Fujifilm XF 16-55mm F2.8 VS Fujifilm XF 16-80mm F4 REVIEW | What's Fujifilm's BEST Lens?
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- A complete review of the Fujifilm XF 16-55mm F2.8 VS Fujifilm XF 16-80mm F4 lens REVIEW. Let me know in the comments below what's Fujifilm's best midrange zoom?
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What lens would you own the Fujifilm 16-55 F2.8 or the Fujifilm XF 16-80 F4?
I think the 16-55 F2.8.... and use my 55-200mm for for the long end . The 16-80 just falls that bit short at the long end ..The Fujifilm XF 16-80 F4 is a "Jack of all trades, master of none"
I bought the 16-55 along with my XT-3 because along with the IQ, with that combo I also got the battery grip with 2 batteries free. If 16-80 was available a year earlier, would have gone with that as I do miss OIS on that lens for a lot of video work, where carrying a gimbal for long hours really tire me. Not resenting my 16-55 purchase though as the extra batteries with grip have been a saver. Saving for 50-140 now.
I brought the 16-55mm F2.8, it's a bit front heavy like you say with my X-T2 but it sort my style love the quality don't really shot any video bar the odd family clip. But I got it for under £600 in mint condition, thinking about get the Viltrox 33mm F1.4 heard lots of good things about it. I need to get the Samyang 12mm F2 at some point.
Great review :) I got the X-H1 and the 16-55 F 2.8. Great combo! Would keep the 16-55 as I do concert photography. Thinking about getting the 55-140 though, instead of my 55-200.
Yeah I sort of agree on many parts love it for my use!
I own the 16-55 2.8 and the X-T4. Lack of OIS on the lens doesn't matter to me since the camera has it. The 16-55 an amazing travel option because you don't need to bring a bunch of other lenses. It's a great travel lens, but it's not a great walking lens. I really do start feeling the weight of the thing after awhile. It gets tiring to carry and hold after awhile. It's not unbearable but it's not pleasant.
I think for me the 16-80 might be my answer for a personal travel lens. It's got the range I want. I think f/4 is still plenty wide enough considering you've got a OIS to help with low light. It's also lighter, by a good amount. It's it optically the same to the 16-55? No not at all imo, but if someone's picking apart corner sharpness then your subject was boring or the viewer is an a--hole.
I totally can agree with these comments
My opinion exactly. The 16-80 as allrounder and some primes, when bokeh and minimal depth of field matter.
Spot on! As Ansel Adams--he knew a bit about photography, IIRC--wrote, "Photographs are meant to be looked at, not looked into." I've just watched, not for the first time, Otto Preminger's _Anatomy of a Murder._ Even when Lee Remick wasn't on screen, I didn't find myself checking corner sharpness or analyzing Preminger's bokeh.
For me, I think the 16-80 wins. The camera's always in my hand, I walk a lot, and I can see how the X-Tx bodies would feel unbalanced with the 16-55. But the 16mm f1.4 is on order, so I'll probably stick with the 18-55 for now. The way I think of variable aperture zooms, I see the 18-55 as an f4 lens that sometimes can go as wide as f2.8.
I returned to Fujifilm last year, with a used X-T3 and 18-55. I bought the 16mm 1.4 because I learned to enjoy the 24mm perspective on a Nikon F100 with a 24mm f2.8D Nikkor lens: the first image I ever licensed came out of that combo, shot on Kodak Tri-X 400 pushed to ISO 1200. My family and I drove out to South Lake Tahoe in July, and I kept seeing compositions for the 24mm angle of view. I also can make good use of the 1.4's close focus ability, which, at 6", is half the minimum focus distance of the 24mm Nikkor.
I own 2 18-55’s and the 16-55. I love them all. I own all Fuji 1.4 primes the 55-200 and the 50-140. In addition I own the 50r medium format and several lenses. When I went to Iceland for a couple of weeks the 16-55 was glued on my XH1 and the 50-140 on my XT2. Those two were my go to machines. Now I also spent 3 weeks in Costa Rica and I took my 18-55 and my 55-200 ad I knew that trip included lots of jungle trekking and wanted to keep my pack light. I gave up weather sealing for weight and had no regrets.
Perfect, sounds like an increable lens lineup you have there sir!
I switched from the 18-55 to the 16-55 when I moved from X-T2 to X-H1, since I didn't want to buy it before I had a stabilized body. I do mostly landscape-ish kind of photos - but the 16-80 seems really interesting as a walk-around lens. I often feel that I lack some reach when I use the 16-55 on walks in the forest and similar :)
Yeah the 16-80mm is crazy versatile - lovely lens!
I bought the 16-80 a little over a month ago after going back and forth between it and the 16-55. Your comments are spot on regarding the 16-80; It is fantastic in every way.
Totally agree Mike! Underrated!
