharp images and has a fantastic zoom range.
You're totally right. Preferences are very personal. And your choice makes sense if that's what satisfies you the most
The focus loss is at a very acceptable level now when zooming. It's that flashing / flickering, that happens for no good reason. Maybe something to do with settings? Whether you are in auto or manual?
I tried every possible combination, and nothing seems to work on that
Purchased this lens in an X-T4 kit, works well for me. What I learned to not do was to use the zoom feature aggressively, but with the OIS on the lens and camera I haven't had any issues. I am looking to get a prime but have been hesitant to purchase. Tried a Fringer adapter for some 'L' "Canon EF lenses, but to heavy for my taste. Adapter has been returned, though it works well. So, 23mm vs. 35? I'd be okay with the F2.
They're both great lenses. It all depends on whether you want to stay a little wider or not. If in doubt I'd take the 23 cause it's a bit more of an all arounder
Thank you for your video. For traveling and covering full focal range do you think on my xe4 this lens with 1024 and 70-300 is better or 10-24, 18-55 and 70-300?
I travel with 10-24, 16-80 and 70-300. I'm really happy with this. If you want to save some weight and size then yes, the 18-55 is a good option.
I own this lens. The lens, as you very correctly stated is "perfect". It has some issues as you mention but thats it. I shoot events and portraits with it. When shooting portraits in studio with flash you 'll end up using F8 or F5.6 which is the sweet spot of sharpness for this amazing piece of gear. The colours are amazing and the focal length is perfect for portraits. I find it is a all round lens and the perfection of it is exactly this multipurpose of genres it applies to. Travel and outdoors but also portrait, studio, events. I also know people are not really used to this lens on a portrait head shot studio environment and absolutely should try it.
It's not its primary target but yes, in a studio setup you can definitely use it and it's super convenient
Nice.
You are absolutely right in saying that this lens (for that matter every lens) is made for a specific purpose.
I have seen many videos where people irrationally and irrelevantly compare vastly different lenses.
In essence what you say is right.
Thank you!
Yes it's a good lens. Were all the images at the end from a the 16-80? If so you went a lot of places in a year!
Yes, they were all from the 16-80. I was lucky enough to travel despite COVID-19. My first travel with it was before COVID-19 in Iceland. A dream land for photographers
LOL, I watch Camera Conspiracies too and I have zero interest in Vlogging.
Yeah, the 16-80mm is awesome. But then I'm a "photographer".
Ciao Luca e grazie per il video. Sono molto tentato nel prendere l’obiettivo xf 16-80mm f/4 r ois wr per la mia x t-30 II per la versatilità nelle focali. Lo utilizzerei principalmente per la streetphotography. Pensi che a parità di budget dovrei puntare su altro, tipo un fisso? O la qualità di questo zoom è più che valida? (Io attualmente ho solo un 27 mm 7Artisan f2.8)
Ciao e grazie a te. Per la street photography io personalmente preferisco dei fissi, proprio come il 27mm. Però ognuno di noi è diverso. Magari a te viene più comodo con uno zoom.
L'obiettivo è ottimo, però essendo F4 potresti trovarti in difficoltà a fare street quando cala il sole.
Beautiful gallery. Very inspiring. Would love to see your post process or some sort of editing tutorial from you.
I didn't plan on doing something like that, but I'll try
I have tried the lens and I have used it for two years I have taken a lot of great pictures with it but it’s not for me because it’s quirky to use . I can put it out two feet in front of me and take pictures viewing the LCD and the focus spot jumps all over the screen with me not touching anything.
Every time I touch the button the focus spot starts jumping all over the screen.
Also I don’t like turning the OIS on and off in the camera.
Not a user friendly lens at all.
I also own the 16-55 and I love it.
I am putting my 16-80 on eBay.
I am totally fed up with it.
I'm sad to hear that. My experience was a lot smoother
I have sold several of my Fujinon lenses, but the 16-80mm will not be one of them.
