LIQUI-MOLY Diesel Purge | Does it actually clean injectors? | Injector Feedback Test -Fuel injection
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- In today’s video I complete a concentrate diesel purge on my 2014 Toyota Landcruiser 200 series Sahara, 4.5L twin turbo diesel.
We talk about why we would consider a diesel purge or other additives to the vehicles fuel system and attempt to test the effects before and after, both hot and cold engines using the ECU’s engine management system.
In particular today, we compare the injector feedback values of each individual injector and what they mean. We talk about the importance of monitoring these values and why it’s important to look after you vehicles fuel injection system.
Do these products actually work and would I clean the system again or continue using additives in my fuel system? Watch the video to find out more.
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This is the first video on additives I have seen with actual figures! Great work!
Thanks mate, I hope it's helped a few people and given them a little insight into some realistic results.
Cheers, Nathan.
In a 76 ltr tank do i use cleaner based on 70 - 75 or 80 ltrs ?
@@Mick_4591 just dump the whole thing in, Liqui moly makes 1 Litre PRO line bottles too which they say should be divided in 333 ML each serving. Sometimes you can even fill the can on 40L my car only got a 40L tank so i dumped the whole thing in, still runs.
i'd like when people use data instead of their feelings, good job!
I can confirm that liqui moli diesel purge DOES work!! Here in south africa our diesel has a high sulphur content so our diesel vehicles suffer quiet a bit however a diesel purge makes them run like new again. I have had a case where a BMW 2.0d sdrive would basically run on 3 cylinders on cold startup with a decent amount of smoke coming out, rough idling and loud injector clutter when driving. Replaced fuel filter and purged 2 cans through it and still to this day car starts without issue on cold and drives pretty much like new. I have even noticed on vehicles with DPF after purge the DPF pressure drops completely to almost brand new. Only had 1 situation on a Audi 1.6TDI where the purge didnt help but i suspect corrosion from moisture in the injectors where purging doesnt really help
Thats some great feedback and awesome to hear some noticeable real world results. I still use this product from time to time to purge and so far, I'm happy with how its performing 💪
Definitely works. My old kzj95 was smoking really bad, popped this through and what a difference
That’s awesome to hear 👍
It's good to know that the stuff does have a positive effect on the injectors. I sometimes wonder how effective some of these additives are. I use Flash Lube diesel conditioner. Good job with the analysis very thorough and informative. Cheers.
Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback. I too am glad to see a small positive change after using these products. They advertise the world, but it's hard to find solid, impartial results.
Cheers, Nathan.
I also use the same perge product at every fuel filter change, nice to see some actual data.
I also add a fuel advertise into the tank, not at every fill up but on regular intervals.
I think it does help, even if it is only a little 👍
I appreciate your attention to detail and the time you take to explane it all.. Thanks again Nathan!
Thanks mate, thanks for the continued support.
Cheers.
Hot shots Sticktion oil additive & (USA) LX3 fuel lubricity is another great one
Mad Scientist...well done mate!
Haha, just need some test tubes and beakers in the background.
Thanks for watching.
Cheers, Nathan.
Wish all professionals would do such thorough testing. I always look for vids coming up with the detailed stats/numbers. Thank you, and wish you have the time and inclination to do more of your tests on YT
Thanks 🙏 Your feedback is much appreciated and I'm glad these types of videos are helpful to people.
I will try to keep these types of video continuing where possible.
Cheers, Nathan.
@BruceWayne-sz3thWithout even seeing your engine I would make an educated guess and say the oil likely wasn't changed according to manufacturer's specifications and it has suffered as a result. To sum it up I would bet on it being faulty rings or a damaged cylinder wall surface or both, it honestly sounds like blow-by, resulting in unburned fuel entering the oil and diluting the contents of the crankcase resulting in further damage to the cylinder wall and rings and before too long the bearings as well. If that is in fact your situation I wouldn't want your car even if I was offered it for free. Get someone qualified to perform a compression test and a leak-down test and if your compression is poor and especially if it's not your valves I would be concerned about the condition of your cylinder walls and rings...
I bypassed my Fuel system on my Ford Ranger - put the Luquid Mobi straight to the rail using an 6mm and 8mm fuel lines and a clean empty 2 litre pre-wash bottle as the fuel resevoir / return from rail. (pulling all the fuzes on the pump and vapourises). I ran two two full cans neat - with the return to the fuel resevoir having an inline fuel filter... Try that... It works almost neat mixing with the diesel in the rail.