Literally great review. You cover all the aspect. Thanks mate
Thanks buddy glad I can help ;)
Awesome mate, great to hear a G'day on TH-cam. You've helped me choose the 16-80 as I need handheld video primarily
No problem mate, always good to have a Aussie on a big platform like TH-cam! Glad I can help
Thanks Mathew for a beautifully done review!! You did a fantastic job of including red video arrows and other ID markings pointed toward each lens as you spoke about them!! That made it so easy for me to follow you verbally and visually on each point you made without having to guess. Your arguments for each lens were enormously well articulated, fair, and objective. I was captivated with all the possible scenarios you described for each lens. Given all the info, I feel that any well motivated photographer could easily find very practical ways to work with the F 4 lens and enjoy the advantages of better balance, stabilization, weight, and reach!!! Especially when traveling near or far or just in the neighborhood. You hit a grand slam review that will help thousands of us to make more informed and smarter decisions about how to assemble the best gear for our needs!!! Thanks again for your amazing efforts!!
Amazing Jerry this is amazing to read I thank you so much! :D
Thanks Mathew you deserve the high praise!!
I own the 16-80 after owning two 18-55. I love it. I think the best travel kit for me is 16-80, 70-30 and a 35f2.
Same for me except I'd want my 23mm instead of 35mm
Good review. Picked up the 16 to 80, even though the 16 to 55 was on sale. Versatility, range OIS and light weight. No contest. Will post samples on my channel soon.
Really cool to hear. Think people overlook how versatile the 16-80mm really is
Finally what I was waiting for! Great video
Hahaha you and multiple other people - sorry it took so long!
Great review Mathew, super helpful! I'll pick up the 16-80mm today. I've been torn between these 2 lenses, and the 10-24mm. Super helpful, Thx!
Thank you so much 😀
Really helpful review. I am about to upgrade from XT2/18-55. Very happy to bring in the 16-80 based on what I see here. I have the 16f1.4 and 23f2.0 for low light situations. The XT4 body will also be a big step forward.
Yes Chris that will be a beautiful setup X-T4 with those lenses
Thanks for the video.
I been shooting with my Fuji XT-2 and 16-55 lens for the past 2 years and I love it it’s a very nice lens .
Totaly agree, beautiful lens
I own and love the 16-80 mm f/4 for its weight, image quality and versatility. I use my camera and lens array primarily for travel and the 16-80 is my new all-rounder. I have not considered the 16-55 because of weight and lack of a longer focal length. I am sure it is a fine lens.
Yeah totally understand James!
How do you like the 16-80 for shooting video? Is autofocus good?
@@hepgeoff I am too old to do video (seems to me to be more a young person's passion). The autofocus, however, is very good. Jim
@@jamesstrain6797 Thanks, I'm older, too. I'm also concerned with weight, so I'm leaning towards the 16-80 over the 16-55.
I recently picked up the X-T5 with the 16-80mm and they pair absolutely brilliantly. Really informative video, thanks!
Great comparison Matthew- I recently just purchased the 16-80 f4. I mainly shoot seascapes so I opted for the 16-80 for the range and image stabilization for hand holding and video. Great Work
Yep totally understand your decision! Couldnt agree more with you!
I so wish I had listened to you and bought the 16-80 when I first saw this video some time ago. I now have it and love it! Its going to be my carry around lens from now on replacing my 18-55, 18-135 and maybe even my 16-55,! Great video Matthew. Thank you! Jason
Hope you enjoy it! Great to hear mate - really pleased that this could help you as much as it did :D
To be honest, I have never used the 16-55, so no criticism of it from me but I would say that 90% of the time the 16-80 is on my XT-3 and I love using it. I travel with 3 lenses, this one, the 10-24 and the 55-200 and I have never looked back. It really boils down to your style of shooting.
I totally agree, I can see myself going the same way you have! :D
Good summary review, thanks. Both lenses have their place. Both are great for their design purpose. In December 2019, I went with the 16-55/f2.8 for IQ. Yes, the 16-80 was available, but the 16-55 was in the Black Friday sale and had an additional Fuji cashback, making is far cheaper than the 16-80. Furthermore, I was anticipating the XT4 with IBIS. Yes, the XT4/16-55 will be a tad heavier than a XT3, which I currently use, and a 16-80, but not materially so for my hiking and travelling. Now that the XT4 with IBIS is out, I am looking forward to receiving mine and having a play.
how much did you pay for the 16-55 at black friday and with the Fuji cashback? Amazon doesn't let me track Fuji prices :-/
WOW Jules I am jealous, sounds perfect and similar to what I am wishing to do!
Probably an absolute steal haha!
Loved your video Matthew 👍
Amazing Russell super glad you enjoyed it :D
I own both. I use the 16-80mm f4 along with the 10-24mm f4 (WR) on the X-T1 while hiking and travelling because they are lighter than other comparable lenses and use the same filters. I use the 16-55 mm f/2.8 when I want a better lens for landscapes and weight isn't an issue (I hope to get an X-T4 soon so they lack of OIS isn't an issue with the 16-55 mm f2.8).