I guess I can say the same
Ciao Luca, great video as always :) I got my 16-80 with my X-T4 and love it. When I travel I always take it together with my 10-24 and a 23 f1.4 for low light situations. At 16mm it shows quite some distortion in more arquitectural situations, but that's my only criticism. Then again, the 10-24 is superb at 16 and 18mm :) By the way there is a review by ex-Fuji-X photographer John Armstrong, who compared the 16-80mm to his prime lenses and concluded that the differences were marginal :)
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I wouldn't personally go as far as saying there are marginal differences with the primes, because that wouldn't be true. Especially with the new ones. But I'd definitely agree on the fact that the 16-80 is a wonderful travel lens that checks all the travel lens boxes for me
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography You are certainly right about the newer primes. But check this out for yourself, it's quite surprising: th-cam.com/video/F8CWplGe6Vc/w-d-xo.html
People bash this lens because they bought into the older 18-55mm kit lens and are bandwagoning for it. Same way people tried to shit on the X-T4 when it first released because they already owned the X-T3 (great camera too btw). It's simply just denial and jealousy. The 16-80mm is the ultimate versatility lens and for a lot of people it never comes off of their camera.
I don't know if they bash it for that reason, there may be bad samples out.
To me it's a bless
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography Hey thanks for getting back to me and great video btw.
Most complaints appear to be regarding the zoom wobble during video recording. But even the XF 18-55mm has the same issue less pronounced due to the shorter length, yet you barely hear people talk about that, and most non-parfocal lenses experience this. Truth is anyone who's a serious videographer will not adjust zoom whilst shooting and most just use a prime lens.
Also not sure how much I believe any talk about bad samples, Fuji are known for their high quality lenses having pretty solid quality control, also this lens garnered a lot of attention so we would of heard about any manufacturing faults and even their XC lenses are excellent.
I get your point but I believe bad sample may exist. Me for once I was not happy with my 10-24 while everybody was praising that lens.
For the wobble while zooming I'd say there are more complaints now because Fuji is taking video seriously now, while 5 years ago it was just an afterthought.
I am the first to think that they should've thought about this during the design. However, it is what it is... I love the lens anyway
thanks for the effort and sharing. the posted images are wonderful! i am researching the 16-80/4 to pair with the X-T1 and X-T2 on a 6 week travel to Australia & New Zealand. i could take my FF Sony A7R3 but am concerned about size/weight. i would also take the 55-200 (is the 70-300 that much better?) along with a pair of f2 primes-23/2 & 50/2. two bodies, 4 lens and it all fits in a small padded pack. thumbs up.
Hi, thanks for sharing. As for the question on the telephoto... The 70-300 is better, not miles better, but better. If you can find a good deal on the 55-200 then go for it, otherwise if the difference in price is minimal, go for the 70-300. The difference in size and and weight is basically non existent
I've been back and forth about buying this lens. I think this video has helped me decide. Way too many hair-splitters out there. Thank you.
Glad to be useful, thank you
Good review! Think I am gonna go with the kit 16-80mm over 18-55mm when I get the X-S10 camera.
For the price you couldn't do better!
I am also getting this camera with the 16-80mm
i currently only have a X-T100 with a 15-45mm, most likely i am going to upgrade soon and im just confused whether which should i choose, 18-135 or 16-80
I'd go for the 16-80, no doubts about it
I am trying to decide whether to get this lens or the 10-24 and a zoom. I just need to decide whether the extra 5mm is worth the money. Decisions decisions. I am transitioning from Canon so only have the Fuji XT3 and a 35mm f/2 at the moment.
It all depends on how much you shoot in the 10-16 range. I am really happy with this and a laowa 9mm for wide stuff.
Another option is to go with 10-24 and 55-200 like Andy Mumford does
Thx for the video, one thing i do not understand is why people find corner and edge sharpness important. Honostly almost never look in the corners because that is not where i frame my subjects whether it be street, nature or portraitue photography. Could you please tell me why and when corner/edge sharpness is inportant? Thx!