Yeah, awesome. Sounds like a much more efficient way of administering the product.
Did you find there was much difference in the Ranger?
Subscribed! I'm impressed how detailed and unbiased this presentation was. Cheers!
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it.
Thanks, Nathan.
Those injector readings show how the injectors compensate for differences in compression on each cylinder. So yes, they were cleaned, but the figures cannot be used to show by how much.
If you are going to disconnect the hoses from the fuel tank, probably a good idea to remove the fuse feeding the tank pump or things will get very messy !
Hi Nathan .Great video and explanation. I noticed some comment on foreign bodies and algae in the fuel. I have learned over time that diesel can develop an algae contaminant if you get a load of old fuel from a servo with low diesel turnover, or may at some time have had water in their storage tanks. This is the other reason I use a diesel conditioner. Most fuel additives should not only help the injectors, but neutralise "diesel snot" . Hope this helps and thanks for the video. PS I also put it in my Diesel heater tank.
Thanks Harry, appreciate the feedback on the video.
I have continued to use the fuel conditioner in the vehicle, for that exact reason. I'm hoping that it will continue to keep the diesel in good condition and prevent damage. Now that I have a baseline test, if my results change over time in anyway, I'll report back with another video.
Cheers, Nathan.
Forgot to mention .I use "Moreys" for some time.
Thank you for this comment, I'm suspecting my car has algae in the fuel and hoping this product will sort it out, so you've given me a bit more hope and struggled to find anything about it online.
@@Andy2x4 I would change the diesel fuel filter more frequently. You should see the snot on the filter. Change until it is no longer present on the filter.
Great explanation but wouldn't it have been easier just to fill the fuel filter with cleaner then run the engine?
About the injectors values, the sum of all of them is 0. And if you have 1 injector with problems, the rest will compensate for it. As we can see 1 injector has -1.7 value. That is why the rest have positive values to compensate for it.
As we can see the additive helped a little, but the only way to fix it is to recondition the injector or buy a new one.
Yeah mate, I hear where you are coming from. I guess these cleaners make a very small difference, but nothing that is going to save the injector overall...
Cheers, Nathan.
Very interesting
I think we can potentially spend a lot of cash on additives for not much difference. It’s great to see actual figures to decide wether they’re worth their money
For sure, it's hard to distinguish between real products and marketing hype these days. Glad this could help a little.
Cheers, Nathan.
LIQU Mobi and LUCAS are good in my opinion, Sea foam is hit and miss - the rest is snake oil.
Edit - I got a tip for oil changes - That does work - pour an Ouance / Oz of Sea Foam into your engine oil 200km before an Oil Change... let it run. Then do the oil change - it is like a pure solvent that helps remove gummy deposits - it does work for that, you'll get lots of tarry crap out of your oil drain.
I just used injector cleaner on my 2006 tdi, 450, 000 miles. Jetta
Any results ? I have a 2003 1.9 beetle (ATD PD engine)
Great Job! I needed this information before using the Diesel Clean and boost. I've been using the Liqui Moly Diesel Injector cleaner, and all I can say are good things about this product. I don't have the tools like you do to check the car's ECU, but I know for sure there was an improvement. less knocking now.
Good luck other your clean mate and thanks for the feedback.
I’m sure you will see some benefit from it and have some peace of mind that it will help with engine longevity 👍
Toyota LC 200 Series with V8 Twin turbo Diesel , Waoooo , here in the States is a forbidden fruit !!!
Yeah, such a disappointment. You guys do get some nice trucks over there though.
That's a very good comparison and you have presented it very well! Personally, I use Morey's Stop Smoke & Fuel Conditioner in my old 2h. After about 4-5 fuel tanks, I noticed smoother running in higher rpms, significantly less smoke when under load, and a slight increase in power however no change in fuel economy (gets between 12-13 L/100 before and after fuel treatment). Initially, I was using Fuel Doctor but I didn't notice any real difference. I find the Morey's stuff is more effective. It's pretty cool how you can collate that data and make direct comparisons with modern technologies.
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it 👍
Interesting to hear your thoughts. Might look into this and see if I notice any difference.
