11mm steel is the best. For over 15 years of slingshot hunitng experience, i know for a fact that the blunt force trauma is the factor here. If you want to hit a rabbit head consistently you need a good normal mouth bow anchor point. No butterfly style of shooting is included here. Ideal would be 10 mm lead but its much harder to get and more expensive. Over that weight you will get unnecessary trajectory loss. 11 mm steel is 5.5 grams and kills every time if hit in rabbit head. 8 mm steel, 2 grams does not, belive me i have tried. I also recommend 1745 tubes over bands for 11 mm steel. Because you get atleast 10-15 times more shots before they brake. Also you dont have to mess with cutting tapered bands all day long. And the speed is fairly the same compared to thera band gold. So my advice is 11 mm steel and 1745 tubes :)
Thanks, that answers my question about clay. I had no doubts about Pb. I'll plink with steel and if I hunt-go with Pb (of the same weight but less diameter than steel).
Countryfolk in the uk have used lead for as long as slings have been in use, i find it metal detecting. Cut into strips and rolled up into pellets. Some of it is very ancient. Lead has the weight advantage over stones ,specially for bigger game.
That was helpful, thanks. Just curious where you are getting 8mm lead balls? Steel ammo is readily available, but I’m not finding a good source for lead balls yet.
I actually got the 8mm lead from one of my uncles that used to reload shotgun shells. He had a bag full of it and he gave it to me because he doesn’t reload them anymore. I couldn’t find any lead balls for sale either so I had to buy a mold and make my own.
Nice test! Why would 8mm polished steel has less penetration than rough 8mm lead rounds? What is there weight difference, I assume it has to do with material density? Besides penetration I also wonder what would be more accurate for target shooting over long ranges, 8mm steel vs 8mm lead?
Lead has more penetration due to the density difference, for a long range, you have to aim higher with lead but it’s more stable through the wind, the wind affects steel more so at long distance lead would most likely be a little better, wind resistance, and power wise.
@@hudsonhertz Awesome thanks for reaching out! I am still considering what would be the best all-round ammo type, also taking in consideration what is the most cost efficient and things like environmental friendly to use.. In both those cases lead is definitely not the preferred way to go.. After some more research I might think that for close range up to 20 or 30 meter any 8 mm steel ball shot with the right band set and especially full butterfly has more than enough speed to accurately hit targets without getting effected by wind at all, is very cost efficient, environment friendly and has almost no reshaping so it can also be reusable compared to 8mm lead.. And for the longer range shots and even with enough potential for close range hunting I think 9.5 mm steel would be the best and most cost efficient choice, taking in count that steel also just fly faster than lead with less drop-off until any wind might get the best of it.. I understand with lead if you shoot long range you need to aim high, but having to guess too much has more luck involved and that has not much to do with accuracy I believe.. Just to be clear for close range and even some mid range, I do understand that for hunting impact specifically 10mm lead balls are the most effective for sure.. But I am looking for the all-round best target shooting options for all ranges repeatedly, and I must also note that 10mm lead is way more heavy than 9.5/10mm steel for example, so lead also needs more heavy band sets to make them shoot somewhat equal and pulling butterfly`s that heavy might become exhausting fast..
@@hudsonhertz I've been shooting rocks and they're definitely not accurate. Kinda new to slingshots so trying to figure out if I should shoot clay so I can afford it more or just go with 1/4 steel? 3/8 steel seems like what i want but starting to get pricey. Like to have 7/16 or 11mm but that's really getting costly seems like. Just can't seem to make my mind up but I'd like it to be accurate at least. Like to hunt small game later too. Squirrels maybe
Clay ammo is very light you would probably find It more accurate in a lighter set up. Ratting in barns and sheds ant 5 to 7mtrs clay mostly works and doesn’t ricochet as as bad as steel. But small leads are more deadly and if they splat steel or brick they don’t ricochet much either. Clay shattering and steel bouncing round the shed makes me nervous.
Bro.. did I miss it ?? I didn't see you use hardened glass. That's all in use now. They are super fast and absolutely SLAM. I've put them deeper into targets than steel ammo
@@hudsonhertz oh yeah bud. Be sure and get the goodies. I've seen people say the daisy brand is good for plinking but doesn't have good penetration.. but there are marbled brands you can get that are awsome. Because they are smooth glass you get spin.. almost like a bullet through a rifled barrel. This spin creates extreme accuracy for long distance shots. And the hardnend glass gives great kinetic impact power per square inch. Now, I use a wrist rocket type sling.. but I'm sure they will work just as well with a traditional sling. Good luck and have fun.
And I forgot to say.. you made some really good shots young man. Especially considering you used all types of caliber sizes and load material. Most folks get used to Just one size and weight. When you switched them up , you were just a bit low and compensated in a shot or 2. Good job
@@hudsonhertz close.. but they have developed a way to super harden the glass. I've actually missed and smacked them into cinder block at very high speed.. didn't chip them at all.. but chipped the block lol. That's what makes them great. The large, let's say .50 cal , are much lighter than steel yet you still get 5xs the impact than clay. So you can hit really hard from a really long distance.