The corner sharpness becomes important in those high resolution shots where the whole frame is the subject, such as landscapes or product shots. But the thing is many times it is overrated and considered a must have while in the real world it doesn't matter too much. I'm not saying it shouldn't be taken in consideration when testing a lens, but after testing it we focus more on real life shooting
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography thx for your reply. I understand that in those situations it can be important. I also agree it is overrated most of the time. So sad people think a lens is bad because of weaker corners when they do portraits or street photography...
Excellent review. You should have a lot more subscribers.
Thank you. Unfortunately I can't seem to be able to stick to the weekly updates... And this is not good for "the algorithm"
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography YT demands 2 videos a week. You have great content so do people will find it.
Right on brother. The competition for this lens is the 18-55 and the 18-135 and is better than both for me. The perfect travel lens. Way too many non-photographers with opinions on cameras. Everyone is much too focused on video. I paid the full price and don't regret it but what deal at $599.
You're right, for 599 is a no brainer
Unless you need the 55-80mm or the 16mm, I think the 18-55 2.8-4.0 has better optical performance and it’s lighter weight
I don't agree on the better optical performance, as in the same range they perform neck to neck and the 16-80 focuses way closer and perform better on stabilization(for stills).
But that being said, the point of the 16-80 is exactly that... Being versatile
You have just convinced me to get this Lens! Thanks Luca.
You'll love it
Thanks, agree with your view. Seems many focus on the aspects they can influence: gear. Crappy composition but hey at least the photo's are sharp, show low CAs and distortion 😁. Depending on the type of photography and the context, actual pixel peeping quality matters more. Sharp edges and some nearly invisible distorting in landscapes vs professionally paid portraits and print related work.
I can use this 90% of my photography including the 56mm f1.2. That’s all you need really.
Great video mate. And there was some extraordinarily beautiful pictures in that gallery. Bravo!
Thank you! Your feedback is precious!
Just ordered the XT4 with the 16-80 at a great price, your review decided me, many thanks .... beautiful photos :)
Thank you for letting me know
Fantastic shots, Luca, a joy to watch!
Thank you
this was exactly what i thought this lens was for! mostly landscape and video as well (for those who dont need fast apertures)
And for that this lens is amazing
Hello, this lens till have focusing issues in video mode or firmwares fixed it? I want to buy X-T3 mostly for object photography, but I can't decide which one is better: 18-55 or 16-80. Thanks for answer, really need your advice, because I couldn't find good comparison between this two lens.
Hi, if you want an in depth comparison have a look at this video I posted a while ago.
th-cam.com/video/n0damrRPx4g/w-d-xo.html
As for the focusing issue while zooming, it can't be fixed via firmware, it's the lens design and it can't be changed.
I would still pick the 16-80 over the 18-55 for the convenience and the incredible stabilizer. The image quality is very good too
Lisbon. It was nice to hear from you an unbiased opinion about Fuji lens.
Thank you
Good intel on the stabilization. Like the straight talk.
Hello
What is the reason for the flashing sky when zooming? at 6:42 and...
It's a weird thing it does, one of the things that was criticized the most in this lens. It's some weird adjustment
I own this lens as well. Lately, I've been using my viltrox 85 and see noticeable difference in contrast, giving the Viltrox the edge. Anyone else here see a drop-off in contrast compared to other lenses? Compensating settings to increase the contrast on the fuji? Nice photos!
The Viltrox 85 is a contrasty lens, which is weird for a portrait lens, but not to the point where it would make the 16-80 lacking contrast. At 80mm the 16-80 loses a bit of contrast but nothing dramatic
It's good but I prefer 18-135, more reach. 80 isn't enough for a single travel lens in my opinion. You need also 70-300 then.
Not always. I went through a 7 days hike with that lens only, and I managed to get all the pictures I needed.
Sure sometimes a longer lens would've helped, but cropping is always an option, especially on the new 40mp cameras
Thanks for the info, fabulous pictures!
Thanks!
Great review, I fully agree. I have this lens and its on my camera 80% of the time as my general purpose choice. I'll be honest, its not as exciting for me as other lenses I have, I find I do more work in post processing when I shoot this lens with respect to others, but its versatility more than makes up for its limitations.