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz No problem mate! It'd be kinda cool if this assessment could be conducted on an older vehicle like mine. Cheers, Patrick
2 Stroke oil semisynthetic works well too. I use it for Petrol injectors to stabilize fuel, clean injectors and on diesels do clean injectors and lube the common rail pressure pump. 1:300 to 1:200 works well for me.
Awesome, if it works and doesn't have any negative effect then why not.
Thanks for sharing, Nathan.
Works a treat, I do it in both my diesels. 3ml per litre and nothing in every 4th tank just to make sure I'm not over mixing it
Mate more of this style addative use and analysis would be awsome. 👍
Wow, thats a very scientific analysis. Thank you
Glad you liked it!
Cheers, Nathan.
Great video I just put the moly in the fuel filter housing whilst changing the filter I hope this will be a good result for me.
Cheers mate. This will work as well, easy to do and should still provide some good results.
Cheers, Nathan
I wish we ran data before to compare.
Well done! Nice to see a comparative study. I don't have OBD on my old Patrol. So this has been more than helpful for me.
Thank you for going to the trouble with this presentation. 10 from 10.
Be well.
👍
Cheers mate, appreciate the comments and glad the video could help.
Much appreciated, Nathan.
@@XploringOz One thing you mentioned which I have not heard before. Is to use 'Fuel grade' extension pipes if you need to. 90°+ temps. Not heard that, so important on HOT car. Thanks mate 👍
@@chippywarren9706 For sure, the last thing you want is damaged cause by containments from a inadequate hose not rated for this temperature.
@@XploringOz Thanks again mate. My old bus will thank me. Great channel, love the vids.
Stay well 👍
@@chippywarren9706 Cheers mate, glad you're enjoying the vid's.
Very first informative and detailed video on this product. Thankyou
Cheers mate, glad it was helpful.
Hi Mate.....
Cheers from India...!!!
Very nice and detailed video....I wanted to clean the injector on my Skoda Octavia MK2 which i hold very dear...
Thank you for the in depth explanation...Loved it
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed the video. All the best with your clean!
Cheers, Nathan.
Great video! Only issue I had when using the clean and boost is it started throwing fault codes (bit stressful) but that’s because of the cleaning process breaking down deposits,after 2weeks reset the code and algud!
Ok, that's interesting. I'm assuming maybe some of the dislodged material interfered with sensors in the engine resulting in those fault codes? Were you able to determine which fault codes were activated?
Good to hear it all worked out in the end.
@@XploringOz exactly what I thought, fault code P0401 insufficient egr flow after good run (Italian tune up lol) it was good
@@praneetsingh6201 Glad to hear it all worked out in the end.
@@praneetsingh6201 that's what im getting now, along with many others
It would be interesting to see if you did it again if there were further improvements.
Definitely and something I'll do down the track sometime. Would be interesting to see whether it has made any viable long term results.
Great Video Nathan. The results seem too close to really get the feeling that anything has really changed. The graphs can sometimes exaggerate the real data. Some of this variation demonstrated could be in the errors associated with the actual measurement, as it is probably a voltage measurement and they can fluctuate a fair bit due to interference etc etc. Your car is too well maintained, get a mates shitbox that has been abused and showing some clear signs of neglect (lol). I really appreciate what you are demonstrating and am by NO means knocking what you are going. I'm still on the fence on these products, but I do use them. I REALLY hope the data that you present means a real effect is occurring and I'm not wasting my cash. Again great effort, very much appreciated.
Thanks mate, I appreciate the feedback delivered in a respectful way. For sure, I understand where you are coming from.
If I can get access to a higher milage, city car then maybe we might get more variance in the results.
Cheers.
I agree! It would be good to see on high mileage, not as taken care of shit box. See if you get better data!
Would probably be a good thing to just add a full bottle of fuel system cleaner straight into the fuel filter itself, especially at regular service.
For sure, regular doses of these cleaners will help long term. Keep in mind if you put it straight into the fuel filter bowl, most of the chemical is just going to end up back in the fuel tank when its sent back down through the return lines. The chemical would only be concentrates for the first 20 or so seconds before it's diluted with the vehicles diesel in the tanks.
Cheers, Nathan.
Hi,
Those values are a good indication of injector health. However there are also other factors involved.
If your cam shafts or associated valve mechanisms are worn irregularly then the air entering the cylinder will also be irregular.
Therefore the engine management system will change the fuel input depending on the air (O2 sensor) or the actual acceleration of the engine (from the crank shaft sensor).