Noch Video! Energie = m.v² . How can Pb have more penetration with the same Rubber Bands? The heavier ammo can't have the same start- speed?? Live Greetings Tom
Great comparison 👍would love to see speed comparison on a chrono🤔wonder how a .22lr would do on the clay🤔🤔 I doubt a hollow point would be much better🤔🤔
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Cool video. Presented well keep up the good work.
I would like to see different slingshots with lights and lazers.
Very nice presentation. answered my question directly with clear results. Great work.
Glad you made the video, i have a #0 Lee tools buckshot mould ordered, that lead ball sailed through the clay. Great video, thank you
Excellent video, I shoot but often wonder about penetration ability, wish I started as young as you !
Great video this should be ideal for keeping the Neibours kids out my garden 😂
Maybe use clay 😂
11mm steel is the best. For over 15 years of slingshot hunitng experience, i know for a fact that the blunt force trauma is the factor here. If you want to hit a rabbit head consistently you need a good normal mouth bow anchor point. No butterfly style of shooting is included here. Ideal would be 10 mm lead but its much harder to get and more expensive. Over that weight you will get unnecessary trajectory loss. 11 mm steel is 5.5 grams and kills every time if hit in rabbit head. 8 mm steel, 2 grams does not, belive me i have tried. I also recommend 1745 tubes over bands for 11 mm steel. Because you get atleast 10-15 times more shots before they brake. Also you dont have to mess with cutting tapered bands all day long. And the speed is fairly the same compared to thera band gold. So my advice is 11 mm steel and 1745 tubes :)
@@Rogerdfgh awesome, great to know, thanks for the comment!👍
Admirable, I like to say!!!! Dude you are so darn accurate! More accurate than I shot my handguns!
Ok I'm trying get like him
I just switched back to 9.5 I have not seen the full video yet so I’m excited to see what is dose
Thanks, that answers my question about clay. I had no doubts about Pb. I'll plink with steel and if I hunt-go with Pb (of the same weight but less diameter than steel).
Countryfolk in the uk have used lead for as long as slings have been in use, i find it metal detecting.
Cut into strips and rolled up into pellets. Some of it is very ancient.
Lead has the weight advantage over stones ,specially for bigger game.
Nice experiment and interesting results! 👍
That was helpful, thanks. Just curious where you are getting 8mm lead balls? Steel ammo is readily available, but I’m not finding a good source for lead balls yet.
I actually got the 8mm lead from one of my uncles that used to reload shotgun shells. He had a bag full of it and he gave it to me because he doesn’t reload them anymore. I couldn’t find any lead balls for sale either so I had to buy a mold and make my own.
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Dude major good vid and comparisons thanks man keep em comin
Nice test! Why would 8mm polished steel has less penetration than rough 8mm lead rounds? What is there weight difference, I assume it has to do with material density? Besides penetration I also wonder what would be more accurate for target shooting over long ranges, 8mm steel vs 8mm lead?
Lead has more penetration due to the density difference, for a long range, you have to aim higher with lead but it’s more stable through the wind, the wind affects steel more so at long distance lead would most likely be a little better, wind resistance, and power wise.
@@hudsonhertz Awesome thanks for reaching out! I am still considering what would be the best all-round ammo type, also taking in consideration what is the most cost efficient and things like environmental friendly to use.. In both those cases lead is definitely not the preferred way to go.. After some more research I might think that for close range up to 20 or 30 meter any 8 mm steel ball shot with the right band set and especially full butterfly has more than enough speed to accurately hit targets without getting effected by wind at all, is very cost efficient, environment friendly and has almost no reshaping so it can also be reusable compared to 8mm lead.. And for the longer range shots and even with enough potential for close range hunting I think 9.5 mm steel would be the best and most cost efficient choice, taking in count that steel also just fly faster than lead with less drop-off until any wind might get the best of it.. I understand with lead if you shoot long range you need to aim high, but having to guess too much has more luck involved and that has not much to do with accuracy I believe.. Just to be clear for close range and even some mid range, I do understand that for hunting impact specifically 10mm lead balls are the most effective for sure.. But I am looking for the all-round best target shooting options for all ranges repeatedly, and I must also note that 10mm lead is way more heavy than 9.5/10mm steel for example, so lead also needs more heavy band sets to make them shoot somewhat equal and pulling butterfly`s that heavy might become exhausting fast..
Excellent video, very informative and clear. Great job!
What that second frame you are using ?
Your rubber band setting ?
Distant ?
Catty Shack Evo
0.6mm, 23mm-13mm taper
10 yards
@@hudsonhertz
Thanks for the info....
Your accuracy mesmerized me.
Well done!! 👍👍👍
So the clay isn't very accurate at all? Is this for all clay or just some brands?
Clay is light and easily effected by the wind and not always perfectly round so they tend to fly all over the place
@@hudsonhertz I've been shooting rocks and they're definitely not accurate. Kinda new to slingshots so trying to figure out if I should shoot clay so I can afford it more or just go with 1/4 steel? 3/8 steel seems like what i want but starting to get pricey. Like to have 7/16 or 11mm but that's really getting costly seems like. Just can't seem to make my mind up but I'd like it to be accurate at least. Like to hunt small game later too. Squirrels maybe
@@jackle842000 I would recommend steel for accuracy and if you’re planning on hunting. All you need is a good catch-box and you can reuse the ammo.