Do you post process more for colors? Sharpness? I'm curious as I don't find myself more involved in post processing compared to other lenses
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography contrast, sharpness/clarity, brightness. The images just seem flatter than with other lenses straight off.
Weird, I never had this feeling. To be honest I really like the jpegs your of this lens with few tweaks in the settings.
If anything, maybe colors are a little cold
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography I compare it to the 10-24 and the 55-200 both of which render better SOOC in my personal experience. That said, the 16-80 is more than good enough for me, the range is so versatile that I haven't used the 10-24 any more and I'm considering selling it. And as you mentioned the OIS is stellar, and since I'm lazy about using a tripod thats another big plus.
Hi Luca, does it have ‘lens creep’ when carried with the lens pointed down?
It doesn't happen to me while I'm walking, but if I'm on a tripod pointing down vertically it tends to creep
Love you photos and thanks for the honest input from a landscape photography point of view.
Thank you!
Hello! Thank you for your video. What’s better 18-55 or 16 80? Image quality?
They're both very good. I prefer the 16-80 as it adds versatility
Sharpness is debatable. To my eye the 16-80 is sharper overall, but not by a huge margin.
I wouldn't choose one over the other based on the sharpness as they are both more than good.
Size vs versatility is the question when it comes to these 2.
Even price, now that they have the kit with the 16-80 out is less of a choosing factor.
@Olivier La Buse that video is mainly static scenes. You would do great with both lenses. Where Fuji stabilization suffers is on more deliberate movements. They haven't found a way to make those smooth, regardless of the lens
Great video, and the photos you have taken are amazing, we just got this lens with our new x-t3 currently this is the only lens we have, eventually we will be getting 70-300 or tamron 18-300, I don’t think I’m qualified enough or use the lens long enough make comment on the performance of the lens but for us amateur photographers its great, hopefully we will learn enough to get most out of our camera and the 16-80mm lens.
Thank you! You got a great lens, and the 70-300 is even better. Check my review for it.
Superb gallery Luca. Fabulous shots!
Thanks!
Thank you.... your three sensible reviews of this lens finally pushed me to buy one with a XT-4. Could you recommend 23 f2 or 35 f2 along with 16-80 as I am a novice and your advice would be of extreme help. Thank you :-)
The focal length is up to you. The 35mm also have a cheap version called XC going for 200€ new. It doesn't have the aperture ring, but optically is identical to its xf sibling. Best bang for the bucks F2 lens from fuji
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography Thank you very much.... :-)
Awesome pictures! Are they all shot with the 16-80?
Yes, they're all shot with the 16-80mm
You can say that for every picture shown on TH-cam or Instagram. As for the grainy look, I think you're referring to those that are more hazy. I didn't add any grain, it's how they came out due to the haze
This lens is great for all purposes photography. I am not a photographer but trust me, I have shot 500 and even more with switching IOS settings. The raw pictures are even amazing before you edit
Just Goosebumps !!! ❤️..
Hello. I've a question. I'm the photographer of the tourists who is coming to hotel which I work. Family, couple, single woman, man, kids, babies are my clients. They are having holiday photos from me. Garden, pool, beach, sunset on the beach wherever needed or desired. So the question is x-h1 with 16-80 or x-t3 with 16-80 ? Thank you.
Get the Xt-3. It's a better camera overall. Not that the x-h1 is bad, but the Xt-3 is more modern, better AF, better sensor
I have X-H1 and I like that it has IBIS build in, so it will stabilize even those vintage lenses. I think that X-H1 needs battery pack as it consume quite a lot. I mainly chose X-H1 as the price dropped so much.
I own this lens and love it! The OIS is bizar good, I use the lowest iso.
For photography it's a great lens
Stunning gallery at the end
Thanks!