So FYI you are not analysing purely the injectors.
If i recall correctly the HD-1FTE engine (injector pump) in the 4.2 land cruiser diesel used crank shaft acceleration to adjust injection quantities to smooth the idle and probably during the operation of the engine.
Thank you for the video. Very informative and professionally done. Your work is very appreciated.
Thanks mate. I agree 100%.
For this test, the injector feedback value is going to provide the easiest and likely most effected variable within the system.
Maybe one day I'll have access to some more comprehensive equipment to be able to test systems out in a more thorough method.
Cheers, Nathan.
Does the engine sound different? Should have done idle tests before and after with sound.
I did use it, just put in fuel tank, and engine feels smoother. After 50kms.
There may have been a very small change in the sound. I believe the change would be more noticeable to louder the 'knocking' or the more worn the injectors are.
Glad you were able to detect some benefit from using this.
Amazing a Toyota LC V8 twin turbo , insane 😮😎💪🏻!!!
Thanks mate! It sure is an awesome vehicle!
Ripper video mate, I had a similair experience, had one injector that was close to 2, ran fuel doctor treatment through it for a few tanks and now back below 1. The cleaners do seem to help...
Thanks mate, appreciate that.
That's great news. I might have to have a look into that product and just do some testing off camera, see if there would be any further improvement in the injector values.
Have you continued to use this product regularly? And if not, have you observed that particular injector to return to those higher values?
Cheers, Nathan.
XploringOz yes, I continue to use it, injectors are staying well inside spec. Probably due another test now actually. I got a bit of a dodger load of fuel at one point that’s the main reason I started using it. Been 22k kms since that load of fuel and all is well in the world.
Great test but I doubt load is a percentage. With BMW load is an arbitrary number, with my 335i i have a peak load target of 195 ish and an idle load of 18ish.
With your LC v8 making 175kw peak, 30% load at cold start idle would be 52 kw just sitting there.
With many petrol turbos thats what contols boost pressure, you target more load in the ecu map.
Also there's load commanded and load actual so if u go to overtake, the load commanded goes up, load actual is lagging, the wastegates shut, it spools and boosts until load actual catches load commanded.
So much stuff going on, thats like 2% what a modern ecu is doing 👍
I used this stuff just the other day on a vw golf and the car wouldnt run on it. I had to put in a little diesel then it fired straight up.
Interesting, hadn't heard of this happening to many people. Did you notice much change once the clean was complete?
I drive a little 2 Little twin turbo bmw 1 series sport and I don’t know what would be a good plan for me to try and get some life out of my cars for a Change so any advice would be greatly appreciated friends
Great review! I'm only confused between two Diesel purge models namely 1811 and 2005 while trying to make a purchase online... Please help..
Hello, do you have an in-tank fuel pump? or the fuel pump is outside the fuel tank?
A stock 200 Series does not have a lift pump, only an internal transfer pump that moves fuel from the sub tank to the main tank. Fuel is drawn into the engine by the suction from the high pressure fuel pump, which is after the factory sedimeter / fuel filter.
The return line goes directly from the high pressure pump all the way back to the tank tank. So for the concentrated purge activity, only one hose needs to go into your plastic container, to draw the liqui moly product in. There is no need to disconnect two hoses because there is no fuel coming in from the tanks, as there is no lift pump that feeds fuel from the tank to the engine. Only the supply hose going into the factory sedimenter needs to be submerged into the container. I would simply open the fuel tank cap to release any air pressure in the tank, so that when the return fuel goes back to the tank, it doesn't push fuel into the supply hose.
N.B. This advice that I am giving is only specific for the VDJ200 - other makes, e.g. Ford Territory actually have a fuel lift pump in the tank, so two hoses do need to be disconnected.
I'm not sure you're reading the values correctly. As I understand it, the ECU reads the flywheel speed thus seeing which cylinders are generating less power at idle. On the 'slower' cylinders, the ECU increases the fuel amount (positive values), but it also decreases the fuelling of other cylinders to balance it out. So really you only need to be looking at the positive numbers. It's a shame we don't know whether the injector cleaner or tank additive is the thing that made the difference.
I understand your logic here and would concede that this could be the case. Either way, the results from my testing do show that these values have moved, albeit slightly closer to that 0 mark, therefore having some improvement.
Is there something else that you would think would of made this difference other than the cleaner?