@@hudsonhertz will 3/8" steel work good for hunting or you need larger?
@@jackle842000 3/8” is fine, it does the trick.
Awesome video
Friend, can you tell me the anchor point and aiming point of a slingshot rifle
The slingshot rifle has a red dot so I just put the red dot on the target and slowly pull the trigger, if it’s sighted in it should hit the target.
Wicked awesome ty for the data , great video
Great video!
I use 9.5 steel for everything. Awesome video 👌
Can we bring down dove with body shot? If yes what band setup should I use how much mm
@@naafiabdulnaafi7476 yes doves are pretty easy, I use 22/14mm taper with .5 latex. 3/8 steel and log draw
Great video young man.
Reference video for choosing ammo👍
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Great job, man! I’m going to purchase one this week, and go with the lead round!
By far my favourite ammo to shoot is 11mm steel
Ey, what round would be best for say a rabid dog coming after you?
Depends on how much damage you want to do, I would probably say steel. Lead is a little much.
@@hudsonhertz would a 9mm be sufficient?
@@kamotetopz6776 Sure 😂
Definitely max damage, lead all the way.
Good content, and good shooting.
Since most things aren’t soft mud seems like the 8mm lead and 1/2 inch steel would do the most damage.
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What is the perfect mm rubber band for 8 mm steel?.
I use 23-13 mm taper with a .66 snipersling band. I use this setup for 8mm and 9.5mm steel.
Who sells those band sets or pouches?
I buy the bands and pouches from Snipersling
Perfect! 🤘
Great video......I'm also a fan of 25mm steel.
Lead, huh? Good to know - Thanks! 🤘😁
Can i use this for hdr 50 munitions?
Great video, thanks
Hi! Awesome video! Can you try the same test (or maybe the max distance) able to do whit fereless slingshot? Thank you very much 🙏🏻🔝
Awesome and interesting test bro 👍
Clay ammo is very light you would probably find It more accurate in a lighter set up. Ratting in barns and sheds ant 5 to 7mtrs clay mostly works and doesn’t ricochet as as bad as steel. But small leads are more deadly and if they splat steel or brick they don’t ricochet much either. Clay shattering and steel bouncing round the shed makes me nervous.
Nice shooting buddy ..👍
What active band length is that ?
I’m glad I just got 500 9.5 steel ammo in 😅
Nice shots
Bro.. did I miss it ?? I didn't see you use hardened glass. That's all in use now. They are super fast and absolutely SLAM. I've put them deeper into targets than steel ammo
Huh, I'll have to try some out, I’ve never heard of it before.
@@hudsonhertz oh yeah bud. Be sure and get the goodies. I've seen people say the daisy brand is good for plinking but doesn't have good penetration.. but there are marbled brands you can get that are awsome. Because they are smooth glass you get spin.. almost like a bullet through a rifled barrel. This spin creates extreme accuracy for long distance shots. And the hardnend glass gives great kinetic impact power per square inch. Now, I use a wrist rocket type sling.. but I'm sure they will work just as well with a traditional sling. Good luck and have fun.
@@joshythehand2960 awesome man thanks. I’ve used marbles before, is it the same thing??
And I forgot to say.. you made some really good shots young man. Especially considering you used all types of caliber sizes and load material. Most folks get used to Just one size and weight. When you switched them up , you were just a bit low and compensated in a shot or 2. Good job
@@hudsonhertz close.. but they have developed a way to super harden the glass. I've actually missed and smacked them into cinder block at very high speed.. didn't chip them at all.. but chipped the block lol. That's what makes them great. The large, let's say .50 cal , are much lighter than steel yet you still get 5xs the impact than clay. So you can hit really hard from a really long distance.
Can you give me the cutting size for the 0.85 mm tape. By the way, I wish you great success and continued success
Giggity!
What band thickness can be used for 9mm steel
My setup is a 0.6mm or 0.7mm with a 23-13mm taper. Shoots 9.5mm great.
@@hudsonhertz thanks 😊
Hey!!, Thanks a lot, good shoots!!
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lead is always the best cuz its heavy.
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Good video young man I've subbed your channel now and will be having a look at your other vids 🎯👍
Really informative video, nice work 👍🏻👍🏻
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Hi H H , Thanks for sharing Very informative and well presented .old new sub here in England , Will share with my grandsons ,
Very informative
Dobar video.
Noch Video!
Energie = m.v² .
How can Pb have more penetration with the same Rubber Bands? The heavier ammo can't have the same start- speed??
Live Greetings
Tom
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Don't wanna sound like an ol granny, but can you guys use some saf T glasses. Otherwise Verrry Interesting !
Great comparison 👍would love to see speed comparison on a chrono🤔wonder how a .22lr would do on the clay🤔🤔 I doubt a hollow point would be much better🤔🤔
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Lead!!!!!!
9 mm steal
Hi bro i am from India and I am hunting dove 🕊️ i have 4.5mm ball❤❤
Awesome and helpful Thanks for sharing