UPDATE (12-2021) The 16-80 is made in the Phillipines, not Japan, and there are quality control issues. In case you get a bad one, make sure the retailer has a good returns policy. If you don't need OIS or the extra reach, go with the made in Japan 16-55. It's worth the extra money.
Thank you! :D
My 16-55 is made in the Philippines.
I shouldn’t make any difference, because they wouldn’t take more or less care on every copy.
If you expect your lens is completely checked by a employee, you better switch to Leica or Hassleblad.
Some of the most advanced tech will be made in China and not every of this company came from Europe, Japan, Korea or US.
Great video! Never knew the OIS turns off when the camera recognizes it’s on a tripod.
Thanks so much mate :D
I am rewatching this video after my initial decision to stick with the 18-55. The price tags for both of these lenses were considerable at the release date of the video. Now, two years later, the market situations for both the 16-55 and the 16-80 have changed and both can be acquired second hand at a very good price point. Now that the 16-80 can be acquired in kits with the recent cameras, the second hand markets are flooded with copies of it. Most of the copies are in “like new” conditions available at around 500EUR, while the 16-55 has dropped to between 600-850. This makes this video and the whole debate about which of the two lenses to get very relevant again! I just upgrade my gear to overcome visible limitations with my current gear. In my case it’s the lack of weather sealing on the 18-55. The focal length versatility of the 16-80 allows me to fill the gap between my 10-24 and the 70-300. Great and still very relevant video today!
Thanks for the review :)
Thanks for that info Matthew.
No worries!
Recently there was a 5,5 R magnitude earthquake in my city. After the initial shaking stopped, the first things I grabbed is my dog in one hand and the X-H1 with the 16-55/2,8 in the other, and run out. Enough said...
haha nice!
I grabbed my X-H1 and 50-140 :)
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Great honest review Matt. Moving from Nikon to Fuji and totally agree with your assessment of the lenses. Hybrid. Versatile. Stills. Video. We need tools that get it all and are cost effective while doing a professional job.
Thanks for watching! Couldnt agree more Tom, lenses are more than just being sharp! So much more behind it
Great review! Thank You!
Thanks buddy - appreciate it!
Really enjoyable watch, now I am googling the 16mm-80mm for deals 😁
Good choice! Love that bloody lens, mmhmmm camera shopping haha the best!
Just changed to fuji from m43, this lens was what convinced me - the 12-60 2.8-4 pana leica is a tough lens to beat, and there’s great ibis in most m43 now. I know this is a bit soft in corners, but ois and the range, weather sealing and the close focus convinced me (as well as the deals on it bundled with the XT3). Glad it takes same filters as 10-24 as I plan to get that and a 35 f2 to make a nice travel kit, possibly with the samyang for astro/night photos
Awesome, hope you enjoy :D
i think i need the 16-80 mate as well as my 16-55, so i have a one trick pony lens for long walks and the quality for local work. or when i take my camel
Yeah I have to agree mate, the 16-80mm is an amazing lens, knew id be good, but not this good!
I have an X-H1 so I have the OIS covered. Picked up a clean 16-55 2.8 WR for $600 on Offerup. I use it for everything from landscape and portraiture to street and architecture. It's a beast of a setup.
Yeah nice setup!
Thank you for the informative video! I'm about to buy the X-T4 and was wondering which of these two lenses to get. The camera with the 16-80 is actually $100 more expensive but I'm going with that one anyway.
Good choice!
Thanks for the comparison! I've been debating on selling my 23, 35, and 55 F2 lenses since I've been looking at OIS lenses. My right wrist hasn't been the greatest these days for run and gun so the OIS should help with shaky and/or slightly blurred photos. I mostly shoot in daylight so F4 would be more than enough with the 16-80. I still have an X-T1 so no need to spend the money on a new camera when this one still works great. I do plan to get an X-T4 in the future and maybe go with primes again or just the 16-55 F2.8.
Yes, this 16-55mm is a little heavier for run and gun style especially lacking the OIS. I love the 16-80mm. Can becoming annoying for low light, but with the OIS is ideal for photography, its mainly low light video. If you dont do that, no issue for you really.
I find the 16-55 is sharper, better made, bigger and heavier. Lack of stabilisation is no loss on a XH1. Id own both which I do..
Nice, totally agree own both also and understand why they both stand
Great review I completely agree with your review. I have both the 16 55 and 16 80 and had planned to sell the 16 55 but it is such a great lens I am going to keep it even though the 16 80 is on my xt3 70% of the time. As you know I use Freewell filters ( brilliant product ) ND64, CPL, Night Filter all 72mm so when I travel my bag has 16 80, 10 24 which are both 72mm and I usually chuck in 35 f2 if I want a light day with no camera bag. I have sold my 18 55 which came with my xt3 as it doesn't "cut the mustard" with either the 16 80 or 16 55.