Thanks for sharing, Nathan.
Thanks man this is really great
Nice analysis mate. Was it just me or was the variance on each injector at over time greater on both the cold and hot test post clean compared to pre clean? The graphs certainly seemed lumpy to me post clean.
Thanks Terry, appreciate it.
I think you are right with the cold test, the variance may be a little greater on the after test, however, I do think that the variance is probably smaller on the hot test.
The visual graphs could probably have done with a little more attention, on review now, I have noticed that the scale of the graphs is not consistent. This has probably exaggerated the visual variance.
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz I did not pick the scale issue on the graph, agree that would have a lot to do with it. Cheers!
@@JafffaAdventures My fault there for not ensuring a constant scale. Overall I'm relatively happy with the results, especially with a product at this cost and simplicity of use.
Solid and meaningful information. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I was cleaning out my Landcruiser VDJ79R fuel filter case the other day with compressed air and blew a little bit of black algae & crap out from under the plastic float housing in the bottom of the filter case. There must have been a little water lurking under there to allow the algae to form, something you might want to check as it wasn't visible to the eye when replacing the stock fuel filter which I do every 20K and have never seen any water sedimenting out.
Thanks mate, I'll definitely keep an eye on that. Having the secondary fuel filter also gives me a little peace of mind as well, as this is also a filter that will catch further particles and trap any water that may pass the factory filters.
Thanks for watching and appreciate your advice.
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz I think the factory Toyota fuel filters do down to to 2 micron. my 145K old fuel filter case had some corrosion down the bottom so water must have been sitting in it a one stage, I just ordered a new one and noticed it has a painted on varnish like coating on the lower half to protect the case from rusting. I'll run some Liqui-moly through it and swap it out & replace the filter again too. Another important point about diesel fuel is to get a receipt each time you buy it so you have some recourse on the seller if you get a couple of K's down the road after filling up and the warning lights come on or worse.
@@dustyfarmer You can never be too careful with fuel and the quality with these newer common rail Diesel engines. I reckon there would be so many people out there with no idea and who don't periodically check these things...
@@XploringOz You're not wrong, I serviced a friends Nissan CRD yesterday & they were running it at 9K intervals on the oil change as recommended, the oil was as black as the ace of spades. Put the new oil in and ran it, still black on the dipstick. Had to drain the new oil that looked 5K old in 5 minutes as I was not happy with it. Second oil change much better but plenty of blowby out the filler cap on a 200K engine, longer service intervals are no good, the drain plug positioning on the sump left about 500ml of dirty oil in it, I syringe/hose suctioned that out the second time & not one grease nipple on it either, oil filter was in a bastard of a position too.
Hi mate, seen you have a post fuel filter on there, what micron did you go with and why did you choose to go post over a pre filter. Just curious to your thoughts.
Cheers mate
Hi Mark, yes that's correct I'm running a post filter and this is a 5 micron filter.
So the reason I ran a post filter, rather than a pre filter is to allow the factory sensor in the primary filter to activate if for whatever reason water gets into the system or the filter becomes blocked.
The post filter allows any dirt that may have passed the primary filter to be captured at this point prior to entry.
Now I know this may not always make sense, however there are pro/cons for both pre and post filters. Fitting a pre-filter could potentially block up with dirty fuel and won't provide the driver with any information until the SCV (suction control value) is placed under large stress, potentially causing a failure.
The primary factory filter is still a very cost effective maintenance item and is very easy to change roadside if required.
I hope this helps somewhat.
Cheers, Nathan.
Fantastic test and review
Cheers mate, appreciate it!
Why not just fill the filter canister with the cleaner?
what is your recommend ratio for normal use clean and boost , 100ml for 100litre good enough or more may required, thanks
My car has 60Liters max tank fuel capacity, how much of this product should i pour in it to make it work just fine?
How much liter to put in the Toyota d4d diesel engine?thanks
500 ml is enough for 75 litres. For 60 it would be around 400 ml.
Main ingredient is naptha, same as shellite.
thank you for great detail video as layout well super explanations
the question did get better fuel to travel out diesel turbo after running the clean mix through 4x4 turbo engine?
Thanks Robert, I'm glad to hear that you're enjoying the content.
So personally, I haven't noticed any dramatic decrease in fuel usage. I find it hard to measure a constant from day to day as my driving style (towing/4x4 etc) in constantly effecting fuel economy.