Buongiorno Luca ,
Complimenti fai recensioni veramente chiare e utili. Mi chiamo Livio ed ero rimasto in stand by per 7/8 anni da peso di reflex e perciò usavo solo iphone. Poi un amico mi ha stimolato e ho preso una xt3 usata con 23 f1,4 viltrox è un 55mm 7 artisans manual focus . Vista la mia storia , cerco versatilità per non lasciar perdere di nuovo e soprattutto ho due figlie di 10-13 anni che torturo con qualche ritratto … quindi il 16-80 mi attira da come lo hai descritto ( magari riuscendo a dar via gli altri 2 che diverrebbero superflui)ma sono in dubbio se piuttosto aggiungere al corredo un viltrox 85 f1,8.. ( anche se il 55 è abbastanza scarso , per quanto bello a vedersi per la sua compattezza). Cosa mi consigli ? Hai un contatti per parlarti ? Perché io sono di Vibo Valentia e credo tu siciliano , quindi mi farebbe piacere prendere un caffè venendoti a trovare … così mi dai qualche dritta
Ciao, per contattarmi vai tranquillo tramite uno dei miei profili Instagram.
Il 16-80 è un signor obiettivo, e te lo straconsiglio per la praticità.
Insieme al 23 Viltrox saresti ben coperto.
Per quanto riguarda il Viltrox 85mm, se dai un occhio alla mia recensione, è un obiettivo veramente bello per il prezzo che ha. Però un 85mm lo usi poche volte, ed essendo grosso e pesante spesso finisci per lasciarlo a casa.
Se vuoi un'ottica da ritratto ti consiglierei di guardare il vecchio 56mm Fuji che adesso pare abbia un Cashback di 450€ rendendolo incredibilmente conveniente
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography grazie mille .
Do you like the 16-80 or sigma 18-50 more?
They're very different, for different purposes. I like them both, but in different conditions. For outside and adventure the 16-80 is way more convenient. For events, low light... The sigma wins
I just purchased this lens as a kit with the sx10. Looking forward to having more of a range than the 18-55mm.
So I appreciated this review. 55 was never enough for me although that’s a great little lens. 55-200mm was too much in many cases so I am expecting the 16 -80 to be a happy a medium, with even more of a wide angle. It all depends on what you are shooting…
Exactly, it's all about what you plan on doing. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I'm sure you'll like the lens a lot
right now i am more likelly the photograpy person. Maybe i will take videos for youtube in the future but i am not quite sure about that. What is your advice for my situation. Should i buy it or any other lens?
For outdoor photography this lens will definitely make you happy. It covers so many things that it allows you to just get out with that lens only
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography Thanks for the reply. I guess i'll get it
hello! would this lens go well with the xs-10? ☺️
It's perfect on that camera. I think it was one of the kit lenses for it
Thanks for this video, I love the Fuji 16-80. I am using it on my X-E3 for travel together with the 10-24. That covet 90% of my photography. I went for the fujicron f2.0/23, 35 & 50 primes as well, it's a different ballgame - very nice for street & portrait photography. I am looking forward to the 70-300 which will likely replace our 50-230. Fuji X-mount is much less weight than full frame glass - compared to my Nikon AF-D lense - and a very versatile, high quality system.
Have a look at my first impressions on the 70-300, I plan on pushing a review out in a month or so
Ciao Luca, sempre bravo e professionale; mi sembra di aver visto delle immagini di Stazzo? Sei di queste parti? Sempre e solo Fuji! 💪💪💪
Ciao, non credo di aver messo immagini di Stazzo, ma troverai la Torre nella mia recensione dello Zeiss Touit 12mm. Non sono di Stazzo ma non sono per niente distante, abito a Nicolosi
Grazie dei complimenti, fanno sempre piacere
C'è uno spezzone di video di Stazzo, forse nn ricordi.
@@leonardopappalardo5229 hai ragione... Il video sull'autofocus. Mi ero concentrato sulle foto😂
what is the best stabilized lens in the fuji world in your opinion? Heard about 16-80 being the best but other say 10-24 is better?
Well the 10-24 is great, but being wider it is easier to stabilize than a 16-80mm. To me, from a photography standpoint, the 16-80mm has probably the best stabilization of all the Fuji lenses. It's got some issues for video works, and you need to be aware of that
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography thank you. When it comes to video the 16-80 has some Focus issues, so maybe the 18-55 could be an option. (Although it is quite old)
@@erik6678 it's not just the focus issues, but also the stabilization tends to fight you when you start panning. They improved it via firmware update but it's still visible.