Yeah 72mm is handy with 10-24 also. Lovely setup you have Tony - hard to sell the 16-55 right lol
Nice review. Thank you.
Great review Matthew!
Personally I don't mind a little blur in the corners and I usually add some vignetting, so Im all over the 16-80.
I love your videos but I need to use close captions and the space bar to watch them. Any chance you could leave one second between paragraphs? (Yes, everyone's a critic.)
Great tip! Sorry about that is it me speaking to fast or my accent thats really hard to understand. Sorry about this blame the bloody Aussie in me! hahaha
I bought the TX-4 kit with the 16-80mm and it has been a fantastic lens. I recently bought the much hyped 23mm f/2 and honestly can't see much difference when I use the 16-80 in open position. This lens will cover you well.
Yeah the 16-80mm is great versatile lens!
I have the XS10 with IBS and the 23f2 as well and it is very versatile takes excellent photos. Now looking to purchase the 16-80 because of that extra reach makes me think it will be on the camera 80% of the time until I get the 10-24 also.
After watching this and some of your videos about the X-T3 and 16-55 f2.8 I have decided to buy them. I'm only planning on doing photography, so I think they are the best combination for capturing sharp images with weather sealing. Thank you for your awesome videos.
Good choice! Really glad I can help you and please if you need anything else, let me know :D
Hi Hydra dont discount the XH1. The body is a better balance with the lens and you get IBIS so you gain a stop in lower light conditions making the most of the 16-55. The newer XT3 offers very little over the XH1 and the XH1 has better build quality and it's now far cheaper new!
@@jward3622 yes you have a good point. I actually considered the XH1 because of its build quality. I just like the new processor and the dials of the X-T3.😁
@@brianfitzrealty it's not just you, I too also prefer the older sensor. I am a RAW only stills shooter and the XT3 offers no real extra benefit. I never shoot fast action and shoot in a lot of lower light. The stability the XH1s IBIS and amazing shutter provide is key to keeping the ISO lower. I did try using a sony FF but found the camera kept getting in the way, I just couldn't find a flow as I can with the XH1. I literally never think about the camera when shooting with it.
no one disputes zooms are versatile. i’ve got quite lots of experience traveling with big cameras and zooms and i’ll tell you it’s not fun. nowadays i run a two small body two small prime lens setup.
100% agree that used to be me 2 years ago, hated it so moved to a smaller lighter setup so much better! :D
I own both. If I need to photograph in low light, I use the 16-55. Coming from heavy Nikons, the weight is no issue for me.
Great video Matthew, i thoroughly enjoyed the review of both lenses. I own the Fuji 16-55 F2.8 and it is used when travelling or as my one lens one camera options.I love the lens and although the 16-80 mm is lighter, smaller and comes with the OIS system i couldn't see me ever wanting to swap my 16-55 for it. I am looking forward to your other reviews. I would love you to do one on the Fujifilm XF 8-16 mm F2.8 lens. Take care mate and be safe.
Yeah I actually understand that Kevin, I think the big thing for me that changes my mind is the use of Video that i do, where the 16-80mm really shines through! I would love to review the 8-16mm but that would literally leave me -$$$ in my back account haha.
Just compared your raw images, thank you very much, very useful! Honestly, I didn't notice much difference.. 16-80 seems soft at 80mm, however at wide angle- only if pixel peeping can tell difference. I guess for high end professionals it is important, but for overall user- not much of a difference! Maybe different conditions would show different results. Probably will have to rent those and compare in real life. Thank you!
Yeah totally agree, not that much difference hey!
very well reviewed!
Thank you kindly!
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Thanks so much!
I started out with the kit lens. Then I quickly realized I needed a boost in IQ. Got the 16-55 and will never go back. It rivals the primes in its rendering. I'll get an xt4 eventually for the IBIS.
Yeah totally get that Robert, the 16-55 + X-T4 would be a killer combo!
Great video and while I agree with you about the 16-80mm being more versatile due the increased focal range and OIS, in my copy of the lens unless in good light, the images have a tendency to be a little soft and very soft at the 80mm end. In fact, I have decided to purchase a 16-55mm to replace it and thankfully found one on offer for £539. I know it will be heavier and have a reduced range without OIS but I am also confident that the images produced will be noticeably sharper.
Thanks for sharing
please!! Where did you get that price for 16-55, I guess it's in the UK, for the £ sign, right now I'm trying to buy one in London, but I don't see those offers
Great video, thank you.
Good comparison. Similar confusion when I had Sony A7III - Tamron 28-75mm 2.8 vs Sony 24-105 f4 😀. Just holding on for another couple of months if Sony's new camera matches this before deciding a camera system.