I'm still happy knowing that my injectors may be that little bit cleaner now.
Great test. Only bit I found missing is what's mileage of the engine you're testing. I think you can expect better results in properly clogged high miles engine but next to nothing in let's say 50k miles engine. 👍👌👍
Thanks mate, this is definitely true and I think this vehicle would be on the lower kilometres side (only 100000km's). If I can get access to a higher milage vehicle, I could potentially re-test this solution.
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz I'll try your way on mine 2.0 tdci 4cyl Ford Galaxy. It has 240k miles(386k Km). Runs lovely but there's hasitation and puff of white smoke at startup indicating that spray isn't perfect. Of course it can be just injectors end of life but I'm getting smooth ride and good mpg in return. So why not to have a shot? Only if forscan will let me get data to compare the results. Cheers Chris
@@polishguy9272 Awesome, make sure to let us know how you go. I would be very interested to see the results on a vehicle with more miles.
@@XploringOzSure I will. Another thing worth to compare are the short and long fuel trims. If cleaning work then conditions required for stechio are changing and this will affect them. Cheers
My car is at 180,000km and I'll be doing this at next fill up. I'll let you know how it goes! Never done it before so will be interesting
I took an injector off to clean it and now the car is not starting, all the injectors are not spraying, there is pressure in the rail but the injectors are not opening. Help me please
Great video mate 👍🏼
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed 👍
Hi Nathan - great vid mate and really appreciate the huge effort for this. Can you tell us which software are you using for the data analysis ?
Thanks mate, appreciate that. Yes, so this is the Toyota TechStream software.
It can be downloaded online, free of charge, but there is a particular method to install and get it working, something I struggled with... I think Jafffa adventures has some video's regarding this on his channel that may be of use 👍
@@XploringOz - Yeah that's excellent. Thx for helping all of us out here Nathan. Keep up the great work.
Are you better doing this with the engine hot or cold?
This is done with a hot engine 👍
Hi mate, what obd2 scanner/program are you using to see all that information, I would like to get one for myself, my obd2 scanner only shows me half the things yours does, thanks mate
So I'm using the Ultragauge MX1.4. This is an awesome unit and have been really happy with its performance and functionality so far.
I've actually done a video on this unit - th-cam.com/video/faG27fK5BbY/w-d-xo.html
Hi Nath, another very useful and enjoyable video, well done mate.
It would be interesting to able to compare the data with a brand new vehicle as well.
Question: any reason why not to use a Toyota product?
Thanks
Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback once again.
It sure would be interesting to compare with a near new engine. Unfortunately I don't know anyone with a near new 200 series, otherwise it would have been a great comparison.
Answer to your question, no particular reason. TO be honest, a few internet reviews provided some positive feedback for the Liqui-moly product's and along with their reliable reputation, I was happy with this choice. I guess the Liqui-moly products are probably a little more readily available to most people, being stocked in most popular Aus vehicle accessory stores. Although I'm sure Toyota dealers would stock their cleaner (and online options), I'm assuming most people would generally attend and check mainstream franchise stores first.
Further, I may try this product down the track just to see whether any further benefit can be gained.
Cheers, Nathan.
Hi Nathan. Great video mate. You put vary little in your tank. I thought a whole can in a 1/4 tank of fuel would be the way to go lol. You must be in WA. Cheers
Yeah, it would be interesting to see how the concentrate would have an effect in the fuel. There would be a point where the returns would be diminished.
Yep, WA the exploring state 😆
What is the difference between liquimoly diesel purge vs liquimoly injector cleaner for cleaning injectors?
What software is this??
Hi Nathan have you continued to use this product on a regular basis, and if so what have you seen on your diag software?
Ps. What software are you using there by the way?
Cheers
Daz.
what is the name of it’s petrol alternative
Hi Nathan, just came across your channel, new subscriber here. Love you content. I have a question, can I also just add the diesel purge directly on the fuel filter? And can I use it together with super diesel additive?
Hey mate and welcome to the channel, here's hoping there's some more content out here that can assist 🤞
Yes, you certainly can do this as well 👍
Great video thank you for your time.
No problems thanks for the feedback 🙏
Very good video, looking at
your data it would appear that injector no2 and no3 could probably do with a change?
Possibly, but usually its a good idea to change them altogether and this is expensive, so I'll wait until they really need changing.
Good work mate.