The 18-55 seems to be smoother for video in general
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography hopefully fujifilm will update some of their standard zooms in the Future. Thank you for your work and all the reviews 👏👍
Yeah, I like it too. It’s a little big for my street photography but it’s all I have … but the range is fantastic and I really notice the fantastic OIS. Thanks for the vid.
Sure, for street photography it's a little big. But it's kind of expected, for the rest... I love it
I have this lens. Got it with a T-X3 but haven't used it much as of late. But when I did, I loved it. Great gallery.
Thanks. For me it's my go to lens since I bought it
I got this lens as an upgrade with primes in mind as the next step. But im finding this lens to be super sharp. Sharpness you can only appreciate if you crop or print. I thought I wanted primes for sharpness, but now Im thinking I only want them for lower aperture.
It is a great lens, but if you try the new set of primes you will see a noticeable difference in sharpness
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography Ok thats good to know. I was wondering if it were actually worth it!
They f**king are! 😅
Absolutely love this lens as one lens to go with!
Ciao Luca, thank you for your honest and straightforward feedback - this is really helpful.
I am considering buying an XT4 and I was wondering which lens to go with between the 16-80 and the 16-55. Ideally I would like to go with only one lens as a do-it-all.
Of course it is a question of compromises.
Will the fixed f4 be missing out a lot to the 2.8 in indoors shooting?
Many thanks !
Unfortunate for extensive indoor usage the 16-55 is a better choice as the difference, even if just one stop, can be really visible in the final result.
Another option would be getting the 16-80 and the 35mm F2 XC or the 18mm F2 for indoor use
Top, thanks a lot Luca for the swift response, much appreciated!
I agree with you! I bought it in kit with x-t4 for 2400 euro. It will stay in my photobag!
Nice to hear that! Great kit!
great review, got 1650 returned for 1680, and just came back from trip with it. Love the results, m not pro photographer, but family do happy with the final results. M printing out them anyway. But had to mention, I do find one picture shot during low light was not really good, I didn't use tripod at the time. Other than that, m happy with it, glad I returned 1655, even I knew it was the best one.
1655*
Thank you for your feedback! You're right about the low light shot, having an additional stop of light sometimes makes the difference especially with moving subjects... But other than that, this lens rocks
I got this lense for 1.3k with the X-S10, really great deal. I am not a pro photographer, I just need a lens to capture the biggest focal lense possible. With this one and a 70-300mm I am done. Will just buy other chinese funny lenses from now on.
I think you made the right choice. I tried the x-s10 yesterday, it felt like a great camera. If you're interested in the 70-300, my English version of my first impressions on this lens will be online in less than an hour
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography great thanks, I watched a couple minutes of your Italian review, but will wait on the EN one. About channel success if it is photography based, why not doing everything in English? Unless you sell photo gear in IT and want to have a big audience there, it could make sense to jump internationally.
Thanks, for sharing. I got the xt3 and this lens as a weather proof travel lens. I'm a hobbiest and really love it for what I do.
Yours is a great combo!
I've had this lens for 3 months now and I have to say I'm really disappointed with the overall sharpness and I'm selling it. I really wanted to like it but every time I've taken it out recently I just don't trust what it's going to give me. My old 18-55mm was sharper than this lens and worked well for portraits as well. This is not a portrait lens at all. I used it for my son's graduation recently and I really wasn't happy with the results. I'm also a Nikon shooter and to be honest my old Nikkor 24-120mm outperforms this lens by a lot. I'm going to pick up a Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 and I think that lens will fit my needs much better especially for street photography.