Yeah totally agree, finding what is right for you is ALWAYS the hardest haha. Hope it works out for you
thanks for great review :D I was starting to do video picked up the 10-24mm first and realized the 16-55mm is a whooping 77mm filter thread which was a downer but realized the 16-80mm uses a 72mm filter thread so probably majority of video shooters will pick this lense instead with 10-24mm 16-80mm combo cheers
Great review! This is helping with my next lens purchase decision for a midrange landscape lens, plus occasional portraits and indoor events: the 16-55mm f2.8, or the 16-80mm f4 plus a 23mm prime.
I already have the 10-24mm f4, Rokinon 12mm f2, and 55-200mm. The 16-55 @ 55mm/2.8 is good enough for me for portraits, as is the 16-80 @ 80mm/4.0 (from what I’ve seen). The cost of the 16-55 or 16-80 plus a prime is about the same, so this is a tough choice!
100% it's just all about getting the gear that you need and works for you :D
I just saw your video and I've made a decision. I would choose 16-80mm because it has a very useful ois in terms of video capture usage. This choice was also made because I needed a lens that could accompany 56mm f / 1.2 in my work. Thank you for the very explaining video, greetings from Indonesia!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks Rachada!
I've already got the 16-55 and 2x XT4's .. Great lense 👍
Nice 👍
Thanks for sharing your experience.
95 % of the time i'll never use f:2,8 because i like my subjects to be part of the scene.
Not just a blink of sharpness in an ocean of blur.
You know you can get a mostly sharp image with 2.8 right? There should be plenty of occasions where your subject is in the same focus range with its surroundings.
Yeah agree you ether need 2.8 or you dont - everyones different
Exactly, just to see if you need it or not :D
I own the 16-55 and love it but looking to add more lens to my group so the 16-80 with is is appealing
Yeah nice, what do you mainly shoot? Then maybe I can help recommend some lenses this way :)
Video appreciated.
Have you experienced any zoom creep with the 16-80mm [both when aiming up and downwards]?
Thank you Matthew for this review. I recently tested both lensen myself. What i noticed; the 16-55 is sharper all over, 16-80 lacks same sharpness in the corners. But what is also noticed, and i can also see it in your comparison photos too, the 16-55 is quite 'darker', is it the contrast? in dark areas i'm missing some details and those areas almost turn to black, with the 16-80 i can see far more details in those areas. Is this an exposure thing and correctable?
Yep totally agree roger!
Matthew this is my first video of yours so thank you mate. Just a query for you. I have the XH1 and am looking at one of these two lenses primarily for video. The question is i have purchased a good gimbal setup so do u think i would need the IBIS in the 16-80 or do u think if its mainly for video play safe and grab the 16-80? What would u do mate? Thanks.
Thanks mate I appreciate it. If you use the Gimbal all the time I could suggest the 16-55mm or if you're more interested in both handheld and gimbal work I would suggest the 16-80mm :D
Thanks man!
Nice detailed comparison Matthew! I was planning to buy the X-T200 as a replacement for my Sony A6000, but holding back because the X-S10 is just on the horizon. One of the reasons I'm choosing to go with the S10 is IBIS and the great choice of kits lenses. I usually do one video per month and occasionally shoot images. Would the 16-55 or 16-80 make a big difference over the 18-55 f2.8-4 for my use case? Appreciate insights. BTW, I have an option to pick the T200 with the 18-55 too for ~ $950
Yeah I 100% agree - I am informing many people to wait and purchase it, even after the new year when Fuji offer rebates for the cameras. Although it is crazy cheap right now!
I have owned the 16-55 for some time but it is now showing its true quality with the recently purchased X-T4's IBIS. It is a superb lens. Recent mobility problems led me to buy the 16-80mm, as a 'one lens only' solution. I have only found it "'OK' but it does not come near the 16-55mm for sharpness - although this might just be my particular example! Its performance is 'variable' but generally not up to ANY of my other Fuji lenses. I have decided to forego the convenience and 'travel' with the 16-55mm plus the 50-140mm - another superb performer.
Yeah that is amazing, would love the 50-140mm but I really find it massive for travel compared to the 55-200mm.
Thank you!!
You're welcome!
I went from the 18-55 (got it as a kit with the X-T2) to the 16-80 and I am very satisfied with the performance, I’m still holding on to the 18-55, it’s not worth selling it.
Great work. I agree the 18-55mm is fantastic for it was just the 18mm not being wide enough :D
@@matthewstorerphotography add the 14mm :-) 16mm is not wide enough either!
XT4 solves that lack of OIS on the 16-55 😉 - But yeah, I considered both options for the XT4. Trust me it was tough deciding. Both are fantastic lenses. However, after using the faster 1.4 glass, the 18-55 and the 16-80, just don't have that kind of color rendition of the primes. They are very different, the 16-55 does have that "prime" look. I'm not 100 percent sure why it is, maybe something to do with the coatings? But regardless, they call the 16-55 a bag of primes for a reason. I was frustrated switching between the 16, 35 and 56 one time at an event so I decided to get the 16-55 instead to make my life easier. Yeah its bigger, heavier...whatever. It's a compromise. Still WAY lighter than the full frame counterparts and probably better made too. I believe its actually lighter than all three of those primes together. So its all about perspective. Great video Matt!