Cheers mate 👍
Hey Nathan
Any reason you did not add it directly into the fuel bowl of the pump that’s the way I add my Wynn’s Recharge Kit
Hey Clint, there is no particular reason and this would have worked fine. To be honest, it's not something I had thought of and may be something I try next time.
Cheers, Nathan.
@Miguel Reyna It sure can be. This is safe to run through any diesel pump or fuel systems. As it can be run as a stand alone product, there is no reason it can't be run in high concentrate formula's too. Good luck.
Hi Nathan. Great video!
Do you know if you could run the cheaper (Valvoline, Repco/SCA diesel cleaners) in the same manner? (Concentrate)
Cheers mate. So I haven't looked into this. I don't believe all of them would be able to do this as these products would need a specific chemical formula to successfully and safely run the engine. I think it would be best to check with the manufacturer before trying anything though.
Cheers
thanks so much for the video and comparison, just a quick question, this type of cleaners dont leave residue in chambers?
No problems mate, glad you got some value from it.
I don't have any scientific way to assess whether residue is left behind, but I don't believe it's designed to do so.
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz its just that i wanted to know before using it if its true that it get burn 100% with fuel and will leave no residue in the chamber or the DPF and specially the DPF , but thks for the honest answer ,
have a nice day
Nice to know they ain’t just straight up lyin ahaha mint vid
For sure, it’s hard to distinguish between quality products and marketing rubbish these days
hello. can use ligui moly Common Rail Additive on 1vd-ftv?
Hi, thanks for the video. Could you tell us software you used here and where we can get it. Thanks.
Thanks mate. Yes, so the software is Toyota Techstream. Although not available for public purchase, they are plenty of copies and instructions online as to where you can download and install this software.
It wasn't a straight forward easy install, but we got there in the end.
Cheers, Nathan.
Great job Nath! How many k's did you have on your 200 series when you did the injector clean?
Cheers Greg! So my 200 series has only done 95000km, so relatively young.... I hope.
Cheer, Nathan.
You're supposed to put it straight into a new fuel filter and run it directly of the purge
I did run it straight off the purge? 🤷♂️
I have the same filter setup as you. Did you have to remove a fuel pump fuse to stop diesel pumping from the tank during the purge?
Negative, I just disconnected the return line and diverted it back into the intake. The only thing with this method is keeping a feel for the fuel temp, as it will increase more than usual.
Cheers, Nathan.
Have heard you should use 2 cans (1000ml) of moly to get the best results
For sure, this would be a great way to get a really good clean in 👍
G’day Nathan, good job and super explanations, can you see the injector data also on the ultra gauge ? Cheers
Thanks Holger, always appreciate your feedback.
Unfortunately this is one of the limitations of the Ultragauge and this data can't be seen on this device. This is one of the two main reasons I went through the painful task of obtaining and operating this particular software.
Thanks, Nathan.
@@XploringOz Did you mention the software you are using? Looks pretty good. I assume you're using a OBDII to USB adaptor as well? Top notch video, mate!
@@oxylus7223 Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback there. I haven't gone into too much detail regarding the software I'm using. This is because I'm not particularly IT savvy and I had to off-source the installation process in order to get this program working. The program is Toyota Techstream and is operated through the OBDII port, using a mini VSI cable. Great piece of kit for diagnostics and comparisons. Cheers, Nathan.
Outstanding
Great Video! What computer software are you using?
Thanks mate, this is Toyota TechStream. Great software, however very difficult to install.
So does it work or not
Great video. Your knowledge is excellent.
Have you heard of a product called Fuel Doctor? I've been wondering whether to use a bottle in my Dmax but am worried about potential negative affect on injectors.
I used fuel doctor for the same purpose Nathan has used the liquid moly, it helped my injector values and I now use it in most tanks. Been doing it for a year now..
Thanks mate, I appreciate the feedback once again.
I have heard of this product, however haven't had any personal experience with it. I would be comfortable using this product with the appropriate administration and dosage and wouldn't be too worried about injector damage.
These companies has spent significant time and resource to make a product that is as effective as possible and 'consumer' proof, with the knowledge that not all users will administer correctly.
I believe with the correct method and dosage, it would work well.
To be honest, I may even try one of these products in the future to see if any further improvements can be obtained.
Cheers, Nathan.
I’m buy the. Same 1 l can someone tell me how much I’m put in thank Golf 6 1.6 Diesel, thank you 🙏🏻
Is this possible on Mercedes with common rail?