You'll definitely like the sigma, but at this point I would have probably gone with the Tamron 17-70. Bigger, similar weight and focal length of the 16-80, a stop brighter
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography Thanks, but the Tamron 17-70mm is a big monster - I'm buying the 18-50mm mainly for NYC street photography and some family photos. I got into Fuji for the compact size - I already shoot with a Nikon D850. I bought the 16-80mm for it's versatility but the lens just didn't perform at all for me. I'll take the 18-50mm along with the Fuji 10-24mm and I think that combo will kill it for street. I also have the 55-200mm which I love along with the 100-400mm and the 80mm macro. I think the sigma will give me the quality coverage I need.
@@steveborghardt I'm sure you'll love it
How is this lens for video?
Especially autofocus?
You can give a look at my review
th-cam.com/video/cFlt98oxvms/w-d-xo.html
Autofocus for video, but pictures as well, is very good. In my review I talk about all these aspects and much more
I love my 16-80 as I mainly use it for photographs. For video, it does as the video says, lose focus when zooming in and out quickly. The key word is quickly. If I move the zoom really slow, it holds focus pretty good as it adjusts to the small movement rather quickly. My 16-80 came with my X-T4 and I am keeping it. I understand what it is meant for and use it that way!
The thing about zooming slowly is that it's really hard to keep it slow at a constant pace. But I get what you mean
Sure
i wanna take this lens for traveling and i'm worried about the focus loss during zoom
if i do it slowly, is it similar to 18-55mm i.e. unnoticeable?
Nope, it is always noticeable
Good photos -- in contrast to what you see on many other channels... ;-)
Thanks!
Listen to Mr.John Turturro people!!! He knows what he talking about.
You can also pick this lens up now in late 2022 for around $400 all day long.
Used I guess. It's great value for that
Great review, love my 16-80
Thanks!
I don't understand people. They need to look for everything negative in todays equipment. It is not reasonable to compare an F4 big zoom lens to pro-grade f2.8 lenses on any system. I am a nikon shooter and I use 24-120 f4 90% of the time and I pair it with 70-200 f2.8 lens. You can't compare build quality and af speed between those two for example. And most of those people just sit around and wait for the perfect lens to have no CA or what ever is bothering them and do no photography. Look at the Ansel Adams photos for example, he had awful equipment comparing to todays kit lenses even! And his photos are breathtaking.
I love to stumble upon channels like these. You are talking great sense about photography here. I am thinking about getting a Fuji camera or even switching to Fuji and I was really bummed to hear that this lens is bad, I just could not believe that. This is the first real talk about this lens. I would take fuji x-t3 or x-t4 (or even x-t1) with this lens anytime over my nikon d4 and 24-120 for hiking and nature photography. It is unreal weight and size difference.
edit: Beautiful gallery Luca! I commented before the end of the video!
You'll definitely enjoy a lot the Fuji combination you mention. Size wise it's night and day difference. Of course the d4 is built like a tank, but for everyday use it's way too big and heavy. I got out of Nikon DSLR because of that almost 10 years ago to embrace mirrorless cameras and i never regret once, even if at the beginning mirrorless were slow and rough. But I was bringing them with me everywhere, while my DSLR were staying home unless it was for a professional work.
Thank you for stopping by and sharing your thoughts
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography I didn't mention that I have subscribed also, so you will see me in the comments more often :)
I am required to use D4 by my company and currently I can't be a solo photographer but I am working on it. If I didn't have that limitation I would switch to Fuji few years ago.
Keep up the good work!
Thank you!
For me, this lens is a disappointment, maybe I had too high expectations, For portraits and handheld it gives me blurry images. For video its ok but by 30 fps 60 shutter it gives ghosting when the subject moves his head a bit faster, so unexpectable for shooting video clips. Comparing with 16mm f1,4 it is a disappointing product. I am thinking about selling it and getting some other sharper zoom for hybrid shooting, what would you recommend?
It depends on the camera or your shooting style.
The best lens is probably the 16-55 but it's not stabilized, and this can make a lot of a difference.
Any zoom is not comparable with a prime such as the 16 1.4... if that's your target you may have set the bar a little high.
I agree that the 16-80 is not a portrait lens
@@LucaPetraliaPhotography I use XT-4 and video mainly.
Then the 16-55 would fit even if it's not stabilized