Thanks so much Nichoas for the feedback. I just ordered the X-T4 so happy to see what happens with the 16-55 now attached to the front of that lens. I love the look out for the glass also so really excited but still do love the 16-80mm for the videeo aspect from Fujifilm. Thanks for the feedback :D
@@matthewstorerphotography I guess it depends what kind of videos. I also like making TH-cam videos, having that 2.8 is more useful haha. But with the twin linear motors and the new firmware update for the XT4, its very very smooth autofocus so I'm excited to see how it performs once i get it.
@@matthewstorerphotography I just got the X-T4, replacing my X-T1, and already have the 16-55. I'll be curious you're reaction, because the X-T4 with the 16-55 now seems way too big and heavy for me. Big difference. So much so I'm debating trading my 16-55 for the smaller and lighter 16-80. I've been using my 16-55 for 2 yrs now and love the image quality. It's fantastic. But based on your review, it seems I'd have a hard time seeing any drop in image quality with the 16-80, would get a little better reach with it, and much better match with the X-T4 for carrying around. Size and portability is why I went mirrorless over DSLR in the first place.
I have a video question for you! So I realize that pulling focus with the 16-80 is pretty fast (even at the lowest speed setting.) Is that because of the lack of Linear Motor? Would the 16-55 pull slower in a more cinematic way? Thanks again for the awesome video!
Ahhh maybe not in a cinematic way, I honestly generally manual focus when I want it to switch slower, every other time I need it to focus fast
The 16-55 is the best choice, provided you can pair it with the IBIS provided cameras XT4 or XS10 to compensate for the lack of stabilization, and where extra weight is not an issue for you… extra range can be easily offset with a slight crop…
Thank you! :D
Cheers Bro, Im mulling over these lens for the XT4. just switched from nikon and im so used to the Nikon 17-55mm 2.8 for shooting weddings but right now Im getting in to more amateur filming which makes me way the 16-80 for that balance and rent the 16-55mm for the weddings. As it seems like this lens is like my old Nikon one which was just brilliant in low light for stills and super sharp. anyways, thanks for the review :)
Goodluck with your lens choice - you'll love it :D
I have the 16-80 which I bought as the kit lens when I bought my XT3. I also have the 10-24 and I am using my Canon 70-200 with the Fringer Pro II adaptor. All lenses at 72mm, one set of filters. I love the OIS and the lack of need for turning off the OIS when on a tripod, which I often do with other lenses! :)
Good stuff! Love that and its an awesome setup right!?
I have a Fuji X-T4 and use the 16-80 a lot....about 75% of the time.
I also have a Zeiss 12mm 2.8 , the Mitakon 35mm .095 and the Fuji 16mm 1.4 along with all the Viltrox X mount lenses.
The one that is on the camera the most is the 16-80. I did own the 16-55 but sold it because I wanted a better video lens that was newer as far as auto focus goes and the 16-80 has that and also covers a wider range.
Yeah nice. The 16-80 is so versatile hey! Pretty hard to look past :)
A tone of information here, Kinda hard to absorbed so much in a short video, a bulleted text of pros and cons would be great accompanied with this video. Because I do video and still, I would go for the 16-80. TFS
Thanks so much mate really appreciate it - Here is more information from a blog post that I have written: blog.matthewstorerphotography.com/post/fujifilm-16-55mm-vs-16-80mm
Have used both extensively on every XT body including my xT5 and have come to the same conclusion every time. That if I could justify the cost I would keep both but having a £1000+ lens in my bag and using it for about 20% of the time can it be justified? Also the 16-55 is not only very heavy but also is unbalanced on the X-T bodies. As for sharpness I have found despite the 16-80 not being on the 40mp list by Fuji. It performs better with the new sensor whereas I can see no improvement in the 16-55! When comparing identical shots with each lens for most situations I have to check the exif file to see which one is which. Regarding the softness at the extremities then use the lens like the majority of zooms and use it from 17mm to 75mm. Still a fantastic range and with the crop-ability of the 40mp sensor it can even look fantastic when heavily cropped then you have a 17mm to 150mm or more. The comments regarding corner sharpness annoy me as if someone else examines your enlarged print and mentions this then your composition is not very good. So learn to be a better photographer and blow them a way with the story that is in your picture. Just a thought😃
This is video I was looking for, thank you Matthew! Do you think for a start, 16-80mm f4 and 23mm f2 will be fine? 80% are gonna be videos, some in traveling but maybe some in my room for recording myself as well. I'm taking DJI Ronin SC for sure but I'm wondering if some lenses are not to big for this quite small gimbal (like these which you reviewing here).