For sure mate, can work on most diesel CRD engines.
@@XploringOz Thank you for help.
Great vid, thank you
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it.
Thanks
mate i have a question for you, I have a HIlux, 3.0L d4d. I recently had a scan tool hooked up to the Lux, and I saw my injector values at
Injection feedback value 1 -1.6
Injection feedback value 2 -1.6
Injection feedback value 3 5.0
Injection feedback value 4 -2.4
Break it to me, easy bro... is this good or bad? lol
Nr 3 is bad
G'day Bud, very well done, Trying to install and run the same program to do the injector feedback test. Just wondering how you got your program working for the diagnostic. what version are you running and on what version of operating system ie, win 10 64bit?? any info would be gr8 thanks.
Cheers mate. One thing I can tell you for sure that this program is not fun to get working. I am not an IT guy by any means, but it took me a long time.
In the end, I just couldn't get it working and sent my laptop to Perth by mail to get my brother-in-law to get it to work.
I'm using an old laptop, running Windows 7 (64 bit).
If you check out the Landcruiser 200 series Facebook pages there is a guy by the name of Lee Owen who has a couple of posts that gave a detailed explanation on how to work it, not that it worked for me (definitely my fault though).
I wish I could help some more, but unfortunately computers and software just isn't my thing.
I hope you can get it to work.
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz Thanks Nathan, I am also not that tech savvy. ... and I don't have a brother in Perth. So many versions on many different platform running 3 different VIC's and a tonne of different drivers and another tonne of how to do's out there. Might just drop in to Toyota. But thanks anyway, See you on the tracks.
Yeah, sorry i couldn’t be of more help. All the best with trying to get it to work 👍
Never saw the little filter fitted
The little filter was fitted. It was fitted on the end of the intake hose, this was placed inside the container with the cleaner.
Good job
Thanks mate 👍
I would be replacing injectors at 100k if towing a lot / working the engine a lot or at around 140k if the engine has had an easy life or at around 5 years, to prevent blow by from aging and or worn seals etc. At the same time i would be getting the egr system cleaned as even if you have a catch can you will still get soot build up over time.
I hear what you are saying, but at $6000 for replacement injectors, that just isn't a viable of cost effective option.
I have had the intake and EGR clean as I fully expect some oil to still make is past the catch can 👍
does this method work with renaut clio4 or captur dci with fuel pump?
It sure will!
can I safely use it twice in a row to properly clean the injectors?
Yes, this can be used repetitively, it will likely has less and less effect, the cleaner and efficient the injectors become.
Cheers, Nathan.
Any reason in particular why you run a " post" fuel filter and not a " pre " fuel filter?
Yeah the dude form Berrima Diesel is not that impressed with a post fuel filter on the diesel LC200 - th-cam.com/video/uRKsXgHuWX0/w-d-xo.html He talks like he knows his stuff
There are definitely advantages to both running pre and post filters and it will depend on how you want to set up your particular vehicle.
The reason I chose this method is that it allows the pre-filter to essentially run as standard, meaning that if I pick up dirty fuel, my dash and factory sensors will let me know.
I always carry an extra fuel filter and am able to clear the fault light with the Ultraguage.
Running a pre-filter can protect your factory filter, however you won't know whether it has picked up dirt and debris until there is a slow down of fuel passing through the filter.
Again, everyone has their own opinion on this matter and this is only how I think about it.
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz thanks Nathan like your reasoning. I put a pre filter in mine and its not that easy to check the bowl for water , i need to use a mirror on a stick to check it.
@@jpbro5545 As long as it's working for what you need, that's all that really matters.
@@jpbro5545 i have the same issue on a d max cant easily see the bowl.
I will use your sugestion re mirror on a stick
Would this be an good idea of adding additive to a brand new car to prevent any buildup?
It sure would. I would personally use it as an additive to the fuel tank, just to continually flush through a small amount while driving. This would prevent long term build up and assist to keep the system clean.
@@XploringOz nice, im going to run LM Cera tec from beginning for sure 👌 that seems to be an big improvement
The best thing you can do is to install an oil catch can. It prevents sludge buildup in intake manifold and valves.
Injectors are fine if you use good gas and change the fuel filter.
@@theEskalaator Definitely helps. I've tested out a couple on this channel with some interesting results.