Currently is quite nice discount because XT3 with a kit lense (18-55mm) is just 100 euros cheaper than with a 16-80mm. So I assume better investment is picking the 16-80mm?
Yeahp that is an amazing combo, really love both lenses!
@@matthewstorerphotography thank you :)
the 16-80 is a no brainer when you get it with a camera body. I ordered the 16-80 with my XT4, but I don;t know if I'd buy it full price as a stand alone lens, but I'm sure it will be perfect choice for many fuji shooters who have had a camera body for a few years and want some of that new fuji mojo. I do have the samyang/rokinon 12mm on my sony and am thinking about getting that version for the XT4 however I may really want that 10-24 instead!!!!
In a bundle the 16-80 is a real steal! The 10-24mm is AMAZING!
@@matthewstorerphotography you mean 16-80 with body combo pack is not good as separately buy ??
Hey Matthew, Thank you for the great review! Which lense do you recommend on the XT3- 18-55mm F2.8-4 OR 16-80 F4 (in addition to the Samyang 12mm) ? mostly for stills (landscape, portrait, nature, street) does the 16-80 worth the price? what about the IQ differences between these two lenses? I would like to know what you're thinking.. thanks :)
Mhmm great question. I prefer the 16mm compared to the 18mm in the short end. But espically the extra reach on the long end. However the price as you said is a big thing! Image quaility is just slightly better on the 16-80mm espically on the long end (35mm+) but I use this lens for video and stills so I am a little bias. But I would rate it as one of Fujifilms best lenses for its versatility
@@matthewstorerphotography thanks!:)
Both. 16-80 is a bit slow indoors and the 16-55 not quite enough reach at times outdoors...so I have both!
Agree!
If you shoot movement and low light, get 16-55/2.8
for everything other than that, get 16-80/4 obviously!
I shoot real estate, so I'd go 16-80/4 or something similar.
II'd get primes for low light.
Yeah I agree the primes are the best for low light and sharpness!
Nice video, subscribed. So If I am doing 70% video with XT4 I should buy 16-80mm?
Personally I would, it depends if you need any low light work done or anything. But for my run and gun concept I love the 16-80mm
Remember the Fuji XC, 16-50mm has image stabilization, but the more expensive XF 16-55mm does not. Around 11:27 you make a combo statement about it AND the XT in regards to image stabilization, which kinda sounds like you're saying the lens has I.S. It's a little hard to hear right, and I played it back five times.
I am really sorry about that must had made a mistake. Thanks for clearing it up:D
Fuji knows how to sell lenses. No lens can match all you needs. So we keep both of them :-).
Right now I prefer for landscape: XF 10 - 24, XF 16 - 80, XF TC 1.4 & XF 100 - 400. Not very light but the results of this combo is incredible.
Thanks for sharing - awesome kit mate :D
After thinking about these lenses and watching your presentation it seem to me that the question is not which is the best lens IMO. I personally shoot X-H1 and 16-55 f2.8 so none of the 16-80 f4 attractive features (in isolation to themselves) surpass or attract from my current kit. However if I shot vid and X-T3 as you do a case can be made, shooting events and 16-55 f2.8 on sale (i got my f2.8 for similar price to the f4) then a differing combo is in the frame. What you have and when you buy seem to the bigger question rather than any IQ. difference. between the two lenses.
Totally agree! I would love to know my option if I didnt do any video, I think it would change to the 16-55 to be honest. They are 100% aimed at a totally different market in my opinion
16-55 2.8 because sometimes a stop of light is everything. Paired with an X-H1, 10-24, and 50-140.
Yeah well said Lyndon can understand that :D
your absolutely right! thats my lenses
Great review! Which of the two lenses has better autofocus for video? I read a review that the 16-80 wasn't great shooting video. I want to upgrade from the 18-55, so I'm trying to decide between these two lenses. As far as price, I don't see a lot of difference in the price of these two lenses (in the U.S.).
Hey Geoff, since the upgrade has come out for the 16-80mm I am very pleased with the AF. Admittedly when it first launched that was correct. Yeah pricing is not so much different, the 16-55mm is very pro photographer based or certain type of videos (tripod or gimbal use) the 16-80mm is super versatile which is the why it walks this earth :D
@@matthewstorerphotography Thanks, Matthew! Much appreciated.
The 16-55 is also good for portraits. I wouldn’t even think about doing a portrait shoot with a f4 which is a 5.6 on full frame. That’s the difference! It’s way more versatile than the 16-80
Yeah true, just depends what you use it for. For me I wish for versatile so its works perfectly :D
Portraits don't always require super shallow depth of field, especially at wider focal lengths where you probably want to include some of the environment. Studio portrait shots are regularly shot at f5.6 to ensure nice sharp images. At the longer focal lengths you can actually get quite a shallow depth of field even at f4, just zoom in and get close. Have a look dofsimulator.net/en/?x=EMgBQQDNIAAIJEwgw9jDhzw
I wouldn't say one it's better than the other for portraits. I'd say it depends on your like, in terms of subject separation I think 55mm f/2.8 should be near to equal to 80mm f/4
@@zolen3046 exactly, the 80mm compensates for the 55mm's 2.8
@@bt82 Agree. I just did some outside portraits with the 16-80 and I'd say they are my best ever. The client was very happy to say the least. TBC...
I'm lucky enough to own both. You are right Matthew, there is overlap, but I can't bring myself to sell either. The 16-80mm has become my everyday walkabout lens. The versatility is excellent, covering most random opportunities, both photo and video. The 16-55mm is more specialised and the lens I chose for say, wedding day guest or social event stills photography. I have X-T4 and X-H1 bodies, so image stabilization on the 16-55mm is not an issue. However, my favorite combination is the 16-55mm F/2.8 on the X-H1. I feel comfortable, the ergonomics are perfect and the camera feels part of me. With this combo I always feel confident that my images will meet expectations. The X-T4 with the 16-80mm f/4 is the run and gun, day out, opportunity shooter. In truth, I love both and will be buried with them, one in each pocket.
I know exactly how you feel, I said that I would sell the 16-55 because of the 16-80. I still have it 16 months later haha. Both stunning lenses in their own way!
Funny thing, I watched your review because of lense comparison, than I figured out you are shooting in neighbourhood.
Hahaha, you in Bled?
I'm having a hard time letting go of the XF 18 - 55mm. It's a much underrated lens. Love the results. May get the 16 to 80 for the range.
Yeah totally get that, I was the same. Switching over to the 16-80 made me very happy however. Love the 16mm and that extra reach is always good.
@@matthewstorerphotography if only the extra reach came with the same image quality as the shorter focal lengths. I find the long end too soft to be of much use for me but I print a lot of my work for sale and I need the sharpness to be there.
I am looking to purchase my first 1 ( or 2 ) zoom lens. I want one lens for travel so the range of the 16-80 is a big advantage over the 15-55. Money is not the issue and neither is the aperture. I have a XS10 with IBIS so either lens will work in most situations. I really love the image quality of the 15-55 but will in the end buy the 16-80 along with a 10-24. When in the mountains I will consider renting the 55-140 to get more compression or the 55-200 for extended reach and lighter weight.
Yes, absolutely
Great review. Which camera did you use to shoot your video - at 0.44 , at 6.44? Thanks.
Thank you - it's the Fujifilm X-T3
@@matthewstorerphotography Oh ok. Which lens is this? The recording is pin-sharp. 👍
Got the xf16-55 with the X-H1 +battery grip and 2 extra batteries for 1699$ (Sep 19). What a great deal. What a great lens...
WOW youre the real winner, haha thats a crazy bargin nice job!
I’ve had the 16-55f2.8 for years and it pairs well with my XH2 but not so much on the XT3. I love my XT3 a hell of a lot more than the XH2 and am reluctant to go to the XT5 so now I’m considering the 16-80 to go with the XT3 for a lighter weight travel lens. If only the XT3 had ibis, it would be perfect.
For the video and to use lens with XT4, which one would you recommend?
I love the XF 16-80mm for video - more run and gun vlog video however.
I can't decide 16-55mm f2.8 or 16-80mm f4 cause I Love the blurry background on my photos. I have 56mm f1.2 and I loved it,
I would suggest the 16-55 of tjats all you care about
Did anyone else have anxiety watching that camera on the tripod as he swayed talking to camera, that did not look stable! ;-)
Hahaha never in doubt Tom :D
@@matthewstorerphotography that was the out-take we didn't see 😂
Weather sealed - ✓
Front element rock hitting resistance - X
Hi, Matt! i would like to ask for your opinion about 16-80 vs 18-135 cos both has wr and ois. Do they have big differences and can you please tell me their strengths and weaknesses and which one do you prefer? thank you!
Hey, Both amazing lenses the 16-80mm is sharper through the entire range, obviously the 18vs 16mm but that to me is a big deal and also the IBIS I would have to say on the 16-80 is superb! Plus the fixed aperture at f/4 is really nice for video.
@@matthewstorerphotography i’m really drawn to that lens cos it’s smaller and has better sharpness and ois. Thanks for the honest input man you’renthe best!
so beautiful video~
Thank you 🤗
I’ve had both and used both and for weddings in the image quality of the 16 to 55 mm F2.8 is far superior. No problem I had with the 16 to 80 mm is that at 80 mm f4 it’s just too soft. For a general purpose lens, it would be great, but I need it for weddings, and it just won’t do.
I tried to get the raw's from your site to compare but I was unable to found them! :( Are those links actually actives?
Yeah sorry I am currently changing over website - pretty annoying sorry